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May 30, 2020 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux

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George Floyd Autopsy Shocker!

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	This is Stefan Molyneux from Free Domain.
	I hope that you're doing...
	You know what?
	I really can't even say that.
	I really can't even say that I hope you're doing well.
	I guess all I can say is, particularly if you're in the US or other places as well, all I can say is that I hope you are staying safe.
	That, I think, is the most important thing.
	Good evening. Good evening.
	It is 11 o'clock on the 29th of May, 2020.
	And yeah, a lot has been going on today.
	And I did want to drop in.
	It's actually my fourth show today, believe it or not.
	But I did want to drop in and talk to you about what has been going on with this George Floyd situation.
	Of course, the riots are, I don't even know what to say, out of control, because that would be to indicate that there's some sort of riot that is in control.
	But it's gone pretty nuts.
	And shortly after I did my show earlier this afternoon where I talked about the potential or likelihood of George Floyd having underlying health conditions and so on, well, the preliminary autopsy has been released.
	And we're going to go over that and we want to talk a little bit about...
	The attack on the CNN headquarters in Atlanta, the troubles at the White House, and just this relatively patiently well-programmed insurrection that really is occurring across America and may, of course, spread to other parts of the West and so on.
	But it is really, really something else.
	Minneapolis and St. Paul, according to a listener, are under martial curfew and martial law.
	Why are people protesting on CNN?
	Well, people should be protesting at CNN.
	The dude didn't suffocate.
	Well, we'll get to that.
	Hello.
	Good evening.
	Thank you for joining me tonight.
	And I will, of course, be taking your questions, and we will be getting into the facts which are being released.
	I can't explain for the life of me why it is.
	That they're taking such a long time to get this stuff out there.
	It's just nuts. I mean, the fact that, I guess, the preliminary autopsy has just come out.
	Free Domain has been on YouTube for like 10 years.
	I've got to tell you, it's frankly a whole lot longer than 10 years.
	It's 14 years that I've been on YouTube.
	I was basically YouTube's third user or something like that.
	It was pretty early on that this all happened with me and YouTube, so...
	That was the situation.
	And so, let me just make sure that I can see everyone, everyone's comments.
	So, let's go through this preliminary autopsy.
	There will be a further... Autopsy, that is coming along, I assume, but obviously they want to get the information out.
	This came out an hour or two after I finished my last live stream.
	George Floyd died Monday from a combination of pre-existing health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers, not from strangulation or asphyxiation based on the medical examiner's initial report.
	Preliminary findings from a Tuesday autopsy conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner found, quote, no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation, according to the criminal complaint filed Friday against former officer Derek Michael Chauvin.
	Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease, said the complaint from the Hennepin County attorney.
	The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.
	Now, there's some real questions about all this.
	The Minneapolis police officer fired earlier this week was charged Friday with third-degree murder and manslaughter after kneeling on Mr.
	Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds.
	Video showed he was unresponsive for the last two minutes and 53 seconds.
	The complaint said, and I quote, Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous.
	Now that strikes me as quite interesting and curious.
	And I don't know if they're trained in this.
	I'm going to assume that they are.
	And so if they're trained that this type of restraint, in other words, knee on the neck with the subject in a prone position, is inherently dangerous, that does not seem to be the case that it's banned, right?
	That doesn't seem to be the case that it's banned.
	So if he was trained in its use, if it's allowed but they're warned that it can be dangerous, and if, as was the case with Eric Garner, who had underlying health issues, no physical findings support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation, Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions, no physical findings support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation, Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions, including
	The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions, and any potential intoxicants in his systems likely contributed to his death.
	Now, so this stuff helps and stuff doesn't help with regards to this.
	So... I really want to be clear again.
	This doesn't justify what the police did, and it may be that the charges that are laid against Chavez, which are third-degree murder, manslaughter, and so on, that's when you don't intend to kill someone, but your actions result in that person's death, and you had a reasonable expectation of risk or danger, blah, blah, blah. So it may be that what the police officer did Will result in a just and fair manslaughter or third-degree murder charge.
	But this does put into the grave the argument that he was just choked out in cold blood by some psycho-racist cop who, whatever, just decided to murder someone in full, broad daylight while being filmed and having a body cam on his own chest.
