Owen Shroyer and Alex Rosen compare America to the Titanic as it collides with vaccine debate tensions, spotlighting pediatrician Peter Hotez’s refusal to debate RFK Jr. despite a $1.52M fundraiser, his shifting COVID-19 vaccine stance tied to Biden’s presidency, and accusations of medical establishment hypocrisy. They link vaccine skepticism to claims of autism, deaths, and corporate-government cover-ups while framing Hotez’s avoidance as proof of globalist fragility, contrasting it with leftist confrontations like Antifa’s. The segment ends with Alex Jones rallying listeners to financially support "truth-tellers" against perceived censorship, suggesting the debate reflects deeper ideological battles over health, borders, and family policy. [Automatically generated summary]
I was like, "Oh, I'm a little bit of a little bit." I was like, "Oh, I'm a little bit."
I got the intellectual wind knocked out of me before we go on air.
I mean, literally minutes before we go on air because we're getting ready to cover a big story and take your calls on it.
And I'm just walking around and, you know, getting a glass of water and everything.
Just get, you know, preparing for what I'm going to say when I come on air.
And I had an idea.
And I had a concept in my head about how America is encroaching an iceberg.
It's about to hit the Titanic.
We can all see it coming.
And in this one instance, I'm talking about the debate when it comes to vaccines and their effectiveness, or are they causing autism or other side effects?
And there's a huge, huge story developing around that right now.
But that's just like one cut of the iceberg.
That's just one jagged edge of the iceberg.
The entire iceberg is debate.
And then it has all these different jags coming out, where it's like political debate, policy debate, border debate, health debate, vaccine debate, and it's all these things.
And America is the Titanic, getting ready to just smash into that rock.
Or iceberg, rather.
So I'm going to explain that, but You just, you look, you look at the creatures.
I mean, genuinely, these are creatures.
When they do movies, to be dramatic, they make the bad guys, the creatures, look evil.
They go above and beyond, they want them to have that evil look, that evil aura.
But here's the debate, and there's multiple angles to this, and I'm glad we're having it.
But Alex Rosen from Predator Poachers, a man who captures pedophiles, exposes pedophiles for a living, went after, wrong terms, but confronted peacefully, Dr. Professor Peter Hotez about a challenge
That has been laid down, the gauntlet, the pot, by the way, is over one and a half million dollars for that, for this guy, caught by Predator Poacher's host Alex Rosen, coming on with me at seven o'clock, the guy that busts pedophiles for a living, asks Dr. Professor Peter Hotez if he's going to take a million and a half dollar offer for charity to debate his stance on vaccines, and Hotez won't do it!
And that was, as of this morning, my guess is this pot has increased.
Since then.
To charity, mind you.
It could go to a children's hospital.
It could go to the hospital that Professor Dr. Peter Hotez works at.
He could really fix it up nice for those kids.
But he won't have the debate.
How many vaccines has Dr. Peter, Professor Hotez, Professor Peter, Dr. Peter, How many children has Dr. Peter put his vaccine into?
A hundred?
A thousand?
Or zero?
I mean, if it's zero and he doesn't want to defend his stance on vaccines, then that's fine.
He's not putting vaccines into children.
He's got an opinion on them and he doesn't need to back it up as a doctor.
He's not actually practicing.
Maybe even if he is promoting it, we'll play a clip.
Is he promoting it, by the way?
Maybe he's not so sure.
But if he is vaccinating children, I'd like to know how many children has Dr. Peter vaccinated
But you'd think if it's one, if it's one, he would be willing to have the debate and back up why he injected a child, why he put a needle and penetrated a child with a needle if he didn't actually believe it or couldn't tell you why it was a good thing.
So this is just, we're just zooming in on this little area of the iceberg that we're hitting here.
And let me just jump to the next one, or jump on top of it, out of the water, exposed, and explain to you what's really going on, and then get back to this issue.
We haven't had genuine debate in this country for probably about 10 years, I would say.
About 10 years.
And I look at what I was able to do, In 2014 and 15 and then mostly in 2016 and 17, going out on the streets and really just going face-to-face, engaging the left, engaging the liberals, and forcing them to debate me.
And I would even say that this created an entire genre of content now that a bunch of people are repeating, and that's you go out and you try to find these leftists, the Trump haters, the pro-abortion crowd, the anti-gun crowd, whatever it is, and you just put a mic in their face and say, what are your views?
And you realize they don't even know!
They don't even have views!
And then you can see how programmed they are And you know every response that they're going to make.
So then you can just set them up for failure.
You can just walk them right off their own political, philosophical, logical ledge.
You just walk them right off of it.
Now of course, I can't even go out and get that content anymore just because of all the violent threats and the violence and the assaults that I have to deal with and I never get any charges pressed.
Unfortunately, I'm about 1 for 20 in that department.
So that's fine.
But you see, the whole reason why that was popular is because it forced liberals and leftists to defend their ideology in real time and they could not do it and they've never been able to do it Thank you.
But see, they've never been so passionate and emboldened about their stances now.
And so when you go out, And you've got these people hootin' and hollerin' over these stances that they got just force-fed to them by the mainstream media, total propaganda, and they're hootin' and they're hollerin' and they're poundin' their fists, and I mean, folks, I've seen crazy stuff.
The outfits, I've seen it all.
And they don't even know why they're out there.
I've gone to pro-impeach Trump rallies, and none of them know why he's being impeached.
So I'm getting off onto a jag here, but the point is, the lack of debate in this country, it's, it's, it's out of time, folks.
