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April 21, 2023 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux

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How to Always Be Loved!

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	But here's a little funny something about the book.
	There's a point at which one of the characters is trying to survive something
	and of course this book is my love letter to Christianity and she survives
	by being supported by a cross.
	Peace.
	Bye.
	.
	You'll know the scene when you get there.
	And it's really neat how well those analogies all came together.
	Alright, so we just post here and here and here.
	And there and there and there.
	Let's post here.
	Nobody really looks, but...
	Hit me with an R if you would like me to start off with a rant.
	With a rant tonight.
	I'm happy to take questions.
	Q for questions. I am not positive or minus either way.
	Q for questions. R for rant.
	Oh, and by the way, I will just remind you, I will leave here for you The link, you can watch it afterwards to my new presentation, The Truth About Daycare.
	Glorious and absolutely terrifying.
	Dear Lord, the data is worse than I imagined.
	So I strongly suggest that you look at it, that you share the data, share the information, share the arguments.
	Reference me. Don't reference me.
	I really don't care. But dear God, get this information out to people as a whole.
	All right. You asked for rants.
	And rant we shall.
	Okay. Hit me with a why.
	Hit me with a why. If you have ever, ever been around a woman who says that the reason that she's still single is she just hasn't met the right guy yet.
	Have you? Bueller, anyone?
	Well, you know, I guess he just wasn't my person.
	I just need to find the right guy, and my gosh, everything will be just fine.
	Now, I mean, I guess maybe this happens with men too.
	I hear it a lot more from women.
	You lost me at... Been around a woman?
	What's a woman? Yes, poor one out for poor Matt Walsh.
	She got severely hacked and apparently they got a hold of 20 years of his emails and Daily Wire is getting hit left, right and center, man.
	It's a rough life over there.
	Okay, so yes, you have.
	Now, this is what drives me insane.
	And this is a little bit of...
	The destructo coven.
	The destructo coven is anytime a woman has any anxiety that she might be doing maybe 1% of anything wrong.
	Tiny, tiny little bit.
	She might be doing just a little bit wrong.
	Might have a course correction.
	There could be something that she could tweak, optimize, whatever.
	She has that deep, uneasy feeling that we all get when we are potentially in the wrong.
	You know, you've had it before GPS, right?
	I did all of this driving for business.
	And you'd have one of these pretty yellow coil-bound maps open and kind of on your lap and you'd be like, oh, you know, I need to look for Jones Street.
	And you're driving along and you get this uneasy feeling.
	It's like, I'm pretty sure I should have got to Jones Street by now.
	And it's either 3 a.m. and you need to get to your hotel to get some sleep or it's 2 o'clock and you have a meeting at 2.01 or something like this.
	You know, you've ever had this uneasy feeling?
	Yeah. You know, you have this when you're hiking.
	Ooh, I really should have come to that road by now.
	And you get this uneasy feeling. But that uneasy feeling is, hey, hey, here's a thought.
	Maybe you should stop, reassess, and change your course.
	Just a thought, just this uneasy feeling, right?
	So women get this uneasy feeling.
	And what they do is they go to their female friends.
	And they say, well, I'm feeling really bad about this or, you know, this breakup really hit me hard and, you know, this is the fourth guy that has dumped me or whatever, right?
	And she's got this uneasy feeling.
	that uneasy feeling is free will sending its tentacles up through the sealed floor
	they go to their friends Thanks.
	Saying basically, I'm terrified that I'm doing the wrong thing.
	I'm terrified that I'm just heading in the wrong direction.
	I'm terrified that I am in fact the author of my own disasters.
	Up come the little rabbit feet of accountability up the stairs, right?
	So they go to their friends.
	They go to their friends. I think I'm sad.
	I think I might be doing the wrong thing.
	And what do their friends say?
	What do their friends say?
	Oh, we know. Type away, my friends.
	Oh, look, we have a woman who's typing.
	What do her friends say to her when she is worried that she is doing the wrong thing?
	What do her friends say to her?
	Sean Connery style.
	You go, girl. Nothing wrong with you.
	It's all him. He was the bad guy.
	It's all him. There's nothing wrong with you.
	Nothing wrong with me!
	Nothing wrong with me!
	Yeah. They seal them in the tomb of habit.
	They seal them in tomb of bad decisions.
	And if a woman says, you know, geez, my last four boyfriends cheated on me, they yelled at me, they never paid for anything, they never had any jobs, I mean, they were cute as heck, and they had 19 abs between the four of them, but, you know, and she's really frightened.
	Her eggs are crying out for salvation.
	Her lineage, her four-billion-year march from the primordial soup is like, don't get any further, we got to the top, and then it's all over.
	It's like being a human being is like the Olympic gold medal of evolution, right?
	It's the best thing you can possibly be.
	And it's like these single-celled organisms fall all the way to the top, all the way to the top.
	And it's like watching somebody who finally gets the gold in the Olympics and then just shoots himself right there on the podium.
	Oh, we finally hit the pinnacle!
	Gone, right? Ideological seppuku.
	Actually, it's more of an ideological self-castration.
	The vivisectomy, vasectomy of vivid ideology.
	So, what they do is they say, no, listen, you just haven't met the right person.
	It's magic, you see.
	It's just like when you have a whole bunch of keys and there's a lock, you just keep trying different keys into the lock.
	I mean, I understand it can be frustrating, but you'll get to that right key, and that right key is just going to squeak, squeak, go into the lock, turn, and you'll have multi-orgasmic bliss with the dodeca-billionaire with abs that you will bang, right? Just have to meet the right person.
	He's not your person.
	This is your person stuff. I don't like the your person stuff.
	It really does sound like how a master would refer to his slaves while they're my people.
	So, this is, yeah, what do they say?
	Poor you. You deserve better.
	You do you, queen. You just go out there and live your best life.
	Women die in solitude.
	It's murderous to keep women from being in love.
	We men, always a tiny bit autistic, we can probably handle solitude a little better with my one pirate eye, but yeah, it's really brutal on women.
	Keeping a woman from love is like keeping a man from being productive.
	It's demonic, really.
	So... Do you know...
	There is simply one key to staying in a relationship.
	Do you know what it is? It's only one thing.
	And it's actually very simple.
	It's very simple to conceive.
	Maybe a little bit tougher to act out in practice, but not a lot.
	It's just one thing.
	That you need to guarantee to someone to stay in a relationship.
	To get into a relationship and to stay in a relationship is the only one thing you need to do.
	Does anybody want to hazard a guess?
	Honesty. No. If a woman is fat and you tell her that she's fat, you are being honest, probably not going to be in a relationship.
	Nope. It's not your fault, girl.
	It's climate change. Give her a bunch of money.
	No, that will not keep her in the relationship.
	Tons of simps all over the place.
	They give their e-girl $10,000 and then they get to watch her as she goes around Europe with her chad boyfriend.
	Communicate. Nope. Nope.
	Nope. You and I are communicating.
	We're not in a marriage. I guess we're in a relationship.
	But no, a cop who arrests you is communicating to you.
	Get feedback. Nope. Pizza place gets feedback.
	Guidance. Nope. Commitment.
	Nope. Commitment slash stalking.
	Stalkers are committed. Does that keep them in relationships?
	Nope. Get her to read and live RTR. No, because getting her to do stuff is, what, manipulative or whatever?
	No, honestly.
	Trust. Nope.
	Because I trust that this person who cheated on me is going to keep cheating on me.
	Trust is just knowing that being able to accurately predict the future.
	Damn, we're bad at this LOL. All right.
	So here's the thing.
	Compromise. Nope. Compromise is mostly fatal in relationships.
	Adherence to something bigger than both of you.
	Could be a cult. Not necessarily good, right?
	Respect. No, respect is not given.
	Respect is earned. You can't just will yourself to give respect.
	It's obviously secondary sexual characteristics.
	I have primary, secondary, tertiary and multiplex sexual characteristics.
	I'm attractive to all human females and at least half the known species of ferns.
	It's really actually quite wild.
	Alright, be nice and don't be fat.
	Okay, so here's how you get into and stay in a relationship.
	Hit me with a why if you think your life will be, to some degree, even if only slightly better off after watching this live stream.
	is in maybe the why do you expect to be better off or worse off from watching this livestream
	yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah always Yes. Oh, thank you.
	Oh, I forgot to ask. Thank you for the tip.
	I very much appreciate it.
	Thank you for the tip. I would be happy to make tips.
	And listen, I'm getting to keeping you guys married.
	Hopefully that's worth a little something.
	So you know how to ask this question, right?
	Be the best you can be.
	Don't give her other options. It sounds a little sinister.
	Well, you're in the basement now.
	I've blacked up all the windows.
	You're out of options.
	You're going to have to love me.
	And it wears the skin on the basket lotion or something like that.
	No, be the best you can be.
	That doesn't mean that you're going to...
	I saw a picture of...
	Unfortunately, it was just an ugly guy.
	He had a tan, although he looked a little bit yellow.
	And he had abs and muscles, but he was just an ugly guy.
	And they're like, well, go out and get sun, man, and work out.
	And he shaved his head and grow a beard.
	And he just looked bad.
	Value for value. Okay, now we're getting somewhere.
	Now we're getting somewhere. Okay.
	So... I want you guys to come and watch a live stream.
	Because otherwise, it's depressing and I'm insane.
	I'm just talking to myself, right?
	So I want you guys to watch a live stream.
	So what I do is I say, okay, how can I make their lives better for coming by?
	You could do anything. You could go to the gym.
	Maybe you're at the gym and listening to this.
	You could do some stretches.
	You could go and hit the bars and troll for trash panda women with slut tattoos on their lower backs.
	And so you could do anything.
	So I want you to be here.
	So that means that your life has to be better and By watching this live stream or listening to it later, your life has to be better than if you didn't.
	That's all. That's all.
	How do you stay in a relationship?
	The other person's life is better because you're in it.