	So, that narrative must be put by the wayside.
	Now, people say his heart could not pump blood to his brain because his carotid artery was being squished.
	Well, that's another question that I have, and we'll, of course, get this when more details come out.
	I don't know if strangulation simply means blocking of the airwaves or whether strangulation also includes the carotid artery.
	That we don't know.
	I also know that there's something called the eggshell defense, which is that if somebody has a particular frailty, That doesn't necessarily exonerate you from their injuries.
	Like if you, I don't know, push someone and it turns out that they've got a sore shoulder or they've got osteoporosis or brittle whatever, right?
	If you injure them, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're not to blame, even though you said, hey man, I had no idea that this was the situation.
	So, we saw the video.
	Somebody says, he died slowly with plenty of time for any reasonable human to realize he was dying.
	Ah, you know, see, this is the thing, man.
	I get where you're coming from.
	You know, I get where you're coming from.
	But here's the thing.
	I mean, when you sit and watch that video, you already know that poor George Floyd is going to die.
	You already know that.
	And... Saying, well, it was totally obvious to everyone, that's a tough case to make, man.
	That is a tough case to make.
	Somebody says, a blood choke puts a person unconscious instantly.
	There isn't a point where someone says they can't breathe further.
	It can't be done with a knee.
	It's not possible. Mike Serinovich, of course, who knows something about mixed martial arts, has said that this is not something you would see in mixed martial arts, but then this is not a situation of all of that.
	We have very little info from a tiny video, says someone, and that is certainly...
	True. We don't have enough video.
	We do know that he resisted arrest.
	We do know that at least the police have reported that he was intoxicated, George Floyd, when they got there, and we don't know.
	Somebody says he died of ventilatory failure.
	Look at minute... Sorry, I don't really know what that means in particular.
	So, blood supply was not cut off, says Valor.
	Watch a real blood choke, and the person goes unconscious instantly.
	It's not a matter of seven minutes.
	It's instantly the knee on the neck was unneeded.
	No damage to his neck, says the coroner.
	I don't think that that's exactly what the coroner says, unless there's more that I haven't seen.
	How do we know he was already going to die from the video?
	Because the video says, here's the video of the guy who was killed in Minneapolis, right?
	So, let's see here.
	The cop should have paid better attention.
	Now, listen, I get...
	Where you're all coming from.
	I really do. And hindsight, with the knowledge of the outcome, it's a very easy game to play.
	It's a very easy game to play.
	And so you can say the cop shouldn't have put his knee there.
	Well, obviously, in hindsight, I'm sure that the cop would agree with you that he shouldn't put his knee there.
	But the other thing you got to remember, like this came right on the heels of Ahmaud Arbery.
	And so when you look at all of these situations, you've got Freddie Gray, you've got Trayvon Martin, you've got Mike Brown, you've got Sterling, you have Ahmaud Arbery, you have this poor man.
	The cops know for absolute certain that there's going to be massive scrutiny, significant danger, and possibly the entire ruination of their life should they make a mistake, particularly when arresting A black suspect.
	So that is something you kind of have to remember.
	And again, it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a trial.
	Of course, I guess there should be a trial in this situation.
	I don't have enough of the information, but there basically has to be a trial because of these riots and so on.
	But it's really, really easy.
	Did distress his pre-existing conditions?
	Well... How did you know he was going to die when you saw the video?
	Because. It was like, here's the guy who died.
	Oh, come on. I don't need to keep asking this, right?
	What do you mean he was resisting arrest?
	Have you got video of this, Stefan?
	Yes. Well, not I. I don't have video of it, of course, right?
	But if you look online, there are videos.
	It's taken, I think, from the cop car, and it's shooting ahead.
	I'm sorry. Let me know. The cop is...
	The camera is angled ahead, and the cops are trying to half-wrestle the man out of his car, and he is not...
	He is not agreeing with them, not on all that, right?
	So that's kind of important.
	It wasn't obvious to the cops he was going to die.
	If people believe all four cops knew he was going to die from it, then you're crazy.
	Of course, like, what benefit would the cop have in just killing this guy, right?
	So, I don't know.
	I don't know. And we'll find out, of course, other factors that could be coming into play.