The clock is hitting zero.
But now that the clock's hitting zero, we're realizing what's actually going on.
We're realizing who's not willing and able to debate.
So this one is easy to call.
On the vaccine issues, it's the pro-vaccine Professor Dr. Peter, who doesn't want to debate RFK Jr.
Even though over a million and a half dollars has been raised to give to charity of Dr. Peter's choice, all he has to do is show up for a debate on the Rogan Podcast with RFK Jr.
Where do you see political debate happening in this country?
We don't even try anymore, but we used to try to invite liberals on the show all the time, just as a matter of journalistic integrity and doing the job of it, because I remember when I was When I was just getting started in media, I was always trying to land big guests for the show hosts and stuff.
And they'd say, hey, try to get that guest.
Even though it was like a long shot, I'd still send out an email.
Just so you say, hey, we did it.
We reached out.
Sometimes you might land one.
But no, we reached out to all the Media Matters people, Right Wing Watch.
I became friends with a couple of these people, actually.
And then they would still, like, write stuff about me.
Watches every show, writes stories about me, lies about me, won't come on air and debate me.
So, the left, and that's what it is, hasn't showed up to the debate stage for some time now.
They used COVID as the excuse to cancel debates since 2020.
They're going to cancel debates already heading into the 2024 presidential election.
The left, politically the left, will not show up to the debate stage.
They are not willing and they are not able.
They know their logic has failed them.
They know their worldview is false.
They know their political philosophies are destructive.
They cannot show up.
But see, thanks to this angle with the vaccines now, it's all going to be exposed.
Because now you're gonna have people that just realize, I can bet my farm, I can bet my house, I can bet my left testicle that this liberal's not gonna show up for a debate, and you're feeling fine, you're not gonna have to lop your balls off, like a liberal's child.
Like, yeah, I bet my right nut, I bet my right nut that Dr. Peter won't show up to debate me on vaccines, and Dr. Peter, oh, I'm not gonna show up for that debate, ha, I knew that!
Yeah, Joe Rogan here, let me go through the list.
But let me finalize the point.
So we're about to see right now, this is gonna be so huge.
And thank God for RFK Jr.
And Joe Rogan and everybody else making a big fuss of this.
And Elon Musk as well.
Elon should just say, I'll donate $10 billion if he has this debate.
He's not gonna do it.
I mean, just show the world what cowards the medical establishment really are.
Show the world how RFK Jr.' 's research and stance on vaccines are, is wrong, Dr. Peter.
Won't do it.
So it's all, so this is going to become a huge phenomenon.
And we kind of already just like, they got us.
They tricked us on this.
They tied our shoelaces together and we fell down.
And then they said, see, no debates now.
With the whole COVID thing.
But it's back.
It's back.
This is going to raise the conversation.
People are going to say, why don't we have debates happening anymore?
Why are people not willing to debate?
We have all these people begging for a debate.
Let's get it on the table.
Who's not showing up?
Who doesn't want to have the debate?
And I can tell you, every single group, politically, that's not going to show up for the debate, will not be willing and able to show up to the debate.
The pro-diversity crowd.
The pro-abortion crowd.
The anti-gun lobby.
The pro-vaccine crowd.
The pro-public education... Department of Education crowd.
I mean, there's five just right off the bat.
Just guaranteed.
A Democrat voter!
Your average Democrat voter cannot debate policy.
So political policy.
Leftist wonks.
Leftist political wonks.
These are all the groups that will refuse to have a debate.
They always want to be the only ones at the table.
And they always want to have the most power, the most control.
They want control over your life.
How about the climate change crowd?
And notice how all these crowds I'm talking about, they're the ones that want control over your life.
The anti-gun lobby wants control over your life.
The climate change cult wants control over your life.
The pro-vaccine medical establishment cult wants control over your life.
Those are three groups of people that want control over your life, but they're not willing to show up and debate the ideologies and the policies that they want to implicate your future with.
So, I mean, the pot as of this morning, and guys, just see if there is an update to this on the Chief Nerd's Twitter account.
This was this morning at 8 a.m., it is now after 6 p.m.
here in Austin, Texas.
You've got... Let's go down the list.
I don't even think this is all of them, but it might be.
You've got Cobra Tate, Nick Magali, Bill Ackman, Joe Rogan, Patrick Bett David, Steve Kirsch, Richard M.D., Tim Cass, Tim Pool, Jason Howerton, Real PDB, Dr. Syed Haider, And, uh, a bunch of other, just, just Twitter names there.
I'm not, I'm not sure what the actual name is, so I'm not just gonna read these weird Twitter names out.
But, up over one and a half million dollars.
I guess I should give you a little bit of the background here.
RFK goes on the Joe Rogan Podcast.
And, I guess they published that, I think it was Thursday, it was this week.
And, Rogan and RFK Jr.
and then Elon Musk gets involved on Twitter are blowing up the clips and blowing up the story specifically on COVID vaccines and the deaths caused and the rise of autism with the rise of vaccines.
And so, Hotez did what all leftists thought they can do and that's come in, try to create a false narrative, Do a fake fact check, censor silence the opposition, and then get away without any pushback at all.
That's what the left wants and expects.
They want to be able to completely control the conversation and the narrative with no pushback whatsoever.
That's why they're mad that Joe Rogan is not controlled.
That's why they're mad that Alex Jones is not controlled.
Tucker Carlson.
RFK Jr.
The list goes on.
