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July 7, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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How Can I Be So BOOMER? Twitter/X Space
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Good evening, good evening, everybody.
Stefan Molynu from Free Domain.
Thank you for joining me tonight, Friday night live.
And I hope you're having a glorious evening.
For the last two days or so, people have been very angry with me.
I understand.
I sympathize.
We will get into it.
And everything that's been going on and why.
Because y'all have been part of a social experiment.
And I will tell you the purpose of that social experiment.
I hope you will forgive me for not being bald-faced, pony soldier up front with you, but there's a reason why.
And I hope that this will be something that will be highly instructive for you and bring you closer to love, truth, reason, and all kinds of good things.
I have my trusty, dusty headphones here so we can take calls later.
But I'm going to start because everyone says, oh, Steph, you boomer.
How dare you?
How dare you try to understand what is going on at the dating market, you crusty old bastard who's not been in the dating market for a quarter century, especially over the last five to 10 years, women have gone mad.
So I'm going to make a case that you're right.
I'm going to make a case because I want you to understand that I understand.
I want you to understand that I understand because if I understand and disagree and I tell you why, and I'm again happy to take calls a little later, then hopefully it will make sense.
Like when I first got back on Twitter, one of the things that I posted kind of early on was I said, if you're embroiled in a conflict, what you need to do is you need to explain to the other person what his or her point of view is.
If you can't explain to the other person what his or her point of view is, the conflict is intractable.
It's unresolvable.
So that, of course, is my goal here tonight.
To tell you what I understand about what young men are going through in the modern West, and then to tell you why I did what I did over the last few days, which I understand strikes some of you, or struck some of you, as incomprehensible as boomerkuck or, you know, whatever it is, right?
Mangina extraordinaire, the superhero called Simptastic has finally taken the stage and has replaced the formerly rational brain of Steph with untold levels of low-tique cuckoldry.
So I understand that perspective.
I sympathize with that perspective.
So let me tell you.
So what are some of the things that young men are facing in the West at the moment?
In no particular order, I'm going to make this case strongly.
This is a steel man case.
When I was in the debating club, I was in the debating club in high school.
I was vice president of the debating club in university.
So I know how to argue both sides of the case.
So I'm going to put forward a steelman case as to how you're screwed as a young man in the West.
And then I'm going to tell you why I did what I did for the last two days.
And for some of you, I hope for most of you, it will be a breakthrough in understanding the world.
Sometimes you learn by reason and sometimes you learn by experience, right?
So the experience of the last two days, I will tell you what I was up to, what I was doing.
All right.
Let us count the ways in which you as a young man are screwed in the West.
Let's talk about economics.
So manufacturing jobs, which were the traditional ways that lower to middle class men provided for their families, have dropped from 17.2 million in 1980 to 12.8 million in 2020.
Later figures were a little hard to come by, but that is not at a time when the population has declined.
So the traditional stepping stone out of the lower class, the poor class to the middle class, was manufacturing, which has been absolutely eviscerated in America.
Now, of course, I'm not just going to talk about America, but I'm going to focus on America because that's where the majority of my listeners are.
And I want to follow the audience and hit them where they live, right?
Real median earnings for men aged 25 to 34 have remained nearly flat since the 1970s.
While median home prices have risen from 2020, from 2000 to 2020, adjusted for inflation, real wages are flat.
Median home prices have risen 121%, right?
That's much more than doubled.
Absolutely catastrophic.
So this economic squeeze, where wages have remained stagnant, job opportunities have declined while house prices have gone through the roof has completely screwed young men in terms of their confidence in their ability to provide for a family.
Because if you're not confident you can provide for a family, what are you bringing to the table?
And this inability for tens of millions of young men to effectively provide for a family has driven women into the 666 thing, right?
Six foot tall, six figures, a six pack.
They can now afford to look for the pretty boys because they don't need or can't get the providing boys.
So that's how men, one of the many examples in which men have been shafted in the modern economy.
At the same time as men's wages have been depressed, women's wages have been wildly, artificially elevated to truly stratospheric levels of HR email job fantasy nonsense.
This is why people got so mad at the dancing women in the office, you know, this itty bitty titty sitting a bar, all of that kind of stuff.
Because it's like, really was starting in the 1960s where you had equal pay for work of equal value, which was a bunch of legislation that made it illegal, illegal to pay women less than what was called equal pay for work of equal value, which makes zero sense whatsoever because you get what you Negotiate for, not what the government forces people to pay you.
That's a form of fascism.
That's a form of economic tyranny.
And of course, one of the reasons why women were paid less is because, oh, I don't know, continuing civilization seems like a pretty decent idea.
I know for a lot of young men, not at the moment, but continuing civilization seems like a pretty decent idea.
Now, to continue civilization, which is not just about dropping pops, squeezing out pops and dropping them off at daycare for people with bizarre accents to raise.
No, it's actually having children, staying home with the children, putting some of the man's values and the woman's values into the minds of the children.
Men don't pay women to raise their children.
We don't pay women to raise our children.
We could pay anyone, and it would be cheaper to just raise our children, to feed and clothe and play with them.
We pay women because 90% of a married man's income when he's got kids goes to his wife and children, 90%.
So what do we pay women for?
We pay women to transfer the values we both share into the minds of the children.
Civilization is not the buildings, it's not the houses, it's not the roads, it's not the money, it's not the GDP, goddamn GDP, this God that everyone sacrifices their juggulars for.
Civilization are the values that we have fought to achieve and maintain.
So if you want civilization to continue, women don't just have to have babies.
They've got to stay home and raise those babies so that the values of civilization can continue.
Now, if you have three kids and you give birth, you breastfeed for a year and a half, which is the recommended amount.
Then you look to have another baby.
It takes maybe a little while to get pregnant.
You've got nine months of pregnancy and then another 18 months and so blah, blah, blah.
We're talking at least to get the kids to school age, three kids?
Six to 10 years.
At a bare minimum.
To get the youngest to the age of five.
And often longer.
So that's six to ten years out of the workforce.
Now, if you are an employer and you have the choice between a young man and a young woman, when you have a Fecon society, a fertility-based society, do you want to hire the young man knowing that he's going to work harder when he has kids?
Or do you want to hire the young woman who's going to quit, probably?
If you want your civilization to continue, someone's going to have to transfer the values to the children.
And it ain't going to be the daycare workers, bros.
I worked in a daycare for years as a teenager.
This was not the trivium.
This was not a monastery where the intense and dedicated values of Greco-Roman Christian civilization would pass on to the tender minds of the young.
No, it was wrangling kids so that they didn't stuff Lego blocks down each other's throats.
But in order to lure women out of the home, the government had to artificially raise their wages, which meant that if you are a woman and you're at a particular position, you can take your employer to court if he's not paying you what you think you're worth.
In other words, the eternal cry of the younger sibling and others in society, ah, no fair, suddenly got the armed might of the state behind it.
Women were lured out of the home so that the government could take over the raising of the children and indoctrinate them with status values.
The women were lured out of the home with a bunch of things, right?
One, of course, old age pensions, the welfare state, and artificially high wages, and then endless initiatives.
I mean, I worked in an HR department in my early teens, and the DEI stuff, which we'll get to later, and all of that was in sort of full fledge and swing.
And of course, when businesses are forced to hire a lot of women, they have to create what are called the pink ghettos, which is the HR departments and training departments and all other sorts of things, which didn't really need to exist before women were lured and bribed into the workplace.
Now, just to be clear, I mean, this is sort of the steel man argument.
My personal opinion for what it's worth is that, yeah, women should be absolutely economically free to do whatever they want.
Absolutely economically free.
But at the same time, they shouldn't have access to men's taxpayer money through the power of the state.
So old age pensions meant that women didn't have to worry about getting old.
In other words, they didn't have to worry about having a very close bond with their children so their children would take care of them when they got old.
Artificially high wages meant that they didn't need men to be providers.
The growth of daycare meant that they could dump their kids in daycare, where kids go through elevated stress levels and have a terrible time of it overall.
And of course, women pouring into the workforce lowered the amount of money available to pay men.
Now, if you get highly productive people into the workforce, then everybody's wages go up.
But when you have people who kind of come and go, they don't work as hard.
Women don't work as hard as men statistically.
There's no hit on women.
I'm just talking about facts, right?
Women don't work as hard.
They don't go into as high paying professions and they tend to work with people, not things which is not as productive to the economy in terms of multiples of your productivity.
So when women poured into the workforce, men's wages were driven down.
I mean, we all know that the sort of feminist stuff is a sort of statist government program, wherein you get to lure women out of the home, you get control of the kids at an earlier age, you get to double tax the women because you tax the women, and then you also tax the daycare workers who are taking care of the children.
And it has just been a complete disaster for the children, right?
If we as a society worked on what was best for children, we would build our society from the ground up for that, which benefits children the most.
But this is not the case.
So this is just a real touch on the economics of it.
And with the DEI stuff, of course, if you're a male, it's tough enough.
If you're a white male, then you face discriminatory hiring practices, which are very much out in the open.
I know there's been a lot of pushback under Trump.
It's very much out in the open.
You can even see ads, right?
White males need not apply these kinds of things, right?
It further drives down the ability To have a family and makes you feel kind of hated and despised within your society, within your civilization.
So that's some of the economics.
Educationally, women are earning close to 60% of bachelor's degrees in the U.S., similar numbers in Canada.
Boys face higher rates of K to 12 disciplinary action suspensions two to three times higher for boys than girls.
This derails some academic progress.
And of course, school has been rejigged to benefit the girls.
This is like very much out in the open.
Girl power, education has to be better for girls than it is for boys.
So what happens?
Well, significant verbal skills, which girls develop earlier because of, you know, a lot of conversations, boys are out there building forts and girls are talking about things generally.
So verbal skills and, oh, the collaborative learning, the collaborative stuff that goes on, oh, everyone get together.
Everyone's going to contribute.
This drives boys mental and drives girls into states of delirious estrogen joy, which is incomprehensible largely to the male mind.
There have been, of course, studies, as you know, wherein papers that are handed in or tests that are handed in with girls' names, the same tests, are marked better than if they're handed in with boys' names, which shows that there is a significant sexist bigotry, not against men, which is bad enough, but against boys, against little boys.
These harpies are attacking the minds of our boys, not all, of course, but it's pretty substantial.
So, young men are told that women are looking for men who are superior to them, right?
I want a man who's taller than me.
I'd love a man who makes more money than me.
I'd love a man who's better than me in some way.
But if you then come across as superior, it's referred to as, yes, we all know, let's do the chant together, toxic masculinity.
Although, boy, the number of female pedophiles in schools these days should at least awaken some people to the idea that there might be female toxicity.
But anyway, toxic masculinity.
So what are you supposed to do?
Well, when you see that women online rate men, the vast majority of men as unattractive, right?
You've seen that okay Cupid 9 2018 bell curve with the women all saying that the men are ergos and the men all saying, yeah, it's pretty reasonably spaced.
So online dating seems to suck because women get massive amounts of attention and men don't, unless you happen to be some god-looking profile of a man with, you know, chiseled jaw and perfect hair and abs and so on.
In which case, there have been experiments where these really great-looking guys, they take great-looking guys' pictures and they put them up and say, yeah, I just got out of jail for domestic abuse.
And the women were like, ooh, that's cool.
I don't even bathe.
Well, you must be musky.
I don't brush my teeth.
And, you know, it doesn't matter.
They still, oh, well, you know, everyone makes mistakes.
So maybe then you're supposed to go to talk to girls in person.
God help you.
God help you.
Ever since the Me Too era, 61% of young men in 2019, you gov pull said that they're cautious about approaching women.
I don't want to intrude.
I don't want to bother them.
I don't want to get in their face.
I don't want anyone to put me on blast on social media.
I don't want anyone to take a picture.
God forbid my wandering eye hits on a woman's lycra encased butt in a gym and Joey Swole isn't around on your toast.
Just can't even talk to girls.
They're going to roll their eyes.
They're going to scorn you.
They're going to mock you.
They're going to humiliate you.
They're going to put you on blast on social media.
They're going to take a picture of you and say, oh, this loser.
And then what?
Ooh, that's not fun.
That's not fun.
So what are you supposed to do?
Young men are facing severe mental health crises.
Men are 75% of you are suicides.
I think Trump actually mentioned this as like the first politician in the history of the freaking planet to mention this male suicide issue.
Women attempt it more, men succeed more often.
I'm not going to put any jokes in there.
You get it.
Rates peak among young men at the age of 20 to 34 at 27 per 100,000.
Only 25% of men seek therapy compared to 40% of women.
This is for an American Psychological Association study from 2021.
So this is another reason why, oh, there's so many women with diagnosed mental disorders.
Well, part of that, not all of it, but part of it, is because women go for help more, get diagnosed more, and so on, right?
Again, I'm not saying that's all of it, but it's part of it, right?
Male fragility, male insecurity.
Men aren't allowed to have standards.
If you have a standard as a man, maybe don't go to boozy, drunken, half-stripper nightclubs with the girls when you're in a steady relationship with a man.
Oh, you're so insecure, so controlling.
That's so terrible.
Don't you trust me?
Whereas if you want to go to a strip club, oh, that's so inappropriate.
So all male standards are oppressive, insecure, controlling, psycho.
Whereas women having standards is empowering, elevated, refusing to settle, a giant plus.
This is mad.
Dating market imbalance is mad.
Of course, as everybody knows, women have a near infinite cavalcade of conveyor belt ball sacks roaming into their DMs on a regular basis.
Now, if you talk to women about what's in those DMs, it's fairly icky as a whole, but nonetheless, it is just crazy, right?
Mentioning this 2018 OKCupid poll, women rated 80% of men as below average for attractiveness.
Not, I will say this, not pushing back against any or even one of the stereotypes that women are mathematically largely illiterate.
So 80% below average.
Good job, ladies.
Please stop confirming these stereotypes.
That would be excellent.
But I'm not holding my breath.
63% of young men reported being single in 2020, Pew study.
This is, of course, just around the pandemic starting, compared to 34% of young women.
Hmm.
Let's just do a little math there.
