Dec. 19, 2023 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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Hello, good evening. Welcome to Friday Night Live.
Thank you for joining me late. Hit me with a Y if you've ever seen the movie called Blade Runner.
Have you ever seen Blade Runner?
You ever seen? You ever seen Blade Runner?
I mean, I remember when it came out, everybody in the Atari community was excited because there was an Atari ad.
And I think they remastered it.
When was the film made? In the 80s or something but they remastered it in 2007, added in some special effects.
Um...
Um, it's been a while.
Okay, like, I'm sure this is like, this is about as complicated as why didn't they just fly the hobbits to Mordor using the eagles?
Well, of course, they couldn't because of the Nazgul.
But, um, it's a good movie.
It definitely is.
I mean, Ridley Scott is known for his pauses.
The man is known for his pauses.
He's like, I need you all to stop talking for 10 to 12 minutes because I've got cool lights coming through shutters into fog.
He is just...
Well, it's the lensgasm that I talked about with regards to Napoleon.
Interesting, clever film.
Certainly, Los Angeles doesn't quite look like that in 2019.
That's when the movie was supposed to take place.
But... One thing, maybe you can help me out with this.
I'm sorry if you've seen it.
It's a spoiler or two. I can figure it's okay with a 40-year-old movie.
But can you help me understand this?
So, Deckard, like Harrison Ford plays this guy, basically the premise of the story is that there are these robots that are meant for manual labor and they're meant to be soldiers and so on.
But the robots...
Have escaped.
A couple of robots have escaped.
They've made it to San Francisco.
And this policeman has to go and kill them because they're super dangerous.
They're just massively dangerous, right?
Not sure I... There's a plot hole that I saw.
I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
And feel free to elucidate and educate me in my cultural lackness.
But... So these robots only live for four years, and they're just about to die.
Like, they're like two days from dying.
And that happens in the movie.
I've seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I've seen sea beams glittering near the Tannhauser Gate.
All these memories will be lost like tears in time to die.
Right, so there's four robots and then Sean Young, who I think later ended up stalking James Woods, if I remember rightly, but...
So why do they need to kill these robots if these robots are about to die?
I don't understand it.
No, I get they get programmed genetic death.
Yeah, I understand all of that.
But if the robots are two days from dying...
I started watching Blade Runner 2049.
I was free on some service or whatever, and I just couldn't get into it.
But why are you bothering to try and risk people's lives to go and kill these robots when the robots are about to die anyway?
They come back to have the program changed.
Yeah, but the program can't be changed.
I mean, that's very clearly explained by the geneticist, right?
The guy with his pair of glasses appear to be two Finding Nemo fish tanks.
So, why do they...
I don't understand it. I don't understand it.
2049, yeah, Blade Runner 2049, I just couldn't get into.
That Harrison Ford man, that guy just goes through that whole movie like he's just got Nietzsche's bag of soullessness hanging from his gonads, twisting and swinging in the rainy, vaguely Asian, well-lit, 2019 dystopia called Los Angeles.
Because they are killing people.
Nope. No, they're not killing people until the people try to catch them, right?
Who are they killing? Did you watch A Quiet Place?
I did. I did watch A Quiet Place.
But they're not killing anyone.
I mean, one of the women is doing a horrible routine where I think she puts a snake in her vagina.
I mean, that may kill good taste in art, but it's not killing anyone.
The girl doesn't kill anyone.
The guy doesn't kill anyone.
The only person they try to kill are the people trying to catch them.
So it just seems a bit odd to me.
Maybe the corporation knows they will die but the police don't?
No, I would assume that part of the sales of the thing is they say these people will only last for four years, right?
I mean, if you lease a car, I'm sorry, I don't mean to get overly technical, but if you lease a car, they say the car is leased for four years.
And if you buy one of these robots, they say these robots are really going to live for four years.
And they know exactly when the robots were made, exactly when they were produced.
So they know that they're within literally a day.
I don't even think one night goes through.
I don't know. The whole damn thing's nice.
There's no daylight in the whole movie.
But yeah, it just seems odd to me that they're expending heaven and earth and Harrison Ford is
willing to get his fingers twisted into origami and his teeth punched out the back of his head and
Bang a toaster called Sean Young. I don't know why They have to do all of this when they're just about to die
It just seems they killed the programmer Yeah, of course. Well, that was vengeance on the people who programmed them to die.
They killed the eye maker.
Yeah. So all the people who had created them in order to die, of course.
I mean, if you knew someone had poisoned you and you had 12 hours to live, wouldn't you kill, if you could, wouldn't you kill the guy who poisoned you?
I mean, that makes sense to me.
So, again, I'm sort of happy to...
I'm sort of happy to...
But even if they're killing people, which they only seem to be killing those who had marked them for death, but even if they're killing people, they only have 24 hours to live.
Alright. I don't watch manga or anime.
I find it too weird.
Yeah, I can't do that shit, man.
It's like listening to Sam Harris talk about serial killer murder babies in the basement kind of thing.
Yeah, it's strange.
Again, I'm happy to have it explained, and maybe it's something obvious, but I kind of could have dealt with that in the movie.
Like Harrison Ford is going through this whole fight scene with Rutger Hauer from Ladyhawk.
He's going through this whole incredible death-defying fight scene with a guy who's just about to die.
He's like 15 minutes from dying.
They killed many soldiers on Mars?
Don't care. See, here's the thing.
If it's a movie, if it's not on screen, I don't care.
How am I supposed to hate these robots?
They're just acting in self-defense.
They were programmed to die and they're pissed off about it.
I can understand that. I mean, there's a lot of cheesy Christianity in the movie, right?
Watch it again? No.
No. Watch it again is not an argument.
You have to have an argument, not just repeat it.
I mean, there's a lot of cheesy religion, right?
Rutger Hauer, the robot, goes to meet the guy who made him and then confesses his sins and then puts his eyes out.
Science kills God, yes.
Robots kill religion and mechanics kill spirituality.
I get all of that. And then Rutger Hauer, it's very subtle.
It's very subtle. Do you know how you know that...
Do you know that Rutger Hauer is a Christ figure?
It's really, really tough. It's really tough.
Well... He pushes a nail through his hand, crucifixion style.
It's really subtle. You've got a blink and you miss it, right?
And also he carries a white dove that is released when he dies.
Because the doves, of course, are all over the Bible.
What brings the manna from heaven that tells them to blow this gig when it comes to Noah and his ark and that Jesus is a dove and all of that.
Then read the book.
Look, if you know the movie and you don't have the answer, they're not all murderous.
They're not murderous.
They're not murderous. I don't care how many people they killed, they're not murderous.
Because they're not human.
Right? They're not murderous.
Because whoever broke them, whoever made them, made a faulty design, right?
Yeah, it's a symbol of the Holy Spirit.
No, I get all of that for sure.
Yes, it's... Pushing a nail through his hand and being angry at his father for his own death, right?
I mean, Jesus didn't want to die.
Anyway, it's very subtle.
Very subtle. Also, I'm not sure how Daryl Hannah's character, young, incredibly lithe and gymnastic spaghetti-legs Daryl Hannah, who I guess was warming up for her role with Tom Hanks in Splash by being perpetually underwater in this endless rain that goes through ceilings, how is it that they design a prostitution model with death-defying, natty, common-inchy Ninja death cramp moves.
I don't know. Philip K. Dick just had one hell of a mother.
I mean, because at the very beginning, the guy says, let me tell you about my mother, and then he shoots someone.
Oh, my God. That's pretty wild.
Robots cannot kill humans.
Oh, they can kill them, but they can't murder them.
Right? They can't murder them because murder is a moral judgment.
Right? Right? I mean, a dog can kill a human.
A shark can kill a human. We don't call the shark a murderer, right?
Have you seen Elon Musk's Tesla robot costing $20,000?
Any interest in buying one?
I have no interest in buying a robot.
Thanks. No, if I want to interact with robots, I just go onto social media and wrangle the NPCs.
Robots cannot kill humans.
Sure they can. Every day I see safety fencing around robots so the people don't get in the way because the robots will kill them if the humans are in the way.
I don't know about that. Uh, I mean, they aren't supposed to.
No. Okay, do you all know Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics?
I mean, in the movie, there's a nod to Ray Bradbury, right?
The building is called the Bradbury, right?
So, auto-assembly robots can kill humans pretty good.
Yeah. But not murderous.
They're not murderous. Would you consider going to the movie theater once more this year to bring us a review of Godzilla Minus One?
Really? This iteration of the story happens right after World War II in an already destroyed Japan where people broken by the war have to gather themselves to face the monster.
I saw the trailer. I'm just waiting for an opportunity to watch it.
Brain, the science of a planet, and you want me to play bowling ball nine pins with Godzilla minus one?
I don't know. I don't know.
The movies don't make me have as much existential despair for the sake of humanity.
The movies don't give me as much existential despair as the trailers do.
The trailers are even worse.
Because the trailers are like...
So if they escape, if the killer escape, they must be hunted down and killed.
I get that. Oh, Polaris, do you not think that I understand the premise of the movie?
You know, I've written my own novels.
I... I understand that they have to hunt down and kill.
The robots, that's the whole premise of the movie.
What I'm saying is, if the robots are within 24 hours of dying, why do you risk more human life killing the robots?
Like, Harrison Ford is literally shooting at the snake woman in a crowded mall, a crowded street.
They're risking far more death.
If the robots are eight hours from dying anyway, why would you risk massive amounts more death?
And also, what billionaire doesn't have security?
But anyway, Yes, I don't think you understand.
Okay, I'm done with that part of the conversation.
Just telling me I don't understand without giving me an answer.
Oh, that's funny. All right.
Comments, questions, issues.
What is on your mind that I can help with tonight?
I have...
Can I make a somewhat surprising recommendation?
Would you mind if I made a somewhat surprising recommendation?
Please respect me in the morning.
I'll put my tights back on.
So they can kill as many as they want, but they don't want to kill people.
They don't want to kill people.
They only act in self-defense or as vengeance against those who program them to die.
Have you seen the movie Inglourious Basterds?
Yeah, and it's really, I would love to see people pissed off at communists rather than Nazis who were long in the past.
Alright, um...
