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June 18, 2023 - Sunday Night Live - Chase Geiser

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America Is The Titanic Ready To Smash Into The Vaccine Debate Iceberg — FULL Sunday Night Live 6/18/23

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unidentified		- Well, ladies and gentlemen, I got hit with a bit of a, the wind knocked out of me, let's say.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I was like, "Oh, I'm a little bit of a little bit." I was like, "Oh, I'm a little bit."
		I got the intellectual wind knocked out of me before we go on air.
		I mean, literally minutes before we go on air because we're getting ready to cover a big story and take your calls on it.
		And I'm just walking around and, you know, getting a glass of water and everything.
		Just get, you know, preparing for what I'm going to say when I come on air.
		And I had an idea.
		And I had a concept in my head about how America is encroaching an iceberg.
		It's about to hit the Titanic.
		We can all see it coming.
		And in this one instance, I'm talking about the debate when it comes to vaccines and their effectiveness, or are they causing autism or other side effects?
		And there's a huge, huge story developing around that right now.
		But that's just like one cut of the iceberg.
		That's just one jagged edge of the iceberg.
		The entire iceberg is debate.
		And then it has all these different jags coming out, where it's like political debate, policy debate, border debate, health debate, vaccine debate, and it's all these things.
		And America is the Titanic, getting ready to just smash into that rock.
		Or iceberg, rather.
		So I'm going to explain that, but You just, you look, you look at the creatures.
		I mean, genuinely, these are creatures.
		When they do movies, to be dramatic, they make the bad guys, the creatures, look evil.
		They go above and beyond, they want them to have that evil look, that evil aura.
unidentified		There's something there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		God, the divine creator of all this, Put the little clues out there.
		Let you know, just a little.
		There's the metaphysical warning, there's the energy, there's the vibes, there's the aura, and then there's the look.
		And you look at these people, whether it's Jack Smith going after Donald Trump, you know, he's got a look.
		Really, you know, Alex Jones said it was Oliver Darcy that looked like a possum that just crawled out the behind of a rotting carcass.
		Actually, that's kind of the Jack Smith look, really.
		But, but... Then there's doctor, or professor, Peter Hotez.
		Pediatrician.
		I mean, pediatrician.
		And it's just like, they all have that look.
unidentified		What is that look?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm sure he's a nice guy.
		I'm sure he's a nice guy.
		But here's the debate, and there's multiple angles to this, and I'm glad we're having it.
		But Alex Rosen from Predator Poachers, a man who captures pedophiles, exposes pedophiles for a living, went after, wrong terms, but confronted peacefully, Dr. Professor Peter Hotez about a challenge
		That has been laid down, the gauntlet, the pot, by the way, is over one and a half million dollars for that, for this guy, caught by Predator Poacher's host Alex Rosen, coming on with me at seven o'clock, the guy that busts pedophiles for a living, asks Dr. Professor Peter Hotez if he's going to take a million and a half dollar offer for charity to debate his stance on vaccines, and Hotez won't do it!
		Won't do it.
unidentified		He's got that look, though.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		He's got that look of a coward.
unidentified		Of a punk.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But he's a pediatrician.
unidentified		Okay?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		He's a pediatrician.
		And I wonder how many vaccines Dr. Hotez has put into children.
		What's the average day, do you think, for Dr. Peter Hotez?
		What do you think he does on an average day?
		As a pediatrician.
unidentified		Yeah, line them on up.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is mad scientist written.
unidentified		You take your kid to the doctor, you see that.
unidentified		Amen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		With a needle?
		I'm sure you're feeling real good.
		Really comfortable.
		It's a nice bow tie.
		You know?
		It's a nice bow tie with the waspy glasses, too.
		No, I'm sure Dr. Hotez is a fine gentleman.
		A fine pediatrician.
		But why won't he take the 1.5 million dollars?
		It's actually 1.52.
		And that was, as of this morning, my guess is this pot has increased.
		Since then.
		To charity, mind you.
		It could go to a children's hospital.
		It could go to the hospital that Professor Dr. Peter Hotez works at.
		He could really fix it up nice for those kids.
		But he won't have the debate.
		How many vaccines has Dr. Peter, Professor Hotez, Professor Peter, Dr. Peter, How many children has Dr. Peter put his vaccine into?
		A hundred?
		A thousand?
		Or zero?
		I mean, if it's zero and he doesn't want to defend his stance on vaccines, then that's fine.
		He's not putting vaccines into children.
		He's got an opinion on them and he doesn't need to back it up as a doctor.
		He's not actually practicing.
		Maybe even if he is promoting it, we'll play a clip.
		Is he promoting it, by the way?
		Maybe he's not so sure.
		But if he is vaccinating children, I'd like to know how many children has Dr. Peter vaccinated
		But you'd think if it's one, if it's one, he would be willing to have the debate and back up why he injected a child, why he put a needle and penetrated a child with a needle if he didn't actually believe it or couldn't tell you why it was a good thing.
		So this is just, we're just zooming in on this little area of the iceberg that we're hitting here.
		And let me just jump to the next one, or jump on top of it, out of the water, exposed, and explain to you what's really going on, and then get back to this issue.
		We haven't had genuine debate in this country for probably about 10 years, I would say.
		About 10 years.
		And I look at what I was able to do, In 2014 and 15 and then mostly in 2016 and 17, going out on the streets and really just going face-to-face, engaging the left, engaging the liberals, and forcing them to debate me.
		And I would even say that this created an entire genre of content now that a bunch of people are repeating, and that's you go out and you try to find these leftists, the Trump haters, the pro-abortion crowd, the anti-gun crowd, whatever it is, and you just put a mic in their face and say, what are your views?
		And you realize they don't even know!
		They don't even have views!
		And then you can see how programmed they are And you know every response that they're going to make.
		So then you can just set them up for failure.
		You can just walk them right off their own political, philosophical, logical ledge.
		You just walk them right off of it.
		Now of course, I can't even go out and get that content anymore just because of all the violent threats and the violence and the assaults that I have to deal with and I never get any charges pressed.
		Unfortunately, I'm about 1 for 20 in that department.
		So that's fine.
		But you see, the whole reason why that was popular is because it forced liberals and leftists to defend their ideology in real time and they could not do it and they've never been able to do it Thank you.
		But see, they've never been so passionate and emboldened about their stances now.
		And so when you go out, And you've got these people hootin' and hollerin' over these stances that they got just force-fed to them by the mainstream media, total propaganda, and they're hootin' and they're hollerin' and they're poundin' their fists, and I mean, folks, I've seen crazy stuff.
		The outfits, I've seen it all.
		And they don't even know why they're out there.
		I've gone to pro-impeach Trump rallies, and none of them know why he's being impeached.
		So I'm getting off onto a jag here, but the point is, the lack of debate in this country, it's, it's, it's out of time, folks.
		The clock is hitting zero.
		But now that the clock's hitting zero, we're realizing what's actually going on.
		We're realizing who's not willing and able to debate.
		So this one is easy to call.
		On the vaccine issues, it's the pro-vaccine Professor Dr. Peter, who doesn't want to debate RFK Jr.
		Even though over a million and a half dollars has been raised to give to charity of Dr. Peter's choice, all he has to do is show up for a debate on the Rogan Podcast with RFK Jr.
unidentified		That's it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's all he has to do.
		And he won't do it.
		Joe Biden wouldn't debate Donald Trump.
		Where do you see political debate happening in this country?
		We don't even try anymore, but we used to try to invite liberals on the show all the time, just as a matter of journalistic integrity and doing the job of it, because I remember when I was When I was just getting started in media, I was always trying to land big guests for the show hosts and stuff.
		And they'd say, hey, try to get that guest.
		Even though it was like a long shot, I'd still send out an email.
		Just so you say, hey, we did it.
		We reached out.
		Sometimes you might land one.
		But no, we reached out to all the Media Matters people, Right Wing Watch.
		I became friends with a couple of these people, actually.
		And then they would still, like, write stuff about me.
		It's like, dude, you know me now.
		You know it's not true.
		It's like, well, it was my job.
unidentified		Okay.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But won't come on air and debate me.
		Watches every show, writes stories about me, lies about me, won't come on air and debate me.
		So, the left, and that's what it is, hasn't showed up to the debate stage for some time now.
		They used COVID as the excuse to cancel debates since 2020.
		They're going to cancel debates already heading into the 2024 presidential election.
		The left, politically the left, will not show up to the debate stage.
		They are not willing and they are not able.
		They know their logic has failed them.
		They know their worldview is false.
		They know their political philosophies are destructive.
		They cannot show up.
		But see, thanks to this angle with the vaccines now, it's all going to be exposed.
		Because now you're gonna have people that just realize, I can bet my farm, I can bet my house, I can bet my left testicle that this liberal's not gonna show up for a debate, and you're feeling fine, you're not gonna have to lop your balls off, like a liberal's child.
		Like, yeah, I bet my right nut, I bet my right nut that Dr. Peter won't show up to debate me on vaccines, and Dr. Peter, oh, I'm not gonna show up for that debate, ha, I knew that!
		Yeah, Joe Rogan here, let me go through the list.
		But let me finalize the point.
		So we're about to see right now, this is gonna be so huge.
		And thank God for RFK Jr.
		And Joe Rogan and everybody else making a big fuss of this.
		And Elon Musk as well.
		Elon should just say, I'll donate $10 billion if he has this debate.
		He's not gonna do it.
		I mean, just show the world what cowards the medical establishment really are.
		Show what frauds and cowards they really are.
		They won't debate their stance.
unidentified		Oh, RFK Jr., he's a conspiracy theorist.
unidentified		He's an anti-vaccine nutjob.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
		Why don't you debate him?
		Show him.
		Show the world how he's a nutjob.
		Show the world how RFK Jr.
		is a nutjob.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Show the world how RFK Jr.' 's research and stance on vaccines are, is wrong, Dr. Peter.
		Won't do it.
		So it's all, so this is going to become a huge phenomenon.
		And we kind of already just like, they got us.
		They tricked us on this.
		They tied our shoelaces together and we fell down.
		And then they said, see, no debates now.
		With the whole COVID thing.
		But it's back.
		It's back.
		This is going to raise the conversation.
		People are going to say, why don't we have debates happening anymore?
		Why are people not willing to debate?
		We have all these people begging for a debate.
		Let's get it on the table.
		Who's not showing up?
		Who doesn't want to have the debate?
		And I can tell you, every single group, politically, that's not going to show up for the debate, will not be willing and able to show up to the debate.
