Chase Geiser and Cliff Maloney expose Omar al-Bayoumi’s 1999 Capitol surveillance footage, linking Saudi ties to 9/11 hijackers and contradicting the FBI’s lone-wolf claim. Democrats’ "ballot-chasing" strategy in Pennsylvania—hiring 120 door-knockers to target low-propensity GOP voters—outpaces Republicans, who rely on TV ads and ignore systemic advantages. Maxine Waters’ civil war warnings are dismissed as propaganda, while Steve Bannon’s allegations suggest establishment Republicans like Paul Ryan suppressed evidence against Trump to protect their own interests. The episode reveals how electoral manipulation and political cowardice sustain a broken system, where both parties exploit fear and process over integrity. [Automatically generated summary]
♪♪ The CBS News exclusive, the unnerving video outside the U.S.
Capitol, filmed two years before the 9-11 attacks.
Good evening, I'm Nora O'Donnell, and thank you for being with us.
Two decades ago, the 9-11 Commission found that al-Qaeda acted alone.
But victims' families say that is not true, pointing to this video and other evidence as proof.
They are suing Saudi Arabia, claiming its government provided crucial assistance to the hijackers and planners behind the September 11th attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.
60 Minutes correspondent Cecilia Vega reports.
A voice on the video says in Arabic, I am transmitting these scenes to you from the heart of the American capital, Washington.
This video, unsealed in federal court this week and obtained by 60 Minutes, was recorded in the summer of 1999.
The man behind the camera is Omar al-Bayoumi, who the FBI says was an operative of the Saudi intelligence service with close ties to two of the 9-11 hijackers.
The video was filmed over several days.
Bayoumi recorded entrances and exits of the Capitol, security posts, a model of the building, and nearby landmarks.
In this portion of the video, Bayoumi points out the Washington Monument and says, I will get over there and report to you in detail what is there.
He also notes the airport is not far away.
What I see Bayoumi doing is going out and making a detailed video record of the Capitol from all its sides and then conducting that 360-degree panoramic view.
Richard Lambert is a retired FBI agent who led the initial 9-11 investigation in San Diego, where Bayoumi and the two hijackers lived temporarily before the attacks.
He's now a consultant on the case filed by the 9-11 families.
If you've ever flown into Washington, D.C., one of the first things you see on the horizon is the Washington Monument.
So if you know where your other targets are in terms of the Washington Monument, it helps guide you to your intended target.
Federal investigators believe the hijackers on Flight 93, which crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, had the U.S.
Capitol as their likely target.
The lawyers for the 9-11 families and former intelligence analysts we spoke to believe portions of the video show Bayoumi surveilling the Capitol as part of that plan.
And in the video, he references a, quote, plan.
You said that in the plan.
What plan?
Who is he talking to?
What do you think he's talking about?
I think he's talking to the Al-Qaeda planners who tasked him to take the pre-operational surveillance video of the intended target.
So this video is taken in late June and early July of 1999.
What does that timing tell you?
Well, that means it was taken within 90 days of the time when senior Al-Qaeda planners reached the decision that the Capitol would be a target of the 9-11 attacks.
That's when Osama bin Laden decided to approve Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's so-called planes operation.
In the days after 9-11, British police discovered the video during a raid on Bayoumi's UK apartment.
They also seized Bayoumi's handwritten address book that the lawyers for the 9-11 family say was filled with phone numbers of numerous senior Saudi officials who were in the government at the time.
And when Bayoumi filmed the Washington video, he was often with two Saudi diplomats who the FBI says had ties to al-Qaeda, finding the Saudi government disputes.
Well, it is another very large brick in a massive wall of evidence that at this point indicates the Saudi government was complicit in the 9-11 attacks.
Ken Williams is a retired FBI agent who led the 9-11 investigation in Phoenix, where one of the hijackers attended flight school.
He's also a consultant on the case filed by the 9-11 families.
In terms of all the revelations that have come out as part of this 9-11 lawsuit, where does this video rank?
The government of Saudi Arabia says nothing to see here.
This is a tourist video.
This is a guy out looking at the sites in Washington, D.C.
I would vehemently disagree with that.
This is not a tourist video.
The British police are believed to have turned over the video to the FBI shortly after 9-11, which raises the question, why, after more than 20 years, is it just now surfacing?
Did somebody really mess this up?
This seems like a really big thing to just being made public.
If that was missed, then shame on us for missing it.
If it wasn't missed, then I would have to ask the question, what was done with it?
That was Cecilia Vega reporting, and CBS News reached out to the FBI, which says it will not comment about ongoing litigation.
Both the Saudi government and Omar al-Bayoumi deny any involvement in 9-11, and lawyers for the government have filed a motion to dismiss the case.
Oral arguments are scheduled for later this summer.
60 Minutes will have more on this story in the fall.
It's my favorite part of the show to pretend that we haven't been hanging out for an hour.
This is the beginning of the conversation.
So, tell me a little bit about how you got into politics.
Obviously, we're going to dive into the PHA stuff and this upcoming election in detail, but I want to give everybody a little bit of context about what your story is.
When did you first discover that you were a right-wing, right-leaning person, get involved, that kind of thing?
And, uh, I went back to my dorm room and I went down this vicious circle of just watching Ron Paul moments, the Giuliani moment back from the 20, uh, 2008 campaign.
And I came out thinking, Oh, everybody must be watching these videos.
Unfortunately, no, there was a select few of us who, who did the deep dive.
And then from there, just got involved.
I worked for Ron on the Hill for, for a couple of summers and 2016 I was ran Paul's national youth director.
And then after that, I pretty much have spent the last eight years trying to focus on the most impactful way that we can get America first, liberty type candidates elected, which to me is knocking doors.
We can't compete when it comes to TV.
We can't compete on radio.
I mean, the big money of the Uniparty, it is difficult for grassroots conservatives to win.
Right.
And so that's what I've been focused on.
But all that changed once these rules started to shift.
And so in my home state of Pennsylvania, You know, this is how you end up with a Senator John Fetterman, is because Republicans refuse to adapt, they refuse to figure out what needs to be done, and Democrats are serious people.
It is a business for them.
This is the business of power, and so I found myself in this spot that now we're trying to come up with a solution to fix Pennsylvania.
And if you're gonna win the White House, you gotta win PA.
Well, that's one thing that's frustrated me about the Republican Party.
I'm somebody who I don't identify as either Republican or Democrat, though I vote almost exclusively for Republicans, just because they happen to be the closest to what I believe.
But I'm so frustrated with the Uniparty that I don't want to explicitly identify with either party at all.
But Republicans seem to have a tendency to be almost exclusively reactive.
And maybe it's just the nature of the political philosophy.
We're trying to conserve the Constitution, conserve the Bill of Rights, conserve the principles laid out in the Declaration of Independence.
And so when there's an assault, we react.
But since we've taken this exclusively defensive stance for so many years, it seems like The Democrats have really taken advantage of that.
Well, and one of the things too, I grew up in small town, Illinois.
And contrary to what many people think about Illinois, the vast majority of Illinois is very conservative, right?
You've got Cook County in the top, and it's so democratic that it just saturates the entire rest of the state and pollutes the political outcome.
But the vast majority of people in Illinois are small-town, Christian conservative.