So twice as many men are single compared to women, which means that women are on average dating two men.
Not great.
Social expectations are for men to make the first approach, but as you make the first approach and you constantly get ghosted or ignored or blocked, or you just get, hi, what you doing?
Right?
No particular engagement, no particular conversation, no interest.
You have to do all the work.
You have to initiate.
You have to be interesting.
You have to keep the conversation going.
And it is like holding a weight above your shoulders.
Look at 10 pound, 20 pound weight, or in my case, the weight of the world.
That's like holding a 10 pound weight.
It's not too bad for a while, but after a while, it's like, damn, this is hurting.
My shoulders are locking up.
This hurts like hell.
And of course, as men continue to pour their efforts into trying to woo women in person and online and get rejected, there's a negative feedback loop.
Oh, you got to be confident.
You got to be confident to get women.
But if the vast majority of women are indifferent or hostile, it's a little tough to maintain your confidence.
And then, say, bald boomer-adjacent guys come along and just say, bro, just be confident.
It's a little tough when you keep getting rejected to maintain that confidence level, which I understand.
How is the relationship between young men in the modern West and institutions as a whole?
Do you feel treasured and welcomed in school?
Oh, what about the media?
Oh, what about sitcoms?
What about movies?
What about commercials?
Where women are always brilliant and men are always bumbling idiots, bumping into wars like a drunken Roomba?
How do you feel that you're portrayed in higher academia?
How are you portrayed online?
Predatory.
Toxic.
Women would rather choose the bear than a man.
You're dangerous.
Misogynistic.
In cells.
Nobody ever wants to listen to you or address your concerns.
They want to tell you that everything that's wrong in your life is absolutely your fault.
Coincidentally, not only is everything that is wrong in your life your fault, but as an added bonus, everything that is wrong in women's life is also your fault, you misogynistic bastard.
So things wrong in your life, 100% your fault.
Things wrong in women's life, 100% your fault.
Shut up and take your blows, you pathetic whipping boy.
Ooh, a quick question.
When you have diversity initiatives, which is, of course, anti-male in its essence, how do you feel when you're trying to get a job in academia or in some sort of corporate job or, you know, just about anywhere?
Well, does it feel a tad exclusionary?
Does it feel like there's a bunch of tight-lipped, beehive-haired Karens in HR saying, oh, John Smith from Rhode Island, into the shredder you go?
That's not great.
How do you feel as a young man or as a man as a whole about ye old institution of family courts?
Is that working out for you?
Hey, quick question.
Did it work out for your dads?
Did it work out for my dad?
My dad had to flee the family courts to Africa.
To Africa.
I'm not trying to play hard done by here, but I have seen this pretty direct.
Fathers, mothers are awarded primary custody in 80% of U.S. divorce cases, and accusations of abuse in divorces from females to males is rampant.
It's so common there's its own acronym, S-A-I-D, for sexual abuse allegations in divorce.
And it is brutal if you've ever known anybody to go through this as a whole.
And the tax system, how's that working as a whole?
Women take out, depending on how you measure it, from soup to nuts, from birth to death, women take out about twice what they pay in taxes.
In many situations and circumstances, men get out about half what they pay in taxes.
So the modern tax and redistribution system is repeatedly punching men in the nads and rewarding women for the amazing act of continuing to draw breath.
Women get benefits in university.
Women get benefits in the workplace.
This doesn't even count the artificially inflated women's wages in the workplace.
Women get benefit in free healthcare because men don't use healthcare nearly as much as women.
And of course, women live longer, which means old age pensions go more to women than to men.
Subsidized daycare is used far more.
And the welfare state, which is basically the single mother state, is vastly used by women and paid for by men, which, of course, when men are forced to pay for people's bad decisions, men lose, and women too who pay for those bad decisions lose any capacity whatsoever to police bad decisions.
See, interesting factoid about pretty much the entirety of human history up until the 1960s, if people made bad decisions, they suffered negative consequences.
I know, I know.
Like for the young people here, this is incomprehensible.
I might as well be speaking in a combination of Swahili, some Urdu clicking language, and Klingon.
But in the past, if people made bad decisions, they actually suffered the consequences.
You know, the way that you did when you were, say, eight years old.
Oh, man, I forgot about this test.
I forgot about the spelling test.
Oh, that's too bad.
You fail.
Oh, I forgot about the math test.
Well, You fail.
See, six, seven, eight-year-old kids, particularly boys, if you make a bad decision or you just forget something, you suffer, you fail, you might get punished, you get lines.
Maybe you held back a year and become the hunched kid in the back who's got to shave the back of his fingers in grade six.
Now, but you see, accountability in the modern world, see, that's only for children.
Children should be held accountable and men should be accountable not just for their own bad decisions, but for everybody and their dog's bad decisions.
But women, no, no, no, no.
We can't let the poor little dears themselves be held accountable.
In other words, if they get pregnant, they have to get the man to marry them, or they have to go and live with mom and dad, or they have to go and live in some collective household with other women so you can watch each other's kids while you all go to work.
No, no, no, nothing like that.
You have to use the state to coercively transfer money from men to yourself because you made a bad decision.
Whatever you subsidize, you get more of.
Whatever you tax, you get less of.
So you subsidize bad decisions, you just get more and more bad decisions.
You tax productivity.
And at the structured style at the moment, men will check the frack out.
Because no man wants to be pillaged for the sake of mostly women's bad decisions.
When a man makes a bad decision, suck it up, buttercup.
Do better.
Pull yourself up by your bootstracks.
Stop complaining.
When women make bad decisions, oh, you poor victimized deer, oh, here's $100,000 a year in cash and benefits.
Because, I mean, who knew you could get pregnant?
Having unprotected sex with a tattooed drunkard.
Incomprehensible.
What about male-only spaces outside of Mike Srunovich's Noble Cigar Club?
Male-centric spaces, fraternal organizations, community clubs.
When I was a kid, they were the Boy Scouts.
That's all been sued into oblivion.
So what about the church church?
It used to be pretty masculine.
Now it's an estrogen fest of sympathy for the outsiders and contempt for anyone who actually talks about responsibilities that come from the Bible.
So how does that work?
How does it look for you as a man when any reasonably attractive woman on TikTok can make a fortune doing stupid dances on the hood of a car while you have to get up at 6 a.m. to pound the pavement looking for a job as a welder?
I did a, this is all very conscious and I'll get into sort of what I've been doing over the last couple of days.
But I was asking men, I didn't ask, I asked people as a whole, what's the worst job you ever had?
99% of them were men who had the most appallingly, horrendously horrible jobs, and there weren't any women.
Because, you know, you've seen these absolutely end of civilization day in the life of videos, you know, like women getting up, yawning and stretching and having a protein smoothie and then going to work, opening up a laptop, doing a couple of meetings, having lunch on the balcony, free coffee.
And it's just like, oh my God, you know, I mean, I'm sure most of the men here have had really, really tough jobs, and it's really, really not the case.
OnlyFans and other online pornographic or pornographic adjacent sites are available to women to make money, although the majority of women make very little money on it, but there's a small number who make a huge amount.
I'm looking at you, Sophie Rain, though I've never really looked at you, Sophie Rain.
But how does that feel as a man, that you don't even have that?
Obviously, fairly declasse option to go and make money.
Men, do you see a lot of homeless women?
No.
Why?
Because homeless women can go and have sex with a man and get a roof over their head.
Homeless men really can't do the same thing.
How about men's shelters?
I talked to the great and courageous Erin Pitsy many, many years ago, who opened up the first homeless man's shelter for men fleeing domestic violence, and feminists attacked her.
And I don't just mean online.
So how does that work, right?
How much mentorship is you as a man getting from older men?
How does that mean fathers are significantly absent from the home?
And even if they're home, a lot of times they're workaholics in part to meet the expectations of their wives so they don't get divorced and lose half their stuff and most of their kids or most of their time with their kids.
A 2019 survey found that 45% of young men lack a mantra that they trust.
And how is that void filled?
Well, I think we all know how that works, right?
So young men are overrepresented in low-wage, unstable gig work.
60% of gig workers are male.
This is per a 29 BLS report.
Educational system, see, what happened was, I think it was in the early 1970s, Duke Power case, the U.S. government said you're not allowed to use IQ tests as a way of seeing if people will be competent at complicated tasks, even though IQ tests are far better than any HR department could ever be in figuring out who's going to be good at working at complicated tasks.
There's nothing better than the IQ test, not allowed for reasons that we've talked about or I've talked about many years ago.
So because you can't just use a simple IQ test, you wouldn't have to take one for each employer, just take one at an accredited agency that's stamped, and you could then take it around because you're not allowed to use an IQ test, you have to use a four-year, quarter million dollar, absolute waste of time and destroyer of liver and non-STD riddled genitals called higher education.
So higher education is a giant proxy for the IQ test, but given that the IQ test is very, very cheap and very, very quick, you get to go into massive debt to pay for your own indoctrination.
And even more, if you're a woman, women hold the majority of household debt.
Women hold the majority of student loan debt.
And this again, did you check the math?
Again, not blowing stereotypes Out of the water here as a whole.
So, women are constantly told not to settle, which means that their expectations have been blown into the stratosphere.
And women automatically get the subsidy in dating of sex.
Men don't, for the most part.
What that means is, to use the sort of crude sexual market value sign, what that means is that a woman who's attractive at a level five, like an average woman, nothing wrong with it.
Everyone's the bell curved, nothing wrong with it.
Some men have hair, and then there's me.
So a woman who's a five can have a very short-term relationship with a guy who's an eight or a nine, probably not a ten, and she can sleep with him.
So she can bounce from dinner to dinner as a booty call and a foodie call, and she can date men far more attractive than she is if she offers them sexual access.
Men cannot do that.
A five man cannot go to a nine woman and say, buy me dinner and I'll sleep with you.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
So women have this constant ego boost, right?
Men's weakness is status.
Women's weakness is vanity.
Women have this constant ego boost and they get imaginarily pair bonded with the alphas, right?
You know the phenomenon.
It's called the alpha widow.
The alpha widow is a woman who's been able to sleep with top-tier men in terms of attractiveness, not necessarily moral qualities, but in terms of attractiveness and status.
The average woman has now been able to sleep with top-tier men and therefore she thinks she can have a relationship and marry a top-tier man, which is not the case.
Not the case at all.
Not the case, like the guy with an unpleasant personality who wants, a lot of people want to hang out with him because he's got a yacht.
But if he doesn't have the yacht, he's going to find out who his real friends are, and it's not going to be as high a number as he thinks it is.
So what happens is when a five-man goes to a five-woman, she's staring up the whole ramp of sexual market value.
Again, for those of you who don't know, you're new to the conversation, thank you.
Welcome.
I appreciate your patience as I go through these issues.
I was speaking at men's rights conferences like 15 years ago, bomb and death threats, the whole sheban.
So I've been talking about all of this mismatch in social market value, the sexual subsidy for 15 plus years.
So you got the five woman is staring at the nine guy because she can have sex with him.
Therefore, she thinks she can marry him.
She's the five is staring at the nine guy.
And then some other five guy comes along and she's like, that's F. And it's like, no, no, that fits.
Now, the way that the sexual marketplace developed was it was supposed to be real short, baby.
Like Danny DeVito, like real short.
18, maybe 19.
You got six to 12 months.
You got to pick.
Your looks match, your status match, your sexual market value match.
And you say, well, the 10s want each other, so when the nines want each other, but that's not how it works because everybody wants the maximum they can get with the knowledge that if they aim too high, they get nothing, right?
Everybody wants to get paid a million dollars a minute to do their favorite thing, but we all have to compromise and get what we can because if our expectations are too high, we don't get hired at all and we don't get anything with the difference being that marriage used to be for life.
So in that frantic dating market, 18 plus, that frantic dating market, say, oh, the 10s are good with the 10s.
No, because the woman who's the 10 thinks she can do better and the man who's a 10 just wants to sleep around.
But the man who's a 10 says, well, if I don't pick the nine, if I don't pick the 10, I'm going to end up with a nine because someone else is going to angle up and get the 10 because I'm waiting too long.
And if that nine's taken, I got, I mean, that's really bad.
So I've got to just lock it in.
Whereas the woman who's aiming for the, she's a five, she's aiming for a nine.
She's not going to get them because she can't subsidize it with sex.
Because it's a no-sex before marriage monogamy for life situation.
And the nine or the ten won't sleep at the five because if he gets her pregnant, he's going to be forced to marry her.
Or shotgun, shotgun wedding, right?
So the five goes with the five because she needs security and protection so that she can have kids and do the aforementioned transfer of the culture down the chain, the great chain of being.
So she settles.
The ten male who just wants to sleep brown settles for monogamy with a nine or a ten.
Everybody gets, because if the five goes for the nine, then all the five men get taken.
The nine won't marry her.
So she then has to go with a three or a four.
So that's how it used to work.
But now women face no consequences for failing to marry because the government will backfill in, rush in, and make up for all their bad mistakes, make up for their foolishness.
Men, we don't get that.
I mean, one of the greatest advantages and disadvantages of man, especially a white man, nobody gives you any excuses, which, you know, toughens you up or does the opposite.
So I know that's not comprehensive.
I know that's not comprehensive, but I understand the frustration.
I understand the feeling of being hated within your own culture.
I understand trying to wrestle with the delusions of women who have the sexual subsidy and have married the government and therefore aren't available for regular old, healthy, moral pair bonding.
I get all of that frustration.
I understand that there are solutions that are floated around that aren't going to be achieved within your fertility window.
They're not.
So I want to know how well I did or didn't do.
Again, this is a relatively brief introduction or overview as to what is going on.
And I do want to know how well Or badly, I'm doing in what it is that I'm saying.
So, if you want to tell me everything I got wrong or everything that I missed, I would be happy to hear.
Just if you're going to be in the requests, make sure that it's this is this is normally it's an open mic, you can tell me what you want, but if you're going to be in these requests, I'm begging you, please, please, let it be correcting what I've missed because I know it's not, can't be, I can't be comprehensive in half an hour or whatever.
So I'm going to just wait for a moment for people who are going to come in.
I'm going to kick everyone out of the waiting room.