		The pro-diversity crowd.
		The pro-abortion crowd.
		The anti-gun lobby.
		The pro-vaccine crowd.
		The pro-public education... Department of Education crowd.
		I mean, there's five just right off the bat.
		Just guaranteed.
		A Democrat voter!
		Your average Democrat voter cannot debate policy.
		So political policy.
		Leftist wonks.
		Leftist political wonks.
		These are all the groups that will refuse to have a debate.
		They always want to be the only ones at the table.
		And they always want to have the most power, the most control.
		They want control over your life.
		How about the climate change crowd?
		And notice how all these crowds I'm talking about, they're the ones that want control over your life.
		The anti-gun lobby wants control over your life.
		The climate change cult wants control over your life.
		The pro-vaccine medical establishment cult wants control over your life.
		Those are three groups of people that want control over your life, but they're not willing to show up and debate the ideologies and the policies that they want to implicate your future with.
		So what does that tell you?
		They're frauds, they're phonies, they're cowards, they're tyrants, they're totalitarians, they're authoritarians.
		So, I mean, the pot as of this morning, and guys, just see if there is an update to this on the Chief Nerd's Twitter account.
		This was this morning at 8 a.m., it is now after 6 p.m.
		here in Austin, Texas.
		You've got... Let's go down the list.
		I don't even think this is all of them, but it might be.
		You've got Cobra Tate, Nick Magali, Bill Ackman, Joe Rogan, Patrick Bett David, Steve Kirsch, Richard M.D., Tim Cass, Tim Pool, Jason Howerton, Real PDB, Dr. Syed Haider, And, uh, a bunch of other, just, just Twitter names there.
		I'm not, I'm not sure what the actual name is, so I'm not just gonna read these weird Twitter names out.
		But, up over one and a half million dollars.
		I guess I should give you a little bit of the background here.
		RFK goes on the Joe Rogan Podcast.
		And, I guess they published that, I think it was Thursday, it was this week.
		And, Rogan and RFK Jr.
		and then Elon Musk gets involved on Twitter are blowing up the clips and blowing up the story specifically on COVID vaccines and the deaths caused and the rise of autism with the rise of vaccines.
		And so, Hotez did what all leftists thought they can do and that's come in, try to create a false narrative, Do a fake fact check, censor silence the opposition, and then get away without any pushback at all.
		That's what the left wants and expects.
		They want to be able to completely control the conversation and the narrative with no pushback whatsoever.
		That's why they're mad that Joe Rogan is not controlled.
		That's why they're mad that Alex Jones is not controlled.
		Tucker Carlson.
		RFK Jr.
		The list goes on.
		And so, Hotez thought he could just respond to the video clips, respond to the podcast, respond to RFK Jr.
	and Elon Musk talking about this, making it a huge issue on Twitter, and then just not have any backlash and not be forced to defend what he's saying in a debate arena.
	Oops, oops, oops.
	I think a million and a half raised in 24 hours is a pretty good barometer on how thirsty this country is, this world is, for debate.
	Because you see, we're sick of being forced into these policies that have failed us at every turn.
	That much is obvious.
	They won't even debate that.
	See, that's what I've learned is, they're so afraid of the debate stage now, folks, because they can't, they won't even be honest about what woman is!
unidentified		They can't even commit to telling you what a woman is!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You think this fruitcake is gonna be able to defend his stance on vaccines?
		They can't even tell you what a woman is!
		They think men can get pregnant!
		Big government!
		Anti-establishment!
unidentified		They don't know what they are anymore!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So of course they can't show up to the debate.
		I think this is just the beginning of this trend.
		I have a feeling that this is going to happen multiple times.
		What a coward!
		At this point, if you're Dr. Peter, and you don't show up to the debate, not only have you lost the debate, If you showed up, you'd at least look like you have a backbone, and maybe you believe you've had vindication over the years.
		If you don't show up to this debate, then that just shows that you have no confidence, and that you know that Rogan and Musk, and more importantly, RFK Jr., are right.
		They're right.
		And you know they're right.
		And that's why you can't show up to debate them.
		Now, let's go ahead and play a clip now, a little compilation of Dr. Peter and...
		Anti-vaccine, pro-vaccine, maybe he's not so sure himself.
		Look at this compilation of his television interviews on COVID vaccines.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		One of the things that we're not hearing a lot about is the unique potential safety problem of coronavirus vaccines.
unidentified		And then, something changed.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Any vaccine released by emergency use authorization by the FDA is an outstanding vaccine.
unidentified		J&J's vaccine has a risk of life-threatening blood clots.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		When you hear the beep, that's the sound of safety.
		So don't overthink it.
		They're both really good.
		They're all really good vaccines.
		Get vaccinated now.
		You gotta call now.
		If you wait, it's gonna be really too late to protect your child.
unidentified		If this was your child, what happens next could make it the worst day of your life.
unidentified		So even though COVID poses zero threat to healthy children.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Vaccinate your children.
unidentified		Do the right thing.
unidentified		Be safe and not sorry.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		I'm strongly recommending for adolescents to get their two doses of vaccine fully immunized after those two doses.
unidentified		Advanced technology that can help save lives.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be a long lasting vaccine.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		A long lasting vaccine.
unidentified		A few moments later.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		We're seeing that two doses is not holding up well for emergency room visits.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		It's not holding up well for hospitalizations.
unidentified		We got a guest!
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Everyone's going to need a booster.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		You need that third immunization.
unidentified		Triple the amount!
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Get that third immunization.
		The two mRNA vaccines were always a three-dose vaccine.
		The two mRNA vaccines were always a three-dose vaccine.
		I've always said this is a three-dose vaccine.
		I've always said this is a three-dose vaccine.
		This is a three-dose vaccine.
unidentified		But I'm not done yet!
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		That third immunization.
		The problem is, it's not holding up.
		So, we may have to look at sort of innovative solutions.
unidentified		Oh God, not this again.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		But I'm still not done!
		Unfortunately, the numbers are starting to trend up again.
		So the hospitalizations are up.
		- Just to consider some out of the box things.
		A fourth immunization.
unidentified		- Fourth?
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		- A fourth immunization.
		- Get that second boost.
		- A second boost to keep the country going.
		I've made that recommendation, a fourth immunization.
unidentified		- But I'm still not done.
unidentified		- One semester later.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		- Unfortunately, the numbers are starting to trend up again.
		So the hospitalizations are up.
		And so the most important message that I have this morning is get your new bivalent booster.
unidentified		- Willie and Elise were saying they got their booster and I was like, oh, I need to get mine.
		And then I found out they were talking about the third shot.
		And is that the bivalent or is it the fourth booster or does it matter?
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry so much about the number.
		There's no wrong way to use it.
		You have to get it.
		This new bivalent booster.
unidentified		You can double or triple stack them.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		The new bivalent one is doing a much better job.
unidentified		You have to get a booster.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		You need to get this new bivalent booster.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		That bivalent booster for COVID.
unidentified		But does everyone ages 12 and older need a booster?
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		The answer is yes.
		And by the way, if you're over 50 and have gotten two boosters, and more than two to four months out, you're gonna need a third booster as well, a fifth immunization.
		Five!
		I don't think we're gonna need an annual booster like flu.
unidentified		Eventually.
		Dr. Hotez supports yearly boosters, just like flu.
		But I'm still not done!
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		It looks as though the boosters are not holding up quite as well as we'd like.
		And I think our thinking is going to change and that what's going to happen is every, you know, few months, we may need another booster.
		Perfect results each and every time!
		You know, we just could not overcome that massive disinformation campaign.
		These fake concepts of herd immunity and discrediting masks.
unidentified		Dr. Hotez, you are a national treasure.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		It is picking off young people like we've never seen.
unidentified		Dr. Peter Hotez, that was extremely informative.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Disinformation that you're hearing that kids are fine, it's nonsense.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Kids need to get that vaccination.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You healthcare workers have been our saviors.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Watch out for that misinformation.
unidentified		Dr. Peter Hotez is probably one of the smartest people on this topic.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		If you haven't gotten your five and ups vaccinated yet, now's the time to do that.
unidentified		Dr. Peter Hotez, thank you for saving the world.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		We also support giving that third immunization for the 12 to 17 year olds.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		People have to feel safe.
unidentified		Dr. Hotez, you are a voice of reason.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Take down the fake information.
		These fake concepts of herd immunity.
		My first hope is to vaccinate our way through this.
		Make certain that everybody's vaccinated, including their kids.
		That's the single most important thing right now the American people have to do.
unidentified		Dr. Peter Hotez was the person that we'd like to go to for this sort of expertise.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		The single most impactful thing you can do is make certain that you're fully boosted and preferably too boosted.
unidentified		Lucky Pox is a global emergency.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		And it's accelerating among a specific social network of men who have sex with men, not because it's sexually transmitted.
unidentified		Monkeypox is sexually transmitted.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Almost exclusively.
willie geist ▲ ● ▼		Before we let you go, we have to stop and applaud you because a lot of MSNBC viewers have watched you constantly for the last three years or so.
willie geist ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they fully appreciate what you have done.
unidentified		One of the things that we're not hearing a lot about Somebody make sure Dr. Peter's dog doesn't have monkey box.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, but play the beginning of that.
		First of all, that was hilarious from Racket.News.
		Well done.
		But I want you guys to just play the beginning of that one more time.
		And let's just see here.
		I'm the professor now.
		Not Professor Peter.
		But I'm the professor now.
		Let's see how well the class has learned.
		What changed between March 2020, when Dr. Hotez said, be afraid of the COVID-19 vaccines, to March 2021, when he said they're the best ever, take infinite COVID-19 vaccines?
		What changed class?
		See if you've been paying attention.
		But guys, play March 2020, Dr. Peter, one more time.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		One of the things that we're not hearing a lot about is the unique potential safety problem of coronavirus vaccines.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And then, something changed.
		So there you go.
		And he's with, put that back on the screen in front of it so I can correctly identify that Dr. Peter Hotez is with the Texas Children's Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.
		He's the co-director.
		How many children have been vaccinated Under Dr. Peter's watch, but he's not willing to go on the Rogan Podcast and defend his stance on vaccines.
		Okay, so what was the difference between March 2020 and March 2021?
		The President of the United States went from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.
		And so in Dr. Peter's defense, he was just reading off the Democrat Party sheet music.
		He was just singing the Democrat Party sheet music because Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, everybody else said the COVID-19 vaccine is bad, they called it the Trump vaccine, and they told you not to get it, it could potentially be deadly.
