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Aug. 19, 2023 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux

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	I've seen Rich Man North of Richmond, but I don't know how to sing it yet.
	Sing it for donations.
	No, they didn't. So, I was just saying that there was a school, inner-city school, where, from the photos, it looked like a mostly black school.
	Twenty-three students had been arrested or suspended or something like that over two days for fights and violence and so on.
	And how did they stop this?
	Well, I saw posted on X... My Truth About Crime presentation and I dipped into it just because I'm like, oh, what a fresh-faced youth I was seven years ago.
	And I was like, man, it's a really good presentation.
	And in it I talk about peaceful parenting in particular in the black community as a way of reducing crime by 90% and reducing violence by 90% according to the data.
	So the way that they stopped the fighting in this school was they just had a bunch of dads show up and hang around the school and the fighting stopped.
	The fighting stopped.
	I mean, I was talking to someone not too long ago about the data that I studied well over 25 years ago about how kids with young boys with ADHD, do you know what had them give the same scores as kids without ADHD? Do you know what...
	Do you know what cures ADHD in kids?
	Yeah, if the children had their father around, the young boys had their father around, the ADHD symptoms seemed to vanish.
	No, it wasn't their dads. It was just some dads.
	Any dads. Any dads.
	Lack of fatherhood is an environmental toxin.
	An environmental toxin.
	It's really sad, really tragic.
	Did you see?
	I saw this pretty funny meme. Have you seen it?
	Schrodinger's Feminist? Have you seen that?
	Schrodinger's Feminist? It's quite interesting.
	So Schrodinger's Feminist is...
	If you're a modern woman, you can either be hyper-empowered or a helpless victim.
	You see what happens, you figure out which strategy will benefit you the most, and that's what you become.
	That's Schrodinger's feminist. Super-empowered or ultimate victim.
	Just whichever gets you the most resources at the moment.
	It's kind of true in some ways.
	Well, men have their foibles, but you know.
	Alright, you know I'm just inert and waiting to be prodded by your great questions to summon hopefully some great rhetoric within me.
	Yeah, I mean, I remember looking this up many years ago for a presentation that, according to, I think it was at least two studies, half of black girls report being raped by black men before those girls reach the age of 18.
	Half of them, 50%. And it's funny because I didn't like boarding school, of course, at the time, but in hindsight, having a masculine authoritarian environment was probably fairly good for me, as opposed to the estrogen swamp fest of crazy subjectivity I was half drowning in.
	All of my best teachers were men, all three of them.
	Hmm. Hmm.
	Yeah, I mean, I was reading about how gaming used to be exclusively male, and then when women came into the space, now you can lose your Xbox account for rude words like that, right? So as women come in, you've got to make everything a safe space, and no one can get upset, and no one can get offended, and it's just the way of things.
	The way of things. You know, if you are on the Free Domain Locals platform, or other places too, if you subscribe, do a search for my analysis of Pink Floyd's The War, which was a hugely, hugely influential album for me when I was in my early teens.
	I knew very little about music.
	My mom had the worst taste.
	Mormon Tabernacle Choir, Ray Karniff singers.
	It was all this airy-fairy, ghostly, saccharine nonsense.
	And she was completely addicted to Elvis Presley's Christmas and my love.
	And it was not my cup of tea.
	And I ended up staying.
	My brother went to England.
	My mom went to Germany.
	I ended up staying with a friend of mine's grandparents and she was kind of dying and it was in this little condo.
	Man, I had nothing to say to these people.
	I had nothing to say. I didn't know them.
	I was just kind of stuck there for a whole summer.
	No money, nothing to do.
	And yeah, the more dangerous the woman, the more saccharine the music.
	That's just a sort of fact of life.
	And I have nothing to say to these poor people, many decades dead now.
	I remember walking along with the granddad, just walking down the street.
	I can't remember where we were going.
	I used to basically just hang out in the library and just read books all day because I had nothing to do.
	And I think I was maybe 11 or 12.
	I remember walking down...
	With the old guy. Now, of course, in hindsight, his wife was dying, and he was obviously concerned about that, and I can understand that.
	Walking down the street, we were past a donut store.
	It was spelled D-O-N-U-T. And, of course, I knew it was D-O-U-G-H-N-U-T. And I said, oh, I had nothing to say to the guy.
	And I said, oh, it's funny how they just changed the spelling, I guess, to fit it on the sign.
	It was a completely lame thing to say, and he just looked at me like a thousand yards there, and he's like, you want a donut?
	I'm like, no, I don't want a donut.
	I just... And that was a summer before philosophy and I came dangerously close to mysticism.
	I remember reading UFO stories and all of this kind of stuff, right?
	Oh, that was your mother's preferred music, too.
	And then I would go to the cottage with them occasionally, and I remember they had an 8-track in their car of Engelbert Humperdinck's greatest hits.
	There's a place in the sun where there's hope for everyone.
	And he's a good singer and all that, with obviously quite a memorable...
	Name that sounds like somebody trying to pronounce the Aztec nickname for a Welsh god having a stroke.
	But it took me some time.
	And it was actually a friend of mine who introduced me to better music and really, really helped me out.
	So... Well, of course they do.
	Of course they do. Because...
	Because absent males indicates that you are in a violent, are-selected, predatory, dangerous environment.
	So you crank up... The aggression genetically, or epigenetically I suppose.
	Male absence produces violence particularly, but it produces violence among young men and it produces promiscuity and early mansies among young women.
	So if you don't have a dad, you can get your period a year or two earlier because your body is just assuming that it's an incredibly dangerous environment.
	And so you're going to have to have an R-selected situation, right?
	You're going to just have spray and pray, right?
	Just have a whole bunch of kids and hope that one of them makes it to adulthood.
	The Rippington's and Kenny G. I had a funny line in my novel, The God of Atheists.
	Godofatheists.com. One guy is like, I want to beat Kenny G to death with whatever the hell instrument he's playing.
	Anyway. All right.
	Let's get...
	On Father's Day, they say single moms are fathers too.
	Yeah. No.
	No. Women...
	Moms can't be dads and dads can't be moms.
	So... Alright, Steph, I remember you saying once to distance yourself from friends who are divorcing.
	Can you share some more of your thoughts on that?
	Happy and I are happily married.
	One of my female friends just told me she and her husband are divorcing.
	I know to cut her off, but I'd love to know your thoughts on why.
	Well, let me ask you this, my friend.
	Do they have children?
	Your friends who are divorcing, do they have children?
	Yes, they have two children and can you give me you don't have to give me exact ages are they under 10
	Early mid teens late teens adults how old are they?
	Oh the two kids are in their early 30s Okay, so they're right, all of that.
	So, you don't divorce yourself from your partner.
	Right? You don't divorce yourself from your partner.
	Do you know what you're actually divorcing yourself from?
	It's not your kids. What are you divorcing yourself from?
	I see your question, Joe, about passion.
	I'll just make a note of that. What are you divorcing yourself from when you get divorced?
	Your earlier choices Your vows? No, you're breaking your vows.
	Right, so you're not separating from...
	Your partner, you're separating from the truth.
	You're divorcing the truth.
	Okay, hit me with a why.
	If you've known someone, could be in your own family, could be your parents, could be you.
	If you've known someone who's gone through a divorce, who's told the absolute rock-solid truth about the situation.
	Hit me with a why. I never have.
	Hit me with an N if you know people who just lie through their teeth about being divorced.
	I've never known anybody who's going through a divorce who can tell the truth about the situation.
	Ah, good. Sabrina has known one person, but overwhelmingly it's, how can we know for sure?
	Oh, you know for sure.
	Yeah, there's an absolute test as to whether somebody's telling the truth about a divorce.
	Do you know what the test is?
	And it's a big test in life.
	Do you want to know what the big test is to know if someone's telling the truth?
	Got shown the video of the wife in bed with another dude, hidden cam.
	And I bet he played the victim, didn't he?
	No, during divorce.
	Not post-divorce?
	Not post-divorce. When someone lies about something, the lie hardens.
	So the initial lie is like soft concrete.
	It hardens and the lie becomes permanent.
	Does the end of a long-term relationship count?
	It certainly does. See, you're divorced.
	See, people think that there's only divorce when you're married.
	That's not true at all. For most of human history, there was no such thing as a license, as sort of a formal marriage.
	You just pair bonded and had kids together.
	My parents, somebody says, divorced when I was two, I didn't find out the truth until I was 30.
	Yes. If you've had a long-term relationship, it's a divorce.
	When you break up, it's a divorce.
	It's a divorce. And your body interprets it as death.
	I'm divorced too. I desperately want to get to the truth for my kids' sake.
	I've called in already. Right.
	But if you're divorced, you can't tell the truth.
	So, do you know the tell if someone's lying to you?
	100% tell you this is absolutely the case.
	And we'll start with divorce, but it's a larger thing.
	How do you know if somebody's lying to you?
	How do they... how do you know?
	They admit no wrong? Incentives?
	My three and a half year relationship, says John, felt like a divorce.
	I've definitely found myself being dishonest at times.
	Also 100% feels like death.
	Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so your body, you know, we've got this brain that floats around and then there's this infinite extension history down to the first single-celled organisms of our body.
	And we think that, well, we're just breaking up in love, but your body is like, how does your body experience it?
	Like a death. Too many details.
	They get mad when you bring up the topic so you know they're lying.
	Yeah, that's lack of curiosity or how you feel.
	So let's kind of take criticism of their side.
	Yeah, for sure. All right.
	So let's say that you are getting divorced, right?
	What is the greatest temptation and what is the absolute truth?
	Right? What is the greatest temptation and what is the absolute truth?
	It has to do, of course, with responsibility.
	What is the greatest temptation when you're getting divorced?
	Blame others or take responsibility.
	And this is true of everything that goes wrong in your life.
	Everything that goes wrong in your life follows the same pattern.
	Some disaster happens, you immediately want to blame the other party and excuse yourself.
	So, you know someone is telling the truth.
	When they take 100% responsibility.
	The moment they blame their partner and play the victim, they're lying.
	They're lying. It means they'll never improve.
	It means that the next X number of relationships are all going to be equally bad, trashy, or maybe even worse.
	What if your partner hit you?
	Who chose your partner? Who chose the partner?
	Who chose the partner? Look, it's one thing if you're just in the mall and somebody just clocks you out of nowhere.
	That's 100% the other person's fault.
	But if you date a guy, you don't ask him about his childhood or you avoid warning signs that he was raised in a violent and aggressive childhood.
	You see his temper. You see it simmering.
	I mean, they don't punch you to death on the first date, obviously, right?
	So if your partner hit you, You have to take responsibility for other people being in your life.
	You're not directly responsible for your partner hitting you, but you are responsible for that person being in your life.
	Because here's the thing.
	I don't want people to get hit.
	And if they blame the other person 100% and take no responsibility for themselves, they'll just wander into another abusive relationship.
	Follow? Somebody says, I'm reminded of stepping on a rake on purpose.
	100% my bad for letting the relationship progress as far as it did.
	Right, so 100% responsibility, taking 100% responsibility is the only way to prevent repetition.
	It's the only way to prevent repetition.
	If you end up in a relationship where your partner is abusive or aggressive towards you, You have to take responsibility for bringing that person into your life and you have to figure out what you missed, why you missed it, what your susceptibilities are, right?
	So it could be that this guy was like super handsome or super wealthy or super high status and you just let your greed for status or wealth or looking good or arm candy or eye candy.
	This happens male to female as well, right?
	You have to say, okay, what temptation did I fall prey to that I ended up in this situation?
	Because if the guy is violent towards you, clearly you overlooked some default or deficiency in his character and decided to commit to him, despite the fact that he was capable of hitting you.
	So you have to find out what did you overlook that you ended up in this situation.
	As somebody says, a four-year relationship that ended was a horrible experience for both.
	She cheated on me, but I had been cold towards her and she didn't give her much affection.
	Also taking responsibility before the details slip away to impossible to review and take that responsibility.