And if you want to come in and tell me what I've missed, I know we can't be fully comprehensive, but if there's something major that I missed, I mean, I know there's the draft and all that kind of stuff, so I'm aware of that.
And if there's other things that I've missed, please, please, please come in, set me straight, tell me how disconnected I am, how boomerish I am.
That's fine, whatever.
I'm a big boy.
I can handle it.
I'm in the public square saying challenging things, so that's totally fine.
And I really do appreciate even the haters were fun.
So, okay, so I'm just going to wait.
If anybody has anything that they want to add, again, I know it's not comprehensive.
I know it's not 100%.
But, all right, Tyler, what have I missed?
What have I missed, brother?
unmute and let me know.
All right.
I don't think he is unmuting.
I got a question for you.
Okay, no, no.
Did you hear my instructions?
I must have just missed it.
Okay, well, no, this is not the time.
Do you have anything to add to what it is that I said about men's rights?
I guess not.
Okay.
So the one thing I would ask is just listen.
All right.
Fluffy.
That's a confident man's name.
What have I missed?
What set me stray?
What have I not understood?
Yes.
Ever since the coronavirus countermeasures...
Were you talking about COVID or stuff I've missed over COVID?
Oh, yeah.
Well, how it affected the dating landscape for Gen Z. Please do.
Yeah, that's great.
Thank you.
So ever since the confinement, the young generation, Gen Z, has gone online.
And the communication culture between young people, we're talking age 26 and less, has become what you would probably perceive as very difficult, antisocial.
There's social rules that I think you've missed, like ghosting is a really tolerated phenomenon now.
You can ghost someone and then text them again three months later.
So a lot of things are changing.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I talked about ghosting as being one of the things that kills men's spirit in the online pursuit of women.
Well, it's acceptable now.
I know it's acceptable.
That's why it happens.
But so around the COVID stuff, you couldn't meet people in person for a lot of places, and so people went more online.
But hasn't that relaxed since the COVID measures have largely dropped over the last couple of years?
The culture among young people has never reverted.
See, I'm 34.
It doesn't really apply to me so much, but I see it with a lot of my peers.
it's considered antisocial to ask a girl out unless you have some sort of familiarity.
If you go up What does that mean?
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I just want to make sure I understand your terms.
I would compare it to the same way certain orthodox religions wouldn't allow a man to just walk up to a woman and ask her out or start a conversation.
This sort of mentality is ingrained in young people now.
No, but that doesn't tell me.
Give me an analogy from religion.
And I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be dense here.
And I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
I just really want to understand what is it because it's intrusive to women?
Is it negative?
Do they not like it?
Is it post-me too?
Like, why is it that talking to women in person or just saying, hi?
Hey, how's it going?
And if the woman is not pleasant or difficult or unpleasant, like mean or that's, I mean, then you just say, oh, have a great day and move on, right?
I think it's because young people are spending so much time on the internet that they're not very socialized and they don't have social skills.
And so if you go up to a girl, you are putting her in a position where she doesn't know what to do.
So you say, hi, may I, would you like to go out on a date with me?
She doesn't know how to respond to that.
And you already know that.
Before you even ask her out, you already know she can't respond to that.
She does not know what to say.
And so it's rude to go up her and approach.
Okay, sorry, sorry.
So you go up and you say, hi, how you doing?
And you try and chat with the woman a little bit.
And then what?
Well, that in itself is rude because you already know she can't respond.
She's confused.
She doesn't have the social skills.
It's completely lost on young people right now.
Okay, so if she doesn't have any social skills, why would you want to date her?
I mean, that would be kind of isolating, right?
It's the culture now.
I mean, this is just the way people are.
Okay, but you're not answering my question.
If the woman doesn't, like, marriage is socializing, right?
You've got to socialize with people's families.
You've got to socialize with their friends.
You've got to socialize at work, and your wife's going to be there a lot of times.
So if she doesn't have any social skills, why would you want to date her?
I mean, a woman who can't even hold a basic conversation.
You have to fit the orthodoxy.
So you don't go up and approach her in person.
That's uncomfortable.
You've got to do it on a dating app or a video game or a shared hobby.
There's an appropriate way to do it in this new internet-centric culture.
Okay, you still haven't answered my question, though.
Yeah, so she does have social skills.
So, yeah, I wouldn't want to marry a girl who had bad social skills.
Of course not.
You just told me she doesn't have the social skills to respond to a basic conversation, and now you're telling me she does have social skills?
It's a different orthodoxy.
It's a totally different orthodoxy than what you and I grew up with.
you have to do it online.
The appropriate way to me to go now...
Again, I'm not disagreeing with you, but you can't say, well, she lacks the social skills.
And I say, well, why would you want to date a woman without social skills?
And you say, well, it's not the orthodoxy.
She has social skills in other blah, blah, blah.
But, you know, you don't socialize with friends and family and at work by playing Call of Duty.
All right.
So if she doesn't have basic social skills and basic social graces, like if she's got a boyfriend or whatever, she can just say, oh, your day's going pretty well.
And if you keep asking, she can say, you know, I don't mean to be rude.
I do have a boyfriend, but I appreciate the interest.
Just, you know, somebody basically reasonably polite.
Yeah.
And as someone who I'm not shy talking to strangers, so I agree with the sentiment, but she lacks social skills in person, but you know she has good social skills online.
So if there's a girl you like, the most appropriate place to ask her is digitally.
Okay.
I mean, but the purpose of dating is to find a good mother for your children.
So if she lacks social skills, then she's not going to be able to build up a community of like-minded people to help her raise the kids, and your kids are going to grow up kind of isolated and weird, right?
I think that's partially true.
I'm not sure that's completely true, because you want a woman that's going to raise kids to be well-adjusted to the internet.
I mean, we're talking about babies and toddlers.
They need other babies and toddlers around.
Do you think that it takes more than just a mother to raise a children?
She's going to have to have some social skills so she can socialize and organize things with other parents or at least get along with your parents or, you know, whatever, right?
So because she can't just be raised in isolation.
So if she doesn't have any social skills, like, I mean, let me sort of be clear about this.
And I'm sorry, Tyler, I'll get you in a sec.
And I appreciate this.
I just think we're going a little bit in circles here because you're just saying it's online social skills and I don't...
What I should have said is different social skills.
Yeah, okay.
Sorry, I got to take you out here.
So, and the reason being that we're just kind of going in circles, you're saying she's got good online social skills.
I don't really know what that means other than you have to not be around her to interact with her.
She's going to need good in-person social skills to raise your kids, both in terms of direct communication with the kids and building up some kind of community.
And to get along with your parents, to get along with your brother, your sister, your aunt, your uncle, to plan social events and host people.
And you just, if you're going to have a stay-at-home mom, she's got to have some social skills.
So if there's a woman out there who completely is socially anxious when somebody talks to her at a coffee shop, which is not a high-threat environment, you're not like, you don't chase her down an alley at 2 o'clock in the morning.
You're just saying hi in a coffee shop.
If that's freaking her out, then she's not going to be a good mom for your kids.
So because the reality is, I've always said this, and again, if you're new, there's no reason why you would know this, but I'm sure you've heard it from me before.
My audience, I put you all in the top 1%.
I put you all in the top 1% of intelligence.
I mean, social skills, whatever, right?
But the top 1%.
So what that means is that you're looking for a top 1% woman, right?
Now, if you're looking for a top 1% woman, then what you're going to do is you're going to be eliminating a lot of people.
And the way that I make this analogy is when I was a director, I've been a producer of a movie and I've directed my own plays on occasion.
And when I'm looking for an actor, I say no to 99% of the people who want the role because you're looking for the right person with the right look and the right talent and the right, you know, whatever, right?
Sometimes even the right voice, able to do a good accent if it's that kind of role.
So 99, you're looking for 1% of actors.
Like when I auditioned for the National Theater School way back in the day, they take 1% of people.
So for my audience, the fact that they say, well, you know, half of women are crazy.
It's like, yeah.
So it's like saying, well, you can't hire anyone for your movie because half of actors aren't good.
And it's like, well, I know that half of actors aren't good, but I'm looking for that one actor in 100 or that one actor in 1,000.
So we're not the average.
I'm not talking to the average here.
So when you say, well, she's not good in her social skills, it's like, well, then probably not a good mother for your children.
So, all right, Tyler, if there's something else I got wrong, I, of course, would love to hear all about it.
What's up?
What's up?
Thank you.
Go and once, Tyler.
You made a comment about how there's a lot of positions and jobs being occupied by females that isn't very productive.
And the thing that I'm curious about and the mathematics is as we get more productive and the amount of people that need to be in the economy or hours worked or however that's going to work, I'm afraid that men are more dangerous not working than women are.
Okay, hang on, Tyler.
What was my request, my specific request for you calling in?
That if I could bring something to the table that you didn't bring up.
Well, but something about how men have it tough.
Not what are the consequences of men having it tough.
Is there something that I missed?
Because everyone's telling me, okay, Boomer, you're out of touch.
You don't get it.
You don't get it.
Okay.
Is there something important that I missed?
I think what the previous speaker touched on, which is COVID, is important.
Is there anything you want to add in that?
Or anything that, not what happens when men are alienated from society?
I know that's bad.
And that's one of the reasons I want to have these conversations.
But is there anything that I missed?
Because I don't want people at the end of this conversation to say, oh, but Steph, you still don't get it.
So, you know, we've got a lot of people watching and listening.
So this is your opportunity to tell me what I missed, not consequences, but what did I miss and how hard young men have it.
So my line of reasoning, if you bring it to its conclusion, I think what you're missing is that men aren't going to be able to get it back on the tracks because we're going to be attacked for trying to redirect it, right?
To trying to fix these things.
Okay.
I mean, I understand that, right?
But is there anything that I missed in terms of how hard men have it, not what are the consequences of trying to fix it?
But that's precisely the problem, right?
Like to right the wrongs, like the things that need to be done society and culturally, men have the ability to know how to fix the things, right?
Like it's typical in a relationship when a female will tell you things and you'll give them solutions, but they don't really want a solution.
They just want to be heard, right?
Men want to fix things.
And when we go to fix these things, we're going to come up against a massive propaganda campaign and pressure Socially, politically, and it's going to be very difficult.
Can you give me an example?
And obviously, let's not talk about violence in the show because it's a philosophy show, right?
So, can you give me an example of a peaceful solution that men would have that this propaganda campaign would be launched against?
And I'm not disagreeing with you.
I just want to make sure I understand the general category of what you're talking about.
Well, the work.
I think that women are better to be phased out of full-time work somehow.
No, no, the somehow, the somehow is easy.
So are you saying something like, let's have completely gender-neutral employment laws?
I wish.
No, no, but is that the kind of thing that you're talking about?
You have to define that for me.
Gender-neutral.
So is there some law that is specifically beneficial towards women rather than towards men?
Well, then that law would be invalid, right?
So there wouldn't be equal pay for work of equal value.
There wouldn't be requirements for a certain amount of men versus women in particular fields or occupations or management layers or anything like that, that the government would not interfere in the free negotiation of the exchange of value between sovereign adults.
Yes, I would desire that, but the growth and metastasizing of the government is making it kind of difficult for us to have that future where only productive, free trade type of relationships make up the economy.
Now the economy is so much fake, right?
Service sector and not real.
Well, and this is not even to point out the amount of the economy that is around women's tchotchkes and white elephants and, you know, just go to the mall and, you know, 85 or 84% of domestic spending is controlled by women.
And a lot of it is kind of nonsense.
All right.
Well, I appreciate that.
And thank you, Tyler, for the update.
And I will add that to the list.
And thank you for that.
And facts.
FAX, you are on.
What else have I missed?
What else can I add to this list?
And again, we're probably not going to get comprehensive, but anything major.
Don't forget to unmute.
I'm going to narrow down the scope a little bit.
I represent what would probably be a failure mode.
You're trying to prevent young guys from ending up.
But there's many guys like me.
We did everything.
We tried everything.
We did all the recommendations and we still failed.
Have you considered or read anything about the high-functioning autism and how that basically destroys a guy's chances in the mating market?
Well, I'm talking about issues that are structural that are facing young men.
As far as autism goes, that's not really a philosophical issue.
So I really will not be able to address that.
But of course, I understand that that's quite a challenge.
All right.
So let us go to Count D MC.
What do you got as far as setting me straight about what I'm missing?
You will need to unmute.
Oh, sorry about that.
So one thing that you kind of touched adjacently on was with the mental health.
But in terms of physical health, there's actually a pretty big disparity between men and women.
In some cases, men carry up to 45% higher disease burden or negative health impacts from common diseases.
And then that tends to kind of continue to play out within society because, you know, for example, someone like myself, I've had type 1 diabetes since I was six years old.
I'm now 30, starting to lose vision and kidney function.
And I'm expected to continue to be a productive member of society and be in the workforce for another 30 years.
But the options for me in terms of getting assistance, in terms of all of that, or my health issues, and I know other guys in similar boats where we're being impacted harder because of health issues, that's kind of pulling us out of the workforce.
And how am I supposed to want to enter into a relationship with a woman when I'm not even sure I'm going to be able to provide for myself in 10, 15, 20 years?
Well, I mean, listen, brother, you have my absolute deepest sympathies for that.
Vision loss, of course, is alarming for anyone.
And I'm really, really sorry that that's occurring for you.
And I obviously wish you the very best with whatever countermeasures you can take against that.
I'm really sympathize with that.
And I'm very, very sorry.
Do you feel that if you were a woman, and again, not disagreeing, I just want to make sure I understand this.
Do you feel that if you're a woman, you would get access to better resources?
Because, of course, you know, this kind of diabetes can hit women as well, right?
But do you feel that it's uniquely male in terms of how it's hitting you?
Well, sort of.
I mean, I have a really great comparison in that my older sister was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes a couple of years before I was.
And she married somebody who is very, very, very wealthy.
And she's never going to have to worry about paying for health care, about paying for her future.
She's basically set for life because of who she married.
And I don't falter for that.
I'm very, very happy for her.
It's a huge relief to me that she doesn't have to worry about that.
But I don't have that option.