		And then as soon as Joe Biden got into the White House, they changed the sheet music and they said COVID-19 vaccine great, Joe Biden saved your life.
		Now the vaccines didn't change, the ingredients didn't change, the manufacturers didn't change, the only thing that changed was the President of the United States.
		Unless, of course, I'm wrong and Dr. Peter will explain something different when he goes on the Rogan Podcast to debate RFK Jr., but $1.5 million says he ain't gonna do it.
		Alright, we're back here live.
		It's InfoWars Sunday Night Live.
		By the way, happy Father's Day to all the fathers tuned in on this June 18th edition of InfoWars Sunday Night Live, the Father's Day edition.
		CNN went out and soiled themselves.
unidentified		Oh boy, I'll tell ya.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		CNN.
		Something in the water over there.
		This is a real headline from CNN today.
unidentified		What you need to know about black dads.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Black dads are more likely to play, dress, and share a meal with their child.
		Data shows.
		Black fathers are often portrayed as absent or distant, but that isn't what most people experience according to both data and black dads themselves.
		Such bias portrayals are often based on who is telling the story.
		Ah, who's telling the story.
		You know, the fact that they had to make Father's Day about race really shows you something about them.
		But, What's actually sad about this is all they're doing is poking at the scars and the wounds that they want to keep on black culture in this country.
		That's all it is.
		They see a black kid with a cut on its leg.
		It's healing up.
		Here comes CNN.
		Here come the Democrats.
		They're going to gouge that wound a little bit.
		They're going to poke it.
		Rip it up a little bit so it's still bleeding and fresh for you to remember.
		And then blame their political opposition.
		Hey, he did that!
		CNN comes up, rips all your wounds that are healing off, and cuts them all back open, and then says, yep, they did that!
		That was them right there!
		Can you believe that?
		Because... And I understand why people get upset.
		And I even understand why this is a turnoff now for some black Americans when it comes to conservatives.
		Because they go out and they put this story out there and then what do you think people are doing in the responses?
		What do you think people are doing in the replies?
		It's like the same thing they do.
unidentified		It's like, white supremacists are the biggest violent threat in this country.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And then what do they do?
		People go out and show the actual FBI crime statistics.
		It's like, hey, we don't want to make this about race, but if you're gonna, here's the facts.
		But I get it.
		And so people are like, hey, I don't want to see all these videos.
		I'm sick and tired of getting on the Internet and seeing videos everywhere of black people beating up white people.
		Let's stop this.
		And it's conservatives doing it.
		And then conservatives are like, OK, fine.
		Well, stop blaming white people for everything.
		I'm not trying to have this debate.
		But see, here's CNN.
		They got to just, you know, always got to just remind you.
		Always got to do the racial division.
		You are sick over there at CNN.
		But how can they even celebrate Father's Day?
		How can they even celebrate Father's Day when I don't even know what a man or a woman is?
		What even is a father?
		Or a mother?
		Those are bigoted phrases from a dying age.
		Mother and father is a bigoted concept from a racist generation.
		And a sexist generation, and a homophobic, transphobic generation!
unidentified		We don't use these terms anymore, CNN!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How dare you!
		Oh, and I love now.
		Might have been CNN too, or maybe it was Planned Parenthood.
		Because I think it was in response to Father's Day saying, hey, On the abortion thing, saying, hey, we need to remember that all types of people can get pregnant, too.
		And it had like 37 genders that can get pregnant, and I'm thinking, oh, so men can now talk about the abortion issue?
		Because the left used to say, hey, if you're a man, you can't talk about the abortion issue, you can't get pregnant.
		But now men can get pregnant!
		According to the left.
		So now men can comment on the abortion issue or is that just another double standard of liberal logic?
		Alright.
		I want to take your calls on the issue with the vaccine debate.
		Do you think Dr. Peter is going to completely Peter out?
		How many children has Dr. Peter penetrated with his needles?
		And yet he can't have a debate on the effectiveness or potential dangers of those penetrations for one and a half million dollars?
		What are your thoughts on that?
		I'd like to know.
		And where do you think it goes from here?
		Because we're going to see this continue.
		Liberals and Democrats will not show up for debate.
		And it's almost like DeSantis is just... I understand why he doesn't want to debate Newsom.
		What's the point?
		Newsom isn't even in the race, and DeSantis, I guess, is maybe hoping Trump gets arrested or something, and that's going to catapult him to the top?
		I don't know what the strategy is with DeSantis.
		But it's like, why would they do this and try to have Newsom and DeSantis in a debate?
		Newsom has not even entered the presidential race.
		And you know liberals and lefties don't actually want to debate.
		The Democrats might cancel their own primaries for a second straight time.
		Folks, I'm telling you, political debates, I don't know even how, I mean, you could probably go get the number, but just from somebody that covers news and politics, political debates from, let's just look at something arbitrary, political debates in the last 10 years, let's say from 2014 to 2024, assuming it goes the way it's trended, political debates are down like 50%.
		You get like half the political debates you used to, probably even less actually.
		From local levels, state levels, to the national level.
		They just, we just, Democrats just, we don't even have them.
		No, we're not doing debates.
		So where do you think this issue goes from here?
		And do you think Dr. Peter shows up?
		I think obviously the answer is no.
		What a coward.
		Another coward and a fraud.
		So the number to call in on that, 877-789-2539.
		at 877-789-2539, 877-789-2539.
unidentified		877-789-2539.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And then we've also got a video journalist who actually, this is an individual that captures pedophiles for his YouTube channel.
		That's the content that he creates.
		I think like hundreds of pedophiles have been caught by him now.
		And he was the one that actually confronted Dr. Peter about the vaccine issue.
		So we'll be playing that for you and Alex Rosen will be joining us on that.
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		I wonder how many, how much, how much money Dr. Hotez gets from them.
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		By the way, Hotez did this to himself.
		Peter did this to himself.
		And of course he shared this article because Vice is all over it.
		How are they even still operating?
		I thought they were... Oh, didn't Soros buy him up?
		That's right.
		Soros bought up Vice, didn't he?
	I think it was Soros.
	I think it was Soros.
	Was it Soros?
	No, George Soros' group did buy Vice.
	So it's still here with headlines like this.
	What would we do without it?
	Spotify has stopped even sort of trying to stem Joe Rogan's vaccine misinformation.
	Stopped even sort of trying?
	But hey, these people, they don't censor anybody!
	They're not pro-censorship!
unidentified		We're not pros, we don't censor!
unidentified		Now get that show off the air!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We're liberal!
		We're tolerant!
		Now get Tucker Carlson off the air!
unidentified		Get Alex Jones off the air!
		Get Joe Rogan off the air!
		Delete their content!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We are tolerant liberals!
		Tucker Carlson?
		Nine!
unidentified		Joe Rogan?
unidentified		Nine!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones?
unidentified		Nine!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And Dr. Peter wanted to make sure that you read George Soros' Vice News story about why they need to remove vaccine misinformation off the show.
		But why doesn't Dr. Peter just go on the show himself and show the world?
		See, I like making liberals look dumb, and it's not that hard.
		They are dumb, but they like to jump into the arena.
		They want to control your life!
		So, but, the point being, why doesn't Dr. Peter just go on Joe Rogan's show and make RFK Jr.
		look like an idiot on vaccines?
		Come on!
		Come on!
		But Dr. Peter wants you to know, as both a vaccine scientist and a parent of a daughter with autism, I wrote vaccines did not cause Rachel's autism, which gave me a front row seat to 20 years of anti-vaccine activism, watching it grow into a political enterprise.
unidentified		What a sick man.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, look, this is a sick person.
		This is truly a sick individual.
		And you can just tell.
		Folks, the vaccines aren't just causing autism.
unidentified		Thank you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They're killing kids.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They're giving you cancer.
unidentified		And, uh... I mean, that's just sick.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's just, this man is really, he's really a sick person.
		Oh yeah, you know, the Nazis came and took my neighbors and my grandma, but yeah, they weren't so bad.
		They were okay, actually.
		I think I'll write a book about how great they were.
		I'm Dr. Peter Hotez.
		Oh, I'm sorry.
		That wasn't the book.
		It was about vaccines, even though his daughter has autism.
		And I've seen these graphs, but this is just some very anecdotal, raw data here.
		From Pelham, who I also think threw money into the pot for the debate.
		Childhood vaccines in 1983, 10 vaccines.
unidentified		2013, 32 vaccines.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		2022, 74 vaccines.
		Autism rates 1983, 1 in 10,000.
		2013, 1 in 88.
		2022, 1 in 36.
		So again, this is just raw data here.
		vaccines, 2022, 74 vaccines.
		Autism rates, 1983, 1 in 10,000. 2013, 1 in 88. 2022, 1 in 36.
		So again, this is just raw data here.
		You plug childhood vaccine rates and autism rates into a line graph generator, and the lines are almost perfectly parallel. - Yeah.
		Now, correlation doesn't necessarily cause causation, or mean causation rather, but see, it also is a major indicator.
		And when you see that, you'll want to dig a little deeper because you got something.
		But no, not pro-vaccine Dr. Peter.
		He doesn't want to look into that.
		He doesn't want to debate that.
		He just writes books about how great the vaccines are.
		And go to all the TV interviews about how great the vaccines are.
		Except when Trump is in office, then the vaccines are bad.
		Remember that.
		Police, all police should die.
		Except on January 6th.
		Then they're really good people and we love them.
		Speaking like a liberal.
		All cops are bad.
		Defund the police.
		But January 6th, damn those cops are heroes.
		We need more of them.
		And we're glad they shot an unarmed woman and killed her.
		Any other day of the year you shoot an unarmed woman and kill her, then all cops are bad and they should die.
		But January 6th, there couldn't have been enough cops shooting those Trump supporters that day.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
		Mm-hmm.
		You don't want to get that COVID vaccine.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That Trump vaccine is going to kill you.
		Oh, Trump's not in office anymore?
		You need that vaccine.
		Biden's going to save your life.
		You need to take five of those vaccines.
		I'm Dr. Peter Hotez.
		I go on national TV and I tell people that vaccine is bad when Trump is president.
		But as soon as Biden's president, I tell them take 10.
unidentified		I'll take 20 of those vaccines, dammit.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Take a couple phone calls before my guest joins me.
		And then we'll take some, maybe even with the guests, but then after the guests, we'll be taking them, too.
		So if you're on the line and you want to come on, I will get to you.
		We start with Sonny in North Carolina.
		Sonny, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey.
