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Boy, was there some big news last week. | ||
And whether it was the beginning of the week with the story of the unaccompanied minors getting sex trafficked via Joe Biden's open borders with the HHS whistleblower and the Project Veritas videos of the little children that are getting sex trafficked on video saying, yes, I come here. | ||
I'm an unaccompanied Unaccompanied minor that crossed the southern border and my sponsor pimps me out and whores me out. | ||
And this all ties back into the story during the abortion phenomenon where the young girl was taken across state lines to have an abortion and it turns out it looks like that she was also an unaccompanied minor that was being whored out to other illegal immigrants. | ||
And so they buried that story really quickly. | ||
They were using it Thinking it would help them with the abortion argument. | ||
Oh, look at this little girl. | ||
She had to cross state lines to get an abortion. | ||
But then when people zoomed in on the story and started digging in, we found out, wait a second, well, this little girl, was she raped? | ||
And well, they don't want to say rape because it turns out she was being pimped out. | ||
And it was an illegal immigrant that would have quote unquote raped her, but I guess he paid for that sex. | ||
And so it's not rape. | ||
Well, we just abandoned that story. | ||
But it all comes back with that. | ||
And then, in the middle of the week, I guess you could say the end of the week, Kanye West, now known as Ye, comes on the Alex Jones Show, and it just becomes the most viewed thing of the week, more so even than Little Boys and Little Girls on a video saying they get sex trafficked. | ||
Pretty powerful stuff. | ||
But then Friday, the big reveal, Was, of course, the Twitter files. | ||
And this is actually... I don't know. | ||
I mean, the yay thing ended up being the focus point. | ||
It got the most views of all these stories, I would say. | ||
The yay thing probably was... got the most attention. | ||
But if there is not any action taken... | ||
When we have little boys and girls on video saying I'm getting sex trafficked and if there's no action taken and then you have the Twitter files released where it shows that the Democrats and the FBI really it was the FBI working with the Democrats but somehow acting as if Biden was already president and working with Katie Hobbs and others we now know | ||
The leaders of the Democrat Party, some in office, some not yet in office, working with our federal bureaucracies, the FBI mainly, to censor speech on the internet, giving them the commands, showing them the exact tweets and the exact accounts they want removed. | ||
So it's not just that we have the smoking gun, we have the entire scene. | ||
From the Southern Border child sex trafficking to the Democrat violation of the First Amendment, we've got the smoking gun, we've got them holding the gun, we've got them standing over the bleeding out body while the body's still warm. | ||
I mean, it's everything. | ||
And the saddest part about it is that as I sit here in this chair, On this Sunday night, December 4th, 2022, hosting the InfoWars Sunday Night Live transmission, I will confidently say to you right now that nothing is going to happen. | ||
Not a damn thing. | ||
Doesn't bring me joy, doesn't make me feel good. | ||
It's just, that's probably the case here. | ||
And you gotta just ask yourself, well how bad does it have to get If having the victims of child sex trafficking on tape isn't enough, if having the files of the Democrats running censorship campaigns on the internet isn't enough, what is it going to take? | ||
How bad does it have to get in this country? | ||
How egregious, how blatant do their crimes have to get? | ||
For anyone in a leadership position to stand up. | ||
For anyone in a law enforcement position to stand up. | ||
I think there's plenty of activists in the media. | ||
I think there's plenty of activists in the American people. | ||
Maybe not enough, but that's why we're desperate for leadership. | ||
Where is the Republican Party? | ||
How have articles of impeachment not been filed against Joe Biden for the child sex trafficking at the southern border? | ||
How have, well I guess maybe we'll find out when the 118th Congress is sworn in in January if there's going to be any investigations into Twittergate. | ||
But it really is quite a joke to sit here and act like we didn't know that was going on the whole time. | ||
And we all knew that the Democrats were censoring Twitter. | ||
It was pretty obvious. | ||
But okay, again, now we have the smoking gun, we have the Democrats holding the gun, and we have them standing over the dead body as it's bleeding out. | ||
So it's the entire crime scene, whether it's the child sex trafficking or whether it's the censorship on the internet, the entire crime scene in real time, there for us to see, and we'll still have no leadership do anything about it. | ||
And so it almost becomes an incident of cucking the American people saying, yeah, here, look, we do child exploitation ads in Balenciaga. | ||
So what? | ||
Yeah, we do child sex trafficking at the southern border. | ||
Here they are. | ||
So what? | ||
Yeah, we actively censor your free speech, total violation of the First Amendment on the internet. | ||
So what? | ||
What are you going to do about it? | ||
Who you got that's going to stand up to us? | ||
And we get nothing. | ||
We get nothing. | ||
So it's only gonna get worse, but it's incredible that we've gotten it to this point. | ||
So the... I mean, where's anybody? | ||
Where's Ted Cruz? | ||
Where's Kevin McCarthy? | ||
Where's Mitch McConnell? | ||
Where's anybody? | ||
Anybody. | ||
Anybody. | ||
Anybody would be nice. | ||
Anybody calling out the child sex trafficking at the southern border would be nice. | ||
Anybody. | ||
I mean, there should be, the Republicans should be having press conferences. | ||
If they don't have, they're not going to. | ||
If they don't have a press conference on the Hill tomorrow, I mean, this is a joke. | ||
Why don't the Republicans, why aren't they blasting that they're going to be having a press conference tomorrow on the Hill and get all the big Republicans behind it? | ||
To say, here, look at this footage of children being sex trafficked across the border. | ||
This is a complete disaster. | ||
We need to do something about it. | ||
Here's the Twitter files showing the Democrat Party censoring the internet for political agendas. | ||
We need to do something about it. | ||
And they'll do nothing. | ||
You'll get nothing. | ||
You have the Democrats holding the smoking gun, standing over the dying body as it's bleeding out, and the Republican Party will still do nothing about it. | ||
But they really are in an interesting situation with these Twitter files, aren't they? | ||
And we've got a clip of James Woods on with Tucker Carlson. | ||
I want to play a little bit of that for you here. | ||
Because... | ||
Even again, we've already known all this, but now we have the evidence. | ||
You can submit this evidence, use this evidence in court. | ||
So here's a bit of James Woods on with Tucker Carlson responding to the Twitter files showing that the DNC directly called for him to be censored on Twitter and Vijaya Giddeh. | ||
Went ahead and did that for the Democrat Party. | ||
Total illegality, total collusion. | ||
They cried about Russian collusion, rigging elections. | ||
No, it was the Democrats the whole time. | ||
Let's see if they call for the investigations that they called for with the fake Russia story. | ||
Let's see if they call for that with the Democrat scam and scandal. | ||
Here's Jane Woods responding on with Tucker Carlson. | ||
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I think the whole thing is astonishing. | |
I'm just, I'm for the first time in my life, honestly, speechless. | ||
Well, it is astonishing, as you just pointed out, civil law is used extensively by the left to really crush people on the right. | ||
Alex Jones just had a billion-dollar settlement against him because he said something that he didn't hurt anybody. | ||
He said something people didn't like. | ||
And they wrecked his life, and in the lives of many other people, and they tried to wreck yours. | ||
Is there some kind of legal or civil recourse that you would have against the people who violated your First Amendment rights? | ||
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I can guarantee you one thing. | |
More than anything else you'll ever hear in your life. | ||
I will be getting a lawyer. | ||
I will be suing the Democratic National Committee no matter what, whether I win or lose. | ||
I am going to stand up for the rights that every American, not a so-called celebrity. | ||
I'm not a celebrity. | ||
hardly recognizable anymore because my career has been destroyed by these very people and i will sue and i'm hoping other people will sue and if it turns out there are a lot of us on this list where the dnc targeted us and i will quote the immortal words of joseph welch when he attacked joe mccarthy for the enemies list he had at long last sir have you no shame yes president biden | ||
all of your stocky little operatives in the dnc who have targeted american citizens have you mr president have all of you at last no shame Yeah, and of course the answer is no, they don't have shame. | ||
But we will be following that, and there may be more. | ||
Clearly they were fixated on you, which I hope you take as a compliment, but also propels you forward to bring justice. | ||
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I think it is a compliment, but it's a big price to pay. | |
It's not a lot of fun. | ||
I loved my career for 50 years. | ||
I was happy to be an award-winning and honored and appreciated actor, and I missed my career. | ||
And these people took it from me. | ||
And they'll pay a price later in my life, you know. | ||
So you have James Woods with Tucker Carlson saying more than the entire Republican Party has said since the Twitter files came out. | ||
Oh, man, I'm telling you, if we can't get a victory from this, and we're not going to, I mean, folks, I'm not trying to be negative. | ||
It's okay. | ||
It's all right. | ||
But don't don't expect anything to come from this. | ||
I just wouldn't get your hopes up. | ||
I mean, they haven't even arrested Sam Bankman-Freed. | ||
He's running around free. | ||
He's getting invited to New York Times talks. | ||
They're giving him a standing ovation. | ||
They just spotted Caroline Ellison, they believe, in New York City running around. | ||
She hasn't been detained or questioned. | ||
Nobody has. | ||
They just laundered billions of dollars. | ||
They just laundered billions of dollars directly through Ukraine to the Republican Party, to the Democrat Party. | ||
And we get nothing. | ||
Because the criminality in D.C. | ||
is so overwhelming. | ||
That we just have no way. | ||
We just have no way. | ||
So it's just going to have to implode on itself. | ||
It's just going to have to collapse in on itself. | ||
But then again, that's the danger because that's the globalist plan. | ||
That's what they want. | ||
And all the corrupt bastards, all the corrupt politicians and media who have done this to us, who have put us in this position of collapse, they're the ones that have cut the deals with the World Economic Forum. | ||
They're the ones that have cut the deals With the Chinese Communists, they're the ones that have cut the deals, so that when it all collapses, they believe they'll be okay, they'll inherit whatever comes in on top of this, and they'll be on top of the power structure. | ||
That's why they lie to you, that's why they deceive you, and that's why they are along for the ride. | ||
They know how bad it is, they just believe they'll be raining on top of the heap when it all crashes down. | ||
But just look at the conundrum they're in. | ||
The 27 most embarrassing reactions to Taibbi thread about Twitter censoring Hunter Biden tweets. | ||
And there's a theme, there's a common theme here. | ||
They don't know what to do. | ||
They really got caught off guard by this one. | ||
And they can't decide what to do because out of one side of their mouth, they're saying, this all happened under Trump. | ||
Trump censored the internet. | ||
Trump is bad. | ||
Trump censored Twitter. | ||
Trump censored free speech. | ||
Trump is the criminal. | ||
Trump committed the crimes. | ||
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Oh. | |
