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Lawyer: Pence Can Deny Electoral Votes From Fraudulent States & Save America — FULL SHOW 12-20-20

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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now, Election Countdown, Sunday night, 6 to 8 p.m. Election Countdown, Sunday night, 6 to 8 p.m.
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		I'm Alex Jones and Tom Pappard He's about to take over.
		Owen Schwerer will be hosting tomorrow with yours truly, but I'm here with Tom Peppert.
		I'm your host, Alex Jones.
		Tom, I just love seeing you there.
		Love the great work you're doing at nationalfile.com.
		You're about to take over, but what do you make of the news headlines?
		Trump considering martial law and, you know, now they're doing recounts and looking at the signatures in Georgia.
		And, oh, EEOC says forced inoculations.
		I mean, It's one thing to like know the Globalists were planning this, but it's kind of a nightmare to see it all coming true.
		People are like, Jones, your credibility is off the chart.
		I'm like, I wish it wasn't.
		This is crazy.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		That's where we're at, Alex.
		I mean, I don't think anybody has ever wanted you to be wrong more than right now.
		All of America is praying to God, Alex, please be wrong about something because everything you've been predicting since 1992 is now here.
		They're rolling out the forced inoculations.
		They're rolling out the medical tyranny.
		They're going to keep you in your home forever.
		And meanwhile, We have Trump.
		This is the big curveball, of course, Alex.
		Our savior, our would-be savior, is having to throw away the Constitution, perhaps, and announce martial law to save the Republic.
		This is something that you and me never thought would happen, let alone never thought we might actually entertain as a good idea.
		But when you essentially have a third of the country in open insurrection against the president, you have governors not willing to do their job, state legislatures not willing to do their jobs, U.S. representatives and U.S. senators not willing to do their job.
		I think that it now falls on President Trump to use the executive office, to use the executive power, which he's been very reticent to do, by the way, his whole administration to actually set things right in this country.
		Now, our sources say that the martial law comments were played up by CNN, and the majority of the disagreement was actually about whether or not they should appoint Sidney Powell to be a special prosecutor, a special counsel, to investigate this election fraud.
		So, the conversations that happened in the White House, we've got good sources now at National Vial, and they tell us it was very, very real, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're going to lay all that out.
		Hell, I know it's real.
		I know that Powell and I know that Flynn were there.
		I know they're both pushing that.
		But let's be clear.
		I won't shrink away from reality.
		The globalists have brought us into martial law, the left, the martial law, the big corporations, the lockdowns, the mask, the economic war saying our businesses aren't essential.
		That's martial law when they say stay in your house.
		And so what is martial law?
		In U.S.
		law, when you're occupied, you may have to declare martial law.
		I don't fetishize it.
		I don't like it.
		But I won't shrink away from saying the president should at the Resolute Desk give speeches and call on Americans to come out in mass peacefully and start disregarding this globalist takeover, and he should call a new election.
		Call it civil emergency.
		Call it national emergency.
		Call it martial law.
		I want American Martial Law versus Chai Com Martial Law any day of the week.
		And people that are speaking out against that, they're compromised, they're Chai Com agents, or they are panty waist wimps.
		I'm going to hand this over to you right now, Tom Papert.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
		Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen, off for the rest of the week so he can finally catch his breath and have a very good Christmas with his family.
		So now you are watching, of course, the Sunday night program election countdown.
		And we have a very, very important guest who has really been outlining a lot of the strategy and a lot of what you're seeing happen right now in the House of Representatives.
		and hopefully in the Senate with Vice President Mike Pence and President Donald Trump.
		We're talking, of course, about the constitutional attorney.
		A very, very colorful background, Ivan E. Raiklin.
		Ivan, welcome to the program, sir.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		Hey, good to be back, Tom.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		So great to have you here, sir.
		So today, I'm just waking up, I'm scrolling through my Twitter, and I see, oh my god, he's got another one.
		And I start doing the research, and I start doing the background, and I'm sitting here thinking, how has nobody else put this together?
		This guy is onto something here.
		And essentially what is in the Constitution and in U.S.
		Code Yeah, so if you look at a couple of things you got to look at in order to be able to understand the analysis that I came through.
		to these individual states that have now sent these perhaps totally fraudulent electoral college slates and say, no, no, no, no, no, go back and send the real one.
		So break this down for us if you can.
unidentified		Yeah.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		So if you look at a couple of things you got to look at in order to be able to understand the analysis that I came through, first and foremost, I want to say the reason why I came up with this is as I'm putting out contact, some folks have reached out to me via LinkedIn, Twitter, and they came up with this idea that which we're going and they came up with this idea that which we're going to come to today is if you look at the Constitution, a lot of us have already been discussing Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2, that's been talked about for the last few
		Uh, and that essentially says that electors have to be selected, right?
		And then transmit it to the Congress.
		But the way that process actually occurs in detail is enshrined in title three of the United States code.
		And if you specifically look at, you know, it's Sections 1 through 21 of Title 3, which is also known as the Electoral College Vote Act.
		And it's in that title.
		If you look at specifically Section 12, there's a component there that in the event that these states do not transmit an electoral slate to the Vice President, then the Vice President, then on that date, demands of the Secretaries of State, That they submit their electoral slate.
		Now, the way you read into it is that those electoral slates are to be legal, lawful, and they follow the United States Constitution.
		Now, if you start looking and scrutinizing each one of these states, you look at the argument made by the Texas versus Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan case that the Supreme Court decided not to rule on.
		That lays out the evidence of the constitutional violations by the state.
		If Vice President Pence accepts that slate of electors where the Supreme Court has not really ruled on it, with all of the massive fraud that has been alleged, that has gone through the courts, and hasn't been adjudicated fully yet at the Supreme Court, It would be, I'm arguing that it would be illegal for the Vice President to accept any slate of electors, whether it's for Biden or for Trump, from these contested states until they resolve their dispute.
		The dispute is complete.
		One way that they can correct those actions at the state level is to Call a legislative session under their Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2 powers without a need for the governor to call a special session, because in this instance, the legislature has plenary power, and then they decide on which slate of electors to choose from.
		Now, December 14th is when they certified fraudulent elections.
		They can argue at that time it was legitimate, but it's been, what are we at now, December 20th?
		It's been six days since, and a lot of information has transpired since that time, continuing to show the massive amounts of fraud.
		People are being arrested.
		For the fraud in some of these jurisdictions, that's starting to come out.
		Additionally, the Vice President sits on the National Security Council.
		He sees, and was most likely briefed by the Director of National Intelligence on the foreign interference, according to executive order, one, two, uh, what is it?
		One, two, three, I can't remember the exact number, four, five, eight, if I'm not mistaken.
		And so he sees intelligence that also shows him the interference in our infrastructure to include the election infrastructure that was attacked by foreign adversaries.
		So that knowledge that he has that the state electors didn't have, coupled with the new evidence that have come forth and the new lawsuits that have been filed as recently as today from Pennsylvania, three cases before the Supreme Court, it would be illegal for the vice president to accept those it would be illegal for the vice president to accept those electoral Now, the next question is, how does this play out?
		So the option is to have a legislative session to vote for a proper electoral statement.
		That would be constitutional.
		Two is to have the legislature and the state have a brand new election within that state where it's done lawfully according to the rules and the U.S.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Constitution as well as the- So Ivan, let me stop you there for just a second because if I'm not mistaken, the date is still January 20th.
		So if you're talking organizing a second election and all of this, That seems extremely unrealistic.
		Mike Pence has to do this, I believe you said, on December 23rd.
		So that's this week.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		On December 23rd is when he notifies the state's secretaries of state.
		And it's really on them.
		I mean, I'm not concerned with the timing of it.
		That's their problem.
		They violated all the rules.
		Well, they have to correct it.
		That's not my problem.
		They can pull some all-nighters, figure it out.
		Again, that's one option.
		One option is to have a vote on the legislature.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And what it sounds like is these states either have to choose.
		Either we're sending nobody to the electoral college.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		I challenge any attorney in the entire country to contest anything I'm saying and I'll stand my ground.
		There's not a single attorney out there that's going to be able to poke holes in this analysis.
		Not one.
		Bring them on.
		I'd be happy to explain it to them.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
		I love it.
		And I love that what you're really talking about here is the vice president and really the executive branch, and I guess this is the legislative because it's president of the Senate in this capacity, have the ability to force these legislatures to do their job because this all could have been avoided to a certain extent.
		If Ducey and if Kemp had done their job.
		So this is going to be an extra ounce of pressure for either Ducey and Kemp to do it, or some of these rhinos to come together and override their governance.
		I think that's exciting.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		At this point, they're completely out of the picture.
		At this point, once the Vice President conducts this, because he's legally obligated to do it, he really has no choice.
		If he accepts them, then he's susceptible to participating in criminal fraud, right?
		That's arguable, but I think that is the case.
		And so, in order to be safe, he has to do it.
		He has to tell the Secretary of State that he cannot accept, he did not receive legal, legitimate, according to the U.S.
		Constitution, he's a federal officer, he's defending the U.S.
		Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic.
		and he has to uphold the laws and execute those laws.
		And part of that is to decide this on the 23rd.
		Now, the second and third order effects of this, and it kind of, let me finish my train of thought.
		So again, they can hold a new election, the legislature can go ahead and decide what slate they choose.
		And then really, those are the two main options.
		The other third option is to wait until this is completely resolved in the courts, right?
		There's still pending litigation, if I'm not mistaken, in all of these places.
		Now, last thing I'll say is if you don't like my analysis and you disagree with it, then by all means, argue it in court!
		Go to court, file in district court, Then, wait for the appeal, go to the Court of Appeals, and then after the Court of Appeals, go to the Supreme Court, and what do you think they're going to do based on what they just did with Texas?
		They're probably going to stay out of it.
		And oh, by the way, how much time do you have?
		Arguably, from December 23rd, you have two weeks.
		But no, you don't have two weeks.
		You know why?
