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Dec. 16, 2024 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
35:30
Izzy AMA - TEEN SOCIAL MEDIA ADDICTION!
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All right, you hold that.
We're here.
I hold it.
Can I just put it there?
No, hold it up a little.
Okay.
Now, you're going to be doing most of the talking.
I'm such a yapper.
Jesus Christ.
That was so loud.
Dear God.
It's like a machine gun.
As you can tell, guys, Canadian winters are very fun to drive in.
They are here.
Our car is not working.
No, I'm kidding.
We're good.
Okay, so we're doing an AMA for Izzy.
Me, haha.
I'm not very good at intros, as you can tell.
However, I will pretend to be good at intros.
And we're gonna start.
Thanks for the input.
Okay, question number one.
How is work going at the new cafe?
It's going well.
I like the cafe.
It's an interesting environment because there's some language barriers between me and my co-workers because their English is not very good.
But it's a really nice environment, way less stressful than the other place I worked at, which was everyone was nitpicking everything.
I have one co-worker who's like that, but everyone else is pretty chill.
Just so those of you who don't know, everyone's had this experience at one time or another.
It's the co-worker who pretends she's a boss.
Oh, yeah.
Not exactly a boss, because my boss is still chill.
An authority, maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
But, yeah, she's really annoying, but everyone else is okay.
The only problem is that I do have most of my shifts with her.
The biggest problem with the workplace is, when I say I have most of my shifts, I mean I have two days a week when I was hired to be put on close to full-time.
Yeah, they were aiming for full-time, and it's just not that many hours, which is a shame.
And sometimes, like, the manager will send out, like, updated hours throughout the week, so maybe I have, like, a 13-hour work week, which is good for this place, which is kind of ridiculous.
But then she puts out an updated one where it's, like, it gets reduced to, like, 11 hours or something.
I'm not a bad worker, because they have basically two full-time people, and then everyone else gets, like, 10 to 15 hours a week.
Which is really bad because they did say they were putting me on for close to full time.
And I got more hours.
When I'm training, they gave me a bunch of hours because it was like coming these three days for like long shifts.
You can see how the cafe operates for a day.
But once I'm out of training, it's like not much, but it's not a bad workplace.
Just as long as I get less shifts with that one coworker, I'll be happy.
Yes.
So she just, every time you make even the tiniest mistake for the rest of the day, she's like, oh, but don't make that mistake again.
No, no, it's not.
It's worse than that.
Because, like, I know how to mop, right?
Everyone knows how to mop.
And then she'll come out and she's like, what are you doing?
And I'm like, I'm mopping the floor like you asked.
And she's like, well, why didn't you clean the kitchen?
And I'm like, because you told me to mop the floor.
And she's like, well, I told you to clean the kitchen.
I'm like, well, I can't do everything at once.
And also there were a lot of food orders.
So I did clean the kitchen earlier today, but it's gotten dirty since.
And she's like, well, why don't you go clean the kitchen?
And then five minutes later, she'll be like, why is it not mopped?
Yeah, yeah.
So it's that kind of person.
Like you can't win no matter what you do.
Yeah.
Yeah, I asked.
Yeah, go ahead.
No, go ahead.
No, you go.
Well, I've obviously trained you in that from birth.
Yeah, right.
So it's very sickly familiar.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Hi, Izzy.
What is the number one problem that people have these days?
One word answer.
I'm going to co-join the word social media.
Go on.
Or I'm just going to say like tablets or iPhone or whatever.
I mean, they said one word answer.
I guess I got to move on.
No, no, no.
That's a one word introduction.
One word introduction would be like social media or like digital stuff, like that stuff.
I think it's messing with a lot of people's just like attention spans would be the biggest one.
I think it's sets a lot of unrealistic standards just for anything like Whether it's like how you should look or how you should act.
I see these videos and most of the ones I see are people actually making fun of them where it's like you see oh my morning routine and you get up at freaking like 5am and have like you do everything like you clean your entire house you do this and then they're they say all this stuff like now I drink a cup of boiling water with like half a lemon and it's just like Have an ice bath, do 400 crunches.
Yeah, it's those things.
It's not even like the stuff where it's like how you look or how you act or what you do for work.
It's just stuff like that as well, where it's like having, I want to say quote-unquote unrealistic standards for how to live day-to-day life.