	First of all, the cops said that he was intoxicated.
	Their words, right? We'll find out if that's true.
	And I assume that the toxicology is being rushed in this particular situation, but if the toxicology report comes back...
	See, like...
	So, George Floyd had a long history with cocaine, and this is something really, really important to understand.
	He had a long history with cocaine...
	It seems like he was an addict.
	He was at one point charged with being a dealer, although those charges were later downgraded.
	But he did have a long history with cocaine.
	Now, oh yes, this is the eggshell skull rule.
	Let me just mention this. The eggshell skull rule, also known as the thin skull rule, is a principle which says that the frailty, weakness, sensitivity, or feebleness of a victim cannot be used as a defense in a tort case.
	Attorneys often invoke the eggshell skull rule when the negligence of the defendant aggravates a victim's pre-existing injury or condition.
	In simple terms, the rule says you must take the victim as he or she is found and cannot speculate on what might have happened if the victim had, quote, normal health or did not have a particular condition that predisposed them to a severe injury.
	This rule protects victims from their own vulnerability, something over which they have no control.
	And I can only say that somebody sent that to me.
	I haven't verified it, but that does seem to be something to come into play.
	Of course, this would be criminal, not civil, but that's...
	That's important. So listen, here's an issue.
	So if you are a cocaine abuser, which is to say you use cocaine, then cocaine can create damage in your arteries, in the arteries around your heart that most medical tests can't even find.
	And it does have even relatively young, healthy people have sudden heart attacks that appear to come out of nowhere.
	And that could be the issue, right?
	It could be the issue. That as a result of his Prior cocaine use, perhaps he had relapsed.
	Maybe that's what was going on.
	So cocaine gives you the sense of grandiosity that has you create philosophy shows.
	It gives you a sense of grandiosity, and this may be one of the reasons why he felt he could get away with stuff like passing along the bill, or I've also heard it referred to as some sort of forgery.
	I don't know what any of that means.
	But let me give you a little bit on the situation with regards to I assume that for you lovely listeners, this is essential information for you to have.
	Let's talk about this, because this might have an effect on what happened.
	Now, if it turns out that these sort of underlying health issues were big and serious enough And if it turns out he'd also gone back on cocaine or was on cocaine, and if it turned out that his heart was half blown out because of cocaine, these things are going to have an effect on how this plays out, right?
	Okay, so cocaine's heart damage is often undetectable, and this is from Live Science.
	Using cocaine can damage the heart's smallest vessels, but this problem doesn't show up on routine medical tests, according to a new study.
	And this is from, yes, this is Live Science.
	We see many emergency room admissions because patients experience chest pain following cocaine use, said this study researcher.
	However, a test such as an angiogram that looks at blood flow in the heart's main arteries would appear normal, leaving doctors without an explanation for the chest pain, Kumar said.
	So you can get into more details about this, but that is a pretty significant test.
	A situation which may play out when the toxicology report comes back or comes out.
	So we will find out about all of that as we go forward.
	So let's look at what's going on man.
	What is going down in this crazy world of 2020?
	We're not even half done yet.
	We're not even half done.
	Let's look at what's going on.
	I have practiced not smiling about this for quite some time, but it is kind of important to notice that CNN, headquarters in CNN, It's being overrun by leftist protesters that they themselves have whipped into a frenzy.
	Many are defacing and vandalizing the giant CNN logo outside the building, says Benny Johnson.
	You're watching Dr. Frankenstein get destroyed by his own monster.
	And yeah, graffiti on the CNN, there's riots, and they're of course using...
	Cops enforced to defend themselves.
	I guess they have found the cops to be not quite so racist now that they need them in order to protect themselves.
	So I guess that's what happens when you piss gasoline on the fire that you've created that you end up with even more of this kind of stuff.
	So yeah, we need the final autopsy.
	We need the toxicology report.
	We need the body cam video and all of that.
	And we will find out.
	These are the kinds of protests I said British parents should have had over the mass immigrant rape of their own children.
	Yes, that certainly is.
	Yes, that certainly is the case.
	Now, there are, of course, a lot of people and a lot of Christians and people that I like, Kaya Jones and so on, who had talked about how he was a reformed man, a man of God.