		Because you are not going to be Injured in this situation until January 6th, when President Trump and Vice President Pence are reelected.
		That's when your injury starts, and you can start your litigation on January 6th in the evening.
unidentified		Too late.
unidentified		Then they have from the 6th until the 20th.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		Anybody out there that wants to contest this analysis, like, I'm calling you out.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		Bring it on.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Well, so, Ivan, the scary part is, and it's not that I think Vice President Pence is a bad guy, but it's when things hold up, things are held up with one person, when they depend on one person, that always scares me.
		And so something that you were talking about before this is how this could potentially go into a contingent election.
		If Mike Pence stands up for the Constitution, stands up for what's right on the 23rd, then it sounds like a contingent election isn't even going to come into the cards.
		But I mean that's another situation where Mike Pence will need to cast the tie-breaking vote Between the House led by Nancy Pelosi, which is going to vote and say no.
		Arizona, Georgia with Ruby and Shea Moss, the rigging ladies of Georgia, totally fine.
		Arizona with the Sharpies, totally fine.
		And then you're going to have McConnell on the other side in the Senate who will say, no, this is all totally fraudulent.
		We're going to toss them out.
		And Pence is going to have to be the tiebreaker there.
		So, I mean, this is really like a fascinating moment.
		The vice president, which I mean, Biden, they like hit him in the basement for eight years when he was vice president.
		But, I mean, kind of talk about this.
		How is the Vice President this, out of nowhere it seems, possibly the most important person in this country?
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		Right, so again, it goes back to, if you look at the 12th Amendment, and the last part where it talks about the inauguration has been changed with the 20th Amendment.
		I'm not talking about that part.
		But the part where we're talking about the contingent election.
		Right now, we're only talking about one path to victory.
		And it's a really clear, clear-cut, really clean, Constitutional path to keep out fraudulent and dirty electors that weren't, you know, shouldn't be submitted.
		That's one path.
		There are still multiple paths.
		I mean, Sidney Powell still has four cases before the Supreme Court awaiting for them to do something.
		There's three more from the campaign.
		There's the Republican Party from Pennsylvania is also filed, right?
		So, Lin Wood has a case before the Supreme Court.
		I think that's what?
		Six, seven, maybe up to ten cases.
		That's one path, but in ten different mechanisms.
		You still have criminal investigations that are going on that could impact the state legislatures.
		They have until January 6th, whether or not Vice President Pence does what he has to do on the 23rd or not, to recall their electoral slates based on new evidence to show that it was fraud to be able to pull back and correct their mistake.
		And that can be done through multiple methods.
		I mean, I argue that the entire Congress needs to be conducting hearings with all of the people that were under oath at the state level, put them under oath at the federal level.
		That's a bigger crime.
		Some of them weren't under oath with prosecution behind it.
		So if you put them behind under oath under federal Congress, they're going to tell you the truth, and that's going to expose more fraud.
		And then in the meantime, I argue, if you look at my pinned tweet, it's essentially a path over the next three weeks on how the executive branch can lay out to the American public and disclose all the fraud that's occurred based on, you know, declassifying all this intel that's coming out, Treasury Department, the NSA declassifications, as well as all these hacks that occurred, where it's coming from and how it specifically impacted the elections.
		So moving forward, Talking about the continued election.
		So let's just assume that Vice President Pence is going to break the law and not allow, or excuse me, he's going to break the law on Wednesday and accept those fraudulent electors from these six states.
		Well, then it falls on Mo Brooks in the House.
		Again, this is under Title 3 U.S.
		Code and the 12th Amendment.
		He goes ahead and he essentially presides, meaning he, meaning the Vice President, is now the presiding officer of a joint session of Congress inside of the House of Representatives where the entire Senate moves over to the House.
		And then he goes state by state in alphabetical order.
		He comes to Arizona, the first contested state, and asks, are there objections?
		Yeah, I'm Congressman Mo Brooks from Alabama and I am objecting.
		Well, Congressman, it's required that you have a senator as well to object.
		Who's that going to be?
		So there's a lot of discussion.
		No one's completely fully committed.
		I'm helping and essentially convincing why this needs to occur.
		Senator Tuberville is on the cusp of doing this, and you have a lot of other ones that are on the cusp.
		I mean, Rand Paul has been given indications.
		Ron Johnson, based on his actions, has given indications.
		Ted Cruz, by virtue of volunteering to take on the case for Texas in that lawsuit, that's an indication that he would probably— So, Ivan, let me stop you here again, because this is what's critical.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		We've now got like, I don't know, like 10 or 12 house people who I'm pretty sure— some of them are public.
		Matt Gaetz last night came out and said he is going to do it.
		But Matt Gaetz, speaking, I guess, like we're playing with the phone game, he said, well, Tuberville called me and Tuberville said that he is going to do it and he's going to do it on Thursday.
		I mean, so what is with the Senate?
		I mean, obviously, Mitch McConnell has a lot of power.
		He's very in deep with China.
		This is all very public.
		But what do the viewers, I guess, need to do to get some of these GOP senators to fight for Trump?
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		Right, let me answer that second part first.
		What can you do?
		Understand, I mean, I lay it out, essentially.
		If you don't understand what I'm saying, look at my pinned tweet.
		It articulates the paths to victory.
		I have a Google Doc that I've created in order to explain the paths if you scroll through the Twitter feed.
		Now, learn it.
		Understand it.
		Once you can understand it and articulate it, essentially tell them, hey, you have this power.
		You can object by objecting on the Senate and the House.
		What that does is the Senate goes off and breaks off into their chamber, has a discussion to determine whether or not they're going to accept a slate of electors from Arizona based on all of the fraud.
		And again, a lot of this fraud has come out recently.
		One of the biggest documents to come out to show it all in one fell swoop is Peter Navarro.
		He created a, I can't remember, a 30-plus page document.
		There's some slides that show, by the numbers, all the fraud is way more than is necessary for a Trump victory in each one of those states.
		And then if you start digging into the layers, you look at the testimony and listen to the testimony and all the documents from Wednesday's hearing before the Homeland Security Committee in the Senate, spoken by Jesse Banal.
		Trump won Nevada.
		I mean, just hands down, just based on that testimony alone.
		And then the other states, it's similar, but again, the only path to victory for Biden is for the media and big tech to tell you that Biden won.
		And everybody believes it.
		That's his only path.
		Again, learn it, know it, articulate it to them and say, we demand it.
		You have this authority.
		There's no way you should be a complicit in accepting fraudulent Elections that no one's gonna, no one believes in.
		All right, so let me just add one more thing.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		On the continued election piece, so they break off the Senate votes.
		You saw that Lin Wood filed a lawsuit to enjoin the Senate runoffs on Friday, I believe it was.
		Basically, that was being discussed.
		I was talking about it with him the last few weeks.
		The reason why we're doing that, there's twofold, right?
		There's a political component to it and there's also the most important piece is the legal constitutional framework of it so that we're not in a constitutional crisis.
		So by postponing the elections, well the reason why we postpone the elections is the Georgia Constitution specifically states that a runoff is an extension of the general election and only those voters that can vote in the general election, legal voters, can vote in the runoff nine weeks later.
		So how do we remedy this?
		Right now, we're still in fraud mode, trying to uncover and figure out who the legal voters were in November.
		So let's figure that out, postpone the election at a later date, February, once this is complete, and then hold and announce a runoff.
		In the interim, Governor Kemp, unless we recall him before that, but whoever we put in his place, if there's a recall, then appoints the Leffler and Perdue, if that happens to be it, or, you know, whatever Republican, they go into the Senate chambers and are ready, willing, and able to vote on the 6th, because the election doesn't occur on the 5th.
		And now we're at 52 to 48 Republican to Democrat, so then assuming that they vote by party line, minus Romney, it's 51-49 to throw out that, the uh, the uh, electors from that state and all the other states.
		And on the House side, Assuming that the majority stays for the Democrats currently, there's a small chance that, I mean, we could still flip five states based on analysis and things that are going on right now.
		Very small chance of that, but it's a statistical possibility.
		So let's assume, though, that the House remains Democrat and they vote by party line.
		And so now there's a conflict.
		The House wants to keep those electors.
		The Senate wants to throw them out.
		The presiding officer, Vice President Pence, of this joint session says, you know what?
		Before we go and trigger Title 3 of the U.S.
		Code, Section 15, that says if there's a conflict, then it goes to the governor's certification.
		Before we do that, there's still an opportunity to resolve this conflict between the two houses.
		And the method is articulated in the 12th Amendment framework, which means we go to states' delegations in the House as our last resort before we go to the governor option.
		And in that option, the 117th Congress, makeup as it stands right now, unless there's some changes, is going to be at least 26 Republican state majorities, delegations, 21 maximum, depending on how the next, you know, 21 states that are maximum Democrat majority.
		And then that leaves two states.
		Did I do my math?
		26, 21, and three states are going to be tied.
		And so at that point, you have a simple... They throw out the six states based on that tie-break rule, and then it goes into contingent because no one reaches the 270, and that same vote occurs on that secondary contingency vote.
		You know, 27 to 20 to 3, or worst case, 26-21, as I mentioned, right?
		And then on the Senate side, same thing.
		Romney doesn't play ball, 51-49.
		The Senate votes for Vice President Pence.
		He's re-elected, and the House, under the delegation contingent vote, votes for President Trump.
		And now he's re-elected, and we have an inauguration on January 20th.
		Total celebration.
		That's it.
		So many paths to victory.
		That's not even going into All of the, you know, seizing... We haven't even talked about seizing Dominion property.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Which, by the way, I mean, that's becoming its own story.
		Institute of Insurrection Act.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		Martial law.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		In Arizona, of course.
		They're just refusing to cooperate.
		They won't give up the Dominion servers.
		So it would be fascinating to see if they would do that with Trump.
		And so, part of the reason why I personally enjoy this is because it's happening.