	Now, if you have trouble with this, if you have trouble with the romantic stuff, honestly, go straight to economics, right?
	So, many years ago when I was in my early teens, I worked in a hardware store.
	I worked in two hardware stores, but this is the second one.
	And to get the job, I was asked, do you know how to fix screen doors?
	And I said, sure, because I needed a job.
	And I worked there, and what I did was I wandered around cleaning things.
	You know, lifting up the baskets and cleaning underneath and wiping things down, right?
	And then my boss came to me and said, what are you doing?
	I said, well, I'm cleaning. He said, how does that make me any money?
	You know, I've got to pay you, which means you've got to make me some money, so get down there and fix some screen doors.
	Anyway, I figured out the screen door thing one way or another and fixed the screen doors.
	And so, yeah, he was paying me, I don't know, three bucks an hour, and I was making him ten bucks an hour by fixing screen doors.
	And so that was my sort of first introduction to rational and objective economics when I was like 13, which was like, okay, if you want to keep your job, if you want to keep your job, you got to make more money than you cost the guy, right?
	So because, you know, it wasn't just the three bucks.
	It was, you know, the time to do the ad, to find me, to interview me, to train me, to give me guidance.
	I mean, it's a lot of time and effort.
	So how do you keep a job?
	You provide more value than you cost.
	Obviously, right? I mean, in the free market, right?
	In the private sector.
	If you are being paid $20 an hour, but you cost your employer $30 an hour, you're going to get fired.
	It's like that old joke. It's like, yes, well, we do lose money on every shipment, but we make up for it in volume.
	No, you don't, right?
	And so if you're an employee, you want to...
	It's not just the money.
	You want to not consume huge amounts of your boss's time.
	Like if you're a difficult employee, you get into fights with other employees.
	There's a lot of management.
	The manager has to come out and deal with these fights and conflicts.
	You're going to get fired. Even if you make money, quote, on paper...
	If you factor in that the boss has to spend an hour a day at 60 bucks an hour to cover your fights and deal with your fights and your conflicts, you're going to get fired.
	So you just have to be productive and positive and your partner's life has to be better because you're in it.
	Nothing like honesty. Absolutely.
	For sure. For sure. But all of these things are generic, right?
	To be in a relationship, you must provide more value than you cost.
	And so if you're a guy and you go into a relationship with a woman, you have to provide more value than it's costing her.
	If you're a woman and you go to a man and you say, I want you to be monogamous with me.
	I want you to monopolize your time.
	I want to take you off the dating market.
	And, you know, I want to get married and I want to have kids.
	And you're going to have to pour half a million dollars into me to get your kids and all of that.
	Okay, that's all fine.
	That's all reasonable. That's marriage and so on.
	So you have to provide more than half a million dollars worth of value.
	And I don't mean economically. I'm just talking about in general.
	So, my wife is fantastic at paperwork.
	Me? Not fantastic.
	I can do it, but I'm not fantastic.
	So she does a lot of the paperwork that's just involved with being alive when you're middle-aged, right?
	Fantastic. Like, I worship the ground she works on for that kind of stuff, right?
	So you just have to provide more value than you cost.
	And for a woman to date a man, she's costing him because he can't go out and date other women.
	He can't just sit around and watch all the action movies he wants or whatever, right?
	So it's...
	Pretty simple. The other person has to be better off having you in their life.
	That's it. That's all that there is.
	Better off. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean in the short term or anything like that.
	So, for...
	The women, and this is where, you know, female friends, I don't know what the percentage is, but part of me feels like nine times out of ten, female friends just keep their friends down.
	They just keep their friends down.
	They don't challenge them. They don't upset them.
	They don't, you know, if, you know, it's the old joke, right?
	Like, it's like an observation that...
	A woman goes to her female friends, do you think I've gained weight?
	No! Slay queen!
	Fantastic! Blah, blah, blah, right?
	Whereas, you know, the man goes to his friends, did I gain weight?
	And it's like, bro, I know five fat people.
	I know five fat dudes.
	You're four of them. So, there's just a sort of reality-based thing for men.
	So... If the woman keeps getting dumped by men or ends up dumping them, then if she gets dumped by the men, the men are saying to her, my life is better off without you in it.
	That's when someone dumps you, that's what they're saying.
	My life is better off without you in it.
	You are a net negative to my life.
	You are a net negative to my life.
	If someone's life is better because you're in it, The only reason they would dump you is they might have some grasses greener fantasy about some other guy who'd be even better, right?
	It's like, well, you have a big boat, but he might have a yacht, right?
	Eartha Kitt style. So, you don't get fired if you're making $20 an hour for your employer.
	You just don't get fired because he's making money.
	Why would he fire you? Even if you're difficult.
	But the more difficult you are at work, the more profit you need to make in order to make up for the time and annoyance cost of being difficult.
	So yeah, it's a pretty simple thing.
	So if a woman keeps getting dumped by guys, what they're saying is the cost-benefit analysis means welcome to Splitsville, welcome to dump town, population, you.
	He dumped you because you're a net negative to his life.
	There's too much drama, too much upset, too much neurosis, too many restrictions, too much bullying, too much whatever, right?
	It's just a net negative.
	Too much endless complaints about other people, too much time with your boring friends.
	It's just like, mm, net negative.
	NN. No, no, net negative.
	If you're net negative, you're out.
	And it's not this weird magical thing.
	It's like, imagine this.
	Imagine a woman.
	She goes to work and she just hangs around and gossips all day and smokes in her cubicle and does her nails really loudly and plays the radio and annoys her co-workers and interferes with things, right?
	And she just keeps doing this, right?
	And assuming she doesn't work for the government.
	She keeps doing all of this crap at work.
	And then what happens is she gets fired.
	Repeatedly she gets fired. And then she goes to her girlfriend, oh, I just got fired.
	I got fired from four jobs, right?
	Now, a friend who cared about her, who genuinely cared about her, would say, well, what are you doing at work?
	Well, I don't really do much work.
	I mostly gossip and cause problems and tell lies and ruin reputations and cause infighting and smoke in my cubicle and do my nails and play the radio really loud.
	And be like, well...
	Yeah, yeah, that might have something to do with why you're being fired, so maybe don't do that.
	It's a possibility. Just maybe not so much with all of that crazy stuff that's costly and difficult, right, for the employer.
	All right. No!
	She comes and says, I can't believe I got fired from my fourth job in a row!
	And they say, you know, here's the problem.
	Don't raise your work ethic.
	Whatever you do, don't raise your work ethic.
	Don't try to be better to get along with at work.
	Here's the problem. You just haven't found the right employer yet.
	But boy, once that Ryan Gosling heavy-abbed employer comes striding over the horizon with his one foot on a black stallion, the other foot on the white stallion, rippling in the breeze from the sunrise, once that guy comes thundering into your life, man, you can do whatever crazy shit you want to work and it's just going to get racist.
	Because although it's true that you cost your employers way more than they pay you, Or way more than you produce.
	You cost them way more than you produce.
	Once you just find that magical right employer, all of your shitty behavior will be rewarded until the end of time.
	That is just terrible.
	Women like to complain constantly.
	Alright, so let's get to your questions and comments.
	How to provide value in a marriage as a guy.
	You make her life better.
	I don't know if it's different for everyone.
	You make her life better. Maybe you can work to get malign influences out of her life.
	Maybe you can help her get a better job.
	Maybe you can help her fulfill her dream of becoming a mom.
	Maybe you can just be happy when she comes home and jump into her arms and make her feel wanted and treasured and loved.
	Then, as sure as night, fall as day, she will stay with you.
	Again, if she's masochistic or terminally vain or has no capacity to pair bond, whatever, right?
	Then you won't be able to please her.
	Pick up line, hey honey, I coupon.
	Seriously, I just did this presentation where a woman saved, in the truth about daycare, people said, well, I can't afford for my wife to stay home.
	This woman, hit me with a why if you've ever known a ferocious couponer.
	Like a coupon terminator machine.
	Have you ever known? Yes, you have, right?
	Yeah, I mean, it's insane.
	I knew a woman who lived in the apartment building when I was a kid.
	Like, had scrapbooks of like the coupons.
	Scrapbooks of coupons. And it was wild.
	It was wild. You always get stuck behind them at the grocery store.
	Do not diss the coupon machines, man.
	Do not diss the coupon machines.
	I am... I probably lost about 12 to 14 years of my life every time I buy something.
	I tell you what my...
	This is my nemesis.
	My nemesis. When I have to buy something online, my nemesis is one little square box.
	And do you know what it says? Do you know what that one little square box says that is my nemesis and has wasted approximately 14 years of my life by now?
	Nope. Nope, no, no.
	No, my nemesis.
	Oh, are we going to get it?
	What is my nemesis? Come on, we're talking about this anyway.
	What is my nemesis? Discount promo code.
	Oh yeah, baby! That is my white whale.
	That is my sunlight to a vampire and it's my silver bullet to the werewolf.
	I'm like, I'm ready to buy something and I think it's a good price.
	And then, and then, my cheap...
	See, I'm a combination of Irish and German.
	Only could you mix in Scottish to get cheaper, right?
	That's the sound of me opening my wallet.
	Yeah. Dust and mothballs, right?
	And so I'm buying something.
	I think it's a good price, man.
	And then it's like, enter coupon code.
	Now, of course, I don't want an add-in that figures out everything I shop for.
	And so I just like, okay, let me go and find this coupon code.
	Copy, paste, copy, paste.
	Doesn't work, doesn't work, doesn't work.
	I literally have to slap my hand away from the keyboard and just say, just buy it.
	You were happy with the price, not...
	Three days ago. So just buy it.
	You're losing life. So yeah.
	No, couponers... I did a show with The Truth About Daycare.
	There was a woman in it. She saved $900 a month out of a $1,200 grocery bill.
	She saved $900 a month by couponing and buying in bulk.
	Like, it's insane how much you can save.