	Also taking responsibility before the details slip away.
	I don't know what that means.
	My ex was attractive and love-bombed me.
	I only really understood what was going on from listening to you seven years ago.
	Right. So, you know, narcissists, of course, are characterized by a lack of empathy, exploiting others, grandiosity, and often charm, right?
	Do you know what the general advice is?
	Not my advice.
	Do you know what the general advice is for mental health professionals if you have a narcissist in your life?
	Do you know what the general advice is?
	Yes, GTFO, run away, get the F away, run away as fast as possible.
	But what if it's your mother?
	What if it's your mother?
	What if it's a direct parent family member?
	Yeah, get away.
	What if it's a family member you have a multi-million dollar business with
	and it's going to cost you millions of dollars to walk away?
	Thank you.
	You still walk away. You don't communicate with them in any way, shape, or form.
	Again, not my advice.
	This is a mental health professional and expert in the field.
	And he says that this is what everyone says.
	Now, it doesn't help me 15 years ago.
	But he says that if you have a narcissist, the only way you should ever communicate with them is through liars.
	So this is somebody posted this at freedomain.locals.com and I listened to it.
	He says it's everyone. Doesn't matter if it's your child or anyone.
	Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
	Now, of course, if it's your child, you still have to look in the mirror and say, what did you do as a parent that may have ended up that way?
	Yeah, because the only other strategy is threats.
	You can, like if the grandiose narcissist says, oh, I went to work and there's a huge problem and I solved it in like five minutes because everyone around me is just an idiot and you say, wait, hang on, it took you five minutes?
	Why on earth would you take you five minutes?
	I thought you were a genius. Wouldn't a genius have solved it in 30 seconds?
	Why are you so slow? You just write, you start manipulating them.
	You start manipulating them, and then what happens, right?
	Or you become super boring, or you find a common enemy that you can both ally against, usually a mother-in-law or whatever, right?
	So if you have a narcissist in your life, the absolute recommendation is get away, never talk to them again, block them on your phone, cut them off completely, and then there's a number of other strategies.
	But do you know what the danger is?
	If you start trying to manage someone who's a narcissist, do you know what the danger is?
	It's great rocking as well.
	You just become really bland and really boring.
	The problem with trying to manage somebody who's crazy is that every strategy that you use to manage a crazy person makes you more crazy.
	So every strategy, and this guy points it out, every strategy that you use to manage the narcissist is using the tools of a narcissist.
	So you have to become a narcissist and have those ruinous manipulative tools in order to manage a narcissist, right?
	Somebody says the fact that it's now mainstream to say that you don't have to have toxic people in your life is why I'm
	optimistic about the future.
	I think we're coming out of a second dark age.
	Well, and it's funny, too, because, I mean, what this guy says, like, run away, block them.
	If your mother, even more important, perhaps, never have contact with them except through lawyers if you have to.
	I mean, that's way further than anything I ever said.
	I just said you don't have to have abusive people in your life.
	This guy's like you in order to stay sane.
	He says walk away for millions of dollars.
	It doesn't matter. Because you will be hollowed out.
	You will be eaten alive from the inside out.
	You will lose your capacity to pair bond, to love, to trust yourself, to have any kind of happiness.
	I think it's Sam.
	So, somebody who blames others...
	Is lying to you.
	So the reason why...
	So people who are getting divorced have a desperate desire to sit down and talk to you.
	And why do people who are getting divorced want desperately to talk to you about their problems, their relationship issues?
	Why are they so desperate to sit down with you and talk about these things?
	Self-pity. Their conscience.
	Conscience.
	Absolution.
	They want validation of their story to convince you it's not their fault.
	Misery loves company. So they aren't the only divorcee.
	Yeah, well, there's that truth as well.
	Yes, so what they want to do is they want to suck you into their victimhood.
	They want you to agree with their victimhood.
	And what happens, I mean, we've all had this experience.
	I mean, of course, we've all hit me with a Y if you've had the experience of you question someone's self-pity and they attack you.
	Yes, everybody's flowing.
	Everybody's flowing. Everything.
	Well, you know, maybe...
	Yeah, right. I knew a woman many years ago who thought her best friend was dating somebody who was not super smart.
	He was like very tall, very good looking, but it wasn't super smart.
	And my friend was asked by her best friend, what do you think of guy X? And she said, I don't know if he exactly has your level of insight.
	That's it, right? Just it.
	Yeah. That's how you know if somebody is lying.
	You're right. They can't take even questions, even mild questions, right?
	Even mild questions.
	They can't take it, right? Victimhood is a form of bullying, right?
	They call the cry bullies, right?
	How dare you question my suffering.
	So somebody who's getting divorced, can't take ownership.
	Now, the reason I asked about the kids is particularly when the kids are involved, right?
	So, let's say that the wife cheats on the husband.
	Now, let's flip it around. Husband cheats on the wife and there's a divorce, right?
	They get divorced. Now, can the wife tell the kids the husband cheated and that's why there's the divorce?
	No. Can she tell the kids that she chose a cheater and that's why there's a divorce?
	No. Can the husband tell the kids, I cheated and that's why there's a divorce, right?
	Nobody can tell the truth about anything.
	And oftentimes, particularly when men are aggressed against, as they generally are more so than women by the family court system, if the woman cheated, the mom cheated, and then the dad divorces her, can he go to the kid?
	And the kids say, why did you and mom separate?
	He says, well, she cheated on me.
	And then the kids go and say, well, daddy says you cheated on him and you get dragged back into court and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
	Somebody says, I ask mild questions about abortion with a former partner.
	I threaten to break up with you.
	Yeah, I mean, censorship occurs much more in the private sphere than the public sphere.
	So yeah, people who are divorcing, what do they have to say?
	What do they have to say?
	Well, they generally say, I tried.
	It's my partner's fault.
	He just wouldn't listen.
	They can't go back to the beginning and say, what did I do wrong from the beginning?
	Is it abuse or lies to tell the kids that dad was looking for a new wife?
	Well, you don't discuss adult issues with little kids, obviously, right?
	So you can wait till they get older, right?
	But, you know, try not to have relationships that you have to lie through your teeth to your kids about.
	You know, that's just a general thing that I have in the world.
	You know, just try having relationships, not just partnerships, but friendships or whatever, right?
	Try not to have relationships that you have to lie through your teeth to your kids about.
	I mean, that's pretty important.
	So, what do people say?
	Right, so this was a woman talking to a female friend.
	So, tell me, what is your female friend saying about why she's getting divorced?
	Because if you want to know why you're breaking up, You have to go back to your childhood.
	Right? You have to go back to your childhood.
	Why was I susceptible to a violent man?
	Why was I susceptible to a violent woman or manipulative woman or a man or whatever, right?
	Well, because if your childhood goes all the way back, it goes like to figure out why you ended up in a destructive relationship and does absolutely everything about your life.
	Trust me, I know this one.
	Oh, she says, we were very young, never been with anyone else, no experience.
	But no, that's why they got together.
	Why are they getting... Oh, that's from somebody else, right?
	Yeah, so what's...
	So, if you're very young, never been with anyone else, no experience, then you shouldn't break up.
	Because if you are both virgins when you meet or have had very few boyfriends or girlfriends,
	then your odds of divorce are virtually zero.
	It was like the proctologist in Seinfeld who's always saying,
	the excuses that people have is why they got things stuck up their ass.
	One in a million, shot dog!
	One in a million! It's like, nope, you were inserting something up there for some weird sexual pleasure.
	There's a job I couldn't do.
	There's a job I couldn't do.
	She said her husband was mentally abusive.
	Right. And I assume since she's got kids in her 30s that her husband had been mentally abusive and Fell on a flashlight in the shower again.
	She said her husband was mentally abusive.
	Okay. And does she assume, does she say that she was a good wife and he was just a bad husband?
	Is that her story? How many of us get the chance to process childhood trauma before marriage?
	You nearly married the wrong woman.
	Right! That's because shows like this weren't around to wake people the hell up.
	She accepted no responsibility for the marital breakdown.
	Right.
	And that lack of responsibility will cause you to dissociate.
	So, GM, do you think she has any responsibility for the marital breakdown?
	And a breakdown is like...
	Breakdown is like...
	Yeah, so what are you going to do?
	Are you going to tell her... No, you have responsibility for the breakdown.
	I won't, like, I can't accept this.
	Don't be around people you have to stifle yourself around.
	Oh, my God. That's just horrible to me.
	Don't be around people you have to stifle yourself around.
	I mean, there are enough prisons in the world.
	You don't have to fashion your own cell bars from the intolerant bones of the empty-headed around you.
	Hello. Hello, Sammy.
	Nice to meet you. Guy at work said he felt just like me seven years into marriage and the wife just randomly turned crazy.
	I just laughed. Yeah, no, it's not random.
	It's not random. I mean, for men, we know.
	Why do you get together with crazy girls, right?
	As men, why do you get together with crazy girls?
	We know this one, right? Come on, tell me.
	Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me.
	Why do you get together with crazy girls?
	Yeah, for the V, hot crazy matrix, sex, sex, good sex.
	Right. Heart for the heart for the heart, right?
	Now, if someone, and people say, well, I didn't know, I was inexperienced.
	That's all nonsense. That's all nonsense.
	If someone asks you, as a young man, should you go for an unstable woman who puts out, or a good woman with sexual restraint?
	Right? Should you go for sexual access with a dangerous woman or should you date a woman who's got some self-respect and self-esteem who puts out...
	You know.
	Everybody knows you should go for quality of character over size of ass or whatever is your thing.
	Everybody knows that. This is not unknown.
	Everybody knows this.
	So you know you're doing the wrong thing.
	You know you're doing the wrong thing.
	Young men think with their dicks.
	Right, and everybody knows that young men are very horny, and so society, of course, but young men, right?
	I've told that story where I was going to ask the girl to the dance because I liked her body, and everybody was laughing at me because she was just not a very nice person or whatever, and I mean, everybody knows that.
	And I knew I had to say, people say, well, why do you like her, right?
	And it's like, well, her personality, I don't know.
	I mean, I knew I was lying.
	I was 12. Come on, guys.
	We know. We know we shouldn't.
	We know we shouldn't. It's not a mystery.
	We know we shouldn't. We know for absolute certain that we shouldn't.
	I mean, this was helpful in the past where lust was categorized as a sin.
	The one with the donkey laugh. Yeah, yeah.
	Actually, don't insult donkeys, man.
	That's not fair. It's not their fault.
	Any way someone can know if they're ready to marry, yeah, you can't do better.
	Dr. Laura said the number one thing men do to mess up their lives, rescuing the damsel in distress.
	You end up with a distressed damsel, not a healthy, equal life of partner.
	But rescuing the damsel in distress, and do you know where the rescuing comes from?
	Do you know why do men want to rescue you?
	Why do men want to rescue women?
	Rescue mom? Maybe a little bit more.
	White knight? Yeah, well...
	Yeah, gratitude, sex.
	The reason that men want to rescue women is to feel superior.
	So if you... Like, what value do you bring to a woman, right?
	What value do you bring to a woman?
	Now, what value do you bring to a strong, healthy, intelligent, virtuous, courageous woman?
	What value do you have to bring to a virtuous woman?
	What value do you have to bring to a virtuous woman?
	Yeah, virtue. Exactly right, Mike.
	Exactly right. You have to bring virtue.
	You have to bring virtue, integrity, courage, responsibility.
	You have to be a mature person yourself, right?
	Those things are hard to achieve and maintain.
	Hard to achieve, easy to maintain.
	It's like weight, right? Hard to achieve, easy to maintain.
	So if you find some broken woman, you don't have to be a good man.
	You just have to be helpful.
	You just have to be her savior, right?
	So you don't have to be good. It's a way of avoiding morality.
	Dipping down to the broken woman brigade is a way of avoiding morality.
	It's a way of avoiding the responsibility to be good.
	I mean, right? And then people blame the woman.
	It's like, no, you're the one who chose to avoid the need for virtue by dating someone who just needed your resources.