		I mean, it sounds, when I first was talking to you about this, and I'm like, my goodness, this sounds so, it sounds like he's shooting to the moon.
		But Ivan, you're networking, the people who are supporting you, the InfoWars viewers who are making these calls, I mean, this is absolutely in motion.
		Mo Brooks has a growing coalition.
		Purdue now is making sounds that he's going to join.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking to Mo Brooks' staff.
		I'm talking to Marjorie Taylor Greene.
		I'm talking to Congresswoman-elect from Georgia.
		She's ferocious.
		She's totally 100% into this.
		So Mo, I recommend Mo Brooks be the chairman or the speaker of the House Majority States Delegations.
		She's right up there.
		Congresswoman Moore.
		She has the, you know, the pulse of the people within our community.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		More.
		And then we're looking at more and more.
		I mean, Matt Gaetz.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Who do you think is going to be the first senator?
		That's what I want to know, because that's what's so frustrating to people.
		It seems like before you know it, half the House is going to be signed on, or at least half the Republicans in the House.
		Do you think Tuberville is going to come over?
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		This is a very difficult concept, right?
		Senator-elect Tuberville, he's a coach.
		He doesn't have the thorough basis understanding that I do of the Constitution, right?
		They need to be, you know, you need to explain this to them.
		That's why I implore everyone here, learn it so that you can explain it with conviction, because I believe it and know it, but it doesn't matter if I'm the only one that knows it and believes it.
		If everybody else sees it and says, absolutely, this analysis is spot on, now I can, with conviction, explain to my audience, my, you know, Alabama voters, and say, I have this authority and I actually have to use it because I have to counter the fraud.
		And so when that happens, as we educate each other, we're going to see senators coming left and right because it's so clear cut.
		First order of business, though, is we have to make sure that everybody in the orbit of Vice President Pence, that anybody listening in on this, I implore you to explain this, the article that you had up, this construct, that they need to let him know about it.
		Otherwise, it is going to get messier.
		Every day we move forward, where we're accepting these fraudulent election results, it gets messier and messier.
		And we're moving, you know, the country's in the middle of raising the temperature to a boil.
		And that boil is going to occur on January 6th.
		And it's up to the state legislatures We're pressuring them.
		And it's up to the US Congress to determine whether or not they're going to be boiled amongst that.
		And we're going to increase it beyond 212 degrees.
		Or if they're going to say, you know what, we're going to turn things down a little bit.
		It's up to them and their decision making process.
		And we're the ones, we're the molecules that are going to be creating the friction to increase that temperature.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think you're right, and personally, I don't think Pence is a bad guy, but if anybody surrounding Pence, any of his controllers, any of his aides, whatever you call yourself, any of these cretins, if you're watching this, you're not doing the Vice President a favor if you keep this information from him.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		You, in fact, if you don't tell Pence that this is happening, that what Ivan's research says and what nobody has been able to rebut, if you don't tell the Vice President about this, you're allowing your boss to violate the law.
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		That's all I'm saying.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		And beyond that, I mean, say the Democrats get away with all of this, Ivan.
		I mean, Pence will never be able to show his face in public again.
		And if that happens because somebody pulled the wool over his eyes, I mean, that's an unforgivable, unchristian offense to do two days before Christmas.
		Ivan, we've got just under a minute left.
		Tell folks, where can they go to follow you?
		Where can they go to read the super thread, the Google Doc?
		Where can they go?
ivan raiklin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so if you go to my Twitter, my pinned tweet is really the latest and greatest that you should look at.
		Read that.
		It's a thread.
		Look at it.
		And as you read the stuff that I put out, it's essentially what needs to happen.
		I'm advising the country and I'm advising the senior leaders in our nation of this is the constitutional path forward.
		I've taken the oath many times to defend the Constitution.
		It's serious to me.
		I hope they can get you back soon.
		Maybe we can get you back tomorrow.
		Don't go away, guys.
		Thank you so much, Ivan.
		more people join me to make sure that those consequences are enacted.
		Raiklin is my Twitter handle.
		Thanks for having me on.
		I can come back and explain further as I continue to do analysis.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		I hope they can get you back soon.
		Maybe we can get you back tomorrow.
		Don't go away, guys.
		Thank you so much, Ivan.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		B-I-A, B-I-O, ghost riders in the sky.
unidentified		One of the best country songs ever done.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Was that?
		I think it was Burl Ives who wrote that.
		Ghost Riders in the Sky in like the 1930s.
		I'm of course Tom Pappert filling in here on InfoWars Sunday Night Broadcast.
		My guest last segment was Ivan E. Raiklin.
		I highly recommend you follow him on Twitter.
		He is doing the play-by-play for what you're actually seeing play out right now in the House of Representatives.
		U.S.
		Senate and of course, hopefully, The White House.
		But my next guest has been really in the trenches following this, seeing which senators are going to come along, seeing which House of Representatives members are going to come along, and seeing which are already lined up, like Brutus and Julius Caesar, to stab President Trump in the back.
		My next guest is Jack Hadfield.
		He's a reporter at National File, at Jack Hatters on Twitter.
		Jack, welcome back to the program.
		Of course, last week you were on to discuss The latest updates on Arizona, and I want to get into that with you still because there's insane things happening in Arizona.
		Maricopa County is denying or refusing to comply with the subpoena for their Dominion machines.
		But first, let's talk about what happened last night because it's a prelude, I believe, For CPAC, which of course is going to be coming up in the first quarter of next year, TPUSA held an event last night in Florida in an event venue that's a very big venue.
		Normally you can have five, 10,000 people and all hell broke loose because the local Democrat mob said too many people were there.
		It was a super spreading event.
		So explain what happened last night and then we'll get into some of the headlines that came out of that event, even with the censorship.
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, exactly.
		It was certainly, well, we spent rather a lot of time tracking exactly what was going down in West Palm Beach, where the event by Turning Point USA, which is their annual Student Action Summit.
		So it's mostly for high school students and college students as well.
		So it's an event really designed for, you know, for young people and often by young people as well, obviously.
		You know, Charlie Kirk, you know, head of turning point.
		You know, he's he's only in his late twenties.
		You know, most people in the organization, uh, are relatively young.
		So, yeah, so it's a very, um, youth culture focused event.
		Um, you know, they had speakers, um, including, you know, we had Tucker Carlson, Matt Gates, uh, Seb Corker.
		I think, believe they had James O'Keefe again today.
		So, yeah, it's fair enough to say that it's sort of like the Young Conservatives version of CPAC in a way, or certainly the closest that they have to it, certainly at the moment.
		But yes, so last night there was a number of attendees were basically locked out of the conference centre.
		You know, we started to see a, well, I caught a live stream from Elijah Schaefer of The Blaze, who was showing that there were hundreds of the attendees just stuck outside with nowhere to go.
		And they were saying that they weren't allowed in and they were being blocked by, we were hearing, police or health officials who were saying that they weren't allowed in for reasons relating to uh capacity reduced capacity because of the coronavirus um thankfully i i i knew a number of people attending and i was able to get a a bigger and clearer picture of exactly what was going on on the ground
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		um at first there were some uh text messages that were claiming to have been sent from tp usa saying that people have been uh deregistered that was the weirdest part they tried to frame tp usa they they we found out this was like pranksters who they found out this was happening and so they thought and i'm no like tp usa fanboy believe me but they they start sending out these uh push notifications that say you've been canceled your registration has been canceled you're not allowed to come and And people are freaking out.
		They're like, what are you talking about?
		I paid.
		I'm supposed to be able to go on.
		And so that was how this all started.
		It was, it's very weird because the Democrat, either the mayor or the city council came up with this plan.
		We're not going to let anybody go to this event.
		And then somehow somebody knew about this and got the numbers and started a very, very bizarre situation.
		And frankly, it all comes down to despite them having a good governor, Ron DeSantis.
		You've got either the Democratic mayor or the county advisor or something like that, both running cover for each other with the media in the middle, putting out all kinds of white noise.
		Basically, and at the end of the day, the narrative is conservatives aren't allowed to have events anymore.
		If Charlie Kirk put his fist in the air like this and said Black Lives Matter, then they could have had 10,000 people there and started fire to the event venue.
		And it all would have been fine.
		But because they were there to talk about President Trump and talk about America first and actually to talk about how to save the election, as soon as you get 2,001 people, then you might as well call martial law because we're going to turn the dogs and the water hoses out on you.
		So then, but inside the event, and part of the reason probably why they did this was to distract from what was being said inside the event, because the first person to really take the stage, the first speaker was Matt Gates, who, I mean, I'll let you break it down, Jack, because it's kind of cataclysmic.
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think cataclysmic is exactly the right word for it.
		You know, as obviously there was chaos, you know, breaking outside in the Convention Centre with, you know, everybody, you know, looking to get in and all the problems that were being caused, as you said, by the Mayor.
		Well, we're not entirely sure whether it was the Mayor or the County Administrator, you know, and this news then overshadowed what the Gates had been saying inside.
		In fact, The first I knew of this was a text message in a group chat that I'm in with one of the attendees there, who said that Matt Gaetz is being really based right now, and I quote.
		And I wasn't entirely sure what he meant by that at the time, but then I think just as we were wrapping the coverage up of the conference, we saw that he spoke out and said he will be challenging the Electoral College votes On January the 6th, along with another number of representatives, he said he will be challenging the votes from the states that didn't run clean elections, is the quote.
		Now, it's not exactly news that we have another representative joining Mary Brooks' fight.
		Obviously, it's good.
		You know, we want as many people as we can.
		But the really explosive thing that came out from Gates' speech was what he said about Tommy Tuberville, who's the senator-elect from Alabama.
		Yeah, he said that he had spoken to Tuberville.
		And he said that Tuberville said we are done running plays from the establishment's losing playbook.
		It's time to stand and fight.
		And then he mentioned that obviously he used to be a coach in Alabama.
		And then Gates said, Well, the odds may be tough.
		It may be fourth and long, but we are going for it on January the sixth.