I know some people just watch them for entertaining, but I feel like for a lot of people, it really seeps in.
I think there's a lot of them, sorry to interrupt, there's some of them that are like, your job sucks, because my job is like, well, I come in on the bus, and then they have frothy lattes, and then I do a little bit of work, and then we do cool stuff on the roof among the potted plants, and it's like, nobody has a job that's that good, I want to make six figures, and it's like, nobody's job is that good.
Yeah, so it's a lot of stuff where I think it just sets, I want to say, unrealistic standards.
And I know that is kind of an overused term nowadays, but I think it's kind of real for social media.
And again, the biggest one would be ruining attention spans, especially among younger people.
So how's that playing out for you and your set?
I don't mind.
Like, I think my attention spans are okay.
They could be better, and they were a bit better before I discovered YouTube shorts, but...
Or really Instagram reels or anything like that.
That's just, like, those short, like, minute-long clips.
They're bad.
Minute?
Minute is like an...
It's extended movies for those guys.
Honestly, but I know.
I see it in a lot of my friends.
Just, like...
It doesn't even really matter what.
Whether you're telling a story or you're in class, they're just fidgeting and bored.
You should be able to sit through a 30-minute thing without...
Or hear a normal human-told story.
Yeah, or hear a normal story without trying to interrupt and make jokes constantly and stuff like that.
Obviously, they're teenagers.
I'm a teenager, so it is what it is.
But you should have a little bit more attention span just for anything.
Well, and I think we combat that a little bit with longer stories.
We combat that a little bit with longer conversations.
We combat that a little bit with longer Dungeons and Dragons.
I feel like even watching...
Okay, like, people say, like, oh, it's bad to binge-watch movies or shows.
I think watching, like, 40 minutes...
Sorry, watching, like, two or three episodes of some series on Netflix or whatever you're up to...
It's way better than watching an hour worth of shorts or half an hour worth of shorts, because at least it's a long, continual story.
You can think about the plot.
I don't think you should be doing that every day, but still, like, it's so much better to watch a long movie or a few episodes of a show than, like, short videos on real Instagram or Twitter or whatever it is.
Are you excited to learn how to drive?
Wait, wait, one other thing.
It's the sort of absence of socializing without computers.
Oh yeah, I would like to see my friends go for a day without their phones.
It would not, it could not.
Or just get together to chat or like, but without like, here's a funny meme.
Here's a funny short.
Here's a, you know.
No, it's ridiculous.
We'll go to some theme park like Canada's Wonderland and we're in the lineup.
It's like a 10 minute lineup because no one goes to Canada's Wonderland.
I mean, they do, but it's like we, we find the right times to go, right?
It's a 10 minute lineup.
They all pull out their phones.
Guys, use your words and talk.
And obviously, I mean, they can and definitely some of them do.
So like, if it's six of us going, there's usually two or three that will go without their phones all the time.
So we'll talk and then the other three will be showing each other videos and stuff like that, right?
It's like, guys, it's not, it's 10 minutes, like, Well, when I was, I guess, about a little younger than you, I was still in England, and we all used to watch Doctor Who.
It gave me serious PTSD, like the upside-down garbage cans known as the exterminate Daleks.
But there was one kid who had real hippie parents.
They had no TV. Yeah.
He could not participate in, like, half the conversations because the brain rot was real even back there.
Well, genuinely, like, when I, before, I think when I, uh, what am I trying to say?
Last year, I didn't really do much, anything on social media.
And I still don't do much, but I, if I watched, like, I don't know, YouTube, I'd watch some, like, game lore video or something that doesn't have anything to do with current events.
The only current events would be, like, the game came out a month ago or something like that, right?
But my friends would say stuff like memes or trends and I'd just be like, what are you on about?
Because I had like no idea.
Or they'd make a joke and I'd just be staring at them like, what?
So it's definitely, I think you should do a little bit of social media to keep up with the trends, but just not the extent that a lot of people do it nowadays are a problem.
Sorry, hang on.
This has caused me a fair amount of personal pain and I'm just going to unpack this for the audience.
So ever since Baldur's Gate 3, we've been looking for a game to play.
Wait a second, we got a game up there on Baldur's Gate.
We'll get there, we'll get there.
So we've been looking for a game to play.
Now, one of the things that's been personally the most painful to me, and I'm not just talking about like recently, but like in my entire life ever, is you're very much into video game lore, right?