Like that, that's just not even, that's really not something that I can even begin to pursue.
No, that's, and I completely understand that.
And I appreciate that being brought up.
It's not specifically modern, but it's certainly important in that an attractive woman can go online.
And of course, it's not just sex work or OnlyFans or TikTok dances, but she can go and she can beg a husband who can pay for her bills.
And that's really not the case for most men.
It's very few men who are able to do that.
And of course, the other thing, too, is that for a man to be attractive enough for a woman to pay for him, he has to do a huge amount of work in the gym.
You know, it's two hours a day in the gym, and he's got to get the right balances of proteins and diet, and he's got to, you know, get the right amount of sleep.
And whereas a woman, in order to be attractive, for the most part, I mean, there certainly are exercise elements, but just don't eat too much.
Like literally, just don't eat too much.
And you're pretty much good to go as a whole.
So for a woman to bag a high-value man requires her just being attractive, which mostly has to do with not eating too much.
But for a man to bag a high-value woman and has his belt pay for is a whole lot more work in general as a whole.
So I appreciate that.
And again, I really sympathize with what's going on for you health-wise.
That is a very tough situation.
And I wish you the very best.
And I hope, of course, that all of this stuff gets dealt with health-wise down the road.
All right, Austin, if you want to unmute, where have I missed the boat?
Don't forget to unmute.
Hey, can you give me a step on?
Yes.
Here's the thing that's going on with my, I'm a millennial and I notice this with people my age is you have to re-educate women whenever you're dating them.
There's a re-education that's going on because the colleges have really, you know, calcified their mind into the ideology that we don't need these specific, you know, men or whatever.
But like I dated a couple of girls and they were like, well, men are raping women on the corners everywhere.
And these, I'm like, what?
No, let me show you the data.
Here's the data.
Here's how this is.
Here's how this is.
It's a father's land.
It's a very, that's what's going on.
And a lot of men our age don't understand that we have a responsibility to do that right now.
Oh, you mean to educate?
No, that's like.
Yes, you have to re-educate your woman.
If you're going, like, there's a thing that's going on that we're like, oh, we can't even get to, it's because they give up.
Here's how it works.
You have to go, you have to, you have to be assertive in what you are as a man.
It's actually a great time to date a woman because this is a way of showing your manhood in a lot of ways.
For instance, my mom and dad are boomers.
And my mom's very like, she's not the, she's more assertive in a lot of ways.
Like she understands her like positions and she's, she, she can get away with what she says sometimes.
But like for people our age, we get lost in the fact that we have to act like we did, like our parents act.
We have to be like our parents.
But then the reality is, as men our age, we have to educate the women.
If you want to date a woman.
Okay.
Sorry.
I think we are going around a bit in circles and I appreciate that distinction.
I will also add that women have stuff to teach us as well as men, right?
So I think the cross-pollination of wisdom between men and women is really, really important.
That's not a specific danger.
So that's not exactly what it is that I'm looking for in this part of the conversation.
But I really do appreciate that point of view.
Yeah.
Don't be afraid, of course, if the woman has got things wrong, then you should tell her and you should give her the reasons why.
And of course, if you've got something wrong, then the woman should tell you that.
Sir Cheddar Man, that's a familiar name.
Just don't forget to unmute.
What have I missed?
What have I got wrong?
Hey, Stars.
I think the mixed race component, I don't think you really touched on it, but in particular, like white passing.
I don't know what that phrase refers to, sorry.
Oh, so like, at least from what I understand, it's like if you're mixed race, let's say in particular, if you're like Mexican and also you're, and then you're, let's say in this example, your mother is like white.
And so you appear more white than Mexican.
And so because you have that appearance, you essentially, like a lot of the anti-white stuff falls onto you.
Okay, I appreciate that.
Sorry, go ahead.
Oh, yeah.
And the thing in particular is like, if you like, if you really intellectually care about honesty and you're in that position of being mixed race, and let's say that parent that is white doesn't really pass any cultural values, then it's like you're not honest.
You don't like, I think it just kind of adds to that anxiety of like, of, or at least adds to paralysis, in my opinion.
Okay.
Now, I appreciate that.
I mean, that's obviously fairly specific, and I sympathize with that.
I mean, I've obviously talked, you know, mixed race kids, they do have some identity issues.
They can have, you know, slightly more mental health issues.
It's not guaranteed and so on, but they do face sort of unique challenges.
But of course, that's not much to do with men as a whole.
And I really just want to make sure that I get to issues that I've missed about men as a whole.
All right.
Blue nose.
I think you're up.
You just need to unmute.
And what have I missed?
Hello, hello.
All right.
Don't be the guy who's breaking the chain here, man.
You just need to unmute.
Oh, dear.
Oh, dear.
All right.
So I'm going to have to remove him.
And let's go with...
Keaton, what's on your mind?
You could just let it unmute and tell me what I got wrong.
I was actually wondering what your thoughts on semen retention are.
It's not something you got.
Okay, what have I asked for in this?
You said something.
You said, what did you miss?
Yeah, what did I miss about the barriers?
Hang on, hang on.
What did I miss about the barriers that young men are facing in the world today?
I'm pretty sure the semen retention is not one of them.
So do you have something for the topic?
Well, the barriers are their own mind, and they're being told to go.
Okay, well, that's not going to be something that we're going to do.
Okay.
I don't even know what this is, some sort of Elon Musk named forehead on the keyboard kind of thing, but you're up.
Good morning, good morning.
I won't speak English.
I'll go first.
Goodbye, goodbye.
Thank you.
Well, that's interesting.
I don't know what he was saying, but good for him.
I'm sure he agreed with me completely.
All right.
Not today, crawler.
What have you got, my friend?
How can you help me help the world better by telling me what I have missed?
Not today, crawler.
Not today, Zerg.
What you got?
Don't forget to unmute.
Yes, hello?
Yes, go ahead.
Hey, thank you so much for talking to me.
So I do want to add, I think that, well, hell, you might have mentioned this briefly in a way, but I think that we also have a problem of other men kind of crabs in a bucketing for men.
Men don't have the same amount of counseling, you know?
Like you might have older male mentors or whatever else, but then you go on like YouTube, social media, you name it.
You have red pill channels like, oh, women trash, women bad, women bad because of this.
But they don't say, okay, women bad.
Here's what you do or, you know, whatever else.
It's just, you know, go your own way.
Like, oh, you're stupid for getting married.
So a lot of men are just like, well, they kind of start to buy into that after a while, right?
So a lot of men aren't going out in public or finding a male mentor, male role model, you know, father figures, uncle, you name it, you know?
So that's what I would say.
Other men can pull men down at times, right?
What do you think about that?
I think that's an excellent point.
And I don't disagree with you at all.
I think, and listen, I want to be sensitive because I'm really digging into what's going wrong for young men in culture and society at the moment.
So the last thing I want to do is say, well, just shake it off because that's not a reasonable thing.
And I really would never say that to anyone anyway.
But what I would say is that everyone's had at some time or another in their life, that depressed friend, you know?
Let's call him Bob, right?
And Bob is just down, man, and he just can't see a way forward.
And maybe he smokes some drugs and maybe he's a little too much on the video and the prawn or whatever.
Right.
And Bob is just, you know, he calls you up and it's like, hey, man, you know, I'm just I'm just hanging out.
I'm really kind of down.
I didn't really sleep well last night.
You know, I think I'm gaining weight.
And listen, we all have our peaks and troughs.
We all have a roller coaster.
But there's always this concern that Bob ain't going to be lifted up.
But what he's going to do is drag you down.
And that's a delicate balance, right?
Do you try and help him?
Sure.
He's your friend.
You know, he helped you when you were down.
But if he's just pulling you down further, what do you do?
That's a tough thing.
And I think everyone's had that kind of friend at one time or another in their life.
I mean, if you haven't, you probably haven't had enough friends.
And it's tough, right?
Because then if you say, listen, man, you got to do something.
Because, you know, we've been talking about this for like three months and nothing has changed.
You're still doing the drugs.
You're still doing the video.
You're still doing the prawn.
You're not getting out of the house.
You're not exercising.
You're not getting sunlight.
You're not socializing.
Like, I'm concerned that I'm not able to pull you up.
You're just going to pull me down.
And the same thing I think is true with guys who don't date.
And, you know, they say single women keep women single, right?
And there's a little bit of true of that with men as well, that let's say that you kind of break out of this fear of women in a coffee shop and you go and talk to a woman in a coffee shop.
You get a couple of dates.
Your friend might be upset about that.
He might actually sort of pull you back about that or, oh, you're just such a, you're such a simp, right?
Like anytime I show any sort of sensitivity to or sympathy towards women, I just get endless messages, mangina, and you simp and you cock and you white knight and you boomer and you're like, and it's like, you know, that's a dead end.
Like that level of rage on me, right, is a dead end.
And that level of rage on women is a dead end.
And maybe I'll have a, I mean, I hope to have a conversation with Andrew Wilson.
We were going back a little bit and forth and not in any negative way.
I mean, I respect the guy and he's a, I'm a kind of a fan, but we're going to have a conversation about, he says women are to blame.
And if like, okay, but if women are to blame, then there's something about female nature that is different from male nature, which means women aren't to blame.
It's like if you've got a bunch of pygmies who are shorter than Danish people and you say, well, pygmies are shorter, you don't blame them because there's something in the genetics because height is 100% genetic.
There's something in the genetics that means it's not their fault.
So you really can't get there.
But I really do appreciate you bringing up that topic.
And no, I'm not going to go to that person.
May I just one more thing?
This was the last thing I was going to say.
A sign that there is a first principles problem that is largely being ignored by everybody that just clicked for me like last week, circumcision.
The fact that circumcision is so popular and is what that is, I think that needs to click in more people's mind.
That is a fantastic thing to talk about.
I've got an entire presentation.
People can find it at FDRpodcast.com.
And it's fantastic to bring that up.
It's sort of embarrassing for me to forget it, but I'm really glad you brought it up.
That, of course, circumcision has been around for a long time.
FDRpodcast.com, you can do a search.
I've got the whole truth about circumcision.
It's absolutely brutal.
It raises cortisol levels six months after birth.
It is often performed without anesthetic.
And it is just about the most vicious thing that you can do to hack off a third of a man's penis skin, a boy's, a baby's, An infant's penis skin, the moment they get out of the womb, is absolutely barbaric and brutal and should be relegated to the trash heap of history in the same way that we do in any civilized nation for female genital mutilation.
So I appreciate you bringing that up.
All right.
Let us move on to oh my god, I don't know who's going up.
We got a lot of people who want to chat.
That's fine.
All right.
I appreciate that.
And we will talk to Disorder Club.
Disorder club, if you want to unmute, I'm all ears.
Hello?
Yes, go ahead.
So I have a kind of cynical take.
I want to know what you think about this.
Hang on.
Is this related to the question that I've asked?
Could it be that we're kind of revealing a No?
Do you hang on?
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Do you know what it is that I've asked for?
You're asking me to add to the argument you're tonight.
Yes, and if you could move a little closer to the mic, I can barely hear you.
What is it that I've missed in terms of the difficulties facing young men?
That women don't really want men.
They weren't evolved to want men.
So women weren't evolved to want men.
Is that your belief?
I believe that misandrist and antinatalist sentiment in women were evolved because women never had a choice to breed and now we're going through an adjustment period where women who want to breed are breeding, but most women don't want to breed.
Okay, so are you saying that historically men wanted to breed and women didn't want to breed?
Yes, because men are the ideal, right?
Like a man could figure out what to do with his time.
Everyone mimics what men are doing.
Men are the ideal.
Women don't know what to do with their time.
Women resort to looking for safety from men.
Okay, hang on, hang on.
So you're galloping along, and I'm still trying to process the first point.
So if women don't want to breed, why do they get so many orgasms?
Most women don't orgasm from penetration.
Did I say from penetration?
Women can have multiple orgasms, which men really can't.
So if nature had evolved women to not breed, why would women have strong sexual desire and multi-orgasmic sex reasonably often?
Well, women are evolved to breed.
Some of them do want to breed, but it seems like if you give them the choice, most of them don't want to.
Because we haven't been selecting women who want to breed.
We've just been forcing them all to breed.
Okay, how are we forced to hang on?
Hang on, hang on.
You're going through a lot.
It's funny how people just say this stuff like it's just incontrovertible.
Two and two make four.
Women have been forced to breed.
How have women been forced to breed?
Societal pressure, religion.
No!
Come on.
Be precise.
Men force.
Don't talk about societal pressure being the same as forcing someone.
There's societal pressure that I wear pants and not my underpants to them all.
I mean, maybe that's legal or whatever, right?
But don't talk about force being the same as societal pressure.
You can say no to societal pressure and not get shot.
Are more agreeable, right?
So they.
But it's not force.
It's not.
Hang on.
Influence is not.
Come on.
Is influence force?
No, okay.
I don't mean forced.
I mean, like.
You said forced.
Sorry.
Well, because there was force at one point, right?
Like they were being.
Okay, so tell me, where was the force?
Rape.
Okay, was there rape throughout human history?
Absolutely.
Talking in the West, rape has been illegal for millennia in just about every society.
Yeah, but okay.
I won't have you besmirch my forefathers by calling them all rapists.
I'm talking without really good evidence.
I'm talking early evolution.
And then.
Okay, hang on, hang on.
Early evolution is not some big cloak you can hide behind.
What do you mean?
Are you talking cavemen?
Are we saying that women don't come together and collectively make, like, decide things for women?
What the hell are you talking about?
You said women were forced to have babies.
Early evolution, yeah.
Okay, tell me what you're talking about.
What's the evidence?
Well, you could, there were no abortions back, like before civilization, right?
So all women who don't have an abortion have been forced.
No, I'm just wondering if women really just are just biologically predisposed to need men rather than.
Oh my God, can you are you doing 19 things at once?
Can you stay on the argument?
Are you saying that our forefathers were all rapists?
No, I'm saying at one point before we were civilized, we weren't careful.
Okay, what point is that?
And what proof do you have that prehistoric civilizations were all the men were all rapists?
There was a threat of rape, right?
Always?
I don't know.