	Am I wrong? Tell me I'm wrong.
	I could be wrong. I don't think so.
	So you pick her because she's broken and then you want to fix her.
	She knows she has to stay broken to keep your interest.
	Because here's the thing. So if you find a broken woman and you date a broken woman, you have sex with her, she's broken, let's say you fix her.
	Right? Let's say you fix her and she becomes a virtuous, kind, wise, moral woman.
	right? What's she gonna do with you? Everyone knows the answer to this.
	Let's say you fix her.
	What's she gonna do with you?
	Yeah, she's gonna dump you.
	Of course. Of course.
	And that's why, so that the men who date broken women and complain that the women never get fixed, boy, you want to get a real complaint?
	You want to get a real complaint?
	The woman who does get fixed and then says, so she becomes moral, she becomes virtuous, moral, and she looks at you like, ew, you're just pillaging the refuse.
	Seems I have, I'm having a weakness being attracted to females who are unwell.
	Now A, I have no shot. B, realize what they are and stay clear.
	1 to 10, how much value am I providing?
	We've got what I've been doing in 38 minutes, right?
	One to ten how much value I'm providing Wow ten lots of tens here
	I'm providing a copy maximum value.
	And funny, yeah. Value greater than the U.S. debt.
	Well, let's not get crazy here.
	Oh, by the way, if you're a subscriber on this platform, you can get my truth about the Wild West.
	I just recorded it today.
	Nine, I'm using this life 100%.
	All right, why am I asking how much value I'm providing, my friends?
	Why am I asking how much value I'm providing?
	You know the answer to this one, too.
	Why am I providing?
	Why am I asking? Thank you!
	Because I was getting no tips.
	You're the funniest, greatest waiter I've ever had.
	The bill is $300.
	Here's $300. Just reminding you, in my own inimitable fashion, that if I'm providing value and saving your butt, in some ways, because of my own hard-won experience, right, tips are most gratefully.
	Appreciate it. I'm tipping next week double.
	Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Truth about the Wild West?
	Yeah, it was a lot of fun. A lot of fun doing the research, and it was a nice break from the Peaceful Parenting book, so.
	Yeah, you can get it at freedomain.locals.com.
	Again, you can sign up for free.
	Use the promo code, all caps, UPB2022, and you will be fine.
	You will enjoy it, and you can try it out for free.
	See if you like it. So, yeah, people who are getting divorced, they have to make up some nonsense that they're the victim, that there's something wrong with men, or divorce, and they would try to poison you with your self-justifications, and you will dissociate.
	Right? Give me this, what's the number of minutes you've sat listening to someone, wanting to tell them the truth, and biting your tongue?
	What's the longest, how many minutes have you sat across from someone, knowing they're lying their teeth off, probably to themselves first, wanting to tell them the truth?
	I'm biting your tongue. In the past years, it's tough, right?
	The whole date sometimes?
	Feels like time has stopped when that happens.
	I shut it to count. Long time.
	Waste of life. Zero, I'm a bad tongue-biter.
	Many years ago when I was a teenager, I was making out with some girl at a disco.
	My friends came up and said, you were just completely ignoring us.
	And I said, sorry, I was a little tongue-tied.
	It's kind of true. I loved it when the couple of great dance songs back there, Billy Idol's Dancing with Myself, we used to love that one, and Burning Down the House by The Talking Heads was fantastic.
	And Depeche Mode, who I saw twice live in concert, Just Can't Get Enough, also a great song.
	Playing a little tonsil hockey.
	Oh, anytime I talk to someone who thinks they believe in socialism.
	Right. So, do you know what the purpose of bullshit is?
	The purpose of lying to someone is Is what?
	To get them to believe you.
	That's right. That's kind of circular.
	What is the purpose of lying to someone?
	To not talk about the things that matter?
	Nope. Because you can talk about the weather.
	You don't have to lie. To control you?
	To hide things, it's an isolation tactic to get their resources deceptive if someone is susceptible to BS. Assert dominance!
	Ooh, I got goosebumps on my left knee, yes.
	Yeah, it's a dominance play.
	So the reason that people lie to you is to find out if you're scared of them.
	Do you follow? To find out if you're frightened of them.
	Because why would you not tell the truth to someone?
	Why would you not tell the truth to someone?
	You would not tell the truth to someone because you're scared of them.
	Right? I mean, the king can tell the truth to the subject.
	Can the subject tell the truth to the king?
	And Louis XII had a fool, like a comedian, right?
	And the comedian grabbed the king's ass Which was horrifying, terrifying.
	And the king, this is a true story, the king said to his jester, to his fool, he said, I'm putting you to death for that.
	You touched the king's ass.
	I'm putting you to death for that.
	Unless you can come up with an excuse or a defense that's even more offensive.
	And the fool said, oh, I'm so sorry, your majesty.
	It was my mistake.
	When I grabbed your ass, I thought you were the queen.
	Now, this obviously was more offensive.
	He got a brief reprieve until the king remembered that it was illegal for him to make jokes, for the jester to make jokes at the queen's expense.
	So he said, no, that's it.
	You insulted the queen.
	You will be put to death.
	But because of your years of loyal service and making me laugh, you can choose the manner of your own death.
	You choose the manner of your own death.
	I will fulfill and respect your request.
	So what did the jester say?
	He said, Your Majesty, I choose to die of old age.
	And the king of course had to recognize that it was funny, so he just banished him instead.
	So when people lie to you, they are asserting dominance.
	Thank you.
	.
	When someone lies to you, One person absolutely is going to get humiliated.
	Do you follow? When someone lies to you, one person is going to get humiliated no matter what.
	Right? We agree on that, right?
	So if someone lies to you, and let's say you're in public or whatever.
	It's a little easier to see when you're in public.
	If Bob lies to you, And Bob says he's dating a supermodel.
	And you know Bob isn't.
	And you're in public. And you say to Bob, that's a total lie.
	No, it's a lie. This is like the Canadian girlfriend you had when you were 17.
	No, it's a lie. You're not dating.
	You're not dating a supermodel.
	Then Bob is humiliated, right?
	But... But...
	If you don't correct Bob and you swallow that, then Bob has asserted dominance over you and you're humiliated.
	So lies mean that there's a bull loose and it's going to take down someone.
	Steve says, I got separated and wouldn't say a bad thing about my ex-wife when I went out
	with my friends, mainly because I was embarrassed by what I'd been putting up with for the last
	eight years.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Also because I was afraid I'd get back together with her and my friends would learn, would know the extent of my shame.
	Learned my lessons and have been with a virtuous woman for the last 10 years.
	What I had been putting up with.
	What I had been putting up with.
	That's a passive statement.
	And I, you know, I'm very glad that you were there, but you...
	No. You don't put up with...
	Look, if you're born into an abusive family, you put up with the violence from your parents.
	You have no choice about that, right?
	You have to put up with that.
	But you pursued and wed, right?
	This is what I'm... You don't put up like...
	putting up with this victim statement.
	You pursued and wooed and wed.
	it.
	.
	There's no putting up. If you want the most power in your life, give no one else your free will.
	You follow me? Hoard it like a miser.
	Every bit of control, every bit of decision-making.
	It's all you.
	Give nothing away.
	I mean, it's tempting to give things away, of course, because you feel like then you can play the victim and so on, right?
	And I would say a little bit more particularly if you're a male.
	If you're a male, giving away your free will is to some degree effeminizing your soul.
	And that's fine for women.
	Yeah, I picked her and I paid for it.
	Yeah. Well, and of course it certainly is the case that everyone around you let it happen.
	Or maybe encouraged it to happen.
	But you picked all the people around you.
	You know, when I almost married the wrong woman, I had to look around, 360, swivel head up, down, everywhere.
	I had to look all around, like some chameleon with nine-dimensional eyes.
	And I had to say, everyone around me participated in this disaster, but everyone is around me because of my choices.
	My sister tried to stop me and I ignored her.
	Well, how far did she go?
	Did she come to the wedding? Steve, did she come to the wedding?
	Did she continue to have a relationship with you?
	She came to the wedding? Yeah, of course she did, right?
	Would you go to the wedding of someone who was marrying a crazy person?
	Would you have anything to do?
	Like, I don't know what it is where people, like, they won't just put everything on the line.
	Have you ever seen the show Intervention?
	Have you ever seen this show? Hit me with a Y. If you've ever seen the show, Intervention, right?
	Such good stuff here!
	Thanks, Josh. Personal accountability all the way down.
	Wow, wild to think back.
	It was really only one member in my family who expressed worry about who I was dating.
	Ahhh...
	drug and alcohol addictions.
	Hey Steph, I think I need to possibly do a call in, but it is possible to fully recover from early life crimes and
	Recovery doesn't feel permanent and relapse always feels like a battle.
	I'm happy to do a call-in show.
	I mean, whatever philosophy can do to help, I'm certainly happy.
	Just call in at freedomain.com and thank you for the tip.
	Okay, so in the show Intervention, Just a sort of very brief study.
	Very brief synopsis. It's worth watching these shows.
	I would strongly recommend this show, Intervention.
	I've only seen, I don't know, six or seven of them over the course of my life, but they're worth it because that's commitment.
	That's commitment to a relationship.
	So what happens is some guy's an alcoholic or some woman's a drug addict or something like that, and people, they work with a therapist usually, and they sit down, they get the person in, and everyone's sitting around, friends, family, everyone that the alcoholism or addiction is affecting.
	And one by one they go around and they say, here's how your addiction is affecting me negatively.
	And then they, what do they say?
	What do they say after everyone has said, what's happened?
	If you've seen this, what do they say?
	What do people say? Oh yeah, we all know.
	What do they say? Sorry, everyone's typing at once, so I'm going to wait for this to come in.
	You know what? You guys are so great to have here, and I really appreciate you coming by.
	So just while we're waiting here, I will give you the Wild West presentation.
	It's just audio at the moment.
	I think I got tired of doing the blue screen, and I kind of got to follow my instincts here.
	So what I did instead...
	I just did the audio.
	You don't know what they say?
	Yeah. Here's the audio.
	You can listen to this later. Truth about the Wild West.
	Okay. So, Josh, what they say is, if you don't go right now, this very moment, to get help, to go to rehab, not just to, oh, I'll get therapy next week, or to leave right now with this specialist to go into full-time rehab, I'm done. We're all done with you.
	We'll have nothing to do with you ever anymore in the future.
	Right? Now some people say yes.
	Most people say yes. I don't know if it's because the film is on or maybe they don't release the shows where people don't say yes.
	But everyone says yes.
	Right? So do you know what it means to truly care about someone?
	So let's say your best friend is dating someone A girl who's wrong for him.
	What do you do? You really care about this guy.
	He's dating a girl who's wrong for him, who's dangerous, who's crazy.
	Show that you care?
	it's a bit generic what do you do enabler bad behavior or not I'll
	Ultimatum. What do you do?
	Warn and offer? Yeah, that's helpful.
	But that's not the most powerful thing you can do.
	Offer support? No, that's passive.
	Move heaven and earth to persuade him?
	That's helpful. Ostracize?
	Collect others to convince him as well?
	Show him the truth? We're all so avoidant, aren't we?
	Choose her or me. Well, that's an ultimatum for sure and that could be helpful.
	But that's not the thing.
	Oh, lively garden!
	You have got it.
	Now that's the friend you need.
	Liberty Garden is your best friend in the universe.
	Give homage to him.
	Have you done this? I've done this.
	Have you done this? Yeah, you trigger her in front of him.
	Right? Do you follow?
	People who don't learn by reason have to learn by experience.
	Right? So you are just honest with her, you direct with her, and you don't get bullied, and you don't get cowed, and you don't back down, and you don't bite your tongue.
	You confront her in front of him.
	You follow? It's direct.
	It's direct. You need empirical evidence for your decisions, and the best way to get empirical evidence is to confront people.
	Does this make sense? Hit me with a Y if this makes sense to you.
	I want to make sure we're being direct and clear.