Which, of course, would be admitting that, OK, there was internet censorship. | ||
And it did censor conservatives, Republicans, Trump supporters. | ||
If you think Trump was behind that, well then you're the idiot liberal that fell for the whole thing to begin with. | ||
But that's where they're going with it. | ||
Because they don't know how to respond. | ||
They're truly caught off guard. | ||
Everything they say is a lie. | ||
Their entire worldview is a lie. | ||
So they're genuinely caught off guard by this and just in a reaction saying, but it happened during Trump! | ||
But it happened during Trump! | ||
Because they can't deny the facts of what happened. | ||
Government intervened in our elections via censoring free speech. | ||
The U.S. | ||
government On behalf of the Democrat Party, intervened in U.S. | ||
elections, colluded, interfered, rigged, you might say, U.S. | ||
elections by censoring and interfering in free speech. | ||
A direct violation of the First Amendment, Elon Musk agrees in his own words. | ||
Mr. 80% free speech. | ||
But they don't know what to do. | ||
Out of one side of the mouth, because they can't deny the facts that we have the documents now, They say, it was Trump that did it, it was Trump! | ||
And then out of the other side, they're saying, but it didn't even happen, it's not even real. | ||
So they can't decide what to do. | ||
Oh, blame Trump because it's obviously real, they have the documents, or just go in complete denial mode and just say it's not happening at all. | ||
So there's... I tell you, the 27 most embarrassing reactions to Taibbi thread about Twitter censoring Hunter Biden tweets, it really is hilarious. | ||
It really is hilarious to watch them freak out about this and watch them be in complete denial and or blame Trump knowing that they can't deny it. | ||
And that's where they're all at. | ||
And so they're attacking Matt Taibbi, they're attacking Elon Musk. | ||
I won't go down the list of all of these, but it is truly hilarious. | ||
It is truly hilarious. | ||
The response here. | ||
And yet we're going to have to sit here and watch child sex trafficking exposed at the southern border go completely ignored, and government interference, a direct violation of the First Amendment to collude and rig elections, and there's just going to be nothing done about any of it. | ||
Absolutely nothing is going to be done about any of this. | ||
Pathetic. | ||
Again, maybe in Arizona, that might be all you get. | ||
Because it turns out, Katie Hobbs' office contacts Twitter to have posts removed. | ||
The Democrat candidate who ran the Arizona election censored her political opponents, disrupted election day votes, and then threatened counties with prosecution if they didn't declare her the winner. | ||
This story continues to get more interesting, folks. | ||
The story in Arizona continues to get more interesting. | ||
We'll see just how much fight the Republicans down there have, Kerry Lake and others. | ||
But yeah, Katie Hobbs is a dirty, dirty, crooked dealer. | ||
That's the Gateway Pundit headline. | ||
I don't even know that, but that's what she is. | ||
She's crooked. | ||
Crooked Secretary of State Katie Hobbs had Twitter silence her critics in Arizona prior to Goober National run. | ||
Data from Missouri versus Biden. | ||
So there are multiple lawsuits. | ||
This gives a lot more evidence to these plaintiffs in the lawsuits and definitely gives them a little more firepower, but | ||
How much time, how much time, let's do the old over under, how much time between ABC News, CBS News, and NBC News, how much time between those three were spent on the Hunter Biden laptop story? | ||
Now that we know it was completely real, and the Democrats and the Bidens made sure it was not allowed to be shared on Twitter, and the intelligence community told you it was Russian disinformation. | ||
They all lied. | ||
They all knew it was real. | ||
They all lied to you and censored the truth. | ||
How much time did ABC News, CBS News, and NBC News spend on it this weekend? | ||
Over under, guys? | ||
How about over under one second? | ||
Over under one second. | ||
You're gonna take the over in there? | ||
The crew's gonna go- You're gonna take the over? | ||
Over under one second. | ||
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Fool. | |
Under. | ||
I made it one second for a reason. | ||
You clearly don't gamble much. | ||
Zero seconds! | ||
Although I would understand taking the over seems pretty obvious, right? | ||
Like, I mean, that's gotta be over one second. | ||
I mean, they had to at least, all you had to do was say, Hunter Biden laptop, and that would have been over one second. | ||
Nope! | ||
They got a straight zero, boys! | ||
Sorry, guys! | ||
Zero! | ||
I was watching, even on the liberal news networks, I'm sitting up on Friday night, And I'm just watching it all. | ||
And do you know what CNN and MSNBC were talking about while the Twitter files were being dropped in live time? | ||
You guys want to guess? | ||
No, the World Cup, I might have been okay with that. | ||
Bring it closer to home a little bit. | ||
And there it is! | ||
The Alex Jones Kanye West yay interview is what they spent their Friday night talking about. | ||
And it's just... These... I wish these things... Because it's just impossible. | ||
I mean, there's no time for really properly game planning this stuff. | ||
There's no... | ||
You can take a pretty good guess at how media will respond to certain things. | ||
But, you know, that was my frustration during the day that it was happening was that I'm watching all the critics attack Ye and saying how crazy he is. | ||
Okay, yeah, going on one of the biggest watch shows in the world and saying you like Hitler and Nazis is pretty top-level crazy. | ||
No doubt about that. | ||
But is it any crazier than believing men can get pregnant? | ||
Is it any crazier than chopping up little boys and girls and calling it gender affirmation? | ||
Trans kids? | ||
I'm not so sure about that. | ||
But that's what's frustrating is We can't even have an intellectual conversation, and I'm not even sure that's what Ye wants, but it's like, take Alyssa Milano, for example, turning her Tesla, trading in her Tesla for a Volkswagen to fight Nazis. | ||
Okay, well, Volkswagen worked with the Nazis, was started by Nazis, so do we cancel Volkswagen? | ||
I mean, Alyssa Milano, Looks like an idiot. | ||
Well, we already knew that. | ||
But okay, do we cancel Adidas? | ||
Do we cancel Volkswagen? | ||
Do we change the Olympic logos? | ||
So it's all these questions. | ||
What about Operation Paperclip? | ||
And so again, that's the thing is, yay becomes this big controversy. | ||
But yet, you didn't have near that attention or energy from anybody ever when it came to Operation Paperclip. | ||
When the U.S. | ||
government hired, what was it, like 140 Nazi scientists? | ||
I don't remember the number. | ||
But hey, what did the Nazis do? | ||
The Nazis? | ||
The Nazis confiscated your firearms! | ||
Oh, who wants to do that? | ||
The Nazis would force Medicaid. | ||
They'd force you to take an injection. | ||
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Oh, oh, who wants to make you do that? | |
Oh, they would do experiments on people and not tell them what they were doing. | ||
Oh, who's doing that to us now? | ||
Who's doing that to us now? | ||
And then Elon Musk, Mr. 80% free speech, goes on a Twitter live space. | ||
It's basically an audio thing you can do. | ||
Live on Twitter. | ||
Millions of people tuned in. | ||
And do we have him when he says he wants to punch Kanye, guys? | ||
Hey guys, we have this. | ||
So here, do we have the shorter clip by any chance? | ||
We can play the full clip. | ||
I sent a 20-second clip. | ||
If we don't have it, we can play the full clip, though. | ||
Either way, so here's Elon Musk, Mr. 80% free speech, saying, yay tweeting out the Raelian logo, which is a Hindu swastika with a star of David, and an ideology that believes in human empowerment, that basically we were created by aliens. | ||
I'm just generally speaking here. | ||
I didn't do too deep of a dive. | ||
That was a surface-level dive I did, but he shares this logo. | ||
Smart man Elon Musk doesn't even know what he shares and then says, yay, doing that was incitement to violence. | ||
It made me want to punch yay, but I can say I want to punch yay, but he can't share the logo on Twitter. | ||
Here it is. | ||
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It was like, uh, you know, where that was my decision. | |
But I think it's important that people know, okay, that was my decision. | ||
Um, because at a certain point you have to say, what is incitement to violence? | ||
Because that is against the law in the U.S. | ||
You can't just have a, you know, form a club, uh, let's go murder someone club. | ||
Um, you know, that's not actually legal. | ||
So, uh... Hold it right there! | ||
Whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
Has Elon Musk never heard of Planned Parenthood? | ||
I'm just... | ||
Elon Musk must have never heard of abortion. | ||
Let's go Murder People Club. | ||
Elon, clearly you've never heard of abortion or Planned Parenthood. | ||
Those things do exist, actually, Elon. | ||
Continue. | ||
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The question is, what is an assignment to violence? | |
I think, you know, posting swastikas in what is obviously not a good way is an assignment to violence. | ||
So pause it right there. | ||
Now look, I don't doubt Elon Musk's brilliance. | ||
I would be a fool to do so. | ||
But, clearly, he's ignorant on this subject. | ||
Kanye did not post a Nazi swastika. | ||
That's just a fact. | ||
And the very groups where the logo originates from, the Realists, I think I'm saying that right, Realists, Realism, The very group where that logo originates from, at least in modern day sense, goes back thousands of years, but in modern day sense, that group is still allowed with their logo as their profile picture. | ||
So it's like, Elon, am I really supposed to believe that Elon Is that ignorant to think that Ye posted a Nazi swastika when he didn't and to say that Ye posting that image is an incitement to violence when it's not? | ||
If anything, he's just trolling. | ||
Or maybe he believes in the Raelian movement. | ||
I've never heard of the Raelian movement. | ||
The surface level dive that I did into it, I kind of liked it. | ||
I kind of like what they promoted. | ||
I kind of like what they had to say. | ||
I'm into intelligent design. | ||
I think that's absolute fact. | ||
I know about the ancient human history that we're being denied and lied to about. | ||
We are not on an arc of evolution. | ||
We are not on a straight line of evolution. | ||
That's bullcrap. | ||
The human evolution has had ebbs and flows and there's reasons for this that we know in science that we just don't get in the modern day education system because they want you to be ignorant to all this. | ||
So, I'm supposed to believe that Elon Musk Is either so lazy or so ignorant that he censors Ye for posting the Raelian logo when that is perfectly allowed on Twitter and clearly not an incitement to violence. | ||
So is it like a little, are Ye and Elon doing like a big massive like 1-2 Twitter troll like back and forth? | ||
Or is Elon Musk really that ignorant on this subject? | ||
But he goes on, continue. | ||
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So because Elon is ignorant on an issue, he says he was incited to violence. | |
Oh, so pause it. | ||
So because Elon is ignorant on an issue, he says he was incited to violence. | ||
Now think about how dangerous that is. | ||
Well, okay, let's use that logic universally. | ||
I don't like babies getting aborted. | ||
And so when I see people promoting abortion or I see Planned Parenthood accounts raising money, that incites me to violence so I want them banned. | ||
That's what Elon Musk's logic in this situation is. | ||
So okay, so if that's your logic, who ends up getting to speak? | ||
Virtually nobody. | ||
And it won't be 80% free speech Elon Musk. | ||
It'll be 10% free speech Elon Musk. | ||
You'll just be able to post about how cute puppies are or something. | ||
Oh, but even that'll be debatable because you'll have somebody that had a puppy that died in their arms and so you can't even tweet about cute puppies. | ||
So again, am I supposed to believe Elon Musk? | ||
Is that ignorant and out of touch? | ||
I have a hard time believing it, but he's the one saying it. | ||
Continue. | ||