	And listen, I understand that.
	I've got to tell you, to be honest, because I've been lied about so much by the mainstream media, whenever the mainstream media starts talking about things like the beloved bouncer, it's just like, oof, as soon as they start conditioning you right up front with all of this stuff, that's pretty important, right? So, I did write about this.
	On Twitter, and if you're not following me on Twitter, I don't know why you have a computer.
	So people do say he was a man of God.
	He turned his life around. He was creating videos for kids to not be violent and so on.
	But here's the reality.
	George Floyd was a career criminal.
	He had a multi-decade career as a criminal.
	He'd been sent to the pen for a nickel.
	And people say he was reformed, but that's just not—because a reformed criminal doesn't commit more crimes.
	That's sort of the point of being a reformed criminal.
	So we know at least two crimes the day he died.
	One we can see, the other is reported, and the other is also reported, but not by the cops as far as I know.
	So he committed at least two crimes the day that George Floyd died.
	One, he was driving while intoxicated, according to the police.
	Number two, we can see him resisting arrest, also illegal.
	And three, is this possible forgery or counterfeiting, which he may or may not have had any knowledge of.
	It might have been that he passed a bad bill without knowing it.
	All of these things were certainly possible.
	And that is a reality.
	So if you think, oh, you know, he turned his life, he turned his life around and so on.
	No, no, the day that he died.
	And I get this sort of after this because of this fallacy, right?
	So after this because of this fallacy is important.
	So because... George Floyd died after he was stopped by police doesn't mean he died because he was stopped by police.
	There are a whole series of dominoes that have to fall down for George Floyd to end up dead, which is a very sad thing.
	Don't get me wrong. It'd be much better if the guy hadn't died.
	I get all of that. But if he hadn't been intoxicated, maybe he would have made better decisions.
	If he hadn't resisted arrest...
	Then he wouldn't have ended up with his face down on the pavement.
	There's all of these if, if, if statements.
	And so this is kind of important.
	So somebody said, none of which justifies the treatment he got during his apprehension.
	He was no longer a threat and the police cut off his access to oxygen.
	False is on them for that. So again, the autopsy reports no evidence of asphyxiation.
	And so it's hard to sort of figure out what people are talking about when there's actually an autopsy.
	Again, it's preliminary and there's going to be more that is going to be done, but that is a pretty important reality of the situation that he did continue to commit crimes.
	So Kaya Jones, again, love the lady, but she said, if you care to know who George Floyd was, read this, please.
	He was a godly man, and there's something on Christianity Today.
	But come on! In his mid-30s, George Floyd's criminal gang performed a home invasion where he jammed a gun in a woman's belly so he could ransack her house for money and drugs.
	Come on. In his 30s.
	Okay, there's youthful indiscretions and this kind of stuff.
	I get all of that.
	I get all of that.
	But... The reality still remains he was continuing to commit these kinds of crimes.
	And I did tweet about this. I did about 12 hours ago.
	As early as the 1920s, communists promised to escalate racial tensions in America in order to destroy the republic.
	It only took a century. And of course, that is their...
	That is their goal. Somebody asked me, what is the voluntarist solution to what's happening in Minneapolis?
	And I'm a voluntarist, a stateless society advocate.
	And you're coming to a nutritionist for advice about a heart attack.
	These problems have all been created by the state.
	By the state.
	And that is really, really important to remember.
	So, that's sort of the major updates that I wanted to get across.
	I'm happy to take a couple of cues before I shut down this...
	Shut it down. This relatively short live stream.
	I did want to drop in this.
	If anything can be saved, if I can save one building, if I can save one life, if we together through liking, sharing, and subscribing what we're doing can do all of this, then it's worth staying up a little bit late.
	All right. So if you have any other questions, how do I think he died then?
	That is, how about you don't speculate on cocaine use until there's evidence he was on it?
	Well, I'm not speculating about cocaine use, because he was busted in the past for cocaine.
	So I'm not speculating on that part of things.
	I don't know, of course, if he was on cocaine when he was...
	When he was arrested? So, no.
	One of those is not speculation.
	Somebody wants to start a race war.
	Well, yeah, of course. I mean, that's natural for the leftists to do.