And so, Hotez thought he could just respond to the video clips, respond to the podcast, respond to RFK Jr.
and Elon Musk talking about this, making it a huge issue on Twitter, and then just not have any backlash and not be forced to defend what he's saying in a debate arena.
Oops, oops, oops.
I think a million and a half raised in 24 hours is a pretty good barometer on how thirsty this country is, this world is, for debate.
Because you see, we're sick of being forced into these policies that have failed us at every turn.
That much is obvious.
They won't even debate that.
See, that's what I've learned is, they're so afraid of the debate stage now, folks, because they can't, they won't even be honest about what woman is!
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They can't even commit to telling you what a woman is!
I have a feeling that this is going to happen multiple times.
What a coward!
At this point, if you're Dr. Peter, and you don't show up to the debate, not only have you lost the debate, If you showed up, you'd at least look like you have a backbone, and maybe you believe you've had vindication over the years.
If you don't show up to this debate, then that just shows that you have no confidence, and that you know that Rogan and Musk, and more importantly, RFK Jr., are right.
They're right.
And you know they're right.
And that's why you can't show up to debate them.
Now, let's go ahead and play a clip now, a little compilation of Dr. Peter and...
Anti-vaccine, pro-vaccine, maybe he's not so sure himself.
Look at this compilation of his television interviews on COVID vaccines.
And by the way, if you're over 50 and have gotten two boosters, and more than two to four months out, you're gonna need a third booster as well, a fifth immunization.
Five!
I don't think we're gonna need an annual booster like flu.
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Eventually.
Dr. Hotez supports yearly boosters, just like flu.
First of all, that was hilarious from Racket.News.
Well done.
But I want you guys to just play the beginning of that one more time.
And let's just see here.
I'm the professor now.
Not Professor Peter.
But I'm the professor now.
Let's see how well the class has learned.
What changed between March 2020, when Dr. Hotez said, be afraid of the COVID-19 vaccines, to March 2021, when he said they're the best ever, take infinite COVID-19 vaccines?
What changed class?
See if you've been paying attention.
But guys, play March 2020, Dr. Peter, one more time.
And he's with, put that back on the screen in front of it so I can correctly identify that Dr. Peter Hotez is with the Texas Children's Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.
He's the co-director.
How many children have been vaccinated Under Dr. Peter's watch, but he's not willing to go on the Rogan Podcast and defend his stance on vaccines.
Okay, so what was the difference between March 2020 and March 2021?
The President of the United States went from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.
And so in Dr. Peter's defense, he was just reading off the Democrat Party sheet music.
He was just singing the Democrat Party sheet music because Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, everybody else said the COVID-19 vaccine is bad, they called it the Trump vaccine, and they told you not to get it, it could potentially be deadly.
And then as soon as Joe Biden got into the White House, they changed the sheet music and they said COVID-19 vaccine great, Joe Biden saved your life.
Now the vaccines didn't change, the ingredients didn't change, the manufacturers didn't change, the only thing that changed was the President of the United States.
Unless, of course, I'm wrong and Dr. Peter will explain something different when he goes on the Rogan Podcast to debate RFK Jr., but $1.5 million says he ain't gonna do it.
Alright, we're back here live.
It's InfoWars Sunday Night Live.
By the way, happy Father's Day to all the fathers tuned in on this June 18th edition of InfoWars Sunday Night Live, the Father's Day edition.
Black dads are more likely to play, dress, and share a meal with their child.
Data shows.
Black fathers are often portrayed as absent or distant, but that isn't what most people experience according to both data and black dads themselves.
Such bias portrayals are often based on who is telling the story.
Ah, who's telling the story.
You know, the fact that they had to make Father's Day about race really shows you something about them.
But, What's actually sad about this is all they're doing is poking at the scars and the wounds that they want to keep on black culture in this country.
That's all it is.
They see a black kid with a cut on its leg.
It's healing up.
Here comes CNN.
Here come the Democrats.
They're going to gouge that wound a little bit.
They're going to poke it.
Rip it up a little bit so it's still bleeding and fresh for you to remember.
And then blame their political opposition.
Hey, he did that!
CNN comes up, rips all your wounds that are healing off, and cuts them all back open, and then says, yep, they did that!
That was them right there!
Can you believe that?
Because... And I understand why people get upset.
And I even understand why this is a turnoff now for some black Americans when it comes to conservatives.
Because they go out and they put this story out there and then what do you think people are doing in the responses?
What do you think people are doing in the replies?
It's like the same thing they do.
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It's like, white supremacists are the biggest violent threat in this country.
Might have been CNN too, or maybe it was Planned Parenthood.
Because I think it was in response to Father's Day saying, hey, On the abortion thing, saying, hey, we need to remember that all types of people can get pregnant, too.
And it had like 37 genders that can get pregnant, and I'm thinking, oh, so men can now talk about the abortion issue?
Because the left used to say, hey, if you're a man, you can't talk about the abortion issue, you can't get pregnant.
But now men can get pregnant!
According to the left.
So now men can comment on the abortion issue or is that just another double standard of liberal logic?
Alright.
I want to take your calls on the issue with the vaccine debate.
Do you think Dr. Peter is going to completely Peter out?
How many children has Dr. Peter penetrated with his needles?
And yet he can't have a debate on the effectiveness or potential dangers of those penetrations for one and a half million dollars?
What are your thoughts on that?
I'd like to know.
And where do you think it goes from here?
Because we're going to see this continue.
Liberals and Democrats will not show up for debate.