Types.
And what I noticed growing up around Republicans and small business owners, my dad was a small business owner, is that there's a culture among conservative middle Americans of goodwill and benefit of the doubt.
And what I've learned as I've become well into my adult years now, I'm 33, and over the last 10 years I've really learned that good people are less inclined to notice or suspect the worst out of other people.
They're inclined to assume the best, give the benefit of the doubt, because it's hard for good people to imagine anyone operating on anything else other than ethical standards or virtuous standards.
Regardless of whether they're Christian or whatever, you just assume people are going to try to be honest, right?
And it's what makes them so good, but it's also a vulnerability, a weakness, for lack of a better term, because we constantly assume that If we give goodwill to the Democrats, that they'll reciprocate, right?
So famously, Donald Trump says, yeah, because you'd be in jail to Hillary Clinton in that debate.
That was a powerful moment.
Then he gets into office and decides, you know what?
It's probably a bad move for us to do that.
Decides not to do it.
Turns out maybe he should have come down a little harder the first term on these people.
Because if you don't crush your enemy entirely, then they come back to get you.
Can you speak a little bit to that?
Do you think that there's just a naivete on the right that isn't manifest on the left?
But I do think that they take real action when they see that their power is in jeopardy.
And of course, this is the Uniparty, right?
I spend all my time working for and against Republicans.
That end against part is important because a lot of the Republicans, you know, they run as an R, and as you know, they get in there and do everything that's go along to get along.
But I think right now, Democrats are struggling because you have two major things happening.
One, we have media, alternative media, you know, folks like InfoWars, but I just mean in general with social media.
I think politics is much more...
There's better access for people, right?
And so normal folks who care about paying their mortgage, they care about doing the right thing, they care about putting food on the table, taking their kids to baseball practice, for a while there was a disconnect between that and, you know, what's happening in the political world.
And it was always the soundbites.
I think more people are getting access to that.
And then right now, what does the unit party offer?
What do the Democrats offer right now as some political solution to anything?
It's all woke virtue signaling that doesn't connect with anybody with the real issues.
And so I just, I see it right now as kind of a breaking point that hopefully every day blue-collar Americans are on the rise, and I'll get back to saying this, people are fed up, and I think it's a great moment for us to capitalize on.
You know it was a couple of years ago I was surfing and comparing the RNC website with the DNC website and I was looking at the careers tab not because I was looking for a job but because I literally just wanted to analyze who was hiring what types of roles and there were like three roles open for the RNC compared to like maybe 100 for the DNC,
they're hiring people like AI experts and digital strategy directors
and sophisticated positions and roles that you would think if you were looking
at the list of open roles, you would think that it was like a major
Silicon Valley company that was trying to hire the most competent, cutting edge people possible.
Then you go over to the Republican page and they want like an intern in the Washington office
and then they're collecting resumes for just general resume tab
where you can submit your resume.
If something comes up, we can look through our litany of resumes.
Can you talk a little bit about the state of the Republican Party?
Obviously at the national level, they seem much less aggressive than the Democrats,
just like you've been kind of saying and applying.
What is the state of the Republican Party in some of these swing states?
And I'm not trying to encourage you to disparage the party or anything like that.
I don't wanna put you in a difficult position to answer this question honestly,
but what are some of the vulnerabilities or what's actually going on in terms of Republicans
versus Democrats at a party level in these states that are gonna determine the future of our country?
Yeah, well, I think the first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one.
We have a major problem within the Republican Party where, for years, and I'll blame, you know, Ronna McDaniel, I'm happy to call her out by name because, you know, she raised $250 million off of election integrity and, you know, we still have yet to see what was the plan there.
So I give the party a pass in that we have new leadership, and I will tell you, they have been extremely open with me, with other partner orgs in the state.
But let me get into the nuts and bolts of what we found when we really did a deep dive in Pennsylvania.
So in Pennsylvania in 2020, Trump lost to Biden with mail-in ballots, 80 to 20.
And it was the same margin Fetterman to us.
So if you take all, remember, 50 days of mail-in ballots, right?
If you take just the mail-in ballot portion, we are down by 60 points going into election day.
So it's 80% to 20%.
And so when we did a deep dive, we said, okay, what are the Democrats doing?
I don't mind imitating their strategy if it works.
So they're hiring hundreds of full-time ballot chasers around the clock.
And when I look to the Republican Party or I look to these big campaigns, like Oz's campaign, and like you said, we have plenty of friends who are trying to fight the good fight, whether within the party or not.
They are not hiring any full-time ballot chasers.
Now look, do they do a Super Saturday with their staff?
And do they bring out volunteers?
Yeah, but guess what?
The Democrats do that too.
But they know that with the rule change, you have to adapt.
And you have to focus on these low-propensity voters, that if they get a ballot on their dining room table, guess what?
They are tremendously more likely to vote.
And so when we've done this deep dive and looked at all these numbers, you know, to me, the change needs to be from the top to say, look, you have to adapt.
And let me get in trouble for saying this.
Let's say a campaign spends one hundred million.
OK, if you want to pull five million dollars to do an effective statewide ballot chase effort.
You're going to have to pull that $5 million from one of the consultants who's making 15% on the TV ad buy.
The consulting class is not going to give up that $750,000 to pull.
And this is what I found.
Right, and so this is why you have outside groups, groups like Turning Point and other folks coming in and saying, listen, we cannot wait for the party.
In 2020, we all said the same thing.
We don't want to vote early because there's potential fraud.
21, we said, well, let's see if the lawmakers will fix it.
2022, we said, well, let's see if the courts will fix it.
In 2023, we said, We need to take a look in the mirror and figure this out.
And so now, you know, we're at that point where these groups that do door knocking, groups like Mine Citizens Alliance of Pennsylvania, we are locking in on these swing states and we're running real programs because you cannot wait for the party.
If we wait, we're going to be waiting another decade.
Republicans in the statehouse did not fight back and let this go through because they didn't want to be called racist.
And of course, we have to let everybody vote.
There's a pandemic.
It's a bunch of garbage.
So they changed the rules that said, look, we're going to do 50 days of mail-in ballots, which to all of us who grew up in Pennsylvania, that's insane.
So they bring in their folks, they hire all the ballot chasers.
But the interesting thing is, The folks you're targeting are not election day voters.
By the way, same strategy, Democrat versus Republican.
If you move election day voters to early vote, it doesn't change the number.
What you have to do is there were roughly a million Democrats and a million Republicans in 2020 that we would call low propensity.
They either voted in just two of the last four, one of the last four, or none of the last four elections.
So low propensity, they're not very likely to vote.
Democrats went out and targeted them and said, hey, request a ballot.
And when you do that, it just tremendously increases their likelihood that they're going to vote.
So there's two phases.
Phase one is January 1 through September 1, which is right now, get low-propensity Republicans to request a mail-in ballot.
Because it's not automatic.
In some of these states, with the rules, it's, hey, every voter's going to get a ballot.
That's not how it is in PA.
You have to request it, and it resets every year.
So right now, we have people out there.
There's different organizations.
We have an app, PA Chase.
You can download it on Apple or Android.
But the universe we're targeting is we're going to the door with a mail-in ballot request form to those that are unlikely to vote, but they're aligned.