		Hey, Owen.
		How you doing?
		Good.
		Calling up to talk about the military vaccine injury cover-up again.
		Just to kind of give you a little bit more information on that.
		So I called in about a year ago to report to the veterans of how they can get potentially service-connected for vaccine injuries that they incurred from the VA.
		And I spoke to Alex for a moment, and Alex immediately responded with some interesting information involving the anthrax vaccine.
		And that kind of stuck in my mind.
		Um, because, you know, what, what happened, you know, after that, that debacle, um, you know, was, uh, you know, the VA is to the, you know, presumptive presumptions for a gulf war syndrome.
		So fast forward to, uh, the beginning of, um, you know, COVID the AK, uh, came out with a policy and they started saying, Hey, look, uh, you know, we have all these, um, COVID residuals real early on, you know?
		Uh, and I, and at the time I was doing a lot of work with, uh, that's medical freedom.
		And I said, man, these COVID residuals look a lot like these vaccine injuries we've been looking at at Feds for Medical Freedom.
		Well, if you also recall, about the same time that they started rolling out these shots, they started saying, hey, look, you know, we got this PASDAC thing going.
		And then they started, you know, saying, hey, we got toxic exposure risk activity.
		You know, we're going to dramatically expand Let me try to just cut to the chase here.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Are you insinuating that they were making up these other potentials for injury to cover up the vaccine injuries?
unidentified		Yes.
		Oh, yeah.
		No, listen.
		So make it real simple.
		They're actually setting up the incentives, OK, for the vaccine injuries to be consumed by other by other like toxic exposures, burn pits.
		hits, whatnot, right?
		They're creating incentives to do that.
		And it goes back a long way.
		Like I said, you can look at my Twitter.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		See, that's amazing that you call in about this.
		Oh, my gosh.
		Because this is so important, not just on this issue, but to understand this.
		This is why false flags exist.
		This is why they have forest fires and they light the forest on fire in Canada and then blame it on climate change.
		They burned it down themselves.
		It's the same thing.
		They're always running false flags, red herrings to distract us from what they did and then pose as the hero.
unidentified		And the thing is, if you look back on it, so it looks like they got practice on this, and what it insinuates, if you look at them making these policies, is that there's intent.
		So they keep on pushing these injections, right, knowing they're going to cause harm.
		And so think about the VA and the military as like an integrated health system, right?
		So they track everything really well, better than the public sector, better than anything in the United States, right?
		And so if they don't have a way to do this, and so what's really interesting You have to look out about this.
		In this particular situation, this is why I want to make this clear.
		Under this terror policy on the PAC Act, it's under a standard operating procedure that's in effect right now at the VA.
		They have it as a deliberative document, okay?
		Which means they're not releasing it to the public.
		They're using it to process all the veterans' claims.
		And people were asking questions, you know, about, hey, now that we have this toxic exposure risk, we can, you know, can these veterans that are claiming vaccine injuries, you know, get Get a nexus medical opinion and potentially get service-connected for these injuries.
		And they say, so they come out with a policy statement, right?
		Saying, hey, look, there's no scientific or medical evidence that, um, vaccines administered to service members, um, resulted in long-term health effects.
		Right?
		And so they're excluding them from that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And so if you, you think about it now, it's all part of the medical industrial complex.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm trying hard to get this out here, because I mean, I've seen, you know, Dr. McCullough come on your show, Dr. Malone.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But think about it, they did the same thing to the general population.
		Sonny, thank you for the call.
		They did the same thing to the general population.
		The COVID-19 vaccines were causing all kinds of heart problems.
		Everybody knew it.
		They knew it before they released it.
		And then it was like...
		I mean, guys, what were some of the headlines they were saying caused heart problems?
		It was just like the crazy stuff.
		They were blaming everything for heart attacks now.
		It was like, oh, you, you blow bubbles on Sunday afternoon with your children.
		It could cause a rising heart attack.
		It's like, oh, walking, taking long walks on the beach could be raising heart attacks.
		It's like all this stuff they said was causing all these heart attacks.
		And it was all after the COVID-19 vaccine.
		I don't remember all the different headlines.
		It was just, whatever, they were blaming every, all these, oh, raising heart attacks is because of everything except the vaccine.
		It's definitely not the vaccine.
		It's everything else.
		You eat red apples, you get a heart problem.
		It's like, what?
		All right, these callers are going to be great.
		So if you are on the line and you want to stick around through the guest, we may take calls with the guest.
		Otherwise, we'll go back to the phone lines.
		In about 30 minutes.
		I do want to hear from Andrew in New Jersey here.
		Oh, look, there's one.
		Video games cause heart problems in children.
		Yeah, only if they get the vaccine, though.
		Let's go to Andrew in New Jersey on CNN race baiting over Father's Day.
		I mean, just everything is a race bait for them now.
		Andrew, go ahead.
andrew in new jersey ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		And the sad irony is that the government causes the problem, then tries to set up a solution to the problem.
		So CNN is democratic in their They actually caused the problem of out-of-wedlock birth rate in the black community, which was a scheme by the Democrats to take the father out of the home and, quote, get the woman on welfare.
		Then they'll have, quote, the N-words, voting Democrat for the next hundred years.
		So that was used by the Democrats to cause dependency in government.
		And you and I have experience in the inner city, like when I lived next to Newark, New I saw the horrendous damage that the Democrats did to the black community there.
		The teachers' union messes up the schools.
		Kids come out of high school reading at a sixth grade level.
		And almost everyone in the inner city was born out of wedlock.
		But in my town in South Orange, right next to the inner city, it was the opposite.
		There was mostly two-parent African-American homes.
		And it was completely different.
		Kids would go to college, black kids, they were not in trouble with the cops.
		So that's the scheme.
		The Democrats did terrible damage to the black community, and that's one of the biggest reasons that I'm not a Democrat.
		And I hate them.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But see, this is the last two callers have just put this.
		As soon as America realizes this, folks, this is what's so key.
		And this is why they need the censorship so bad, the Democrats, because as soon as America realizes this.
		I'm not saying I mean, it's just.
		All the left does.
		Is the Pied Piper tactic.
		That's all the left does, folks.
		They cause the problem, and then they tell you they have the solution, and they blame the problem on their political opposition.
		Every.
		Single.
unidentified		Time.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		This is the entire political operational philosophy of the left.
		Cause the problem, blame the problem on your opposition, claim to be the problem solver to gain more political power.
		This is how the left operates.
		30 seconds until break, Andrew, go ahead.
andrew in new jersey ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, and a white liberal that was a Trump hater, I told him this and he said, well, you can still do great things if you grow up without a father.
		And I was saying, you're missing the point.
		You're a staunch Democrat.
		You're against Trump.
		You caused that problem, and the African-American community knows what Trump has done.
		The Second Chance Act, which reformed drugs.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, that's it exactly.
		Democrats love black people being poor and desperate.
		That's how they get their votes.
		It's sad, but it's true.
		Well, Alex Rosen is the host of Predator Poachers.
		I can't tell you how many child predators he has exposed and had arrested.
		It's in the hundreds, maybe the thousands now, with the work he's been doing over there on his Rumble channel for years now.
		But, recently he caught up with our favorite pediatrician, Dr. Peter Hotez, and here's how this short conversation went.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, are you Peter Hotez?
unidentified		I am.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Nice to meet you.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		Hey.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		So why are you not, like, gonna debate RFK on Joe Rogan's podcast?
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Oh, come on.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's harassing.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just curious.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Nothing hostile, just curious.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		I haven't said anything one way or the other.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are you planning on doing it?
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		You know, he just invited me, so we'll see.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		And I think you should, though.
dr peter hotez ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll give it some thought.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And what do you have to say to people who think they're a vaccine injured?
		Anything for them?
		I mean, do you have anything to say to people that think?
		Do you have anything to say to people?
		Yeah.
		I mean, do you think vaccine injuries are real, Peter?
		Peter, it's just a question.
		Settle the science now.
		On a safari to go vaccinate more kids?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So there you have it.
		Now, this is just hilarious.
		Dr. Peter says, oh, I haven't said anything on that.
unidentified		I haven't said anything either way.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Actually, you have.
		And that's the whole reason why there's a million and a half dollars on the table for you to debate, actually, Dr. Peter.
		But Alex Rosen joins us now.
		That was him holding the camera, filming and talking to Dr. Peter there.
		Uh, so, um, I mean, I got a million questions for you about this video.
		I guess, uh, you, let's just say you happen to run in on it.
		You happen to run into him on the streets there and, uh, you, you had good luck and good timing, but, um, boy, it seemed like he was friendly and he was willing to have a conversation until you asked about the vaccines.
		Is that accurate?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was actually, um, more open to speaking than I thought he would be.
		But of course, when you ask about the nitty gritty stuff, He just wanted to go inside.
		But yeah, it was impeccable timing because, you know, his address is public info.
		I'm not going to say what it is or encourage anybody to go look it up, but it's public info.
		And I just said, oh, well, let's just give it a try.
		And, you know, if he wasn't home, I wasn't going to wait there.
		I mean, I literally waited for probably 30 seconds to a minute.
		I mean, it was like the best timing you could have gotten because we just pulled up to him And to his house, and we see his car coming in, and I'm like, oh no freaking way.
		So that's why, like, I didn't even have my shoes on when I confronted him.
		Like, I was gonna get my shoes on and go knock on his door or something, but yeah, I mean, I just ran out immediately in my socks.
		Like, it was just great timing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I saw that you were barefoot there, and so people that may not understand, I've been on the road with you when you do some of this work.
		It really is kind of just, you spend a lot of time in the car, you work through a lot, it's a process that you work through, and then when the moment is there, you just gotta jump to, hop to, and do it.
		And so especially considering, I mean, I don't know, again, it's hundreds, maybe you're encroaching on four figures in the predators that you've caught.
		So you know how to do this.
		You're good at this.
		You know how to do your job.
		But let me just get this out of the way, because I think it's fair criticism and you've dealt with it.
		What do you say to the people that say, hey, we shouldn't be going to people's houses like this?
		Even though, again, to me, I mean, that was about as nice as you could be.
		You didn't encroach on his Let me just ask you, because there is fair criticism.
		What do you say to people saying, hey, we should never go to somebody's house and do this?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		So, if you really believe, and I'm not saying you, but just you watching, if you really believe that Peter Hotez has pushed things that harmed a lot of children, harmed society, if you really believe he's responsible for all these lockdowns, for pushing policy that's ruined the lives of so many of our people, then you should have no problem with me confronting him at his home, just like I would a pedophile.