	So, the other question, I suppose, that's worth discussing, like, my gosh, what are the odds?
	Look at these last two incidents, right?
	Ahmaud Arbery and George Floyd.
	Now, what are the odds that the people who killed and the people who died knew each other?
	It's a big country. And I don't even know all the people who live on my street.
	I mean, what are the odds that the policemen And George Floyd had worked together as security at a nightclub for quite a long time, which to me means that they knew each other.
	They would have to know each other.
	They would be passing people back and forth.
	They'd be passing information back and forth.
	So to me, they would have known each other.
	And if that's the case, did the policeman know about George Floyd's criminal history?
	It's possible. Now, if, like, Floyd was like six foot six, I mean, he was a big, beefy fella.
	And if he's intoxicated, if he's aggressive, that is, you know, when you're looking up somebody's nostrils, that's a pretty alarming situation to be in.
	And if he also knew, as the McMichaels knew about Ahmaud Arbery's history, because the elder McMichael had actually investigated him not too far in the distant past before the tragic encounter down there in Georgia.
	If the elder McMichael knew about Ahmaud Arbery's criminal history, if this policeman in Minneapolis also knew about George Floyd's criminal history, that is a whole other wrinkle when it comes to all of this.
	So, let's see here.
	The copper is responsible.
	End of story. Everything else is bull poop.
	It doesn't matter. It was still murder.
	Eat poop. You know, I get it.
	I mean, I understand. We all want to just make things simple.
	We all just want to jump in there and join the mob with their pitchforks and their brands, and we just want to grab some rope and do justice.
	So we'll see. We'll see.
	And listen, I'm entirely open, of course, to the reality that the cop committed manslaughter or third-degree murder.
	I get all of that. But the idea, because that's not the narrative.
	The narrative that there was an accidental death that had a lot to do with underlying medical conditions, that is a very different narrative than what is causing all these riots.
	What's causing all these riots is black men are being hunted and murdered in the street by racist white cops in cold blood, like all of that real sociopathic, borderline, splitting, monstrous kind of behavior.
	That narrative, that's what caused it.
	Like the fact that this guy died in police custody is a terrible thing.
	It's a terrible, terrible thing.
	That he had underlying health conditions, that it was not asphyxiation or strangulation that caused his death.
	That is a very different narrative.
	It could be that he was high.
	It could be that, as I talked about earlier, if he had said to the cops something like, I'm sick with something or other, and spat at them or tried to bite them or something like that, then if he weaponized his whole body, then that might be why the guy kept his...
	Knee on the guy's neck. I don't know how much weight he put on the guy's neck.
	If there was no damage to the neck, it can't have been that much.
	So we shall see.
	He did not resist arrest. You've got to go watch those videos.
	I know that there's the one in front of the restaurant.
	There's another video, I think, which came from the cop car.
	All right.
	This is the worst hot take I've heard.
	I absolutely hope. I hope that this is a bad take.
	You know, maybe there is something that has been completely missed by me or the people I've read about and so on and all of that, right?
	So we're going to have to just see.
	He deserved death for the home invasion robbery he committed.
	Well, no, I mean, that's not a death penalty situation, but it's terrifying.
	I mean, it's absolutely terrifying.
	So what happened was, I think one of the members of the gang, I assume...
	One of the members of the gang pretended to be knocked on the door and said, I'm here to check the gas meter.
	I'm here from the gas company.
	The woman opened, realized it wasn't the case, tried to shut it, and they all slammed their way in.
	And George Floyd held a gun to her belly and dragged her into the living room.
	I'm sure she thought she was going to be dead or gang raped or gang raped to death or something like that.
	And then he ransacked her place looking for drugs and money.
	He took some jewelry.
	He took her cell phone, and they just ran off.
	I mean, absolutely, completely, totally terrifying situation.
	And the woman's life has never been the same.
	Again.
	So, you know, the thing is, too.
	So, I mean, again, I've talked about this before, but the young black male community's relationship with the police is not good.
	Is not good.
	And that is to a large degree because the young male black community commits crimes at a truly staggering level.
	That is...
	Unprecedented to any other group that I know of.
	So, you know, as I've talked about before, the prevalence of criminal activity, which is not to say the owning of the Federal Reserve, which is the real crime, but the prevalence of criminal activity tends to fall along IQ lines, right?