	Also, if you've got a wife who figures out the promotions and free stuff you can get from credit card companies, wow, you can save a lot on that kind of stuff.
	Somebody says, when there's a limit on the purchase, I go through the checkout multiple times.
	Nice, nice, nice.
	So yeah, couponing is a very, very big deal.
	So here's the thing, right?
	So she's like, hey, I'm staying home.
	I'm taking care of the kids, right?
	And let's say the man makes $30 an hour, okay, like after taxes or whatever, she's just saved $900, right?
	Right? So that's 30 hours of his week.
	She just saved most of her work week in couponing.
	Boom! That's pretty good, right?
	That's pretty good. So, yeah, you just provide.
	Like, if you make the person laugh, if you introduce them into cool new activities, sports, hobbies, if you open up a whole new quality social circle to the person, like you're just adding value, just in life, as best you can, relentlessly provide value.
	Just be a value, you know, drink from the...
	drink from that... You think you get a pleasant little 80s in the backyard drink and you get that full-on, could put out a forest fire face blast.
	Just relentlessly provide value at work, at home, with friends.
	And yes, there will be times where you will be exploited.
	No question. There'll be times where you'll be exploited.
	So what? I mean, are you going to let the bad people or the occasional people who exploit you, are you going to let them keep you from relentlessly providing value?
	Because that's what...
	See, oh, I've got to be committed.
	You're not committed to the person.
	You're committed to value.
	You're committed to value.
	To providing value.
	And that means you don't get complacent.
	I must provide value to my wife.
	I must provide value to my friends.
	I must provide value to my daughter.
	I must provide value to you.
	It never ends. There's no, oh, I've accumulated enough value.
	I don't have to provide any value anymore.
	Nope. And all that.
	Yes, so that's what you do.
	So, the women who get dumped, or who dump the guys, why do the women dump the guys?
	The women dump the guys because the guys aren't providing value.
	Or it could be that there's some other uber-chat out there, some giga-chat who has fantasies they could lock down with enough pussy patrol to contain a prisoner of war camp.
	So, yeah, well, all right.
	Just, yeah, provide value.
	Just think about that every day in your relationships.
	What value have I provided today?
	Did I make the person laugh?
	Did I make the person happy?
	Did I make them feel valued and treasured and loved?
	I'm in the last step for my wife.
	A couple of times a week, did you feel loved and treasured today?
	And I always want to know if there's any issues.
	Not that there really is, but if there were, I'd really want to know.
	So just check in with people.
	Am I providing value? Is your life better because I'm in it?
	Is it significantly better because I'm in it?
	That's all that comes to you. It's not just about a key in a lock and just, oh, the right person is.
	I mean, if you're kind of lazy and selfish and neurotic and entitled and high-maintenance and high-strung and all of that, or if you're a woman, I mean, a great way to lose a guy is to be really sexual at the beginning of the relationship and then freeze up.
	Yeah, that's...
	I mean, I have sympathy if it comes from trauma and so on, but you've got to deal with that stuff, right?
	Or not be in a relationship. Because the male sex drive is an elemental force of nature.
	They're still looking for, you know, the weak and strong atomic forces.
	The weak atomic force kneels before the strong atomic force, and the strong atomic force kneels before the power of male sexual desire.
	That's why we have everything in the world, is male sexual desire.
	That's why we have sewers.
	Why do we have sewers? We have sewers so that there's no...
	A washroom that smells up the house.
	Why do we not want washrooms that smell up the house?
	Because women don't have sex with us when they smell shit all over the air, right?
	Why do we have roads so that we can go and visit women we want to have sex with?
	Why do we have apartment buildings?
	Because that concentrates the area where girlfriends can be obtained.
	Why do you have buildings? Because in buildings you can put in disco balls and laser lights and bars and alcohol so
	that we can Bed a women. Why is there a flight because that way you can
	fly to have sex with women so pretty much it all boils down to having sex with women
	and Women just need to understand this about men. I don't think
	I'm going out of tune out of them here
	Well, women love sex too, but...
	Not in the same way.
	Just not in the same way.
	So, yeah, if you're a woman, you just have to provide a value in that way and make sure that you hang in there, right?
	And there are things that women want, that women prefer more than men, and you just provide that value.
	So, just pretty simple in a way.
	All right, so, thank you for the tip, Monsieur Silvier.
	Thank you for relentlessly adding value to my life.
	Yeah, because people are like, you know, people who are insecure, oh, he's going to leave me, oh, I don't know where the relationship is going.
	All they're doing is they're saying, I don't know if I'm providing value.
	And I'm just, I'm hoping against hope that he's going to stay with me even if I don't provide value.
	I just hope he's going to stay with me, man.
	I hope he's going to stay with me even if I'm not providing value.
	Even if I'm difficult, even if I'm moody, even if I'm asexual, even if I'm whatever broke.
	I just...
	So security in relationship is just the relentless provision of value.
	That's all it is. You want to be secure?
	You want to trust? You say, oh, well, it's all about the behavior of the other person.
	No, it's about your behavior. If the other person's life is significantly better because you're in it, then...
	He'll want to keep you around.
	I don't know. Men are so inconstant.
	Men don't know how to commit.
	Men won't commit to me. It's like, well, yeah, because the juice ain't worth the squeeze, right?
	The juice ain't worth the squeeze.
	If it costs a man more, emotionally, materially, spiritually, to have you in his life, he'll dump you.
	It may take a while, it may take a long time, but yeah, he'll dump you, or he won't dump you, but the relationship will be incredibly unsatisfying.
	Somebody says, oh, Michelle says, or she's in denial about the only value she has is sexual access.
	Right, right, right, right.
	Yeah, a woman who gets a man through sexual access, you just end up in this absolute hell swamp, this quicksand of self-loathing and mutual contempt.
	That's horrible, right?
	The woman who's like, I'll provide sexual access and that's how I'll get the man.
	She gets a liar, because the man's going to sit there and say, well, the only real value that you have is sexual access.
	I don't really like you as a person, and you don't add much to my life, but you lighten my balls, and I guess that's all right.
	And so, yeah, it's just a mutual contempt and falsehood and loathing, and it's just monstrous.
	It's a drug, right? It's a drug, and it gives you a short-term high with a long-term cost.
	All right. Given that people are tipping me for responses...
	Look at this. You get responses because...
	Hi, Steph.
	I have a question.
	Philosophy has been a huge part of my life for a good few years now and has helped me figure out so much.
	However, I find myself trying to push it onto my wife, which is terrible of me.
	I don't want to be like that, but find that my childhood traumas get triggered and suddenly I'm being pushy.
	I've asked her to read RTR and other books you have, but she does struggle to engage, probably because I'm too pushy.
	How do I stop this pattern of behavior?
	Right. So you are in the situation, and it's really tortuous.
	It's a really tortuous situation for which I have massive amounts of sympathy.
	A very difficult situation.
	So the situation, to analogize it, is like this.
	You are desperately thirsty, but very clumsy, and every time you try to bring a drink of water, to get a glass to get a drink of water, you knock it over, you smash it, and you're just moving your arms around like some sort of spasming kind of octopus, having some sort of seizure, right?
	You can't, right?
	You have these sorts of things in dreams, where I used to have in dreams when I was younger that a predator was chasing me, but...
	Gravity was very low, and every time I would take a step to run, I'd just bounce up into the air and I wouldn't be able to do anything.
	Why? Because, I mean, dreams aren't very subtle, because my life lacked gravity.
	It lacked gravitas. It lacked weight.
	It lacked substance. I was not living my values.
	I wasn't giving enough weight to my words, so I was weightless in my dreams, right?
	It's not very subtle, but there it is.
	So, or Midas, right?
	Oh, everything I touch, I want it to turn to gold, and then he tries to eat something, turns to gold, he can't eat it.
	Tries to drink something, turns to gold, he can't drink it.
	In the reaching for someone...
	They recoil from you.
	In the reaching for someone, they recoil from you.
	You desperately want your wife to do something but partly as a result of your desperation, she recoils from doing it.
	And I don't think it's the most elevated interaction but I have sympathy for both sides.
	Because if you want her to read RTR, it's my free book, Real-Time Relationships.
	You can get that at freedomain.com slash books or freedomainplaylists.com is also another good place to get freedomainplaylists.com.
	So you want her to read Real-Time Relationships.
	And that's one thing. But if you're desperate for her to read it, then she is concerned about complying to manage your desperation.
	She's going to recoil from that.
	She may not have the language for that, but she will recoil from it.
	Why would she recoil from it?
	She will recoil from it because...
	If you're anxious and she has to change her behavior in order to manage your anxiety, that will never end in the relationship.
	That will never end. She's going to be a constant, eternal, endless treadmill to...
	Control or manage your emotions, which she's not responsible for, and it won't work.
	If you have some anxiety and you say to your wife, read this book and that will make my anxiety go away, and she reads the book, your anxiety won't go away.
	It's not the cause of the problem.
	Again, it's like taking painkillers when you have a chronic infection.
	It's like it doesn't get rid of the infection.
	It just manages the symptoms.
	So she's going to recoil from something that you desperately want her to do because she doesn't want to be bullied by your desperation and she doesn't want to feed that desperation because what will happen is if she surrenders that principle and just does something because you're anxious, then, okay, now you've got to do this.
	Well, now you can't do that. Oh, you've got to do this too.
	And it's just going to... Keep piling on and painting her into a corner to the point where she won't be able to move at all.
	So she is recoiling from your need because she instinctively senses that satisfying your need will simply create more needs and deeper needs, that it's not dealing with the underlying anxiety of whatever is going on.
	So it's a very, very difficult situation to get in.
	And you say this, right? My childhood traumas get triggered and suddenly I'm being pushy.
	Yeah. So, it's very unfair, unjust, and a romantic relationship can sustain the cross-pollination of childhood trauma.
	If you are treating your wife like she's your mother, your relationship is not going to go very well, to put it as nicely as possible.
	In fact, it's really going to go terribly.