And so I'll find a game and I'll say, this looks interesting.
And what do you say?
You say, oh, the lore for this is incredible, right?
Yeah, but the game sucks.
But my hope will go up.
Because if you like the lore, I'm like, oh, well, we should play then.
And you say...
There's a reason I watch the lore and don't play the games.
I do not have the time to invest in, like, a 20-hour game, follow all the story, and get it done soon enough that I don't forget what happened a month ago when I started playing.
Okay, I watch the lore video, and then maybe I'll watch some gameplay, and if the gameplay looks like some just The same old, same old shooter.
It doesn't matter what same old shooter you have, and you don't have to spend $30 on a new game to get the exact same gameplay style as the game we already have.
I love all the backstories in Lord of the Rings.
Would you like to read Lord of the Rings?
No.
Because I've already read it.
I'm not going to re-watch the same lore video twice.
All right.
I'm trying to listen to what you say with calm and rationality, but okay, I'm failing.
I'm trying.
Let's move on.
Are you excited to learn how to drive and get your license?
I'm excited to drive.
I'm not excited for the freaking year-long process to get my license.
Yeah.
It's like, take this test, which I think I can do fine.
I'm like, I know the basics and I'll study a bit and stuff like, right?
Right.
But take the test, pass the test.
Then you have to drive for a year with another supervised or supervising driver.
No, no.
The technical term is nagger.
Yeah, a nagger in the car.
Don't forget your turn signal.
Check your blind spot.
I'm never driving with mom or you.
Fair.
Gonna get, like, someone else.
You'll hire someone.
Yeah, I'll hire someone.
But then it's like, and then do that for a year or eight months or whatever it is.
I don't even know.
And then, like, take this.
Oh, also, you have to do that.
Then, if you want to get it in under, like, 16 months, you have to go with, like, a driving instructor.
Look, I get it.
You know, driving in Canada is complicated because the roads get icy and it gets way harder when it's icy.
But, like, I don't like that it has to be a year and a half to two years sometimes when some people are just going to be better at it.
I'm not sure whether I'm one of those people or not.
Maybe I'm just not going to be good at driving and I'm going to really need all that training.
I have a feeling that's not going to be the case, but we'll see.
All I'm saying is that some people are going to be better at it, some people are going to be worse at it, and it should be custom to each person.
So I have a tiny little story about driver's licenses.
Yeah.
So many years ago, when I lived in downtown, when I worked downtown, of course, at Caribou, and I was in a rush, I was going to therapy, and I was late, and I turned too quickly and I crunched the door of my car.
And I was really upset because, you know, there's my first car and all of that.
Yeah.
And it was like, I never got it fixed because it was like 2,500 bucks to get fixed.
And it was like no harm to the car in terms of like drivability.
But anyway, I called up my insurance company and I said, can you get this fixed?
And they said, well, yeah, but your premiums are going to go up.
And then they said, wow, your premiums are really high.
I wonder why that is.
So it turns out I had not completed the final written test because some new graduated license thing had come into place.
I'd never completed the final test of the new graduated license thing, so I couldn't get better insurance rates.
No!
So me crunching my door saved me probably...
About $15,000 because I wouldn't have called my insurance company and found that out otherwise, which is why it's really hard to know whether things in life are good or bad.
It's like I crunched my door.
Oh, that's terrible.
But it saves me $15,000 over the next couple of years.
And so, yeah, it's hard to know sometimes whether things are good or bad in the moment.
But anyway, that's just my little license story.
Yeah.
Next one.
Can we get an update on your progress in Baldur's Gate?
Yeah, I've played through it like five times.
No!
I thought it was four!
Five, because I did one with you.
Well, we didn't finish that one together.
Yeah, we did.
I came back for chunks of it.
Well, you came back to help me with the end.
Well, the end and also the story.
You're like, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
Yeah.
Now, it was tough for you to play with me directly because you were so astounded by my skill that...
Okay, guys.
I completed the game on the moderate difficulty, like the middle, without...
I did not use a single consumable aside from health potions.
I went through...
No scrolls, no other potions.
No scrolls, no other potions.
I think maybe once on the final boss fight, I used one of the bombs.
I forget exactly what they're called.
But not like a magic item, like one of the bombs you find places.
And health potions.