	So East Asians, Japanese, Koreans, and so on, they commit the least crime, and then whites commit more crime, and then Hispanics commit more crime than whites, and blacks commit more crime than Hispanics.
	And this falls perfectly along the general IQ divisions.
	And just remember, never, ever judge an individual by group averages, but when we are talking about large aggregations of data, it's valid to bring these things into force.
	So there is a very, very horrifying relationship that black males as a whole in general, not, of course, everyone, have with the police.
	And it's a predator-prey relationship, and the predation and the prey kind of flick back and forth between this.
	And so, I mean, all criminals, regardless of race, have a very uneasy and hostile relationship with the police, and this is the case with the black community.
	And then, of course, see, the thing is that they have so many people in the media.
	This is not true of the black community, but all the communities say, well, the only reason that black youths commit such high levels of crime is because of white racism and slavery and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and all of that kind of stuff.
	And, you know, I think it's fair to say that the Holocaust was worse than slavery.
	If I had a choice, I'd rather be a slave than in a Nazi death camp.
	And after the Jewish Europeans came to America after the Holocaust.
	It took them only four years to achieve income parity with whites.
	And this is after thousands of years of repression, suppression, exclusion, pogroms being hunted and being kicked out and so on in European countries.
	And, you know, that's longer than the situation that occurred with the blacks.
	And the Holocaust is worse than slavery.
	And the Jews, because Jews have extraordinarily high verbal IQ in particular, they can bounce back very quickly from these kinds of historical horrors.
	And so people that can't...
	And if you look at countries like Japan and Germany, two very high IQ civilizations...
	They bounced back from the Second World War where they were bombed end-to-end.
	Japan had two nukes dropped on it, and the firestorms in Tokyo and other cities in Japan were just absolutely monstrous.
	They can bounce back pretty quickly.
	So there is... A lot of complexity.
	Yes, there's racism. Yes, there is poverty.
	Yes, there is single motherhood and so on.
	These are all factors, without a doubt.
	but we're only ever allowed to talk about white racism, which is itself, of course, extraordinarily racist.
	All right.
	1950s African-American families were models of good American Christian values.
	Well, yeah. So, I mean, that's very, very sad stuff.
	The great Dr. Sowell wrote about this, how he went back to his old neighborhood and kids couldn't play in the parks and there were drug addicts and needles and everywhere.
	And he's like, that's not how it was when I was a kid at all.
	Very, very sad.
	All right.
	Stefan, you are wrong.
	You can tell how much weight is on his neck because of the cop's opposite foot moving all over the place.
	He was not resisting arrest.
	Clerk thought the $2 bill was fake.
	It was murder.
	Okay, we'll find out.
	If the cop's opposite foot was moving all over the place, the foot can move and you can still have weight on your leg, right?
	You can just try it, right? You can go and kneel and you can lift your foot off the ground.
	I've actually tried this, right?
	You can lift your foot off the ground while you're kneeling down.
	So we'll see. He was not resisting arrest.
	No, he was resisting arrest because...
	When they're trying to get him out of his car, he was not cooperating.
	The clerk thought the $2 bill was fake.
	Well, that's not particularly relevant to anything.
	Let's say it was a $2 bill.
	The clerk is mandated by his company policy to report any counterfeiting to the police.
	And if it was a $2 bill that was fake, then, of course, this man, George Floyd, would have sat there and waited for the police and come to the police, but he was in trouble.
	Right? So the question is, why did this escalate so much?
	Because I got to tell you, I mean, there aren't $2 bills in Canada anymore.
	We have what are called toonies, because loonies is the $1 bill, because apparently we're 12.
	But if I'm in a store and I pass it over a fin, right, I'm passing over a $5 bill, the clerk says, hey, I think this is counterfeit.
	I'm going to call the cops. I'm like, hey, well, anything I can do to help?
	Sure. I mean, I'll try and remember where I got it from.
	And then I would talk to the cops and say, wow, I'm really sorry.
	I certainly didn't know, but what can I do to help?
	I mean, the cops are going to – it's going to be fine.
	I mean, I've been pulled over.
	You've been pulled over. We've talked to cops.