	So, do you not, though sometimes dangerous, how is it dangerous?
	Do it in a public place.
	How do you trigger someone?
	You're dishonest. Like that manager you got fired by triggering him in front of the board.
	Yeah. I mean, you don't, you know...
	Slip them a mickey or anything.
	You're just honest and direct. You did get bitten.
	Sorry. There's a band called...
	I've never even heard the song, but I remember when I was a radio DJ in college.
	I had a radio show when I was in college.
	And somewhere I've got an audio tape of that radio show.
	I remember playing Talk, Talk, It's My Life and a whole bunch of other songs.
	And in that radio show they had...
	Oh, gosh. If anybody ever knows this, it's a completely ridiculous thing.
	I think of once or twice a year. I used to take home records because this huge record collection.
	The devil take your stereo and your record collection.
	And I used to have this great big record collection.
	I'd bring records home and listen to them and just get into different kinds of music.
	There was a guy incredibly long hair.
	He had squatting in this medieval way at a brown courtyard.
	And I don't remember the name of the album, but one of the songs was like, baby, it's getting too heavy for us to date, and it just went on and on and on.
	And his hair was like really long and blonde and swept around him in a courtyard.
	He was kneeling down. I think it was with a guitar or something like that.
	Anyway, it wasn't a great album or anything like that, but I do remember that.
	And... Oh, what the hell was I talking about?
	Oh, so... It'll come back to me.
	It'll come back to me. I bet.
	So yeah, you don't provoke someone.
	You just tell the truth and you just direct.
	Just honest, right? I have concerns.
	I'm concerned about this. I'm concerned about that.
	Tell me about your childhood. I'm looking out for my boy.
	You're helpful. You get direct.
	You're direct. My best friend's wife tried to murder-suicide him in a winter storm while driving.
	I couldn't make him see the light.
	What the hell are you doing, Ben?
	Best friends with a lunatic like this.
	Dude. I'm telling you.
	I'm sure that this is all in the past tense.
	Yeah, she almost made him see the light.
	Right. My best friend's wife tried to...
	What are you doing friends with these people?
	Yeah, five years ago.
	Jesus. Um...
	So let me ask you this. Do you game out conflict?
	Do you do this? I'm going to give you a super great life tip here.
	I'm still standing.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right?
	So I've done some pretty controversial stuff in my day.
	Still standing. Do you game things out?
	Do you game things out? Game things out is see what the blowback or response is going to be to what you do.
	Right? This is one of the biggest life tips I can give you.
	Game things out. You do game things out?
	Yeah? Okay. So for those of you who don't game things out, here's what you do, right?
	So let's say you've got a friend, Bob, but he's dating a girl.
	Sally, you think Sally's crazy and bad for Bob, right?
	So our temptation is to say very little and hope that Bob sees the light.
	That's passive and pathetic and not worthy of the title friendship.
	You've got to watch each other's backs, right?
	Because we're all consumed by lust and distractions and everyday momentary things, right?
	So, our second temptation, which everyone has here, is to go and talk to Bob and say, oh, I don't think it's the right woman, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
	That's the second layer. Now, The third layer is to go real strong with Bob and say, listen, I'm not going to watch you do this.
	You go down the road with this woman.
	I'm out. I care about you too much to watch you.
	Like, I would no more watch this relationship than I'd watch you slowly stick your hand into a wood chipper.
	Like, I'm not going to do it. It's horrible to me.
	And then the level of true friendship is when you sit down with Bob and Sally and you just ask her direct questions.
	Tell me about your childhood. Tell me about your history.
	I've heard this from Bob. You've got to pass my vetting.
	I've known Bob for a lot longer than you have and you've got to answer these questions.
	And then you watch her just freak out and blow up and get upset and yell and storm out or whatever it is, right?
	Now now let's game it out Thank you.
	Sally storms out, taking her vagina with her, right?
	Sally storms out. And what happens then, right?
	Where does it go from there? Where do we go from here?
	It's back to the lake I fear.
	It's one of those annoying 80s songs.
	So, what happens there?
	What happens from there? Bob is pissed at you then?
	Yeah, I get that. So what?
	Who cares, right? Friendship is about more than just the moment, right?
	So what happens if Bob breaks up with her?
	Great. Then you've got to sit with Bob and figure out how Bob ended up in that situation.
	And then you have to sit down with yourself and say, why am I friends with somebody who makes bad decisions?
	It comes back to you, right?
	Bob then has a choice.
	Guys, guys, game it out.
	Game it out. Let's say Bob doesn't break up with Sally, right?
	What happens then? What happens then?
	Game it out. He breaks up with you.
	Yeah. Why does Bob break up with you, Manuel?
	Yeah, Sally will boot you out.
	Yeah, for sure. I can't believe what he did to me in public.
	He's just terrible. I can't stand him.
	He humiliated me. How can you be friends with such a person?
	Vagina. Right?
	So Sally sees she's kicking you out of the nest, right?
	In which case, problem solved.
	But problem solved with honor!
	Don't let problems get solved through passivity.
	Have your problems get solved with honor.
	De-platforming for me was honor.
	Because I said what was essential to be said and let other people make their decisions.
	So if Bob is so enslaved to Sally's crazy for JJ, then he's going to cut contact with you.
	In which case, he's choosing crazy over virtue.
	With full knowledge, full empirical knowledge of how crazy she is, right?
	So, you're sorted, right?
	I mean, I'm not saying it's easy, but you now don't have to watch slow motion dick in a blender decapitation, right?
	All right. Good friend of years.
	Do you watch out for each other?
	Do you not? And can you be friends?
	Freedom when they refuse to listen.
	Even God will not touch agency.
	You have to choose for your own life.
	Yes. So the purpose of friendship is to deliver as vivid a moral lesson as humanly possible to everyone.
	As vivid a moral lesson as humanly possible to everyone.
	So when you challenge Sally, Sally will attempt to assert dominance over Bob by isolating him from you.
	Because if you've got tough questions of Sally, and Sally is a good woman, if you've got tough questions for Sally, and Sally is a good woman, what will she do?
	Sally's a good woman, you've got tough questions for her, what will Sally do?
	Go right along, take responsibility.
	Not yet. No, you guys are neutral.
	What will a good woman do if you have tough questions for her?
	Answer, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's neutral, right?
	She would also do that with neutral questions.
	No, you guys aren't there.
	Sorry to be annoying. Tell me more.
	It's more than that!
	What will a good woman do If her boyfriend's best friend vets her thoroughly, she will thank you.
	That's absolutely right.
	I respect you.
	I thank you. My estimation of my boyfriend, Bob, goes up enormously because you're grilling me.
	This is exactly what I do with my girlfriends.
	When they date someone new, you're looking out for your boy.
	Fantastic. She will thank and appreciate you.
	Do you follow? You should not have fear in confronting Sally.
	Right? Because Sally will thank you.
	Sally will appreciate you.
	Sally will respect you.
	Sally will treasure you. Sally will value you.
	Because she should be vetted.
	Everyone should be vetted. Of course, we're adults, not kids.
	Everyone should be vetted. So, if Sally storms out, gets angry, how dare you?
	All this pathetic, stupid, volcano, imitation of outrage, manipulative crap.
	She storms out.
	Yeah, Sally will think higher of Bob that he has a virtuous friend.
	Of course. Of course.
	She won't storm out.
	She'll give you a hug.
	Might even cop a feel. No, I'm just kidding.
	Sally's a good girl. Yeah, she'll thank you.
	Come on. Come on.
	Of course she will. Of course she will.
	So if she storms out, it's because she has something to hide.
	And she's not even hiding it anymore.
	If somebody asks me the truth, I will run away.
	If somebody asks me for facts, if somebody confronts me, if Bob's friend really shows that he cares about Bob, I will punish everyone involved.
	I don't want Bob to have a good friend around, right?
	Last thing I want is for Bob to have a good friend around who's accurate at identifying dysfunction.
	Do you think people really expect to be vetted like that?
	Seems weird, no? I think it's philosophically sound, but 99% of people will think you're a weirdo, and your philosophical gene sets die.
	Sorry, Dan. Would you rather...
	Let's say you're right.
	I don't think you're right, but let's say you're right.
	Would you rather a 99% chance of death or a 100% chance of death?
	If you have that choice.
	Right? You're going down in a plane.
	You're over water. Are you going down with the plane into the side of a mountain or are you going to jump in the water?
	Well, you know, I might not survive the jump in the water.
	Well, you're certainly not going to survive the plane crash.
	Right? Right? Can't swim?
	Even if you can't swim, you're still better off.
	So... Let's say you're right.
	99% of people think that trying to find out if someone is trustworthy...
	Would you hear what you're saying?
	Do you think... Do you hear what you're saying?
	You're saying that most...
	Like 99% of people...
	Never expect to be vetted?
	Hate being vetted? Think it's weird to try and figure out if someone can be trustworthy?
	So what that tells me, Dan, what that tells me is that you're surrounded by some seriously shitty people.
	So you're thinking 99% of people, let me tell you, Dan, love you to death.
	This is with the very best of intentions.
	Everyone says people.
	Do you know what they really mean? Everyone says people, the world.
	Do you know what they really mean? Do you know what I mean?
	People are untrustworthy.
	People betray you. 99% of people will hate you for being vetted.
	They're not talking about people.
	They're talking about their people.
	You're talking about your tribe.
	You're talking about the people in your life.
	Now you want to take the people in your life and extrapolate them to all of humanity.
	Why do you want to take the people in your life and extrapolate them to all of humanity?
	Why? Why do you want to do that?
	Why? Why?
	So that you don't have to raise your standards.
	So you don't have to raise your standards.
	That's why you don't want to think that there are better people out there.
	So do you know who's saying to you 99% of people can't handle tough questions and never want to be vetted so you don't leave your shitty tribe and find a better place?
	That's all. Tell me I'm wrong.
	It's like those idiots who say, you know, we're just not impressed with this video.
	It's like, how many people are in there?
	You say we because you can't just say I. Seth, what you did was ridiculous and foolish.
	Like they're trying to attach some objective label.
	Like, hey man, don't shoot the messenger and I'm telling you the facts.
	And all they're doing is telling you about themselves.
	That's all they're doing. Women are like this.
	Okay, the women in your life are like this.
	Men are like this. Well, okay, the men in your life are like this.
	People are like this. Okay, the people in your life are like this?
	You know there's racist there's sexist This is shittist. This is shittism.
	Shittism is projecting the shitty people around you to everyone.
	And then saying, well, this is the best that there is.
	Shitism. Bigotry against people who aren't shitty.
	Oh, Steph just made the light bulb come off above my head.
	Thank you, sir. You're very welcome.
	You're very welcome. Now, nobody's talking about the world.
	They're just talking about their shitty or great or wonderful or indifferent or mediocre circle.
	Women can't handle the truth.
	Okay, the women in your life can't handle the truth.
	I got it. Men are insensitive jerks.
	Okay, the men in your life that you choose and some you don't necessarily, they're all insensitive jerks.
	Okay, dude, everyone thinks that they're describing the world, they're just trying to normalize the shitty people around them, right?
	If we don't use X policy, people will do bad things.
	You mean you and the lousy people would do bad things?
	Okay, I was still clear of you and them, right?
	Yeah, so people who say, well, without the government, people would just rape, killage, murder, steal.
	Killage is kill plus pillage, just in case you were wondering.
	Oh, without the government, everybody would just do shitty things.
	It's like, okay, so you have no commitment to virtue and you're only restrained by negative consequences from doing terrible things.
	You have no conscience, no soul, no honor, no dignity, no morality.
	Thank you! Like anybody who's not at least curious about anarcho-capitalism is simply confessing that they're a cannibal and waiting, hoping to crash in the Andes.
	Boy, there's a Peruvian soccer team reference from many, many decades ago.
	Paula says I listened a couple nights ago.
	Boy, that was a great show. I actually listened to that.
	I wanted to cut out the first...