That's all I used.
Now, I didn't actually tell you this, but I did it, hang on, I did it on super hard, blindfolded, using only my tongue on a touchscreen to move the characters around.
So that's got to count for something.
That's literally pointless.
Well, no, because I wasn't pointing.
I was using my...
Sorry, that's...
Okay.
But...
I played through it multiple times.
I just wanted to get more familiar with the rules of D&D. And also I thought, look, we got it on sale, but I still spent like $60 on that game.
I'm getting my money's worth.
That's what I'm trying to say.
So it was over the course of a year.
I didn't do it all in like a month.
But it's been over a year now that I've had it.
And I've played through it a few times.
Now, give me some of the variety of the ways.
Forget the one with me, because we've been doing that together.
Now, with the other four, that's why I was thinking of four.
So in the other four, did you still play sort of medium difficulty?
Yes, I think so.
And what were the different approaches that you took in the game?
I didn't really take different approaches.
I just, uh, I thought, well, I haven't picked this option before, so I'll try that for dialogue.
Some of the characters, but you just chose different choices, right?
Look, I started out with a lot of different characters.
I was barbarian.
The first time I played through, like, solo, I was a ranger.
So then I went for the next three, I think, or, yeah, three.
It was barbarian, sorcerer, And I think I was going to do Rogue, but it's basically really similar to Ranger.
I can't remember what the other one was.
Oh, it was Druid.
It was Druid.
However, my big problem was that every time I'd get about halfway through and be like, this sucks, and I'd go back to Ranger.
Hang on, but why did the other characters die?
Okay, because barbarians are boring.
It's just hit, hit, hit.
The sorcerers, well, I already have so many magic users in the party that it did not make sense to double up on a magic user.
Like, Gale's a wizard, Shadowheart's an NPC, or sorry, an NPC. Sorry.
Gale's a wizard, Shadowheart's a cleric, Carla...
No, Karlak's a barbarian.
Sorry.
Why do I not even remember his name?
The buff guy with the strength lower than Shadowheart.
Hal something.
He's a druid.
Basically a wizard.
There's that other...
Jahira is a wizard.
Or sorry, a druid.
And everyone in the party is a druid.
Will's a warlock, which is basically a fighter druid, sorcerer thing.
So every time I did something that wasn't A ranger or barbarian.
I was already doubling off on magic users.
Barbarians, as previously mentioned, are boring.
And I have to have Astarian in the party, so I can't really be a thief.
So I had to go with ranger.
Favorite NPC's rank is top four.
Top four?
Why is this tough?
Well, the first one is not tough.
I would say Asterion, yeah, number one.
The personality just outshines everyone else.
Tell me what you love most about Asterion.
The absolute morally gray aspect of everything he does.
He's not quite evil.
He's definitely not good.
Chaotic neutral?
Maybe a tiny bit evil.
Chaotic neutral, I'd say.
Right.
Yeah, honestly, just a really funny character.
I did get the sense that he might be a bit gay.
He's just British.
Oh!
Yeah, fair.
Hard to argue.
But, like, posh British, not like bawa.
Yeah, posh British with good teeth.
Yeah, debatable.
But, yeah, I found Asterion really funny.
I would say, this is like, everyone agrees on this, but, like, Karlak would probably be number two.
And what?
Because she's got more personality and she's not super standoffish.
You just have to do basically good actions.
But her quest is lame, bro.
I did not like her quest.
And having her meant you had to have Will in the party as well, kind of.
Because you didn't have to, but he would show up because their quests are like entwined.
And I did not really like Will.
I thought he was a very boring character.
I thought the quest stakes were too high.
Save the multiverse.
It's like, can we just save a town?
Or, like, no, it's got to be the giant...
In Baldur's Gate.
I mean, like, the character quests.
Yeah, sorry.
But, yeah.
And I like the Mind Flayer.
What?!
Yeah.
Oh, the guy shows up near the end.
He's with you the whole game.
I know it's not exactly a party member, although you can get him on your team at the end.
He's a dream guy, right?
The Emperor, yeah.
I thought he was a very interesting character, and I wish they went more in the backstory.
Maybe they did.
Maybe I missed it somehow, because there's a lot of choices you can start taking when you get into the actual city of Baldur's Gate.
Yeah.
But yeah, I thought that was a very interesting quest.
All right.