	You treat people as if they are abusers who hurt you terribly, they're going to be kind of offended and upset.
	Your wife and your mother, if it was your mother that caused this trauma, childhood trauma, your wife and your mother are, hopefully, I'm sure that they are, significantly different people.
	You cannot take the sins of your mother and apply them to Your wife.
	You can't do that justly.
	And you don't even want to do it.
	That's the tragic thing about this.
	You don't even want to do it. Again, when you're doing something that is harmful to you, first thing you want to look at, first place you want to look at is who does it benefit?
	Okay? Who in your life, in this situation, who in your life is going to feel ugly triumph if you get divorced or you have a bad relationship with your wife?
	If your mom was a bad person and you're a good person and you marry a good person, your mom wants your marriage to fail.
	That's straight up, straight truth, man.
	Your mom wants your marriage to fail if these are the situations.
	So it's your mom who wants you to pretend that your wife is your mother because that screws up your relationship and makes her feel happy, contented, and justified.
	I knew it wasn't going to work.
	I knew she had problems.
	Especially if your wife has problems with your mom, your mom will sabotage.
	Like, if you have a bad mom and your wife calls out your bad mom, your mom will sabotage your marriage.
	Straight up, man. I'm telling you this.
	Straight up.
	You have a mom, a bad mom.
	You have a girlfriend or a wife.
	She calls out your mom or tries to bring some healthy distance between you and the toxic mom.
	Your mom will strike out at that woman, strike out at your wife, your girlfriend, and they will try to sabotage your relationship as best they can.
	And trust me, they've got the means, motive, opportunity, and mechanisms to do it.
	When you call out abusers, Either they reform or they're going to sabotage you.
	This is why it's really dangerous to have abuses in your life at any time, but in particular, like if you meet some wonderful new woman, you meet Mary, this wonderful new woman, and Mary finds out about your family, your family was pretty bad, Mary loves you, really cares about you, she's not going to love your family who hurt you.
	You can't love someone and also love or even like the people who hurt that person.
	It's like saying, well, I love my dog, and I love the guy who kicked my dog repeatedly.
	It's like, no, you can't do both.
	This is a negative-sum game.
	If you love someone, you are going to really dislike the people who hurt them, especially if they're unrepentant.
	Obviously, right? I mean, you understand, right?
	So, if you meet Mary, and Mary notices a significant mess in your family, which you've been trained to not notice, or to overlook, or whatever, right?
	Then Mary's going to say, man, this is messed up.
	Like, they're your family and all, but I'm just telling you, as an outsider walking in, this is messed up.
	I don't like it. I don't like it.
	I don't like the fact that they hurt you when you were a child.
	I don't like the fact that they don't apologize for it now.
	I just, I don't like them because I love you, and they hurt you.
	And if I love you, I'm not going to like the people who hurt you.
	I'm going to dislike people who hurt you, particularly if they keep on hurting you.
	Tell me where this is crazy.
	This isn't any kind of complicated philosophy at all remotely.
	If you love a woman...
	Do you like the guy who beat her up repeatedly?
	Nope. You hate that guy.
	Because he beat her up repeatedly.
	You don't want that. That's no good, right?
	That's no good. I don't...
	I shouldn't say, right?
	I don't know why this is complicated or controversial at all.
	I have no idea why this is...
	I mean, the principle is blindingly simple.
	I don't know why this is even remotely controversial.
	If you have a little girl, and every time she goes to the park, some kid pushes her down the slide, causes her to get cut and bleeding, sprains her ankle, pushes her into the mud.
	Do you like the guy who tortures your daughter?
	Of course not! If you hire some babysitter and you find out that the babysitter beat your kids, Do you say, you know, well, we've really got to make sure we buy a Christmas present for that babysitter and I also want to wish her a happy birthday.
	I want to make sure we fill up the gas in her tank and if she's ever in trouble, man, our money, our resources, our time is hers.
	If you love someone, this is how you know if someone loves you.
	If someone loves you, they will dislike the people who hurt you.
	They may in fact hate them and that's perfectly moral and that's perfectly virtuous.
	So, If you meet Mary, or Giga Chat, you meet Mary, and your parents mistreat you, and she says, I don't like your parents, they mistreat you.
	What do your parents think of Mary, or Giga Chat?
	What do they think of her? She's an enemy, and she's going to have to be destroyed.
	You can't...
	I mean... You have to make a choice.
	You're either going to conform to the past and stay with the abusers, or there's going to be this relentless undermining and attack upon your marriage.
	That's all there is, man. That's all there is.
	And again, I have no idea why this is even remotely controversial.
	I mean, other than the obvious fact, which is that the bad people don't want to Be called out.
	They don't want to, right? I mean, I called out bad people and they worked relentlessly to try to destroy me and all that, so...
	The person who wrote the original thing said, You are describing the situation behind my question almost verbatim.
	Yeah. A woman says, this is exactly what happened with dear husband's parents.
	I started a conversation with them and then BOOM! They literally told dear husband I was bad and tried to poison our marriage.
	Yes. I could not have had a happy marriage with my family of origin around.
	Couldn't have had it. Couldn't have done it.
	Could not have done it.
	Could not have done it. I'm not going to get into details because it's not my family of origin's fault or responsibility that I became semi-famous.
	Won't get into details, but I know for an absolute fact it was have a happy marriage or be around my family of origin.
	And it's like, hey, if you're going to give me that choice, I got to tell you, choice is pretty easy.
	Who's more stacked? All right.
	Let's get to more. Thank you for the tips.
	I, you know, I really, really appreciate it and I love you guys for it.
	It's very helpful. All right. Hey Steph, I don't want my future family to suffer under a totalitarian regime.
	I'm from Central Europe and my current plan is to move out of the West, particularly into a South American country with a right-leaning government and start a family there.
	I will either have to meet my future wife in Europe and convince her to move to South America with me, which will probably be difficult, or just marry a woman from Latin America.
	Do you think this is a good idea?
	You've just given me two options and you've asked me, is this a good idea?
	I don't know what you mean.
	I would look for a place which is going to reject central bank digital currencies.
	That's going to be one of the final nooses, right?
	So, I mean, if I were in your shoes and wanted to move to South America, then why not just put your fingers in both pots, so to speak, right?
	I mean, you... You look for a woman where you are while you're getting ready to go, and you also look for a woman in South America and just see who pops up first, who's the closest to what you want.
	Why not both? My fundamental philosophy is like, why not both?
	Why not both? I mean, you can't be moral and rational because you can't get an offer for minutes.
	You can't be moral and rational.
	Why not both? UPB, right?
	Why not both? Why not both?
	Thanks for the truth about daycare.
	Any plans to release a dating series?
	I will put this out.
	Hit me with a donation if you would like me to put out a series on how to groom yourself, how to meet, Marry a woman or a man.
	A dating series.
	I'll just let the dollars do the talking.
	Hit me with a donation if you would like me to do it.
	Everyone's going to say yes, of course, right?
	If everything's free, right?
	Then yes, sure, I would like that, but it would have to be at the cost of everything else.
	So if it's worth a couple of bucks, then you can donate and I will add it to the list.
	If it's not worth a couple of bucks, no problem, then I won't.
	But I have a lot of dating experience and I have a lot of knowledge going from bad dating experiences to decent dating experiences to pretty good dating experiences to 21 years happily married.
	So I have a lot of insights, I think, to provide in that area.
	But you guys let me know.
	Again, I'm not going to go, well, you have to pay me to do it, right?
	But, you know, I mean, if everyone's going to say yes, why would you say no, right?
	But if it's something that...
	If people want to tip for, then that would be great.
	I will absolutely do it. I promise you that.
	All right. Let me get back here.
	A lot of lean manufacturing is about identifying what the customer finds valuable and minimizing everything else.
	We need lean relationships in general, not just at work.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	Yeah. I'm also not a polygamist.
	Right? This is sort of foundational.
	It's going to blow your mind.
	This is going to blow your mind.
	Not that I'm not a polygamist, but why?
	What I mean by that. Hit me with a why!
	If you've ever felt like you were dating a girl and her mother at the same time, that the mom kept swooping in through the girl's psychology and causing problems or she'd fight or there'd be stupid stuff, you'd go and visit the parents, you'd have fights on the way there or on the way back, hit me with a why if you've ever felt like you're dating more than one person in a way at the time, that there's a lot of contradictions, a lot of neurosis, a lot of issues, a lot of problems, hit me with a why if you've ever felt that.
	Yes, for men and their mothers, says this woman.
	Yes, a Filipina with her mother.
	Yes, dated a guy who was like that with his mom.
	or you you
	you date a woman now I'll have to wait for that
	So, why am I not a polygamist?
	Because I will only allow myself and my wife in our marriage.
	I don't polygamy. I don't do that.
	I am not of that belief system.
	So, if I sense the presence of someone else in the marriage, I will not accept that.
	I've tried dating more than one person.
	Like, yeah, you're cute, and if your mom shows up in your head and takes over the conversation, I guess we can roll with that for a bit.
	It's like, nope, I don't do that anymore.
	I do not polygamy.
	I date the woman.
	Now, of course, she's going to have influence from her mother and this, that, and the other, but...
	We all know, and you've seen this, I just did the wildest roleplay yesterday, I haven't released the show yet, it's the wildest roleplay with a guy with what was in my view a truly bottomlessly narcissistic mother, and trying to get her to notice that other people had needs was like literally a half hour of beating my head against a titty wall.
	It was just wild.
	So you know when people can kind of flip into their alter egos of their parents or whatever it is or they react to you like you're their dad or their mom.
	That just means that dad and mom are in the relationship and I don't polygamy.
	I date one person and I don't let them get possessed by other people because I don't do polygamy.
	I date one personality.
	I don't date multiple personalities.
	So... Somebody says, dated a man and his mother.
	When I spoke up, he cleaned it up right away, thankfully.
	Yes, that is very, very important.
	It should be you and your spouse.