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Hang on, but you mentioned in a good way. | |
Well, no. | ||
It's just that, like, there could be, like, an analysis of the Second World War or something, you know. | ||
That's a history drama or whatever, you know. | ||
It's contextual. | ||
Yeah, it's like, okay, you know, like, let's live on a battlefield or something, and that's got, you know, this, you know, some sort of, you know, war history thing. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Yeah, something like that. | ||
Then that would be okay, but So you could post a logo of a swastika? | ||
So that's good. | ||
So here's the problem. | ||
Elon Musk is trying to play both sides here, clearly. | ||
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He's trying to play both sides. | |
He's pretty much said as much. | ||
Yeah, I mean, it's like, you can also like say like, okay, well, let's look for added context outside of Twitter to say, to say like, well, what's this meant in a, in a. | ||
So that's good. | ||
So here's the problem. | ||
Elon Musk is, is trying to play both sides here. | ||
Clearly he's trying to play both sides. | ||
He's pretty much said as much. | ||
I don't know if he's doing, if thinking things behind the scenes, but. | ||
So then yay, based on your logic right there, yay should be allowed to post a Nazi swastika if he wanted and say this was the Nazi swastika. | ||
By Elon Musk's own logic, he should be allowed to do that. | ||
But that's not even what he did, and he got censored and Musk said he wants to punch him in the face. | ||
Alright, we're about to be joined by a great investigative journalist, Kristen Harris, to discuss the real Nazis who are in Ukraine that the left is inviting to the White House and events in Florida and all kinds of stuff and they just don't want you to know about that they want you to focus on yay because that's a nice convenient distraction from the actual Nazis that the U.S. | ||
government hired in Operation Paperclip and the actual Nazis that the U.S. | ||
government is funding as a proxy group the Azov Battalion in Ukraine who don't even hide that they're Nazis I mean that's the craziest thing you can go find their recent videos they're doing They're doing salutes and they have swastika tattoos and everything. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
Or maybe they're just flat earthers and they're misunderstood. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Maybe Christian Harris can explain it all. | ||
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Kristen, I just want to let you kind of lay it all out here, flesh it all out here, and then I'll respond to it and ask the questions. | ||
But the basic story is this. | ||
We are now openly inviting public Nazis from Ukraine to the White House, to Florida for events, to other events. | ||
You've been covering this, you've been following this. | ||
Tell people where they can follow your news coverage of this as well, but then just lay into the plethora. | ||
Of the evidence we have here of in the modern day, we're not talking about years ago, we're talking about today, this White House openly working with Nazis in Ukraine, known as the Azov Battalion. | ||
Kristen Harris, what are we dealing with? | ||
First of all Owen, thank you for inviting me on the show to have this conversation today, and I myself am a user of Survival Shield X2, and for anyone out there that wants to have crazy vivid dreams nightly, I can completely verify that it works. | ||
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Yeah, there's definitely a lot of interesting things happening. | ||
You guys broke the internet this week on InfoWars under the topic of Yi discussing his belief and controversial subject of Nazis and his belief in their history and everything else. | ||
But one thing that really I found interesting is the cognitive dissonance that is upheld by most of our society who are programmed by their TV, by their cell phones, to believe that something is important and completely ignore the fact that our government literally within the last three months, in September, invited a half a dozen Azov battalion To speak to Congress. | ||
They met with over 50 congressional members. | ||
These are real Nazis that literally the organization, like you mentioned earlier, is a proxy. | ||
And it stems back to the ashes of Operation Red Sox. | ||
Not the Boston Red Sox, but Operation Red Sox, which is one of the first failed operations by the CIA when it was quickly formulated in 1947. | ||
So what we're seeing here is after the disaster of Operation Red Sox, they decided that they would start to infiltrate and work alongside the Nazi regimes, including the OUN, the The organization of Ukrainian nationalists, which is a Nazi organization, which was involved in hunting down Jews. | ||
And not only that, the CIA said they were worse than Nazis because they did the Nazis dirty work for them. | ||
That's in CIA reports released that you can read. | ||
I know there's a lot of information, so-called back checkers out there, but it's funny. | ||
They completely dismiss the original research into these organizations that we had from from that era. | ||
Only the new beneficial research, you know, if Twitter or anything sheds any light on how social media works, you have to believe that the news organizations are equally as corrupt. | ||
But I digress. | ||
Anyways, these Nazi members met with Congress for the reason that they want to be able to be trained by our government and receive military arms from our government. | ||
Well, and let me just pause you right there before you get to the next level of this, because a lot of people might be asking, they might not understand this fully, and they're saying, well, what do you mean Nazi? | ||
Are Nazis in Ukraine working with Nazis? | ||
How are there Nazis? | ||
And so just kind of a general answer to that question, and you expand on this as well. | ||
There were leftover groups after World War II that moved into this region of Ukraine. | ||
They've been there for decades. | ||
They've been operating as a proxy group of the CIA and MI6 and probably Mossad as well for years. | ||
They move around the region. | ||
They're used to launder and traffic arms and money. | ||
We've now seen that to levels we've never seen before. | ||
And Putin has known about this. | ||
And these groups are like, Maybe spinoffs, you might say, of like Aryan Brotherhood groups. | ||
They probably are racist. | ||
They probably are white supremacists. | ||
They probably hate Jews. | ||
And this is this group that has been hanging around out there in these circles operating for years. | ||
And they hate Russians because the Russians defeated the Nazis. | ||
And so they hate Russians. | ||
They torture Russians. | ||
They burn Orthodox Russian churches, which Zelensky has now made illegal in Ukraine, by the way. | ||
And so that's just kind of my basic understanding of the history of this group that's been around. | ||
I don't know if you want to expand on that, but I think it's important that we kind of throw that out there so people have a better idea. | ||
When you talk about Nazis in Eastern Ukraine, the Azov Battalion, that's who we're talking about. | ||
Yeah, absolutely. | ||
One militia member said that the reason why he was fighting Russia is because Putin was a Jew. | ||
Just to give you some, you know, context to what we're talking about here with this organization and how it attracts extremism. | ||
But the organization stems from a long list of 75 years of CIA proxy funding because after World War II we decided that we would fund these Nazis in order to push back against the Soviets. | ||
And as you know, that was a somewhat successful operation. | ||
What's to say that we haven't been, the organization hasn't been infiltrated. | ||
And obviously, it's still a proxy for the Pentagon because they were just in the White House. | ||
They're literally sitting in the White House while everyone's worried about YI and his counter. | ||
Well, that's where I want you to get back to. | ||
And so let's get back to that now, their involvement now. | ||
But folks, if you doubt any of this, you're crazy. | ||
In the last, what, in the last eight months, we've sent hundreds of billions to Ukraine. | ||
We found out about the money laundering operation with FTX. | ||
There's no oversight of any of it. | ||
A lot of these weapons have turned out in different countries, clearly being sold on the black market. | ||
So do not doubt that this is what's going on. | ||
And like you said, the irony of people freaking out over what Ye says, whether it's good or bad, what they're actually doing in Ukraine with the White House with known Nazi groups is a hundred times worse. | ||
So let's get back to where we're at now. | ||
Well, absolutely. | ||
And not only that, there's images of Joe Biden shaking hands with one of these Nazi leaders as a battalion. | ||
So what we're seeing is they came over to the United States. | ||
They're here to visit and try to convince Congress to give them full funding, to give them weapons and training, because in 2015, the United States and Canada, in a chance to prevent extremism over there, decided that they were no longer going to support these organizations. decided that they were no longer going to support these So that kind of has been the case. | ||
But what's crazy to me is that out of the congressional support, they received 100% support, they They took them on a little tour across America. | ||
And my question is, do you think the taxpayers funded this Nazi tour? | ||
We brought Nazis over here, you guys paid for it, and not only that, we're going to give them a tour of the United States. | ||
They actually spoke at a Ukrainian church in Detroit. | ||
You can, if you don't believe it, you can look it up. | ||
They brought them to a Ukrainian church in Detroit where they talked about everything that was going on as far as trying to get funding. | ||
And they said that they had 100% support from Congress and that they were on the phones with the lobbyists right away trying to get this passed so they can get additional support to support these legitimate Nazis. | ||
Not only that, guess where else they took him, Owen? | ||
They took him to Disneyland, huh? | ||
Remember Walt Disney? | ||
Yeah! | ||
You know, Walt Disney, the guy who brought a top Nazi director over. | ||
Hey, come on, you gotta take the eyes off Battalion down to see Disney World. | ||
I mean, you know, there's a new Star Wars ride they gotta see. | ||
Right! | ||
And not only that, think about the controversial past with Walt Disney and him bringing one of the top Nazi Directors to Disney World immediately after the Kristallnacht, which is an event where they went and burnt a bunch of synagogues down. | ||
Yeah, and that was part of World War II, what the Nazis were doing, Kristallnacht. | ||
Very important day that many people don't know about. | ||
But yeah, there's another one. | ||
Jon Stewart honors Azov Battalion at Pentagon-funded Disney World event. | ||
And you know, the funny thing is too, who knows who really, you know, when they're inviting these people, most of the individuals involved in this process are probably ignorant to everything, but then they find out the hard way. | ||
I'm sure you heard, or saw even, There it is right there, that was the guy. | ||
When he showed up to get this award, they had to put arm sleeves because he had arm sleeve tattoos of Nazi logos and swastikas and they said, oh my gosh, we gotta give this guy a long sleeve t-shirt, he's got Nazi swastikas on his arm. | ||
Yeah he had the black sun right there on his elbow tattooed on his arm and they were trying to pass it off that these are just symbols and they don't mean what you think they mean. | ||
We just embrace them because we need symbols because we are a battalion. | ||
Which is how funny is that? | ||
How funny is that? | ||
Because there's actually an element of truth to that. | ||
These logos go back thousands of years before the Nazis, so there is an element of truth. | ||
But how ironic that that same logic doesn't apply to Ye when he shares images that aren't even Nazi swastikas. | ||
Well, and that's the idea. | ||
They want you to talk about a certain type of ideology, but they don't want you to see what the government is doing. | ||
And the government is literally supporting Nazis while they're keeping everyone dancing in the circus over Ye's statement and trying to paint anyone that associates with Christianity or any other ideology as anti-Semitic. | ||