You're making the case.
Make your case.
I don't know.
Make the case.
I mean, it would seem to me kind of tough to figure out what it would seem to me, hang on.
It would seem to me kind of tough to figure out what happened in prehistory, given that it is, after all, prehistory and there's not any particular evidence.
My case is that men were never selecting for women who really wanted to be mothers and wives.
just breeding with women and women had way less of a choice in the matter.
Whether it's from I'm asking for some evidence, some proof.
You got to make proof for these assertions, right?
I did.
I said societal pressure from other women and religion specifically.
Okay, so no, no, no, no, I'm not doing it.
I'm not having you on here to disrespect all of our ancestors by calling them all rapists because there's social pressure.
Jesus, Lord, above.
Sorry to be rude, but no, that's not a thing.
I'm not going.
If I can't figure out what the hell you mean after talking with you for five or ten minutes and you won't ask simple questions, I am not going to continue the conversation.
But I appreciate you.
No, no, no.
I'm done.
So I appreciate the conversation.
But if I can't figure out what you're talking about and you haven't made any proof other than assertions, and I keep telling you that social pressure is not forced and you keep going back to that, not going to happen.
All right.
Why are we saying that?
Can you please respect?
All right.
I guess I'll just have to.
I've asked you to stop talking, but I'll just have to remove you from the speakers because I don't know why it is that I make a simple request that people stop talking and they just can't do it.
All right.
But it's okay.
He's forcing himself on me.
All right.
Gorgay.
Gorgay.
You just have to unmute.
What's on your mind, man?
Tell me.
Tell me what I got missed.
What did I miss about?
Go ahead.
Hello.
Can you hear me better now?
Yeah.
Yes.
So your question is, what have I missed about helping young men?
And my response is, no.
No.
My question is, what have I missed about the barriers that young men are facing?
Information.
Information.
They have been bombarded by the manosphere and the red pill that there is something wrong with a woman.
And there is nothing they need to do if only they can guilt the woman to change.
That is wrong.
We need...
Okay.
So the barrier is, is men saying to young men that there's something wrong with women and that the men need to change women.
Is that right?
The barrier is the messaging is wrong.
The narrative that the woman is evil, the woman is conniving, the woman is mischievous, the woman is crooked, the woman is going to play tricks on you.
That is misinformation.
Because...
I mean, there are some bad women out there and there are some bad men out there and there are a lot of good women out there, a lot of good men out there.
So are you saying that this universalization of the negative aspects of some women to all women or female nature, that's the misinformation?
Yes, because all it's doing is creating Jeddah Wars.
It's not equipping the man with the necessary information on how to engage the woman.
And so therefore, you have now a swath of a population of very young people who view women as something that is in need of being fixed, something that is broken.
And when they approach, when the mindset is that, then the rules of engagement are so skewed against the same exact man who comes up with a bravado, he has been fed by the manosphere, the red view, that the other person is the one that needs to change.
And now the woman is smiling and asking, what do you think you can change about me?
Nothing.
All you need is information so that you can craft for yourself.
The rules of engagement with this woman.
The woman stays the same.
And to your point, you say there are some evil women.
Yes.
They are called feminists.
And they go out of their way to paint themselves other than a woman.
They reject the man outright.
That one you are not changing.
Now, the problem is with the red view messaging is that even that woman is included in the bucket list of the things you need to change.
Don't focus on that woman.
That is never going to be a man's woman.
Focus on the woman who is malleable.
Focus on the woman who is still in touch with the roles of her nature and the universe.
That one.
Now, come with the right information and engage that woman.
She will settle into her essence and she will make a family out of you.
She will settle into her womanhood.
She will nurture the children.
She will reciprocate the love with honor and respect and follow and submission to the right man.
That is the listening.
That is beautiful.
And I really appreciate you mentioning that.
I also will tell you that is one of the greatest accents in the history of my show.
And I just, I appreciate that.
I feel my hips loosening already.
And thank you very much.
I would just disagree with you on one thing.
I would not call feminists evil because it's a freedom of speech issue.
I would call them incorrect and so on.
But I would not call them evil.
All right.
Big tech.
Come on.
Help me.
What have I got wrong?
What am I missing?
How can you un-boomer my brain?
Don't forget to unmute.
Did you call me, Stefan?
I did.
Well, I didn't call you, Stefan, but go ahead.
Thanks.
Hey, I admit I came in maybe halfway through this conversation.
So if you cover this already, forgive.
But I want to see if you've already touched on the fact of birth control becoming an issue in the relationships.
Now, is it the argument, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, but something like birth control alters a woman's perception of who she finds attractive.
She gets with a guy who maybe is a little bit more, a little bit less masculine because she's on birth control.
They go off birth control in order to have kids, and she wakes up and she's like, ew, soy boy.
Is it something like that or other things as well?
Well, that's an issue too, but that's not the one that I'm meaning to point to.
Okay, sorry.
Go ahead.
It does change the hormone.
Yeah, it does change the hormonal balance of the woman and it changes things about her psychology maybe on that level.
But really on a utilitarian level, it turns a woman in from the natural position of needing a man needing a pair-bonded relationship with a man who's going to provide for her and protect for her her and the children that are the natural consequence of their bonding now she doesn't need him Because she can sleep with him and then break up with him or move on from him and bounce to a thousand of them without ever encountering the natural consequence of pregnancy.
So she doesn't have to pair bond with a man for life.
Doesn't have to still care for her and the children.
So it has to be a little bit more.
Sorry, Lisa.
repeat that again?
Uh, I guess you're going to do it.
Since she doesn't have the natural consequence of pregnancy when she mates with a man, she can now select to bounce to a thousand different partners with no consequence of pregnancy.
So therefore, she doesn't have to select a man who's going to bond with her for life.
Okay, so let me, and I appreciate that.
Sorry, let me just interrupt.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
So I appreciate that.
That's a great point.
Let's just play it out, though.
So let's say that there's no government redistribution of wealth, right?
Let's say the woman can't get subsidies from the government.
She can't get welfare, old age pensions, healthcare.
It is impossible.
It's a stateless society or at least a non-coercively redistributive society as far as that goes, which is, of course, most of human history.
So how does this play out, the woman being on birth control, let's say sleeping around?
How does this play out in a society where she can't run to the government for money?
Yeah, I think that those related issues.
I mean, how does it play probably, uh, and in, right.
Uh, in, yeah, Yeah, I'm sorry, man.
I'm so sorry.
I'm going to have to dump you.
My apologies, but you were just garbling out.
You've got bad connection.
So my apologies.
I'll just talk about this really briefly.
So in the situation where the woman, and men do this too, military industrial complex.
So I'm not, you know, and government loans and subsidies, which a lot of times go to men.
So I'm not saying that only women take money from the government.
Of course not, right?
But in this particular instance, if a woman, you know, goes on birth control, sleeps around, then she can work and then she can chew through her very limited fertility window, right?
A man can have kids in his 80s.
A woman is pretty much done at 40, at least as far as safe pregnancies go.
So she then sleeps around a lot and then she loses her sex appeal because she ages out and she's still got another, you know, close to half century to go, right?
40 to 90, right?
So 85, 45 years or whatever, right?
So then what, right?
So then she has not been able to lock down and pair bond with the man.
She has no kids.
A man is not really going to want to marry her because any successful man that is around is going to want to marry a younger woman if he's single and have kids.
So if she is on the birth control but can't go to the government for money, it's very tough for her to get the money that she needs to retire to get the companionship.
And she's going to have a very tough time for the last half of her life, which is going to be kind of different for men.
So I appreciate that.
All right.
Telena, if you want to, again, if you're queued up, I know we've got a lot of people who want to talk and I appreciate that.
I have another thing that I want to talk about.
Let's really exhaust the audience tonight.
Come on.
I'm almost 60.
You can stamina with me.
Telena, what have I got wrong?
What have I missed out on what young men are facing?
Hey, honored to speak with you.
Thanks, Stefan.
I guess the point I want to make is just how out of the box hostile so many of these women are to just the idea of a male.
You know, I was trying to think of which example to provide you.
Oh, no, I don't need examples.
I fully accept there are a lot of hostile women out there.
To be fair, there are a lot of hostile men.
Now, of course, the men will say, well, I'm only hostile because the women are hostile.
And the women, of course, say, well, I'm only hostile because the men are hostile and so on.
So you don't have to sell me on the fact that there are a lot of hostile women out there.
To which I say, so freaking what?
You're looking for that 1%.
This is a top 1% audience.
So you're looking for that top 1% people.
If a woman is hostile, she's just saved you a lot of time.
If she's hostile up front, you go talk to some woman at a coffee shop and she's like, screw off, Patriarch.
It's like, whoa, okay, well, thank you.
You've just saved me a whole lot of time and effort.
And I appreciate the clarity that you have brought to this interaction.
I mean, I know it's not pleasant and all of that, but I mean, if you're going to hire someone and they steal in the job interview, they steal something from you, you don't hire them.
You get your pen back or whatever, right?
And you don't hire them and they don't end up stealing a million dollars from you.
So it's, no, I'm not saying it's pleasant, but isn't it good?
Whereas when I was younger, the hostility was often, you know, this is sort of one of the points I'm making on X is that when I was younger, because women conformed more to the prior women's and men's expectations, it was harder, it was much harder to find the crazy people because they could camouflage a lot better.
Now, the crazy people are out there in the open, right?
They got their face tattoos.
They got tattoos all over their body.
They got weird hair.
They've got bizarre opinions.
They've got weird clothing and obesity, odd body types.
So the unstable or the not appropriate for the sort of top 1%, they're signaling.
And people are like, well, what do you mean?
There's a lot of women out there who are kind of negative, crazy, and hostile.
I'm like, okay, I fully accept that.
And they're doing you a favor.
How is this a bad thing?
You're right about that, but the issue is the you talk about 1%.
I feel like when I speak with women of previous generations, they don't, and you might be right.
Maybe it's, maybe they're just hiding it better, but they don't seem to have this overt automatic hostility to the idea of a man.
In fact, you know, when I listen to older women, there seems to be a level of appreciation that is just absent from the younger women.
And it's just, it's prof, you know, and I have to mention a time when I was working in a workplace where, you know, I think it's a wonderful thing.
You know, my grandparents worked together and they got married and it was a wonderful thing.
And whereas at this workplace, they were so tilted against, you know, this whole clique of women were so tilted against men that essentially they regarded my effort, my, you know, energy of sort of wanting to do so.
the word fell out of my head, but essentially my your drive, your competence, your excellence.
Yeah, exactly.
They regarded that as I heard phrases, overheard phrases like fragile male ego, things of that nature.
So, I mean, it's really the landscape is just not hospitable.
And you're absolutely right.
You're only looking for that top 1%.
And thank goodness that the crazy ones.
But, you know, I don't think there was as much obesity in the past.
And I don't think there was as much tattoos in the past.
Well, but male obesity is a little bit higher in America than female obesity.
And listen, you're right.
So the reason why a lot of women are hostile towards men is because they're exploiting men through the power of the state, right?
This is getting twice out of tax, what you pay in, and the men getting half out.
So you have to dehumanize those you exploit because if you see them as fully human, you can't exploit them anymore.
Like the slave owner has to view the slaves as less than human.
He has to view them as beast suburban, as inferior, as livestock or whatever, because he's exploiting them.
And so the previous generation was raised by women who benefited from male attention and companionship, whereas the current generation of women were raised by women, a lot of whom single moms and addicts to state resources and so on.
They are exploiting men, and so they have to dehumanize men.
But you don't want to be with someone who dehumanizes men as a whole, right?
Because that's going to be pretty brutal for you.
So I appreciate that point.
And I thank you for bringing that up.
All right.
Samurai.
Samurai, let us commit Sudoku together.
What is on your mind?
Don't forget to unmute.
Yes, I can.
Hey, hopefully you haven't touched on this.
I've been in and out of the conversation before it closes.
But besides that, one thing to touch on your point with the problem with men, something I've noticed, especially growing up in the 90s, is that it seems like nowadays a lot of men seem to suffer from lack of fathers, high internet usage, which I'm just a black pill.
And that's pretty much my point.
I've noticed a lot of black pilling with young men, and they tend to not put in effort, especially ones raised in single-parent households.
And they give me the biggest problem in communities I've been in.
Yeah, and I think young men feel abandoned by their elders.
And that's why I think a lot of the, that's a great point.
And I appreciate you bringing it up.
And I do think that young men feel abandoned by their elders and betrayed by their elders, which again, I completely understand.
I'm sort of, in a sense, happy to take the rage of the young men, you know, who are like, you know, F off you out-of-touch boomer and stuff like that.
Because yeah, you've been shafted by your elders.
And in particular, the boomers, I feel shafted by the boomers as well.
So I'm with you as far as that goes.
All right.
James P. If you want to unmute, what if I missed in my analysis and understanding of what young men are facing?
James P. If you want to unmute, what if you want to unmute?
Hello.
Yes, go ahead.
Yeah, sorry.
Freaked out there for a sec.
I don't know if you covered towards the beginning, but the sort of competition between men versus women having men and other women on their side, sort of a deference to sort of like in-group female preference versus more competition between like individual men, sort of like cock blocking.
Although, I mean, women do that too.
Sorry, that was a bit of a scattershot there.
Cock blocking that women do too.
I'm not sure I've seen those videos, but tell me a little bit.
Can you give me sort of a more practical example?
And I'm not disagreeing with you.
I just want to make sure I understand what you're talking about.
Sort of just like a general deference that, for instance, if there's, let's say there were a relationship between a man and a woman, if there were some sort of conflict, men would flock to the side of the woman because it's competitive to get her, you know, be in her favor.
And then for other women, they would also flock to that woman because there's more of an in-group social support for other women.
More.
There's no social support for men.
I'm sure you've seen these videos where a woman is really upset in public and everyone comforts her, whereas a man is really upset, everyone just goes around him.
Or a woman is being physically aggressive to a man and everyone avoids it.
And then the man is physically aggressive to a woman and everyone jumps in.
Yeah, I mean, that is the white knight stuff.
I'll rescue you from that big old man and maybe you'll sleep with me.