	Cops a couple years ago banged on my door, and I opened it up, and they're like, hey, you shouldn't leave your garage open.
	Okay. Thanks, officer.
	Thank you for not arresting me for being on Twitter.
	And so the $2 bill, the counterfeit bill, whether it's $2, $10, or $20, I've heard a variety of things, it's not relevant to the situation.
	He did not die because there was a counterfeit bill in play.
	So my guess is that he pays, I assume, that...
	I don't think he knew it was a counterfeit bill if that was the situation, right?
	I don't think he knew that. But here's the problem, right?
	So the problem is that he drove to the store because he was in his car and he's intoxicated, according to the cops, right?
	And again, we'll find out from the toxicology report.
	Maybe the cops are lying.
	But I think that would be a bit of a stretch for the cops to report on that when it wasn't true at all, the toxicology report.
	And he can't have been just a little bit intoxicated because the cop said he's intoxicated.
	So I think that he passes along the bill.
	The clerk says, this is counterfeit.
	I need to call the cops.
	And he freaks out because he's intoxicated and he drove to the store.
	And so if the cops say, where do you live?
	Where did you live?
	Oh, that's a long way away. How did you get here?
	I drove. Well, you appear to be intoxicated.
	So that's a DUI right there, right?
	Now, that's not what you want to be doing with your day.
	So I'm sure that there was a certain amount of frustration.
	And of course, if he was intoxicated, he's not going to be making good decisions.
	None of this, of course, and I hate to have to keep saying this, none of this means that he should have died or anything like that.
	I'm just talking about all of this, right?
	So, let's do a couple more questions.
	Let's see if we can do some good about it.
	He was handcuffed, absolutely.
	He was handcuffed without a single solitary doubt.
	He was handcuffed.
	And my guess...
	It's just a guess, but my guess is that he threatened the police in some manner where they felt that handcuffs weren't enough.
	In other words, he might have said, I have AIDS, I have COVID, and he spat at them or maybe tried to bite them.
	That may be all nonsense, but there's some reason why they put a restraint on him over and above the handcuffs, and that will probably get from the body cam.
	We'll see. We'll see.
	The police union in Minnesota is powerful.
	Hi, Steph. Great to see you in Australia.
	Thanks. I appreciate that.
	I would love to come back, but there's a Chinese commie virus between us.
	Something has come between us.
	Well, you know, the thing is, look, there is going to be a huge amount of...
	You know, okay, let's get sociological for a sec.
	So I do think that there's going to be a huge amount of...
	Easing of tensions in the long run over this kind of stuff.
	So first and foremost, it sort of reminds me sort of way back in the O.J. days, right?
	So in the O.J. days, O.J. got away with murder, plain and simple.
	In my humble opinion, he's absolutely guilty.
	He's totally guilty. I don't think it was his son.
	I don't think it was a stranger. I think that he half cut off Ron Goldman's and Nicole Brown Simpson's head, and he was a complete psycho who murdered those two people, and it was pretty damn obvious.
	And then he got off, and the blacks were all cheering.
	Not all. A lot of them, right?
	Some of them were appalled, but a lot of them were cheering.
	And that was a big shift in race relations in the U.S. Now, this particular situation, it's going to be kind of tough.
	For the race baiters, whether they're in the mainstream media or anywhere else, it's going to be really tough for the race baiters to start talking about how bad historical lynching was when you have this kind of situation going on.
	And, I mean, I already have issues with regards to, you know, the percentage of, say, blacks on welfare.
	You know, when you're on welfare, you are taking other people's resources against their will by force using the power of the state, you know.
	Like a little shadow of slavery.
	So, all of that.
	All right. O.J. could have been president.
	Oh, God. Can you imagine?
	Can you imagine?
	All right. A couple more questions because you guys are way too interesting.
	But I really should.
	Again, I said I had like four shows today.
	And I've got a really, really great interview coming.
	It's taking so long to process, though, I've got to leave it running overnight.
	So, let's see here.
	Oh, the autopsy shocker was that George Floyd did not die from asphyxiation or strangulation.
	No reason to keep a knee on an unconscious person's throat.
	See, here's the thing, man.
	You know he's unconscious because you know what happened afterwards.