	And again, influence is sure, blah, blah, blah, but not possession, right, and all that.
	Somebody says, I want to clarify the South American question.
	I was wondering if you see any issues, cultural, etc., with marrying a Latin American woman as a European man or with raising children in Latin America as a European couple.
	Thank you. Well, remember, of course, there are lots of Europeans in Latin America.
	I mean, Hispanic doesn't mean Mestizo.
	Mestizo is genetically a blend of the indigenous population of South America, like the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Incas, and so on, with the European.
	That's Mestizo. But there are...
	Europeans, Spanish and so on, who are in Latin America, who are European.
	So, I don't know that Latin America just means, my gosh, you know, it's a Latin American woman.
	Now, cultural issues and so on, yes, I'm sure they will be different.
	Raising children in Latin America as a European couple, well, it depends.
	If your kids are European-European, I don't know how that works culturally, but I assume, like most places, there's just this general resentment towards Europeans.
	It's just kind of a thing these days.
	Not exactly organic, but there it is.
	So I think that you would have to look into that, but if you make some decent money, maybe you can put them in a private school, or I think more ideally homeschool them and so on, I think that would be the way to go.
	Cultural issues, yes, but here's the thing.
	If you think for yourself, you're one of the tiniest minorities in the world anyway.
	So it's not so much cultural issues between...
	Europe and South America, it's cultural issues between you and people who don't think.
	Most Latinas are crazy in my experience, but again, Latina doesn't mean anything genetically.
	It means, in general, it just means from a particular area, but it doesn't mean necessarily anything genetic or whatever, right?
	So... All right.
	Yeah, so if you find a woman in South America who thinks for herself and is open to reason, then marry her.
	Forget all the cultural issues, that doesn't matter, because you then have a culture of people who think for themselves, which is just about the rarest culture there is.
	So do that.
	And of course, you know, be relentlessly skeptical of the value of her family of origin.
	Just as she should be skeptical of the value of your family of origin, which is fine.
	You know, some people do have, you know, valuable families of origin who help and love and protect them and all of that.
	And that's wonderful. But most people don't.
	So, all right.
	What do I think of the Myers-Briggs personality index?
	Really? We did this, oh boy, probably 12 years ago on the show.
	Alright, I'm going to just double check here.
	But I think it was just made up.
	Wasn't it a bunch of secretaries or something like that?
	Alright, let's see here.
	When Catherine Briggs, a mother and homemaker, began what she called a, quote, cosmic laboratory of baby training in her Michigan living room in the early 1900s, she didn't know that she was laying the groundwork for what would one day become a multi-million dollar industry.
	Briggs was just 14 years old when she went to college and ended up graduating first in her class, explains author Merv Emery.
	She married the man who graduated just behind her at number two.
	While he became a scientist, she was expected to take care of the home.
	So Briggs began studying children and along with her daughter, Isabel Briggs Myers, created what became known as the Myers-Briggs type indicator.
	Are you an extrovert or an introvert, sensing or intuitive, thinking or feeling, judging or perceiving, blah, blah, blah, right?
	The test hasn't held up scientifically.
	Yeah, it's all...
	I mean, sometimes people are like, well, I want some bullshit, but I don't want bullshit involving the stars.
	Why don't I have bullshit involving psychology and pretend it's not bullshit?
	So, yeah. It's, um...
	So, what this woman started to do was gather the neighborhood children in her home and test their personalities.
	She wanted to help them design programs of education that would help each one of them individually self-actualize.
	Boy, there's a, uh...
	There's a goal with no end and a hole with no bottom.
	Well, I, uh... I just...
	I need to become more me.
	I need to self-actualize.
	I need to become authentic within my own lived experience.
	It's like, okay, so you just want to go overseas and ban guys.
	Got it. Okay. There's just all a bunch of...
	I don't even know what that means. What's the end of it, right?
	She started by giving their parents a questionnaire, a forced choice questionnaire.
	Only two answers, A, B, and you had to choose one.
	And... This woman spends so much of her adult life caring for her children, both hers and others, that when her only daughter, Isabel, goes off to school, she falls into this very deep depression because she doesn't know what to do with her life.
	So she reads Carl Jung's Psychological Types, becomes devoted to it, and she writes back and forth with him and so on.
	For Catherine, it was really a spiritual quest.
	She was a deeply religious woman, and she believed that the only way to really save your soul was to figure out who you were and to live life according to that best version of yourself.
	So, yeah, I mean, she was a housewife who was mystical in the way that I would understand it.
	So, it's just a bunch of made-up stuff, and there's no scientific backing behind it, and it's just updated astrology garbage as far as I believe.
	So, how to find people open to reason, especially young fertility females?
	Well, the best way to find people open to reason is to reason with them.
	And if they reason back, you know, like if you're in Tokyo, how do you find people who speak English?
	I don't know. Go up and speak English to them.
	And if they reply in English, they speak English.
	So, yes, that is the way to go.
	And the other thing too, so the Myers-Briggs thing, it's all about kind of bullshit narcissism, again, in my humble amateur outside opinion, which is, is there anything in there about having integrity, about moral courage, about virtue, about any of that stuff?
	No, it's just like, well, I tend to be a bit more intuitive and a little bit less extroverted, and I, I, I, me, me, me, I, I, I, God almighty.
	Where do people get off on staring up their own asses their entire lives?
	Well, I this and I that.
	I tell you, I mean, nobody's that interesting.
	Honestly, I live in a pretty active brain.
	You know, I write entire books, novels, and come up with novel psychological, or I should say novel philosophical theories and self-knowledge theories on a pretty regular basis.
	I have wild dreams. I'm a pretty interesting person.
	I'm not that interesting that I could just sit there and examine my own brain for the rest of my life.
	It just seems like a weird thing to do for me.
	It really does. Just seems like a weird thing to do for me.
	It's like, you know, massage to relax you, massage to loosen some tight muscles, massage whatever, right?
	It could be therapeutic and so on.
	It's got a sort of purpose.
	But you don't just sit around massaging yourself for 12 hours a day.
	Like that would be just kind of weird, right?
	It's just kind of strange. I don't understand this, you know, well, I used to be like this, but then I had this, went through this phase, and then it was really outgoing, and then this, that, and the other.
	It's like, oh my God, you're not that interesting.
	Nobody's that interesting. Just go out and do things in the world.
	Take on some real challenges.
	Fight evil. Do good.
	Tell the truth. You know, take on the powers that be as best as safely possible, you know?
	But just, you know, eye, me, me, eye stuff.
	It sort of reminds me of when I first learned this.
	When I was a teenager, because I looked older, I looked pretty young back now, relative to 56, but I looked pretty old.
	Older back then. I had a high forehead and all of that.
	And I remember going to a party and And I had done quite a bit of traveling by this point in my life.
	I mean, obviously, I was born in Ireland.
	I grew up in England. I went to Germany.
	I went back to Ireland a bunch of times.
	I was originally going to travel and live in Scotland.
	So we spent a lot of time there before then we came to Canada.
	And then I went to Africa twice in my life.
	Like I'd done a lot of travel, seen a lot of interesting things and all of that.
	And I would sometimes talk about my travel, you know, somewhat self-consciously in a sense, thinking, well, this makes me interesting and special and different and cool and blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
	Until, until, oh my God, this one horrifying evening where some woman, I suppose, was trying to impress me with her travel stories and, oh my God.
	I couldn't care less.
	That was sort of the beginning of my great emancipation from self-obsession, from the narcissism of thinking that you're all that plus a cathedral and the Louvre at the same time.
	It's Fridays I go painting in the Louvre!
	So, I just remember thinking, oh my god, like, your travel stories, I bet you this is how I appear to other people.
	Oh yes, and then you see I went to my mumbebe.
	I spent a summer, I did marine biology work as a teenager.
	I spent a summer in Newfoundland doing marine biology work with a friend of my father's.
	And, you know, we hiked up rivers and we took samples.
	And I remember very delicately getting electric eels and just very, you know, some cool stuff, I think, relatively speaking.
	And I just remember, like, this woman was telling me, well, you see, then I do remember I went to Morocco.
	And Morocco was known as the...
	The place of the four colors, the blue of the sky, you've got the red of the clay, you have the yellow of the desert, and some other bullshit color.
	And I was just like, oh my god, travel is boring.
	People telling travel stories is really boring.
	And of course, I hope you've gone through this process where anybody who says anything about the I was so drunk, I dot dot dot stories is just like, Eject!
	Eject! Eject! In fact, if I was in an airplane flying upside down 10 feet off the ground, I'd still put the eject button because that would be easier and better than listening to another...
	I was so drunk, man.
	I couldn't believe it what I did.
	It's like, yeah, great. You know, I gave myself a brain injury and wobbled when I walked.
	Isn't that amazing? What a miracle.
	So, yeah, it's nonsense.
	Somebody says, oh, this is from the guy with the earlier question.
	Thank you for answering my question. My wife was listening and you really nailed how she felt when I get pushy.
	We subscribe, but here's a small token of gratitude for your help.
	Thank you. I appreciate that. Very kind.
	Very kind. And if there is anything I can do to help, you want to have a call?
	No problem. No problem. Let's see here.
	I was tired until the end.
	I'm making love.
	We are immortal.
	All right. Dear Steph, I found your work shortly after your deplatforming.
	My first book was Almost.
	I was hooked. My God, that is a great book.
	What a book that is.
	It's my novel Almost. You can get it for free at almostnovel.com.
	I found the call-in shows extremely helpful and have recently become a subscriber on Locals.
	Thank you very much. There is one situation I have yet to hear about.
	Zero to Hero.
	How to internalize your new persona.
	Well, because you praised almost, and you subscribed, which is nice, thank you, I will make a note of that, but you'll need to give me more details.
	Oh, here are more details!
	You ask and you answer.
	I grew up obese and was nicknamed accordingly by my peers.
	In the last few years, I've got in shape and lost about 80 pounds of fat from 255 to 180 pounds at 6 feet tall.