And that definitely is.
Male betrayal for the sake of female acceptance is a huge issue.
It's not in particular for young men at the moment because it's been historical, but it definitely is a huge issue.
And I appreciate you bringing that up.
All right.
Oh, sorry.
Are we getting to the bottom of the list?
No, we're not.
All right, but I want to get everyone's egoris algorithm.
If you want to unmute, what have I missed?
What have I missed?
How can I be schooled and educated on young men these days?
Don't forget to unmute.
All right.
I'm not hearing anything.
Oh, are you with me?
All right.
You are not with me.
That's all right.
You know, it's been a lengthy show.
I don't even have to pee yet.
Tim, Tim J. If you want to get your larynx in here, caress my ears with your velvet tones, my friend, and tell me what am I missing with regards to young men.
Don't forget to unmute.
Talk to you.
So I was curious, would you say that the dynamic between young men and women has deteriorated over a recent time period, like perhaps the past 10 years?
Yeah, I mean, I certainly think that the propaganda has Just landed like a ton of bricks on the hearts, minds, and wounds of women.
Of course, everyone's seen these graphs of this like massive spike in leftist hysteria.
While the men have often either been stable or gone more slightly conservative, so unfortunately, the bitter fruit of the long walk through the institutions of the leftists has borne its bitter crop with regards to the minds of women these days.
So I do think that that definitely has escalated.
But again, you don't want, if you're a thinking man, you don't want to be with an unthinking woman.
It's exhausting.
It's debilitating.
It's hell.
And so the fact that there's a lot of women who are now openly and nakedly saying, I don't think for myself.
I've just been told that these things are bad and these things are good.
So I just accept that these things are bad and these things are good.
So they've revealed themselves as NPCs and they've taken themselves out of the consideration of my kind of listeners, the top 1%, they've taken themselves out of that consideration.
So it's only the promiscuous who are upset that more women have been propagandized because women have always been propagandized, as have men, of course.
And I'll get to that towards the end of the show.
But yeah, there has been definitely, but all that's happening is the NPCs are now self-stamping.
Like they might as well put on that gray mask, you know, with the L-shaped nose and the blank eyes and the, I support the current thing and the flags and that.
So they're now self-stamping.
They're saying, I don't think for myself and I support the current thing.
And men are like, well, that's terrible.
And I'm like, but is it really, though?
Because you don't want to marry a woman who seems to be able to think and then find out that she's just an NPC.
At least they're self-stamping right up front.
And of course, some of them may be open to reason.
We all start from a state of propaganda.
That's the natural state of a corrupt society.
That's the kind of fallen society that we live in.
Reason has not been a central value in the West for well over 120 years, probably 130 years.
And so we all start from a state of propaganda.
I mean, I was a socialist when I was younger.
And so we all start from a state of propaganda.
And then some people put their efforts into helping us learn how to think and what people do in that fork in the road, right?
What people do when you are given a startling new thought or something comes that doesn't fit, right?
This is the Thomas Sowell thing, like he started as a Marxist.
What do you do when somebody gives you information that is outside your programming?
That is the moment where you generally either come to life or stay dead forever.
And so, you know, recognize that none of us are responsible for the contents of our mind when we're young.
Not foundationally, because there's so much propaganda and it's not just in school, right?
It's all over the media.
It's all over religion these days.
It's just relentless and overwhelming.
And so no young person owns their mind.
We are all colonized by sophists and we have to claw back, you know, foot by foot, sand grained by sand grain.
We have to claw back our own minds from the occupation of sophists and we can help each other with that.
But sorry, go ahead.
I'm with you.
I kind of wanted to get your opinion on one particular aspect.
It's a concern of mine.
And it's sort of the onset of just like smartphones, social media, dating apps, and things like that.
Sorry, smartphone.
Oh, smartphones.
Sorry, go ahead.
Smartphones, social media, dating apps.
And there's this idea that it's kind of changed the entire dynamic or the landscape because the women have sort of unlimited options for partners.
And they can also hide kind of like fidelity.
Like, for example, you know, they have Instagram or something.
You never know who's in their inbox, right?
It could be anyone in your area.
And they can select for extremes and get all kinds of, you know, any type of partner.
Yeah.
For sure.
So you have to have a woman of morality and integrity, without a doubt.
So what the internet has done, and there's a whole other topic, right?
And so I'll just, I'll keep this super, super brief.
So what the internet has done is it's hollowed out the middle.
Because when I was a kid, I grew up at two government-run television stations.
And there was no really, and all the media was just trash and lies and falsehood and garbage.
And there was no internet.
So maybe you could go to the library and if you dug up long enough, you might find some counter-narrative.
But, you know, it was really hard to trust and you couldn't validate stuff really, very well at all.
So what the internet has done is it has given people massive amount of either counter information or propaganda reinforcement.
Right.
And so when you are, as I said before, when you hit with a new piece of information, your mind either recoils against it and calls it evil, and then you just run after the security of the familiar propaganda, or you say, oh, I've not heard that before.
I wonder what that means.
And you start to become curious and explore.
There's no middle anymore.
And everyone recognizes you call two extremists, right?
But I mean, an extremism of truth is not extremism.
It's just an absolutism in reality.
So, yeah, there's a lot of people who get hit with alternate information or opposing information.
When I was growing up, McCarthyism, oh, McCarthy, Joseph McCarthy, the senator from Wisconsin, was just crazy and he hallucinated all of these communists in the State Department and communists everywhere.
And he was just wrong.
And McCarthyism was just a witch hunt and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then I did a whole presentation on McCarthy.
He was right.
I mean, he was actually much more right than he thought.
So you get this counterinformation and then you're like, it's kind of creepy because then you realize how much you've been lied to and so on.
So with the internet, nobody has any excuse for sitting in propaganda anymore because the opposite facts or at least counterinformation is right there available to everyone.
So if somebody stays in propaganda, they're too demoralized to be a good mother for your children because what you want is a mother who's going to help your children learn how to think.
And if she is a propaganda queen, then she's not going to be able to do that.
And you just want to sadly but graciously move on.
All right.
Thank you for your comments.
Pepito, what's on your mind, my friend?
Please, school me.
School me.
Own me.
Own me in what I've got wrong.
Much appreciate your postdoor.
Look, fine for six points.
Marriage.
You're going to play roulettes with bad odds.
You have no guaranteed access to your kids.
I know this a lot, but I'd like to hear your opinions on these.
Marriage is not even the worst risk.
You have IPD and DV, Lochmar, that is basically a trap.
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following what you're saying.
Could you get a bit closer to the mic and slow down a bit?
I do apologize.
No, it's not your fault.
It could be me.
My head said, Is that better?
Much better.
Thank you.
If you can start again, I'd appreciate that.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you so much.
So just a few points, one after the other.
Marriage, you're going to play rat with bad odds with divorce, no pull divorce.
Number two, you have no guaranteed access to your kids.
She can change her mind and uproot you.
Parental alienation is an unchecked thing in the culture of these days.
Number three, marriage is not even the risk.
You have IPD and DVDs even far before.
IPV, intimate partner violence, false allegations.
Okay, got it.
Number four.
I mean, she could even theoretically just beat her own head against the door and get you thrown in jail.
And the neighbors could call the police when she screams, you know, out of her mind for whatever reason.
And the police in general will always arrest you, and they will always believe the woman.
And yeah, it's very dangerous, I guess.
Number four, office work is not safe anymore.
False allegations are right there, and nobody will protect you, personal experience.
Number five, dating apps are the main way youngsters meet.
That's how they are screwed because of what dating ups create a peregamy and women don't want to settle, women don't settle.
And finally, oh yeah, I didn't finish writing that point, so I'll just leave a look at that.
No, I appreciate that.
And I touched on those issues.
You really can't touch on them too much.
So I really do appreciate you bringing that up.
All right.
Let's do one or two more.
Some people got some very strange usernames, man.
Okay, Jomar.
Jomar, take me to church, man.
What have I got wrong?
You will need to unmute.
All right.
I want to get to my final point here, so I'm going to remove him because he ain't talking to me.
It's like my conscience.
Rita Napper.
Rita Napster.
Rita Napper.
Help me out, brother.
What am I messed up?
What am I boomering on?
Unboomer me.
Don't forget to unmute.
Don't forget to unmute.
Well, I guess.
Yeah, go ahead.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
All right, okay, one second.
Sorry, I was going to go somewhere where I didn't think I'd be up this quick.
You may be a premature elaborator, but we'll do our best.
I'll pretend not to be disappointed.
Okay, yeah, no, I was just thinking about trying to find women who had kind of like free of, you know, broken out of propaganda.
And it seems to me more so that the other side than women themselves are trying to get in propaganda.
Hang on, hang on.
Sorry, you're cutting out quite a bit.
You don't have any better signal or anything, do you?
You can go outside, or I don't know if you're on a cell phone or something like that.
Are you saying that people, women want to get into propaganda?
You know what?
You're echoing really bad as well.
So I'm going to drop out because I'm not going to be able to speak to you like this.
Sorry.
Okay, no problem.
I appreciate that.
I've certainly had my issues with tech over the years.
All right.
I think we've got everyone that I think we can get to.
Wait, there's one person I didn't talk to yet.
Sunday.
Sunday, chatty, Sunday.
What's on your mind?
Don't forget to unmute.
What if it goes?
Okay, I'm going to make one quick point.
I think it's a combination of two things.
Number one, men are taking too long to figure out the dating game and why it's important to actually have children.
So by the time they figure out, you know, they've completely turned over the propaganda.
They are no longer demoralized.
They are motivated.
But by the time they get to that point, they have severely missed their window to actually do anything about it.
That's my point number one.
Point number two would be, it is more difficult nowadays to meet people because I think that 1% you're talking about is actually doing a majority of their dating online.
So if so, you're so your barrier to entry to women is more difficult because you can go to the bar, you can go to the library, you can go to the restaurant, you can go to the church, but a lot of these women are self-selecting out of those places for online where their criteria have been warped, where they will no longer give the average guy a chance.
Right.
And my listenership is not average guys.
So the fact that these guys won't give an average guy a chance is something to be welcomed.
I mean, if you're a nuclear physicist, you don't want a job at a fast food place.
And so if the fast food place isn't hiring, that's not really that important to you.
Sorry, I'm going to cancel that.
But I appreciate that.
All right.
So I've given you all, and I really, really appreciate everyone coming in with these comments.
And again, I know we haven't done it all, but let me finish up with what I've been doing.
Has it been sneaky?
Has it been underhanded?
No.
But I can see how you might see it that way.
So what I've been up to?
Everyone's been kind of surprised for the last couple days.
Steph, what are you doing?
What's going on?
How dare you speak to us in this manner?
How dare you shame and blame young men?
It's not their fault.
They didn't build the system right.
Yes, exactly.
You didn't build the system.
You inherited the system.
Hey, you know who else didn't build the system?
You know who else inherited the system?
The young women?
No, the young women are responsible.
This is what people told me.
They're adults.
They're responsible.
Okay, then you are also responsible as a man.
Whatever you lay on the women, you have to accept yourself.
It's one freaking dial.
Dial up responsibility for women, you dial up responsibility for yourself.
You blame women, you have to accept responsibility.
You have to, logically.
I mean, you can have this double standards, but then you're just an asshole.
And as somebody who's had double standards and been an asshole, I say this with all humility, right?
I'm not finger wagging from some noble position of guru-like perfection.
So I'm saying it's up to you.
And you get mad and you say, no, it's impossible.
The system is so bad that I can't win.
Right.
Right.
And I accept that argument.
I'm not saying I fully agree with it.
I accept the argument.
But if you say the system is rigged against me, I can't win.
And I know this is tough.
But the system is also rigged against women and they can't win and they're not winning because women are getting progressively more and more unhappy every decade that modernity steps forward and takes their precious eggs and their uterus in their womb and blows it into intergalactic propagandized socialist dust, pours it into the stratosphere where it vanishes into nothing.
So when I say you're responsible, you've got to fix this, and you say, hey, I'm not responsible.
I didn't build it.
I can't fix it.
The same is true for the women you're wooing.
I mean, I didn't even hint at this.
I said it openly.
People didn't want to hear.
So when a lot of men were saying to me, I can't talk to women in a coffee shop.
If I say hi to a woman in a coffee shop, I could go to jail.
And I say, well, how do you go to jail for saying hi to a woman in a coffee shop?
And then people send me these pictures of like, well, some baristas were like, some guy was talking to a woman and take off the lid of the cup if you need any help.
Are you okay?
Okay.
It says some, you know, kind of paranoid, jumpy, mentally ill person, perhaps like a million miles away.
And now you can't talk to women.
Right.
So I say, go talk to women.
And you say, but I can't talk to women.
I'll go to jail.
And I say, what's the proof?
Doesn't matter.
Nobody gives me any proof.
Nobody gives me any citations.
In other words, you've been propagandized.
After Me Too, which was about men in power exploiting women sexually for the sake of advancing their careers or destroying their careers.
We're talking the Harvey Weinsteins, the people in the music industry.
Like, that's what the Me Too was about, men in power, not young men in coffee shops.
So the men said, well, I'm not going to talk to women because I don't want to bug them.
60% of men, I'm not going to talk to women.
So you got propagandized.
We all get propagandized.
I'm not blaming you for that.
I'm just pointing out that it's true.
And once you recognize your own susceptibility to propaganda, you can have some sympathy for how the women have been propagandized.
You can say, well, yes, but my propaganda is to feel really shitty as a man, but their propaganda is to feel like yes, boss, slay queens.
One is arguably worse.
What's been done to the women in a system they did not build, which has expertly played into women's greatest susceptibility, which is vanity and groupthink, and you can get mad at that if you want, but you're getting mad at the historical line of marching mothers that delivered unto us the greatest treasure in the universe, the unbelievably fantastic human brain that we have.
You know, men and women as a team have created this absolutely glorious furnace of thought, this two or three pounds of wetware encased in a stupid skull that can see to the edges of the known universe and back.
See backwards through time that can create fantastical stories, amazing equations, beautiful works of art, sculpture, morality, ethics, philosophy, men and women in tandem as a team have delivered unto us this glory of the human brain and you dare to shit on women.