		Saying we, you know, by that, we think now it's pretty clear that Senator Tubboville will now be challenging the Electoral College votes.
		And that's the important bit.
		You know, you need a representative and the senator to challenge the votes.
		Otherwise, as happened with Trump's Electoral College votes in 2016, when it was just representatives, like it would just get passed through.
		Tubboville's been waffling back and forth about his support.
		Um, but yeah, it seems it's we still haven't heard anything from Tuberville himself, but it seems pretty clear, especially because Matt Gaetz retweeted my article with the headline that says Tuberville will join coalition of those who will be fighting the Electoral College of Oats on January the 6th.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Well, and so this is a very interesting thing.
		And what was most interesting to me is obviously Matt Gaetz is relaying this phone call that he had with Tommy Tuberville out in Alabama, who of course was like the third person that I wanted to win.
		I mean, I guess he's better than the Democrat.
		But if he does the right thing, he will suddenly become one of my favorite, perhaps my favorite U.S.
		Senator.
		But what I thought was interesting, Jack, is the quote that he said, it's time to abandon the failed establishment playbook.
		We know, I mean our sources say, that Mitch McConnell is freaking out about this.
		He doesn't want to do it.
		He wants to have China Joe take office so China Mitch can continue getting rich.
		Mitch McConnell is very, very tied to China.
		He makes tons and tons of money.
		His wife does pro-Chinese policy in her job at the Department of Transportation.
		And so Mitch McConnell is dreading this, and he's putting all the pressure in the world on people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and Ron Johnson Not to back Mo Brooks.
		And so if you have Tuberville coming in, I mean, he really is, if he does this, if he holds true to his word and doesn't make Matt Gaetz a liar, then he is the anti-establishment candidate.
		And I was wrong about him during the primary because he's coming in and he's repudiating Mitch McConnell, who is not often recognized as such, but unfortunately, one of the strongest and most powerful men in America with the weight and power he holds over the Senate.
		Well, I think maybe, perhaps not that it's about guts, but the fact that he's not even a senator yet.
		on this what do you make of this jack is tuberville going to rise above everybody else in the senate i mean this is his chance he could be a star he could be president if he does this do you think he has the guts well i i think maybe perhaps not is not that it's about the guts but the fact that he's not even a senator yet i think the fact that he hasn't had the chance to be influenced by mitch mcconnell um
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		and to have the essence of the capital swamp sort of embedded into him um and And even that idea of resisting Mitch McConnell, you know, being there for instantly spun as a negative, you know, you're not supposed to resist party leadership, generally.
		And I think, and I think that really is where the big positive is for Tuberville, because You know, at the moment, you know, he's going straight in.
		He's the start of his six year term, and, you know, he could really, you know, started off with a bang.
		You know, that would certainly be one way to make an impression on certainly one way to, um, make the voters think about him, certainly in a far more positive light.
		Um, obviously, when there had been, you know, criticism from from people during the primary.
		Um, so, yeah, yeah.
		Yeah, I think the Yeah, it's like I wouldn't say that people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and so on, who have stood up repeatedly for America First policies time after time, don't have guts.
		But I think the pressure really is on them from Mitch McConnell now.
		And and Tuberville simply isn't facing that pressure because he isn't yet in Washington.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, I just I I guess it is all back to money.
		I mean, you can read about it on National File.
		McConnell is very tied to Chinese business interests.
		His sister-in-law is on the board.
		I don't need to tell you where that company is based out of.
		His wife's mother-in-law owned a very, very large international shipping firm that is technically based in the U.S., but when they sail ships, they never fly the American flag.
		They always fly some bizarre country in Africa.
		And they almost 100% do business with China.
		Then you have Elaine Chao, who is Mitch McConnell's wife of Taiwanese descent, I'm told.
		And she is, of course, the Transportation Secretary.
		In that role, she does nothing but do pro-China policy at the expense of U.S.
		shipping companies.
		It's China Mitch.
		I mean, cocaine Mitch was totally off base.
		It's China Mitch.
		So I guess I get that.
		But I would think that after Tuberville comes forward, If he does.
		If he doesn't make Matt Gaetz into a liar, which would be sad for Matt Gaetz because he's an honorable man.
		But if Tuberville will come forward and be the first senator, Jack, I would hope That this would start a domino effect in the Senate.
		Nobody wants to put their neck out first, but if Tuberville goes forward and then, say, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Ron Johnson, some of these good senators, if they don't then join Tuberville, I mean, what would that say about their character?
		What do you think Americans would think of that, Jack?
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, exactly.
		It would be, you know, cowardice at the worst possible time.
		You know, you can do good policy and You know, make the right noise as well.
		The sun is shining, but if when it comes down, you know to what could potentially be, you know.
		Not not not not to be dramatic, but you know, we're talking end of the Republic times here in terms of the grand span of history.
		if you're not here at these crucial moments in history if you are literally not being standed up and counted to paraphrase a phrase then everything else good that you've done in In your career will always be overshadowed by that one single action that you refuse to take.
		And I think that is what is facing people like Senators Cruz all and others who are more on the American first agenda.
		So yeah, so I really do hope that they will follow Tuberville if he is the one to first stand up and be counted on January the 6th.
		And I do think they will, but they just need Tuberville again here.
		He said he hasn't been influenced by the Washington swamp to get them ready and push them over the line into the believe into believing that yes, you know, we can do this.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		So.
		And by the way, it's not like, you know, we're not asking for a coup here.
		We're asking for the continuation of a lawful and elected government.
		I don't feel like we're asking for a pie-in-the-sky thing.
		And basically, this is a coup that's been going on in some way, shape, or form since before Trump got in office.
		I mean, it's the same exact mechanisms that are fighting him now.
		You have an article up in National File from, I think, just yesterday We spoke to Rich Higgins, a former member of the National Security Council, who was a big surrogate for President Trump in 2016.
		He wound up getting kicked off the National Security Council, get this, viewers, by H.R.
		McMaster, that horrible, disgusting human being that Infowars had a big, big part in getting fired.
		And so this guy, Rich Higgins, has been cast out of government, called a conspiracy theorist, called a racist, called An Islamophobe, everything else, and the crime that he did to earn this scorn was he wrote a memo saying that the deep state is out to get Trump and they're undermining his administration from within.
		He released that memo in May of 2017, it got to President Trump, and he was immediately fired by H.R.
		McMaster.
		Well, so he came out and he said exactly what you and me are talking about and exactly what these senators need to hear.
		So let's elaborate on that just a little bit.
		I mean, what this guy said is insane.
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, the quote that he directly provided us to was saying that the DNC and the Biden campaign has been working with dark money packs, outside groups like CTCL, which stands for the Center for Tech and Civic Life, and we'll get on to them in a sec, and hostile foreign intelligence services.
		So he was supporting BLM and Antifa to, again, and this is a quote, to Execute what appears to have been the most successful covert action ever conducted against the USA.
		And he said that the target of this coup was the sovereign American people and that they were also assisted in this coup by big tech censorship combined with the propaganda put out by the mainstream media.
		And he said that all of it was then enabled by establishment Republicans.
		You know, if You had told me this, you know, three, four years ago.
		I would have dismissed it as absolutely crackers.
		But the more you actually look into this, the more you realize just exactly what the deep state is doing.
		And you realize the links between the media, the establishment, groups on the ground like BLM and Antifa.
		Again, when I was last on here, we talked about this Antifa member in Arizona whose connection is the Democrat Party and the media.
		And also the hostile foreign intelligence.
		I mean, you know, this really has been going on since the USSR.
		You know, they funded, you know, terrorists in the 1970s, you know, trained them in East Germany.
		You know, I believe there was one who was the head of the U.S.
		Communist Party at the time, a woman who, I can't remember her name, but I was just watching a video on this the other day.
		You know, these links always exist, and for And for this to be dismissed as conspiracy theory nonsense is, again, ridiculous.
		And I think a lot of security experts who haven't been paid off by other foreign intelligence would probably agree with that assessment.
		But as I said, the CTCL, which is the Center for Tech and Civic Life, this is another place where the claws of big tech reach.
		It's couched as a nonprofit election reform group, but it's funded by Mark Zuckerberg and his wife Priscilla Chan, who both donated $250 million.
		And they give hundreds of millions.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you want to know what these people do, and let's get into this in the next segment before we get into Arizona, because I've got a couple examples.
		We're still writing these up, so I'm not going to say specific cities.
		But they go to, hey, medium-sized Democratic stronghold in the state of Wisconsin, We're worried you're going to go purple this year, so we're going to give you, I don't know, $750,000 to put up a Dropbox, to put up a mailbox where people can drop off their mail-in votes.
		And if you will just do a plan, if you hire five people and you write up on Microsoft Word a plan for how to secure the election against Russian hackers, we'll give you another $200,000.
		I mean, what are they doing with this money?
		It's totally insane.
		And this is just Zuckerberg?
		And Facebook and Big Tech throwing money into Democrat hellholes like Philadelphia, like Chicago, like these voter fraud meccas.
		And then, of course, we wonder what happened on November 3rd.
		So, Jack, in the next segment, I want to get into that and I want to get into Arizona, but I want to just take a minute here and think about that.
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		So Jack, let's Really quick here, prelude this a little bit.
		Let's go back to the Center for Tech and Civic Life, because these people, we need to report on them a million times more.
		It's just so ridiculously complex.
		But just expand on them a little bit for me, because it baffles my mind that they're not on every single newscast every single hour for what they did in the election.
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
		You know, we reported on, I think it was literally the day before the election, when we were looking at the allegations that were, where they were being involved in, I think it was either it was either Pennsylvania or, yeah, no, it was multiple swing states, where they were engaged in this alleged ballot harvesting, which, as you mentioned, you know, involve these drop boxes, or various ballot receiving points.
		where people could take, where the political operatives could collect the absentee and all mail-in ballots from voters and then drop them off at a polling place themselves.