	Wow! I'm 190 and a bit and just under 6 feet, so good for you, man.
	None of my peers recognize me now.
	I've also created a six-figure self-employed business.
	Now that I'm actually attractive to women, I want to be wanted for me.
	Not a house, money, or muscles.
	It's kind of depressing that I became attractive only after going through hell.
	Curious for your thoughts.
	Thanks for what you do. I appreciate that.
	That is very inspiring.
	What a great, great story.
	Right. Right.
	Now that I'm sexually attracted to women, I want to be wanted for me.
	I did a talk yesterday, so I'll just touch on it briefly.
	This was in the call-in show. Sorry, for those who don't know what call-in is.
	Apparently, it's my thumb by my ear and my little finger by my mouth.
	So, Platonic love versus Aristotelian love.
	So, in Platonic love, you're loved for who you are, and it applies to babies and toddlers, and that's it.
	Babies and toddlers are love for who they are.
	They don't have to earn it. They don't have to do anything.
	They just have to be themselves. And you love them.
	You attach to them. They're super cute.
	They're bubbly. They're funny. They engage with you.
	They're new life. They're a continuation of your line, your culture and your history and your values and your virtues.
	So, yeah. Babies and toddlers, love for who they are.
	Absolutely. Everyone else, love for what you do.
	Platonic love is loving the ideal essence of the person in the way that God loves your soul.
	But Aristotelian love is empirical.
	It's evidence-based. And this is to prevent you from being exploited.
	You can't be exploited by a baby, but you sure as hell can be exploited by people.
	And people who demand that you love them for who they are rather than what they do and provide, I'm not saying this is you in particular, are there to exploit you.
	And the way that you protect yourself from that exploitation is to demand proof of virtue before giving the gift of love.
	You demand proof of virtue before giving the gift of love.
	Now, The fact that you have money and you've lost weight, you are more sexually attractive to women.
	Beautiful. Fantastic.
	And the reason why losing weight is impressive is it means that you've overthrown your childhood because you say you grew up.
	Most people who are overweight are overweight as children, right?
	Very few, Marlon Brando, most people who are overweight...
	Are overweight as children.
	And so they have shitty parents who abuse them with too much food and don't model any particular restraint or healthiness or anything like that, right?
	So you've overcome that.
	You've shown extraordinary levels of willpower.
	Like 98% of people who lose weight gain it back.
	And so, I mean, you and me and, you know, a couple other people on the planet, I'm sure a lot of people in this cause, if you've been overweight on these shows, yeah, I lost, I don't know, 25, 30 pounds about 15 years ago and I have not gained it back.
	So, but that's just, you just have to change everything.
	You can never go back to the way you were.
	It's not a temporary thing.
	So, It's very attractive.
	You want to be wanted for you, not a house or money or muscles.
	No, no, but you're not wanted for you.
	I'm not wanted for me.
	I mean, listen, seriously, do you come here to love me for who I am?
	You do not. I love you guys.
	I'm sure you have great affection for me.
	Do you come here to love me for who I am no matter what?
	The answer to that is no.
	You do not. And I don't want you to and you shouldn't.
	Why do you come here?
	Why do you join these livecasts?
	Why do you listen to this later?
	Why? Is it because you love me in some abstract way regardless of what I do?
	Why do you come here?
	Why are you here?
	Why are you running? The virtue?
	Yeah, I mean, but you come here for a benefit that I can provide you, that philosophy can provide you, right?
	The value? Yeah, you come here for philosophy.
	I come here for his philosophy.
	I wouldn't care otherwise. We wouldn't be friends in real life.
	Oh, we might be. Who knows?
	We might be friends in real life.
	It's not like my philosophy and my life outside of doing philosophy are somehow magically different or opposites, right?
	So we might be. We might be.
	But here's the thing. I say, well, look, I want to be loved for who I am, not for the value I can provide.
	It's like, no.
	You should not love me for who I am.
	You should love me for the value that I can provide.
	Because if you say, well, I just love someone for who they are, then someone who's a real sociopathic narcissist is going to come along and credibly demand that you love them for who they are and strip your life down to the fucking rubble.
	It's ridiculously dangerous to be tempted into this universe of loving people for who they are in some abstract realm separate from the actions they perform and the value they provide.
	I want to be wanted for me.
	No, that was your mom's job.
	It was your mom and your dad's job to love you for you.
	Everyone else has to love you for the value you create and provide.
	Everyone else should love you for the value you create and provide.
	Now, if you didn't get the love that you deserved as a baby, as a toddler, then you're very sad about that.
	And then what your first impulse, like everyone's is, mine as well, your first impulse when you're really sad that you didn't get the love that you deserved as a baby, your first impulse is to find somebody else who's going to do it to, who's going to just make it up to you, who's going to just love you for who you are.
	But that's greedy. And it's inappropriate.
	And it's exploiting other people.
	No adult should just love you for you and you alone.
	They should love you because of the value you create and provide.
	What is adult love for?
	Adult love is for the having and raising of children.
	That's why we have pair bonding.
	That's why we have sexual desire.
	That's why we have the capacity for love.
	That's why it's evolved. That's what it is.
	It's for the having and raising of children.
	Now, you should have been loved for who you were, independent of actions, independent of course, in fact, independent of value provision when you were a baby and a toddler.
	Absolutely. And I'm sorry you weren't.
	I really am sorry that you weren't.
	But nobody can swoop in and fix what your mom didn't give to you decades and decades and decades ago.
	They can't do it. They can't do it.
	It's impossible. What happens, of course, is that You say, well, I just want to be loved for me.
	And then someone comes along and they say, no, no, I do just love you for who you are, blah, blah, blah, right?
	But it won't solve the problem.
	So then what happens is either they exploit you or you just get mad at them.
	And you say, well, I should be loved for who I am.
	That'll make me feel better. I still feel bad even though you claim to love me for who I am.
	That's because you don't really love me for who I am.
	You are just here for the muscles and the money and the house.
	And you get mad at them and you resent them.
	Because they're not fixing what they can't fix.
	They can't fix it. They can't fix it.
	You can't be a baby again.
	You can't be a toddler again.
	You can't rewind. There's no time machine.
	There's no undoing. All of that.
	It's impossible. It's impossible.
	You know, like that joke of the women who are turning 29 for the fifth year in a row.
	It's like, nobody can tunnel back through time and give you what you needed as a baby.
	They can't do it for me.
	They can't do it for you. They can't do it for any single human being on the planet.
	So if you think that someone has a pill that takes your pain away, and they offer you that pill, and you keep taking it, and you think, if it's the right medicine, my pain all goes away, but your pain gets worse, you're going to get mad at them.
	You're not giving me the right pill.
	This isn't the real pill. You're ripping me off.
	Get me the right pill.
	You're going to get mad at them and drive them away.
	Oh, look. Then you're right back where you started, where you thought you were going to get love, and what you get.
	Anger and rejection. Boom!
	Simon the Boxer. Repetition compulsion right there.
	You follow? I'm sure you do.
	No. When you become a man, you put aside childish things.
	And one of the most childish of things is to think that other people can fix what your parents broke.
	They cannot. I cannot.
	Nobody can. Not even your parents.
	Your parents cannot fix what they broke.
	You understand, right?
	If you didn't get enough food to eat when you were a baby and you grew up an inch shorter than you should have, you can't grow an inch in your 30s by eating more food.
	That time of development is long gone, long in the history.
	It's never going to work.
	You want to be wanted for me.
	I want to be wanted just for me.
	Nope. That's setting yourself up for failure.
	It's setting yourself up for loneliness.
	It's setting yourself up for rejection, bitterness, disappointment, anger.
	Look, you shouldn't just think about me and how wonderful I am and just sitting in a room.
	No! You should think about me in terms of the value that I can provide to you and the value that you can provide to me.
	Spreading the word, being a good person, some donations are always gratefully appreciated, but it's an exchange of values.
	Why? Because we're adults, neither of us is in diapers, at least I bloody well hope so.
	I'm afraid you are going to be wanted for your house, money and muscles.
	Because those are markers of what makes you competent to be a father providing for his family.
	And that's what adult love is about.
	Children raising families.
	That's what it's about. If the woman says, oh he's got a house, that'd be a great place to raise children.
	Oh he's got money, good, then he can afford children.
	Oh he's got muscles, that means he's got willpower and drive.
	And it's sexy. No, no, no, but I don't want the house or the money.
	You're going to strip yourself down to the point where you don't exist and say, well, I want to be loved for nothing that's empirical, nothing like my soul, whatever.
	No, no. Human adults love each other for the exchange of value.
	And that keeps you safe.
	Understand, I'm trying to keep you safe.
	Because some woman, I guarantee you, man, some woman's going to come along and she's going to like, holy shit, that guy's got a lot of money.
	Oh, that's a nice house.
	And he's got a lot of unmet baby needs.
	I'm going to come in and mother the shit out of that woman and then take half his stuff.
	Mm. Mm-mm-mm.
	I know what he needs.
	And I'm just going to come in.
	I'm going to love-bomb him.
	I'm going to sex him up a tree.
	I'm going to praise him to the skies.
	I'm just going to hypnotize him by becoming some white-gown bang-a-thon mommy substitute that's going to make all of his infant horrors disappear.
	And your infant horrors won't disappear, but half your stuff will, including almost all of your optimism.
	Alright. Hi, Steph.
	My dad did very well in business and convinced me to sell most of my crypto when it had eclipsed $1,000 of Bitcoin.
	He made a joke years later that he sold all his real estate to purchase Bitcoin when the price of Bitcoin was nearly $50,000, implying it would be a speculative investment.
	He hasn't acknowledged that he gave me the poor investment advice even after it had gone 50 times up in price, but I haven't called him out about it.
	Is that why I have regret to this day about selling or is it simply the price?
	That is a very interesting Money and family.
	Money and family. Okay, we'll make this the last topic because it's not a tiny one.