Would you mind terribly if I were to ask you, instead of donating to me tonight, could you
go and buy a premium account on Twitter?
I mean, Walmart just pulled out their advertising and they haven't done you the kind of harm
that they did me, at least in the past incarnation.
And, you know, to be fair, I mean, Elon Musk is fighting a pretty lonely battle against...
He is fighting a pretty heinous battle against the censorship.
So, you can tell me I'm wrong.
I may have completely lost my mind, but I just wanted to make that case.
I just wanted to make that case.
I don't think I can give the man any dollars in particular.
I mean, but if you all wanted to, and if you felt that the argument was reasonable, Then, don't donate here.
If you want to do both, obviously that's fine, but if you felt like donating to me tonight, do me a solid and buy a premium account on Twitter.
It really is the last vestige of free speech in the world.
It's not just the last vestige in America, because it's appalling what is happening to free speech around the world.
I was listening to The Truth About the French Revolution and you said something that stuck with me.
People who blame bad circumstances for their immorality will try and impose bad circumstances on others to prove their point.
Can you expand a bit? More on that.
Is that the nature of the Joker?
The nature of the Joker is a man who has pierced through the veil of delusion in society without
philosophy and therefore becomes purely nihilistic.
I think Elon has inspiring confidence to stand up.
It's lonely because he's the only one doing it.
He's the only one doing it.
I mean, there was a study that came out that people become much more anti-Semitic after exposure to TikTok, and yet nobody's cancelling ads there.
Have you looked into Nostra?
It's a decentralized social media protocol.
The data lives on nodes, but not on central servers.
I mean I've tried a variety of other social media accounts but obviously
nothing quite has the reach of the main ones right?
Okay I've got your question about looking for a woman as a partner.
I've got that as well.
Do you care, does anybody care particularly about the Joker?
I mean of course I know that there's six million different views of him but there's a lot of commonality in him.
uh... one a i also have some really wild math
about low birth rates which will let literally blow your mind
yet and joker okay we can we can do the joke we can do the joke
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when so the joker is someone who is recognized that that a
uniform as a costume
you That the uniform is a costume.
Now once you get that, right?
You understand how incredibly profound that is.
Like a uniform is a costume.
And he's looked at that.
He's got this Great speech in The Dark Knight where he says, you know, like a bus explodes in Iran and everyone is fine with it, but a bus explodes in New York and people freak out because that's not part of the mental model.
That's not part of the plan. I'm talking, I mean, the Joaquin Phoenix Joker, not particularly interesting because it doesn't really talk about childhood much.
I mean, I know he's got his mom and all of that, but it's an incel fantasy.
But the Joker has recognized that there are these rituals that keep madness at bay.
Okay, why should you obey a guy in a costume, right?
Because that's the story, that's the narrative, right?
That's the mythology.
And the mythology becomes very real.
So he is no longer believing in the mythologies of society.
And I think we're, I mean, I think we're kind of in that realm, aren't we?
It's hard to believe in the mythologies of society.
I will bow to everyone with good reason and evidence, but it's a little tough.
Thank you, David. I appreciate that.
It's a little tough to really get all of this stuff, you know, like the media and the intellectuals and all of these people.
So the Joker has recognized that people are living deep in the matrix, deep in Plato's
cave where shadows are real, imagination is physics and obedience is virtue.
It was a bus of soldiers, nobody freaks out, versus one little mayor will die, everyone
loses their minds. Yeah. Um.
We all see this all the time in movies, right?
All the time. All the time.
I mean, Blackhawk down there are like a zillion Somalis who are gunned from the rooftops but
one American soldier gets shot and everybody loses their minds, right?
I mean, no...
I'm not trying to sort of toot my own horn here, but when I was a kid, my brother and I, we would go Saturday mornings in England.
It was ten pennies to see two hours of cartoons and short movies.
And, of course, I remember...
One of the movies, probably more than one, but the one that I remember was an old black and white movie about, you know, the ragtag bunch of misfits on one side of a soccer team and they just can't get it together and then some washed up coach comes along and finally gives them a great speech.
They get cohesiveness and they win and everybody's happy and the other team is sad and your team is good and their team is bad.
It's like, just, it's two different fucking sides of the football field, guys.
Like, it's two different sides of the soccer field.
You're cheering for cotton.
You're cheering for dye.
You're cheering for shades of color.
Ooh, blue team good, red team bad, right?
And of course, you can't not think of these things, I think, if you're curious as a kid and skeptical, which is, okay, so the blue team, boy, you're really rooting for the blue team, aren't you?
Boy, that blue team, they'd better win because the blue team is good, but that red team, oh man, that's really, really bad.
You've got to... Yeah, oh, that red team is terrible.
And it's like, okay, so boring, right?
So what happens is, instead of the parting to the left becomes the parting of the right, you say, okay, well, instead of doing the blue team, let's just put the camera on the red team.
And they'll, oh, the red team is really, really good.
And the blue team is really bad.
And the red team is going to be so happy if they win.
And it's good that the blue team is bad because they're bad.
You know, it's just like, oh, so boring.
It's so boring. It's so boring.
Or like, that kid when I was, I don't know, five years old, the kid who was like, Crystal Palace sucks!
Manchester United forever!
And I'm like, you're just born over there and I'm born over here.
My team is bad because why?
I happen to be born in the region supposedly serviced by Crystal Palace and you happen to be born in the region supposedly serviced by Manchester United so you're, yay, Manchester United and I'm supposed to, what, cheer some team?
That's just around...
I mean, it's just... I don't know.
I don't get this.
Tribe loyalty is good when real and local.
Tribes have been turned into giant swaths of land that no one can really fathom in their own lives.
I mean, any society that is successful, the leaders will just sell access to their resources.
That's what's going on in the world today, right?
So, He's seen beyond that.
He no longer believes in the eye-blinding, spine-softening rituals of demonic power.
And, uh, I assume, I assume that the Joker goes through some process of trying to educate people.
And, uh, hit me with a Y. Hit me with a Y. Yeah, sports ball.
It's a ball. The ball went in this hole, not that hole.
I'm happy. Oh, no.
The ball went in that hole, not this hole.
I'm so sad.
Oh, no. Ball in wrong hole.
Oh, God, no.
The ball... Went this way.
I'm... Yay.
Oh, no, but if the ball goes that way...
Oh, no. Oh, ball wrong way.
No bad ball. Ball in this goal goal.
Ball in this goal.
Oh, no. Bad ball goal.
You ever try to watch basketball?
You can't get that stomped mouse squeaking out of your ears for like three days straight.
And they gamble on it.
Well, they gamble on it because it's also boring, right?
My dad would scream at the TV during football games completely uncomfortable.
Well, it's like the healthy athletes that are stressing out the people sitting on the couch eating Cheetos and drinking beer, right?
So, yeah, it's completely bizarre.
I mean, I understand it's, you know, training for war and all that kind of blah, right?
But... As sports ball is...
If you want to play sports, I personally, I love playing sports.
I love me pickleball, tennis, squash, beach volleyball.
Love it. Love it.
Great. Watching people?
It's like, would you rather have sex or watch pornography?
Would you rather play sports or watch other people play sports?
It's just so weird. I don't want to play a video game.
I want to watch someone who's watching someone who's watching a live stream of someone playing a video game.
It's just sad. And all of that energy, like, you know, Bretton circuses, right?
Governments are not stupid, right?
They give you sports ball or they give people sports ball so that they don't get interested in real things, right?
Most of the people at my job play fantasy football.
When they talk about it, I feel my eyes glaze over.
Oh, man. Fantasy football.
That is too wild. Well, I'm not playing sports.
I'm not watching someone play sports directly.
I'm not watching someone play sports a thousand miles away.
I'm not watching someone who's watching someone play sports a thousand miles away.
I'm getting some graph paper and I'm imagining what might happen if people play sports in another dimension that doesn't exist.
Somebody says, I've been wanting to transition into sales, but I'm afraid of how much sports I'm going to have to know about to do lowbrow icebreakers.
See, that's the thing, right?
That's the thing. It's like, I don't believe too many people care about sports.
They just think it's it's all the Emperor's new class, right?
D&D for dumb people No, it's a long way from D&D. But if you're watching sports, you can't lose.
With porn, there isn't a risk of being rejected.
Well, you are being rejected with porn because you're not out there looking for a partner.
So you are already rejected.
But in sports, you absolutely lose.
You've got opportunity costs of all the things you could be doing while you're Watching your balls glazed over watching sports and also you're stressed, right?
Your adrenaline with no...
Like your body thinks it's a game that matters.
Older men are obsessed with sports.
Yeah, we won on Saturday.
Do people learn golf for golf's sake or for business networking?
I don't understand golf. I couldn't...
Golf is a good walk spoiler.
I can't fathom golf.
I can't comprehend golf.
I mean, I don't mind a little mini-golf with my daughter, although she's getting kind of old for that, but golf, I don't get it.
I mean, it seems to me just, okay, so you don't like your family.
You don't want to be home. You don't like your wife.
You're fighting with your wife, so you want to go and do something that takes five hours to be away from you.
I get it. Okay, so just, but, you know.
Be away from your wife. Why don't you just go to the gym?
Or something. Go to the gym and a movie.
Oh, because that's not... Yeah, golf I don't get.
Now, listen, I mean, I don't want to be a philistine and say, well, just because I don't get it doesn't make any sense.
I mean, obviously people love golf enough, although it's a bit of a dying sport now.
Golfers love the game. It's too expensive.
Yeah, I mean, so the problem I have with golf is it comes down to 18 hits.
Like, five hours.
It's more slow-moving than football, and football is, like, everything in ultra-slow motion.
It comes down to 18 hits.
The entire quality of your day comes to 18 hits.
And, of course, the number of people I know, because I was in sales and marketing for a long time, so the number of guys I know who are just, like, in a bad mood because they had a bad game of football, Now, I understand that sometimes, like, a bad game of golf, and I understand that, like, sometimes you can have a bad game, you just, you hit everything wrong on tennis or pickleball or whatever, okay, but, you know, with tennis and pickleball, you get, like, what, 500 hits over an hour or whatever, a couple of hundred hits over, so if you mess something up,
you can just, but, so it's hundreds of hits and, you know, but I can't do five hours with 18 hits.