So I think that was four?
That was three.
Oh, three.
Sorry.
Those are the top three.
Top three.
Okay.
Very good.
Very good.
Yeah, I can't say barbarian.
I mean, because I keep looking at the screen and thinking the webcam's on and just pointed at me.
Ugh!
Got my protein!
I guess he must have been playing his carlack.
Oh gosh!
No, the mind flayer.
Yeah, right.
Alright, so that's good.
Is there anything else you wanted to mention about all this?
No.
Great game.
One of the greatest games I've ever played.
It was really good.
Yeah.
Question 1 out of 2.5.
Do you hide how cool you are around trashy people or do you not come by them often?
You know, here's the thing.
Trashy people think I am really uncool because I don't do like drugs and drink at the ripe old age of 15. So yeah, trashy people don't like me and they don't think I'm cool, so I don't really have to hide anything.
We've certainly met a few relative contemporaries without the most ideal healthy lifestyles.
Yeah.
Question 2 out of 2.5.
If you could press a button and make everyone around you as talkative as you were, would you press it?
No.
No, I wouldn't.
I think people need to be their own levels of talkative voices.
Question 2.5.
Even if people were awkwardly chatty, didn't make much sense?
Oh, you mean even if so, you pushed the button, you made them more chatty, but they were just awkwardly chatty?
No.
Oh, crap.
Sorry, I dropped the recorder.
No, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't press it either way.
Awkwardly chatty being British is, I mean, I would choose probably an amputation of a limb than a life full of awkward chat.
What do you think of the clothes young girls slash women 10 to 16 age range are wearing?
Examples like crop tops and miniskirts.
I personally find it kind of creepy slash not so savory.
When you did your month in school, what percentage of the girls...
All of them.
All of them.
With the exception of some of the weird kids, everyone wore booty shorts, crop tops, corset tops, skin tie leggings, and everyone.
It didn't matter if you had the figure for it or not, everyone wore it.
I would say I'm not really a huge fan.
I used to be really against it, but right now, honestly, I couldn't care less.
If you want to be that type of person, I'd rather you display it through your clothing than me wasting the chance to get to know you.
It's like a marker of people you might not want to get to know, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, the one thing I like about the modern world, it's like the blue-haired women with their nose rings, and it's like, you know, they're just being right up front.
This is a dangerous frog because it's brightly colored, and they're saving everyone a lot of time if they want to.
Like, if you want to take that hint, you can take it very easily and not waste time.
Like before, when crazy people were more cloaked in normality, you'd waste, as you point out, a lot of time trying to get to know people and finding out they're crazy later.
Yeah, true.
So that's what I mean.
Like, if you're going to dress like that, I find, like, you can tell so much about people by the way they dress.
And I will see people and I'll be like, well, I could be friends with you and I couldn't be friends with you based off of how they dress.
And honestly, I think that's helped to be pretty accurate with what I've judged and what I've actually noticed by maybe people becoming friends with them.
How do the theater kids dress as a whole?
Like, crap.
They're like, they'll, they have their own style, but it just looks like crap.
Like, they put effort into their outfits, but it's like, put effort into making them look good, not making them look quirky.
Theater kids really annoy me, I'm gonna be honest.
And I say this, I am, I am in a play, but Not just a play.
A musical, which is even worse.
But, no, I want to be, like, I enjoy acting, I enjoy singing and stuff like that, which is why I'm in it.
But, like, theater kids, they're so annoying.
Like, they think they're all that, and it's like, okay, you know what, you can act and you can sing, but you're weird, and no one except for theater kids wants to be your friend, so you're not all that.
Okay.
If you, sorry, if you were to design an education course, doesn't have to be school related, what topics would you cover and how would you structure it?
Hunting.
Yeah.
That would, that would, that would be.
Hunting would be, I would, I would do that.
Hunting would be very cool.
I think you need to have very practical education.
I would do manufacturing.
That was your favorite class in school.
Yeah, like how to build stuff, how to do stuff.
Like, clearly I'm very expertise.
How to build stuff, how to do stuff.
I'm clearly an expert on the topic.
How to build stuff.
That would be like a big one.
Okay, sorry.
I know this is big content related, but what kind of stuff?
Any stuff.
Just how to build stuff.
Does not matter.
I would definitely do like a hunting class.