		Obviously, that is massively open, you know, to voter fraud and, wow, just a coincidence that they're operating in the states that Trump lost.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		It's a mail-in vote.
		It's a mail-in boat.
		It comes to you in your mailbox.
		Why do we need a dropbox on the corner of 2nd and Market?
		It comes in the mailbox.
		You put it back in the mailbox.
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		It's fraud.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back.
		I am Tom Paffert, your guest host tonight here with Jack Hadfield, a very good reporter at National File, if I do say so myself.
		And we've been talking about kind of what's going on with this Electoral College fight, which are the senators and representatives who are backing Mo Brooks and President Trump, which are not.
		But Jack, the big thing that you've been focused on has been Arizona.
		And we made the conscious decision going into this on November 4th and 5th, as we looked at the writing on the wall, we said, all right, Arizona and Georgia are the two most over the top, obvious examples, in my estimation.
		And they're also the two states that we have Republican governors.
		So you, despite being based out of the UK, you decided to completely invert your sleeping schedules.
		You are like a night person now.
		You are nocturnal.
		So you can cover the fraud happening in the state of Arizona.
		And Arizona, I mean, we are like on the cusp, it feels like, of something big.
		if these legislators, Republicans by and large, will do the right thing.
		So we had, of course, last week, we preluded that they were going to have this legislative hearing in the Arizona State Senate.
		They had the hearing, and it was better than we could have hoped.
		They subpoenaed the Dominion servers last week.
		They gave them until Friday.
		Not just the servers, by the way.
		They wanted the Dominion machines, the Dominion software, and the ballots for Maricopa County.
		And Maricopa County came back and just said, nah, we took a vote.
		We're going to break the law.
		We're going to deny the subpoena.
		We're going to fight it.
		What the hell, Jack?
		Do I get to vote?
		If I break the law and rob a bank, do I get to vote not to get arrested?
		What kind of Mickey Mouse kangaroo insanity is this?
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Well, I suppose, you know, because every vote counts in a democracy, then your vote counts so that you don't get arrested when you commit a crime.
		I believe that's how it works now these days.
		Again, you know, regardless of the legitimacy of your vote and regardless of whether the vote should matter, every vote should be counted and we will enact whatever everybody wants to do all the time.
		That certainly seems to be the logic The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors has been following.
		But yes, as you said, there was the legislative session in the Arizona Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday, which we covered.
		And, you know, I just had it in the background.
		It was mostly talking about, because they had people from the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors there basically explaining how the election was done and sort of trying to debunk All the election fraud claims that they could.
		There was deliberately no idea of the fraud being discussed, because obviously that had all been brought out in the previous hearing.
		So the committee members knew all of the evidence beforehand, and they wanted to focus on how elections were conducted.
		But yes, we're just hearing.
		I was then just watching the end of it, and then I hear the chair of the committee, State Senator Eddie Farnsworth, Um, announced that they will be issuing subpoenas in order to form a full forensic audit of the ballots and the Demilian voting machines and software used in Maricopa.
		Uh, you know, and he said, you know, if we perform an audit and everything is done perfectly, that's great.
		But if not, then they'll be able to put a lot of the stuff to rest.
		So the subpoenas were then issued on Wednesday, which is a very fast turnaround.
		And they were issued Um, to include a number of things from Maricopa County, uh, including the, um, uh, uh, as we said, the, uh, software, uh, you see, it called for a scan ballot audit, um, to, to, to, to create an electronic image of all the ballots that were scanned, uh, to check them.
		And then a, uh, an audit of the, of the software equipment and the managing system itself.
unidentified		This comes, by the way, I just want to throw in some background.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Because there was, in Michigan, they did an audit, a partial audit, an independent audit, and they found that these things are rigged.
		They found that they're designed so you can influence the outcome of an election.
		Everything that Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani and everybody else, us, everything we've been researching and alleging was found to be real when they did it in Michigan.
		So now, but that was not a government body.
		That was not The Arizona State Senate.
		Now the Arizona State Senate wants to do the same thing in Maricopa County using actual live machines that Americans and Arizonans specifically voted on on November 3rd.
		And Maricopa County suddenly has a problem with this.
		And by the way, their legal, their lawyer is this guy, he's the son of the one and only Gordon Liddy.
		And I guess the apple in this case falls very, very, very, very, very far from the tree.
		I don't quite understand this.
		They say that they cannot do this.
		They can't do an audit.
		They can't give up the Dominion machines because of the ongoing litigation from the Arizona GOP.
		They say that it's impossible.
		They say their lawyer won't let them.
		Meanwhile, you have actual legions of lawyers, constitutional scholars, saying, what are you talking about?
		That makes no sense.
		It will not impact ongoing litigation.
		By the way, the Arizona GOP, Dr. Kelly Ward, its chair says it's not going to impact ongoing litigation.
		So this is just this bizarre.
		And the guy, the board of supervisors, the guy who sat there and spoke, he acted like a sad little crying girl who was saying, "I felt hurt when they issued the subpoenas "after I talked to them for three hours." It was like a slap in the face.
		I mean, they are slapping millions of Arizonans and I don't know, 70, 80 million American Trump voters in the face with this.
		And they just think it's going to go on.
		So you ended up talking to some legislators in Arizona to kind of see what happens next.
		I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous.
		And I think what's going to happen is there is now a renewed call because Maricopa County is choosing not to comply with the law.
		I mean, Roger Stone, they tried to put him in prison for this.
		Maricopa County does it.
		It's nothing.
		So it looks like there may be a new call for a legislative session.
		I'm sorry, a special session of the legislature where they can retract their power to assign delegates and they can either assign them to Trump or not assign them at all.
		It seems like there's a renewed call for this and potentially a little bit more political capital now that you have Maricopa County looking very, very guilty.
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
		You know, we spoke to Arizona State Representative Antony Kern on Friday.
		I think it was Friday.
		Sorry, but with my sleep schedule being so off, as you mentioned, all the sort of days and nights all blur into one, especially if I'm, you know, going to bed, you know, in the sunlight and waking up When it's dark outside at around four o'clock in the afternoon.
		But yes, you know, we spoke to Representative Kern about the decision, you know, from the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.
		Again, in fact, one of the things that's also important to mention is that the Board of Supervisors was made up of five people and they voted four to one.
		And they're made up of four Republicans and one Democrat.
		And only one Republican voted against this.
		The other three voted with it and then voted with the Democrat.
		And the Democrat, Steve Gallardo, he said the subpoenas were simply a sideshow created by the legislature.
		He said he's not interested in playing games, political theatre, or interested in trying to satisfy a small, small group of loud participants at the expense of a certified tabulation system.
		Which, I mean, the absolute gall of this man, you know, to say that, oh, it's a certified tabulation system, and he says, I believe this election is over.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		There's 70 million plus of us, dude.
		I don't know what you're, I mean, I guess compared to the billions of Chinese communists, maybe that's small, but here in the United States, we're a pretty big contingent of the population.
		And then yes, when that guy got up there, I mean this, and by the way, again, this is the weirdest time in American history because you have two people on a national news show who are talking about the Arizona Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.
		Have you ever heard of such a thing?
		And did you ever think some Democrat on something called the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors would say that you sitting at home are a small and insignificant and loud and stupid minority who's just trying to do a sideshow attraction to distract From what?
		I mean, he doesn't even say what.
		It's absolutely bizarre that this little loser, this lying, anti-Constitution, anti-America, likely commie individual has this much power over America.
		So let's talk.
		You talked, like you said, with Representative Kern, state representative there in Arizona.
		He essentially said that there is a growing coalition of Arizona legislature, of Arizona legislators, I should say, You are ready and willing and able to fight and call for this emergency session.
		They can do it now, they believe, and I don't know who's going to stop them.
		I don't know what lawyer is going to crawl out of the woodwork and stop them, right?
		Maybe a judge in Hawaii.
		But they say that all they need now is a simple majority to get an immediate emergency legislative session going without Ducey, the governor, without his permission.
		They can now override him.
		So all you need are 51% of the Republicans in the Arizona State House.
		The Senate seems like it might be ready and willing to go to do this.
		I mean, that's just groundbreaking to me that we are this close with some phone calls and some legal and lawful pressure to potentially getting Arizona to flip.
		But Jack, you also found out that we might have another person willing to join the Electoral College fight, and that's Representative Andy Biggs.
		So it seems like, I mean, you've got this war in Arizona between the ghost of John McCain and the America First Party.
		I mean, how do we, would you agree with that?
		What's your analysis?
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that's exactly right.
		And this is something we highlighted either last week or a couple of weeks ago.
		Again, all of this All this time has blended into one and things that seemed, you know, like a few days ago only happened yesterday.
		I should be feeling the same, just like just with the amount of news that's been going on during the election period.
		But yeah, it is, you know, there is a split.
		And as I said, we reported on the split originally, when obviously you had Governor Ducey, I believe, Dr. Paul Gosar, who's the Representative for Arizona's fourth congressional district.
		You know, he shared a petition to recall Ducey, and Ducey also, of course, is a Republican.
		You know, and then he encouraged people to sign it.
		And yeah, you can definitely see this split between people like Governor Ducey and Speaker of the House of the Arizona House, Rusty Bowers, along with, again, obviously, Dr. Gosar himself, Representative Biggs, State Representatives Kelly Townsend, Anthony Kern.
		We have some great new people as well coming in.
		Mark Fincham, who handled the original Arizona hearings, and obviously Dr. Kelly Ward herself, who's the chair of the Arizona GOP.
		So certainly a lot of the party leadership It seems that the party leadership and the guys in Congress are very in favor of America First and President Trump's agenda.
		But the Arizona state leadership and executive, that at the moment is still captured by, as you said, the John McCain coalition.
		But obviously, there is this sort of neutral well, I should say neutral part of the party as well, which is something that Kern brought up, where he said that, you know, where he said when President Trump came to Arizona multiple times and a number of politicians stood behind him and, you know, he said, make America great again and so on. where he said when President Trump came to Arizona multiple
		And then they've been totally silent during this election and they haven't come up there at all.