I've never donated before, but Steph saying that about golf gets a donation from me.
Sorry, honey, can't be with you Saturday.
I'm hitting a ball with a stick all day.
My mom and her side of the family were all football obsessed.
I remember being five, not getting it, and not understanding why they liked it.
You get to wear your jersey to work.
I mean, I can tell you what sports really is.
I mean, there's all this stuff practiced for.
It's a practice for a war.
But you know what? I can tell you what sports really is.
it's like watching sports really is yeah so you can play golf for a couple hours like five
hours or whatever It's an hour to get there. And then you've got to have drinks and dinner with...
The boys! And they're so loud.
It's not just the clothing. One thing I really, really dislike about golf people as a whole, and there are tons of exceptions, is that their laugh is like listening to an Indian food-eating donkey getting paled by the horn of a unicorn.
Like, it's just... It's like, oh my god!
It's so harsh and braying and nothing's that funny and all of that.
You're only swinging for about a minute over the course of 18 holes, yeah.
I do enjoy golf.
My grandfather was a pro golfer.
Most of the time I spent with him was golf lessons, positive experience overall.
Yeah, that's great. Golf, yeah, it's a bit of a status symbol, a bit of a financial flex for sure.
I used to meet a bunch of people in a park once a week and we'd beat each other's senses with foam swords and shields and medieval garb.
Now that was a sport. Hey, I'm down with that.
You're doing something. You're getting some cardio.
The only cardio that golf players tend to get is the cardio that comes from tying their hands together behind their back so they don't actually break all of their golf clubs when they miss a putt!
Yeah, I don't know. You know, you have those people, they just laugh, and it's really annoying.
I love the sound of laughter. It's great, you know, but...
It's kind of skin-trolling to me, but golf?
Not so much golf. Let's just say sports as a whole.
So sports is a subsonic signal that you put out to find idiots, right?
I mean, idiots have to find each other.
And they don't obviously want to wear a big sign, I'm an idiot, because that's a Che Guevara t-shirt.
But idiots have to find each other.
Because idiots don't want to run into smart people, right?
Idiots don't want to run into smart people, because then they vaguely get the sense that they're idiots.
So they have to put out this subsonic tribal cry...
To find other idiots.
And one of the most common subsonic idiot radar cries is, Hey, did I catch the game yesterday?
Okay, good. So this is idiots out there calling together other idiots.
That's all. Surprised how much money is in golf.
Tiger Woods, $1 billion net worth.
Because he's good at hitting the ball in a hole.
That is true. That certainly is true.
As a philosopher, you absolutely love to watch a guy good at hitting a ball in the hole get a billion dollars.
Yeah, it's a dark whistle for low IQ. Yeah, I mean, that's sports in a nutshell.
I would always resist taking clients to sports games.
Always. I'm like, oh my god, let's go see a play, let's go see a comedy show, like something.
But no, I can't.
I can't, I can't, I can't even.
And of course, I remember I was about eight or nine years old and a friend of mine's father took us to a soccer game, football game, soccer.
And it was like two hours and nobody scored.
I've known golfers, it was an excuse to drink and pass the time.
Time murder, yeah. Yeah, Tiger was a bit of a man whore, wasn't he?
Can't believe he got away with driving like that, but I guess I can, right?
People get paid way too much for sports.
No. There's no such thing as getting paid way too much.
I mean, I guess there's government subsidies for the stadiums and all of that.
There's no such thing as getting paid too much.
You know enough.
You don't need to say something ignorant like that about economics, right?
I'm thrilled.
I'm thrilled that sports people get paid so much.
I mean, I get that it's annoying, but I can be both annoyed and thrilled at the same time.
But no, I think it's absolutely wonderful that sports people and the Kardashians and other piles of vertical idiotic protoplasm get paid so much.
No, it's wonderful. It's wonderful.
Because those of us struggling to bring truth, reason, evidence, and virtue to mankind, well, we don't get paid Kardashian-level wages.
I appreciate your tips, of course, right?
But... It means that, you know, do you know what a glorious thing it is to not have to care about the masses?
Like, do you know what a heavy burden of responsibility is to have to care about the masses?
Like, it's horrible. I'm not, I'm straight up.
I'm not mocking. I'm not, I'm straight up.
I'll even take my glasses off if I'm that serious.
Yeah, caring about the masses is a hell of a burden.
It's a hell of a burden to think that you have to work hard to try and save people from themselves or their own stupidity or propaganda or, you know, but if they're like, You know, there's this guy spitting straight philosophical fire on the internet, but hear me out.
This is what I think is important for civilization.
I think I'm going to send money to Gwyneth Paltrow because, okay, that guy has morals, ethics, virtue, and integrity, love, and happiness, but, but, just follow me on this.
Keep up if you can. Gwyneth Paltrow has a candle that smells like her vagina.
To me, like literally, it's a no-brainer.
Vagina candle, truth, reason, virtue, and evidence, and facts, and love, future of our civilization, or hoo-hoo wax.
Hmm. I think we've got to go with hoo-hoo wax, don't we?
I mean, this guy illuminates the path of virtue, but this woman has a candle wick in her vagina.
She lights the way to the V-bond.
Vagina candle is like 120 bucks.
Plus penicillin.
It would be nice to be able to take my kids somewhere and not have to worry about borderline pornographic billboards, advertisements, commercials, etc.
in the public square. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, that's why some...
What's it? Two years ago or three years ago I did that.
April Fool's selling my bathwater.
I saw on Twitter today some OnlyFans...
Some OnlyFans model, hey, just met my biggest donor, and he was some crypto bro who'd given her $64,000.
I would buy a candle that smells like Steph's philosophy.
They say Philosopher's Stone, it's actually Philosopher's Stones, because you need two very big ones to take on the magic monstrosities of the public square.
Yeah, and isn't Amaranth now?
Oh, she's selling a beer made with her vaginal yeast.
It's a big burden. Off me.
It's a huge load off my mind.
It really is. Mind blown at vagina candle.
Yeah. Yeah.
There's twerking and then there's wicking, I guess.
A senator just caught giving an OnlyFan girl like 200k.
Didn't he spend 400,000 of donor money on an OnlyFans?
OnlyFans? The issue is who's buying, not who's selling.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
Where's the FDA? Hello!
Have you heard of the last couple of years?
No, supply and demand.
Masturbation addicts are half-murdering the economy.
Oh yeah, so speaking of which, let's get to your questions.
Alright. People who blame bad circumstances for their immorality will try to impose bad circumstances on others to prove their point.
Well, sure. Right.
So... If people say, well, I had to cheat because she was so hot, they're generally happy if another guy in the circle cheats with a woman because she was so hot.
Because then they feel like, well, it wasn't a bad mistake.
Everyone will do it. I don't have free will and all that kind of stuff, right?
So, yeah, people will try to impose bad circumstances on others to prove their point.
And we all know this.
So the alcoholic will urge other people to drink, right?
The alcoholic will try to create more alcoholics.
Yeah. The world is increasingly degenerate.
Yes. I mean, it's a funny thing that people are better when things are scarce.
Birth rates are up when things are scarce.
People are more moral. They're more neighborly.
They care more about each other when things are scarce.
When human beings have plenty, with the state in particular, we tend to completely fall apart.
Like excess breeds rank corruption and decadence.
And this is a...
Hit me with an N if you haven't read my novel, The Future.
Hit me with an N if you haven't read my novel, The Future.
Because if you haven't read that, my gosh, what have you been doing with your time?
I just can't understand it.
It's so good. Yeah, all cheaters pressure everyone to cheat.
All addicts say that it's everyone.
You know, like if you say to a weed addict that weed addiction is bad, I mean, what do they do?
Just get this endless gaslighting bullshit, hemp and nature lectures about for everything, right?
What do you think about men who are faithful to their wives for decades and then suddenly decide to cheat with a younger woman?
I know exactly what that is.
Yeah, no, I end partly and have just started it.
Yes, Jared, thank you.
Appreciate it. You should. I mean, honestly, it's free.
It's a great audiobook. Personally, I don't think I get enough kudos for my acting, but anyway, whatever, whatever.
That's more for the future to judge.
I get it. So, yeah, so men who are faithful to their wives for decades suddenly decide to cheat with a younger woman?
You know what that's all about, right?
Of course, that's the second wind that the man wants to create another family.
But, no, you're making my way through the history of philosophers.
Oh, fine! No, his wife has stopped having sex with him.
Right? I mean, if a woman who's been taken care of A man financially, for decades, goes out and gets a job, what do we know?
We know the man's not giving her money.
Maybe he's broke, maybe whatever, right?
The man stopped giving her money, so she has to go and get a job.
She's not getting her resources, her value from within the relationship.
The man's not giving her money, so she has to go out and get money from another man, right?
So if there's no if the woman's not giving the man sex in the relationship, he's gonna go and have sex outside the
relationship I mean am I am I wrong
Or, I mean, it could be that the woman has just let herself go, right?
She's become fat, unhealthy, wheezy, lazy.
Like, you know that erectile dysfunction rises with the woman's waistline, right?
You guys are aware of the studies that men have erectile, more and more erectile dysfunction as the woman gets more and more overweight.
And I suppose after a while, a man doesn't like writing the demurrection and thinking of someone else, so he goes and gets it.
That's the old proverb, put a man in the doghouse and he will find the cat house.
That's good. Your audiobooks are awesome.
I finished Just Poor and The God of Atheists recently.
Love them both. Thank you. I appreciate that.
It's funny, you know, when I was rereading, sorry, when I was reading as an audiobook Just Poor, I couldn't find a chapter, so I rewrote it completely.
And then I ended up finding it anyway, so.
Alright. Hey Steph, I'm currently looking for a woman as a partner.
Do you have any advice around whether or not they are vaccinated?
All the data I have seen on vaccinated people as a whole doesn't look good.
I'd prefer if they weren't, but I can only seem to find vaccinated women.
Thanks. Well, I obviously can't give you any medical advice.
Let me ask you guys. Would you...
Yeah, porn is also a huge driver of erectile dysfunction.
Yes, that's right. Now, let me ask you this.