	I ended up cutting off the first seven minutes of the show on Wednesday.
	So Thursday, I played a little Diablo 4, and I was listening to me do the show.
	So good. So good.
	I mean, I think it's great when I'm doing it, but afterwards, I'm like, it's even better than I remember.
	So she says... I listened a couple nights ago.
	You discussed what people say when you announced you completed a book.
	I was working on my first video at the time.
	I was afraid I would become one of those people who say, I have a great idea for a book slash video also.
	I've overcame excuses and completed the first video.
	Beautiful. It's only one minute, but it is complete.
	Hey, there's nothing wrong with completing in a minute.
	That's just men as a whole, right?
	Because I'm not doing shittism.
	I'm just talking about men as a whole, like the patriarchy.
	Where the hell were we? Something about my radio show in college.
	Oh, I don't know. No excuses, thank you.
	Well I appreciate that Paula, that's excellent.
	Took home records, I really did.
	I brought them back. I just steal them.
	I can't remember what the hell I was talking about with regards to that.
	But, you know, it'll come back to me at three o'clock in the morning and I'll just start another stream then.
	All right.
	Somebody else had a question.
	Man, I keep wanting to turn the fan on in here because it's really freaking hot.
	Oh, who needs to see my pit stains?
	I'm like doing philosophy like I'm trapped in the salt mines of Kessel.
	Uh, Steph, what are some tips to find your passion?
	In the last show, you mentioned, I'm paraphrasing, that in order for you to complete something, it needs to grab you by the balls.
	Any tips to find something to grab you by the balls?
	Hit me with a Y if you'd like to grab this person by the balls.
	I assume he means billiard balls.
	Is that right? I think something like that.
	Because, you know, then you'll just follow that person.
	Especially if they have one of those robot clamp arms.
	No? Guys, don't be so negative.
	You might have very nice balls.
	They could be stress balls, right?
	I know that when I'm stressed and in public...
	Anyway, that's a topic for another time.
	So... Hit me from a zero to ten how passionate you are about your life and its purpose.
	Hate me with a zero to ten how passionate you are about your life and its purpose.
	Just be honest. There's no point faking anything here.
	Nobody's getting marked, right?
	And we got a scattering We got a scattering. Right.
	Okay. Here's a couple of vetting questions.
	I can get you guys to 10 if you want.
	You won't like it. You won't like it, and you won't like me for how to get there, but I can get you to 10 if you want, but I don't know if you want that.
	I just... I don't know if you want it.
	I'll get you to 10. You can be at 10 tonight if you want.
	Yeah, everybody's saying they want it, and then nobody wants it.
	All right, I'll make you a deal, because this is going to be a lot of energy.
	I'm a little tired from all my work today, but I'll summon the energy.
	Hit me with a Y if you give me a tip if I get you to a 10.
	If I don't get you to a 10, you don't have to tip me.
	Hit me with a Y if you give me a tip if I get you to a 10.
	Because just a couple of questions, I can get you there.
	Fair deal? It's a fair deal, isn't it?
	If I can get your life jump-started to the point where you've got a 10 in terms of passion.
	And again, don't tip me if I don't get you there.
	I'm like a happy ending massage parlor.
	Don't tip me if I don't get you there.
	Got to buy some coins real quick.
	It's payday. Right.
	The payolers. You've got the eyes of a stranger.
	I'm an easy robber. Do you take an IOU? For real?
	No, I don't take an IOU, but you can just set a reminder.
	If you get some money later, you can just do a reminder.
	Okay, this is going to be the last part of the show.
	Hit me with a why if you're ready to get to a 10.
	Deal! And remember, you said you would tip afterwards.
	If I get you there, I can get you there.
	All right. Couple of questions to vet you to the ten.
	Do you prefer, all other things being equal, a shorter pleasure or a longer pleasure?
	Do you prefer a shorter pleasure Or a longer pleasure?
	Longer. Yeah, we prefer longer pleasures.
	I know this sounds a bit retarded, right?
	But be patient with me.
	So, longer pleasure, right?
	Do you prefer a pleasure that is greater in the number of people it gives pleasure to?
	Do you prefer more people to have pleasure or just for yourself?
	People or just yourself?
	Yeah, you prefer more people.
	To have pleasure. So you want longer pleasure.
	You want more pleasure.
	So put some desensitizing lotion on your dick and join an orgy.
	Alright, you can tip me now.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	All right, we're just kidding.
	So you want longer pleasure, and you want more people to experience the pleasure, right?
	Right.
	Now, do you prefer pleasures that in the long run come without a downside or that come with a downside?
	Like you get drunk, it's fun, you crash, right?
	You have a... I don't know, you masturbate, maybe you feel guilty afterwards or kind of shameful or tired or whatever it is, right?
	So you want something that comes without a downside, right?
	Right. Now, is there a limit...
	On how long the pleasure should last before it is bad, right?
	I mean, in case your philosophy boner lasts for more than 40 years, call a doctor.
	Is there a limit on how long the pleasure can go before it becomes bad?
	No, there isn't.
	Because a longer pleasure that turns bad is not a longer pleasure, right?
	So it would be nice if it just went on and on and on, right?
	Now, I'm just making my notes here to make sure I cover off all these bases because apparently I can't remember what I did at a college radio show.
	So, it's better if it's longer.
	Now, what is the longest unit of time that pleasure can create and last?
	What is the longest unit of time that pleasure can last?
	Oh! Oh!
	Here's where we have hit our hiccup.
	What is the longest length of time that pleasure can last?
	Michael is right there, baby!
	you 61 seconds.
	Let me just go back to figure out when the fapping started.
	Well, the answer as to how long pleasure can last is eternity.
	is eternity.
	How is it eternity?
	how is it eternity? How is it eternity that pleasure can last?
	Yeah, passed down from generation to generation.
	.
	Have you been happier since Wednesday night if you were here for the show about...
	No excuses.
	Have you been happier since then?
	Will that happiness, to some degree or another, last for the rest of your life?
	Assuming you remember it and work on it a little bit here and there, right?
	Yeah. Now, if you have children, if you have children, will you tell them about No Excuses?
	Of course.
	So I said something Wednesday night, it's now Friday night, 48 hours.
	Yeah, almost exactly 48 hours, right?
	So 48 hours. It's going to last the rest of your life.
	It's going to pass to your children.
	Your children, finding the power of no excuses, will they tell their children about it?
	Are you with me? What am I talking about, brothers and sisters?
	What am I talking about? Longer pleasure is better.
	The longest pleasure is eternity.
	Virtue is the longest lasting pleasure.
	Self-knowledge, virtue, empowerment, truth, wisdom, whatever, your philosophy is the longest lasting pleasure.
	If I said that the greatest pleasure was to become a brain surgeon, how many of us can become brain surgeons?
	Even though I feel like I've been operating on my cerebellum for the last 40 years, very few of us can become brain surgeons.
	Why else would Solomon ever ask for wisdom?
	Right? Think of Satan.
	Think of Satan.
	Yeah, art, music, really passionate about it, lifelong teaching, others three passions.
	For how long has the pleasure of Beethoven lasted?
	Hundreds and hundreds of years.
	When will Shakespeare no longer bring pleasure?
	It will never happen.
	And if you give me planet being wiped out, I mean, I don't even know what to say.
	That's just ridiculous and cynical and who cares, right?
	So think of Satan.
	Satan, in the desert, takes Jesus to the rooftop of the mountain of the world, right?
	All the world is spread out.
	And he says, everything in the whole world is It can be yours.
	Everything material, everything you see, all the gold, all the kingdoms, all the women, all the power, all the crops, all the buildings, it can all be yours.
	He wishes to unite the ambition of Jesus with the physical.
	He is offering Jesus.
	What? What is he offering Jesus?
	If you're not religious, that's fine.
	Just go with me for the analogy.
	What is he offering Jesus?
	Brother, can you spare me food?
	Give me a drink of wine.
	I've been traveling on this road for such a long, long time.
	No, he's not offering him power.
	He's offering him ownership.
	On a night like this there came a stranger on the road.
	I saw him stumble, heard him fall.
	I helped him with his load.
	But the further that we walked, Well, the heavier it became, and I believe I'd felt the weight of another world.
	So he offered Jesus ownership.
	Does ownership outlive your body?
	No.
	Ownership dies with you.
	When we own something, we say, let's say we buy a house.
	What do we do? We take what?
	We take...
	What's the word?
	What's the word? We take what?
	No, not equity.
	When we move into the house, we take possession!
	Possession! Possession! Possession.
	Demonic possession, material possession.
	The world tempts us with everything that will die with us and we can't be motivated by things which die with us because the longer pleasure is the better pleasure.
	You want stuff.
	You want to own things. You want the latest tablet.
	You want Bugatti.
	Andrew Tate with his devilish offer of Status, money, watches, wealth, babes.
	You want sex, not family and children.
	Sex is momentary.
	Family and children is eternity.
	It's been going on for four billion years.
	It might as well be eternal. Take the stuff.
	Now, Jesus, what did Jesus say?
	You can have the whole planet, the whole planet.
	You can have stuff.
	And he said, no. No.
	I will in fact even give up my life in sacrifice.
	For what? Is Jesus dead?
	Did Jesus die?
	Or if you prefer, did Plato die?
	Did Aristotle, Socrates, Marcus Aurelius?
	Did they die? Hell no!
	Now, when you possess something, let's talk underpants.
	Because it's been a while since we've talked underpants.
	When you are using your underpants, can other people use them too?
	Assuming you're not into some serious kink.
	Right. You're using your underpants.
	If you eat your dinner, nobody else can eat your dinner.
	Whatever you consume passes into you and is unavailable to everyone else.
	The air you breathe can't be breathed directly by somebody else at the same time.
	If you're in a bath, for the most part, you're in the bath on your own.
	Your house is yours.
	A couple other people might live with you, but that's it.
	You can't Get millions of people into your house.
	I know this sounds ridiculous.
	The longer the time frame, the greater the pleasure.
	And the more people who experience pleasure, the better the pleasure.
	We already established that, right?
	Now, what you consume can't be shared.
	Can't be shared. If you masturbate, you are consuming your sperm.
	If you impregnate, you are sharing your sperm, right?
	And you're creating life. Whatever you consume is for you and it is temporary, it is mortal, including your life.
	Only I can fit in the seat when sitting on it.
	Right. Exactly.
	Only you can occupy whatever space you're occupying.
	Nobody else can. Nobody else is using my microphone, my camera, just us.
	Well, just me. So, Possessions, material things, fundamentally, you can think of exceptions, fundamentally can't be shared.
	Your underpants are your underpants.
	Please, keep them for yourself.
	Now, what can be shared without diminishment?
	If I lend you my coffee cup, can I use it at the same time?
	Can you have your cake and eat it too?
	Can I lend you my coffee cup and keep it for myself at the same time?
	So it's diminished. If I lend you the coffee cup, you use it, I don't.
	If I lend you $100, you get the $100, I am down $100.
	What can we share that does not diminish us?
	Wisdom. That's right.
	That's right. Virtue, wisdom, truth, facts, reason, evidence, arguments, science, ideas, motivation.
	Do you think that I lost The idea of no excuses when I shared it with you.
	Do you think I'm losing this idea of pleasure because I'm sharing it with you?
	I give you the coffee cup.
	I don't have the coffee cup. If I give you this wisdom, is it taken away from me?
	I'm like, I shared the idea on Wednesday night.
	I don't know what the hell it was.
	Oh, it's gone from my brain.
	It's a coffee cup.
	The longer the pleasure, and more people who experience that pleasure,
	So if I love my coffee cup but I lend it to you, I'm down the pleasure of having the coffee cup.
	If I give you wisdom or you give me wisdom, we both flourish.
	Now, the longer the pleasure and the more people who experience it, the more downside we can accept.
	This is why to be merely secular, to be merely materialistic, to be merely matter, atoms, and space is to not sacrifice.
	Because the longer the pleasure and the more people who experience it, the more we're willing to, quote, sacrifice.