And it's almost like DeSantis is just... I understand why he doesn't want to debate Newsom.
What's the point?
Newsom isn't even in the race, and DeSantis, I guess, is maybe hoping Trump gets arrested or something, and that's going to catapult him to the top?
I don't know what the strategy is with DeSantis.
But it's like, why would they do this and try to have Newsom and DeSantis in a debate?
Newsom has not even entered the presidential race.
And you know liberals and lefties don't actually want to debate.
The Democrats might cancel their own primaries for a second straight time.
Folks, I'm telling you, political debates, I don't know even how, I mean, you could probably go get the number, but just from somebody that covers news and politics, political debates from, let's just look at something arbitrary, political debates in the last 10 years, let's say from 2014 to 2024, assuming it goes the way it's trended, political debates are down like 50%.
You get like half the political debates you used to, probably even less actually.
From local levels, state levels, to the national level.
They just, we just, Democrats just, we don't even have them.
And Dr. Peter wanted to make sure that you read George Soros' Vice News story about why they need to remove vaccine misinformation off the show.
But why doesn't Dr. Peter just go on the show himself and show the world?
See, I like making liberals look dumb, and it's not that hard.
They are dumb, but they like to jump into the arena.
They want to control your life!
So, but, the point being, why doesn't Dr. Peter just go on Joe Rogan's show and make RFK Jr.
look like an idiot on vaccines?
Come on!
Come on!
But Dr. Peter wants you to know, as both a vaccine scientist and a parent of a daughter with autism, I wrote vaccines did not cause Rachel's autism, which gave me a front row seat to 20 years of anti-vaccine activism, watching it grow into a political enterprise.
Take a couple phone calls before my guest joins me.
And then we'll take some, maybe even with the guests, but then after the guests, we'll be taking them, too.
So if you're on the line and you want to come on, I will get to you.
We start with Sonny in North Carolina.
Sonny, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey.
Hey, Owen.
How you doing?
Good.
Calling up to talk about the military vaccine injury cover-up again.
Just to kind of give you a little bit more information on that.
So I called in about a year ago to report to the veterans of how they can get potentially service-connected for vaccine injuries that they incurred from the VA.
And I spoke to Alex for a moment, and Alex immediately responded with some interesting information involving the anthrax vaccine.
And that kind of stuck in my mind.
Um, because, you know, what, what happened, you know, after that, that debacle, um, you know, was, uh, you know, the VA is to the, you know, presumptive presumptions for a gulf war syndrome.
So fast forward to, uh, the beginning of, um, you know, COVID the AK, uh, came out with a policy and they started saying, Hey, look, uh, you know, we have all these, um, COVID residuals real early on, you know?
Uh, and I, and at the time I was doing a lot of work with, uh, that's medical freedom.
And I said, man, these COVID residuals look a lot like these vaccine injuries we've been looking at at Feds for Medical Freedom.
Well, if you also recall, about the same time that they started rolling out these shots, they started saying, hey, look, you know, we got this PASDAC thing going.
And then they started, you know, saying, hey, we got toxic exposure risk activity.
You know, we're going to dramatically expand Let me try to just cut to the chase here.
Because this is so important, not just on this issue, but to understand this.
This is why false flags exist.
This is why they have forest fires and they light the forest on fire in Canada and then blame it on climate change.
They burned it down themselves.
It's the same thing.
They're always running false flags, red herrings to distract us from what they did and then pose as the hero.
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And the thing is, if you look back on it, so it looks like they got practice on this, and what it insinuates, if you look at them making these policies, is that there's intent.
So they keep on pushing these injections, right, knowing they're going to cause harm.
And so think about the VA and the military as like an integrated health system, right?
So they track everything really well, better than the public sector, better than anything in the United States, right?
And so if they don't have a way to do this, and so what's really interesting You have to look out about this.
In this particular situation, this is why I want to make this clear.
Under this terror policy on the PAC Act, it's under a standard operating procedure that's in effect right now at the VA.
They have it as a deliberative document, okay?
Which means they're not releasing it to the public.
They're using it to process all the veterans' claims.
And people were asking questions, you know, about, hey, now that we have this toxic exposure risk, we can, you know, can these veterans that are claiming vaccine injuries, you know, get Get a nexus medical opinion and potentially get service-connected for these injuries.
And they say, so they come out with a policy statement, right?
Saying, hey, look, there's no scientific or medical evidence that, um, vaccines administered to service members, um, resulted in long-term health effects.
And the sad irony is that the government causes the problem, then tries to set up a solution to the problem.
So CNN is democratic in their They actually caused the problem of out-of-wedlock birth rate in the black community, which was a scheme by the Democrats to take the father out of the home and, quote, get the woman on welfare.
Then they'll have, quote, the N-words, voting Democrat for the next hundred years.
So that was used by the Democrats to cause dependency in government.
And you and I have experience in the inner city, like when I lived next to Newark, New I saw the horrendous damage that the Democrats did to the black community there.
The teachers' union messes up the schools.
Kids come out of high school reading at a sixth grade level.
And almost everyone in the inner city was born out of wedlock.
But in my town in South Orange, right next to the inner city, it was the opposite.
There was mostly two-parent African-American homes.
And it was completely different.
Kids would go to college, black kids, they were not in trouble with the cops.
So that's the scheme.
The Democrats did terrible damage to the black community, and that's one of the biggest reasons that I'm not a Democrat.
And that's the whole reason why there's a million and a half dollars on the table for you to debate, actually, Dr. Peter.