And no, people are just trying to defend the First Amendment. | ||
That's what it really comes down to. | ||
Don't confuse protecting the First Amendment with anti-Semitism. | ||
Just because somebody says something, Owen, for the listeners out there, that doesn't mean you have to agree with them. | ||
That doesn't mean that you have to like what they say. | ||
But just because you gave them a platform to understand or have a debate or so people would have a better understanding of what something is about, that's what researchers do. | ||
We have those conversations. | ||
You need to have those conversations to make the best decisions in your life. | ||
The more data, the better information you have, the better decisions you can make. | ||
The problem is the censorship. | ||
They want to censor everything and, oh, look at this, what he says. | ||
It's controversial. | ||
Did Nazis die? | ||
He's a Nazi Holocaust denier. | ||
And never mind the fact that we're literally funding Nazis, there's now links to Israel. | ||
There's literally a civil rights group in Israel that has petitioned the government because they're funding Nazis. | ||
Who would have thought that Jewish people are funding Nazis? | ||
Literally, Igor Klamoisky is funding a lot of these Nazi organizations. | ||
He's Jewish. | ||
He invested in Zelensky's campaign, go figure. | ||
And then everyone's like, well, you know, they use it as a thought-terminating cliche. | ||
Zelensky's Jewish? | ||
Of course he couldn't be supporting Nazis. | ||
That wouldn't make sense. | ||
You know, and people don't think that there's an opportunity that sleazy people that are not really interested in their heritage, they're not supportive of their religious beliefs and are there for the power and the government structure. | ||
Yeah, I mean who knows? | ||
Who knows where the hundreds of billions of dollars went? | ||
what we're seeing there's rich people out there that are really doing this in israel not only that the pentagon was part of the people that rewarded them and took them to disneyland probably with your taxpayer dollars if you can believe that yeah i mean who knows who knows where the hundreds of billions of dollars went some of them had got a nice trip to disney world but you know here's to kind of again let's kind of give the bigger picture of | ||
People have known about CIA proxy groups that operate in the Middle East and they move about whether they need to operate them in Syria or Afghanistan or Iraq. | ||
It just depends on what the operation is at the time, where the big story on an oil drilling or oil pipeline is going to go. | ||
And so they use these groups And we've known about these in the Middle East because that's where the never-ending wars have been, and that's where independent journalists have been focused, and that's where we've gotten good information from people like Julian Assange, who Elon Musk, I think, wants to see pardoned, but we'll have that discussion later. | ||
So people don't understand though, this Azov battalion group is basically the same thing. | ||
They have their own ideologies, but the reason why they're operating in this region of Ukraine is because It is important for pipeline access through Europe, it is important for that going through Ukraine, and I think more importantly, they want that access to the Black Sea. | ||
And so they've been using the Azov Battalion as kind of this power structure there, kind of this group to kind of operate in there, intimidate the locals, let Ukraine and the globalists use that region. | ||
And now Russia has come in and move them out. | ||
And that's really what it is. | ||
So now Russia is controlling access to the Black Sea. | ||
And Russia is controlling the grain and the harvest that comes out of that region. | ||
And Russia is now controlling the development of the pipelines and the flow of oil between Russia and Europe. | ||
And that's what's really driving the globalists nuts. | ||
And so we can say, hey, look, they're funding Nazis, this Azov Battalion group, whatever. | ||
They're laundering hundreds of billions of dollars. | ||
Look at FTX. | ||
Look at SBF. | ||
They're getting away with it. | ||
They're funneling the money back to ourselves. | ||
But in the larger geopolitical issue, that's what I see going on here, is that it's just another CIA Western-backed proxy group trying to use them as control of a region as a leverage over the international power structure. | ||
Yeah, and the government has no problem funding and implementing, you know, going after support for Nazis, and neither does Israel, but yet they can spend all day rebuking Kanye, the artist formerly known as Kanye West. | ||
And even Joe Biden can come out and say, hey, I, you know, refute this and Holocaust denier. | ||
Everybody, everybody and their mother was disavowing, yeah. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
But yet there's pictures of Biden shaking hands with Nazis and they were just at the White House and we're taking them to churches and to Disneyland, you know, with taxpayer dollars most likely. | ||
And nobody wants to talk about it. | ||
Nobody cares. | ||
That's not important. | ||
What's important is that Ye is a Holocaust denier, which is completely wild to me that nobody's up in arms. | ||
None of these same, the hypocrisy, the cognitive dissonance, the way they program people to be so easily switched on and off. | ||
I wish people would learn how to think for themselves. | ||
And a lot of this information needs to be jammed down, culture jammed down people's throat so they understand that we're being lied to. | ||
They're literally using this as a smoke screen. | ||
while the, as a battalion, even auctioned off The entire front of media, alternative media, left, right, everybody disavowing everything Kanye said. | ||
dollars to individuals to help support you know Nazis over in Ukraine yeah it really was amazing though the entire the entire front of media alternative media left right everybody disavowing everything Kanye said barely a scintilla of the focus that's done to the actual groups in Ukraine and you know we kind of fall into this trap where we just use this nomenclature of Nazi We call everybody Nazi. | ||
I mean, it's the Azov Battalion. | ||
It's basically a one-off of the Nazi group. | ||
I don't know if they would consider themselves Nazis, but it's a one-off. | ||
It's a spin-off of the Nazi group. | ||
That's why they still embrace their symbolism. | ||
That's why they still tattoo it. | ||
That's why they still do some of the logos and some of the salutes. | ||
But it's like, okay, yay is so bad, when are you gonna focus on them funding actual... | ||
Nazi one-off groups that are torturing people, torturing Russian soldiers. | ||
They've been torturing the local people there in eastern Ukraine for years. | ||
Where do you think it goes? | ||
Where do you think it goes from here, though? | ||
Because I see the Biden administration starting to back off. | ||
I think Zelensky knows that at this point that Russia has done what they want. | ||
The best thing for Ukraine to do would just be to say, OK, we've operated as a Western front group, Western group for a while now. | ||
Russians won war in this region. | ||
Unless you guys want war with Russia, we're going to have to back off. | ||
They've already laundered the hundreds of billions of dollars and all the weapons. | ||
Where do you think this war in Ukraine goes now? | ||
I see them starting to draw back on it and basically having to admit defeat to Russia. | ||
Though they'll spin it, that's the way I see it going. | ||
Well, yeah, they'll definitely spin it as a victory of some sort that they defended and held off, you know, Russia while Russia ended up getting in majority what they wanted. | ||
But I do feel that when it comes to war, there are no winners. | ||
First of all, I don't support support Russia. | ||
I don't support Ukraine. | ||
I don't support Nazis. | ||
I don't support violence in general for the most part. | ||
And in this scenario, there are no real winners. | ||
But I think that when we heard about Ukraine petitioning and talking to Joe Biden and Joe Biden saying, I'll talk to Russia, it sure makes a lot of sense when you start to realize that really these Azov battalion and these Nazi organizations like the Nazi Organization of United Nationalists in Ukraine, which literally was responsible for murdering Jews and doing the Nazis hard work. | ||
They had a celebration with 20,000 people in 2017 and no one even talked about it. | ||
20,000 Nazis! | ||
That's a lot of Nazis they have over there. | ||
It's just wild to me that we're not getting that coverage, but I do feel the answer to your question is that Russia comes out on top, like most of us that have been giving the real information, not the Snake Island BS or Miss Ukraine, you know, fighting, you know, Russians BS. | ||
The people have really dived in and have experience, understanding and sorting through the propaganda. | ||
Russia is going to come out on top. | ||
The question is, is what is the globalist next playbook? | ||
We saw them trying to set up a honeypot with Taiwan and China. | ||
What's to say that that also is not still in the deck of cards? | ||
Look what's going on in China. | ||
There's a lot of things going on all across the world. | ||
And I'm going to tell you, I don't feel like this is the end of this. | ||
I think that this is going to continue to go on for quite some time. | ||
Well, if the U.S. looks... | ||
leadership was smart, which we all know it's not, they would be fortifying a stance on Taiwan right now with the Chinese Communist reeling after the protests shutting down those lockdowns. | ||
But yeah, a lot of moving parts in the geopolitical shakeup that we're seeing. | ||
And sadly, the U.S. | ||
with the Biden administration is just falling as low man on the totem pole with all of these different developments. | ||
We're no longer lead man on the totem pole, folks. | ||
We are just We are just low man on the totem pole internationally now thanks to the disrespect the international community has towards Joe Biden. | ||
But yeah, do you agree with just a couple minutes left here with you that the U.S. | ||
foreign policy should now be focusing on Taiwan with the Chinese communist reeling to really establish a precedent there? | ||
Because I agree, whatever ends up happening with the Chinese communists and their own people rising up against the lockdowns, The Chinese, I do believe, have a plan to move into Taiwan, and they view the West as weak right now. | ||
And so I think they're watching what's happening in Ukraine, hoping the U.S. | ||
stays focused on that. | ||
The next time the U.S. | ||
shows a commitment focused to Ukraine, I think that's when the Chinese might decide, we're going to focus on Taiwan, maybe even move in. | ||
Well, when we're talking about the whole global mafia state, as George Soros described it in Davos in 2017, what I really see is kind of what you were describing. | ||
First of all, dividing and conquering and creating the United States, or giving the United States so much involvement that spreads them thin, gives China more ability to spread amongst America, buy American property and everything else. | ||
Keep that in mind. | ||
And not only that, when we talk about the term, the new world order, there used to be a multiple different, like influences that were struggling for power. | ||
Russia, China, and it's undoubtedly the Donald Trump America that we saw was all different ideologies that were trying to take control of what everyone is starting to describe as the New World Order and that many researchers for years coined as a potential danger into global government by these global mafia states. | ||
So I see that there's going to be a big power struggle, first of all. | ||
We have Russia and China, but I see the United States being the focal point as we ourselves have been slowly been getting and diving into being divided and conquered as we spread ourselves thin across multiple other nations. | ||
We're nation building. | ||
We're getting involved in Taiwan. | ||
We're getting involved in Ukraine. | ||
In reality, we shouldn't be involved in any of them. | ||
It's none of our business. | ||
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We're going to be playing an expert breakdown We're going to be playing an expert breakdown from Glenn Greenwald in response to Elon Musk and Ye and the issue of censorship on the internet. | ||
So that's going to be coming up in the final segment for today. | ||