Would you, if you're a man or woman here, or something else, would you try, would you marry, would you be willing to marry and try and start a family with somebody who was vaccinated?
Interesting, on average, married women gain 24 pounds in the first five years of marriage, so the erectile dysfunction thing might be a reason for sexless marriages.
Well, women can't feel sexy if they're fat, for the most part, right?
I mean, there are exceptions, but women and men can't either, right?
So you can't feel sexy if you're fat.
So the woman doesn't feel sexy, and the man has erectile dysfunction.
The man turns to pornography, which gives him more erectile dysfunction.
The woman feels unloved and unwanted, and therefore she eats, and it just goes worse from there, right?
All right. I've got whole Jeffrey Epstein shows back in the day.
You can look them up. Ah.
Men cheat because they feel it's their right as men.
Duh. It's worldwide.
Men cheat on wives who have sex with them.
Doesn't matter. Men cheat because they feel it's their right as men.
Duh. I gotta tell you, it's really fucking obnoxious to do duh, which is pretty much the smartest audience in the world.
You can do it. I mean, it's free speech here if you want to do it, but I hear duh and All men are trash.
I'm like, I have no interest in what you have to say.
I have no interest in what you have to say.
It's just rude. It's just rude.
I mean, I don't mind a duh if somebody's duhing, but not when you're just like, obviously.
It's like, tons of men don't cheat.
People are still getting the COVID vax, but not many.
So would you date?
Yes. No.
Yes. Hell no. Yes.
No thanks. No. It would be an indication that they don't do their research and blindly follow.
Never. Not if I have a choice.
No. No to interest in vaccinated dating.
Well, if they reform and have learned from the stakes, then maybe yes.
No, can't risk my family on that.
I'm in this situation. It's a red flag.
Triple vax. She's pro-vax choice, but said she wanted to travel.
Right. Will Polaris attempt to remake his case by repeating what he just said here, probably.
Let's see here. Well, I didn't want to get it, but I did so I could participate in social gatherings during the pandemic.
So I suppose I wouldn't blame someone for not wanting to marry me due to my multiple-dosed body.
I mean, yeah, I won't get into details here because you can do your own research, but the excess death stuff is horrendous.
Just horrendous. Ah, let's see here.
She'd put mob mentality of her own hell.
Facts was required here.
What do you mean required? Like, they forced you?
What do you mean? I'm not sure what you mean by forced.
Oh, Chris, sorry, I'm not trying to be snarky.
I'm genuinely curious what you mean by required.
What? Making a decision you're iffy about because you want to travel is alarming.
Yeah. I briefly dated a woman, says John, who was vaxxed.
She volunteered it in the first round of studies.
Oh, she volunteered in the first round of studies.
Wow. Wow.
Felt better about that than a person who did what they were told.
Oh, I don't know about that.
Uhhhhhh...
Traveling all the time for fun is a bit red flag.
Sure, everybody knows how young women travel.
Let's be fank. Everybody knows how young women travel and what they do to travel as a whole.
Everybody knows. Not complicated.
Um...
I mean, the STDs aren't just going to find you at all.
I mean the STDs aren't just going to find you at all.
You've got to go to Bali, man.
Let's see here. Did he require?
So Chris said vax was required here pretty much.
I don't know what pretty much means.
In Vancouver? I knew two people who got a vax to go to Hawaii.
I imagine putting beaches over your own body.
Uh, couldn't go into certain public places without the vaccine.
it was a gamble so far I'm okay.
They travel with plenty of franks.
That's right.
Fly me to the moon and let me sail among the stars.
Let me see what spring is like on Jupiter.
Oh, she got injections so she could travel and receive more injections.
That's right. I shouldn't laugh.
I shouldn't laugh. I was told it was legally required at minimum.
Very heavily pressured.
TV. Legally. I don't know what...
Legally required at minimum.
What does that mean, Chris? I don't know what this means.
Sounds to me like you're dodging and you're saying it was forced upon you.
I don't know any place where they forced the facts into people.
I mean, maybe there were places I didn't hear about.
But I don't know...
Any place where they came to your house, held you down and vaccinated you.
So, I don't know what you mean when you say the vax was forced or required.
It was required for something.
I'm definitely required for something.
But you had to make that... I mean, a good friend of mine quit his entire career over the Vax.
you You know, one day, one day, a long time in the future, I will tell you all the story of everything I did to not get vaccinated.
Not forced from me, just an ultimatum, and I took the vax.
What do you mean an ultimatum?
Do this or? I don't know.
If you want to keep a job, then it's forced.
Okay, so it's not forced.
I had to for the job.
Yeah, that's still not forced.
All right, let's see here.
No, and I sympathize with that.
I really do. But, look, come on, man.
From... If you didn't get vaxxed from 1 to 10, how much did you have to suffer and sacrifice to not be vaxxed?
From 1 to 10, how much did you have to suffer and sacrifice to remain unvaxxed?
If you need to pay bills and your job says you must, you are forced.
You are not. You are not forced.
No. If you chose to not save your money, God, is this totally gone?
Is this totally gone, this knowledge that you need to have six months of living expenses in the bank?
Is this, like, totally gone? Do people not believe this anymore?
Is this, like, does nobody think about this anymore?
Is it just like, yeah, you know, live paycheck to paycheck.
Doesn't matter. Don't save your money. So, if you don't have six, I mean, have six months worth of savings in the bank.
Is that gone? Is that totally gone?
Because people then just like spend everything they get and they're like, hey man, I needed a paycheck.
I didn't have a choice. It's like, no, you had a choice.
You had a choice to not, you chose not to save your money.
So then when something came along, like a vaccine mandate, you didn't have any wiggle room.
Six months is how I made it through COVID. They will force it now in Brazil for kids because a dictatorship took place.
Yes, absolutely, I get that.
And now, I don't know what the status is in Brazil.
I know that for a lot of places, you have to get these vaccines for your kids if you're going to send them to government school.
Still not forced. Still not forced.
So, yeah, a lot of you all suffered.
To dodge the vax, right?
Honestly, it sometimes felt like it was like trying to run through a rainstorm and not get hit with water.
The majority sadly live paycheck to paycheck.
Why is that sad?
It's pathetic. It's ridiculous.
I don't, I mean, if, if, not you, I'm sure you, what about younger people, Steph?
They don't have a chance to get savings yet.
Oh my God.
What are you talking about?
They're the second or third wealthiest generation in history.
Look, guys, I'm sorry.
I grew up so dirt poor, like literally half the time I came home, we had an eviction notice on our door.
I didn't have a car until I was like 34 years old.
I lived in houses with five other people, a house.
I was broke enough as an undergraduate student, I lived in the same room as another guy.
The same room, not just in the same apartment.
We lived in the same room.
He had one side of the room, I had the other side of the room.
I would cut coupons and save my money and like, oh my god.
The average annual household income in Vancouver is $50,000 and the average rent
on a one-bedroom apartment is $3,200.
Right. So get the fuck out of Vancouver.
Like I... Do you think I live downtown in a one-bedroom apartment?
No. When I got my first job, I was being paid $40,000 a year.
I don't know, that's probably about $80,000 now.
I was being paid $40,000 a year.
What was my rent?
Now, I get it.
Rent's gone up. I get it.
But what was my rent when I got my first professional job making the modern equivalent of $80,000 a year?
What was my rent? One of my grandmother's family had an outhouse for a toilet.
Yeah. When she was a kid.
Yeah. My wife and I shared one car.
Yeah. Lots of couples think they each need a nice brand new car.
We've made lots of financial mistakes, but we're getting better now.
What age were you when you had six months saved up?
I always had a cushion, even when I was a student.
No, I paid $275 a month for everything.
Everything, including internet.
I'd be $275 a month making $80,000 a year because I was living next to an abattoir in a house with five other people.
God! I don't...
I don't understand.
I just don't understand.
I don't understand.
You can live very cheap on very little money.
Even now. Double up, triple up.
I mean, I was with five other people.
Four gay guys and a lesbian woman.
We all lived together in one big happy family.
And so, I don't know.
But again, I grew up poor, so I was kind of used to it, right?
So, maybe for people who come from the middle class or upper middle class, and they've got to, I don't know, like, I've got to live alone and stuff like that, right?
When starting out, I had to make twice my rent per month to be able to pay bills and start to save.
Yeah. I mean, I would buy my clothes from Goodwill.
You know, there's nothing that says quality clothing like buying it by the pound.
I literally bought my clothes by the pound.
And this was into my, gosh...
When I ended up moving out from that woman I didn't end up marrying, I had another roommate, two men.
I lived in one little room in a condo, and then my company rented an apartment for the research and development team, and I worked out of there.
And that was one of the first places I had lived on my own.
I think that might have been the first place I lived on my own as an adult.
It was a small one-bedroom apartment and it was a thousand dollars a month, but it was in a prime location.
Working 11 hours a day to save money for my own car.
Yeah. I might move out of the city if I become a successful published author and decide to take my business online, but for now I need a dense city with nature close by.
I still live like a college student with roommates.
I own multiple rental houses and apartments.
I saved to invest, started literally at zero dollars.
Yeah. You just cut your expenses.
You go to movies on Tuesdays where it's cheap, wherever it is.
You get coupons.
And that's easy now because you can do it online.
You don't have...
If your cell phone works, you keep it.
My current cell phone is...
Four years old?
I think it's four years old. And I have no intention of replacing it.
None. None.
I will spend money on the show.
I have to get a new camera and lighting.
I will spend money on the show because I think that's important.
But... No, I will...
I don't have a gym membership.
I bought some gym equipment for the home.
Cutting expenses seems like an alien concept for any of the people I know.
Just don't eat fast food?
Yeah, I mean, some fast food...
When I was in university, there was a coupon.
You get two-for-one subs. You just get some giant meat-laden sub, and you cut it into four pieces, and you put them in the fridge, and you've got, like, four dinners.
And four dinners, so that was...
$5 for a sub, and you get two for one, and so that's $2.50 for each sub.
So that was $1.25 per meal.
$1.25 per dinner.
I don't know. Chick-fil-A is always good though.
I'm living very poorly right now.
It took me 30 years to save some money in my country and decided to move out.
I'm saving every penny and I used three shirts for three months.
I'm still buying my stuff from Salvation Army.