But Alex Rosen joins us now.
That was him holding the camera, filming and talking to Dr. Peter there.
Uh, so, um, I mean, I got a million questions for you about this video.
I guess, uh, you, let's just say you happen to run in on it.
You happen to run into him on the streets there and, uh, you, you had good luck and good timing, but, um, boy, it seemed like he was friendly and he was willing to have a conversation until you asked about the vaccines.
Yeah, he was actually, um, more open to speaking than I thought he would be.
But of course, when you ask about the nitty gritty stuff, He just wanted to go inside.
But yeah, it was impeccable timing because, you know, his address is public info.
I'm not going to say what it is or encourage anybody to go look it up, but it's public info.
And I just said, oh, well, let's just give it a try.
And, you know, if he wasn't home, I wasn't going to wait there.
I mean, I literally waited for probably 30 seconds to a minute.
I mean, it was like the best timing you could have gotten because we just pulled up to him And to his house, and we see his car coming in, and I'm like, oh no freaking way.
So that's why, like, I didn't even have my shoes on when I confronted him.
Like, I was gonna get my shoes on and go knock on his door or something, but yeah, I mean, I just ran out immediately in my socks.
Yeah, I saw that you were barefoot there, and so people that may not understand, I've been on the road with you when you do some of this work.
It really is kind of just, you spend a lot of time in the car, you work through a lot, it's a process that you work through, and then when the moment is there, you just gotta jump to, hop to, and do it.
And so especially considering, I mean, I don't know, again, it's hundreds, maybe you're encroaching on four figures in the predators that you've caught.
So you know how to do this.
You're good at this.
You know how to do your job.
But let me just get this out of the way, because I think it's fair criticism and you've dealt with it.
What do you say to the people that say, hey, we shouldn't be going to people's houses like this?
Even though, again, to me, I mean, that was about as nice as you could be.
You didn't encroach on his Let me just ask you, because there is fair criticism.
What do you say to people saying, hey, we should never go to somebody's house and do this?
So, if you really believe, and I'm not saying you, but just you watching, if you really believe that Peter Hotez has pushed things that harmed a lot of children, harmed society, if you really believe he's responsible for all these lockdowns, for pushing policy that's ruined the lives of so many of our people, then you should have no problem with me confronting him at his home, just like I would a pedophile.
I mean, you know, if you truly believe the things you hear and say about Peter, then he's probably objectively harmed more kids than say somebody i usually confront would and you know the whole thing with conservatives is you know that's why i think the whole controlled opposition thing is a thing because you got people like tim pool tweeting out this is not the way oh so what is the way listening to you podcast so we can put podcast our way back to prosperity no they're full of crap um what the left does is do you know like
do you know any antifa twitter accounts to over 10 000 followers no you don't because they're actually out there they're idiots and crazy but they're out there doing what they feel they need to do getting their agenda pushed meanwhile on twitter uh the Yeah, okay, that's why elementary school kids are learning about what a peepee is, and learning about transgenderism, because all of you idiots are just sitting on Twitter all day, not actually doing anything.
So, to that I say, if you want to see us continue to get walked over, then by all means condemn going to someone's house and shaking their hand, asking a few questions, while Antifa literally freaking firebomb cities.
Well, and let's just, I'm somebody that always looks for logical consistency.
I think if we're looking for purism anywhere, that's the only place where I think maybe you can hope for it to exist.
And so, I understand, I didn't see all the different individuals that might have been criticizing you, but I know Tim Poole has had his address leaked and they swat him all the time.
I do think I saw another individual, I won't say their names, but I think that they've had their address doxxed and they've had to deal with the left going to their house.
I can understand from that front maybe thinking, oh, we don't like people going to people's houses, but I have to say, you know, I have a unique perspective in this because it's happened to me too.
It's happened to me too.
And you know what?
I never, I'm not the one, I'm not going to criticize you.
I don't think you did anything.
And in fact, I know you didn't do anything illegal.
And so as long as you're not doing anything illegal, I don't see that there's any reason to criticize.
You might not like the tactics.
That's fair.
If you don't like Alex Rosen tactics, I think that that's perfectly fair.
But to chastise you and act like there's never an appropriate time for this, I just don't think is fair.
Again, I understand from their perspective when people have shown up at their house, but folks, it's happened to me too.
I'll just leave it at that.
And so I just think as long as you're not breaking the law here, that I think it's fair game.
And, you know, the thing is, it's different going to someone, you know, there's, oh, how would you feel if someone showed up at your house?
Well, yeah, I wouldn't like it.
But the thing is, when our tax dollars go to what Peter Hotez expenditures or whatever, when they go to his agenda, and when he's dictating public policy for basically the whole country, he's basically a de facto public servant because he's using our tax money to go push this crap onto everybody.
So, the way I look at it, it's fair game.
He's beholden to us because we're funding his little experiments, so he needs to be answering to us 24-7.
Now, does that mean, like, go harass him or go threaten him?
No, absolutely not.
But asking him questions when he's outside of his house?
Fair freaking game, because he's beholden to us because our taxpayer dollars go to him and he pushes policy that dictates how we live our lives.
I mean, you know, every all these conservatives on Twitter want to put 1776 in their bio.
OK, but so you have 77 years.
Oh, you're all patriotic.
1776.
But if you ask or one of our leaders a simple question, you just get your panties in a bunch about that and say, oh, we should just leave it on the digital world.
So I I'm just saying, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take it too much.
If anything, just let it, let it put that smile even bigger on your face.