So Democrats did this in 2020, and they do it every year now, but they went out and got those low propensities.
That's why Joe Biden had two million mail-in ballots compared to Trump's 500,000.
I mean, like when you look at these numbers, even Federman and Oz, Federman had a million to Oz's 200,000 in change.
You cannot win when you're letting your opponent get up by such a wide margin.
And even culturally, what's fascinating to me is, If you look at it just based on the likelihood to vote, if you have 50 election days versus us who says, we're only going to vote on election day, we only have one chance.
You have 50 opportunities versus one.
Well, what happens if a good conservative goes to vote?
But guess what?
Their kid's soccer game ran late.
They missed it.
The polls closed.
We don't have the opportunity to go back.
But if you're knocking on somebody's door 50 days out, that's what the Democrats have done, and they say, oh, yeah, I'll vote.
Well, we get the data every 72 hours on who has voted.
So, a week later, guess what?
If John said, oh, I'll send my Republican ballot back in, and a week later we don't
see it in?
Follow up.
John, we're back here.
We want to get your ballot in.
The Democrats annoy people.
That's their whole strategy.
Right.
Just annoy them because they say, hey, how do I get you to stop coming back?
Send your ballot in.
Once your ballot's in, we're done.
Right.
It's just the culture was a major problem with the rule change, but I think 2024 changes
Trump has come out super positive on chasing ballots, early voting.
You know, he's really turned the tide on that.
And I just think the culture within the Republican Party, it's going to take some push, but we are very much close to where we need to be.
Obviously, a lot of Republican voters are very apprehensive, to say the least, about mail-in voting.
There's all sorts of reasonable questions about what happened in 2020, whether or not the machines are honest in the way they calculate these votes, or whether or not you can trust people with mail-in ballots as to whether or not they'll count Democratic votes multiple times, or whether they're just fraudulently filled out.
enlighten the audience a little bit about what you've observed or what your thoughts
are around the integrity of the mail-in process in terms of counting votes accurately and
whether or not Republicans can actually trust that if they mail their ballot in, it will
So before I agreed to do this, right, we've done door-knocking deployments throughout
the country for America first, liberty type candidates.
And before I agreed to move pretty much our whole team into Pennsylvania to take on this
PHAs, I said, I wanna look at the numbers.
I'm a former middle school math teacher, so I like to break it down and kinda understand
what are we working with.
I don't wanna just, you know, throw a Hail Mary and see if we can score.
So when we looked at the numbers.
What gives me a lot of optimism is they've already done as much as they can to maximize Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
They're going to do that again.
If you look at the 2020 numbers, the reason he won, you could argue this on the Democrat side, is because they made sure that the 92 to 94 percent of voters in PA and in Philly and Pittsburgh voted the Democrats.
So there's not much room there for them.
You know, you want to talk about, oh, well, they're just going to run up the score.
They've already done that.
And we still almost won.
So in 2024, if they do what they did in 2020, we know where they're going to be.
The key to what we're doing with the PHAs, and this usually settles folks who are a little worried, I'm not going into Philly and Pittsburgh.
But I'm telling you, like, that is the secret sauce is that we have to hire people who are ideologically aligned because, you know, we are in this to save the country.
And so when we're hiring people, you know, these are folks that are a hardcore American first that want to fight back against the deep.
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I am Chase Geiser, your host this evening with Cliff Maloney, talking about chasing ballots in Pennsylvania.
This is the type of stuff that is going to win this election for us.
But he touched on something at the beginning of the last segment that reminded me of this clip that I happen to have on the sheet already to cover in the second hour.
Let's run clip number 17 and unpack it on the other side.
That case, the Attorney General's case in New York, frankly, should have never been brought.
And if his name was not Donald Trump, and if he wasn't running for president from the former AG in New York, I'm telling you that case would have never been brought.
And that's what is offensive to people.
And it should be.
Because if there's anything left, it's belief in the justice system.
I would hate to be in the Biden-Moore room, if they even have that, we'll call it a little basement room, trying to figure out how you come back from that.
I mean, like I said, it is, I think this whole law fair against Trump will go down as one of the most studied political moments.
And so for Cuomo to say that, I mean, just completely dissolves any type of legitimacy for the left when their poster boy for a decade, the former AG in New York, is like, hmm, this wouldn't happen if his name wasn't Donald J. Trump.
Did you see that clip of him getting up in the middle of the CNN interview and peeing on the bookshelf?
Guys, you know the clip I'm talking about last week where the boyfriend from Fannie Wilson's boyfriend was being interviewed and then his handler came and interrupted the interview.
If you guys can find that, just say something in my ear because I want to run that.
I can't remember if I played it on Warren or something else.
When I see stuff like this, man, I don't even like I don't even know what to think anymore.
And, you know, Biden won, quote unquote, won in 2020.
I think there was a lot of nefarious activity going on, basically running a campaign from the basement.
You go see footage of his embarrassing rallies where they had The little numbered circles like it was a wedding at his rallies where people could stand that were guaranteed to be six feet apart.
So they would spread like, I don't know, four dozen people six feet a piece, you know, over like an entire acre of land or something.
They call it a rally.
So it was ridiculous.
But you have to think that when stuff like this, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
When stuff like this happens.
The American people must be seeing right through this.
And I'm wary of polls, man, because the polls were so wrong in 2016 that I don't buy whether they're right or left.
I just try to ignore them and just, you know, feel the pulse myself of the American people.
But do you think that, like, people are actually waking up?
Do you think there's a lot of people that voted for Biden in 2020 that are going to switch teams?
Or do you think it's more about just getting silent Republicans to show up?
So when I'm in Pennsylvania, or if I'm in a, you know, we were in Detroit for the Turning Point event last week, when you're talking to folks that are those types that could swing a state, this whole conviction thing, I mean, I have never had more normies that are not political people from either I went to high school with or family friends that are not in any way political saying,
it's crazy they're doing this to him, isn't it?
The other thing is, I don't think Democrats realize they now have to run on the current situation, right?
Biden is the president.
The world is in chaos, campus is erupting, Bidenflation, the border is run amok,
and you now have to defend that.
So you could run a campaign from your basement where you're saying, Orange Man bad,
Trump is evil, he's a fascist, and we have to get rid of him.
Obviously, in 2020, this whole pandemic, whether you think it was staged or not, however you feel about the vaccines or whether it was made in a lab, you guys know how I feel about all this stuff.
I think it was manufactured in a lab.
I think it was released intentionally by China in order to undermine Trump's presidency.
His strength was how amazing the economy was after 2019.
And the pandemic really undermined that because of the massive lockdowns, slowing the spread, you know, six feet to slow the spread, all of the mom and pop stores that just got eradicated while these major corporations were able to stay in business.
So basically every restaurant now is a fast food restaurant because all the other ones went out of business.
I mean, it's sad stuff.
And so people really felt in a very tangible, visceral way.
the struggles of the pandemic during the 2020 election and falsely attributed those struggles to a Trump
presidency because I think in people's minds,
whoever's in charge is responsible for what's happening now exclusively.
And ultimately the buck stops at the president.
And so generally speaking, that might be a good approach.
Although I think that he was really swindled by the deep state and just the political machine
that was against him and the international political machine
that was against him at the time.
