June 2, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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| All right, so let's go a little forward a bit. | |
| Tell me everything that you know about the Polynesian deity Lono. | |
| Okay, so this is an interesting argument, and I won't go through the whole thing here. | |
| So this guy's argument is saying there's a Polynesian deity called Lono. | |
| Do you know anything about it? | |
| And Jordan Peterson says, I don't know anything about it. | |
| And then this guy says, so do you reject the Polynesian deity Lono? | |
| And Jordan Peterson won't answer that, right? | |
| Because the thing is, can you reject something that you don't know anything about? | |
| Can you reject something that you don't know anything about? | |
| Well, sure. | |
| Sure. | |
| I mean, other than it's a Polynesian deity called Lono, which is a certain amount of effects, right? | |
| And so, if you're comfortable rejecting the validity of a Polynesian deity called Lono, even though you don't know anything about it, then not knowing anything about it is not a reason to... | |
| Or disbelieve in it, right? | |
| So not knowing anything about it is not a standard by which you would judge belief or non-belief. | |
| L-O-N-O. | |
| Is this in the universe? | |
| Answer that question once you answer my question, which is, do I reject everything that I'm ignorant of? | |
| Do I reject everything that I'm ignorant of? | |
| Well, of course not. | |
| However, as the atheist position is... | |
| So the atheist position, and I've just sort of run past it here, and it's really annoying to me that these weren't the arguments that were made, is I would say, can self-contradictory entities exist? | |
| If I take the atheist argument, the atheist would say, can self-contradictory entities exist? | |
| And this is Aristotle's basic A is A, the three laws of logic. | |
| A self-contradictory entity exists. | |
| Can something exist that is both a tree and an elephant at the same time? | |
| Can something exist that is a square circle? | |
| Right? | |
| Can something exist that has self-contradictory properties? | |
| Can water exist as ice and steam, the same water, the same molecules, can they exist as ice and steam at exactly the same time? | |
| Can you freeze water above 100 degrees centigrade? | |
| No, it boils away, right? | |
| So, can self-contradictory entities exist? | |
| And the answer cannot be yes. | |
| Because that is to say that madness is true, that dreams are more real than the real world and so on, right? | |
| So, it can't be the case that self-contradictory entities exist. | |
| You can't. | |
| You can't. | |
| You then can't mark anyone as wrong in a math or spelling. | |
| Maybe the spelling of a particular word is both what you think it is and what's in the dictionary and the opposite of that. | |
| So, maybe two and two is four and two and two is five. | |
| So, the reason you know two and two is not five, but four is that two and two is five creates a self-contradictory entity. | |
| That four equals five can't be both, right? | |
| It's contradictory. | |
| So, the question is, do self-contradictory entities exist? | |
| And that's all it comes down to. | |
| Now, If you accept that self-contradictory entities don't exist, and a debate has to, because if you make a contradictory statement in a debate, you're caught out and considered to be false. | |
| Or the statement is false, right? | |
| So, do self-contradictory entities exist? | |
| Goes the atheist argument. | |
| Is God a self-contradictory entity? | |
| If God is a self-contradictory entity, then God does not exist. | |
| Right? | |
| Again, you can make God out of the universe and so on, but we're talking about exist as being within the universe. | |
| Because you can't create an alternative universe where the opposite of true is true, and therefore you're right, right? | |
| So if I say two and two make four, and you say two and two make five, and I say no, and here's the proof, and you say no, no, no, but in an alternative universe where being wrong is being right, two and two make five, and therefore You can't tell me that I'm wrong. | |
| That's just making up an imaginary realm where falsehood equals truth and then saying I'm right. | |
| Honestly, that's not what sane people do. | |
| That's not what healthy people do. | |
| I mean, you imagine that as a defense, right? | |
| Some guy kills a woman and then says, no, no, no, but in an alternative universe, it's legal. | |
| And in an alternative universe, she's still alive. | |
| Therefore, you can't prosecute me. |
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