And women, you dare to shit on men.
You know what we have created as a team is the greatest glory in the universe.
The only reason the universe has any reason or meaning at all.
Four billion years, it took us to forge this brain in that furnace of suffering.
Hunting, being hunted, dying, we were down to 10,000 souls as a species.
In the last ice age, we were this close to vanishing.
Going to the back rooms, despawning, gone, baby, gone.
And we fought our way back as a team, as men and women.
And you shit on women and women shit on men.
We are the greatest team in the universe.
And what we have created is without precedence as far as we know and beyond compare as far as we know.
There is nothing else in the universe like it.
There may be nothing else in the universe like it.
And we as men and women have produced this incredible mind through four billion years of sloggy, shitty evolution.
Or we have at least carried it forward, if you're religious, through the glowing creations of God's fingertips.
Oh, women are bad.
Oh, men are bad.
It's a PSYOP.
It's a PSYOP.
If you say to me, Steph, I can't talk to girls, I'll go to jail.
And I say, show me the proof, and you can't show me the proof, but you don't shift your beliefs, you've been demoralized, you've been propagandized, and you have no right to shit on women for being propagandized if you're propagandized.
I say this with sympathy.
I spent years, years in propaganda.
I say this with humility.
I say this with no superiority whatsoever as one fellow fucking galley slave to another, as one fellow sufferer of the sophists who run our brains to another.
People say, but you get divorced.
Divorce is a 50%.
I put out very specific facts with backup saying, here's how to get your chance of divorce down to 5% or lower.
A 10 times improvement in risk.
Now, if you really want something and marriage has massive health benefits for men, married men live five to seven years longer, have better health, make more money, have lower stress, higher security on average.
And the 50% divorce rate is total bullshit.
It includes the fake marriages, which are just there for convenience or citizenship.
It includes people who get remarried over and over again.
You get an educated woman who shares your values, your chance of divorce is virtually eliminated.
So people are like, no, no, I'm going to get divorced and she can take half my stuff.
And I say, okay, here are the facts.
Doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Nobody said, holy shit, ballsteph, that's fantastic.
I'm going to check your numbers.
But man, if you can get divorce down to 5% risk or less, that's pretty good.
Doesn't matter.
50%, 50%, 50%, 50%.
It doesn't matter what I say.
You're propagandized.
I say with sympathy, with encouragement.
Do you face shitty uphill battles?
Yes, you do.
I think I went over them.
I accept most, if not all of them.
Are you propagandized?
You fucking are.
This doesn't mean I'm not propagandized.
This doesn't mean I'm superior.
I've just studied this for a long time, and I'm a little older.
So I've seen the way of the world a little better.
I'm not better.
I'm just a little older.
That's all.
You say, 50% divorce.
I say here's how to reduce that by 90%.
Nobody cares.
Which means you're not looking for solutions.
You're looking to justify complaints and fears.
That's propaganda.
And the funny thing is, of course, the whole myth, the whole story is that, well, you know, men, all we want is solutions.
All women want to do is complain and vent their feelings.
Women are 100% accountable, but I'm a victim.
Divorce rates are 50%.
No, you can get them down to 5% pretty easily.
Nobody cares.
Doesn't matter.
It's just to just go on and on.
Fucking boomer, out of touch, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so that's fine.
I understand that, but you're just in a state of propaganda, which is good.
It's good news.
It's fantastic news that you're in a state of propaganda.
Because you can dematrix.
You can wake up.
That's good news.
If you weren't in a state of propaganda, you'd be permanently locked into a state of terror and rage.
There are solutions.
Are they perfect?
No.
Are they possible?
Yes.
Everyone says, Steph, how dare you shame and blame us?
You fucking selfish, evil, old, irrelevant, out-of-touch boomer.
I'm like, oh yes.
So apparently shame and blame is bad, but you can verbally attack me from here.
Now listen, I'm a big boy.
It doesn't really bother me.
It bothers me.
The hypocrisy bothers me, not the verbal abuse.
Because if you say, listen, you got to understand my suffering, then you also have to understand my suffering.
So what's the other thing that I did as part of this social experiment?
I said, I suffered as well as a young man.
Right?
Because you want sympathy for how you suffer as a young man.
And I say, I also suffered as a young man.
And what happened?
You didn't suffer.
It was all imaginary.
The nuclear war never came to pass.
It turned out AIDS was not a heterosexual disease.
There was no peak oil.
Listen, when I was a kid, I was regularly told, as a little kid, that we were going to run out of food by 1980 because there'd be no oil.
There'd be no electricity.
The ozone layer was depleting and we were all going to die of radiation burns.
There was acid rain.
It was going to melt the skin from our bones.
The world at least three times came whisker close to nuclear annihilation.
I grew up in a society with a higher divorce rate than currently exists.
And it's not just because fewer people are getting married.
I grew up with a higher divorce rate and no internet.
I could not get alternate information.
Now, does this mean I suffered more or less than the current generation?
I don't know, but I suffered.
So people who want sympathy from me call me an old, irrelevant fucking boomer who had nothing to fear and never suffered and had it great.
That's suffering from a state of propaganda.
And nobody in these conversations called out these hypocrites who said, don't shame and blame us.
Well, shame, blaming, attacking, verbally abusing, swearing at, and being viciously hostile to me, nobody said, whoa, guys, guys.
He's not shaming and blaming us.
I never said you had no reason to suffer.
I never said all of your fears are imaginary.
So you say, I suffer.
I suffer.
And you, Steph, you never suffered.
All your fears, my fears are very real.
My fears of being humiliated by a woman I ask out, those fears, your fears of absolute, the absolute annihilation of all life on earth.
I know it sounds bizarre.
The absolute annihilation of all life on earth, it had a profound effect on my generation.
Like, no, no kidding.
It had a very profound effect.
What does that have to do with dating?
You can just ask, what does that have to do with dating, Steph?
I don't quite understand.
But no, it's just like, that's got nothing to do with dating.
What the hell does that have to do with dating?
Right?
Just rage and hostility, right?
That's a sign of propaganda.
So if you say, Steph, it's really important that you understand the suffering of a younger generation, I say, well, my generation was even younger than you when I was a kid, right?
So if you say, Steph, you have to understand the suffering of prior generations, like the next generation, I say, well, this was me as a kid.
Oh, you didn't suffer.
That was all bullshit.
It never was any nuclear war.
It didn't come true.
You have access to alternate information that I don't, never did when I was a kid, right?
And nobody's got that principle.
That's called being in a state of propaganda, right?
You want sympathy and compassion for your suffering as a young man.
But when I talk about the suffering that I had as a young man, it's bullshit.
It was all made up.
It was all imaginary.
That is a state of propaganda.
You are programmed to hate.
And I sympathize.
Listen, I've got my issues with the boomers as well.
I get that.
But when you're programmed to demand something, sympathy and understanding and all of that, which I want to provide you, I really do.
But when you are, it's a principle, right?
Which is people should sympathize with the suffering you have as a young man.
I say, well, here's how I suffered as a young man.
No, it's a bullshit.
That's a state of propaganda because you don't even notice the contradiction.
Right?
You don't say, you know what?
I want Steph to sympathize with me.
Steph's saying how he suffered.
I'm going to show him how that's done.
Because empathizing with the suffering of the younger generation, I was the younger generation back in the day, right?
So you say, Steph, how dare you dismiss my fears?
And I say, well, here, well, my fears, I dismiss those.
And this is a state of propaganda is you don't notice that contradiction.
And again, I was very conscious, sort of knew what I was doing and so on, right?
And I'm not saying you're the same as feminists, obviously.
I get that the ideologies are different, but the thought process or really the lack of thought process is kind of the same, which is that feminists are taught or programmed really by culture and education.
They're sort of programmed into who to hate, who to unleash and unload their rage on, right?
And they don't notice the contradictions.
They say, you know, you've seen this a million times, you know, the leftist who's typing on their Apple computer at a Starbucks, you know, using the latest technology about how bad men are and how evil capitalism is.
And like, oh, isn't it so contradictory?
Right.
So my purpose in this, this social experiment of the last couple of days, was to try and drive home a point.
And again, listen, I say this, and I just really want to reiterate this, with absolutely zero sense of superiority because I was older than most of you when I broke out of the matrix.
So I say this with all humility.
I say this with, you guys are probably smarter than I am in the long run, and you probably'll end up wiser than I am in the long run.
So this is not a function of superiority or big brain.
It's just a function of been doing philosophy for 40 years and I'm kind of getting up there in age.
So again, I say this with all humility.
But you're programmed and women are programmed.
Women are programmed to hate you and you're programmed to hate women.
Rather than saying, the two of us have been programmed, perhaps, just perhaps we can defuse some of this programming with each other.
Just perhaps, have sympathy for each other.
Women are targeted with programming involving sympathy and conformity.
And men are programmed with anger and rage.
And by falling into anger and rage at me and at women, you understand it's being channeled away from the ideas that are keeping us all enslaved.
Not the people, the ideas.
I get angry at ideas.
Ideas are the devils that corrupt our communications.
Ideas blind us to our own hypocrisies, which I have and you have, and we should be humble about those things.
Because we're all capable of it.
We all do it.
We all have it.
So women are programmed in ways that don't affect you.
And you're programmed in ways that don't affect women nearly as much.
I mean, there's overlap.
It's a Venn diagram, but for the most part, and the people who program, the people who run these kinds of propaganda things, I mean, they know What they're doing.
It's not an accident.
It's not an accident that you don't notice your own hypocrisy any more than it's an accident when I don't notice my own hypocrisy.
It's not an accident that you've been programmed to dismiss all of your elders, even those who've been fighting the system as I have, for over 40 years.
Right?
Come September, it'll have been 44 years I've been fighting the system and everybody blew up in rage at me.
Now, I understand I was being provocative.
It was part of an experiment to see if people noticed hypocrisy and to see if men could self-police each other.
Because a lot of what the men's rights activists say, and I understand this and I sympathize with this too, a lot of what the men's rights activists say is they say, hey man, women won't listen to us.
Women have to police each other.
Women are going to have to deal with this.
They're going to have to figure this stuff out, right?
Okay.
So those of you, and again, I sympathize.
I'm just pointing it out.
There's not any big nagging or nagging or anything like that.
I sympathize.
But those of you who've known what I've been up to for a long time did not intervene when the young guns kind of exploded in rage at me.
You didn't say, oh, no, he's talked about this.
No, he interviewed Rolo Tomasi.
No, he's been doing the men's rights stuff forever.
Here's a speech he gave in, you know, 15 years ago about whatever it is, right?
Like, you know, this guy's on your side.
Didn't do that, right?
So again, it's not a big problem.
I'm just sort of pointing out that if you expect women to challenge each other for their wrong opinions or their outlandish emotional explosions, which come from a place of frustration and anger, which I completely sympathize with.
And please understand, I'm not taking it personally.
It's not about me.
I know you're not mad at me.
I know that you're mad at society.
You're mad at certain betrayals from the elder generation, which, again, I completely sympathize with, understand.
And I don't hold you morally responsible.
I'm not mad at you.
I'm not hurt myself.
Not that you care.
I'm just telling you my state of mind.
I'm more concerned about the lack of knowledge of the contradictions that are occurring, right?
Because when you say women are 100% responsible for their hypocrisy, it's like, okay, let's dial it up for women, dial it up for yourself, which means if you say women are 100% responsible and have to think through their propaganda, then so are you.
I'm not asking or imposing any standards on you that you're not already imposing on women.
Say women have to break out of their matrix.
Well, so do you.
I'm being taught to hate women, being taught to be mad at women, who are the targets of unbelievable levels of propaganda.
And their propaganda, you envy them because their propaganda is based on praise and the elevation of vanity.
That's even harder to get out of.
I would rather be cursed unjustly than praised unrealistically.
It's easier to get out of a curse than a praise.
It's easier to get out of a dungeon than a golden palace that locks from the outside because it's so comfortable.
And if you can see the propaganda in yourself, then you can fight the propaganda in others.
But if you think you are just so red-pilled and so understand, you know, you understand, you got it, you're not propagandized, you've broken out of the matrix, you're just totally clear-eyed.
Oh my God, bro.
I've been working in philosophy for 43 years.
I still have stuff to work on.
Youth and certainty can be a beautiful combination.
And I'm not saying don't be certain.
I'm a big one for certainty.
Big one because you've got to build your house on a solid foundation.
But if you think that you're immune to propaganda, you know, there's propaganda that's come from the government and there are propaganda that come from red pillars too.
And the propaganda, and they, you see, you say that women are susceptible to praise, but when people come to you and say, women are the problem, and you're totally free of propaganda.
I'm not going to challenge anything in you, then they've looked at how praise has corrupted women and now they're just praising you to get money, looks, likes, clicks, whatever, right?
I'm not naming anybody in particular.
It's a phenomenon.
It happens on the left, happens on the right, happens all over.
Where you get to be praised and you get to be called perfectly rational and reasonable and everyone else is crazy.
That's a dangerous place to be, man, because then you stop working on yourself and you stop challenging the falsehoods within yourself, which we're all born, birthed, and weaned on.
From the moment we drop out of our mother's womb, we are lied to.
And recovering honesty, authenticity, empathy, and the true self is not an easy process, my friends.
It's a beautiful fucking process.
I love it to death.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
I mean, okay, maybe I'd like to be a little less lied to when I was younger.
But this process of whittling down and getting to the truth is a powerful and beautiful thing.
You have sisters enslaved by the hive mind as you and I and everyone are enslaved by the hive mind.
You have sisters trapped just as you're trapped.
Damning them is implicitly praising yourself.
You say, oh, the women, they're so vain.
They just think they're all that.
They think they're so perfect and they look down on us men.
It's like, but you're doing the same thing.
You're doing the same thing.
We all get lied to turning on each other for the effects of falsehood is a form of vanity because it pretends that we're somehow, we've escaped all the propaganda.
We know what's what.
We've reached the final boss of falsehoods and the feminists are all wrong and we're all right.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
And again, I say this with very deep sympathy and very deep empathy.