Can't complain though. I'm living in a better country right now.
I'm just glad to be here and away from my crazy doomed country.
Good for you for getting out. Good for you for getting out.
Yeah, and instead of going out for dinner with people, just have a potluck.
I get the Panda Express family meals, like three days worth of food.
Yeah, you get it delivered, I assume.
But yeah, I mean, my friends and I, we used to just all have potluck.
We'd all just bring a meal.
We'd just assign who, bring part of a meal, and then instead of us all going out for dinner and each paying 40 bucks for dinner, we would just spend 10 bucks on our pot, and instead of 40 bucks, it's 10 bucks.
What's the difference? I've been making vegetable and chicken pan roasts.
It's affordable and healthy.
Yeah, you get a slow cooker.
You just throw in your beef broth.
You throw in your meat. I mean, just, you can do, you get a lot of stuff, right?
I used to take full advantage of the free cafeteria at my job.
Oh man, I remember when I was a kid, so broke, going to the Science Center in Toronto.
Oh man, it was brutal.
I was hungry. I was hungry, right?
I was running around all day.
I was hungry, but I had no money for food.
And what did I eat?
You ever have to do this?
I remember it, like, honestly, like it was yesterday.
In fact, when I went back to the science center with my daughter a couple of times, I took her back to my old neighborhood, and I showed her in the cafeteria, and I said, listen, you know, I'm not trying to be a self-pity guy, but here's where I got my lunch.
And what I did was I would get crackers and ketchup.
At the cafeteria, right?
Crackers and ketchup. And you squeeze the ketchup packets into the bowl, you get a free bowl, and then you break the rice, sorry, break the crackers in, you add some water from the drinking fountain, and you've got like a tomato soup.
You know, just a reality.
So, yeah, crackers and ketchup, totally free lunch.
Totally free lunch. I think it's important to be stoic, but also life is meant to be lived.
I will spend on things that enhance my life and help further me in my pursuits.
I'd rather be enriched than rich.
Yeah. I'm sorry, like, I love you to death, man, but that's just...
Well, balance in all things is important, you know.
You don't want to... You don't want to spend too much, but...
Boy, you don't want to spend too little.
I mean, that's just... It's just a non-addition.
It's a bit of a pompous patting on the back.
Well... The Aristotelian mean is the way to go.
It's like, yeah, yeah, we all know that.
We all know you can't spend no money.
We all know that you can't spend all your money.
So you're not really adding much.
You're just trying to praise yourself for your supposed wisdom, which is blindly obvious to everyone else.
And I would go with friends to...
If they would go to the mall for lunch, there was a place called the Appian Way.
You could get a Coke for 25 cents and a slice of pizza for 75 cents.
And I would not have that money.
So what I would do is I would...
If I had a dime, you could go to the fish and chips place and you could get a bowl of batter for a dime.
And then you just add ketchup into that.
A little greasy. Went down a little slimy.
Probably came out the other way like a jet pack from the Fifth Element.
But... You know, got some calories into you.
Of course, you also hang around your friends' places and hopefully you get invited for dinner and all of that kind of stuff, right?
I still very clearly remember when a friend of mine had a McDonald's party where the food kept flowing.
And at the end of it, people were like, I guess everyone's full.
And I'm like, I could do a filet of fish again.
Because you would just try to eat as much as you could because, you know, feast of famine, feast of famine, right?
Wow, that's tough in my opinion.
I'm feeling quite privileged right now.
Oyster crackers and cottage cheese is a great quick snack.
Yes, that's true. That's true.
And, you know, pasta and tomato sauce, right?
I mean, you just get a big vat of pasta.
I also used to get these puff cereals in giant bags.
That with some milk fills you up pretty quickly.
So... I used to be more stoic.
I realized I was just being vainly stoic.
My life improved when I started giving myself more room to spend.
Well, yeah, I mean...
I mean, what are you going to do?
Slowly make sweet love to a number on a screen?
Who wants to be the richest guy in the graveyard?
I get you got to spend some money to enjoy your life.
I get all of that. But that's not what we're talking about.
Giant pot of mac and cheese.
Last me two days. Yeah.
Oh, you get, you know, instead of buying pop, you get a giant, or you get a, I didn't get this till I was older.
You get a soda maker, right?
Get a soda maker and you just add a splash of flavor into it.
If you like that flavor, right?
Bran flakes are really filling.
That's very true. And honestly, like, instead of getting razor bran, get some bran flakes to the generic and then just get a big vat of raisins and sprinkle them in.
Crush some Costco granola bars.
Oatmeal, eggs, peanut butter, bread, all borderline free.
Eh, I don't think so much anymore.
I cook and freeze good meals, spreadsheet everything.
A good meal, 200 grams, is 70 cents to $1.90.
Oh, you can be super cheap. And this is a friend of mine who would say, if you're hungry, if you want a snack, you just go to a convenience store and buy a banana for 50 cents.
Right? Just buy a banana.
The pasta here costs just one Australian dollar.
So cheap in the sauce, two dollars.
So affordable and so tasty.
I don't need anything else besides a chicken.
Making your own coffee will also save tons of money.
It's stupid. Yes.
Yes. My daughter does like going to a coffee shop and chatting, so we'll do that from time to time.
Everything is making...
Milk is some of the cheapest protein you can get per gram.
Oh, yeah. Thank heavens.
My wife is lactose intolerant, and I'm thrilled that I'm not.
That's kind of a Northern European thing.
You just have to... In order to survive, you have to be able to do lactose, right?
We have 30-60% discounts on most foods that are going to spoil on that day or the next day.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. The dented cans of tuna.
I remember there was some Minister of Finance or Welfare here in Canada who got an unbelievable doo-doo for simply suggesting to people when they were cutting welfare, you can just buy some dented tuna.
Oh, dented tuna. It's like, oh my God, you know how history, people in history, go back to the Black Death or some famine or plague and, oh, it's a dented tuna.
It's like, give me the dented tuna.
A jar of peanut butter and a banana.
Yeah, for sure. What's sad is I keep hearing the cost of kids is too high and that's why some are not having kids.
No. No, that's a complete and total cup.
That's a complete and total cup.
People are not having kids because they're depressed, because they're anxious, because they're greedy, because they're lazy, because they're entitled, because they imagine they're immortal and they're not planning for the second half of their life.
No. It's just an excuse.
It's like the same way that people say, well, I'm not having kids because of the environment.
It's like, ah, come on. You're going to be lying.
Just a bunch of liars. Lots of deals can be found on overstocked items as well.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, just go around the outside of the store, right?
And you can fill up on salad and veggies pretty cheap.
I had this weird stitch off today.
Anyway, alright. Let me get back to your...
Let's see here.
Hi, Steph. Just joined and have a question if it's not too off-topic.
I buy a big piece of meat and learn to butcher.
I've never gotten around to that, but yes.
Do you think the non-aggression principle is the God we live with but cannot see?
By God, I use it to mean that the highest thing we can conceive of is human beings.
Do you think the non-aggression principle is the God we live with but cannot see?
Well, welcome. Welcome to the show.
I'm going to give you a little philosophy 101.
Philosophy is not theology.
Philosophy is not theology.
If you want to say a philosophical argument is like a God, then you're saying a God is like a mechanical bridge.
Would you say that? Would you go to a church and say a God is kind of like a mechanical bridge because we use it to get somewhere?
No, because a mechanical bridge would be the subject of engineering and God would be the subject of theology.
So with philosophy, we do reason and evidence.
So the non-aggression principle is a reasoned argument for morality.
And you can find all of that in my free book, Universally Preferable Behavior, A Rational Proof of Secular Ethics.
You can get that for free at freedomand.com.
I hope that you will read it or listen to it in the audiobook format.
But Now, if you're going to say, do you think that this philosophical argument is like a god, then you would be mixing oil and water.
Philosophy and theology are not the same, and they don't even really overlap.
So, yes, you want to...
Oh, did you have a topic for the night?
Well, that may be a reasonable thing to...
Well, you know, babies motivate you to be better.
Yeah, I mean, babies will help you earn more money and be more focused and all that kind of thing.
All right, let me get to...
I'm happy to take more questions, and I find this sort of very interesting.
But let's get to the topic here.
Can I do that? Oh, dear, oh, dear, oh, dear.
Hmm? My bookmark's gone.
Am I in the wrong place here?
Ah, there they are. Ooh, have you guys...
So hit me with a Y if you've ever heard of the...
Am I the asshole? Have you heard of this?
Speaking of the books you've written, the present was great.
I recommended it to my sister who is nearing her 30s and a bunch of other people I know.
Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
They think they have to be perfect before babies.
Nope! They don't want the responsibility.
They don't want to grow up. Having babies is one of the first acts of the acceptance of death, right?
Having babies is one of the first acts of the acceptance of death and people who are living eternal childhood or eternal adolescence don't want to think about death because babies are there because you're not going to be there, right?
Babies are here because you're not going to be here.
My daughter's here to replace me.
Your kids are there to replace you.
Having babies is the first step in the acceptance of death which allows you to organize your life so that it's not total bullshit.
Alright, so am I the asshole?
Okay. This one's a little creepy.
So this is a woman.
Am I the asshole for believing my daughter over a, quote, grown man?
I don't know if I watch too many crime shows or if I'm just paranoid, so I've come here to ask.
So last week I made chicken gnocchi soup.
When it was almost done, I started helping my daughter with a school project.
She got us both a bowl and a few seconds later my boyfriend runs into the room with a bowl and tells me to eat the bowl he has.
I told him it was all the same, and he insisted that he wanted mine because it had more chicken.
Thinking back now, I don't know how he would know that.
I don't know how he would know that, considering my daughter dished it out.
My daughter took the bowl he gave me and said she would eat it.
He yanked it out of her hand and said, No, it's for Mom!
So I took the bowl, and he went into the living room.
I continued doing my daughter's project and told her not to eat the soup.
Twenty-ish minutes later, I walked into the kitchen to pour the soups out, and he was still eating his.
He asked why we didn't eat any, and I said the cat got into it while we were waiting for it to cool down.
He screamed, What?
Was it your bowl?
Cats can't eat that!
I told him it was only a lick, but he has been stressed out, watching the cat like a hawk, obsessive even.