	The more downside we can accept.
	Do you follow? So what stops you from achieving a 10 in your enthusiasm and your motivation?
	You're not aiming for eternity and you're not aiming for maximum length and spread of the good.
	Because you don't aim high enough and you don't aim wide enough, You will not accept much downside.
	I have been beaten up my entire life up and down the quad over philosophy.
	Can we agree with that?
	I mean, certainly since you guys have known me, right?
	Like 18 seconds after I posted my first video, I was getting beat all up and down, right?
	So can we understand?
	We can agree with that, right?
	I mean, I'm not talking about things I don't know about, right?
	And I got beaten up in junior high school, in high school.
	I got beaten up in college.
	I got beaten up in grad school.
	I got beaten up sometimes in the business world.
	I had to fight really hard to get people raises and make sure that my employees were benefiting from the growth of the company.
	Bomb threats, death threats, tear gases, attacks, you name it, right?
	Lies, slanderer, right?
	So I've been beaten up.
	Why am I still doing it? Would you?
	Would you? And it's just not a question like, but would you?
	If you had been lied about to the degree to which I've been lied about, with much negative effect, the platform detect, would you still be doing it?
	I'm still doing it. Would you still be doing it?
	Think of the sacrifices some men go through just for an orgasm, right?
	Just for an orgasm. I mean, dating, hundreds of thousands of dollars, marriage, divorce, just for an orgasm.
	which is pretty short-term pleasure, right?
	So why is it worth the downside?
	The only thing that makes the downside rationally worth it is if the upside is universal and eternal.
	You understand that what is infinity divided by zero?
	Or infinity divided by anything?
	What is infinity divided by anything except infinity?
	What is infinity divided by infinity?
	Sorry, what is infinity divided by any number?
	Yeah, it's still infinity.
	I don't know if infinity over infinity means anything, but infinity divided by any number is zero.
	And what that means is that if you have a big enough and wide enough and broad enough goal for eternity, for everyone, then the downside vanishes relative to eternity, relative to infinity.
	Do you follow what I'm saying?
	When you're at a 10, which is the maximum motivation and excitement, when you're at
	a 10, what suffering are you willing to endure to to get to eternal.
	universal pleasures and happiness?
	The answer? Pretty much everything.
	Virtually anything. I'm not saying it's never tough in the moment.
	Yeah, there have been times.
	But you snap back to this equation.
	If the denominator is infinity, I don't care what the numerator is.
	Thank you.
	And any particular slight or deplatforming or attack or lies, it's just a number as a numerator.
	And it dissolves into nothing when the denominator is universal.
	So let me ask you this, my friends.
	When was the last time you spoke about universal moral truths with those around you?
	Last week, two nights ago.
	Yesterday. How hard was it?
	From zero, no difficulty at all, to ten, very difficult.
	How hard was it to talk about universal moral truths in person?
	How hard was it?
	Six, says John.
	Thank you.
	Nine. It's hard, right?
	And now, the reason why it's hard and the reason why...
	How many people do it?
	We're here. You do it occasionally.
	It's hard. We're here.
	We're talking about this. How many people out there in the world are talking about universal moral truths and values?
	Wisdom. It doesn't have to be UPB. Even just the wisdom, no excuses.
	How many people are thinking deeply about their lives and sharing wisdom in the world?
	Yeah, number of people on the live stream.
	Not many, right? Not many.
	Now, would you say that I've shown some pretty good levels of courage in the pursuit of spreading virtue?
	I don't know what perfect courage is.
	I think you can go too much.
	I think you can go too little.
	Too much courage is just self-destruction.
	Too little courage is cowardice or foolhardiness.
	You've got to find that Aristotelian meaning.
	But I think I've done fairly well in that.
	Now, is it because I'm just brilliant about balancing these things?
	No! Because I know what the numerator is and I know what the denominator is.
	I know. I know.
	I know. Take the sacrifice.
	It's not really much of a sacrifice compared to what's on the other side of that sacrifice.
	So, you don't spread reason, wisdom and virtue because you fear rejection.
	And you fear rejection because you underestimate the pleasures that are on the other side of that.
	The pleasures of it's eternal that most people can experience it and the downside relative to the upside is vanishingly small.
	What if you could do it without fear?
	Or with virtually no fear?
	Wouldn't that be great?
	Longer pleasure, eternity.
	More people, everyone.
	No downside relative to eternal, universal, undying happiness.
	What is the downside? You get to live forever.
	You get to live forever in the thoughts, minds, wisdom and improvements of others.
	But you want to, I assume, if your number is low, you want to have a meaning that has to do with yourself.
	You want to have a pleasure that has to do with yourself.
	But we are so wired that the more eternal and the more universal the pleasure...
	Sorry, the more...
	The longer and the more universal the value, the happier we are.
	So the greatest happiness is...
	The most eternal and universal values we can bring to the world.
	That's how we are. And we don't do it because we're scared.
	I get that. I get that.
	I understand that. I'm not saying that's crazy.
	But how do you overcome the fear?
	You understand that that's the greatest pleasure that you can have.
	The greatest pleasure you can have is bringing the most eternal and universal values to the most people.
	It's the greatest pleasure you can have.
	We don't have a cap on that.
	We don't have a ceiling on that.
	You eat food, you're full, you stop feeling the pleasure of eating.
	Right? You're hot, you're uncomfortable, you go into air conditioning, you cool down, you're comfortable, you stop feeling that pleasure.
	You have an orgasm, you get nappy, the orgasm is over, and you're done.
	When does the pleasure Of eternal, universal wisdom, the communication thereof.
	When does that pleasure end?
	Never.
	You've heard me say that my business plan is at least 500 years.
	You're aware of that. You've heard me say that before. My business plan is at least
	500 years.
	Thank you for your interest.
	Minimum. It's really in the thousands.
	My business plan is 500 years.
	Now, with 500 years as the denominator, let's say someone writes something bitchy about
	me and it bothers me for a day or two, right?
	So the numerator is a day or two, the denominator is 500 years.
	.
	Do you follow? So, what does it mean?
	It's 0.00000001%.
	percent.
	Doesn't even really make a dent.
	You lack motivation in your life because you are not wired up to the universal and the
	eternal.
	Thank you.
	Because you are living the material, you are possessed by things rather than inhabited by universals.
	Because you are wed and bound to that which dies rather than united and communicative of that which is eternal.
	You are mortal.
	You are possessed by the material.
	You are not motivated because what will outlast you?
	How motivated would you be to pour heart and soul into a beautiful building if you knew
	that building was going to be demolished when you died?
	Would you bother writing a book if that book stayed in your drawer and was buried with
	you?
	Thank you.
	you No. No.
	You wouldn't. If you are not hooked into the universal, the sublime, the conceptual, the abstract, the virtuous, the true, the wise, if you are not hooked into something that can outlive you, Your motivation dies because you will.
	Oh, what's the point? We'll all be dead.
	Does this make sense? You following?
	What are you doing that will outlive you?
	It doesn't have to be wisdom or virtue.
	It could be a beautiful book.
	It could be a great song.
	It could be music. It could be children.
	It could be building a barn.
	In your neighborhood? It could be anything.
	What are you doing that won't die with you?
	Because if it will die with you, you're living the life of an animal.
	And the life of an animal is small, petty pleasures.
	Oh, I'm happy that I had sex.
	Oh, I'm happy that I got some food.
	Oh, I'm happy that I felt a warm spot out of the rain.
	Oh, I'm happy that I found some shade.
	On a sunny day, you see this video of, like, it's a fast-forward of cats following a sunbeam across a room.
	That's your life. That's your life.
	You say, yeah, the sun eventually taking out the earth was horrible.
	It was very depressing for me. Right.
	Book, tree, children, stonework.
	Your life will live on in your children.
	Your life will live on in the words you give to others that aren't the fucking weather and sports.
	And what about this politics and what about that policy?
	But something true and deep and universal, you are.
	Shooting eternal ghosts of immortality out into the world that fill you up at the same
	time.
	Maybe my feeling of six, says Josh, is related to being here on the stream, consuming, not
	I do feel like when I'm doing more things, I'm fully engaged in those.
	Really, Josh, do you feel that being on a stream like this is diminishing your life?
	Is it subtracting from your life?
	Just curious. Do you guys feel like I'm taking away something from you by diminishing your life in some manner?
	Yeah, this is life-changing stuff.
	Yeah. Yes.
	Yes, yes, yes. This is intense, right?
	Now, you understand the powers that be want you to sink down to the material.
	They offer you the world. Free stuff, free welfare, free education, free healthcare.
	They just offer you stuff for your body.
	This is like plugging in the charger for me, says this fellow.
	Yeah, enlightenment. Right? If you are just the material, what are you?
	You're a pleasure-seeking animal.
	You're a cunning mind in pursuit of transitory pleasures.
	You're a beast. You're a devil.
	You get the world and you lose.
	What do you lose? What do you lose?
	What do you lose when you get the world?
	You take that offer from the devil.
	What do you lose? Your soul. What is your soul?
	That which is eternal!
	That which you share with the planet forever.
	You gain the material and you lose your soul.
	And you get to stay away from the size and depth of your own power.
	Motivation is the size of your effect.
	Yeah, what does it profit a man if he would gain the whole world, cost him his soul?
	But that's the deal. If you sink to the material, if you sink to the mammal, you lose your motivation, you lose your virtue, you lose your encouragement, you lose your enthusiasm, you lose what is most specifically, most deeply human about you, which is your capacity for universal abstractions that you can share with the world.
	What do we have? Concepts and language.
	Concepts and language. Concepts and language.
	That's what we are. That's what differentiates us from the animals.
	Concepts and language. Concepts are universal and eternal, as is language when describing concepts.
	You say it's raining today, that comes and dies with the day, but the moment could stop raining in an hour.
	You say two and two make four.
	Live a life with no excuses.
	Theft is immoral. These truths are eternal.
	When you produce and say things that are true for all time, you can't die.
	You can't die.
	You gain immortality with the impressions you leave through universal truth in the collective mind.
	You can't die.
	Your consciousness dies. Circles the world like the rings of Saturn.
	brings the Saturn awards visible from the surface.
	By speaking eternal truths, you become immortal.
	Thank you.
	People may disagree with you.
	Did Marx ever die?
	No. He tried to speak a universal truth.
	Obviously, he had a lot of effect, demonic as it was.
	Because what does Marx offer people?
	Marx offers people the material.
	Get some free shit.
	Line up here, get your free shit.
	And, of course, it turns into hell when implemented.
	This is why UPB is so important.
	And this is why people fight against UPB. UPB, if they accept UPB, then they accept the responsibility that the greatest pleasure they can have is to spread universal morality.
	But they want their petty animal pleasures, the leftists in particular.
	So they fight UPB, of course.
	Here's to put it another way.
	Do you know, in every call and show, when people ask me, what should they do, what do I tell them?
	What do I tell them? In call and shows, people ask me what to do.
	What should I do? Steph, what should I do next?
	I won't tell them. I won't tell them what to do.
	Never tell them what to do. Why not?
	Because... The only path to eternity is power over yourself.
	The only path to destruction is power over others.
	The only path to virtue is power over yourself.
	The only path to evil is power over others.
	It's the devil in their hearts and minds, in a way, metaphorically, saying to me, I will give you dominion over this person.
	You can tell them what to do and they'll do it.
	I will give you power and dominion over this person, the material, their body, their mind.
	You can possess it. It's like, I don't do possession, man.
	I ain't Satan. I don't do possession.
	I don't inhabit other people because that is to abandon the self.
	To accept power over the material is to diminish power over the self.
	So if you are not Planning and executing for great things in your life, whatever that is.
	And again, great can just be being a great parent.
	If you're not planning and executing great things in your life, It's because you're trying to seek power over others rather than power over yourself.
	You're trying to control others rather than control over yourself.
	Trying to get other people to do things rather than sinking into the universal that is at the essence of our humanity.