		I mean, you know, if you truly believe the things you hear and say about Peter, then he's probably objectively harmed more kids than say somebody i usually confront would and you know the whole thing with conservatives is you know that's why i think the whole controlled opposition thing is a thing because you got people like tim pool tweeting out this is not the way oh so what is the way listening to you podcast so we can put podcast our way back to prosperity no they're full of crap um what the left does is do you know like
		do you know any antifa twitter accounts to over 10 000 followers no you don't because they're actually out there they're idiots and crazy but they're out there doing what they feel they need to do getting their agenda pushed meanwhile on twitter uh the Yeah, okay, that's why elementary school kids are learning about what a peepee is, and learning about transgenderism, because all of you idiots are just sitting on Twitter all day, not actually doing anything.
		So, to that I say, if you want to see us continue to get walked over, then by all means condemn going to someone's house and shaking their hand, asking a few questions, while Antifa literally freaking firebomb cities.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and let's just, I'm somebody that always looks for logical consistency.
		I think if we're looking for purism anywhere, that's the only place where I think maybe you can hope for it to exist.
		And so, I understand, I didn't see all the different individuals that might have been criticizing you, but I know Tim Poole has had his address leaked and they swat him all the time.
		I do think I saw another individual, I won't say their names, but I think that they've had their address doxxed and they've had to deal with the left going to their house.
		I can understand from that front maybe thinking, oh, we don't like people going to people's houses, but I have to say, you know, I have a unique perspective in this because it's happened to me too.
		It's happened to me too.
		And you know what?
		I never, I'm not the one, I'm not going to criticize you.
		I don't think you did anything.
		And in fact, I know you didn't do anything illegal.
		And so as long as you're not doing anything illegal, I don't see that there's any reason to criticize.
		You might not like the tactics.
		That's fair.
		If you don't like Alex Rosen tactics, I think that that's perfectly fair.
		But to chastise you and act like there's never an appropriate time for this, I just don't think is fair.
		Again, I understand from their perspective when people have shown up at their house, but folks, it's happened to me too.
		I'll just leave it at that.
		And so I just think as long as you're not breaking the law here, that I think it's fair game.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it's happened to me as well.
		And, you know, the thing is, it's different going to someone, you know, there's, oh, how would you feel if someone showed up at your house?
		Well, yeah, I wouldn't like it.
		But the thing is, when our tax dollars go to what Peter Hotez expenditures or whatever, when they go to his agenda, and when he's dictating public policy for basically the whole country, he's basically a de facto public servant because he's using our tax money to go push this crap onto everybody.
		So, the way I look at it, it's fair game.
		He's beholden to us because we're funding his little experiments, so he needs to be answering to us 24-7.
		Now, does that mean, like, go harass him or go threaten him?
		No, absolutely not.
		But asking him questions when he's outside of his house?
		Fair freaking game, because he's beholden to us because our taxpayer dollars go to him and he pushes policy that dictates how we live our lives.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and he's the co-director of maybe the biggest childhood vaccine clinic in Texas, which has major influence over vaccines in Texas.
		So, I mean, he has, and I mean, I was asking, I don't know.
		I mean, he's a pediatrician.
		How many children has Dr. Peter penetrated with his needle?
		And yet he's not willing to go on a public forum and defend those actions?
		Could be thousands, it could be millions of babies that have been injected because of his policies and his influence.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's sinister, at the very least.
		He deserves to be questioned like that.
		I mean, you know, every all these conservatives on Twitter want to put 1776 in their bio.
		OK, but so you have 77 years.
		Oh, you're all patriotic.
		1776.
		But if you ask or one of our leaders a simple question, you just get your panties in a bunch about that and say, oh, we should just leave it on the digital world.
		They take over reality.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		OK, well, let me just let me just let me just hit the pause button here a lot, because.
		I would just tell you, I would just ignore it.
		I just wouldn't even respond to it.
		Look, I think it's fair criticism, and that's fine if people want to punch at you.
		I think it's fine.
		I would just say ignore it, let the criticism come, and just keep doing what you're doing, man.
		I mean, the video's got like two million views, I think.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, no, I'm definitely going to keep doing what I'm doing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Guys, guys, pull that up.
		Let me see how many views it has.
		Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		It was just a little bit discouraging to see these patriotic conservatives condemn an interview.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I've been there, man.
		I know how you feel.
		You just have to accept it.
		I kind of had a, actually, I kind of had a bit of a blow up moment on air.
		Cause I realized a while ago, I was like, I was like, damn it.
		It's always gotta be the same people.
		Like it's always got to be the same people that are actually putting boots on the ground and getting the work done.
		And it's even funny 7.5 million views now on that video.
		Oh yeah.
		What a failure.
		Yeah.
		You're such a failure.
		How dare you in a 52nd kind interaction, but you know, it's funny too.
		Cause I say this, I guess, uh, Was that Marissa Hansen screaming in the background from a safe 30-foot distance there?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, she didn't want to get in the nitty-gritty like I did.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But that's what I'm saying, like, even Marissa Hansen, who is like a cupcake, even she puts her boots on the ground.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		No, Marissa's amazing.
		Yeah, exactly.
		She's about it, and that's why I have tons of respect for her.
		But yeah, I mean, If you're, I mean, we, we know, we know who's really not about it.
		Who sits doing podcasts all freaking day.
		And that's why we're losing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So I I'm just saying, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take it too much.
		If anything, just let it, let it put that smile even bigger on your face.
		Just let it make the expand, expand your smile from ear to ear because it's all fine.
		Again, I understand where they're coming from.
		And I think there's another level of this too, of You know, the internet, the territory gained on the internet is so... it's so...
		It's so loose.
		It's not rigid at all.
		And so there's constantly territory being gained and lost and all this stuff.
		And I think that people that have found their comfort zone in the studio now, they don't like people gaining territory on them that are actually out in the field.
		And I don't even know if they can really understand that on a conscious level.
		I think it's just a competitive thing and this is a competitive industry that we're in.
		But no, I would say as somebody, it's kind of like the same issue where people talk about there's a deep, deep fake porn issue.
		And I understand why people would be upset with that.
		But again, it's like, unfortunately, I've had it happen to me.
		We had to shut down an entire enterprise we had here because people started doing that.
		And it's just like, you know what, though?
		I don't know how you make it illegal.
		I'm for no government intervention.
		So even something that's had to happen.
		So it's just like, look, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
		You didn't break any laws.
		And so I think that needs to be the message here is, yeah, we're not showing up to people's house to engage in criminal activity or violent threats.
		We're engaged in perfectly legal, lawful activity in a culture war, in a political battle.
		Your video got what was number eight million views.
		And you showed Dr. Peter Hotez's conspiracy.
		Cowardly face.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
		And yeah, we just gotta understand we're all on the same team here, no matter the methods.
		We gotta be unified like the left is unified with each other.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What was the vibe?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Because you've been around some serious creeps.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean...
		Well, all I could say is, you know, just looking at the, if that was the first time, if that was my first time watching the video and there's no sound with it, I would think this is one of my homies probably catching a predator, but I'm not saying he's any of that, but like, you know, it's definitely, it's definitely like the little weenie, like the little weenie handshake and like the smile at first and they like suddenly, then the smile suddenly goes down.
		Like I've, I've been through that hundreds of times with people who are getting confronted by me, but yeah, no, he's just, I don't know.
		He just seems like a regular dude off camera.
		Just a regular old little limp.
		Like, he seems harmless, but man, oh man, is that dude sinister.
		Like, my gosh.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Those are the ones that usually go after the most vulnerable.
		And now, you know, the internet, uh, again, I don't, I don't really trust these net worth readings on the internet, but, uh, he claims he's worth like 50 million or so.
		I'm sure he does well for himself, but is that a, was his house pretty nice?
		I mean, he didn't really get a good shot of it.
		That's probably a good thing.
		You're keeping his information as private as possible there.
		Is that a nice house?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I talked to him, but we don't know what his house looks like apparently, but, um, yeah, no, his house was, yeah, it's in a very good neighborhood, um, in Houston and, uh, Yeah, I think it's definitely worth over a million for sure.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So he's done well with working with childhood vaccines.
		He's made a nice living for himself.
		He's made a nice lifestyle.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Oh, absolutely.
		Yeah.
		And they were driving a very nice car too.
		That's what I'll say.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Ah, nice cars.
		See, this has every earmark of total phony.
		And this isn't an innocent phony, folks.
		We're talking about children taking injections that this guy is promoting.
		And so, if somebody came up to me and said, wow, I mean, I'm not as rich as Dr. Peter there, but said, wow, you know, You've got a lot of influence.
		Look at you.
		You've got a lot of influence on the internet.
		You've got a nice lifestyle.
		And then they started barking, challenging my ideas.
		Well, I would stand there and I'd say, yeah, I stand by my ideas.
		I've legitimately earned what I've earned.
		I'm legitimate.
		I feel I've been vindicated.
		I've got gumption.
		That's what you would expect from somebody that is successful.
		But this guy is successful and he can't even back up his own beliefs.
		A million and a half dollars to go on the Rogan podcast.
		What are the odds you think he shows up?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		I do not think he's going to show up.
		You know, I mean, at that point, I mean, the money's not even going to him.
		It's going to be a big charitable contribution.
		I don't think he cares at that point.
		I mean, from what talk about the vibe, what it really seemed like is I just don't think Peter Hotez really cares too much.
		I mean, I think he's just totally bought out and sold that.
		I mean, I think he just does his thing.
		I don't really think he believes what he says.
		And yeah, I don't think he'll go on because I mean, because you can tell RFK if you like him, don't like him.
		He's very passionate about vaccines.
		Peter Hotez seems like he's paid to say what he says, and I don't think he wants to get into a bloodbath with RFK.
		It reminds me of playing college football for a year.
		Those people that were on scholarship that didn't really like football, they were just there because they had a scholarship, and they didn't really try too hard.
		That's kind of what Peter Hotez is.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Just liked the campus free food and everything?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's, I mean, he does.
		Yeah.
		He doesn't really care.
		I don't think he's really that passionate about it, but I just think he'll do anything for the dollar.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's either that it's either he's not passionate about it or he knows he's wrong about it.
		Either way, it's not good considering the position of influence that he has.
		And so a million and a half again, I don't know.
		That was the number this morning.
		I wouldn't be surprised if it's higher than that at this point.
		But he won't even show up.
		A million and a half for charity.
		And he won't even show up.