His reaction was very weird.
These, quote, accidents all happened before the soup incident over the span of six months.
It wasn't one after another in a short period of time.
Since then, my emergency money has gone missing.
I keep money hidden just in case.
I lost my older sister because she wasn't able to escape a dangerous situation, and I literally swore on her grave.
I would never be in that position.
After the soup incident, I went to get my money and it was gone.
It was hidden and I changed the location every few months.
I asked my daughter if maybe she took it and that if she took it I wouldn't be mad because I knew she couldn't have spent it.
She said no. A few hours later she tells me she forgot but the other day her and my boyfriend got pulled over and she saw my pink wallet in his glove box.
I did not tell her which wallet it was in or that it was in a wallet.
I decided to ask my boyfriend if he found it by accident.
He asked me why I was hiding a large amount of money.
You know, you could never leave me.
He sat and laughed.
He's never said anything like that before.
I told him it was for my daughter's Christmas.
He said no, he didn't find the money, but I could use his credit card for gifts.
I didn't tell him about my daughter seeing my wallet in his car.
Now here are a few other things that have happened in the past few months that seem random at the time, but now they don't.
I have a severe allergy to latex.
So one day we were about to have sex and I glanced at the mirror we have by our bed and I saw the condom wrapper was a different color.
I stopped him because it wasn't latex free.
And he said, it was a mistake and it's just an older condom he had.
We've been dating for over two years and he knows how serious my allergy is.
My EpiPen that I keep in my room is missing and I didn't realize it.
I didn't realize it was missing until I was searching for my money.
Another odd thing is one day he was following me down the stairs while I was carrying laundry and kicked the back of my leg and I fell.
He said he slipped but the stairs are wood and he was wearing his steel-toed boots.
At the time, I thought it was...
Am I overthinking this?
My anxiety has been at an all-time high.
Do I watch too much true crime?
Here's why I think I might be the asshole.
We have a good relationship.
He loves my daughter like she is his.
We split all shared bills and we both pull our own weight around the apartment.
We don't fight. He's never smushed as raised his voice at me.
We are paycheck to paycheck, but bills are paid.
I thought about going to my mom's house for a few days and asking him when I get there, when I'm safe, about the money.
But I don't have money to do that now.
She's on a fixed income and can't help.
I feel stupid for being scared.
Last night I decided to check his car for my wallet and he caught me.
I asked him for my money back, and he tried playing dumb.
I told him my daughter saw it there.
He told me she was lying.
I told him I never told her about the money or what wallet it was in.
He said he was a grown man and kids lie all the time.
I asked him once more for my money, and he said, I'm not giving you money to leave me.
I waited until he was in the shower to grab my cat and my daughter, and we left.
I can't take my cat with us to a shelter, and the domestic violence shelters are full.
I was able to get us a night at a cheap motel.
This exact situation is why I had money saved.
I did everything right, and now I'm screwed.
I feel like I just blew up my entire life.
Yes, I'm using a burner account and reading all the comments that I can.
What do you guys think?
Overreaction?
What do you think?
Thank you, Steph. The reason I thought of NAP is God is because it's the closest thing I can think of that will
bring us salvation.
especially seeing you breathe UPB and peaceful parenting into life because of it and listening to the call-ins.
Perhaps God is the wrong term, but in my life, it's more real than any other God that has been conceptualized while doing all the things we would want God to do for us.
If the idea is an ideal and a value and you have absorbed and are recreating and reproducing the idea, then you have become the highest value and there's no need to look up for anything.
At this point, he aimed a gun at my head and said, die, bitch!
But I'm not sure if that's bad.
Doesn't sound like a troll post.
It sounds like a woman dating a sociopathic narcissist.
Yeah, I would imagine that he wants to get rid of the mother because he probably wants to have sex with the daughter or rape the daughter.
That would be my guess. But I don't know.
Oh, I wanted to mention something too.
I mentioned the other day about the woman who was caught masturbating, I don't know, two years ago or something in a park.
She did kill herself, but apparently it was before her post went viral.
She killed herself about a year and a half ago.
So I just wanted to mention that. I found that update.
She can't claim they had a good relationship and that she had a fund to leave him.
Well, here's the thing, right?
So, here's the family repetition, is that her sister also, so they had a violent father, so both the daughters are with violent guys, or dangerous guys, right?
So, and the other thing, too, is she says, he's never even raised my voice.
He's never even raised his voice at me, whereas earlier she says, he screamed, what?
Was it your bowl? Cats can't eat that, right?
So, it doesn't really make a lot of sense, and because it doesn't make a lot of sense, and fiction tends to make more sense, I can kind of believe it.
Alright, let me get to where I want to get to, because this will blow your mind.
This will blow your mind.
Anyway, this is another one I thought was interesting.
Women would not survive a week if men vanished.
Ask my wife what she would do if society collapsed and I wasn't around.
What do you mean? How would you get water?
From the sink? No. The power is off.
The internet is down. No water.
Nothing. Back to the Stone Age.
How would you get water? I don't know.
For reference, there is a three-acre pond across the street.
When I asked if she knew how to make that water safe to drink, she was shocked.
To hear she couldn't just take a sip from the pond.
All women vanish, men can't reproduce, but live to the end of their natural lives.
All men vanish, women dead within a week.
I don't think it's particularly true, but I thought it was kind of funny.
This woman, what's behind the rise in childless women in their 40s?
In my experience, men.
It's so tempting, isn't it?
Isn't it just so tempting to blame others, to blame men.
Oh, the men. Oh, this is funny.
When girls press their whole body against you, when they hug it means they like you a lot.
Also, they're measuring your body to determine how long it will take for them to eat you.
A technique also shared by boa constrictors.
I, uh... A man walks into his bedroom and sees his wife packing a suitcase.
He asks, what are you doing?
She replies, I'm off to New York.
I read the prostitutes there get paid $400 for doing what I do for you for free.
Later on her way out, the wife walks into the bedroom and sees her husband packing his suitcase.
Where are you going? She asks.
I'm coming with you. I want to see how you live on $800 a year.
Oh man, sexless marriages are just torture.
Absolute torture. At Yale, 92% of grades in women's studies are either A or A-.
Only 55% in mathematics are...
I guess the women's studies majors are just ten times smarter than the mathematics majors.
It's a miracle.
Iconic moments from the internet.
A woman said, can you tell me why you want to see my boobs?
And the man left two messages, one 13 minutes long, the other over 27 minutes long.
That's a dedicated boob watcher.
I'll show you that. Oh yeah, this is a lawyer from Montreal.
A very passionate guy with some pretty wild hair.
This was really sad, I thought.
It was really, really sad. It was really sad.
Tell me if you've had this experience.
He wrote, when was this?
Yesterday. Yeah, yesterday.
He wrote, today I had a two plus decade old best friend formerly cut ties with me.
We hadn't really been in touch since COVID. Whenever I came back to Canada, I would DM to grab a coffee or lunch and would get a runaround, which I chalked up to busy lives.
I suspected other issues were at play, but I thought I was being over-cynical, even for myself.
Anyway, in anticipation of coming back for the holidays, I reached out yesterday with a humorous, are you still alive?
The thought that my best friend has actually died did occur to me.
The response was a terse informal, I have no interest in catching up.
Paraphrasing. It was weird, like an emotional gut punch that I could actually feel physically.
I mean, we hadn't been in touch for years, so there's no actual day-to-day loss.
It's not even the formal death of the potential, we have friends and we'll catch up when we catch up type thing that hurts so much either.
It's trying to understand what happened in the mind and soul of a 25-plus-year friend who knew and knows me in a way few people do.
The reply was so bizarre that it actually felt like maybe his account was hacked, but it wasn't.
What's most depressing about this is not really the loss of a friend.
It happens all the time, and by the time it happens, the friend is almost definitionally no longer a friend.
It's just how it happened in this case.
No cheating, no broken promises, no drunken fights.
When someone says something that can't be taken back, just Politics.
Just the fruits of the destabilizing forces we've been living under for years.
What evolution, no, devolution has to go on in somebody's psyche to unfriend a lifelong friend over politics and unfriend in the real sense, not in the superficial social media sense.
What level of trauma, of demonization, of perceived fears, perceived evil?
In the mind of my former friend, I had become so bad, so wicked, so evil that 25 years of memories had been recreated in his mind.
All the shared memories of friendship replaced.
Replaced with a manufactured perception of evil so evil it required a formal rupture of decades of lived experience.
I forgive my friend.
He's my friend, and if the next time we see each other is at a funeral instead of Christmas, I will forgive him, hug him, and forget the insanity.
But I will never forgive the entities that did this to my friend, and to so many others.
How weak and fragile are the souls of those who have been conditioned to fear their friends.
Yeah. There's nasty, ugly stuff out there, man.
Nasty, ugly stuff out there.
And it's funny, you know, because people say, well, how could you have any conflicts over politics?
It's like, politics is who gets the point the gun where?
So, I don't know that it's, you know, I don't know.
I think it's obviously a very beautifully written and heartfelt message.
And it's just very sad that this is what politics is.
It's so profitable to set people against each other.
We'll never know how many friends we could have had.
We'll never know how many friends we could have had.
Anon, right? So this is interesting.
Two-year-old son chokes on bread, spits it out, refuses to eat anymore.
Have to give him meal replacement bottles instead because he won't eat now.
Wife insists on taking him to a feeding therapist.
Insurance covers it okay.
Feeding therapist says, speech delay, sensory issues, autistic, other issues, needs lots of therapy and more therapists and nutrition specialists.
Sun starts refusing baths.
Wife talks to therapist.
Yes, very common with children with sensory issues, needs more therapy.
I take over one bath time, discover wife had the water too cold, warmer water.
Hey, kid likes baths again.
Randomly, kid starts talking more in the space of a month, going from way behind on vocab to slightly ahead.
Wife insists we mustn't force kid to eat.
That would set therapy back.
After a year of therapy and eating only meal replacement drinks, I'm tired of it and just sit with my son and a plate of food.
Every time my son picks up a toy, I take it from him and tell him he can have it back if he eats a little.
This takes, I don't know, about 30 minutes.
Wife is screaming at me, crying, throwing a fit.