	Do you get, like, do you feel, I feel this very strongly, it's just a feeling, I'm not saying it's proof, but I feel this very strongly, that in these conversations aren't we right down at the root where we all join?
	Am I wrong? We're right down at the root here where we all join.
	Because I'm giving you the greatest abstractions and the greatest universals and the most eternal thoughts.
	Now we are all one down here, up here, wherever you want to put it.
	We are connected in a way that there's no other way to connect.
	...
	And it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
	If you sink down to the material, to the demonic, to the mammalian, to the animal, then you are not worthy of divine pleasures, universal pleasures, virtues.
	The pleasure is virtue. If you sink down that far, You throw off the mantle of the mind, of the universal, of the connection, and you live a small life of petty transitory pleasures.
	And then you have nothing to sacrifice for, no virtue to spread and pursue.
	And because you have nothing to sacrifice for, evil has dominion over you.
	Do you follow? You have nothing to sacrifice for, therefore evil has dominion over you.
	If you have no thought of dieting, whatever you want to eat, your hunger Your appetite, if you have no reason to restrain your appetite, your appetite runs and rules you.
	Right? Your appetite rules you if you will not rule yourself.
	Oh, but ruling myself is bullying myself.
	Why would a lion deny a meal if he's hungry?
	Slave to passion. Passion is a transitory.
	All passions come and go.
	But the pleasure of virtue, the pleasure of concepts, the pleasure of creating life, family,
	education, training, spreading virtue.
	You can't die when you partake of the eternal.
	Thank you.
	Man does not live by bread alone.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	This is probably as close to a sermon as I can get.
	The body lives by bread alone.
	You're hungry you eat some bread you're full you stop eating pleasure is gone
	Sex that produces children and bonds to lifelong lovers together to parents to
	Like, that is the great and deep pleasure.
	Sex where you just use people's body or your hand, that comes and goes.
	It's transitory. It doesn't last.
	And why would you sacrifice anything for things which don't last?
	Well, of course, the ultimate sacrifice is your life, your future, your ambition.
	Aim for longer pleasures.
	Aim for pleasures that grow with the spreading.
	I'm happier because you're listening.
	I'm happier because people are listening.
	The pleasure that I would take in being virtuous myself is nothing compared to the pleasure I take when I spread virtue.
	You follow? When you grow, I'm happier.
	And who would not pursue the greatest pleasures?
	You don't need a lot of will to pursue the greatest pleasure that there is.
	You understand? I'm not telling you to white-knuckle or force yourself to do anything.
	I'm telling you, this pleasure is here.
	It's available. And the more you spread it, and the longer it lasts, the happier you are.
	And I will also say that how much of a better person have I become by doing this show for 17 years?
	How much of a better person have I become by doing this show over the last 17 or 18
	years?
	It's immeasurable.
	You make me better by participating in this conversation.
	My virtue is... Is encouraged by you and you feel like you come out of this with something?
	Fantastic. I'm thrilled that you come out of this with something.
	Do you know what I come out of this with?
	Everything. Everything.
	This is why I thank you.
	If I have a flashlight, I give you the flashlight.
	I'm dark and you see.
	I'm in the dark and you see.
	But I have a candle. You light your candle for me.
	We have two candles.
	I've been taught philosophy directly and indirectly for years, 40 years, 41 years.
	Have I taken philosophy away from anyone else?
	I've taken illusions, lies, maybe.
	Have I taken virtue away from anyone else by learning and spreading virtue?
	But no, no!
	Socrates did not become evil by teaching me reason.
	It's not a coffee cup that he loses and I gain.
	Hopefully we can both become incandescent over the history of the world.
	Say, your work is eternal.
	No, my friend. No, my friend.
	Our work is eternal.
	Our work Virtue is like COVID. People always want to head back to the surface when we're down here connecting and growing, right?
	I'm going to make a joke. I'm going to make a joke.
	It's too serious. It's too deep.
	Responsibilities grabbing at me like a shark.
	Poke your tires out and head to the surface.
	Get frivolous. I understand.
	I'm not criticizing. I'm just saying I understand.
	But when you say that virtue is like COVID, A bioengineered destructive weapon.
	You understand that's shitting on the conversation.
	Comparing virtue with the effects of evil.
	Thank you.
	you may not be spreading it in the way that you want.
	I mean, you don't want to die, right?
	Thank you.
	You don't want to die.
	Would you fear dying if you were immortal?
	Almost by definition no.
	Does a whale fear the bite of a barnacle?
	Not really. The biggest obstacle is people who consider actually thinking, especially deep thought akin to torture.
	Well, the animal doesn't want to get crucified on the cross of eternity, right?
	The animal doesn't want to take his place in the hierarchy of values.
	The animal wants to win. The animal wants to dominate.
	The devilish, greedy, transitory side of our nature wants to win.
	Because the animal doesn't believe in the divine.
	The mortal doesn't believe in the eternal, thinks it's a fantasy, thinks it's a delusion, thinks that it's giving up transitory pleasures for the sake of something that doesn't even exist, like it's a con job.
	Why would I give up my transitory pleasures for eternal truths and virtues and values?
	It's a con! I'm giving up real money for monopoly money.
	I'm giving up real food for fake food.
	I'm giving up everything for nothing.
	Agreed! Stay with the consumption.
	Possession is ownership and demonology.
	Consumption is to eat up at the expense of others and it's a disease.
	Consumption. Words have more than one meaning for more than one reason.
	I win, you lose.
	Win, lose. That's animal.
	I win, you lose. I need money, you lose money.
	I want welfare, you pay taxes.
	I want power. You submit!
	That's win-lose. You follow?
	What is divine?
	What is divine? What is the only thing that is sustainable in a relationship?
	Is win-lose sustainable?
	What is the only sustainable relationship?
	Win-win. Win-win is the anti-animal.
	Win-win is the anti-mortal.
	Win-win is the anti-demonic.
	Win-win. Who is losing in this conversation?
	Am I losing? Oh, I'm giving up time.
	I'm giving up time talking into a microphone.
	I'm losing. Am I losing?
	No, absolutely not.
	This is great, glorious indeed for me.
	Are you losing by listening?
	Win-lose. It's mortal.
	I eat the orange, you can't eat the orange.
	I drink the water, you can't drink the water.
	I breathe the air, you can't breathe the air.
	I use the microphone, you can't use the microphone.
	I use the headphones, you can't listen through the headphones.
	That's win-lose. There's nothing wrong with it.
	It's part of life. It's life at an animal level.
	The lion eats, the zebra dies.
	It's win-lose. The cancer spreads, the person dies.
	Win-lose. Well, lose-lose for the cancer, I guess, eventually, but it's not that the cancer's got a plan.
	But win-win is eternal.
	Do you have a win-win in your life?
	...
	you If you have a win-lose, it's a sacrifice for me to talk about depth because I'm scared or it's a sacrifice for me to spread virtue because I could get blowback.
	It's a sacrifice for me.
	And you will forever be toe-stubbed and tripped and fall over because you think things are win-lose.
	Hard to find win-win.
	No. It's easy to find win-win.
	So earlier, Bob and Sally.
	Sally's crazy. You confront Sally.
	She storms out, turns Bob against you.
	Do you think that's a win-lose? Because your time frame is so short.
	Is that a win-lose?
	No.
	No.
	You have given Bob the greatest opportunity for virtue, and you've given Sally the greatest opportunity for virtue,
	one which will only probably come across once or twice over the course of their entire life.
	Like I said to people in the call-in shows, this will never happen to you again.
	The people who are resistant, who fight, who are negative, who don't listen, who resist.
	It's like, okay, yeah, just go on.
	Go on and have another conversation with somebody who really cares about depth and virtue and is willing to have
	hours on the phone with you.
	If you confront someone and that person runs away, you've given them the greatest opportunity for virtue.
	Now, if they choose not to pursue virtue, you gave them their greatest shot.
	It's a win-win. You've given their higher selves, their deeper selves, their universal selves the greatest chance of winning.
	You've given their soul its greatest opportunity.
	That's a win-win. After that, it's up to their free will.
	But you've done the best thing you can do for them.
	It's win-win. And Sally, by driving you away from Bob, is trying to win, but she loses.
	Yeah, if I have to make you behave, there's no virtue in your actions, right?
	You've given them the greatest opportunity.
	That's the biggest win as you can have.
	And when it's the biggest win that you can have, that's the win-win.
	We live in an animal society where it's all or die.
	You see, if you're living with integrity and virtue, and you're talking about it honestly, there's no win-lose.
	Yeah, you should frame asking out women as win-win.
	Of course. Win-win.
	Yes, you get the opportunity to be with me, who's great.
	I get the opportunity to find out if you're great.
	Win-win. When you go for a job interview, win-win.
	When people come to see me speak, win-win.
	I hope that you guys are getting value out of what it is that I'm saying here.
	But yes, you have to have virtue first, then you can spread it.
	And you understand why you live small.
	It's because living big means you have to become virtuous and we're all scared of being good.
	Or, to put it another way, we're all punished for trying to be good when we're children.
	So we have an aversion.
	We're trained out of virtue. Because virtue threatens power.
	Because power is win-lose, virtue is win-win.
	And the win-lose of the divine is always at war.
	Sorry, the win-lose of the mammal is always at war with the win-lose of the divine.
	Do that shit again.
	Tangled up my own brain. The win-lose of the animal is always at war with the win-win of the divine.
	Which is why primitive cultures have such a tough time with free speech.
	Free speech is win-win, even though it feels tough in the moment.
	The free market is win-win, although it feels tough in the moment.
	That's why more primitive cultures can't get to free speech in the free market.
	The animal is at war with the divine.
	The body at war with the soul.
	And of course we have to satisfy the body.
	We have to eat.
	There's nothing wrong with these pleasures.
	They're just subordinate to the universals.
	They're just subordinate. I mean, we can look at Hunter Biden.
	Is the divine winning or is the animal winning?
	This is not hard to figure out, right?
	There's no war between the soul and the body if the body knows its place.
	Which is to take the temporary and turn it into the eternal.
	You understand?
	The purpose of the body is to take the temporary and turn it into the eternal.
	The human body and mind is a great way of turning a potato into a poem.
	Turning the temporary, the transient, and the material into the eternal, the honest, the virtuous, and the truthful.
	We are a machine for taking the temporary and making it permanent, for taking the transient and making it universal, for taking the local and making it forever.
	Yeah, pleasure of the flesh helps bond husband and wives who then bond to their children.
	Actually it's virtue that bonds husbands and wives, but the pleasure of the flesh is a very tasty side dish.
	You are a god-like machine for turning what is passing into what is eternal.
	.
	The ephemeral to the eternal.
	From win-lose to win-win.
	Right? You eat the piece of bread.
	Nobody else can. It's win-lose.
	You use the piece of bread.
	You write UPB. You spread virtue.
	You've turned the piece of bread, win-lose, into eternal, which is win-win.
	Now, the only people who are against win-win, the divine, are the power junkies who only survive on the win-lose.
	That's a battle. That's a real battle.
	But in the mind and in the heart and in the soul, the eternal and the universal rule, the body serves that.
	The body is beautiful, the body is glorious, the body is wonderful, but it serves virtue.
	It serves the universal, it serves the divine, it serves the eternal.
	And if the body has any brains at all, which it does, because our brain is material, if the body has any brains at all, it would love to serve the eternal because then it will never die.
	Your brain will turn to dust.
	It'll end up in a jar.
	People will be dissecting me in a hundred years.
	Be gentle. But if the body has any brains at all, it serves the divine.
	How many people lost their capacity for the divine after COVID? Well, COVID, of course, was a great test and temptation of the material, of the body.
	I'm afraid of death, so I will sacrifice virtue out of fear of death.
	That's win-lose, and that's the animal.
	You can't get animals to sacrifice themselves for virtue, maybe for genetic proximity and so on, but you cannot get.
	Well, the white man's burden is the idea that we can share universals through conquest.
	You can't, because conquest cracks universals.