So I voted for him happily and I think it was unfair not to,
but do you think that people feel the pain of everything that we're going through now
to the same level that they felt the pain of everything that we were going through in 2020?
My concern is that our problems today aren't as palpable as our problems in 2020.
I think there's different ways to look at it, but I think for the first time in probably the last 40 years, well, let's say after Reagan, Democrats love to run the media darlings, right?
Look at Obama versus Romney.
You have this situation where the media just, you know, is in love with Obama.
What are they doing right now with Biden, right?
They can't, they can't, this isn't some guy where it's like, oh, you know, he'd be a great diplomat and he'd be able to, you know, speak and represent us.
I think they're losing on that.
Usually, I'm an ideologue, right?
The policies to me are what matter.
I want a fighter.
I want to cut the unit party down.
I want to, heck, I want to cut all taxes.
I would love to see the 25% reduction in total spending in the Fed.
The reality is, usually we're focused on policies and it's boring and we can't hit on it.
Well, we won't get into that, but I think, but I think that it's it's they don't they usually have that to fall back on where it's like, you know, we're the rational party and I just think they don't have that this cycle.
Pretty much the Democrats, I would say about four, maybe six years ago, Realize that there were certain things for legal reasons, for dark money reasons, that they wanted to pull out of the party.
So when I say Democrats, I'm not just referring to the party, but there are these kind of left-aligned groups that have really understood how to share data.
And the sharing part's what's key.
So I will give Charlie Kirk and some of the guys over there, Tyler Boyer, a lot of credit because what they've done is the party is not solving the data issue.
And I don't think they should because they're just not capable.
Half of the states don't have a budget.
Same thing for Democrats.
Like in red states, they don't have a budget with their state party.
So once they started doing it, they're like, hold on, we're going to change the ruling here.
So now the FEC has said we can coordinate.
But pretty much groups like Scott Pressler's Early Vote Action, groups like Turning Point, we are all using this Superfeed app, which is built by trusted conservatives, hardcore fighters.
But the best part about it is it shares the data.
So if me and you go and we hit start knocking right now on the PHA's app, let's say I'm on the PHA's app, you're on the Turning Point Action app.
And we're both in, you know, let's say Lancaster, PA, and we're on the same street corner.
It's going to give me 15 houses in this direction, and then when you hit start knocking, even though it's a different app, we're talking to each other.
All that's shared, so we're not going to double up.
And better yet, when we're done knocking, All of the data gets shared back and funneled back so we can all review the results.
This is exactly the left's playbook and it's not something the party needs to handle.
It's outside groups need to come together, share all of that data, and funnel all of the activists to that.
And that, I will say for the first time in the history of Republican politics, that is happening in 2024.
So tonight, we'll refer to him as Sleepy Joe, because right now, As you know, it's been reported that right now Crooker Joe's gone to a log cabin to study, prepare.
Tucker Carlson came out, I think, when he was speaking with Alex Jones after the State of the Union address and said that he's heard that Biden's hopped up on all sorts of drugs and amphetamines.
It's almost Hitlerian.
Hitler's famous for having to stop the train to get jacked up from his private personal doctor.
You mentioned just briefly having moles inside about knowing what the Democrats are doing in terms of ballot chasers and how many they're hiring, things like that.
Have you heard anything from reliable sources about the litany of drugs that Joe Biden is on?
I mean, it's funny because I feel like Joe Biden, let's say as vice president, you know, him deteriorating through those eight years versus, I mean, even just his first, you know, three years in office compared to the last three months.
I mean, I feel like it is rapidly declining.
But the comments from Democrats that I do talk with, they're not even really denying it anymore.
I mean, when you mention it to them, it's like, you know, I mean, they're not saying he's taking X, Y, or Z, but they're like, yeah, like we really got to hope he's having a good moment and reacting well.
Why do you think it is that they've scheduled the DNC to be so late?
I believe it's later than it's ever been.
It's always been at least 90 days before the general election because that's more in line with state laws about sending your candidate on time to actually be on the state ballot.
And not only are they doing it so late, but they're also doing it virtually, apparently, this year.
They are worried that they're going to be in this situation where Joe Biden continues to trail with numbers, or he has some sort of episode live, or a stroke, or, you know, God forbid, something happens and he passes away, and they need to have options.
Now, here's the thing.
When people say, well, they can't switch him out because their new candidate won't be allowed in the ballot.
These are Democrats, folks.
These are not Republicans.
They will use the court system to make sure that their candidate is on every ballot.
So I think that the insane far lefties are going to have complete meltdowns.
I'm hoping we have some viral compilations you guys can put together and show it here
at InfoWars.
But I think it will be a breakdown moment for them.
But I think it'll actually be, if we pull this off and win, and Trump's back in the
White House, I think it'll be a big forced moment for Democrats to look in the mirror
and say, what do we represent?
What is our party?
What is our message to voters?
Because we can't just say Trump's the devil and stick with that.
It doesn't connect.
And I think you're going to see a situation where you're going to have new leaders rising up in the Democrat Party to say, hey, we got to reign this thing back and come up with a real solution for the people.
Yeah, I think folks need to spend a lot more time focusing on state races.
I think for a while we get very, very heated and emotional.
You know, we turn on and we see people talking about U.S.
Senate and congressional races, and obviously these races are all important, the presidential race being one of the most important.
But the people taking your liberty away every single day are that little old state rep in your state or that state senator, and they are the ones that we need to focus.
The left for the last 30 years has built a bench at the state level, and that's what I spend most of my time on before we did this chase, trying to build a bench of America first liberty legislators at the state level.
You do that, you take the country back.
COVID taught us.
The one thing that fought back against the out-of-control feds were states that had actual fighters.
2020 election taught us that who's certifying the election?
The states are the ones sending the electors.
We have to spend more time as a movement winning over those seats and putting real fighters in, not these corrupt, uniparty Republicans that are going to do anything.
Oh, how flattering it is to be introduced by John F. Kennedy.
We're going to be taking calls together.
We decided Cliff was only going to stay on for an hour, but we decided to hang out for the remainder of the show and take calls together.
So make sure you call in 877-789-2539.
Again, that's 877-789-2539.
I'm going to give the crew a chance to screen some of these calls.
The sooner you call, the more likely I am to be able to get to you.
I'm gonna give the crew a chance to screen some of these calls.
The sooner you call, the more likely I am to be able to get to you.
In the meantime, I want to cover this story of Maxine Waters.
Maxine Waters, there will be violence and more killings if Trump wins the election.
I want to run clip number 22 here.
Cliff and I will unpack that together and maybe I'll show you some cool clips from the Civil War propaganda movie about how you as a patriot are a terrorist and deserve to die.
Go ahead and run quote Tony to oh Oh, 22 is not in the folder.
Okay.
Okay, no problem.
Basically what happens in this clip is Representative Maxine Waters, Democrat of California, claimed that there will be violence and more killings in the U.S.
if former President Donald Trump wins the 2024 election in November.
MSNBC's The Saturday Show host Jonathan Capehart asked her, how concerned are you about the safety If your safety, specifically, if Donald Trump is re-elected, she says, I'm very concerned not only about my safety and not only about the safety of members of Congress, I'm concerned about the safety of so many people in this country, particularly people of color, Waters replied.