Son is mad. After a while, son just starts eating to get his toys back.
Now, son eats normally, speaks normally, takes baths normally.
All the things the therapist said he was sensory avoidant, Are just made up.
Anyone else have experience with doctors or therapists or whatever like this?
Seems like they have no fucking idea what they're doing.
I only partially blame the doctors because I'm sure my wife was lying to them about how my son's issues and symptoms, about my son's issues and symptoms, but still, they had over a year to fix issues that didn't even really exist.
What the hell is going on? Mike Sinovich wrote, man, you're either going to marry this neurotic hypochondriac woman in the green text or the one who has onions soaking in honey and won't let you take ibuprofen when you're sick after she read a book about how viruses aren't real.
Well, of course, those aren't the only two options, but that is, yeah, Munchausen by proxy syndrome, right?
Yeah. Well, it's the insurance, right?
It's the insurance. It's insurance.
You've got to pay for this for yourself, you'll find a cheaper and better way to do it, right?
Insurance is the curse with all this kind of stuff because without the price, you can indulge in neurosis, right?
Without the price, you can just indulge in neurosis.
All right. This is what I want to get to and crazy.
All right. A total fertility rate of 0.7.
So, what is South Korea at now?
Yeah, there's places where it's 0.66, 0.5, 0.7.
Now, we all know fertility rate has to be 2.1 to replace the population, keep it even.
A total fertility rate of 0.7 is equivalent to saying that for every 20 people, the next generation will have only 7.
If you start out with a population of 800 in the first generation, the next generation will have only 280 people.
The third one will have 98 people.
And by the fourth generation, you've gone from 800 people to 34.
In other words, there would be 23 times as many people in the oldest cohort as there are in the youngest.
So, that's a total fertility rate.
At 0.6, 800 goes to 240, to 72, to 21.
At 0.5, you go from 800, to 200, to 50, to 12.
At these levels, without any additional inputs, immigration, invasion, or changes, a population of 25 million would fall below the viable minimum size in about 200 years.
Although, well before that, you would see most institutions, services, production, etc.
breaking down.
An additional problem is that these rates are not constant.
It's not 0.7, 0.6, 0.5.
It's not. They keep declining.
Over time, more people drop out of the workforce and draw on the pension system.
This creates an additional financial burden on the fertile and working age population, which either manifests through taxes, increases in the cost of living, debt, obviously, or otherwise being shut out from the ability to save and build lasting wealth.
And because people are being taxed to pay for the elder generation that didn't have enough kids, They can't afford their own kids, so it gets even worse and worse and worse and worse.
And nobody knows how to reverse this.
Nobody knows how to reverse this.
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I mean, I know how to reverse this.
It's very easy. Do we know how to reverse this?
I mean, a free society. That's how you reverse it.
It's a free society. I mean, the housing should be unbelievably cheap at the moment as the boomers retire and move out of their big homes.
Housing should be incredibly cheap.
And that would balance the birth rate.
High birth rate, and then you get a low birth rate, and then it goes back to high birth rate because the cost of living is so much lower.
But it's crazy.
And fun. And fun.
And fun. Civilization is a Ponzi where old sell their claims on wealth for the labor of the young.
Dan, you're absolutely right, but please don't insult Ponzi schemes, which at least remain voluntarily.
Ponzi schemes are voluntary.
Debt and taxation is not.
Yeah, I was just reading about that, and it's one thing to hear, oh, 0.7, that's low.
Gosh, what is Japan TFR? I mean, it's...
Is it below 1?
I think it's below 1.
Oh, not so bad. 1.368.
Let's see here. I want to just double check that.
Let's get to 1.4, 1.3.
Yeah, so it's not as bad as South Korea.
And the reasons why I find it interesting, I think that the previous Prime Minister of Japan, Shinzo Abe, said to the issue of population decline, have sex.
No. No, I think it's maybe more of a male thing.
Do you get a sense when things aren't going to last?
Like in society? Certainly I think East Asians, Northern Europeans, because we grew up with these big-ass winters, we have a very deep sense of when things can last and when they can't.
I mean, if you didn't have that sense, you wouldn't plan enough for the winter and you wouldn't make it, right?
So I think we have this kind of deep sense.
Of when things will last and when they don't.
And aren't we all just feeling like we're just at the high end of the arc?
It's just gonna...
It's just gonna...
And this has a big effect on whether people want to have kids, right?
Let me ask you this personal question.
You don't have to answer anything you don't want to.
Yeah, people are super depressed in Japan.
Demographics of destiny? Well, I mean, debt is destiny.
You feel that all the time? Okay, hit me with a why if you've not had kids out of fear for the future.
Have you not had kids? Out of fear for the future.
Assume decadence is fleeting.
Yes, but the cure for decadence seems to be quite brutal.
Yes, but we must press on.
Things feel like they are slowly collapsing.
Well, and that slow becomes fast at some point, right?
That slow becomes fast.
Somebody says, I've heard that the percentage of women having five or more children has stayed constant.
I think it's a more right-wing segment.
Yeah, certainly the Christians are having lots of kids and so on, right?
The urban leftists aren't, which is why they tend to be more pro-immigration.
I feel like the earth is shaking underfoot.
Today is my due date for the second kid, actually.
Hey, congratulations. How nice.
Yes, but I'm having one right now.
That's right. I hope right now, I hope that having a mere child is not an interruption to my live stream.
Just kidding, of course. I was out this afternoon and I've had this happen a couple of times.
I'll just, I'll share this experience with you and maybe this hits something about you.
Maybe it's more personal to me. I don't know, but I'll share it and we'll see if we have this in common.
So I was out walking around.
I went out with my daughter and my wife.
We went to a very fun place.
So I'm walking around and I'm looking around at the people.
And it's like...
It's all an illusion.
It's sort of a depersonalization feeling or thought.
Like, this is all an illusion propped up by debt.
And people are just wandering around and, you know, they were in their big coats and they were doing all their things and leaving footprints and it was...
And it's all like, none of this is real.
And in a sense, some of the people aren't even real because they're only here because of debt and they're only alive because of debt and they only have money because of debt and they're only here because of debt.
Like, their presence here, the coats, the watches, the cell phones, the cars, it's just...
A fever dream of mad money creation.
It's like the world is a crazed drug vision fueled by the distortionary effects of imaginary money.
It's not real.
I don't know.
I'm probably not explaining it that well.
But I hope this makes...
Some kind of sense about this unreality.
Like everything that runs, runs based on people who are leaving us.
I mean, sometimes it feels like a quarter of my day is just trying to get things to work that used to work.
You know, oh, I need to log into this web account.
Oh, it sends, it's going to send me a text message.
Oh, it doesn't. Oh, I click it again.
Oh, now it does. But then I try to log in and it sends me back to the login page.
So then I have to make a phone call and then I get to the phone call and then you don't get anywhere.
Like, It just feels like things used to work.
And I know that they used to work because I've been around for a while now.
So things used to work and I just feel like I'm sort of...
So everything that's running, the lights, the electricity, the water, everything's just running based upon knowledge that is fading out.
Like the elves are leaving the West.
Like this knowledge is just going.
It's retiring. It's evaporating.
It's disintegrating. And everybody is skating on the thin ice of the dream of debt.
And people are now, well, I'm going to run out my credit cards, or I'm going to borrow money from my parents, or I'm going to sell some knickknacks, or I'm going to sell some property, I'm going to go rent.
They're eating the seed crop and they're going into debt and none of it is real.
It's a slow-motion sickness of the modern world.
world.
you You know, it's like you have a ball when you're a kid and you play this game, right?
You're on your own, you throw the ball up and you catch it, right?
You throw the ball up and it's like, shoo!
But the moment the ball leaves your hand, it's falling.
The moment the ball leaves your hand, it's falling.
Like, the moment you turn 20, you're dying.
Or 25, or whatever, right? But the moment the ball leaves your hand, okay, it's got some upward momentum because you've thrown it, but the moment the ball leaves your hand, it's falling.
It just takes a little while, and then it falls, and it falls fast.
Did you see the photos Mike Cernovich posted on Twitter?
It was a lot of old people working at the weapons factory.
Yeah. Oh yeah, you've got people who know exactly how to get the right helmet and boulder's gait, but they don't have any idea how to work with their hands, how to get things done.
What happens when the current generation of expert plumbers and electricians and builders and contractors are gone?
The people who supervise the people who don't know what they're doing at least tell them what to do.
God You call the money it's just being torn out of the hides of
the poor It's like vampirism, being torn out of the hides of the poor and sent to the old.
They were consuming it without producing anything.
Or the law.
People coming out of law school are pretty ideological and not in accordance with old common law standards.
The law is not something that operates like physics.
The law is just everybody's collective opinion and interpretation.
Oh, Vox Day thinks we could lose indoor plumbing by 2030?
you Yeah, I mean, so one of the jobs I had...
In my career in the software world, one of the jobs I had was working on software that helped predict the cycles of maintenance and replacement for major capital equipment.
This was everything from factories to apartment buildings to schools to Real estate portfolios, you know, things, you build a bunch of stuff over a couple of years, it's pretty cheap for five or ten years, and then people say, oh, well, I'll just budget.
But, like, you know, going forward, it's different, right?
It's like saying, well, you know, the first five years, my car was totally cheap, so I guess I'll just do that for the next 20 years.
It's like, nope, because things are going to start to wear out and fall apart.
And the unfunded liabilities were just staggering.
I mean, particularly in schools, as we can imagine, right?
So, there's all of this stuff that's kind of working, kind of falling apart, being patched up together by people.
And it's like a late at a shrug kind of vibe.
And I'm just looking at all this stuff, like all these lights, this all held aloft by intelligence and expertise and competence and will and ambition.
and all of the conditions that produce and maximize those fuels are fading away.
It's hard to have sympathy with people says Jarrett.
Universality is most evident of all things as the vice evil of the state.
People still worship politics. Yes, well I mean it really doesn't matter whether we have sympathy or not with people.
not with people.
I mean, I don't mean to be overly black-pilled, and I could be wrong about all of this, but from my standpoint, because I've wrestled with this literally for decades, which is how much sympathy do we have?