	It's win-lose. Colonialism cracks universals, it's win-lose.
	What should have been spread is the ideas and the arguments, not force, not subjugation, not control, not ownership.
	In other words, it shouldn't have been run by the state, but by philosophers.
	Now, with this framework, Longer pleasure that more people can experience is the ultimate motivator in life.
	Connecting to the divine makes you immortal.
	Participating in the universal gives you eternity and diminishes concerns about negative blowback to the numerator over a denominator called infinity.
	Now, win-win threatens win-lose.
	The supremacy of the soul threatens the dominance of the body.
	The angels within us do battle with the meaty devils of transitory pleasures.
	And we will no longer fear spreading virtue when we understand that every transitory discomfort or fear we experience fades to nothing in the face of the Eternal.
	Now, honor time.
	What was your promise if I got you to a 10?
	If I gave you depth, motivation, and power?
	What was your promise? Let's make it win-win, right?
	Yeah, that's right. Payment.
	Going to tip on free domain?
	That was totally worth it? I think so.
	And I'm not requiring you to believe in God.
	That is a philosophical argument.
	.
	Thank you for the tip.
	I appreciate that. Yeah, freedomain.com slash donate.
	If you're listening later, you can do it that way too.
	But that's about the best I can do until the next time.
	Until the next time.
	It was a great question. And I really appreciate those questions.
	They really do help bring out the best and deepest within me.
	Because some of the stuff I get, it's not like I've been having this from the beginning of the show in 2005, but I've just been withholding it to now.
	This summons and clarifies that which I think is deepest and best within me and where we connect the most.
	Thank you, ground beef, which is another way of saying thank you, body.
	Thank you, Christian.
	I appreciate that. Look at that.
	Ground beef and Christian both gave me a tip.
	The mammal and the angel both gave me a tip.
	I appreciate that. Thank you.
	All right. Let me just drop by freedomain.com and see what we got there for tips.
	Because we got 65 people or so, more, a little more, watching and listening, and you all
	pretty much said that you would tip, if I remember rightly.
	Because you know, it's one thing to talk about virtue, I think it's another thing to keep
	your word, would you say?
	Thank you.
	Trade the temporary life for an eternal martyr's crown for those who do believe, and if not, then, metaphor, live on in collective memory.
	And collective actions. Collective actions.
	I've changed the course of millions of families, as have you with your support.
	I and we, collectively, you with your support and participation, and I with my front and
	center verbosity, have changed the course of millions of families that can never be
	undone.
	Thank you for your attention.
	Thanks, Josh. That's very kind.
	Thank you again, Ground Beef.
	Don't pay what you can't afford.
	Please, don't pay what you can't afford.
	I really appreciate that.
	But you need to eat as well.
	It's not win-win if you can't eat.
	So don't tip what you can't afford.
	But I really do appreciate your very kind support.
	Thank you so much. Didn't think there was eternal motivation.
	This was it. Thank you. Isn't this right down deep in the meaty muscle of forever?
	Isn't this the sinew that stretches forever?
	I mean, this is it. This is right down at the bottom.
	This is the core. This is the eternal.
	This is the universal. You're way bigger than you think.
	You're way longer living than you think.
	You're way more powerful than you think.
	Because so many people shrink away from this level of depth and power and truth and universals.
	You grab onto that.
	And once you taste this, and look, tell me.
	Tell me. Operationsoffreedomand.com.
	Let me know. You're going to play around with this?
	What's there to be scared of when you live forever?
	What is there to lose when you can't be killed?
	It's incredible. Once you taste of this, what will mere meaty transient pleasures hold for you other than as a way of serving this?
	Other than as a way of serving this?
	Why do I work out? To preserve my capacity to generate universals.
	Why do I maintain my weight?
	Why am I losing weight? Why do I eat well?
	To maintain my capacity to produce universals.
	Why do I love these shows?
	Because it enhances my capacity to communicate universals.
	We meet in the realm of eternal spirit in a sense, of the soul, of concepts, of ideas, of the mind.
	Steph is preparing us for battle.
	It's not so much battle.
	I mean, do I seem to be battling like crazy?
	I mean, I'm always trying to...
	You know, the only thing I battle these days, and this is why I think this is coming out for all of us at the moment, There's only one thing, and it's the last thing I'll say tonight because it's been a lot of work, but there's only one thing I battle these days, and it's one thing I would suggest.
	You don't have to be like me, but the one thing I would suggest that you also battle is what?
	What's the one thing that we all have to battle?
	What is the one thing that we all have to battle?
	Evil? Nope. No.
	Cynicism? Nope. Indifference, ourselves, letting it burn, despair, being accountable.
	Time, inertia.
	Now, I don't want to tell you what your battles are and your battles aren't.
	I don't want to tell you that in any way, shape or form, so let me just make this personal.
	I think it's all of us. I could be wrong.
	The one thing I have to battle is smallness.
	The fantasy of ineffectualness.
	The desire to diminish and hide like a mouse at the feet of dinosaurs.
	To withdraw. To roll up like an armadillo.
	To be small, to live small, to stay small.
	To be inconsequential.
	To be powerless.
	To be passed over by the giant scythes gathering and swinging in the world today.
	Smallness. Distraction, nothingness, diminishment.
	An immortal soul trapped in the body of a mouse.
	Smallness is really comfortable, but it's a killer.
	Jared says, I need to battle erasure.
	Thank you for the armor and sword to cut through the small.
	Isn't that it though? Again, I don't want to speak for you.
	I don't want to speak for you. I'm just speaking for myself.
	It's the littleness, the mortality, the caution, the fear.
	The tall poppy syndrome, the hammer that sticks up gets nailed down, the desire to live small and not be prominent and not be truthful and not be valuable.
	I'm battling this like mad in the peaceful parenting book.
	It's brutal. I was working on chapters today.
	This is like heart-pounding for me.
	To be small. The greatest is Michelangelo.
	The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too small and we reach it.
	How often have I said, we don't know what our abilities are, we don't know what our capacities are.
	I don't know what my capacities are.
	I don't know. I don't know.
	Honestly, I literally sometimes think I'm still at 1% of what I can do.
	Not in terms of time, but in terms of size and scope and depth.
	And every single show, I try to do better and deeper and wider and more connected, more emphatic, better communication, better analogies, deeper work.
	I'm still fighting so hard my smallness, my distraction, my concern for the transitory.
	My unwillingness to plug myself into the mains of depth and universality.
	I don't think I'm alone in that.
	Aren't we all tempted to live small?
	Again, I don't want to speak for you. I don't want to speak for you because you have your own thoughts in mind.
	it sounds like I'm hitting a chord here with people.
	But I think that's it, isn't it?
	Sigh.
	Ta-da!
	I'm trying. I'm trying.
	And it's not like I'm lifting a heavy weight.
	In my experience, you're currently holding on to cash like a little puss avoiding an investment that is necessary.
	Or you're holding on to a relationship because you don't want to speak up or speak out or be rejected or...
	For me, I don't feel like when I sort of think about my own potential, I don't feel like my potential is not asking me to lift some heavy, crazy weight that's going to crack my back.
	It's not that. It's just saying, let slip the dogs of depth.
	Stop holding back.
	Stop restraining yourself.
	Let yourself flourish.
	Let yourself be a fountain.
	Let yourself dig deep. Let yourself fly.
	Not by building some crazy jetpack that's going to burn your legs off, but just by letting your fucking wings unfurl and lifting up.
	Take off. You can fly.
	Just stop holding yourself down.
	Tim says, C.S. Lewis said...
	It would seem that our Lord finds our desires not too strong but too weak.
	We are half-hearted creatures fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us.
	Like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea.
	We are far too easily pleased.
	Yeah, good old CS.
	I was never a big fan of the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, but his psychology and theology
	is virtually unmatched, in my opinion.
	Two massive banger shows this week.
	You never disappoint, but what a week.
	Lately, Steph is in card mode every show.
	Well, I'm trying. I'm trying to let slip the dogs of depth.
	I'm trying. I mean, no hate for the past, but I look back on, well, I did a really good show on the truth about David Letterman.
	Actually, that was my producer's idea, but whatever, right?
	And I'm trying to, like, that stuff was fine.
	That was good. I got no problem with that.
	But... How deep and wide can I go?
	What levels of eternity can I connect to?
	How big can the words become?
	How big can the words become?
	What if I have no limit on what I and we can communicate to the world?
	What if you say, Jesus, this is incredible.
	And then Sunday morning, 11 a.m., it's better.
	And you look back on this and say, yeah, it was okay, but this is really good.
	And then you look back and say, ah, this is okay, and this is really good.
	The deep stuff is where we are no longer alone, isn't it?
	Aren't we connected here like the tentacles of thought have joined in one body, right?
	Like we're connected here. Isn't the pettiness and the smallness almost unbearably isolating?
	Yeah, it's like looking at old codes.
	Sort of good, sort of bad, and a marker that we have improved.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And this, I mean, I've always said this is my commitment.
	I'm just going to keep trying to get better.
	And I'm going to assume that what I've done is nothing compared to what I can do.
	Which is why I'm just...
	I mean, my sleep is disturbed, but this book, I mean, my dreams are wild.
	It's very isolating to be in a sea of shallow.
	Only connect, right?
	Everybody's sitting around talking about nothing, discussing nothing, avoiding everything.
	People's depth is Netflix or what the news is or gossip.
	Somebody says, I'm teary thinking of the potential of the eternal we have.
	And once you taste that, once you get that, and my atheism, my materialism has definitely diminished that, so I'm treading on landmines of old defenses here, but I'm going to keep going.
	I'm going to keep going. I want to get to the depth and connection that we're capable of.
	I'm trying to turn myself inside out to find not organs but an eternity.
	Like what is inside me?
	What is inside if I turn myself out?
	There's a hole in space that's full of another universe.
	There's a great line from a song by Sting.
	Inside my head's a box of stars I never dare to open.
	Or in 2001, which I read as a teenager, Arthur C. Clarke.
	Oh my God, it's full of stars.
	You think it's a box.
	It's full of stars.
	What's inside is an eternity.
	And you understand that eternity only exists within the human heart and the human mind and the human soul.
	Eternity doesn't exist out there.
	There's no such thing as eternity out there.
	There's no such thing as infinity or truth or virtue.
	Or reason. The universe just is.
	The only chance for eternity to manifest is within, because it's the only place where the concept can exist.
	Eternity is not in the universe.
	The universe is not eternal.
	The only eternity and universality is contained within our three pounds of wetware in the human skull prison.
	You are eternal.
	You are universal. It's the only place in the universe that we know of where those things exist at all, can manifest at all.
	No virtue in the universe.
	There's no eternity, no universality, no concepts anywhere in the universe.
	It's all fucking dead.
	Matter, gas, energy, light, dark, strong and weak atomic forces, magnetism, gravity, nothing.
	None of those things exist.
	Gravity doesn't exist in the universe.
	universe it only exists as a concept in our mind.
	We are the only eternal thing in the universe and yet we live and die.
	Thank you.
	How do we join the eternal?
	by speaking the truth.
	Ahhh! Did we get there?
	Did we arrive?
	Did I keep my promise? Did I keep my promise?
	Was I a good philosopher tonight?
	He said in a vaguely needy fashion, I'm at 10 squared right now.
	That's right. And that squared will become infinite.
	That's the goal, right? I mean, I told you I'd get you to 10.
	Did I get you to 10? Jesus.
	It's like a sauna in here.
	This required one kilogram of sugar to fuel the brain, doesn't it though?
	Well, listen, I appreciate it.
	You guys kept your word. Thank you for the support.
	And if you're listening to this later, freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show.
	Tip your philosopher on the way out.
	Yeah, on your way out.
	Like the stream, share the show.
	And to hell with the haters.
	We outlive them forever.
	So, thank you everyone so much for a great evening.
	Lots of love from up here.
	Be great. Partake of eternity.
	Live forever. I'll talk to you on Sunday, 11am, for the subscribers.

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