Just let it make the expand, expand your smile from ear to ear because it's all fine.
Again, I understand where they're coming from.
And I think there's another level of this too, of You know, the internet, the territory gained on the internet is so... it's so...
It's so loose.
It's not rigid at all.
And so there's constantly territory being gained and lost and all this stuff.
And I think that people that have found their comfort zone in the studio now, they don't like people gaining territory on them that are actually out in the field.
And I don't even know if they can really understand that on a conscious level.
I think it's just a competitive thing and this is a competitive industry that we're in.
But no, I would say as somebody, it's kind of like the same issue where people talk about there's a deep, deep fake porn issue.
And I understand why people would be upset with that.
But again, it's like, unfortunately, I've had it happen to me.
We had to shut down an entire enterprise we had here because people started doing that.
And it's just like, you know what, though?
I don't know how you make it illegal.
I'm for no government intervention.
So even something that's had to happen.
So it's just like, look, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
You didn't break any laws.
And so I think that needs to be the message here is, yeah, we're not showing up to people's house to engage in criminal activity or violent threats.
We're engaged in perfectly legal, lawful activity in a culture war, in a political battle.
Your video got what was number eight million views.
Well, all I could say is, you know, just looking at the, if that was the first time, if that was my first time watching the video and there's no sound with it, I would think this is one of my homies probably catching a predator, but I'm not saying he's any of that, but like, you know, it's definitely, it's definitely like the little weenie, like the little weenie handshake and like the smile at first and they like suddenly, then the smile suddenly goes down.
Like I've, I've been through that hundreds of times with people who are getting confronted by me, but yeah, no, he's just, I don't know.
He just seems like a regular dude off camera.
Just a regular old little limp.
Like, he seems harmless, but man, oh man, is that dude sinister.
Those are the ones that usually go after the most vulnerable.
And now, you know, the internet, uh, again, I don't, I don't really trust these net worth readings on the internet, but, uh, he claims he's worth like 50 million or so.
I'm sure he does well for himself, but is that a, was his house pretty nice?
I mean, he didn't really get a good shot of it.
That's probably a good thing.
You're keeping his information as private as possible there.
Yeah, I talked to him, but we don't know what his house looks like apparently, but, um, yeah, no, his house was, yeah, it's in a very good neighborhood, um, in Houston and, uh, Yeah, I think it's definitely worth over a million for sure.
You know, I mean, at that point, I mean, the money's not even going to him.
It's going to be a big charitable contribution.
I don't think he cares at that point.
I mean, from what talk about the vibe, what it really seemed like is I just don't think Peter Hotez really cares too much.
I mean, I think he's just totally bought out and sold that.
I mean, I think he just does his thing.
I don't really think he believes what he says.
And yeah, I don't think he'll go on because I mean, because you can tell RFK if you like him, don't like him.
He's very passionate about vaccines.
Peter Hotez seems like he's paid to say what he says, and I don't think he wants to get into a bloodbath with RFK.
It reminds me of playing college football for a year.
Those people that were on scholarship that didn't really like football, they were just there because they had a scholarship, and they didn't really try too hard.
Well, it's either that it's either he's not passionate about it or he knows he's wrong about it.
Either way, it's not good considering the position of influence that he has.
And so a million and a half again, I don't know.
That was the number this morning.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's higher than that at this point.
But he won't even show up.
A million and a half for charity.
And he won't even show up.
To me, that just says, that's like if somebody's running around the World Boxing Federation, let's say in the early 1990s, I'm the toughest boxer on the planet.
Nobody can beat me.
I'll, I'll beat anybody.
I'm the greatest.
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And Mike Tyson says, yeah, I'd like to tell you to do it back to me.
Yeah, so they can't have him go there and just completely expose how the entire thing is a lie, because they would there would be so many eyes on that interview.
There'd be so many eyes on that debate.
It'd just be too big.
They can't have a they can't have RFK Jr., a presidential candidate on the biggest podcast in the world, completely annihilate all the vaccine myth, mythology.
And I guess then their debate, what they're going through is because they got two problems.
One, the longer they keep Biden put up against RFK Jr., The more RFK Jr.
is going to get more air out of that room, and the more he's going to grow in those polls, but also, they realize...
The sooner they throw Newsom into the debate, they're going to have to start destroying Biden.
I mean, that's just how it's going to have to go.
As soon as they put Newsom in there, it's going to be an all out of front attack on Biden.
And then it's like, well, gee, how do they deal with that?
Most popular president ever.
900 bajillion votes.
You know, greatest economy, Jack, everything.
It's like, how are they going to how can they be sitting over here telling you Biden is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but then also giving you the replacement of Biden while he's still in office?
And if there's so much separation in the Republican primary, like if Trump's beating the crap out of DeSantis or vice versa, and it's pretty obvious who's going to win the Republican primary, I'm going to go crossover vote RFK.
Because in Texas, during the primaries, you just walk up and say what party.
In some states, you can only vote party.
In some states, it's a whole ballot.
You can vote for whoever you want.
But yeah, in Texas, you just show up, you ask, do you want to vote Democrat or Republican primary, you can just say Democrat, they give you the Democrat ballot.
I'm thinking the same thing.
I don't think, because you're in Texas, I don't think Trump has a problem in Texas.
So I don't think Trump really misses my vote.
I don't think that really hurts him too much.
I've said this, Trump still has my vote for 2024 presidency, but I think RFK Jr.
is the more important person to support right now.