And you got a raw deal.
Men in general get a raw deal.
The solution is morals, peaceful parenting, the non-aggression principle, deep integrity, and challenging yourself when you think you know for certain that you're 100% the good guy, and everyone else, women as a whole, are 100% the bad people, and they're fully responsible, but you're a victim, and you deserve sympathy as a younger person.
But when I was a young person, I just deserved scorn and condemnation, that you shouldn't be shamed and blamed, but you then shame and blame me and other people and women and everyone.
You just got to unravel all of these knots.
And it's not easy, but man, it's worthwhile.
Holy crap, is it ever worthwhile?
I'm telling you this, man.
Like I was born with all these lies and contradictions and I'm not free of them all.
You know, it's like unlearning your native tongue.
It's pretty tough.
It's pretty tough.
But your sisters in propaganda are not your enemies.
And if you approach them with this level of hatred and aggression and anger and self-righteousness and superiority, how foundationally and emotionally are you different from the self-righteous feminists who curse all men?
It's two sides of the same propaganda coin.
Someone's got to break out of it.
Someone has to.
So yeah, I came in pretty hard.
And I provided counter-evidence and saw it completely brushed aside.
My God, you all get so frustrated when the feminists reject facts.
I pumped fact after fact into this discussion and just got ever-increasing escalations of rage, hostility, and verbal abuse.
And I don't say this is some delicate flower.
I'm fine.
I'm in a boxing ring.
I'm going to come out with some black eyes.
That's fine.
That's the deal.
This is the gig.
My gig as a philosopher is to challenge you and challenge myself.
But you look back over these threads, man.
I put out real facts.
And then people, I saw people at Grok.
I saw people go and check them.
Didn't matter.
I could statistically give you the principles that reduce your chances of getting divorced to almost nothing.
Doesn't matter.
Still terrified of divorce, right?
And you say, well, if I go talk to a woman at Starbucks, she could put me on blast on social media.
Okay, so let's say you go and you say, hi, to some woman at Starbucks.
Hey, nice nails.
Believe it or not, women love that, right?
Great nails.
Or I saw you were reading this book earlier.
What did you think?
I was thinking of get it, get it.
I'm not sure.
Whatever.
You're just polite, right?
And let's say that she records you and puts you on blast on social media.
And let's say it goes viral.
Oh my God, the worst thing ever, right?
It goes viral.
Trust me, I've had to deal with a little bit of being put on blast on social media.
My picture was three times on the cover of the New York Times as a very, very bad man.
I've been through this.
I've got some experience with this.
But here's the thing.
If you get put on blast for being polite and friendly to a woman, could be the greatest thing that's ever happened to you.
The greatest.
Because do you know how many women will message you and say, I can't believe you got treated that way.
We're not all like that.
You seem like a really great guy.
And you might get, this may get you your wife.
I'm not kidding about this.
Because when it comes to threat assessment, right?
Assessment of risk.
Video games distort this.
I'm not down on video games, love video games, but they do distort your assessment of risk because you're in a very much non-physically dangerous environment.
You get your saved games.
You can try stuff and research.
It doesn't help you assess risk in the real world.
So the odds of you going to jail for saying hi to a woman in Starbucks is almost infinitely lower than the odds of you getting hit by a bus or a car going to Starbucks.
Yet still you go to Starbucks.
You ever taken a plane?
You're more likely to die in a plane crash, I bet, than go to jail for talking to, saying hi to a woman in Starbucks.
Also, men lie.
Men lie.
You think only women lie?
My God.
Of course men lie.
And some guy's going to say, hey, man, all I did was, I just said hi to her.
And next thing you know, the cops are there.
You don't think men lie?
You don't think maybe he was creepy?
You don't think maybe he copped a feel?
You don't think maybe he grabbed her hand and put it on his groin when he was out of sight of the cameras?
Could happen.
Oh, no, right?
My God.
Be skeptical.
It's the internet.
"Internet is a string of mostly false pixels attempting to rob you of your… lineage!" "Internet is a string of mostly false pixels and the most visible image of the image is a string of the image." You're not free of propaganda.
I'm not free of propaganda.
The ladies are not free of propaganda.
And we can either attack each other or we can get together, try and reason with those who are still capable of reason, who have been purely demoralized, where facts don't matter.
I hope that you're not one of those people.
I put out counterfacts, right?
It's a logical statement.
If you say I could go to jail for saying hi to a woman in Starbucks and I say, well, you're in more danger going to Starbucks, but you still do that.
That's a fact.
Oh, you know what?
That's true.
How many people over the course of the last couple of days when I put out fact after fact after fact said to me, you know what?
That's a really good piece of information.
I can't disagree.
Like, yeah, I checked it out.
That's a fact.
You know what?
You're right.
You're right.
Because you're all mad at the women who choose the bear, right?
And I understand that.
It's offensive, right?
You choose the bear, right?
You're mad that women choose the bear over a man, right?
A woman in the wilderness does face the possibility, not big, not high, does face the possibility of stalking, rape, sexual assault.
And go talk to women who've had any kind of prominence on the internet and ask them for their stalker stories.
And there are some creepy men out there that make women afraid.
We all know this.
There's not many, but there's some, and it's a factor.
It's a real thing.
So y'all are mad.
And again, I understand the offense.
I really do.
And I sympathize with it.
But y'all are mad at women who say, well, I choose the bear.
I'll choose the bear over a man, right?
Okay.
I, again, I sympathize.
That is offensive.
That is upsetting.
That is annoying, right?
And very, very unpleasant.
And it bothers you, right?
Okay.
So you say women shouldn't be so frightened of men.
We're not all like that.
We're not going to attack you.
We're not going to destroy you.
We're not going to, you know, rape you in the woods.
We're not going to be so frightened of men.
And then you say, a woman's going to throw me in jail, get me thrown in jail if I talk to her at Starbucks and say hi.
So you're saying women shouldn't be so afraid of men that they choose the bear.
And then you say, I can't say hi to a woman because she'll throw me in jail.
Now, the odds that a woman is going to have a negative interaction with a man in the wilderness is far higher than the odds that you're going to go to jail for saying hi to a woman in a coffee shop.
But you see, your fears are real.
The woman's fears are irrational.
Just as your suffering as a young man is real, but my suffering as a young man was bullshit.
This is dangerously close to solipsism, if not downright, and I use this as an amateur term, narcissism.
Only my suffering matters.
Only my fears are real.
Everybody else's fears are completely illusory.
Only my fears matter.
So she's terrified of meeting a man in the woods.
You're terrified of meeting a woman in the woods that you might have to talk to, and you're more scared for less reason.
More women seem to go hiking than young men talking to women in coffee shops.
Oh, her fears of the bear are completely irrational.
Sorry, her fears of the man are completely irrational.
But my fears of going to jail for talking to a woman in Starbucks are completely rational.
She shouldn't be scared of men.
Most men are really nice, but I should be terrified of talking to a woman in Starbucks because I could go to jail.
Do you see, this is propaganda.
It is straight up propaganda and it is taking offense that women are scared of men while being terrified of women.
And I say this with sympathy.
I'm just trying to unravel these knots in your mind so that you have some choice and you're not just reacting.
Are you irrationally scared of women?
Oh, divorce.
Yes, okay.
But I gave you the facts and the data, which meant nothing to anyone.
I saw hundreds of thousands of people interacting with my posts over the last couple of days.
I saw not one person who said, you know what?
I checked out your data.
Holy crap.
I've been terrified of 50% divorce for my whole life.
I looked into the facts.
Yeah, you can get it down to 5%.
Holy crap.
Thank you.
It's lifted a huge burden from my mind.
This is exactly the same as women saying, well, there are a lot of men who are rapists.
And you come back and you say, no, it's really only a couple of percent of men and blah, blah, blah, the things you can do.
They don't care.
They don't care.
Like, isn't that frustrating?
When people have overblown fears and you show them the facts and the data that say these fears are not as valid as you think they are.
And they don't care.
So I've been basically dealing with the mindset equivalent of feminists on the male side for the last couple of days.
And again, I say this for sympathy, just as I would say it to women.
They're programmed.
You're programmed.
I'm programmed.
We got to help each other out, brothers and sisters.
We got to help each other out, not turn on each other.
Slave on slave violence is how the ownership continues.
Do you see?
You go back and you tell me how rational and rejective these men are.
Say, well, I'm terrified of this.
I don't want this.
I want to get divorced raped.
I'm terrified of this.
Okay, here's the data.
Doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
They don't care.
Nobody comes back and says, oh, okay, I get it.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
You got to have sympathy for young men.
Well, here's what I suffered with as a young man.
I don't have any sympathy for that.
What are you crazy?
I'm scared of going to jail for saying hi to a woman at Starbucks, but you had no reason to be afraid of the entire fucking planet being turned into glass through nuclear war throughout your entire childhood.
Scientists and everyone in authority was saying there was going to be mass starvation by the year 1980, but you had no reason to fear that.
But that woman in Starbucks, who might give me the side eye if I say hi, that's fucking terrifying.
Global nuclear war is nothing.
She might frown.
That's propaganda.
I'm not trying to humiliate anyone.
That's propaganda.
That's the power of propaganda.
All your fears are real, no matter how minor.
Everyone else's fears are irrelevant, no matter how powerful.
I'm not trying to do a war of who suffered more.
I'm not trying to do that.
But there was suffering before you.
Guess what?
They'll be suffering after you.
Do we still have to find a way to move forward?
I think we do.
Can you move forward with love and positivity and some authority?
Maybe a little bit of kick-assing from time to time because that's necessary.
Can you do that?
I don't know.
Is it possible?
Yes, it is.
Do people still find the loves of their lives, get married, settle down and have children in this world?
Yes, they do.
Are you a particularly white male facing massive discrimination in the job market?
Yes, you are.
Maybe you can carve off with some friends some of those 19 hours that a lot of you are playing in video games.
Not to hate on video games.
They're a lot of fun.
Maybe you can carve off at least half of that time, get together with some friends and brainstorm about how to make some money and start a company.
Because if people won't hire you, maybe you can hire yourself.
Maybe you can hire each other.
Scared of AI?
Learn about AI.
Figure out how to use it to make money.
It's not impossible.
Can you get more used to talking to women?
Can you recognize that they are your sisters in the flesh who've been propagandized just as you've been propagandized?
You've been propagandized To oppose each other, so you don't look up and see all of the mad, bad, corrupt ideas that are screwing us all up.
That's my plea.
That's the purpose of what I've been doing for the last two days.
I wanted to see, you say facts don't matter to the feminists, okay?
Do facts matter to you?
Well, women are responsible.
They don't listen to reason.
Okay, are you responsible?
Have you listened to reason?
Shaming and blaming is bad.
You out-of-touch, asshole boomer.
Okay, you're shaming and blaming me.
Oh, well, that was just in retaliation.
Okay, well, no, because I didn't insult anyone.
I exhorted.
I said, your fears are not as strong as you think they are.
And I gave the data to support it, but the data didn't matter, which means that this is programmed fear.
This is what Yuri Besmanov referred to as demoralization.
The facts don't matter.
So, well, facts don't matter to feminists.
Okay, did facts matter to you?
Again, I say with love, affection, and sympathy.
As one fellow serf to another, as one tat serf to another, women are not your enemy.
Propaganda is your enemy.
And fight the bad ideas with everything you've got, peacefully, reasonably, obviously.
Facts, data, reason, and evidence.
Philosophy.
Thank you.
But don't say that women are vain and puffed up and lack empathy while you think you're perfect, are puffed up, and not only lack empathy, but have a lot of hostility.
You see, if you think it's really bad, just, you know, just in terms of basic empathy, if you think it's really bad for a woman to give you side eye or curl the lip or make fun of you or whatever when you ask her out, what do you think it's like for me when everyone's pouring this vitriol at me?
And again, it's fine.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Honestly, it's fine.
It's a social experiment to see if you have empathy, to see if you have consistency, to see if you understand your own capacity for hypocrisy, which is the foundation of wisdom.
And most importantly, to see, do you know you're propagandized?
Do you get the contradiction of saying women are 100% responsible, young women, and I clarified this many times over the last couple of days, young women are not responsible for what programmed them as children.
Neither are you.
Neither was I. Have some sympathy for each other.
Recognize with all due humility how we've all been programmed.
Work to help people free themselves of their programming as best you can without self-immolation.
Nobody's asking you to go into the fever swamp of the completely demoralized and destroy your own life, not saying anything like that.
But not from a place of hatred, my friends.
My brothers, my sisters, not from a place of hatred.
Because everybody's on the right is, oh, holding women accountable.
We've got to hold women accountable.
Okay, so I'm going to hold you guys accountable.
And if you explode with anger, as most of you did, if you explode with anger at being held accountable, that's fine.
Then don't hold women accountable.
But if you're going to hold women accountable, hold yourselves accountable and find a way to get through to each other with love and sympathy, which is not to say self-immolation.
So that's what I was up to for the last couple of days.
I hope it helps.
I hope it makes sense.
I'm not even going to ask for donations because I'm sure a lot of you are really pissed.
That's fine.
Honestly, that's the gig.
The job of the philosopher is not to be popular and it's not even to be liked in the moment.
The job of your personal trainer is not to be liked in the moment, but for you to be fitter and healthier down the road.
And it might take you five years, might take you 10 years before you look back and you say, man, that was really helpful.
Hopefully it's sooner than that.
Hopefully it's not never, but that's what I was up to the last couple of days.
And I really hope that that helps in terms of reason, compassion, empathy, love, affection, and humility.
Humility is the foundation of growth.
You have to know where you're limited, just as I do, in order to grow.
So thank you, everyone, for a wonderful evening.
I know it was a long show.
I appreciate everyone who called in.
I look forward to your feedback, and I love you guys very much.
And I'm really, really glad about what happened over the last couple of days.
I think it's going to be fantastic for everyone.
I really do appreciate everyone who spat and cursed at me.
Obviously, we should have been different, but you got to work with what is.
And I hope that it's been helpful.
And I will see you soon.
Stefan Molyneux from freedomain.com.
Signing out, my friends.
Take care.
And good night.
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