Donald Trump has said that if he does not win, it is going to be fraud.
And because it is going to be fraud, there will be blood in the streets.
Let's go ahead and run this clip, see what she says, and then we'll unpack it.
unidentified
How concerned are you, Congresswoman, about your safety if Donald Trump is re-elected?
Well, I'm very concerned, not only about my safety and not only about the safety of members of Congress.
I'm concerned about the safety of so many people in this country, particularly people of color.
Donald Trump has said that if he does not win, It's going to be fraud, and because it's going to be fraud, there's going to be blood in the streets.
He threatens about a civil war, and he threatens there's going to be violence.
So I say all of this talk is motivational with many of those who are racist, who are sitting at home listening to him, and they're taking him up on his threats even before the elections take place.
And so it's about Thousands, maybe millions of people, you know, being threatened and being at risk because of Donald Trump and his desire to wreak revenge on anything and everybody.
Instead of telling the truth in an entertaining way, they just lie to you in a really boring way.
It's just liars, boring.
Well, what's crazy about it to me is this whole narrative, like so much else from the left is one gas, one big gas lighting escapade because Well, they constantly say that right-wingers are extremists and domestic terrorists and white supremacists.
They just imply that and they explicitly say that.
I mean, we've seen this from Joe Biden's speeches a number of times, even the one where he had like the Sith lights behind him, the famous red lights behind him as he called everybody an extremist and a domestic terrorist.
Well, they say that we're the ones that want to cause some sort of a civil war.
They came out with this propaganda movie.
I'm gonna run clip 26 in a second here, guys.
They came out with this propaganda movie where they very obviously advocate for civil war in the event that Donald Trump wins.
And they said that it was obscure, that the movie wasn't biased, but it's very obvious, if you pay attention to this movie, that the President of the United States is a Donald Trump-esque figure This rebellion or this civil war has been in response to a federal government run by right-wingers and they justify war crimes.
I want to run clip number 26.
We can unpack this clip on the other side and make sure you don't forget to call in 877-789-2539 while the clip is running.
This whole movie celebrates just assassinating the President of the United States.
No trial.
They want to get a quote for his last words, please don't kill me.
And then the credits start to roll.
This is the end of the movie where it's just still shot after still shot of these insurgents smiling over the corpse of the President of the United States that they have just assassinated.
We're the ones that are responsible for Civil War.
We're the ones that will enact bloodshed if Donald Trump doesn't win, while they literally make a masterpiece in propaganda that advocates for the assassination of any right-wing president.
I mean, I saw this in theaters, and I could not believe it.
Like, they want to project that this is what we want to do, or this is what the right is trying to do, but the reality is, you know, anytime they're accusing us of something, it turns out the left is doing it.
And I just, I think people are just so tired of it.
You know, you see these things and they just, it's all talking points, and it's all just gobbledygook, and they're not saying anything.
But they want to start set themselves up for a situation where, well, you know, if this was to happen, we want to make sure we can point to the right.
I mean, Hillary Clinton denied the 2016 election times and they never called round on it.
But the second that Donald Trump did it in 2020, the second he asked questions, oh, my gosh, this is unprecedented.
Nobody's ever done this.
They do this purposefully to flip the script, but I mean, that scares the heck out of me watching that.
But the reason I know this is completely hogwash is, uh, I don't know any Democrat that can fire a rifle.
We've lost that, you know, that, that last two elections, anybody that, that knows how to carry a gun or shoot one, uh, would not be, uh, siding on that side.
But I think it's funny.
And they present the press is like, Oh, obviously these, these journalists are the only good guys in the whole movie.
And it's like, I wonder who, you know, put that script together, and obviously, you know, the legacy media, it's like, they're these little, oh, you know, we're the fair ones, and you know, we're doing this for decency.
I mean, it's in the film, but when you watch it, it's like, come on.
Like, obviously they're painting the narrative that they want.
I think we're actually in a post-Constitution state right now, and I look at this as a contra-revolutionary war.
We've got the psychopathic overlords in the establishment class fighting against we the people, and I think it started very assuredly on May 25th of 2020 when we saw Somaliapolis burn.
And state and federal officials, law enforcement, didn't stand for We the People and watched our businesses burn to the ground and millions of people lose their livelihoods.
And I don't have the confidence.
I love what your guest is doing, chasing votes in the Commonwealth.
I'm originally from Pennsylvania, now in Arizona.
But at the end of the day, the establishment class is going to count the votes.
And I find it hard to believe, based on what I saw in 2022 in Arizona, that they will Yeah, so I think there are two options.
One, we can get in a fetal position and cry and say that it's been stolen, and I had a lot of questions and a lot of qualms about all the rule changes in 2020.
If you change the rules when you're on the five yard line, I don't know if I'd call the winner the winner.
So, I think you have those options and, you know, I kind of came to terms with the idea of, look, I'm going to at least give it one cycle where I'm going to play by their rules.
I'm going to fight fire with fire.
Like I said, I'm going into Republican counties with Republican clerks.
And so, yeah, I think they want us to give up and make it a lot easier.
But I totally understand people that are frustrated and saying, listen, does it even make a difference?
To me, I'm really trying to tackle the one thing I think is the benefit that Democrats set up for themselves.
And if we can cut into that, With Joe Biden being as unliked as he is, and as all this momentum is with Trump, I think it's worth the fight.
Cash has been filming Complete Government Gangsters.
I'm going to play the trailer here towards the end of the show.
That film's coming out in the month of July.
It's going to be a blockbuster.
You're going to love it.
This audience is going to absolutely love it.
But Cash, you're driving.
Now, I had to get you up.
I've got two tweets about you, about my beatdown of Paul Ryan the other day, about talking about character, And, you know, Trump's lax character.
You brought two brutal tweets up about Paul Ryan's character related to the Steele dossier that has not gotten anywhere near the exposure it is.
Tell me what you got, brother.
unidentified
Hey Steve, great to be with you, thanks.
Remember in 2016, let's rewind the tape, it was Russia collusion, Russia collusion, Russia collusion, and then Speaker Paul Ryan enlisted me and Devin Nunes to investigate the Russia collusion.
Nobody knew what the Steele dossier was in 2016.
They had already gone to the federal court and unlawfully surveilled Donald Trump with it.
Well, we didn't find out until after we completed our investigation in 2018 was that the speaker, Paul Ryan, who charged us with investigating Russiagate, was the first guy to ever get a copy of the Steele dossier in 2016.
He never told us.
He still never admitted it.
It finally was admitted in a British court where Christopher Steele was being sued.
Just think about it, Steve.
We could have asked Where did you get it?
Who did you get it from?
How was it paid for?
All of these secrets could have come out under this man's very investigation, but he rigged it from the beginning.
So I'm done listening to lectures about the new conservative brand that is Paul Ryan, and anytime he wants to debate me, I'm all in.
He charged us with an investigation that he rigged because he didn't want Donald Trump to succeed.
He's so arrogant, he doesn't understand the simple fact that we But hold on, Cash, and I'll have you back on next week when we get you on Skype.
Are you telling me and telling this audience in a British court filing that Steele filed under penalty of perjury, he identified that Paul Ryan actually had the Steele dossier before he charged you guys at House Intel to look into this, and he never informed Devin Nunes, the chairman of that?