And I am also waiting to get my next guest on that we're going to be discussing the phenomenon of Kevin McCarthy as the Speaker of the House, or if there's any way we can stop that from happening. | ||
In the meantime, you guys can let me know when that's ready to go. | ||
Here's just some of the news that they ignore. | ||
That happens in Democrat-run cities, but they want to act like you're the bad guy for having a gun when all the violent crime is, well, we know where, gun-free zones. | ||
L.A. | ||
County District Attorney takes keen interest in John Legend car theft case. | ||
Prosecutor calls it an insult to crime victims. | ||
Yeah, all kinds of actual violent crime victims all over L.A., and many of them criminals that get released, but the D.A. | ||
Is working directly with John Legend to make sure that John Legend is taken care of. | ||
Wasn't Johnny, old Johnny, there at the White House for an event recently? | ||
You know him and Obama are good friends, right? | ||
You know, they know each other very, very well. | ||
Very intimately. | ||
So that's going on. | ||
It's nice to be a Democrat liberal. | ||
Democrat liberal privilege. | ||
Democrat liberal celebrity privilege. | ||
We know it. | ||
Man who punched Asian woman more than 100 times. | ||
Sentenced to 17 and a half years in prison. | ||
What happened to stop Asian hate crimes? | ||
Well, you don't hear about that anymore because they weren't being done by white people. | ||
And so no longer is the media concerned about issues and stories like that. | ||
Over a hundred times, though. | ||
What does that sound like? | ||
Sounds like hate to me. | ||
61-year-old Good Samaritan fatally stabbed allegedly at the hands of a convicted felon free from jail on PR bond. | ||
No, that was the case. | ||
You know, because they like to show how non-racist they are, so they release people from jail, and then they go out and stab and kill and beat people again. | ||
Thank you, Democrats. | ||
And it's so bad in Philly, and I've got footage of some of the stuff. | ||
I'm not going to air it here because the guest is ready. | ||
Philadelphia City Council approves permanent 10 p.m. | ||
curfew. | ||
10 p.m. | ||
curfew in Philly if you are 17 years old and younger. | ||
Because it's that violent out there. | ||
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It's that bad out there. | |
The saga of the puppy kink energy waste from the energy department, nuclear energy waste, Sam Brenton story continues. | ||
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This is just... I tell you. | |
Biden's married non-binary nuclear waste guru who stole woman's $2,400 bag from airport Hosted spanking seminar at kink conference just weeks later under nuclear nerd nickname that's still in use on fetish hookup website. | ||
Sam Britton, a high-ranking official in Biden's Department of Energy, admitted in October to stealing a woman's suitcase from an airport. | ||
It's been revealed that Britton was in Minnesota to speak at an LGBT college student conference at an engineering event because, you know, it's gay sex is intertwined with engineering now when you're a Democrat. | ||
And so it wasn't just that he stole a bag during that flight. | ||
The entire trip was to do a spanking seminar at a kink conference. | ||
I mean, what? | ||
Okay. | ||
Hey, what are you doing this weekend? | ||
Oh, I'm going to a kink conference to teach people how to spank. | ||
Sounds good. | ||
You must work for the Biden administration. | ||
Sure do. | ||
Top guy. | ||
Nuclear waste. | ||
That's what I do. | ||
Oink, oink, bark, bark. | ||
Wee! | ||
Oh, whoa, okay. | ||
All right, that's enough. | ||
That's good. | ||
We've had our fun. | ||
Sam Britton, energy department, kinkhead, puppy play, likes puppy play. | ||
Maybe him and Kanye would get along. | ||
Kanye shows up in the gimp mask, and maybe Sam Britton gives him a little rub down. | ||
I'm just trying to get everybody along here, folks. | ||
Maybe that's our entry point, is Britton invites Ye on with the gimp mask, invites Ye to the White House with the gimp mask, saying, hey, I'm into that. | ||
I'm into that. | ||
All right. | ||
Ivan Rankin joins me now, and he believes that there is a path to get McCarthy removed from the House Speaker role. | ||
I have to tell you, I believe that is an uphill battle, but I'm willing to hear you out. | ||
Ivan, you think you've got the plan. | ||
Let's hear it. | ||
Yeah, I only do uphill battles, as you know. | ||
Yeah, I guess that's true. | ||
You just climb uphill. | ||
All you do is climb uphill. | ||
Actually, you scale complete vertical climbs, actually. | ||
Reverse incline. | ||
Yeah, that's probably more accurate. | ||
Straight up's too easy. | ||
Yep. | ||
Alright, so check this out. | ||
Basically, the Speaker of the House, it's not a done deal, and I think a lot of people are starting to realize that. | ||
So, a couple weeks ago, we had a vote, and it was 188 to 31. | ||
188 for McCarthy, 31 against. | ||
Problem for McCarthy is that you need 218 votes in order to be the Speaker of the House. | ||
The numbers just don't add up to him. | ||
And he's realizing that the growing anti-McCarthy crowd is only increasing in resolve and increasing in number. | ||
And I can go through the kind of the numbers of what that looks like right now. | ||
So right now it's 221 members of the House are Republican, are expected to get 222. | ||
So if five members in the Republican conference decide to block McCarthy, they're able to do so. | ||
It's essentially a veto because then he would only have 217. | ||
Now, there's way more than that. | ||
Other than folks such as, and I'm going to take a look at my notes here real quick, Matt Gates of Florida, Ralph Norman of South Carolina, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Bob Good of Virginia, and Matt Rosendale of Montana are the five that have been publicly vocal, saying that they are hard, full stop, hard no's against McCarthy, meaning that they have the ability to block him from becoming speaker. | ||
In addition to that, Andy Biggs has said on a podcast a couple days ago that there are actually 20 hard no's, And then if you incorporate the ones that voted a couple weeks ago within the conference, you had 31 that voted for Andy Biggs. | ||
And you had five in addition to those 31 that voted for someone else. | ||
I'm wondering who that someone else is. | ||
But it's not McCarthy. | ||
It's not McCarthy. | ||
And the someone else, I'm guessing it's probably President Trump. | ||
And the reason why I say that is because just recently National File broke a video with an article that discusses how the gentleman from South Carolina, I believe it was Ralph Norman, | ||
That stated, and it was an interview on Real America's Voice, if I'm not mistaken, talking about how if it plays out how they plan on doing it, it is going to be an interesting fight as they take it to the House floor on January, there you go, January 3rd, when the actual vote for Speaker happens. | ||
So here's what's going on on the left, the Uniparty, and then on the America First Right. | ||
On the very left, they basically want Kevin McCarthy, according to, what's his name, Clyburn, earlier today on a Sunday talk show, mentioned that he would be willing, if Kevin McCarthy asked the Democrat Party, the Hakeem Jeffries, who's now considered the, he was just voted in as the leader of the Democrat Party, if Kevin McCarthy approached them asking for votes, as long as that there was some sort of a deal. | ||
That's an absolute full stop note for me and those other folks that are in the America First camp. | ||
Isn't that the play right now? | ||
That's the play from the Democrats and the swamp Republicans is that they're basically threatening the true conservative American First Republicans by saying, look, if you try to stop this McCarthy speakership, we're going to work with the Democrats. | ||
And essentially, they've already declared, the weird game they've already played is that they've already declared that Hakeem Jeffries is actually the Speaker of the House. | ||
I mean, that's what they're saying. | ||
They're already saying Hakeem Jeffries... No, not the Speaker. | ||
They're saying that he's the Democrat leader. | ||
No, no, no, I know that, but I'm saying they're basically, but you know that they're posturing this like, even though Republicans are going to have the gavel, they're actually saying that Jeffries will be the real leader. | ||
McCarthy will just kind of be the placeholder. | ||
Well, the reason why they're probably saying that is because Kevin McCarthy is so compromised. | ||
I mean, we're looking at, if you go back to 2015, I believe, when he was vying for speakership, he had to step aside because he has some issues in his closet. | ||
Particularly extramarital affairs. | ||
And that was put out there, but I can't remember. | ||
There was a letter written by one of the Congress members at the time that basically called on, if there's anybody that's vying for speakership that has some sort of transgressions, immoralities in their background, they do not need to be a candidate for the speaker position. | ||
So not only does Kevin McCarthy has that as a potential leverage point for blackmail, not only for the other party, but also for foreign interests, But he also has other counterintelligence threats that are going to be disclosed over the coming days. | ||
Just keep an eye on National File. | ||
We'll be breaking that. | ||
We're doing a dossier, essentially taking the Director of National Intelligence's adjudicative guidelines as they use to basically bring on and provide a security clearance for government civil servants. | ||
So using those 13 adjudicative guidelines, at a minimum, Kevin McCarthy does not meet the requirements for four of those 13. | ||
Outside activities, foreign influence, as well as I mean, look, I hope it has impact, but we both know that that's probably unaffectual at the end of the day. | ||
So let's get back to where you were, though. | ||
So, OK, obviously the Swamp wants McCarthy. | ||
The Democrats want McCarthy because they can run him over. | ||
He's been useless for the last two years. | ||
I don't know how that's going to change now. | ||
It seems the opposition is Biggs and Gates, and then you said they put five votes in for an unknown. | ||
You're assuming that's Trump. | ||
We don't know for sure. | ||
So where does that stand, though? | ||
Yeah, so just to respond to your blackmailing, and I love you brother, just to respond to that. | ||
What have we seen over the last month since the election? | ||
We went from fully Kevin McCarthy is going to be the next Speaker of the House to what do we do? | ||
Phase one was essentially we needed to prove to the American public that you do not have to be a sitting member of Congress in order to be the Speaker of the House. | ||
We had Liz Cheney and Jamie Raskin saying that there could be a scenario on January 3rd That it's possible that President Trump could become the Speaker of the House. | ||
So we passed that first phase that, you know, it can be somebody outside of Congress. | ||
You don't have to be a sitting member of Congress. | ||
So that, a lot of people said you couldn't, but now obviously everybody sees that that's the case in the mainstream. | ||
Phase two, we moved on to getting that five members in order to be able to block McCarthy, which we've already surpassed. | ||
Phase three was essentially getting enough over the five members in order to have a buffer to be able to block McCarthy in the event that some Democrats were able to flip and support McCarthy. | ||
Now, if it's a slim margin and there's only five that are anti-McCarthy, then yeah, you're probably going to identify five Democrats that are in safe seats to be able to do that. | ||
But as that number grows into the 20s and 30s, you're going to find it very difficult to find 20 to 30 Democrats that are going to be willing to put their careers on on the line to vote for Kevin McCarthy. | ||
That's where it starts to get interesting. | ||
And so phase four is the following, and I get it, you don't agree with me, but once we start to showcase how weak Kevin McCarthy is, | ||
All the FDX money that he's brought in, you're going to start to see, once we educate the rest of the Republican conference of his transgressions, not only personal transgressions, but also all of the FDX-laden money that was sent over to McCarthy and McCarthy-owned PACs to go after folks like Laura Loomer in their primaries, as well as Joe Kent in the primary, as well as the general election. | ||