I 100% agree, because If it's Trump versus Biden, I mean, yeah, Trump was a good president or whatever, but, like, it is a major risk if that falls through.
But if it's Trump versus RFK, I'm not going to be up all night like, oh, who's going to win?
Who's going to win?
I can go to sleep soundly just knowing that the winner will be all right.
You know, I have a feeling that there might be a day here in the near future where you're catching one of these child predators and the address pops up, 1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, and I just wonder what would happen should that be the case.
That would be our first female predator catch because he doesn't know how to use a phone, so it would be one of his aides doing the texting for him, so it would be her.
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All right, folks, this is amazing.
I'm telling you, this is a serious phenomenon that we should all be celebrating happening here.
Oh, it's such a relief.
This is just a beautiful disaster, actually, is what it is.
Joe Rogan having RFK Jr.
on his podcast, being friends with Elon Musk, has led to the biggest I don't know if I would say the biggest domino falling, or maybe it's the biggest window opening, or doorway opening, or gateway opening into the truth about vaccines.
And now it's such a national phenomenon, it's unstoppable.
Unstoppable now.
As if the COVID-19 vaccine lies hadn't done so much damage to the medical establishment, this is going to destroy it, ladies and gentlemen.
And it's actually sad, because now, and it is the American left, I mean, I don't know, it's just a fact.
I don't want to turn this medical issue into a political issue, but let's just be honest about it, it is.
Even though RFK Jr.
comes from the left.
It's the left now attacking him for wanting to have the vaccine debate.
So what is RFK Jr.
gonna have to do when they tell him they're gonna steal the election from him with the superdelegates?
He's gonna have to run as an independent or ask Trump to be his vice.
That would be the real winner, but... No, this has become such a phenomenon.
This debate has taken a storm on Twitter.
Everybody responding to it.
The original video has over 8 million views.
It'll be probably 10 million tomorrow when Alex Rosen goes on the Alex Jones Show, by the way.
They're panicked.
They cannot defend their vaccines.
They cannot defend their vaccine stances.
They cannot do it.
They can't.
They will not show up for the debate.
It doesn't matter if there's a billion dollars on the table.
It doesn't matter.
The vaccine big pharmaceutical industry is a trillion dollar industry annually.
And if you find out they've been lying to you about everything and poisoning you, then there goes their ticket!
1.5 million dollars to go on the Joe Rogan podcast?
Saying, well, why won't they do this with Alex Jones?
Why don't they comment with Alex Jones?
Why don't they do it on the Alex Jones Show?
Folks, Alex Jones is a war general who's been in the trenches for 30 years.
Okay?
Do you know how many people can even come close to relating to that?
Or stand that presence and that energy for very long?
Joe Rogan doesn't get into the trenches of fighting the globalists.
Not many others do, let alone for that long.
So, yeah, you know what?
Mark Cuban and RFK Jr.
and Elon Musk don't want to be publicly seen or related with Alex Jones or on his show because he's the war-hardened, crazy general that's been in the trenches all these years, even though he knows all the ins and outs and has completely proven right and continues to fight it.
It's just, yeah, we don't really want to We don't get that.
Like, yeah, we know he's right, but we don't get wanting to fight it.
So all these people, Mark Cuban, all the other people are responding to Rogan and responding and they're saying, oh my gosh, this is, it's just like, wow.
Wow.
The pro-vaccine crowd is completely panicked at the idea of a debate.
At the idea of a debate.
And they are completely panicked.
And they're calling Joe names and RFK Jr.
names and Alex Rosen names.
Joe Rogan names.
And they're saying, oh, well, why would you?
Debating Dr. Hotez doesn't make any sense.
Like Mark Cuban here saying, debating Dr. Hotez doesn't make any sense.
Debate somebody that actually debates on these issues.
Oh, he's just the guy that goes on every major news channel, every cable news channel, one of the biggest childhood vaccine influencers in the state of Texas.
You put your life on the line for this information, and for your ideology, and your beliefs, and everything, and just to see the opposition to you completely fall apart with any challenge.
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Oh!
Oh!
And Mehdi Hassan just tweeted out a hit piece on Alex Jones.
You know, I just hope that Joe Rogan sees what he's done here.
Unintentionally, I believe.
He just is a big subject and makes sense.
But I hope he understands the Pandora's box that he's opened.
He should bring on like Mark Moreno from the Climate Depot to expose the lies about climate change and have the left respond saying, oh, my gosh, look at this misinformation, and then say, really, let's debate.
He should have Elon Musk back on to talk about why trans kid surgery should be illegal and anybody that promotes it should go to jail.
And then have the left say, you can't say that, that's wrong!
And Joe Rogan say, come on and debate it.
You can play this game all day long.
And now they've taken the first bait.
They couldn't help themselves.
See, Joe Rogan's show is too big.
If they could have wiped Joe Rogan off of Spotify, kind of like with Alex Jones, when they took Alex Jones off of YouTube, everywhere else, we still have a big audience, but they thought, hey, this is it, he's out of the public forum, so whatever he's talking about, the guests, the news, like, we just ignore that, it doesn't get into our purview, not in our consciousness, not our problem anymore.
Rogan is everywhere, they can't censor him, they can't get a show off the air, still the biggest show.
So, when they do this on the Rogan Show, they have to respond.
We're going to cover more of this tomorrow.
I'm telling you folks, this is just, this is huge.
The Titanic has hit the iceberg.
It's taken on water.
The entire leftist establishment, the entire corporate world government is sinking.