That's impossible to believe.
Are you sure about this?
unidentified
100% accurate, the Steele dossier was handed to Paul Ryan's chief of staff in 2016.
They put out a mealy-mouthed retweet to it, response to it, which basically said, oh, we didn't get it from Christopher Steele directly.
They admitted it in court that they had a copy the entire time, and they didn't tell us in 2016, they didn't tell us in 2017, they didn't tell us in 2018.
The quintessential piece of evidence which was exposed because I went to DOJ and got the FISA.
Which the Steele dossier was an entire part of, and Paul Ryan was the one that fought us tooth and nail on, remember, on declassifying it.
This is, I'm telling you, the rats and the serpents around President Trump are unbelievable.
Cash, I need people to go to not just your website, I need to go to your Twitter feed today, over the weekend, drill down.
I know you're going to be putting up a lot more information.
Where do they go?
unidentified
Truth Social, you know I'm not a part of the scam that is censorship.
I'm only on Truth Social, at Cash, at KSH.
We're gonna put out the documents from the British court pleading itself.
You don't gotta take my word for it as a Russiagate lead investigator.
Just go see it and read it for yourselves and show the community.
Every time Paul Ryan's out there on Fox News and everywhere else talking about his righteous sanctimony, Remember, this is a guy that cost Republicans the House majority.
Maybe we would have hung on to it if Paul Ryan told us he had the Steele dossier from Jump, who he got it to, how much he was paid for having it, and why he never told us the truth.
Maybe we should have been interrogating Paul Ryan under oath.
Well, I think when you have Republicans like Paul Ryan, who needs Democrats, right?
And I think that you have these situations, and you know, when I worked for Ron Paul on the Hill, I always used to laugh at how much the folks in D.C.
care about one thing, keeping the status quo, right?
I like to call them process people, right?
No offense to my friends that work on the Hill for some patriots, but it's funny when you go to these events and they're process people, right?
Oh, I'm part of the process, right?
What do you do in the process, you know, when you go to these cocktail receptions with these elitists?
And everything is about keeping the process, keeping the status quo.
The money's got to keep flowing, right?
So Paul Ryan sees Trump as an enemy because he's trying to break down the status quo.
He's trying to get rid of the rot and the corruption.
And so I'm with Vivek when Ram Swamy comes out and says, listen, we need to cut 50% of the federal workforce day one.
Paul Ryan wants to get in the way of that because that is not going to keep the trains
running that he's trying to continue down the track.
So I think you have a lot of situations where Trump was in the way of what the UNA party
wanted and they're going to do whatever they need to do to push back and make sure that
he gets in line or at least attempt to get him to get in line.
So I don't trust a lot of these Republicans.
I think a lot of them need to be primaried out of office ASAP.
But anybody that is working within the deep state or somebody that's in power in that city, you really have to dig deep into what do they believe and what is their rationale or their motivation for being there.
I honestly think the most powerful thing that you said this entire interview, and you said some powerful things, was when you pointed out that the reason consultants aren't pushing for door knocking and other avenues of spending and innovative ways to campaign for America First candidates is because these consultants get 15% on the ad buy.
I mean, that is a serious, serious... I mean, we complain all the time on this network about Insider trading, whether it's Dan Crenshaw or Nancy Pelosi, we complain about the major problem that is, you know, Nancy Pelosi is so invested in video that if China attacks Taiwan, she's going to have personal financial interest in getting the United States into a war with China.
Right.
And this is something that they've legalized for themselves.
I mean, term limits are a big problem.
The insider trading being legal is obviously a major problem.
The more they spend on F-15s after they invest in Boeing or whatever for Ukraine.
I mean, they're making so much money legally doing unethical things that they have protected under the law in this conflict of interest, whether it's Paul Ryan or others, where there's 15 percent kickback on ad buys for outdated and antiquated Campaign strategies?
I mean, this is literally the financing of the death of our party for the sake of lining their own pockets.
How do we solve this problem?
And these people need to be put up against the wall politically.
Look to Congress when you have people like Paul Ryan who get on the floor, not him now, but somebody like a Kevin McCarthy or these other people in leadership like Steve Scalise and these other, they get up there and they argue, you know, We need to be fiscally conservative, you know.
We need to cut our domestic welfare, and we have to keep supporting our troops.
Then the Democrats get up there, and AOC says some crazy stuff, and then Hakeem Jeffries gets up there, and he says, you know, we need to support lower-income families, and we need to cut, you know, some of this military defense spending that the Republicans are always talking about.
So what do they do?
They leave the floor, they get their TV clip, their moment, they go into the smoky room, and they say, hey, guess what?
And they continue to sell out the American people.
We got to deal with the inflation.
We have to deal with the Fed printing the money.
We're borrowing the money from China.
This has to come from somewhere.
And eventually this is all going to come back to bite us in the rear end.
But the party, the Uniparty, doesn't care.
And so when people like Trump or other folks come up that are going to be disruptors that
are going to tear things down, they react, they play defense.
They have to because they're installed there to defend the unit party and keep the money
coming.
It's an incentive problem.
So how do you how do you fix it?
You take a House Freedom Caucus.
Well, now let me take a step back.
I gotta plug the states again.
You get patriots to step up and run across the country at the state level, and we start to actually have a bench of hardcore folks that have name ID, that know how to run a campaign, they win state office, and then you turn the Freedom Caucus into 50 members.
That's the Delta, by the way.
90% of Republicans that are elected to Congress are going to follow along with whatever leadership says.
You get 50 Republicans to be actual hardcore fighters who are going to defend the Constitution and aren't going to be weak Freedom Caucus types?
That's the pivotal moment where we can start to build that momentum and it becomes a snowball.
The rest of the Republicans will follow along.
Yes sir, just tell me what to do.
As long as I get re-elected, just tell me what to do.
I want to get re-elected.
I want to get elected to higher office.
This is all that motivates them.
And so I think that is what you're going to have to deal with.
You've got to get enough of a base, but you better not get in the way of the Uniparty because they will do everything they can to destroy you and to make sure that they keep that money coming.
Josh, go ahead and say what you've got to say right now.
unidentified
Hey, I want to say that I agree with what he just said.
That is the fact of the matter, and that's the hardest Um, thing that we have to deal with right now is that we have to overcome that by being rational.
We have to be as educational as we can with the other side.
And the only way that we're going to be able to come to terms with people is by literally sitting down and like sitting with these people and saying, Hey, how can we deal with these situations?
And you have to come up with solutions.
And that's the big problem is like, Right now, I see this so much on, like, for instance, like my social media feeds is there is so much angst amongst people that they can't come to solutions and solutions are the, you know, that's how we're going to get past this.
We're going to overcome it.
But at the same time.
Right now, we're facing some adverse effects, like, you know, Robert Epstein said the other day that.
You know, we have institutional Things that are happening like, you know, through Google and entities like that that we have no control over that are biasing and implementing a lot of people.
So like, you know, the only real solution is just to be grassroots all the time, like, because grassroots is what works.
That's what is, you know, influential.
I mean, Look at Owen and Alex's best pieces of work.
Your girlfriend's probably descended from Genghis Khan.