	How old were you when you sold most of your crypto?
	When it was one...
	1 25th the price it is now.
	How old were you? Teens?
	20s? Just tell me that.
	Tell me that. I demand.
	26 years old. Okay. So, of course, at 26, you are 100% responsible for selling your own crypto.
	Okay. Right. Now, if I were your dad and I told you to sell the crypto and then it went up like crazy, what I personally would do is I would at least buy and give you back half your crypto saying, look, I'm older, I'm supposed to be this big businessman, I gave you advice, it was the worst possible advice, here's some crypto back.
	I can't give it all to you back because I can't afford it, but let me at least, I bought a bunch of crypto, here's half, you know, because, you know, he's your dad and...
	He gave you advice and the advice was really bad.
	And of course, you're both adults, but he's still your dad and he's got credibility from the business side of things as well, right?
	Now, if he's never acknowledged that he gave you poor investment advice, that's kind of mean, right?
	That's kind of mean. I don't quite understand.
	He made a joke years later that he sold all his real estate to purchase Bitcoin and the price of Bitcoin was nearly $50,000, implying it would be a speculative investment.
	Yeah. Yeah, the regret is that, I mean, this is why I don't give anybody, I don't tell anybody what to do and don't give anybody certainly any investment advice because you're all going to make your own decisions.
	I give you facts, information that I think is relevant, make your own decisions.
	But no, if I had told my daughter to sell an investment that later went up 50 times, I would feel wretched.
	I'd just feel wracked with guilt and I just gave her bad advice and I would do something to make it up for her.
	Of course I would, right?
	Absolutely I would do something to make it up.
	To her. A lot of people, like money just kind of disappears in the rear view, like bad financial choices, bad financial decisions, bad financial advice.
	So he bought a bunch of Bitcoin after convincing you to sell it.
	Gee, it'd be kind of funny if he bought it at 1k from you and then claimed later that he bought it at 50k.
	But no, it's really sad.
	It's really sad. It's really sad.
	I couldn't live with them.
	If I told my daughter to sell something and said, look, I've been an entrepreneur for 30 years.
	I'm really into this. I know all this.
	You're new. You're young.
	Trust me. Trust your old man.
	You've got to sell right now.
	It's going to go to zero. I'm trying to save you money, not cost you money.
	And then if I told them to save and it went up 25 or 50 times...
	I would make that up in some manner.
	I mean, I would have to. I mean, I couldn't live with myself if I'd given my daughter a particular advice and it would cost her a fortune.
	So somebody says, and thank you for getting me into Bitcoin so early.
	Well, the real value is not just the Bitcoin, really.
	The real value is seeing the nature of your father.
	Somebody says, I think I was missing some unconditional baby love.
	Yeah, most people are.
	Most people are. What's a good way to differentiate between the value for value model and transactional relationships?
	Well, I mean, all relationships that are productive and positive are transactional.
	In fact, all relationships are transactional.
	Even the sadist and the masochist is transactional.
	So, yeah, as an adult, you've got to prove things.
	As an adult, you have to be virtuous.
	As an adult, you have to earn things.
	And recognizing that and letting go of the infant formula of being loved in some abstract platonic way for who you are is one of the great maturation hurdles that very few people make it over.
	I understand being loved for who I am as people wanting a relationship with me because of my virtues and not just for my resources.
	But why are your virtues and your resources separate?
	Hard work is a virtue.
	Integrity is a virtue. Creativity is a virtue.
	I mean, they're positives, you could say, right?
	And so if you earn your money honorably through hard work, creativity, dedication, and imagination, why would your resources be completely separate from your virtues?
	This is why resources are attractive, because they mirror virtues.
	So, thinking that your virtues are somehow separate from your resources, I don't quite understand that.
	If your virtues and your resources were totally separate, then women wouldn't be attracted to the resources, right?
	You can be loved for your virtue and for what you can provide.
	Yeah, the two sides are the same coin.
	Oh, what was that...
	It was a soccer player, I think, whose wife divorced his ass and tried to take half his stuff,
	but it turned out that everything was owned by his mother, and he actually had to ask her for money to buy things.
	Um...
	Let's see here. Well, if it makes the Bitcoin guy feel better, Alex Jones lost a laptop with like $200 million worth of Bitcoin.
	Well, if Alex Jones, yeah, he got it.
	Max Kaiser gave it to him, right?
	So if Alex Jones lost the laptop with like $200 million worth of Bitcoin, well, given the whole Sandy Hook thing, he would have just lost that money to legal action.
	So he wouldn't get that money either way.
	Let's see here. What's interesting is that I showed him the debate you had with Peter Schiff, who was wholly wrong about Bitcoin and doesn't even remember you.
	Peter Schiff remembers me. Of course he does.
	All right. I think 40% of Bitcoins have been lost.
	It's crazy. And I still consult him about investment advice.
	I think I need to reconsider things.
	Thanks for being you, Steph. So here's the thing, right?
	You have these thoughts about your father.
	I understand and appreciate your thoughts about your father.
	You feel that he kind of did you wrong or certainly gave you bad advice, which he did.
	Objectively, empirically, he gave you really bad advice.
	And you're upset with him.
	So tell me this.
	Tell me this. What would be the most honest thing you could say to your father?
	You have a relationship with him.
	You are thinking things about him.
	You understand it's a form of betrayal in a relationship to have thoughts that you don't share.
	Important, relevant thoughts that you don't share.
	It's a form of betrayal.
	It's a form of lying.
	A very important form of lying.
	Lying by omission. Lying by withholding.
	You want to be close to your father.
	You want to respect your father.
	You want to be honest with your father.
	You have strong thoughts about your father, resentments about your father.
	Talk to him about these things.
	Otherwise, the relationship is false.
	Jim Cramer. Yeah, Jim Cramer is inverse.
	Jim Cramer is kind of a joke, right?
	So, in my view, I don't have any proof of this, just my particular opinion, not about Jim Cramer in particular, but financial advisors as a whole.
	They say that a stock is going to go down when their friends want to buy it.
	They're getting you to sell so their friends can buy it.
	Right? They are telling you that a stock is going to go up and that you should buy it when their friends want to sell it.
	And their friends are much more in the know.
	This is why I think the inverse sometimes works well.
	Oh, your dad doesn't remember me and still follows Peter.
	How do you know whether he remembers me or not, your dad?
	Right? I mean, he might have blanked out.
	No, it is really...
	It is really terrible that your father told you to sell and then said he bought at 50x what you sold at and hasn't ever mentioned that he told you to sell.
	And he's just hoping that you will avoid the topic because he's embarrassed and ashamed.
	And it's not a very mature way of dealing with it, of course.
	And I'm really sorry that he would be this sad and petty about it.
	But no, if...
	Wow, he could remember that, and it's just playing that card.
	Jesus, this is why you're the greatest of all time.
	Oh yeah, of course he remembers.
	Look, I mean... Costing your kid, however many, hundreds of thousands of dollars or more, costing your kid hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, no father will forget that.
	I mean, without some significant brain injury.
	And I think I just remember, was it Tim Poole was also said that his friend tried to get him to invest 5k in Bitcoin that would be worth $200 million right about now.
	But he never invested the 5k, never spent it either.
	Now the 5k is worth much less than the Bitcoin was worth $200 million.
	So yeah, it's rough.
	If a woman just wants you for your resources and doesn't like you as a person, doesn't respect you, doesn't like spending time with you, etc., that's when your virtues and resources are two separate things.
	No? See, here's the thing.
	I'm talking about self-protection for you guys.
	I wish to protect you like an ancient Zeus god or a grandfather.
	I wish to protect you.
	So this is why I'm saying...
	Always require evidence for virtue.
	Always require evidence for virtue.
	Empirical evidence, not just words, not just intentions, not noble aspirations or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Not murals or kabuki dances or anything.
	Require actual evidence for virtue.
	She said, ah, if a woman just wants you for your resources, well, then she doesn't want you for you.
	She just wants your resources and doesn't like you as a person.
	But this is the equivalent of the man who just wants to have sex with the woman but doesn't like her as a person.
	You keep your resources safe from such women by demanding proof of virtue.
	So let's say you meet a woman who's 25 years old.
	So 25 years old, she's been 8 years an adult.
	So she should have significant evidence of virtue.
	Significant evidence of virtue.
	And you look for that evidence of virtue.
	So you can look through her social media and you can see, has she stood up to the bad guys?
	Has she stood with the good guys?
	Has she pushed back against violence and lies and corruption and so on, right?
	Or has it just been like, oh, here's the shrimp I had for lunch?
	Oh, look, dusty, smoky eye in the Moroccan sunset.
	It's beautiful, right?
	I mean... Has she...
	I mean, we can see there's breadcrumbs, these trails of everyone throughout life.
	Has she shown?
	Did she volunteer at an animal shelter?
	Did she read books to the blind?
	Does she help out elderly people in the neighborhood?
	Just whatever, right? Or is it just like, ah, here I am traveling with my girlfriends.
	We're in Monte Carlo.
	Did she just blow her way across the continents like the very phallic wind?
	Boy, that sounds like a Neil Young song from hell, doesn't it?
	If she hasn't done any virtue, any virtuous things, if she hasn't stood up for good people,
	fought the good fight against evil doers, if she hasn't sacrificed any of her interests
	in order to advance the cause of goodness in the world.
	I'm out.
	Thank you.
	you Here's a short pier, honey.
	I suggest you take a long walk.
	Or wherever you go, you ain't coming to my bank account, right?
	I mean, when I met my wife, she had done great and kind and wonderful things in the world.
	I had done some pretty good things myself, so, boom, boom, boom.
	Evidence right there.
	Right? So you're on a date. Oh, what's your Instagram?
	Boom, boom, boom. Seems to be mostly just selfies and you trying to look cool and pretty and you're pretty and all that, but tell me about the good you've done in the world.
	This is the fundamental question you ask people.
	Tell me about the good you've done in the world.