He spent $13 million And two and a half million of that was from FDX money to go after America First candidates. | ||
As we educate the country, and as we educate those members of the House, Freedom Caucus, and beyond, that is what occurred, they're not going to be able to withstand the pressure and barrage from us. | ||
Because granted, you guys had 26 million viewers at one pop when you had that EA interview. | ||
America is watching InfoWars at a level 5X the mainstream media prime time. | ||
Combined, Owen. | ||
That is going to be the pressure that we're going to be able to create to make sure that Kevin McCarthy removes his candidacy as Speaker because he will not have the support. | ||
And that's where we're going to have a serious discussion on who should be the Speaker of the House. | ||
And I argue that it needs to be somebody that has courage. | ||
It needs to be somebody that has been investigated fully, and there's nothing in their background that could be used against them to be used as blackmail by the Democrats, by the rhinos, and then by any other foreign interest. | ||
And that number one candidate in that instance is going to be President Trump, full stop. | ||
Well, and just so people understand, when he talks about me blackpilling or disagreeing, we've just had talks off air where I'm just basically doubting that this whole thing is going to go down. | ||
I think McCarthy is going to get in. | ||
There might be some resistance. | ||
Of course, I don't want McCarthy in. | ||
He was ineffectual for the last two years. | ||
Why would he change that stance given power? | ||
I think he's just going to be another squish that the Democrats are going to walk all over. | ||
Now it's been Biggs, Andy Biggs, and Matt Gaetz. | ||
Yeah, he's totally squished. | ||
Oh yeah, McCarthy's a total squish. | ||
Doesn't he hang out with Frank Luntz, too? | ||
Does he hang out in the Frank Luntz bunk beds? | ||
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. | ||
He hangs out with Frank Luntz. | ||
He lives in, I think, Frank Luntz's apartment in Washington, D.C. | ||
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If we can remember back to, remember when Lizzy Cheney had a conversation with him and she recorded it and then played it before the Mike Pence J6 cover-up committee? | ||
It was basically, he's in a position where he has to basically say, oh please Lizzy, tell me what you want so that I can have the speakers gavel. | ||
I'll do anything you want. | ||
And Nancy Pelosi, same thing goes for you. | ||
So he's already in that camp. | ||
It is unacceptable for anybody to consider somebody to be a leader of any organization that has so many transgressions, that is leveraged by the enemy in such a fashion. | ||
It is unacceptable, especially the performance during the midterms. | ||
I get it. | ||
President Trump supposedly endorsed him the day of the election, but that was before the results came out. | ||
Now that we know the results and now we know more details about where the FTX money went to go after President Trump endorsed Joe Kent, to go after others that were endorsed by President Trump, to find out that Kevin McCarthy was the one that was behind it and backing it financially, to squarely go in direct contravention to the America First to squarely go in direct contravention to the America First agenda. | ||
That's something that needs to be presented to President Trump for him to reconsider his support for Kevin McCarthy and to step into the breach himself in order to take a role in making sure that, one, he's going to be, if he becomes Speaker of the House, President Trump that is, he gets to get full immunity and go on absolute law fence against he gets to get full immunity and go on absolute law fence against Against the DOJ, the FBI. | ||
Go ahead and release the 14,000 hours of tape with his selected sergeant at arms so that he can have some level of control over the Capitol Police Board. | ||
Investigate the totality of January 6th to include Kevin McCarthy's role in facilitating that unlawful entrapment that occurred on January 6th. | ||
And I know you were outside the Capitol, so I mean, I'm sure you would be interested in getting to the full story of what happened On January 6th, because it's going to implicate Pelosi, it's going to implicate Pence, it's going to implicate Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, the D.C. | ||
Mayor, the Chief of Police in Washington, D.C., the Secret Service agents that were with Mike Pence, the parliamentarian is to be also charged with a crime, because I've done the investigations on a lot of this stuff that many people have not. | ||
And I just think that the only way for us to get out of this constitutional crisis is to have somebody in there with a brass pair, somebody that's courageous, bold enough to say, you know what, we're in a position where the CCP has leveraged one party in totality and a good portion of another political party in the United States, and we need to get out of this mess. | ||
And one way to do that right now is with a Speaker Trump, which will, I argue, needs to be a speaker temporarily, as he builds the case before the American public on C-SPAN's one, two, and three, uncensored, to go ahead and showcase his reinstatement. | ||
So he's... | ||
Elon has already reinstated him on Twitter, and I think uncensored on C-spans 1, 2, and 3, he's gonna be able to rebut. | ||
Well look, that's a nice... 24-7. | ||
That's a nice pipe dream. | ||
That's a nice fairy tale narrative of Trump coming back. | ||
But what interest? | ||
I mean, Trump hasn't expressed any interest. | ||
I haven't heard Trump expressing any interest. | ||
How is he going to be Speaker of the House and run for President at the same time? | ||
I just don't see that happening. | ||
There's nothing in the law that precludes that. | ||
So, you had a congressman... Well, it might not be anything in the law, but I mean, to run for President and be Speaker of the House, I don't really see how that works. | ||
I'll explain it. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
So my kind of play and plan here is that he becomes the Speaker of the House for several weeks at a minimum and maybe a little bit longer depending on how this plays out. | ||
So with the key goals to do the following, you create basically five committees. | ||
One to investigate all of the EUA products and essentially claim it and call it the Nuremberg 2.0 Commission, right? | ||
And we're going to get to the bottom of what happened from Mike Pence and Jared Kushner when they were at the helm of the COVID task force, all the way down to school board members throughout the country that implemented policies that mandated these emergency use authorized products, right? | ||
Number two, actually get to the full story and totality of what happened on November 3rd of 2020, as well as January 6th, right? | ||
Then we go into big tech censorship and reinstating our First Amendment. | ||
Those are some of the things that I think can happen fairly quickly as we go through those investigations, showcase that, and then do criminal referrals on everybody that had been investigated in the court of public opinion so that people can see and then be basically snapped out of the trance of the last two years of censorship. | ||
While that's going on, You also have committees that are working on the nullification of the first impeachment, the second impeachment, and then filing criminal charges and potentially censuring those impeachment managers that were complicit in an absolutely illegally conducted impeachment. | ||
Because they didn't even allege a crime in Impeachment Hoax 1, and Impeachment Hoax 2 was what? | ||
Eric Caramella concocted some sort of a claimed charge. | ||
We need to go after them as well as their attorneys. | ||
Just like they've been going after us, but at a level of 10x. | ||
If you don't want to do that, that's great. | ||
That's more work for me. | ||
I'm going to keep pushing for it. | ||
I don't know what else to say. | ||
And then the state, I think that'll be the impetus for states like Arizona when they seek their new legislature to go ahead and finally take the bold step of reclaiming their electors after all this information has been put out, particularly in light of what Elon Musk just released over the last couple of days. | ||
And I think he's going to continue to showcase not only the FBI's involvement in censoring and politically targeting folks, For one particular component that we just found out the last couple days, but also as it relates to the COVID measures, the election interference times 10. | ||
So I say stay tuned, and we have 30 days remaining to essentially, that's a lifetime in the political ecosystem, to go ahead and politically annihilate Kevin McCarthy, which will pave the way to somebody that has the brass pair necessary to become the Speaker of the House. | ||
Well here's the understanding, and I will give Elon Musk credit because I think he has this approach and understanding, I'm not sure how much of this understanding that Trump had, maybe he would now, that basically on this path that we're on, in this mission that we're on to save America as we see it, to save the Republic as we see it, to save the Constitution as we see it, to save the future as we see it, the understanding has to be that | ||
When you go into this swamp or you go into this lion's den, whatever you want to call it, you're going to take the bows, you're going to take the arrows, you're going to take the stabbings and the shootings, and at any point in time in that process, you can't hit pause. | ||
You can't hit pause and say, hey, what's going on? | ||
This arrow coming at me over here. | ||
Hey, hit pause. | ||
What's going on? | ||
This person's stabbing me in the back. | ||
Hey, what's going on? | ||
It just started storming. | ||
You gotta keep going forward, and to me, I look at COVID as the perfect test case for this. | ||
Trump got stalled by COVID, he let COVID derail him, he let COVID derail his presidency, he let COVID derail his re-election, and he needed to understand that this is just part of the storm, I've gotta keep going forward. | ||
I have to ignore the noise, I have to ignore the attacks, and that's what it's gonna take. | ||
When you talk about whoever it is that's Speaker of the House, whether it's the fairytale story of Trump, Jared Kushner were the ones that were pushing for those policies that destroyed our economy, that destroyed absolutely any semblance of lawful constitutional conduct within our nation. | ||
Remember, they were the two that headed up the CCP-19 task force, with Mikey Pence yelling, Me, Mr. President, so I can provide the necessary top cover to all the institutions within the executive branch and the governors. | ||
Remember, he was coordinating the CCP-19 task force with the governors on who was going to get what contract to be able to distribute these emergency use authorized products, to be able to bring in massive amounts of money and capital that on the other side of it They would basically respond in kind to him by offering him the 2024 presidency. | ||
And as it stands right now, Mikey Pence has his people in place to guarantee that he has 275 electoral votes. | ||
And I give the detailed path on what that looks like on my sub stack, why he has already secured 275 electoral votes. | ||
Well, that's hilarious. | ||
If Pence falls for that, he's an idiot. | ||
Pence? | ||
Yes. | ||
If Pence thinks they're going to give him the presidency if he cooperates in getting Trump out, he's a moron. | ||
They're not going to give him the White House. | ||
I don't care if he destroys Trump, they're not going to give him the White House. | ||
They'll give Hillary the White House before Pence. | ||
Well, I don't know about that. | ||
If you look at 232 electoral votes as being the baseline for somebody with the pulse, with an R by it, and then from that you extrapolate what has happened over the last few years, you put into the mix Virginia, because Youngkin is basically the No, Republican is not getting Georgia's electoral votes unless the voter fraud issue is concerned there. | ||
Then when you look at New Hampshire with Sununa's four electoral votes, that's going to go to Pence. | ||
When you look at Brian Kemp over in Georgia, those are 16 electoral votes that go to Pence. | ||
No, Republican is not getting Georgia's electoral votes unless the voter fraud issue is concerned there. | ||
That's never going to happen again. | ||