But I'm 100% with you on this whole thing, man.
The immigration thing is ridiculous because good people who want to come here can't do it legally in an efficient way, and bad people who want to come here can just walk across the border.
I want to run clip number 23, which ties directly into what you were saying, Jay, and then Cliff and I will unpack it on the other side.
Go ahead and run it.
unidentified
Day one, the current President Biden was elected.
He immediately, by the stroke of a pen, Undid everything that President Trump had done in closing the border.
We had security at the border.
We were vetting the people that wanted to come in.
And with the stroke of a pen, day one, he opened the border.
He opened the doors without any vetting process.
So it was his choice.
He has to take responsibility for that, he and his administration.
You do know that there is vetting that border officials do when they encounter someone?
No, they don't.
They do.
I've been to the federal facilities.
When someone is detained, when they are captured, when they cross illegally, they are taken into federal custody and those agents do vet people.
The success of that vetting may be in question, the efficacy of it, but they are.
If someone sneaks in undetected, then they're definitely not vetted.
Cliff, you sound like an earnest person that's doing the best you can with the right issue when it comes to mailed-out votes, mailed-out ballots, trying to chase down those ballots and get Republicans to make use of them, you know, when a million people in Pennsylvania don't even bother to vote.
There's a real problem.
But as the other caller mentioned, Robert Epstein was saying that, you know, the undecided voters really are what swing an election when it's within 4% of margin of victory.
But I like what you're trying to do.
Just to keep it simple, back in 2020, 156 million people supposedly voted.
Now that's like 13 million more people than were supposed to be on the registration rolls.
So if the registration rolls are contaminated, then chasing down mailed-out ballots is a kind of fool's errand, don't you think?
I mean, it's really the registration rolls that need to be decontaminated
with all these excess people that are voting in three or four different states and don't know it
because the secretaries of state don't clear the voters' rolls of these people
that shouldn't be on their rolls to begin with.
So numerically, it's just impossible to do the right thing in chasing down votes
and doing what Scott Pressler is doing and thinking it's gonna have an effect
when they can contaminate the voter rolls and mail out ballots.
And you know, one of the tricks they do is they mail out ballots with the wrong address, the wrong zip code, so those ballots come back to the Secretary of State and they can fill those ballots out any way they want to.
Jefferson, I probably agree with you a lot more than you might think.
And this is why when, you know, I was looking at the numbers in 2022 and trying to figure out, you know, is this worth doing?
The rules are not going to be changed, right?
They're not going to clear the voter roll.
I wish they would.
Right, I'm going to vote on election day.
I want one day of voting.
I want paper ballots.
I don't even trust the scanners.
People complain about the machines.
I don't even want them scanning the ballot.
Do a hand count.
Let's go back to how we did it years ago, how most of the world does their elections, and I think we should focus on that.
But I think we have a couple options this cycle of ways that we're trying to actually win.
So I think that they've maximized their numbers in Pittsburgh and in Philadelphia.
And what I mean by that is I think you're right.
I think almost every single ballot that went out in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, they were able to get back.
Anybody that was Democrat or anybody's ballot, they were able to get their hands on.
But at a certain point, the registration numbers in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are actually trending in the wrong way for Democrats since this conviction.
And so you get to a point where they can only add so many ballots.
Now people that think, well, they're going to wait and put the number in.
I don't know how you combat that.
That's my honest answer.
If you think that there's a wizard of Oz behind who's going to be able to pick the number,
well, then there's no reason that we should try at all.
And so where I come down on this is we're in red counties for a reason.
I want to be somewhere where the people counting the votes are our people.
And I think if you look at the rolls in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, they've already maximized the rolls.
Let's say they bump it up another two or three percent.
Where Biden is trending right now, I still think Trump can win, but I think you have a choice.
Do you try to turn out as many people as possible, both on election day and in red counties by mail?
Or do we just sit out?
But I'm with you.
I got a lot of questions.
I'm digging in here.
I'm peeling back the onion.
But I think at the end of the day, focusing on red counties, the low propensity where Republican clerks are going to count the ballots, that's where we need to be.
And by the way, there are tons of organizations that are doing election integrity, poll watching, lawyers on site.
That's not my bag, right?
We need that.
We need folks there.
We need to make sure we have eyes and ears on the ground.
But for what I'm doing and trying to turn out the voters that are aligned with us, I still feel strongly that the best path is to go into red counties where we can trust the count and run up the score, because they've already maximized Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
Yeah, I appreciate that he's trying to do the right thing and he's trying to play by the rules, but as I've said to Owen and I've said to you, Chase, these people are so far gone on the left that they don't care if the rigging of the election is blatant to the point where it's easily provable, they will still call us terrorists for pointing out that they cheated.
That's where they're willing to go.
They're willing to hunt us down and put us in camps because we can show that they cheated in the upcoming election.
And they're just going to cheat anyway, because they're in power and they want to stay in power.
I don't disagree with you at all that they're going to cheat and call us extremists, but I think that their ability to cheat is probably to the tune of five to ten percent.
I think that we can beat them so badly that we're too big to rig, to use the expression.
But Jefferson, I appreciate your call and your concern.
I don't really take issue with anything you said, but I just don't think we should roll over on this.
We should do everything we can, regardless of what this outcome is going to be.
Even if they are cheating, it doesn't mean stay home.
It means fight twice as hard, as far as I'm concerned.
But thank you so much for your call.
I appreciate it.
Andrew in New York.
Andrew, you want to talk a little bit about the July 4th Constitutional Convention.
I'm not sure if that's what it's called exactly, but what it is is basically we're going from the corporation, so I think it was back like in the 1800s, we got into debt.
I think it was multiple countries, but the main one was like the financial district in London.
And so basically they haven't been using the regular constitution.
And like, I mean, so Yeah, there's definitely some very nefarious things going on in terms of the globalists and the meetings that are happening.
I mean, one of the things that I noticed that was astounding is Secretary Blinken, all of a sudden, throughout the last several months, has been criticizing various African nations for their human rights violations.
So they're criticizing like Kenya and others for their gay rights policies.
And maybe that was just because we were coming up on Pride Month and they were trying to do PR, but you look
into it and you look at these African nations, they've all been accused of underhanded
uranium exports to Iran.
So it seems like a lot of these conversations are actually because of this shadow war that's
going on, this shadow World War III.
And speaking of that, I do want to go to Joe in New York.
You want to talk a little bit about the dollar and inflation false wars with China.
Joe, what are your thoughts on World War III and what's going on?
unidentified
I'm a player like Alex, however, I'm also a historian and quoting on some past historians
like Marcus Aurelius and some present ones like Gerald Salente.
When all else fails, they do bring you to war.
Unfortunately, everybody's paying attention to the voting machines, but people forget in history, whoever was the leader of the country during the wartime becomes a hero.
And unfortunately, we are in a World War III situation.
That's the bad part.
The good part of it is it's not going to be nuclear because banks would lose control if we want nukes.
What they do have is NATO, which is a money-making machine, and they're going to generate a lot of money for the defense sector by producing jets over it and basing them out of Poland or Lithuania or whatnot.
We're going to have a draft.
The draft is going to come back.
Halliburton, BlackRock, all those companies are going to make big money.