		To me, that just says, that's like if somebody's running around the World Boxing Federation, let's say in the early 1990s, I'm the toughest boxer on the planet.
		Nobody can beat me.
		I'll, I'll beat anybody.
		I'm the greatest.
unidentified		And Mike Tyson says, yeah, I'd like to tell you to do it back to me.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		He's like, Oh no, I'm not fighting you though.
		I'll never fight you.
		No, I'm not going to fight.
		You can have the entire purse, $50 million.
		You can't beat me in the ring.
		I'm not showing up to fight him though.
		I'll beat everybody.
		But I mean, that's what this is like.
		If you did that, you'd be immediately a coward and a fraud and nobody would respect you ever again.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Oh yes.
		Like big, big time, big time.
		I mean, or his handlers are telling him, don't go on the podcast.
		I mean, who knows?
		I mean, I mean, dude, if it was $1.5 million to charity, I'd look like Swiss cheese any day, no matter, no matter what it is.
		Like I'll, I'll freaking do it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But, um, yeah, just show up for the charitable reason.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		I know he's so selfish.
		Well, while he preached to us all during lockdowns, think about others.
		Well, he's not thinking about all the kids that he can save with that charity money or who knows?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he could do anything with that money.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		He could rebuild his own little, uh, Children's Ward or whatever he's got.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		I mean, just think about all the clean needles, Peter.
		Please, just go do the debate.
		We all want to see it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, it's really become a major story, and I don't think it's going to go away anytime soon.
		And I actually think this cascades and more debate challenges.
		I think this is going to be the new thing.
		Once people realize that the left is Never gonna back up its own ideologies.
		This whole thing is... Why is there a million and a half dollars on the table?
		Because they know he's not gonna show up, folks.
		I mean, I'm not saying they won't pay.
		I'm not saying they won't make good on the money.
		They will.
		I'm just saying, they're throwing it down because they know you're not showing up.
		They're putting their money down because they know he's not showing up.
		They're just showing the world, look at how big of a coward this man is.
unidentified		Here's the money on the table.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, the total flex.
		As a matter of fact, I'm putting down $2 million right now.
		I don't have $2 million, but I'm that confident he's not going to show up.
		So the jackpot is now $3.5 million.
unidentified		There it is!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We're breaking news!
		What is it now?
		Three and a half?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I'm just going to print some more money.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		It's actually $4 million now.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You're working for the Fed now.
		So $4 million is all, $4 million.
		All Hotez has to do, all Dr. Peter has to do is show up and debate RFK Jr.
		But you know what?
		I don't know if he has handlers or not, but see, this is the larger issue.
		This isn't just about proving Dr. Peter is a coward and a fraud.
		This is about proving that the entire medical establishment and everything they've told us about vaccines is a fraud.
		That's why he really can't show up.
		It's bigger than just Peter.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, no.
		Yeah, because I've seen so many doctors like responding to him saying, yeah, don't do it, Peter.
		Don't debate a conspiracy theorist.
		Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		Yeah, because once Peter goes down as looking at like a fraud, it's yeah, it is the whole industry.
		I mean, he's basically the he's basically the damn keeping it the whole floodgates from bursting.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so they can't have him go there and just completely expose how the entire thing is a lie, because they would there would be so many eyes on that interview.
		There'd be so many eyes on that debate.
		It'd just be too big.
		They can't have a they can't have RFK Jr., a presidential candidate on the biggest podcast in the world, completely annihilate all the vaccine myth, mythology.
		They can't have that.
		That's worth a trillion dollars.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it would be two birds with one stone, too, I think, because the whole medical establishment goes to poo-poo, and then RFK Jr.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		shoots up in the polls and potentially primaries Joe Biden, calling it right now.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is at this.
		It's kind of already happening.
		I mean, I've seen the polls.
		You know, the polls are the polls.
		Trust the polls.
		Don't trust the polls.
		You know, but I've seen some polls where RFK is actually leading.
		Most polls have Biden still ahead.
		But I mean, honestly, it's you can't look at your own friend circle or whatever and say, oh, well, this is what it looks like, obviously.
		But I mean, I don't know anybody that supports Biden.
		I mean, like I literally don't know anybody.
		I know people that like Marianne Williamson.
		I don't know anybody that likes Biden.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't either.
		I mean, even my leftist brother was saying the other day, like, Oh, I saw my friend with a Biden sticker.
		I told her to take it off her fridge, because Biden sucks.
		Everybody hates that guy.
		I don't see him winning.
		Crap.
unidentified		I mean, winning, let alone making it there.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this guy's been falling.
		This guy's really in a bad place.
		Have you seen some of his stuff recently?
		I mean, he can't even talk anymore.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, he's like praising Queen Elizabeth, right?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he said, God save the Queen.
		Was that before or after he groped Eva Longoria?
		I guess maybe we can all relate to that, though.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was actually relatable for one second when he did that.
unidentified		No, I'm just kidding.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was relatable.
		It was relatable.
		All the Secret Service wives, they were like, oh, he did that to me.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, man, you're the same.
unidentified		We have the same age gap as me and my daughter, Eva.
unidentified		She probably has some flashbacks there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, it's so bad at this point.
		And then they had Federman, oh my gosh, he might be even worse, if you can believe that.
		71% of Americans, what was that guys?
		And half of Democrats say Biden is too old to be president.
		Yeah, I don't know, they're gonna have to do some sort of a bait and switch here.
		They've still got some time.
		I don't know how they ride Biden to the finish line.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think it's going to be Gavin Newsom, because I already got an automated text message from Gavin Newsom.
		Like, why the heck does that matter?
		I'm like 2,000 miles away from him.
		So I think it's going to be Gavin Newsom.
		He has sponsored ads on Twitter, and he's already proposing like a 29th Amendment or whatever the heck it is.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they tried to get him on a debate stage with DeSantis, too.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, that looks like he's going to be the replacement guy here.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then his wife is like talking about, you know, how she killed her sister.
		And I guess then, their debate, what they're going through is, because they got two problems.
		out the dirty French laundry before they kind of set the stage.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I guess then their debate, what they're going through is because they got two problems.
		One, the longer they keep Biden put up against RFK Jr., The more RFK Jr.
		is going to get more air out of that room, and the more he's going to grow in those polls, but also, they realize...
		The sooner they throw Newsom into the debate, they're going to have to start destroying Biden.
		I mean, that's just how it's going to have to go.
		As soon as they put Newsom in there, it's going to be an all out of front attack on Biden.
		And then it's like, well, gee, how do they deal with that?
		Most popular president ever.
		900 bajillion votes.
		You know, greatest economy, Jack, everything.
		It's like, how are they going to how can they be sitting over here telling you Biden is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but then also giving you the replacement of Biden while he's still in office?
		So they got some problems that the difficult web.
		They've weaved here.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And if there's so much separation in the Republican primary, like if Trump's beating the crap out of DeSantis or vice versa, and it's pretty obvious who's going to win the Republican primary, I'm going to go crossover vote RFK.
		So the floor is like lower.
		The floor is higher if a Republican loses.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Because in Texas, during the primaries, you just walk up and say what party.
		In some states, you can only vote party.
		In some states, it's a whole ballot.
		You can vote for whoever you want.
		But yeah, in Texas, you just show up, you ask, do you want to vote Democrat or Republican primary, you can just say Democrat, they give you the Democrat ballot.
		I'm thinking the same thing.
		I don't think, because you're in Texas, I don't think Trump has a problem in Texas.
		So I don't think Trump really misses my vote.
		I don't think that really hurts him too much.
		I've said this, Trump still has my vote for 2024 presidency, but I think RFK Jr.
		is the more important person to support right now.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		I 100% agree, because If it's Trump versus Biden, I mean, yeah, Trump was a good president or whatever, but, like, it is a major risk if that falls through.
		But if it's Trump versus RFK, I'm not going to be up all night like, oh, who's going to win?
		Who's going to win?
		I can go to sleep soundly just knowing that the winner will be all right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		And that's that's the race America deserves.
		RFK Jr.
		is that I mean, honestly, if the Democrat Party Yeah, I mean, I don't either.
		They're just... I mean, they're worse than communists at this point.
		I mean, even the communists in the USSR, I don't think, believed in, like, trans kids and stuff like that.
		Any other reason to keep the Democrat Party around, quite frankly?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I don't either.
		They're just, I mean, they're worse than communists at this point.
		I mean, even the communists in the USSR, I don't think, believed in trans kids and stuff like that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They're like Aztecs sacrificing humans and drinking their blood on a stage.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
unidentified		Thank you.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Baffling.
		But yeah, yeah, I guess it's definitely an interesting, it's definitely an interesting Been an interesting cycle so far.
		We're only in 2023.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, before I let you go here, obviously your vi- I mean, this is, for Twitter, might be your biggest video ever, actually.
		52 seconds of you asking Peter Hotez if he'll do the debate.
		He runs away like a coward.
		But yeah, I mean, over 8 million views, I think it was.
		So that's your biggest video on Twitter.
		But normally, you go out with the Predator Poachers.
		You catch child predators.
		You've had dozens, if not hundreds, of arrests.
		Before I let you go, I gotta ask you the latest.
		What's the latest on Predator Poachers?
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the latest on predator poachers is... Gosh, what is our latest arrest?
		We got a few sex offenders being investigated right now.
		I think our latest... I'm trying to go back.
		We just got 21 predators this past trip.
		I think I said that already last time.
		But yeah, I mean, we're working on... Gosh, there's just so many.
		We're hitting the Northeast next.
		We're going to New England.
		We might go down, like, the East Coast, too, to go say hi to our friends at Elbert Roofing.
		If you're in South Carolina, they're the best roofers.
		But, yeah, I don't know.
		We just got some New England people.
		We have predators in Massachusetts and Maine, and one of them is, like, very bad.
		He just straight-up says he likes little kids, like, in his bio.
		So, hopefully, we got our first arrest in those states, which will be 44 and 45.
		But, obviously, we got to go do it.
		So, yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, I have a feeling that there might be a day here in the near future where you're catching one of these child predators and the address pops up, 1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, and I just wonder what would happen should that be the case.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		That would be our first female predator catch because he doesn't know how to use a phone, so it would be one of his aides doing the texting for him, so it would be her.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		They might give Biden five minutes of phone access a day.
		I don't know.
		He walks on stage and says, where am I?
		Where do I go?
		Where are my handlers?
		I'm the president, though.
		I got 85 million votes.
		Alex Rosen from Predator Poachers.