Well, when you have the governor and the secretary of state down there that are endorsed by Mikey Pence, I don't see how the Republicans win the presidency unless they address Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia. | ||
There's no path to a Republican victory unless they address the voter fraud, the ballot harvesting in those states. | ||
I just look at it like this. | ||
I don't see how the Republicans win the presidency unless they address Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia. | ||
There's no path to a Republican victory unless they address the voter fraud, the ballot harvesting in those states. | ||
I don't see any path. | ||
No, no. | ||
It's a selection process, and it goes by the electoral vote. | ||
Whoever controls the legislature, I should say the electoral system in those states, that's who gets those electoral votes. | ||
And considering that some of those states are anti-Trump, he's not going to make it through the primary. | ||
I hate to say this. | ||
Unless we crack Arizona right now, I don't see a path for President Trump. | ||
But I do see a viable, absolutely, almost guaranteed path for Pence because he doesn't need Arizona, he doesn't need Pennsylvania, he doesn't need Maryland. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Yeah, and you laid it out. | ||
Pence is literally just running to get Trump out. | ||
All right, Ivan, good stuff, good, healthy debate. | ||
We both may disagree on this issue. | ||
And sadly, this is like the only debate you have. | ||
Like, me and Ivan actually agree on everything. | ||
We just maybe see these things differently. | ||
So it's nice to actually have maybe a little bit A little bit of a debate. | ||
We'll call it a debate. | ||
It's not really a debate. | ||
We just kind of see it differently here. | ||
Ivan Reikland, thank you for joining us so much. | ||
All right, ladies and gentlemen, big stuff coming up on the other side. | ||
Don't go anywhere. | ||
All right, we're about to go to Glenn Greenwald here on the issue of free speech. | ||
And of course, one of the issues that Glenn was highlighting a long time ago as a true classical liberal Was the issue of Julian Assange and Edward Snowden as advocates of free speech and transparency. | ||
And Elon Musk put out a poll, I don't know where it sits as of now, but it was at about a million and a half last I saw. | ||
Should Julian Assange and Edward Snowden be pardoned? | ||
Over 80% saying yes to that poll. | ||
And so why doesn't our government give us fair representation here? | ||
How does Elon Musk give us more transparency and fair representation than our own government? | ||
Mr. 80% free speech Elon Musk. | ||
So, uh, the vast majority of Americans want to see those individuals pardoned for sure. | ||
For sure. | ||
The deep state doesn't. | ||
And I guess the modern day brainwashed left doesn't. | ||
But, uh, What are we at now? | ||
Wow, we are at almost 3.5 million votes, still standing just over 80%, says a lot. | ||
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So, for the rest of the evening, we go to a powerful Glenn Greenwald segment as he's addressing the free speech issue with Twitter and censorship and everything else the great Glenn Greenwald takes it away. | ||
Last night, new Twitter owner Elon Musk personally made the decision to ban Kanye West from Twitter after West had spent the day on Alex Jones' program saying things like, I like Hitler, and pointing out the many things he apparently admires about Nazis. | ||
After he was done with Jones' show, West posted this symbol to his Twitter account with 33 million followers. | ||
It appears to combine the Nazi swastika with the Star of David. | ||
Shortly thereafter, Musk told Wes, both on Twitter and by personal text, that he had gone, quote, too far, and Kanye was then locked out of his Twitter account at some point last night, even though the account itself remains up. | ||
Both before and after Musk purchased Twitter, he repeatedly proclaimed himself to be, in his words, a free speech absolutist, | ||
One such instance was when he was explaining why he rejected pressure from various powerful sectors to block Russian news sources such as RT from inclusion in SpaceX's Starlink satellite, a position similar to the one that this very platform, Rumble, took when it was pressured by many of the same state and journalistic sources to remove RT and Sputnik from its platform. | ||
And that's why RT continues to be found here on Rumble today, even though it's now illegal Under EU law to platform that news site. | ||
Now, it's very easy for someone to define themselves as a, quote, free speech absolutist. | ||
Many people love to wear that cape. | ||
It's glorifying and it signals a lot about who the person is. | ||
But, like any political slogan, it requires concrete definition, lest it be nothing more than an empty and meaningless signifier of virtue. | ||
Given that everyone wants and expects Twitter to prohibit at least some content, child pornography, doxing, commercial spam, what does it mean to declare oneself, in this context, to be a free speech absolutist? | ||
For me, free speech absolutism, a term I claim for myself as well, means allowing any and every political viewpoint to be heard. | ||
It is of course acceptable to ban certain kinds of verbal expression that does not qualify as political viewpoint, such as defamation, or fraud, or direct threats of violence made person-to-person to an individual. | ||
But free speech, to me, means that every political opinion, even the most repugnant and horrifying, in fact, I would say especially the most repugnant and horrifying, is free to be expressed, and that no centralized authority is empowered to ban or punish its expression. | ||
Unlike most people who apply this term to themselves, Musk, to his credit, has defined what he means by it. | ||
He wrote back in April, quote, by free speech, I simply mean that which matches the law, that which matches the law. | ||
I am against censorship that goes far beyond the law. | ||
If people want less free speech, they will ask their government to pass laws to that effect. | ||
Therefore, going beyond the law while censoring is contrary to the will of the people. | ||
In other words, By free speech absolutism, Musk said he would only ban content which could be or has been made illegal by the government. | ||
So, for example, child pornography and fraud can be banned since that has been made criminal by the government. | ||
But expressing arguably racist and homophobic views, harshly criticizing Israel or even Jews, disagreeing with the gender ideology, that cannot be banned on Twitter, according to Musk, because the law does not prohibit its expression. | ||
Agree with that or not, that's a coherent and easy to understand standard for how Musk said he intends to govern Twitter. | ||
Now, whether Musk realizes it or not, this is not the standard that he is now using for determining what is and is not permitted on Twitter. | ||
Over the last week, there have been numerous instances in which several liberal left accounts, including a Media Matters goon and some people affiliated with Antifa, had their accounts suspended despite the fact that their offending tweets could not reasonably be interpreted as illegal. | ||
The account of the Media Matters operative was quickly restored without comment when liberals complained, but others remained banned. | ||
Elon Musk's prior refusal to reinstate the account of Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes, which were accounts that had been banned under the old Twitter regime, had already raised valid doubts about whether Musk really was prepared to live up to the free speech principles he espoused. | ||
Fuentes has never been found by a court to have violated the law for things he said, and while Alex Jones was successfully sued in a civil court by the parents of Sandy Hook students, that was not a criminal conviction, nor was it for things that he said or did on Twitter. | ||
Unless Musk is prepared to ban everyone with a criminal record, or has ever been successfully sued for defamation, this refusal to reinstate those two accounts made little sense. | ||
Except it's a decision by Musk to prohibit any views to be heard on Twitter that are not just controversial, but deeply repugnant to a large number of people, or at least to Musk personally. | ||
The exact same standard, at least in principle, that the pre-Musk Twitter and Facebook and YouTube already use when censoring. | ||
Even if Musk ends up applying this framework with a somewhat lighter touch, it's the same framework. | ||
Any lingering doubts about whether Musk was living up to his own standard for what he means by free speech absolutism should have disappeared completely last night when Musk announced the banning of Kanye West. | ||
That's because nothing West said is even arguably illegal. | ||
As shocking as it is to hear someone enthusiastically professing their admiration for Adolf Hitler, any attempt to prosecute Kanye West for any of those statements, the standard must said he would use when making censorship decisions on Twitter, would be immediately and easily struck down by court as prohibited by the First Amendment. | ||
That Kanye West did nothing illegal with those statements is not a close call or even a debatable one. | ||
The so-called free speech absolutism movement emerged in the United States in the 1960s and 1970s in part due to Supreme Court rulings that invalidated this unconstitutional various state punishment that had been doled out to people who advocated communism. | ||
Obviously widely regarded in the U.S. | ||
as a repugnant ideology, similar to the way white supremacism and neo-Nazi-ism are now regarded in the United States. | ||
Among the punishments found unconstitutional by the mid-20th century Supreme Court was banning anyone defending communism from practicing law or holding positions in state universities. | ||
This mounting Supreme Court defense of free speech in all its forms, even involving the most repugnant speech, culminated in the Court's landmark unanimous 1969 decision in Brandenburg v. Ohio. | ||
The Brandenburg ruling continues to be the gold standard for free speech jurisprudence in the U.S. | ||
The facts leading up to that decision are simple. | ||
A Ku Klux Klan leader from rural Ohio, Clarence Brandenburg, stood up at a Klan rally and delivered a speech that advocated the justifiability of violence against the U.S. | ||
government if it continued, in his view, to discriminate against white people. | ||
As the court explained, for that speech he was arrested and then convicted under an Ohio law called the Ohio Criminal Syndicalism Statute that made it a crime to quote, advocate the duty, necessity, or propriety of crime, sabotage, violence, or unlawful methods of terrorism as a means of accomplishing industrial or political reform. | ||
In essence, Ohio had made it a crime to argue that the use of violence was justified in order to combat perceived government repression. | ||
A bit ironic for a country that was founded by people doing exactly that. | ||
The only question the Supreme Court faced, the only legal question it faced in this case, was whether the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech permitted Ohio to prosecute and then punish the citizen for advocating the use of violence to advance political ends. | ||
And that court ruled, unanimously, that while the state can permissibly criminalize the imminent incitement of violence, Such as standing outside someone's home with a gathered mob of using torches and urging the mob or directing the mob to go burn down that person's house right then. | ||
Something that would predictably result in immediate violence. | ||
The First Amendment protects The abstract advocacy of violence. | ||
As the court put it, quote, as we said in our prior ruling in No Diversity in the United States, quote, the mere abstract teaching of the moral propriety or even moral necessity for a resort to force and violence is not the same, is not the same as preparing a group for violent action and stealing it to such action. | ||
They went on, accordingly, we are confronted with a statute which, by its own words and as applied, purports to punish mere advocacy and to forbid, on pain of criminal prosecution, assembly with others merely to advocate the described type of action. | ||
Such a statute falls within the condemnation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments. | ||