And we're going to have a controlled war with China based on the threat of Tiananmen Island, which is part of Taiwan.
What are your thoughts in terms of our position internationally right now?
And I think Trump presented this idea that, look, They don't hate us cuz we're free, right?
We're serving as the world's emperor and he said enough is enough.
I want to stop the dying.
Yes, he says that there's nothing more direct than saying that and everybody else wants
to pontificate about why we have it's always ends with us sending troops or sending money
for other troops to kill other troops.
And Trump said enough's enough.
You defense contractors go sit down, play in the children's pen over here.
Us adults at the table are gonna solve things.
Biden can't even pick up the phone to try to come to some sort of ceasefire in any of
these countries that are in conflict.
And I think that is one of the major reasons why Trump connected with people and the Uniparty went after him because the Uniparty is funneling money through the military-industrial complex, one of the biggest expenses.
You know, people debate about whether or not the 2020 election was legitimate or not.
I happen to think that it was rigged.
In the very least, just because they changed all the rules mid game, right?
Regardless of whether or not fraudulent ballots were submitted or machines were hacked, regardless of all those details, it's very obvious that the rules were changed unfairly in the middle of the race.
And to me, that's enough for me to say that it was rigged.
Not to mention the fact that COVID was clearly manufactured and then leaked intentionally.
I mean, the fact that China allowed international flights in and out of Wuhan, but would not allow domestic flights in and out of Wuhan just tells it all about them trying to intentionally spread this worldwide, right?
So that being said, the other fact that other people don't talk about, and you touched on it just implicitly, is Even if Joe Biden was elected legitimately, let's just hypothetically concede, just for the sake of argument, that he was legitimately elected President of the United States and he's serving because the will of the people is being represented.
It's very obvious that the person or people doing the job of President of the United States do not include Joe Biden.
So even if he was legitimately elected, whoever's doing the job, whoever's running the White House wasn't.
And that brings me to my question, Cliff, who is running the White House?
Yeah, I don't think it's, you know, Barack Obama or Big Mike.
What I think it is, is I think you have Certain people with the defense contractors, certain people that need DC to keep humming, that want to avoid disruptors.
And look, I'm gonna say this on your show, I don't think it's any different between Bush, Obama, or Biden.
I just don't.
I think the same people that were around during Bush are the neocons and the people that are the enemy.
I think Trump was the first president, I'm 33 as well, so in my lifetime, the first president that really brought forward a disruption And when you start to shatter, you know, that that perfectly protected D.C.
class, they're going to throw everything they got.
I mean, that's what they're doing.
Look at what they're doing to him.
And so I just think that, you know, Biden right now, they're trying to hold on to that.
They're trying to figure out if he is the one that can get across the finish line.
The second they think he can't win, they're going to dump him.
And right now, for some reason, they still think they can get him across the finish line.
You know, speaking of this persecution and attack of Trump, I do want to get this clip in.
This is clip number two.
Even Judge Judy slams Alvin Bragg's persecution of Trump during CNN interview.
Let's run clip two and then unpack it.
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I would be happier, as someone who owns property in Manhattan, if the District Attorney of New York County would take care of criminals who are making it impossible for citizens to walk in the streets and use the subway, to use his efforts to keep those people off the street, than to spend $5 million or $10 million of taxpayers' money trying Donald Trump on this nonsense.
That's my view.
But I, as a taxpayer in this country, resent using the system for your own personal self-aggrandizement.
Now, if you didn't know... And that's what you think the DA did in Manhattan?
That's what I think.
I mean, if you look... He had to twist yourself into a pretzel to figure out what the crime was.
He doesn't like him.
New York City didn't like him for a while.
Trump.
Trump.
What do you think of Donald Trump?
What do I think of him?
I think he was...
A good businessman, a real estate guy, and he was certainly terrific on The Apprentice.
But it used to be political suicide, not political, but career suicide for somebody like Judge Judy who's, you know, worked in Hollywood.
I don't know if you call Hollywood as TV, and I know that she was a specific thing because she was a judge for, you know, one of those reality judge shows, Judge Judy.
But career suicide to come out and say anything even remotely in support of Trump.
Now we see people that we would think would probably be left-leaning, or at least in heavy left areas, coming out in droves, whether it's Cuomo or Judge Judy, making comments like this because they've really overplayed their hand, haven't they?
Judge Judy is another problem for Democrats because Mary Jo Beer Can, the regular everyday voter, we like to call her Mary Jo Beer Can, it's my entire family and the people I grew up with.
They love judge Judy, right?
Judge Judy, she speaks the language of the everyday working class man and woman.
And I think for her to come out, she's a former Manhattan judge, you know, before she was on the TV stuff, like she was a Manhattan judge.
And for her to come out and be like, yeah, it's a crack of crap.
And the fact that they did it to Trump is horrible.
And then, yeah, like you said, for her to praise Trump again, obviously she's trying to be neutral, but like you said, think about that Overton window and how much that has shifted from the last five to six years of we cannot say anything positive about Trump if we're in any type of show business.
It's just different now.
And I think we talked earlier about Cuomo coming out, the former AG, the former governor, saying it's a sham.
Judge Judy, a former Manhattan judge, saying it's a sham.
And it's not these rabid Donald Trump supporters, right?
I would just like to pay a tribute to InfoWars because I've been watching the shows for like two years and you woke me up to the truth and within a matter of days, no matter what you believe or not, InfoWars gonna end up with a Bible in your hands.
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I think, first of all, we need to vote Chase Geyser for president with that comment.
Absolutely.
A man with real solutions.
I like that.
Hey, just want to pass along a public service announcement to everybody, and if you guys can kind of swirl this around in the establishment there.
I have found, so I wanted to get the Dr. Mark video out to everybody and send it out on Wednesday.
Oddly enough, I found that I wasn't really getting any kind of response from anybody on this, which I expected I would have.
Here's what I've determined.
Verizon, most certainly, if you do not have an iPhone and you are texting and it is not going as an iMessage but a text message, they are censoring MadMaxWorld.tv.
Well, Scott, thank you for that call and for that tip.
That's new news to us, but I don't doubt it at all.
We will definitely look into that.
Pat in New York, you wanted to talk a little bit about election fraud.
This is probably going to be our last caller, then we'll give Cliff a chance to respond to you and remind the audience where to find him and wrap it up.
I just want to talk about, I pulled this, actually now you're the triple threat.
Now I actually spoke with you.
But um, now I want to remind everyone that Tim Sullivan out of New York, New York City back in 1913, 1915, he was the guy who first came up with the handgun laws because what happened was people were shooting back at his bug.
Not only that, but he also brags in a book about writing about how that he'll have these people voting and they'll vote with a beard, then they'll vote with a goatee, then they'll vote for the mustache.
Sure, pachase.com, out on X or Twitter, as the old heads would call it, at Maloney.
Chase, I appreciate you.
Heck, the program, I'm going to get tongue-tied here, because P.A.
Chase has been everything I've said for the last six months, and your name's Chase, so I'm trying to stick with it, but appreciate InfoWars, appreciate you, appreciate Alex, and everything you guys do to get the truth out there.
Big reason why so many patriots have woken up, so thanks for all that.
It's been an honor and a pleasure to have you, man.
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