I would do like a gun safety and weapon safety class and how to do like self-defense.
I feel like I would have...
I would do sports.
I've taken a few PE classes throughout my high school days or years.
They're all bad.
They don't teach you how to play the games.
They just like throw you into it and expect you to know.
Make your motivational poster!
No, not that.
I'm talking about the PE class, not the fitness class.
Oh, sorry.
But they just throw you into the games, and I ask, like, hey, I don't really know how to play this.
And they're like, they'll teach you.
No one does.
I'll ask, like, five kids, and they'll be like, yeah, so basically just, like, run up and kick it.
I'm like, well, then what do you do after that?
And they'll be like, well, run to first base.
And I'm like, okay, but what determines whether I run to first base?
And they're like, well, if the guy catches it.
I'm like, what guy?
Like, so it's annoying.
It is an IQ and empathy test to ask someone to explain something to you.
Oh, it's ridiculous.
Like, yeah.
So I would definitely take a sports class and like, here's some basic games.
Here's how to play them.
Let's play them.
That kind of thing.
And I would say those would be like the major ones.
If you're talking younger kids, definitely like up until high school, I would teach like English, math, history, whatever, science, like all that stuff.
Geography?
Maybe.
Yeah, I do some geography, but honestly, I've not learned anything useful in high school.
I think there've been some decent writing assignments that I enjoy, but if you don't enjoy writing, then there's no point to it.
And if you enjoy writing, you probably teach yourself.
Yeah, well, the only things that get taught in high school, from what I've seen, are, like, case-specific.
Like, I'm learning, I'm in Algebra 3 or something, I don't even know.
I don't remember the term of it, but I'm in grade 11 math, and, like, great, you know what?
It's boring, it's unenjoyable, because I don't like math, and I'm not going to take a career where I need to be doing math for a good chunk of it.
And even nowadays, if I have the math question, guess what's going to be around in 10 years to answer it?
AI. Photos and everything's sorted.
With Google, you can already take pictures of your work and it just solves it.
Right.
I mean, I wouldn't know that for any reason in particular.
I've heard of it.
Yeah, I've heard of it.
Yeah, I've heard of it.
So basically, high school is the higher education that is case-specific for what you want to end up doing when you're older.
It's not general knowledge.
I think you should only get general knowledge and then whatever you want to do with your life, you'll learn it for the fun of it.
Or not the fun of it, but for the usefulness of it.
If I end up opening a restaurant, I don't need to know how to dissect a frog.
Well, sorry, and I know these are your answers.
I'll be real brief about it.
Yeah, go for it.
So when I was in my mid-teens, I was friends with a group of very smart and talented guys.
Every single one of us knew exactly what we wanted to do after high school, and yet you're not allowed to specialize.
I knew I wasn't going to do anything with math.
I knew I was going to do stuff with creativity, English, writing, computers, philosophy, and that's all I ended up doing.
I knew exactly what I wanted to do.
Every single one of my friends was like, I want to be an English professor.
What did he become?
I want to be an economics guy.
He became an economics guy.
Every single person Knew exactly what they wanted to do and they weren't allowed to specialize.
Don't be crazy.
Genuinely, I think from grade four onwards, I knew 100% I am never going to have anything to do with math in my life.
The only thing I can think of that I may have to do with math would be graphs and statistics for the cafe.
But even then, that's the kind of math that you do not need.
Four years of algebra to do.
No, you do not.
I can understand statistics at the age of eight.
Okay?
Like, it's not...
That's what I mean.
It's just...
It's higher education for whatever you want to do, case-specific, to your work.
What else?
What's the other question?
Okay.
How would you feel when introducing, for the first time, your boyfriend to your dad?
What would be your dad's reaction?
I mean, it's already kind of happened.
We won't get into details, but I thought it was fine.
It was fine, yeah.
I mean, it was not serious.
The relationship is no longer active.
No, and so we won't get into details, but we had a fairly lengthy drive with me and the guy and you.
We weren't in a relationship at that point, but it looked like it was going that way.
I mean, it was more than just platonic, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you don't go on a date.
Yeah, I mean, I thought it was fine.
I enjoyed chatting with him.
And obviously, he was a pretty nice guy when we were chatting.
Obviously, a very smart guy, lots of potential.
So that's kind of in the rear view.
And I hope you thought I was fine with him.