It's as good as sunk.
And so all you see, that's just why Peter Hotez, he's making the fatal mistake.
He's going to stay on that ship.
Get off the ship now, Peter.
Get off the ship now, Peter!
We know the vaccines cause autism!
We know the COVID-19 vaccines killed hundreds of thousands of people!
See, we're supposed to sit here and take this like, oh, you need to, you know, you gotta be nice and you gotta have common courtesy and you gotta have decorum and oh my gosh.
See, and that's the issue of, it's an intellectual debate you might have, but you can never just lump the kids into that.
That's the problem.
The kids are innocence, they don't deserve it.
But that's been the globalist's big mistake.
Intellectually, they feel that they're in the right, and maybe they are.
Most humans are worthless eaters as they see them.
They're stupid.
They're lazy.
They don't do anything.
They don't add anything.
They don't even try to.
And so, just mop them up.
Just get rid of them.
Survival of the fittest is how the globalists would argue it.
But see, when you're talking about an adult that makes a decision that makes you feel that way, that's another thing than an innocent child that you're dooming to Oppression and slavery.
That's a totally different thing.
Thanks for the call, Jason.
Let's go to Richard in California.
Richard, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Hey, thank you, Owen.
Thank you for taking my call.
And thank you for answering the call to, you know, step up.
Because a lot of people hear the call, but few people answer the call.
And thank you.
An idea for an Alex Jones shirt.
Next one.
The front of it should say, I hate Alex Jones.
And the back of it needs to say, obedience is what gives tyrants their power.
And you know, with vaccines, I met my wife in like 2014 and I was just newly woken up watching the Alex Jones Show and I kind of bullied her into not vaccinating my child, our child.
And, you know, she was a liberal and we connected on the Gary Webb book.
And I knew that she had it within her to research it, and I kind of bullied her into researching it.
And she figured out, well, hey, maybe we should take a look at not vaccinating our daughter.
And then flash forward five years later, the COVID thing, if we would have vaccinated our daughter, we would have had to send her to school with a mask for two years and just totally screwed her up.
So we're all vindicated.
And now this RFK thing can show her mom that, you know, why we made that decision.
Because he lays it out so perfectly and beautifully.
This is so big because, look, they can't lie and destroy everybody.
They just can't.
And Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and RFK Jr.
have too much of a pedigree and too much respect and are too popular for them to destroy.
And so they're kind of weighing the options like, well, do we do a full destruction of them like we did of Alex Jones?
Uh, or would there be, would that just be too much and that would damage us too much in the end?
I think they've realized that the latter is the case.
And so they kind of have to let them out there now, but I'm telling you folks, this vaccine thing is huge.
It's, it's, it's one of their major, it's one of their biggest population control agendas.
It's one of their biggest cash cows.
And I'm telling you, like they say, Oh, the, the average person will see, Oh, $1.5 million.
Why won't he show up?
Because the, the, the lies.
Hey Richard, thanks for the call.
I gotta jump, take a couple more.
Let's go to Corbin in Idaho.
Corbin, you're on the air, go ahead.
unidentified
Hi there, Owen.
Howdy.
Today, I wanted to call today, I kinda wanted to share a story about, you know, whenever I first really, like, At the beginning, coronavirus, you know, it was, there's a lot of questions.
Nobody really understood.
They didn't really do a lot.
Well, I work underground in the mine.
And so we fly in, we work two weeks on, two weeks off.
We fly in and we'd have to take a couple of days and they would do a COVID test on us to see if we were fit to go to work.
Right.
And well, one of my buddies, he was flying in and well, he had to cancel it.
He had a family emergency, so he ended up not even going to his appointment.
Well, a few days later at his house, He gets a letter saying that he had tested positive for the coronavirus.
And so, I think a lot of this information that these guys are, the doctors, you know, they're getting, whoever they're getting taught by, and the lessons, the plans, or whatever, it's coming from, you know, the top of... Well, I mean, if you put your detective hat on, this one seems pretty obvious.
Whether he showed up or didn't show up, he was testing positive for COVID and they were sending that letter out.
unidentified
Exactly.
And so when he called the doctor's office, because he has it hanging up in his house right now, because it's so funny to him, but so he called the doctor's office to find out what's going on.
Well, they ship it out.
They ship them out to a third party and the third party is the one who tests them.
They're not even getting tested in the doctor's office.
That's kind of standard protocol, but so it's, but again, so that tells you that, I mean, the third party didn't even have his test, but they said it was scheduled, so they already had planned to send it out positive.
I don't know.
That's, that bears a little investigation.
I don't think that they even, I think that they've been brainwashed and doctorated by whoever they're getting taught by for so long that they don't even have the, they don't even have the capacity to question No, actually, you're totally right, and I'm not the medical professional that can give you the keyhole view into this, but most of that stuff is outsourced.
Most of that stuff gets outsourced from the hospitals, and so you're right.
Hey, this was a heck of a circle jerk that you had there earlier with Alex Rosen, and I think your boss is going to be so happy that you are getting him lined up to catch another case for harassment against people that are going to be going out to barack protest.
And just for all of you Alex Jones viewers out there, if you go trolling through the archives, you'll see back in 2021 when I called into the show and convinced Alex that he actually should be looking into Hotez and that Hotez had the best information and Alex Jones was just happy as a pig and shit.
Alex just came on your show and said that this man addresses public information and has posted a video going to this man's house and showing that the man is at his house.
This is just like Elon Musk getting so pissed about people posting the location of his plane.
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