		You know, Kern said, you know, where are they supporting the greatest president?
		You know, he's ever seen in his lifetime.
		He's out there fighting for us and fighting for the American people and the people of Arizona every single day.
		But yes, one of the pro-American first people we mentioned was Representative Andy Biggs, who's from Arizona's fifth congressional district.
		And Kern hinted to me that Biggs, who is currently the chair of the Congressional Freedom Caucus, is leaning towards not accepting Arizona's 11 Electoral College votes on January the 6th.
		So, Biggs would be joined, obviously, by Gates, who we mentioned earlier in the show, Mo Brooks, and others.
		And most likely, I would certainly assume that if Biggs would challenge the Electoral College votes, then certainly Dr. Gosar would as well.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		When Gosar is basically signed on, I don't know if he's Yeah, I don't know if he said it publicly, but I mean, he was like the first guy there when Mo Brooks did his letter calling for hearings.
		It was Dr. Paul Gosar.
		And I do have to say, that's one of the most fascinating parts of this.
		And when Alex Jones says that, you know, at this point, I don't know who's going to be sitting in the executive office on January 21st.
		But I know that we win either way.
		This is part of what he's talking about because we are essentially right now in the middle of a massive national roll call vote at every level of government to see who is going to stand with President Trump and America first and who hates us.
		I mean, that's what this comes down to.
		Ducey wants to spit in the face of everybody watching me right now.
		Ducey thinks you're scum.
		He thinks you're malleable.
		He thinks you're clay to be molded into whatever he wants.
		And you know what?
		If the Republican brand, if his wing of the Republican Party gets back in power, you're going to probably go and get to die in Iran for him.
		I mean, that's who Ducey is.
		That's how his brain works.
		Same with Kemp, by the way.
		And they're exposing themselves.
		You know, for years, Jack, they've been saying, I'm with President Trump.
		Oh, yeah, we're all Republicans.
		We're all hanging out honky dory, having a good time.
		And people like you and me, Jack, we've been seething because we know that these people aren't with Trump.
		We remember 2016 when they were doing everything they could to stop him.
		Well, now America is awake.
		You're getting a million people in D.C.
		with three days notice like it's no big deal.
		Now Trump is calling for his own massive D.C.
		rally, of course.
		America is awake.
		People like Ducey, like Kemp, even at the state level, the people who are siding with Trump now, they're going to be congressmen and U.S.
		reps and presidents.
		The people who are not siding with Trump, I hope China paid them very, very well because they're going to lose their taxpayer subsidized salary as soon as their next election comes up.
		Would you agree, Jack?
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I certainly would agree.
		And I think to compare this to the situation that's been going on in the UK regarding politics and changing leaders and capturing the parties and so on, you know, let's say, you know, we do lose the battle of 2020 and, you know, President Trump Um, you know, uh, is then booted out of office by, you know, uh, Joe Biden and his handlers at the DNC.
		Um, well then, as you said, on January the 6th, you know, well, yeah, and the CCP as well, who, who, who control the DNC, you know, there's just layers of it just going up.
		Um, uh, and then obviously right at the top you have, uh, Zuckerberg.
		Um, but, uh, yes.
		So, so, so, so, so we will then know, uh, exactly who to primary.
		Who to run out of town, and exactly, you know, who to replace in 2022 and 2024.
		I think if 2020 turns out to be, well, for example, well, we already have a lot of new patriots who do support America First, who came up in the primaries, you know, just this congressional race.
		And I think what we're going to see now is If 2020 could very much turn out like 2017 for the UK, in which Theresa May, you know, she sort of took power and sort of promoted a Brexit name earlier and sort of got hammered a bit at the polls.
		But at the other Brexit stuff, she started promoting this agenda, which was You know, moving away from the old sort of liberal conservative thing that Cameron and his partner in Liberal Democrats, Nick Clegg, had been promoting, and towards a more properly conservative agenda that appeals to the working class.
		Now, while they lost a number of seats in 2017, there was one seat close to me in Mansfield, which had been Labour, the left-wing party, since the early 20th century.
		And the Conservative MP just got in on a knife edge.
		And now he is probably one of the most conservative.
		I mean, he's been very strong on protecting women's rights with transgenders against Black Lives Matter, standing up for the culture war, and so on and so forth.
		And then in 2019, He came in with a massive majority in his seat, kept it, and went up to 16,000 votes.
		And along with him came all the others from the Red Wall in the north of England, where everybody then came in together.
		And he was just that first little wave.
		And I think we can see now this first little wave of America versus just creeping in in the 2020 Congressional elections, who managed to successfully primary people.
		Guarantee you.
		I absolutely guarantee you.
		That we will see far, far, far more America Firsters and Trump loyalists in 2022 and 2024, no matter what happens on January the 20th this year.
		I guarantee you that people who are so annoyed with the establishment Republicans and are so frustrated at seeing what they are doing to this country, you know, who say, oh, you know, we'll, you know, you'll, you'll, you'll You'll always vote for Republicans, so we'll always have your vote.
		They won't always vote for you in the primary.
		People may still be coupled to the Republicans in wherever, but it doesn't matter who's wearing that Republican banner.
		So if we get you in the primary, that's it, bucko.
		You're done.
		You're out.
		You're gone.
		And this is going to happen across the board.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I have two things I want to add.
		I mean, one of those things is, by the way, I mean, These legislators that Jack is talking to, to those at home who are skeptical we're ever going to get another good election, if it's at all within the power of people like Representative Kern in Arizona, Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania, all across the country, they are going to work very, very hard to get rid of this Dominion voting system garbage before the next election.
		The problem is, Nobody wants to talk about that right now, myself included, because I'm very much invested in what happened on November 3rd.
		But I also want to add a message to the people that are thinking, well, Mitch McConnell is safe.
		Nobody's ever going to primary him.
		And you may well be right.
		But the fact is, Mitch McConnell in Wichita, Kansas, in the state of Kansas, I should say, Mitch McConnell wasted Republican money.
		He spent millions of dollars making sure Chris Kobach did not win the Senate primary here in Kansas.
		That's a primary.
		That's not a general election.
		He's meddling in affairs that should not matter to him, but he knew Roger Marshall would be more of a McConnell-controlleded individual than Chris Kobach.
		And so McConnell is wasting money right now.
		He's got so much money that he can blow it on primaries so he gets his loyalists in.
		Now, McConnell, I promise you, in six years—God, I wish I didn't have to wait that long, maybe we can recall you—you're not going to have this kind of extra money.
		You are going to need every single cent in your coffer to pay for your own campaign.
		You're going to need a billion dollars to keep your little seat there in Kentucky, because we're going to raise so much money and so much hell That's what we're talking about here.
		And by the way, if you make us go through that, Mitch McConnell, then what do you think is going to happen in the general election?
		You won't be majority leader anymore.
		Nobody will ever call you leader again.
		That's the stakes that the establishment needs to understand we're at, Jack.
		I mean, We're gonna make their lives hell, legally, politically, lawfully.
		We're young guys.
		We may not be the healthiest, happiest people in the world, but Jack, I don't know about you, I'm perfectly willing to spend the next 40 years of my life making McConnell's life hell on earth.
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, like, I will, you know, take as much cocaine as Mitch McConnell himself, you know, to stay up 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, you know, fighting, you know, to get these people out and get Proper patriots in.
		But as you mentioned, you know, all of that really is in the future.
		And the fight with that, for me, would only start on January the 20th, 2021 at 12.01pm if President Trump is not in the White House.
		But for now, all of our energy must be focused on giving him the best possible chance We can, to secure his election victory.
		And of course, encouraging people to vote in favour of the President on January 6th will of course help us in that further mission as well.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		No, you and I both, Jack, I don't know if we've had a full night's sleep since all this began, and I don't intend to until that night in January when President Trump is hopefully inaugurated for the second time.
		So, Jack, obviously we're going into Christmas week here.
		We've got more news on the SolarWinds hack.
		We're going to discuss that in the next segment with another writer.
		But what are you looking at as we go into this Christmas week?
		The Democrats surely, as if they have not already, will try to ruin Christmas.
		What's on your radar going into this next week?
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Well, as you said, certainly what on earth the response from the Arizona Senate will be regarding the subpoenas.
		And obviously that will be crucial in terms of seeing what the challenge is going to go on there.
		Because as you said, I really can't see how the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors has any leg to stand on stand on at all in terms of rejecting the subpoenas itself.
		Obviously, you know, you could disagree with them, but to reject them is crazy.
		So that's going to be what I will definitely be focusing on.
		In the next week or so, certainly with Arizona and, of course, also the challenges to the Electoral College votes on the work being done by Mo Brooks and now being supported by Matt Gates and potentially being supported by Tommy Tuberville as well.
		I think I think, um, ensuring that Tuberville will stand with the president on January the 6th.
		I think we'll certainly see something tomorrow along those lines.
		coming out within next week.
		I'm sure because obviously, you know, with us breaking that Gates has said, you know, he will do so.
		And obviously with Gates endorsing our reporting, I think we'll certainly see something tomorrow along those lines.
		But honestly, what I'm looking forward to the most next week is a little bit of sleep on Christmas. - As I'm sure you will be as well.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		I think we all could use that.
		Hopefully we can have at least one day without, I don't know, a thermonuclear war kicking off.
		I don't want to jinx it.
		Maybe I need to find some wood to knock on here.
		Jack Hadfield, your analysis is phenomenal as always.
		Tell folks where they can follow you.
		By the way, Jack, you're getting bigger on alt tech.
		I know we're both becoming the big proponents of alt tech.
		Gab, yeah, I'm a big fan of Gab.
		You can follow National File on Gab.
		Jack, you're on, you were one of the first Gab members.
		You're at JH on Gab.