In other words, even if Kanye West had vocally advocated the moral necessity of using violence against Jews, and as repugnant as his messaging was, he most certainly did not do that, but even if he had, he would still not have been saying anything that the law does or could outlaw. | ||
Now, it should go without saying, but unfortunately I know it does not, That objecting to the censorship of a particular view does not require one to support the view itself. | ||
Put another way, if someone questions whether Kanye West should have been banned from Twitter due to his remarks about Hitler, as I'm doing, then that does not mean, obviously, that one shares Kanye's professed admiration of Hitler. | ||
Anyone above the age of eight I mean that literally. | ||
Above the age of eight should have no trouble understanding the distinction between defending the right of a person to advocate Idea X and agreeing with Idea X itself. | ||
Indeed, nobody back in 1969 believed or claimed that the eight justices of the Supreme Court who invalidated the criminal conviction of Clarence Brandenburg so ruled because they secretly agreed with the Klan's white supremacy ideology. | ||
Everyone understood it was a ruling about the proper scope of free speech under the First Amendment. | ||
Those justices should count themselves very lucky that they never had to encounter modern-day left liberal political culture. | ||
Or else Thurgood Marshall, one of the justices who ruled that way, would have found himself being widely accused of supporting the Klan and of white supremacy as a result of that ruling, much the way that Clarence Thomas today so often is. | ||
This simple but vital distinction when it comes to discussing free speech was perhaps most vividly illustrated in the famous 1978 case where ACLU lawyers, overwhelmingly, in fact, almost all entirely, Jewish and leftist, defended the right of the American Nazi Party to hold a march through the town of Skokie, Illinois, a town chosen by those Nazis precisely because it was a town filled with Holocaust survivors. | ||
The ACLU represented the Nazi Party and on their behalf sued the city of Skokie and won because the city had denied the Nazi Party a parade permit. | ||
Now, nobody minimally rational thought the Jewish leftists of the ACLU were Nazi sympathizers. | ||
They found the Nazi speech as repellent as anyone else, obviously, but they were defending a principle, a principle. | ||
And by doing so, they almost caused the bankruptcy of the ACLU by driving away so many Jewish donors and supporters who were horrified by the principled stand they had taken in behalf of free speech. | ||
Here's how the group today describes the principle they defended back then. | ||
Quote, In 1978, the ACLU took a controversial stand for free speech by defending a neo-Nazi group that wanted to march through the Chicago suburb of Muskogee, where many Holocaust survivors lived. | ||
The notoriety of the case caused some ACLU members to resign, but ...had come to represent the ACLU's unwavering commitment to principle. | ||
In fact, many of the laws the ACLU cited to defend the Nazi Party's right to free speech and assembly were the same laws it had invoked during the civil rights era, when southern cities tried to shut down civil rights marches with similar claims about the violence and disruption the protests would cause. | ||
A very similar controversy involving the ACLU erupted just a few years ago in 2017 when the ACLU of Virginia sued the city of Charlottesville for denying a permit to various stripes of white nationalists and others who wanted to march. | ||
Many liberals and others on the left erected extreme rage at the ACLU when that rally resulted in the murder of a counter-protester Heather Heyer when one of the white nationalists piled his car into a group of people in which he was standing. | ||
But unlike 1978, when the ACLU vehemently defended the principle they were defending, this new and much less principled iteration of the ACLU all but apologized for what they had done and issued new regulations to appease its critics. | ||
Rules that make it harder for the ACLU to defend the free speech rights of unpopular groups in the future. | ||
The longtime executive director of the ACLU, back when it was still a genuine free speech group, Ira Glasser, who helped steer the group past the Skokie controversy and resigned 20 years later, right before the 9-11 attack, has become a vehement critic of the new ACLU for what he regards as its subordination of principled civil liberties stands in order to become a standard liberal and democratic party, partisan activist group. | ||
When I interviewed Glasser in 2020 about the ACLU's position in both the Skokie case and the controversy surrounding its actions in Charlottesville, this is what he told me about why real free speech absolutism, the kind that doesn't bend or break when it comes to the most repellent views and the attacks one provokes by defending the right to express them, is now more vital than ever. | ||
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The larger question that you're raising is a question of the young generation of activists who seem to believe that the cause of social injustice requires opposition to the First Amendment, and they come to think that their fight for social justice and the right of free speech are antagonists because they take their own right of free speech for granted, and they see their opponent's free speech as a threat. | |
And they want it stopped. | ||
And, you know, the analogy that I always use in talking about this is poison gas. | ||
You know, when you've got some real enemies out in front of you, and they seem to be advancing on you, and they seem maybe to even outnumber you, and you have some poison gas, and you've got them in your sights, it's very tempting to use it. | ||
You want to use it. | ||
So you start using it. | ||
And then the wind shifts. | ||
That crucial recognition expressed and explained so well there by our Vassar that if you support censorship when it comes to views you hate such as the things Kanye West has been saying over the last several days or weeks will eventually be used against the views you like Is exactly why the free speech absolutism of the old noble ACLU was supported by the civil rights leaders of that era and others who felt vulnerable. | ||
Because they knew that if they endorsed a framework of censorship due to their hatred of Nazis, that framework of censorship would then be turned on to them. | ||
Something to think about as you think about whether you are happy that Kanye West has been banned from Twitter. | ||
Beyond the ACLU, one of the most influential left-wing figures of the 20th century and now into the 21st century is the MIT linguist, scholar, and anti-war activist Noam Chomsky. | ||
Chomsky provoked significant amounts of rage among the left toward him, especially the European left, Due to his defense of free speech rights of a French professor in 1979. | ||
That professor, Robert Farson, was a well-respected tenure professor of literature at a French public university when he began, in his words, studying the Holocaust. | ||
And started questioning and then denying the existence of gas chambers and other Nazi atrocities. | ||
Resulting in threats to terminate his tenure job as a literature professor. | ||
Chomsky, who had lost most of his family in those same Nazi camps, signed a letter along with 600 or so other public intellectuals denouncing the attempts to have Farrison fired for his views. | ||
Part of that letter read, quote, We strongly protest these efforts to deprive Professor Farrison of his freedom of speech and expression, and we condemn the shameful campaign to silence him. | ||
We strongly support Professor Farrison's just right of academic freedom, And we demand that university and government officials do everything possible to ensure his safety and the free exercise of his legal rights. | ||
The free speech rights of this professor turned him for a long while into a pariah among the left, especially the European left which never did and still does not believe in free speech. | ||
He did not visit France for decades after that episode happened and to this day, He vehemently defends what he did and continues to be one of the few prominent voices on the international left who still defends free speech. | ||
Chomsky, after all, was one of the signers of the now-notorious Harper's Letter in 2020, along with J.K. | ||
Rowling, Salman Rushdie, Malcolm Gladwell, and many others, that warned that, quote, the free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted, and went on, It is now all too common to hear calls for swift and severe retribution in response to perceived transgressions of speech and thought. | ||
In this extraordinary and highly important video I'm about to show you, Chomsky confronted a wide array of angry French activists and students and explained the reasons he defended even the rights of this Holocaust-denying professor to be heard and not be punished by the state. | ||
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I do not think that the state ought to have the right to determine historical truth and to punish people who deviate from it. | |
I'm not willing to give the state that right, even if they happen to fall within it. | ||
But are you denying that the gas chambers never existed? | ||
But I'm saying, if you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. | ||
I mean, Goebbels was in favor of freedom of speech for views he liked. | ||
Right, so is Stalin. | ||
If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. | ||
Otherwise, you're not in favor of freedom of speech. | ||
There's two positions you can have on freedom of speech, and you can decide which position you want. | ||
With regard to my defense of The people who express utterly offensive views, I have the slightest doubt that every commissar says, you're defending that person's views. | ||
No, I'm not. | ||
I'm defending his right to express them. | ||
The difference is crucial, and the difference has been understood outside of fascist circles since the 18th century. | ||
Now, note two vital points that Chomsky makes here. | ||
The first is that censorship advocates always resort to the cheap and intellectually bankrupt tactic of accusing free speech defenders of secretly agreeing with the views of those whose free speech rights they defend, as I'm certain people are going to do with this very video. | ||
When accusing me of obviously secretly sympathizing with Kanye West's admiration of Hitler simply because I'm questioning whether or not his views and those of others like him should be prohibited from Twitter. | ||
But the second point Chomsky makes there is even more important. | ||
And that is that when it comes to free speech, there are only two views one can have. | ||
There's not a third view, there's not a fourth view, there's not a fifth view. | ||
There's no gradations when it comes to free speech. | ||
There are only two positions. | ||
One either supports the right for the full range of political opinions to be freely expressed, or one supports censorship. | ||
Those in that second group may disagree about where that censorship line should be drawn. | ||
Some think it should be drawn at transphobia. | ||
Others think it should be drawn at racism. | ||
Others think it should be drawn at anti-Semitism. | ||
But as a matter of principle, it's all censorship advocacy. | ||
They may quibble about where the censorship should be, but ultimately they're defending censorship. | ||
One either supports the right to express even the most repellent views, such as the things Kanye West is censoring, saying, or one is a censor. | ||
There's no third alternative. | ||
Why does that point matter so much? | ||
Because everyone loves to proclaim themselves a supporter of free speech. | ||
At least in the U.S., you almost never hear anyone stand up and say, I oppose free speech, or I support censorship. | ||
When it's clearly the case that they do, nobody wants to admit that about themselves. | ||
So it's very easy to recite free speech bromides. | ||
And it's often easy to apply free speech, particularly when it comes to defending people who are targeted with censorship for expressing views that you either share or at least don't find particularly offensive. | ||
The new pro-free speech camp in the United States, as represented by people whom then New York Times writer Barry Weiss famously dubbed the intellectual dark web, began as opposition to so-called cancel culture. | ||
Weiss called it the dark web because... | ||
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