Is it, forgive them, Father, for they know not what they have done, or is it, hey, you chose it, you choose, you make the choice, you choose the consequences?
How much are people responsible for their own choices when they're propagandized, when they may not be too smart, when their family lies to them and everyone lies to them and they were raised by liars?
How much sympathy would we have for kids in North Korea who worship the supreme leader?
Well, they have to. They have to.
But they can't survive.
I mean, that's more of an extreme, obviously, but...
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
The conclusion I've come to is it doesn't matter whether I sympathize with people or not.
Whether I sympathize with them or not, it's not going to change the outcome.
So I try to reserve my sympathies for outcomes that I can affect.
I hope that makes sense.
So, are they to blame for the ignorance that they have, blah, blah, blah?
They refuse to learn, they refuse to choose, and Austrian economics is literally sitting in their back pocket, and they could access it at any time, or ask questions, or learn, or the internet means nobody has any responsibility for ignorance, or whatever.
And it's like, eh, doesn't matter whether I have sympathy with them or not.
The die is cast, right? So, I'll save my sympathy for people whose choices I can affect.
I mean, especially now, sort of collapsed down like a neutron star to the core competency of philosophy rather than politics and other things that I was working on before.
Doesn't matter. I mean, men are paying down their student loans, right? Women aren't. Because women, I mean, a lot of women have these fantasies of the rich savior, right?
Okay, I'll pay the minimum until my rich savior comes along, right?
And they don't think that the price of the rich savior will be having children.
They think that the price of the rich savior will just be having sex.
Yeah, mises.org is a great resource.
Yeah, so the women think, well, I don't really need to pay down my debt that hard because either the government will run in, Daddy Biden will take my debt away, or some guy is going to rush in and save me and so on, and they think that all they have to do in return is to offer sex, really, or companionship or whatever I'm going to call it.
It's like, no, concubines don't retire wealthy.
They don't. They don't.
And, you know, of course, one of the big challenges is that if women have the perception that someone is going to come and save them, they'll make the decisions that will demand that the politicians come along and save them at the expense of men, which means a lower birth rate and all that kind of stuff.
Maybe, though, people in their 50s and up seem to be more like, I won't be seeing the collapse, so I don't care what's going to happen.
Do people in their 50s really think that our current system is going to last, what, another 30 years?
They don't think that, do they?
Do they think that? Really?
I can't believe that.
Pavarotti's second wife got everything.
Ah.
Excuse me for coming in late.
Steph, did you read the local's post about love indoctrination, the biological origin of peaceful parenting?
Do you have any thoughts on this topic? I did see it and I've got it stored somewhere, but I haven't run it through my big chatty forehead yet, but I will.
50s and 60s, yeah, at least here in Finland.
Really? Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine that people in their 50s, what is the average life expectancy in the early 80s for smart people?
I can't imagine people in their 50s think it's got another 30 plus years, or 30 years.
Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, I obviously tried for four decades plus to teach people with reason and evidence.
They chose not to listen, and they're just going to have to learn through suffering.
They're just going to have to learn through suffering.
And it's a shame, but you know.
I don't have any particularly strong opinions about it because, you know, the important thing, because it's all about me, right?
The important thing is that you have to have, I mean, for me, as long as I have a good conscience, and for me, it's really tough to earn a good conscience mark for myself.
Like, it's really, really tough because I obviously view my abilities as quite high.
And when your abilities are quite high, then...
What your conscience demands of you tends to be very high as well.
And a lot, of course, of what I've done has been, I have to satisfy my conscience.
I have to satisfy my conscience.
And that's not just about my happiness, pleasure, or relief, or regret, or remorse.
It's because if I've satisfied my conscience, then I've done everything possible.
And since I feel like I'm one of the most able people in this area, if I've done everything possible and failed, then the quest was impossible, but I needed to know that.
How many years do you think the system has?
What was it? Ten years ago, I said five to fifteen.
And again, depends what you mean, right?
Depends what you mean. So, I mean, yeah, I imagine they're going to cause an economic crisis and then sell people on fixed income through CDBCs and then it's it.
It's a good run. Push until you get cancelled.
How can you skirt the line and try to balance holding back with not getting cancelled?
You can skirt the line and try and balance holding back with not getting cancelled.
Are you saying that it was possible for me to not get cancelled?
That I could have avoided some topics and not get cancelled?
Do you really feel I need to be told that?
I'm just curious. I've been working and trying to convince people for 40 years.
I've been doing this job for 18 years.
16 of it for full time.
Are you trying to tell me that there's ways to not get cancelled?
You think I don't know that?
I'm just curious. You know, you could just skirt the line and try and balance holding back but not getting cancelled?
Yeah. Yeah, Cernovich is still on X. Absolutely.
There's no questions. Lots of people who are still on X. But they have their conscience and I have mine.
Right? They have their conscience and I have mine.
Whether one's better or worse is for history to decide, but if you know that some topics are essential for saving the world, then you talk about those topics.
And I know the topics I talked about were essential to saving the world.
I'm not going to fake it.
I'm not going to pretend, right? And if I wasn't going to talk about those topics, my conscience would have gotten me.
Well, Steph, if you just stick to non-controversial topics, you would not get cancelled.
Right, of course. Of course.
Of course. And do you know where I don't want to get cancelled?
Where do I not want to get cancelled?
I could give a shit, frankly, about getting cancelled in the here and now.
Where do I not want to get cancelled?
What is the job of a philosopher?
Is it to save the present?
Where do I not want to get cancelled?
And if I were to not get cancelled here, I would definitely be cancelled there.
And if I'm cancelled here, I won't be cancelled there.
Where is my audience?
Where do I not want to get cancer?
No, not with you.
Although I'm very glad to be doing this journey with you.
The future. Oh.
The future. I mean, that's where I live.
That's why I wrote a whole book called The Future.
About the future. Yeah.
It's about the future.
Philosophy is like having a baby.
right?
screams at you a lot, keeps you up at night sometimes kind of rough, makes a lot of mess
but it grows into something absolutely beautiful and you put up with all of that
to grow something beautiful in the future.
The sales job is in the future.
And you can't sell to the future without being damned by the present.
You can't sell ethics to the future without being damned by the present.
And if you're praised by the present, then you're conforming to the present, which means you'll be invisible in the future.
So you just have to have a deferral of gratification enough to recognize that I'll be long dead before my value to the world is recognized.
But you love it more than life itself.
That's a very foolish cliché, my friend.
I love it more than life itself.
That's not true. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here.
I mean, we all know from history there's plenty of things a philosopher can do that can get you killed.
So, no, I don't love it more than life itself.
And even if I did, if I weren't here, I couldn't do philosophy.
So watch your cliches.
I'm not saying this for me. I'm watching it.
Watch them for yourself.
I don't love philosophy more than life itself.
That's a contradiction because you can't do philosophy if you're not alive.
And if I'm the best at it, as I think I am, then I can't love philosophy more than life itself because I can't do it if I'm dead.
And there's still a lot more to do.
But you love your own child that way.
Can you imagine if I ever said to my daughter, I love you more than life itself?
This is not a Marvel movie.
This is not a war movie. This is not a sentimental piece of propaganda to get people to pick up guns and run to the front.
I love my own child more than life itself.
I don't know what that would mean, but that seems like a pretty fucking heavy burden to put on a kid.
Would I sacrifice my life for my child, blah, blah, blah?
No. I would do everything I could in my power to avoid being in that situation.
Now, if it came down to, yes, I would sacrifice my life for my child, but the whole point is to not end up in that situation.
So, I don't know why you have all of these beliefs that go fundamentally against staying alive, but you might want to watch that nihilism within you.
The purpose of philosophy is to enhance life, not to suicide yourself for its advantage.
Now, that's a sinister internal alter ego, I think, my friend, that's saying, you have
to value these values more than life itself.
It's like, that's kind of intense and a little creepy, if you don't mind me saying so.
so I'm not saying this is you. Do you think Socrates should have put his life
above drinking the hemlock?
I think Socrates should have maybe opposed child rape in his inner circle.
How's that? How's that?
See, if Socrates had opposed child rape in his inner circle, he probably wouldn't have been hemlocked.
He wasn't hemlocked for asking questions.
He wasn't hemlocked for being skeptical of authority.
He was largely hemlocked because he was creating a pedophile society of child rapists.
I mean, sorry if you haven't listened to the French Revolution stuff where I go into this in more detail, but I think if Socrates had managed to do some basic things like, I don't know, oppose pedophilia, oppose child abuse, maybe oppose slavery, and so on, then I think that would have been a better situation for the world as a whole.
The fact that he drank hemlock?
Okay. And I've done a whole trial and death of Socrates where I talk about the curse he gave us, right?
What was the curse that Socrates gave us?
Obey the law, obey the law, obey the law, obey the law, obey the state, obey the state, obey the state, obey the state, the state that was killing him.
He would have been flayed?
I don't know.
I mean, we don't know.
We don't know. We don't know.
But it would have had some integrity.
I remember when I first read the symposium.
It gave me bone shivers.
It really did. Creepy.
I know it's not an argument.
I'm just telling you my sort of visceral experience.
All right. Any last questions, my friends?
Not going to lie, Steph. I do feel a bit down knowing what's coming and not starting a family.
So the way that you avoid feeling down is get yourself some good friends and companions.
Get yourself some good friends and companions.
It's an emergency situation.
Go find yourself people that you can devote yourself to and they can devote themselves to you.
Find yourself good friends and companions.
The only thing worse than going through what's coming is going through it alone.
That you don't want.
That you don't want. With the right people you can bear almost anything.
With the wrong people, almost everything is unbearable.
Ooh, this is a Goan for you.
All right. Well, listen, guys, I really appreciate it if you're listening to this later.
If you want to help out somebody who I think is doing a good job in the course of free speech, you might want to get yourself an account on Premium, on X, and really, really do.
Yeah, make some food. Take it to your neighbors.
Introduce yourself. Ask them about their thoughts, their ideals, their politics, their virtues, their values.
Join some, yeah, local clubs.
Fantastic. All kinds of great stuff can happen.
So, Thanks everyone so much.
Really appreciate your time tonight.
A great, great pleasure to chat.
We will talk Sunday. It's going to be an hour and a half on Sunday for a variety of reasons.