		Tell folks where they can find you, everybody, everywhere else.
jack hadfield ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course, as you said, you can find me at JH on Gab.
		You can also find me at Jack Hadfield on Parler.
		And you can now find me on Twitter, also at Jack Hadders, as you can then see on the screen.
		You know, and obviously, and you'll get to see the same news that the congressman and other very important people do as well.
		So, you know, if you want to stay in their leagues, then well, then obviously, obviously, you have to go and follow me on Twitter and all my other social medias as well.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		Well, Jack Hadfield, thank you so much for going on.
		It's like past midnight over in the UK, so thanks for staying up late, and I look forward to kicking the crap out of the leftists again on Monday.
unidentified		Me too, just about.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jack Hadfield, everybody.
		Thanks again for coming on, Jack.
		So I just want to take a couple minutes.
		We've got another guest coming up.
		He's going to break down all of the solar winds hack information.
		The media obviously wants you to believe this is China, China, China.
		I mean, sorry, this is Russia, Russia, Russia.
		In reality, it's China, China, China.
		And that plays in directly to everything Jack was just talking about.
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unidentified		Everything you need to know about SolarWinds.
unidentified		Man, how can you interrupt the highwayman?
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		That is, uh, that is phenomenal music.
		You're watching, of course, InfoWars Sunday Night Broadcast.
		I am Tom Pappert filling in as guest host tonight.
		And for those who haven't heard, this SolarWinds hack, the media will not shut up about it, which generally tells you they're lying.
		And the big lie, in my estimation, seems to be that it was Russia that did this.
		SolarWinds, of course, their Orion platform, their Orion software is almost ubiquitous.
		Just about every single government agency, every major financial institution uses this thing.
		It's been claimed that those who are responsible for this espionage hack have been able to get like the nuclear codes.
		I mean, they have everything you could imagine, or at least they had access to it back in March.
		And this was just announced a few days ago.
		Well, since then, National Files' Andrew White has been busy exposing every single link between solar winds and China.
		So, Andrew White, thank you so much for coming on the broadcast.
		Let's start with this character named Kenneth Howe.
		And I'll just let you break it down because I will get carried away.
		But this guy, it's insane.
		I mean, how is this not a national security risk?
		I'll let you take it away, Andrew White.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Well, first, I'd like to thank you and everyone on this show for letting me come on and tell this story that the people deserve to know.
		But to answer your question, this is absolutely a national security concern.
		This guy, Ken Howe, according to his SolarWinds bio, is also a managing partner and managing director at Silver Lake.
		And according to the Washington Post, Silver Lake is a $75 billion investment firm that has done high-profile tech deals with Airbnb, Dell, and Twitter.
		But this firm sold over $100 million in SolarWinds shares six days before the breach was announced.
		Along with Silver Lake, a firm called Tama Bravo also sold over $100 million.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Wow, I did not know that about Tom at Bravo.
		But Ken Howe, I mean, on the SolarWinds website, they brag that Ken Howe led the establishment of Silver Lake, the $75 billion private equity firm, into China.
		Ken Howe, Chinese billionaire, business mogul extraordinaire, genius, capable of bringing the Silicon Valley tech booming private equity group into China.
		I mean, they brag about this.
		They're saying that this guy is a great businessman because he has the kind of Chinese connections you need to bring a Silicon Valley based private equity firm into China.
		I mean, Andrew, that just doesn't happen.
		Like, you can't bring a business into China.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		To add to that, they also brag that he led the Silver Lake Investments into the Alibaba Group.
		And for those who don't know what Alibaba Group is, it's basically Chinese Amazon.
		So it's not just China, but it's also Chinese Amazon.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		And all of these, I mean, Go ahead, go ahead.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
		Yeah.
		So, uh, I, I tried to look into this guy too, to find out like who he was, how he made all his money and like the things that he's done.
		And, um, on the internet, there's really nothing there, uh, prior to his time at Harvard for the, he went to Harvard.
		Um, don't know how he paid for it.
		We don't know really anything about him at all.
		He's a total ghost.
		So it's, it's really quite baffling that, uh, no one is, uh, kind of paying attention to this.
		And he's not the only board, uh, director at SolarWinds that has ties to China.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's go into the second guy and then maybe we can wrap back around to Kenneth Howe, but, but the second character, I mean, it's like, how do you have, it's bad enough.
		You have one person who is tied to China on your board.
		How do you manage to have to go into this guy behind Toma Bravo or Toma Bravo and how he bought J.D.
		Power from, from the Chai comms?
		I mean, who the hell even knew they owned J.D.
		Power, but this guy got it back.
		This great Patriot, right?
		Break this down for us.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Mr. Seth Borough, who's also on the board of directors at SolarWinds.
		And actually, according to SolarWinds, he's currently serving on the board of directors of several software and technology service companies in which certain investment funds advised by Tama Bravo hold an investment.
		So this guy basically helped start Tama Bravo, which is one of the Firms that Washington Post reported also dumped stock hundreds of millions of dollars.
		If this wasn't insider trading, then this was one of the most brilliant stock maneuvers that I have ever seen in my life.
		Just off a hunch.
		Off a hunch.
		Saved hundreds of millions of dollars.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Didn't Martha Stewart go to prison for this?
		I mean, I'm not accusing them of a crime, but it seems like these guys have like Nostradamus abilities to predict the future.
		This hack happens in March.
		Nobody knows about it until seven days ago or whatever it was.
		It just came out.
		And meanwhile, these guys, this company, all the, Tama Bravo, Silver Lake, who just so happened to share a board member with the guy on Solar, with the SolarWinds, They all dump everything.
		They all dump all their money.
		It's almost like they knew.
		I mean, where the hell is the U.S.
		government on this?
		You would think that people would be, at the very least, being questioned by some three-letter agencies about their role.
		But the story gets better, Andrew, because you've exposed, I mean, first it came out that people thought they had smoking gun evidence that Dominion voting systems, yes, that Dominion voting system, they used, or so people thought, The Orion suite that has been hacked by SolarWinds.
		But it turns out they have denied this.
		But I'll let you break it down because we know for a fact that Dominion uses at least one SolarWinds product.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Tom, it was on their website.
		They literally had links and references to SolarWinds on the Dominion website.
		And as soon as all of this news of the breach came out, they actually removed Any references and links to SolarWinds off of the website, like it never existed.
		These aren't the droids you're looking for.
		So yeah, Dominion denies using the compromised Orion platform, but I've actually found out that they do use SolarWinds products, specifically the Serv-U product.
		So they do use SolarWinds products.
		There is a tie between SolarWinds and Dominion.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		And so they just deny using the hacked one.
		That's exactly right.
		We should be investigating the government, the powers that be.
		We should be demanding that they investigate.
		Because if they're using one SolarWinds product, well, they certainly seem to release a statement suggesting they use zero.
		So that means they use 100% more than they claim they use.
		So let's find out if they use Orion.
		And let's find out who had the ability to look at this.
		Were we exporting The SolarWinds Orion platform was, from what we know, compromised in March.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		- Well, the thing is Tom, they, the SolarWinds Orion platform was from what we know compromised in March.
		So this breach has been going on long through the 2020 election on election day.
		I mean, we just found out about this stuff a few days ago, and they just told people in the government to power down and get rid of this.
		So stop using the SolarWinds Orion stuff.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		And so now, and by the way, it's just mind-boggling to me, COVID and the hack, this virus that came and infested the entire United States government, both seem to show up, maybe from China, in March of this year.
		That's very peculiar to me that both seem to coincide at the same time.
		Let's talk about the implications of this, because everybody's been talking about this 2018 executive order.
		If you've been watching InfoWars, Alex has been talking about it since 2018.
		But DNI Ratcliffe, the Director of National Intelligence, he had until like three days ago to compile a report about possible foreign election interference.
		He has not done so.
		And meanwhile, we have this SolarWinds thing going on.
		So what might this indicate, Andrew?
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Well, the audience should know that DNI Ratcliffe actually told CBS News that China, Russia, and Iran have, in fact, interfered in the 2020 election.
		And it just so happens that around the same time that the SolarWinds breach is denounced, the DNI delayed his report on foreign election interference.
		And this was because there is an intra-intelligence community So, I have a feeling that the two might be connected.
		And another thing is that the questions that we should be asking are, did China hack SolarWinds to use it as a Trojan horse to get to the back door of Dominion voting systems?
		Throughout the election.
		That is the question that I'm asking and I think the people deserve an answer because this is, you literally cannot make this stuff up.
		What are the odds that Silver Lake and Toma Bravo dump hundreds of millions of dollars in stock and they have ties to the Chinese literally six days before this breach is announced?
		It's absurd.
		Another thing is the media initially called it, the media initially said it was Russia, and they're saying Russian this, it's believed to be Russians, believed to be that.
		And even President Trump tweeted, the media always says Russia, Russia, Russia, and it's because they have financial reasons not to look at China.
		Because if they talk about China, it goes against the rules, you know, the plan.
		So they can't call it out for what it is.
		And it's a disservice to the truth, and it's a disservice to the American people.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		And everybody is saying, I mean, like, this shadowy Russian group that takes credit for everything, has taken credit for it.
		And so now the media, the media industrial complex, is just eagerly repeating this.
		I mean, it's insanity.
		It's like when ISIS takes responsibility, every time somebody breaks wind at the airport, ISIS says it was a successful biochemical attack.
		So that's what we're seeing now.
		And nobody actually wants to do any actual investigating.
		We're even seeing some conflict in the White House, where you have Mike Pompeo, the venerable man from right here in Kansas, saying that he believes it is Russia.
		Well, Pompeo's been a Russia hawk.
		He said in a TV studio in my TV station in 2013 that Vladimir Putin is a glorified gangster who the United States should be living in total and complete paralyzed fear of.
		You cannot trust these people to have an impartial or balanced perspective on this.
		And you're right, it is a disservice to the truth.
		It's a disservice to the American people.
		But that seems to be the media's job, to give us disservice after disservice.