		Tell people where they can follow your work.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Go to Rumble.com, Predator Poachers, P-R-E-D-A-T-O-R, space Poachers, P-O-A-C-H-E-R-S.
		Completely free to follow on Rumble.
		As you know, if you're watching here on Rumble, it's completely free.
		Just press the follow button.
		That's a great way to support us.
		And big shout out to Albert Roofing.
		They are the best.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		And wow.
		Even going and finding Dr. Peter, who refuses to debate.
		That could be the biggest video if he just goes into hiding.
		So you've really put the spotlight on him now.
		Will that coward show up or not?
		My guess is, well, you have a $3 million bet he won't show up.
		So you're betting highly on that.
		Alex Rosen, thanks for joining us this Sunday evening.
alex rosen ▲ ● ▼		Thank y'all, Matt.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, there he goes.
		All right, when I come back, it's your phone calls.
		So we've got Jason and Chris and Richard and Corbin and Alvin all coming up on the other side.
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		All right, folks, this is amazing.
		I'm telling you, this is a serious phenomenon that we should all be celebrating happening here.
		Oh, it's such a relief.
		This is just a beautiful disaster, actually, is what it is.
		Joe Rogan having RFK Jr.
		on his podcast, being friends with Elon Musk, has led to the biggest I don't know if I would say the biggest domino falling, or maybe it's the biggest window opening, or doorway opening, or gateway opening into the truth about vaccines.
		And now it's such a national phenomenon, it's unstoppable.
		Unstoppable now.
		As if the COVID-19 vaccine lies hadn't done so much damage to the medical establishment, this is going to destroy it, ladies and gentlemen.
		And it's actually sad, because now, and it is the American left, I mean, I don't know, it's just a fact.
		I don't want to turn this medical issue into a political issue, but let's just be honest about it, it is.
		Even though RFK Jr.
		comes from the left.
		It's the left now attacking him for wanting to have the vaccine debate.
		So what is RFK Jr.
		gonna have to do when they tell him they're gonna steal the election from him with the superdelegates?
		He's gonna have to run as an independent or ask Trump to be his vice.
		That would be the real winner, but... No, this has become such a phenomenon.
		This debate has taken a storm on Twitter.
		Everybody responding to it.
		The original video has over 8 million views.
		It'll be probably 10 million tomorrow when Alex Rosen goes on the Alex Jones Show, by the way.
		They're panicked.
		They cannot defend their vaccines.
		They cannot defend their vaccine stances.
		They cannot do it.
		They can't.
		They will not show up for the debate.
		It doesn't matter if there's a billion dollars on the table.
		It doesn't matter.
		The vaccine big pharmaceutical industry is a trillion dollar industry annually.
		And if you find out they've been lying to you about everything and poisoning you, then there goes their ticket!
		1.5 million dollars to go on the Joe Rogan podcast?
unidentified		Ha!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Try 10 trillion and maybe he'll go on, because that's how much money they're going to cost themselves if they expose themselves.
		So, now, I want to take your calls.
		I'm going to be covering all of this tomorrow on The War Room.
		I know Alex is going to be covering this on his show as well.
		But I mean, folks, the responses to this on Twitter are unbelievable.
		With doctors basically saying, it's a good thing that you're not supporting Dr. Peter.
		It's a good thing you're not showing up to have this debate because that will just confirm the conspiracy theories are right.
		So not showing up proves them wrong, but showing up and having the debate proves them right.
		See, what have you just done?
		You've just admitted that you lose the debate.
		And that's why you're not showing up.
		And Dr. Peter retweeted that.
		Oh, I'm not showing up because they'll win the debate.
		Mark Cuban getting in on this?
		His tweet on this got over 20 million views.
		He's completely wrong, by the way.
		But see, this is the beauty of Elon Musk and Joe Rogan in this time and space is, they're not really political activists.
		They're just regular dudes that want to live their life and do their thing.
		And they get along with a lot of people.
		Like, I'm trying to...
		Folks, let me just put this like this shortly.
unidentified		Okay.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Saying, well, why won't they do this with Alex Jones?
		Why don't they comment with Alex Jones?
		Why don't they do it on the Alex Jones Show?
		Folks, Alex Jones is a war general who's been in the trenches for 30 years.
		Okay?
		Do you know how many people can even come close to relating to that?
		Or stand that presence and that energy for very long?
		Joe Rogan doesn't get into the trenches of fighting the globalists.
		Not many others do, let alone for that long.
		So, yeah, you know what?
		Mark Cuban and RFK Jr.
		and Elon Musk don't want to be publicly seen or related with Alex Jones or on his show because he's the war-hardened, crazy general that's been in the trenches all these years, even though he knows all the ins and outs and has completely proven right and continues to fight it.
		It's just, yeah, we don't really want to We don't get that.
		Like, yeah, we know he's right, but we don't get wanting to fight it.
		Like, we don't, eh, we're good.
unidentified		We don't want to.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, but that's not Joe Rogan.
		That's not Elon Musk.
		So people are like, oh, I like Joe.
		We'll be friends with Joe.
		I'll be friends with Elon Musk.
		We'll do all this stuff.
		And, and now that RFK is in the mix and they're actually getting into the real issues, it's, it's blowing up.
		It's a powder keg.
		It's gasoline hitting the flame of liberty.
		The flame of truth.
		And so now all of these people that'll actually respond.
		Oh, and they get to exist on Twitter too.
		So that's, you know, that helps too.
		They get to be on Twitter.
unidentified		Ouch, doesn't.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So all these people, Mark Cuban, all the other people are responding to Rogan and responding and they're saying, oh my gosh, this is, it's just like, wow.
		Wow.
		The pro-vaccine crowd is completely panicked at the idea of a debate.
		At the idea of a debate.
		And they are completely panicked.
		And they're calling Joe names and RFK Jr.
		names and Alex Rosen names.
		Joe Rogan names.
		And they're saying, oh, well, why would you?
		Debating Dr. Hotez doesn't make any sense.
		Like Mark Cuban here saying, debating Dr. Hotez doesn't make any sense.
		Debate somebody that actually debates on these issues.
		Oh, he's just the guy that goes on every major news channel, every cable news channel, one of the biggest childhood vaccine influencers in the state of Texas.
		Oh, why would you debate him on vaccines?
unidentified		He's just the top guy!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Says Mark Cuban.
		This is so beautiful right now.
		I'm telling you folks, the Titanic is hitting the iceberg and this is just the first crunch.
		This iceberg is huge.
		They don't want to have a debate on open borders.
		They don't want to have a debate on gun confiscation.
		They don't want to have a debate on climate change.
		They don't want to have a debate on the integrity of elections.
		They don't want to have a debate on internet censorship.
		This is the iceberg!
		They can't defend their ideas!
		Whether it's vaccines, or internet censorship, or taking your guns, or anything!
		And the truth is because it's not even their message!
		It's not even their belief!
		It's all propaganda!
		It's all leftist, globalist, communist, corporate government propaganda.
		So of course they can't defend the ideas.
		They're not even their ideas.
		They just show up thinking, oh, I'm virtue signaling.
		Oh, look, I'm against racism.
		I'm against climate change.
		I'm for vaccines.
		Look at me.
unidentified		I'm a good parent.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm a good propagandist.
		I'm a good slave.
		And now the free people, the free thinkers are saying, hey, you sure about that vaccine?
		Oh, I'm positive.
		Okay, well, let's actually have a public debate.
		No, no, no, I'm not publicly debating.
		No, no, I'm not falling for that trap again.
		They can't defend any of it.
		They can't defend their climate change agenda, gun control agenda, open borders, internet censorship, vaccines.
		They can't defend any of it.
		And I mean, I don't know if it all just has to come out on the Rogan Podcast or where it goes from here, but this ship is hitting the iceberg now.
		So is Dr. Peter gonna go on Joe Rogan's podcast?
		No!
		He's gonna go on MSNBC!
		Which nobody watches!
		Who in this audience has ever heard of the name Mehdi Hassan?
		Just, I mean, even the crew, who's around it all day, gets clips, watches the shows.
		Have you guys ever heard of Mehdi Hassan?
		None of ya.
		Nobody in the crew.
		They work in politics, 12 days a week here at M4s, nobody's here Mehdi Hassan.
		I know who he is just because I've followed the news like a hawk.
		He hosts a late night show.
		Well, I guess it's kind of late night, East Coast, 8 p.m., but.
		No, he's a no-name, nothing of a show host at MSNBC, just like everybody else.
		Has no ratings, has no popularity, can't even get a million views on a tweet.
		And what is Dr. Hotez doing?
		The co-director for the Center of Vaccine Development at Texas Children's Hospital?
		He's gonna go on MSNBC with his public defender of a talk show host, Mehdi Hassan.
		So, oh, I'm not gonna go debate vaccines with Joe Rogan.
unidentified		I'm gonna go on MSNBC and tell everybody that already believes my propaganda how great they are.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		This is just unbelievable stuff.
		This is so beautiful to see.
		I am doing backflips internally right now.
unidentified		Because I just gotta tell ya, it's nice to be right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's just, it's nice!
		You put your whole life into this.
		You put your life on the line for this information, and for your ideology, and your beliefs, and everything, and just to see the opposition to you completely fall apart with any challenge.
unidentified		Oh!
		Oh!
		And Mehdi Hassan just tweeted out a hit piece on Alex Jones.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Defend your trans kid stance. - Thanks.
		DEFEND YOUR MEDICAL TYRANNY WITH THE VACCINES!
		DEFEND YOUR CLIMATE CHANGE AGENDA!
		DEFEND YOUR OPEN BORDERS!
		DEFEND YOUR INTERNET CENTERSHIP!
unidentified		YOU CAN'T DO IT!
unidentified		YOU NEVER COULD!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, I just hope that Joe Rogan sees what he's done here.
		Unintentionally, I believe.
		He just is a big subject and makes sense.
		But I hope he understands the Pandora's box that he's opened.
		He should bring on like Mark Moreno from the Climate Depot to expose the lies about climate change and have the left respond saying, oh, my gosh, look at this misinformation, and then say, really, let's debate.
		He should have Elon Musk back on to talk about why trans kid surgery should be illegal and anybody that promotes it should go to jail.
unidentified		All right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And then have the left say, you can't say that, that's wrong!
		And Joe Rogan say, come on and debate it.
		You can play this game all day long.
		And now they've taken the first bait.
		They couldn't help themselves.
		See, Joe Rogan's show is too big.