	I get your pretty.
	Congratulations, you've got tits.
	Now, tell me about the good you've done in the world.
	Well, I try to approach life with the intentionality of expanding everyone's mental horizons.
	No, no, no. I mean, this is a bunch of nonsense.
	I don't know what that means. Tell me about the practical, empirical, measurable good you've done in the world.
	I want to know. I always want to be inspired by people who do good things, and I'm happy to talk about the good things that I've done in the world.
	And by the way, if you haven't done good things in the world, go do some good things in the world so you can answer this question when a woman of virtue asks you.
	Say, oh, tell me, tell me the good you've done in the world.
	I'd love to hear about it. That would be fascinating to me.
	Well, I've really worked hard on anti-racism.
	It's like, okay, tell me more about that.
	I mean, do you push back on collective negative statements about races?
	Oh, totally. Okay, good.
	to show me all of these wonderful things.
	I would like to know the evidence of the virtues you have achieved.
	Check if she's going to Dubai all the time, or at any time.
	What the hell happens to European girls over in Dubai staggers the imagination.
	All that seems nice, says someone, but people like my mom are evil and try to disguise it with displays of virtue for everyone to see.
	Right, but a good person...
	One of the first things you need to know as a good person is how to identify evil people.
	I mean, if you're a good doctor, don't you know how to identify illness, right?
	If you're a good nutritionist, don't you know how to identify unhealthy eating?
	I mean, that's 101, isn't it?
	If you're a golf instructor, don't you need to know what a bad swing looks like?
	You can't be a virtuous person if you don't know how to identify immorality.
	And you identify immorality by looking for consistency in empirical virtue combined with a lack of defensiveness when questioned.
	A good person welcomes skepticism about their virtue because it means the person has discernment and judgment, doesn't waste their time, doesn't let evil people in there.
	So people who come to me and say...
	I don't think you've done any good in the world.
	I'm like, hey, let's talk about it.
	I'm perfectly happy to hear that case.
	I've got nothing to hide. I've got no issues.
	I've got no problems with any of that.
	I love the fact that people will be skeptical about my virtue because it means they'll be skeptical about other people's virtue, which means they're probably going to be pretty safe to be around.
	Any last tips, just out of curiosity?
	Before we go, I think I've done a bit of a crackerjack of a show.
	I think I've provided massive value with pretty much every second or third syllable.
	So if you have any last impulses to throw up a couple of coins my way, I would be happy to dance for your entertainment and be your distraction during dinner.
	But yeah, just look for empirical virtues and be prepared to show your empirical virtues.
	And if you don't have any... Go get some and do some.
	Because you will not get a quality woman to commit to you if you don't have empirical virtues.
	You just won't. And it's a small price to pay.
	All right. Any last comments or questions?
	I am happy to hear.
	Oh, and really check out what are some good virtues for a guy to have?
	Well, provide and protect, right?
	Provide and protect. Provide and protect.
	Some charity, giving to good charities can be very helpful, volunteering some time, and so on.
	And just, you know, you can say, oh, you know, it could be, oh, here's a, this guy was being piled on on social media and I totally came to his aid.
	Like, look at this. I took on some real heat here trying to protect this guy from unjust accusations.
	Just read an article saying Dubai is safe for women.
	Was that probably just BS? I think as long as you end up cornered on a yacht, you're probably okay, as far as I can tell.
	But yeah, you know, maybe you've published a blog article where you're pushing back against some nonsense or promoting some important truth or things like that.
	So, something.
	It doesn't have to be, you know, like Atlas, you've held up the world single-handedly or something, but it does have to be something that...
	You can show that you have pushbacks against lies.
	Oh, you know, here this guy was talking about how much he liked spanking his kids and how important it was.
	And here I pushed back on all the data and I shared and I got into a real flame war and debate and just trying to do the right thing.
	You know, here's the thing. I I talked to my friends about circumcision convince them not to circumcise their kids
	blah blah blah blah blah Blah all of these things it's going to be evidence
	It's going to be evidence. You know, you want to get known as the finger-wagging Karen-based church lady of morality and the people around you.
	But yeah, there's a lot of things that you can do to make the world a better place.
	And it doesn't have to be so big and splashy like mine.
	It could be any number of things. So yeah, just have that evidence in hand when you get questions.
	All right, so we'll just wait for the last typey type to come in.
	I hate people cutting people off at the end.
	It's like somebody's got the perfect paragraph.
	It's like, oh, show's over, baby.
	We're done. Are you guys interested at all in Fox News and this Dominion settlement?
	Anybody? It's not really politics.
	Are you guys following that at all?
	Oh, just one. That's all right.
	It's not a big topic, but they just settled for a quarter of a billion dollars before they even went to trial.
	And, of course, I have some theories, but...
	What did Fox say that cost them so much?
	Well, okay, I can touch on this briefly.
	A couple of minutes more, and again, if you find it valuable, a tip would be appreciated.
	Okay, so Dominion had a whole bunch of guests on, Sidney Powell and other people who claimed that the 2020 election was hacked, stolen, blah, blah, blah, and Dominion voting systems had something to do with it.
	Dominion voting systems claims that, as a result, they got death threats and other threats of violence.
	They had to restructure their business. They lost money, and they sued for...
	What was it? $1.7 billion or something like that.
	And Fox News is facing another $2 million plus from another company.
	And the standard for defamation is tricky in the U.S. So you have to prove that the statement was false, of course.
	But you also have to prove one of two things.
	Either you have... Again, it's not legal advice, just my understanding of the law as an amateur.
	But you have to prove either actual malice, which is you knew the statements were false
	but you went ahead with them anyway in order to hurt the other person, or what's called
	a reckless disregard for the truth.
	That you just heard it, you never verified it, you broadcast it, it's a reckless disregard
	for the truth.
	And then you can get punitive, you can get damages and punitive, right, designed to prevent
	things from happening again kind of thing.
	So my understanding is that the prosecution or the Dominion voting company lawyers felt
	that they had, through discovery, gotten emails and texts from people inside Fox News saying
	we don't think that these claims are true, and then putting the people who...
	Made these claims on the air anyway.
	Now Fox, to their defense, says, well, we said that they might be true here, but we also said they were false over here.
	And the judge said, no, no, it's not a defense of defamation to say, well, you said this defamatory thing here, but you may have opposed it somewhere else in your...
	Right, that doesn't really work.
	So... And then the judge got mad because they said Rupert Murdoch is not particularly involved, and it turned out he kind of was, which would have changed discovery and so on.
	And the trial was supposed to start on Monday.
	It's Wednesday now. The trial was supposed to start on Monday, and I think basically at the very end they prevented the trial from occurring by offering up this three-quarters of a billion dollars, give or take, to settle the suit.
	So obviously I don't know why and could be any number of things, but My guess is it goes something along the lines of this.
	So my guess would be that their legal insurance covers damages, but not punitive damages, because punitive damages can get completely mental.
	So the insurance company will cover the damages, but will not cover punitive, which could have gone mental.
	So they're like, okay, we'll just do this, and we won't get hit with some...
	Because, you know, the Alex Jones thing really put a chill through everyone's heart, eurythmic style, right?
	So... They probably were concerned about that.
	They probably also would be concerned with reputational damage if it turned out to be very evident and proven and public and published that the Fox News executives and or hosts or both were saying behind the scenes they didn't think this stuff was true and then it turned out That they put people on who said it was true.
	That would be pretty bad for their reputation.
	The other thing too, if they perceive it to be a left-leaning judge and there's a left-leaning jury, who knows what's going to happen.
	And two other considerations is that if you are a conservative, then there's obviously a fair amount of hostility towards you in the mainstream media and in the In certain areas or aspects of the legal system which tend, in certain areas, to be somewhat leftist, and in the jury as well.
	So then what happens is, if you contradict yourself on the stand, then what happens if you get this talk of hitting you with a perjury charge, right?
	That's pretty tricky, right?
	Like, I mean, if you're interviewed by some alphabet agency, you've seen people get interviewed and they say, What were you doing last Thursday?
	And they'll talk to their lawyers and they'll come back and they'll say, I refer you to my previous statement, right?
	Because they don't want to say, I was at a restaurant.
	And they said, no, no, no, no. Before you said you were at a pub.
	Now you're saying at a restaurant. Only one of these can be true.
	Which time were you lying? And then you can get in real...
	So, I think the concern might have been that, you know, they bring people in and they try to trick them into some sort of contradictory statement and then maybe start advocating for perjury and then, you know, you've gone from civil to criminal and it's a whole kind of...
	So that would be...
	The other thing too, who knows, right?
	It would never shock me if crazy elements in society were also threatening people and people, their families and so on, right?
	So it could be any number of things.
	So it is probably something that it's just they just chalk it up to cost of doing business and they will move on.
	Now part of the settlement is that the Anchors or the public personalities have to say that they were wrong and they have to apologize on air and things like that.
	But it's a pretty wild situation.
	And, you know, I mean, the concerns about what's going on in the legal systems in the West as a whole is pretty significant these days.
	So, yeah, that would be...
	Well, MSNBC have to pay millions for spreading Russia collusion every day.
	Well, no. No, of course not.
	Of course not. Because it's kind of tough to find the aggrieved party there, right?
	You have to have standing in a case, right?
	I mean, some guy from the Arctic can't sue about Russia collusion because they'll say, well, how did that cost you?
	What did it, you know, how did it harm you in material, objective fashion, right?
	So... We'll see, and we'll see what happens with the next lawsuit.
	But I think that post-Alex Jones, the lawyer's advice is probably like, well, okay, just let the insurance company pay it.
	We've got to settle, and we've got to move on and take the next one.
	And the next judgment's probably going to be even higher because they know that they settled last time.
	A lot of the legwork has been done.
	We shall see. I find this stuff quite interesting.
	So again, I don't know much about the law, but that's sort of my amateur outside understanding.
	If you have any legal questions, please call the lawyer.
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