Yeah, you guys, you and Mark are definitely good.
Yeah, so it's happened.
And I'm obviously, anybody who likes Izzy has a big plus next to their name in my mind, right?
So it was a nice, nice chat.
Yeah, he was definitely a nice guy.
Yeah.
Just not for me.
Yeah.
And I see no more questions that we have not answered.
Oh, there's more questions.
What?
The literally not that serious?
That's the only one we can do.
Name a few things that you think are literally not that serious.
Answering this question.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
That's a funny question.
Ooh, very meta.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
That was funny.
But that's a good question.
There's so many things and usually I just say it's literally not that serious.
Like, If my mom asked me five times to put on boots and I say, Mom, we're walking for three minutes on a sidewalk, I don't need boots, I will, instead of saying that like I may have used to, say, Mom, it's literally not that serious.
So just by the by, so today we went to have A morning tea with our neighbors!
Yeah, we went to have a morning tea with our neighbors.
So they've been friends of ours for like, I don't know, 13 years, 14 years.
Really, really nice couple.
Yeah.
And I shouldn't because, you know, mom takes great care of us and I really, really do appreciate all of that.
Okay, but like...
But fact is, it's a two-minute walk.
Not even.
And mom comes out with the kind of coat that you would put around somebody who's going to go up Everest.
Yeah, I was going to say exactly the same thing.
Like, I can't fit through the door.
It's like that kid from the Christmas story.
Yeah, yeah.
She's, like, telling me, like, put on boots.
It's like, it's not, there's like not even an inch of snow.
I don't need boots.
I'm already wearing socks and track pants.
Going to the neighbor's house.
That's when I said, mom, it's not that serious.
Come outside.
It's not that serious.
She wanted to drive over.
They're literally next door neighbors.
They're not like neighbors as in on the same street.
They are next to us.
She's like, let's drive.
No, let's not drive.
It's not that serious.
We're going to be cold for like a minute.
It's not that serious.
That's something that's not that serious.
Do you think people at work take things too seriously sometimes?
That one coworker.
Yes.
Miss, ma'am, I know how to work.
I'm sorry.
I know how to mop.
It's not that serious.
You do not have to explain to me in great depth how to mop.
I can't even understand what you're saying because your accent is so thick because you've not bothered to take proper English lessons.
So it's not that serious.
I know how to mop.
I'm 15. I'm almost 16. I've mopped quite a lot in my life.
I know how to mop.
It's not that serious.
Or like when she's like, Here is exactly how you pour the milk to get this perfect shape.
It's like, it's not that serious.
I can do a heart, and the boss said that's latte art enough.
Right.
It's not that serious.
She messes it up just as much as I do, so it's like, okay.
Anyways.
We have a bicyclist who's trapping us on the road.
Why are you bicycling?
It's cold out.
That is that serious.
We found a counter example.
Yeah.
Like those people who put up like 400 Christmas decorations.
Like, guys, it's not that serious.
Well, when you were in school, were there things that other kids thought were very serious or important?
No.
No one cared.
No, no.
I mean, I don't know.
Someone gets a pimple and you're like, oh my god.
Oh, no.
No one cared.
No one cared?
Literally, my generation, everything is not that serious.
If you're stressing about something, if you're overthinking something, and you vent to someone, they'll say, girl, it's not that serious.
It's not that deep.
You're fine.
It's not that deep.
It's just a guy.
It doesn't matter.
It's not that deep.
It's just a boy.
Boy problems.
But then of course they get to like, nothing is that deep and it gets a little bit too nihilistic.
Yeah.
Or it's not nihilistic, but a little too carefree.
And then you end up making stupid decisions because you're like, well, it's not that serious.
I can just try this drink.
It's not that serious.
It's like, yeah.
There's a handful of pills at a party.
But it's literally not that serious.
They're just some pills.
Like that's what...
Yeah.
So it can get too far, right?
It gets too far sometimes.
Like messing up a food order or something at work, yes, it is that serious.
That's like $10 worth of food wasted, right?
But when it's like, do you get the heart in the center of the cup or a little to the left?
It's not that serious.
The coffee's a coffee.
Okay, but we are technically talking about coffee.
Okay, it has 20 grams of condensed milk.
It has one pump of white chocolate, a shot of espresso, and steamed milk.
It's going to come out the exact same every single time.