		If they could have wiped Joe Rogan off of Spotify, kind of like with Alex Jones, when they took Alex Jones off of YouTube, everywhere else, we still have a big audience, but they thought, hey, this is it, he's out of the public forum, so whatever he's talking about, the guests, the news, like, we just ignore that, it doesn't get into our purview, not in our consciousness, not our problem anymore.
		Rogan is everywhere, they can't censor him, they can't get a show off the air, still the biggest show.
		So, when they do this on the Rogan Show, they have to respond.
		We're going to cover more of this tomorrow.
		I'm telling you folks, this is just, this is huge.
		The Titanic has hit the iceberg.
		It's taken on water.
		The entire leftist establishment, the entire corporate world government is sinking.
		It's as good as sunk.
		And so all you see, that's just why Peter Hotez, he's making the fatal mistake.
		He's going to stay on that ship.
		Get off the ship now, Peter.
		Get off the ship now, Peter!
		We know the vaccines cause autism!
		We know the COVID-19 vaccines killed hundreds of thousands of people!
		We know it!
		Get off the ship!
		You don't want a debate!
		Probably a smart idea!
		Now get off the sinking ship!
		Alright, let me take calls.
		I promised I would.
		I'm almost out of time.
		Let's go to Jason in Texas.
		Jason, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Uh, yeah.
		That's beautiful what Alex Rosen's doing.
		We need more people like him.
		We need, like, Alex Stein.
		Everyone, get out there.
		Expose these people.
		Get in their damn face.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're an American.
unidentified		See, we're supposed to sit here and take this like, oh, you need to, you know, you gotta be nice and you gotta have common courtesy and you gotta have decorum and oh my gosh.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You are an American and the Republican is in distress.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You better start acting like it.
unidentified		Exactly.
		We need people to stand up, everyone.
		Come on.
		Get on it here.
		See, I would have taken it a step further.
		I probably would have beat the shit out of that Peter guy.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, you wouldn't have.
		You're a nice, calm person.
		You wouldn't harm a fly.
unidentified		That's what I'm saying.
		He's just going to go back to his job and keep doing the same shit and expose these people.
		Come on, everybody.
		It's what we need.
		Time to shut it down.
		Let's stand up and take this country back.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, I really think that the effect of this is not going to be understood by most people.
		But I'm telling you, this exposure of this issue and Hotez not willing to show up in debate is so paramount right now.
		I don't think people really fully appreciate it.
		I mean, how could they?
		They don't really understand what's at stake.
		But I'm telling you, this is huge.
		This is huge.
unidentified		Huge.
		People like us and all the listeners who listen to Alex, like I said, he is the general.
		I've been listening to him for 17 years, and I'm glad I did.
		And let these idiots, if they want to go vaccinate their kids and kill their kids, go right ahead.
		Less Democrats and liberals for us.
		But we're smarter than that, and yeah, we need to expose this shit.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		See, and that's the issue of, it's an intellectual debate you might have, but you can never just lump the kids into that.
		That's the problem.
		The kids are innocence, they don't deserve it.
		But that's been the globalist's big mistake.
		Intellectually, they feel that they're in the right, and maybe they are.
		Most humans are worthless eaters as they see them.
		They're stupid.
		They're lazy.
		They don't do anything.
		They don't add anything.
		They don't even try to.
		And so, just mop them up.
		Just get rid of them.
		Survival of the fittest is how the globalists would argue it.
		But see, when you're talking about an adult that makes a decision that makes you feel that way, that's another thing than an innocent child that you're dooming to Oppression and slavery.
		That's a totally different thing.
		Thanks for the call, Jason.
		Let's go to Richard in California.
		Richard, you're on the air.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		Hey, thank you, Owen.
		Thank you for taking my call.
		And thank you for answering the call to, you know, step up.
		Because a lot of people hear the call, but few people answer the call.
		And thank you.
		An idea for an Alex Jones shirt.
		Next one.
		The front of it should say, I hate Alex Jones.
		And the back of it needs to say, obedience is what gives tyrants their power.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We have an I hate Alex Jones shirt, don't we?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We might have sold out of it.
unidentified		Well, anyway, well, the obedience that gives tyrants their power.
		Read that again on the back of a shirt.
		Just imagine standing in the line to get in somewhere and somebody sees that and they're like, what the heck?
		You know, it's just culture jamming at its finest.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, tyrants love obedience.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And you know, with vaccines, I met my wife in like 2014 and I was just newly woken up watching the Alex Jones Show and I kind of bullied her into not vaccinating my child, our child.
		And, you know, she was a liberal and we connected on the Gary Webb book.
		And I knew that she had it within her to research it, and I kind of bullied her into researching it.
		And she figured out, well, hey, maybe we should take a look at not vaccinating our daughter.
		And then flash forward five years later, the COVID thing, if we would have vaccinated our daughter, we would have had to send her to school with a mask for two years and just totally screwed her up.
		So we're all vindicated.
		And now this RFK thing can show her mom that, you know, why we made that decision.
		Because he lays it out so perfectly and beautifully.
		And, you know.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		This is so big because, look, they can't lie and destroy everybody.
		They just can't.
		And Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and RFK Jr.
		have too much of a pedigree and too much respect and are too popular for them to destroy.
		And so they're kind of weighing the options like, well, do we do a full destruction of them like we did of Alex Jones?
		Uh, or would there be, would that just be too much and that would damage us too much in the end?
		I think they've realized that the latter is the case.
		And so they kind of have to let them out there now, but I'm telling you folks, this vaccine thing is huge.
		It's, it's, it's one of their major, it's one of their biggest population control agendas.
		It's one of their biggest cash cows.
		And I'm telling you, like they say, Oh, the, the average person will see, Oh, $1.5 million.
		Why won't he show up?
		Because the, the, the lies.
		Hey Richard, thanks for the call.
		I gotta jump, take a couple more.
		Let's go to Corbin in Idaho.
		Corbin, you're on the air, go ahead.
unidentified		Hi there, Owen.
		Howdy.
		Today, I wanted to call today, I kinda wanted to share a story about, you know, whenever I first really, like, At the beginning, coronavirus, you know, it was, there's a lot of questions.
		Nobody really understood.
		They didn't really do a lot.
		Well, I work underground in the mine.
		And so we fly in, we work two weeks on, two weeks off.
		We fly in and we'd have to take a couple of days and they would do a COVID test on us to see if we were fit to go to work.
		Right.
		And well, one of my buddies, he was flying in and well, he had to cancel it.
		He had a family emergency, so he ended up not even going to his appointment.
		Well, a few days later at his house, He gets a letter saying that he had tested positive for the coronavirus.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But he never took the test?
unidentified		Exactly.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And so, I think a lot of this information that these guys are, the doctors, you know, they're getting, whoever they're getting taught by, and the lessons, the plans, or whatever, it's coming from, you know, the top of... Well, I mean, if you put your detective hat on, this one seems pretty obvious.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Whether he showed up or didn't show up, he was testing positive for COVID and they were sending that letter out.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And so when he called the doctor's office, because he has it hanging up in his house right now, because it's so funny to him, but so he called the doctor's office to find out what's going on.
		Well, they ship it out.
		They ship them out to a third party and the third party is the one who tests them.
		They're not even getting tested in the doctor's office.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		That's kind of standard protocol, but so it's, but again, so that tells you that, I mean, the third party didn't even have his test, but they said it was scheduled, so they already had planned to send it out positive.
		I don't know.
		That's, that bears a little investigation.
		I don't think that they even, I think that they've been brainwashed and doctorated by whoever they're getting taught by for so long that they don't even have the, they don't even have the capacity to question No, actually, you're totally right, and I'm not the medical professional that can give you the keyhole view into this, but most of that stuff is outsourced.
		Most of that stuff gets outsourced from the hospitals, and so you're right.
		It's like they really don't even know.
unidentified		And they don't even question it.
		It's just another action for them.
		They don't even question it.
		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
unidentified		I wanted to share that story, so I appreciate it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Nope, that was a great story.
		Thank you for calling.
		Let's go to Alvin in Austin.
		Alvin, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, this was a heck of a circle jerk that you had there earlier with Alex Rosen, and I think your boss is going to be so happy that you are getting him lined up to catch another case for harassment against people that are going to be going out to barack protest.
		And just for all of you Alex Jones viewers out there, if you go trolling through the archives, you'll see back in 2021 when I called into the show and convinced Alex that he actually should be looking into Hotez and that Hotez had the best information and Alex Jones was just happy as a pig and shit.
		So, hey, nice to see you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So now hold on.
		Don't hang up.
		Don't be a coward.
		Don't call in and state your piece and then run like a coward now.
		Are you talking about when when Hotez was saying don't get the vaccine it could be deadly?
		Alex was saying he's right?
unidentified		No, I was talking about when Hotez was saying misinformation online is horrible and is causing people to die.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I don't know the context you're talking about.
		Dr. Peter Hotez wrote a story for the Boston Globe.
		I have it right here.
		Who will defend embattled scientists?
		He wanted anybody that was questioning the COVID-19 vaccine or anybody promoting the vaccine censored off the internet.
		So I don't know what you're talking about.
		That's what Peter Hotez was doing about censorship.
		He was promoting it.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		He was promoting it and I told Alex that he ought to look into Peter Hotez and that he had the greatest information about misinformation.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so what's your problem?
		Do you care about Alex Jones or not?
		Because you call in and you're talking trash and you're acting like Alex Rosen did something illegal when he didn't.
unidentified		Alex Jones is full of shit.
unidentified		Alex Rosen harassed someone in public and also effectively doxed their information online, which is against Twitter.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Wait, effectively?
		What do you mean effectively?
		What did he do so effectively?
		Do you know where he lives?
		Because I don't.
unidentified		Alex just came on your show and said that this man addresses public information and has posted a video going to this man's house and showing that the man is at his house.
unidentified		This is just like Elon Musk getting so pissed about people posting the location of his plane.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Did Alex Rosen post Dr. Peter Hotez's address?
		No, but he did.
		Did Alex Rosen do anything illegal?
unidentified		I didn't say he did.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Now, you can call in and talk trash on Alex Jones.
		I'm not Alex Jones.
		You do understand that, I'm assuming.
		So maybe you should call in to Alex tomorrow, and you can tell him how much smarter than you, or smarter than he, you are.
		How about that?
		Does that sound good?
unidentified		You got it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I would love that.
		I mean, you know.
		Oh, you're full of crap.
		That's what Peter Hotez says, but he won't show up for the debate.
		So you're going to be like Hotez or are you going to show up?
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