		So now President Trump is making more moves.
		So talk about a little bit, if you can, what has been the reaction from the White House in the days since the SolarWinds hack went live, or went public, I should say.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Well, according to CNN, on Friday there was a meeting in the White House.
		General Flynn was there, Sidney Powell was there, and CNN initially reported that they were talking about martial law, they were talking about possibly naming Sidney Powell as a special counsel to investigate voter fraud.
		Since then, we found out that the martial law claim, Trump said it was fake news, but There's been so much news on that.
		Sidney Powell as a special counsel did in fact happen.
		And I just would note that Sidney Powell in her Georgia lawsuit provided evidence from someone in the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion that said China and Iran were accessing Dominion servers in Germany.
unidentified		And so naming her as a special counsel- There's been so much news on that.
unidentified		Go ahead.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		If they named her as special counsel, she'd probably do something with regards to this solar winds hack.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		I have a feeling she knows a little bit more than we do about China, Dominion, and SolarWinds.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		I think you may be right about that.
		And so, just today, as I was doing my notes, getting ready to come on, I just didn't have time to even examine it.
		So, Smartmatic, which is, of course, one of these voting companies that's been alleged to have ties to Dominion, to Chavez, to the Chinese Chai Coms, etc.
		Smartmatic has sent Sidney Powell a demand for retraction, saying that she is disparaging their company, that she's lying about them by saying all of these things that seem to be at least somewhat provably true.
		And so I think that we're now into the phase of intimidation.
		And so, Andrew, I'm just curious to get your thoughts on that.
		I mean, when you get a lawyer letter, it does, I don't know, maybe Sidney Powell, she sends the lawyer letter, so it probably doesn't faze her as much as it does us normal people.
		But it does kind of make your heart skip a beat, and you're sitting there thinking, no, I'm just telling the truth.
		I'm doing everything right.
		How are you going to do this to me?
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Tom, it's a joke.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		It's a joke.
unidentified		It is.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Because, yeah, even the State Department in the early 2000s put out A document that basically outlines their concerns that they have with Smartmatic.
		In fact, I might have referenced it in one of my recent articles, but they say that the owners of Smartmatic are a mystery, and it switches all the time, and they used it to get Maduro, or not Maduro, Chavez in Venezuela.
		It's a Venezuelan election rigging machine, basically.
		So yeah, I know Lin Wood posted his response to all of this Smartmatic.
		He said, file your suit.
		It's a joke, man.
		They can try to deny it, but even the federal government has literally stated their concerns that they have with Smartmatic.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		I do have to say, I was very excited to read Lin Wood's response because One of my favorite catchphrases, discovery will be very fun.
		I cannot wait.
		I hope it goes to trial, and I hope Linwood gets to look at every single Smartmatic email, memo, text message, everything, because I would love to see what it exposes, unless maybe they're like the mafia.
		Maybe they don't write things down or talk on the telephone.
		Who the hell knows?
		Who the hell knows?
		But you brought up something there that I think is key, which is this, The Smartmatic, this all goes back a very long ways.
		I mean, you used to have Democrats after the Bush-Gore election saying that we need all paper ballots and no machinery, we need to go back to the olden days because you can't trust this stuff.
		Well now, here we are, 20 years down the line, and everybody is, we were all just supposed to have forgotten this.
		Something else, because you talked about this with the Smartmatic, how their ownership changes every six months.
		And it's very similar to these corrupt companies or these illegal companies that host like, and I'm not kidding, Pornhub as an example, porn websites.
		That's what they do.
		They have a PO box in Serbia where six different companies are addressed and they all sell to each other constantly and you can't track down the owner.
		Smartmatic, very, very similar.
		Dominion, extraordinarily similar.
		And so something that I wanted to bring up is How do these companies, I mean, what would you think?
		How do you make that pitch?
		If you are sitting in some House of Representatives somewhere, somebody says, yeah, the owner of this, actually, let's, here's how we can compare this.
		This was national news in 20, I believe it was 19 or 16 or 18, when this SolarWinds board member Seth Borough bought J.D.
		Power, the American car rating company, or formerly American car rating company, from XIO, which is a Chinese and or Hong Kong company.
		And XIO, we have no idea who owns it.
		We don't know where the funding came from.
		But in 2016, they were allowed to buy the people who make sure that your airbag is safe.
		That's essentially what they did.
		Break that down.
		Just kind of explain, expand on that for us.
		This is who runs our economy.
		Weird Chinese company is called Zio.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, even the Wall Street Journal said Zio was mysterious.
		It is in fact a very sketchy company and we don't know how they amassed these billions of dollars.
		I checked out their website and it looks almost like spam.
		I don't even know how Like, why is Tama Bravo even associating with Chow Group, and how did they get that much money?
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		And because that's what then happened.
		So they bought it in 2016 for 1.1 billion dollars, and everybody is saying, I don't know if this is legal, I don't know if this is ethical, we're selling this company to people, we don't know who the hell they are.
		And then, three years later, I think we'd be talking five months before this SolarWinds hack, by the way, That is when Seth Borrows' Tama Bravo buys back J.D.
		Power from the Chi-Coms, now it's owned by an American private equity firm.
		Meanwhile, I mean, like three months later, or I guess this was August of 19, so what is that, like five or six months later in March, This hack happens.
		It's all just very, very peculiar, and we're not expected to question any of it.
		So, Andrew, you mentioned that, yes, we know we have two sources who confirm that the Oval Office meeting and arguments did happen.
		The arguments, we're told, were not about martial law.
		The arguments were about a special counsel to investigate Election fraud.
		So Andrew, we've got a few days left here before Christmas.
		It's going to be a very weird week because we're going to be expected to take two days off somehow.
		I don't think the news cycle will do it with us.
		Where are you?
		What's on your radar going into this last, really one of the last weeks of the year?
		What's on your radar?
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say that the most important takeaway right now is that SolarWinds, a company that was compromised in March, has Financial ties to Tama Bravo and Silver Lake, who have conducted business in China.
		That is a big deal.
		Another takeaway would be that SolarWinds and Dominion voting systems also have ties.
		So I think that the Justice Department, the FBI, I implore them to dig deeper into SolarWinds.
		I know that this alleged or supposed raid happened in Austin, Texas.
		Um, hopefully we hear more about that.
		And, uh, like, but the media always says Russia, Russia, Russia.
		And for the last four years, they've been claiming that our election systems, our voting machines were hacked by the Russians.
		Okay.
		Right.
		Even the New York Times, or, uh, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the New York Times did a whole video where this guy in Michigan ran a fraudulent election against another school.
		And then obviously, The results were wrong, and so he tells his students, here are the real results.
		And so, it's been basically a normal part of public discourse over the last four years that Russia supposedly hacked our election and our voting machines.
		And so, given that, as my father always says, who stands to gain from this breach?
		If Trump is supposedly with the Russians, then why would the Russians hack him in March?
		And basically, what does Russia gain from a Biden presidency?
		Nothing.
		So even if you're one of those people that believes the whole Trump Russia stuff, then It just, it wouldn't make sense for Russia to do it.
		China has every reason to.
		And even the State Department, Mike Pompeo himself, went to Georgia Tech and said how the communist menace is the biggest threat to national security in the United States.
		They've been stealing intellectual property for years and years and years using cyber, sophisticated cyber methods to do this stuff.
		So, is it really that hard to figure out?
		Like, all it took was a few clicks.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		That's something that I want you to expand on, because that's what people don't understand.
		I mean, citizen journalism is very, if you are smart, if you watch Infowars, you are a citizen journalist in the making already.
		And to break that down, because your intellectual curiosity is about a thousand times what, we broke this story, National File, not Let's see, I don't know, some big conservative ones, The Daily Wire, not The Daily Caller, not Fox News, National Violent Andrew White.
		And it's because you did what?
		You went to the website, you did some research, you Googled names.
		I mean, essentially, that's what this is.
		You started digging, you went deeper, you went deeper, and before you know it, it's like, oh my bleep, we have a smoking gun connection to the Chi-Coms.
		I want folks to understand, That's how simple this is.
		It's phenomenal work, not to discount what you did, but that's how much our media hates us and loves to lie to us.
		They won't even do this basic level of work.
		Go ahead, go ahead.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Tom, well the thing, the difference between us and mainstream news is that Our only interest, literally our only interest, is to deliver the truth to the people, to report on the stuff that people at Fox News, they said it was Russia, CNN, everyone's saying.
		We report on the stuff that they won't because they have interests.
		Their interests are to make money.
		And to benefit the New World Order, all part of the plan.
		They are an extension of the bureaucratic behemoth that resides in DC.
		And people like me, people like you, people all over this country who are not stupid are doing their research.
		They are looking into this great lie that we're being told.
		And I am just beyond thankful that you and people on InfoWars and Nationalphile have given me the platform to be able to just give everyone the things that they ought to hear.
		And I mean, bless all of you, because this is I mean, what we're living through right now, I'm 22 years old.
		I was, you know, under this impression, I mean, I didn't even really care about anything until Trump ran.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		You thought we lived in a real country.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		Now you've found out over the past four years.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		Now I know that over the last, like, 30 years, China's just been slowly taking over our country and now it's gotten to the point where our election is completely fraudulent.
		Integrity in the election is gone.
		Even if the Republicans win in the Senate in Georgia, even if the things go our way from the vote and from all these elections and stuff, we don't trust them anymore.
		And it's just a shame.
		So this fraud needs to be addressed now.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what it is.
andrew white ▲ ● ▼		All of this needs to be addressed now because it's almost too late.
tom pappert ▲ ● ▼		If they don't do it now, we're not going to have a republic.
		We're not going to have faith in the election system.
		It's all over.
		Andrew White, follow him on Parler.
		Thank you all so much for tuning in.
		Thank you, Andrew, for coming on.
		Tomorrow morning, Owen will be filling in for Alex, is my understanding. - Separately, I gotta find my operation.
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