Whether the heart is in the center or to the left, it does not matter.
Do you ever have this with that, maybe with that worker with someone else?
What used to drive me nuts sometimes is people would say, do you know how to do this?
And you'd say, I'd say, yes.
Yeah.
And then they'd show you how to do it.
And it's like, do you not notice that I just said yes?
Or they'll say, do you know how to make this?
Yes, I know how to make this.
I've made it five times.
I'm like, how?
And I'm like, oh, okay.
So I explain it.
I'm like, no, you have to put it in this order on the bread.
And I'm like, no, no.
Like, You asked me how, and I listed the ingredients that go in the sandwich.
Obviously, I'm not going to put the mayonnaise on top of the lettuce.
I'm going to put it on the bread.
Right.
And then she wastes both our time.
She has a bunch of drinks she's supposed to be making, but she's going to show me how to make the sandwich, too.
I know how to make the sandwich.
Which isn't even needed to be made in the moment.
No, like, the sandwich, I have to wait until her drinks are done anyway, so the sandwich should realistically be done when the drinks are done, because in this workplace, they have to come out at the same time.
There's a certain type of person, maybe it's this type of person, they want to feel smart by pretending everyone else is dumb.
And they can be some of the most sandpaper in the eyeballs, grating kind of characters.
Yeah, they really are.
Also, I want to say something.
So the last cafe I worked at was entirely women.
There was not a single man anywhere in the vicinity.
But this one has a decent amount of men.
Let me tell you guys, like, the difference between closing with women versus closing with the guys is crazy.
When I close with women, we get out of there 45 minutes.
And I'm not talking about difference between the cafes.
I'm talking about this cafe specifically.
If I close on Monday with, like, two other women or one other woman, we're getting out half an hour to 45 minutes after close.
If I close with the men, five minutes after.
I still don't know what magic they're doing.
I don't either.
I genuinely don't get it.
I think maybe, like, trusting me, if they say, like...
Or if they ask me, do you know how to do this aspect of the closing?
Has someone shown you how to do inventory?
And I say yes.
They're like, great.
And they go off and do the rest of their thing.
So they assume you're being honest and competent.
Yeah.
And if I have a question, I come to them and I'll be like, I don't remember how to do it for this partner.
Do I need to check the ones in storage as well?
Yeah.
Right?
Then they'll be like, yeah, you do have to do it in storage.
And they'll be like, no, you don't.
They don't wander off from whatever they're doing and follow me back and say, well, you have to do these ones and these ones.
They'll just say, no, do it in storage.
And I'm like, okay, go to storage and do it.
So it's a lot more efficient with guys.
Interesting.
So it's like at the old cafe, you were working in an HR department that occasionally served coffee.
Yeah, no, I really was.
But even here, the difference between the men and the women's crazy.
But yeah, I'll just say that.
There have been a few studies which do not exactly argue against what it is that you're talking about.
Men tend to be a bit more micromanaging and men tend to be a little bit more, yeah, we'll trust you to do it.
I'm starting to understand the pay gap.
And I'm starting to kind of agree with it, bro.
No, because, like, literally, when you have the guys closing, you're not wasting a full hour of pay or three-quarters of an hour of pay on clothes or after clothes.
And if you're clocked in for seven hours, you don't end up staying half an hour later and having to pay them an extra ten bucks.
Right?
So I'm starting to understand why women are paid a little less.
Well, I can't officially talk about any of that on the show.
But I'll show you some diagrams later.
Valid, valid.
That's all I have.
I have a question?
For real this time.
Thank you, everyone.
Oh, let's tell them what we're doing, because this might be a twofer.
Oh, yeah, we are.
It's a twofer day.
We are going to go.
We're actually driving right now to watch the movie Gladiator 2, which I have already seen, actually.
But we are...
I saw it with my mom, but we are re-watching it.
And I've made you promise to replicate...
Well, no, this was me, actually.
My idea.
You're going to replicate what you said to mom, right?
Yeah, so basically, if we get to a certain point in the movie, I'm going to be like, oh, I think that guy is that guy or whatever, right?
But I'm not going to say it because I already know.
I'm going to say it because that's what I said to mom when I watched it the first time because it'll be like watching it again the first time.
And we will do a review.
Yes, sir.
Which will be great.
I'm looking forward to it.
So thanks, everyone, for these great questions.
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