	If you're a cop, the number of people who fake illnesses, who complain about pain, who say that they're dying, that they can't breathe, who pretend to be unconscious and then attack you...
	It's not a tiny number.
	It's not everyone, but it's not a tiny number.
	And people who are big and powerful with a criminal history and who are intoxicated, they're unpredictable.
	And so there may have been no good reason for the officer to put his knee on George Floyd's neck.
	There may have been no reason whatsoever.
	And they're trained that it's Inadvisable, they're trained that it's potentially dangerous, but as far as I understand it, they can do it, and I don't know all that happened that transpired to the point where the police officer felt the need to do that.
	We shall see.
	So, people watching the cops said he was unconscious.
	There were four officers. Yeah, but you don't know.
	You don't know.
	He might be faking.
	Again, now we know in hindsight, yeah, it was a bad call, terrible call, right?
	So we will see.
	Molyneux, come on, stop making it light.
	Oh, I'm not making it light.
	So, we'll see. Antifa and the anarcho-syndicalists joining in.
	Oh, yeah, well, of course, Antifa.
	Antifa are heavily on the left, and the left has promised to use racial conflict to bring down freedom and destroy capitalism and all of that.
	When did you become a bootlicker?
	I think it was pretty much the moment they started making chocolate boots.
	This is planned chaos?
	Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	Why didn't people riot about the lockdown?
	Because it was mostly affecting white people.
	I don't know. I mean, let's see here.
	It was not on his throat. It was on the side of his face.
	No one would care, Steph. It would be like, oh, Jay, he got away with murder and all that.
	What are the training standards for Minnesota law enforcement officers once a suspect reports physical distress?
	Don't know. We will find out.
	We will find out.
	You're making a lot of assumptions about what cops must be thinking.
	Come on, man! Look, I mean, if you're not able to follow hypotheticals and conjectures, Robert, you've got to go to some other channel where people talk about things that are a bit more monosyllabic.
	Do you believe the officers started the riots in Minneapolis?
	No, I don't believe that.
	People expect police officers to be psychic wizards, for God's sakes.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right.
	What does the MA mean? It means I have a Master's in Arts.
	I have a graduate degree from the University of Toronto in the history of philosophy, or in history, but my focus was on the history of philosophy.
	All right. Despite this kind of thing being usually a lie by the MSM so far, I have not seen any reason to defend the COP in this case so far.
	I don't either. I don't know if the cop is right or wrong, but I'm going to keep following the facts no matter what.
	And if the facts lead that this guy broke training, that this guy used excessive force, that he's guilty of third-degree murder or manslaughter, fantastic.
	You know, justice will be served and a great wrong will have been righted.
	Maybe he died of complications from his drugs.
	Well, it really does...
	Depend on the toxicology report, which we don't have as yet.
	Cutting off blood flow is also not asphyxiation.
	I don't know. Is it considered strangulation?
	Is strangulation only the air?
	Or if you block the carotid, is that also considered strangulation?
	I don't know. Anarcho-capitalist cop lover.
	I like facts. Don't get me wrong.
	Do you watch Corbett Report?
	I actually hosted the Corbett Report many years ago when he was on holiday, but no, I haven't watched it in a while, and I've been meaning to contact him, so...
	He stood on his neck.
	No, he didn't stand on his neck.
	What did he die of then?
	I don't know. I don't know.
	But he didn't die from asphyxiation.
	He didn't die from strangulation.
	So, we'll see.
	The cops knelt on his neck for eight minutes straight.
	Or for an ampersand minute straight.
	Yes, that does seem to be the case.
	So... Forget it, Steph.
	People only need their base emotions in this day and age.
	Why think? Sorry.
	Get this back. This is scrolling too quick.
	Why think...
	Yeah, we'll see. Listen, I mean, there have been times, of course, where the cop has been found guilty, and that's particularly fine.
	How does this take priority over the pandemic?
	Well, I think so.
	Go on Crowder's show again.
	That is how I found you. Yeah, give him a ping.
	Tell him that you want me back.
	So... Yeah, I did say it was pretty hard to justify when I first saw it, and I understand that, and we will...
	We will see. Hypoxia or stroke from no blood flow to the brain.
	I don't know if that's covered under strangulation or asphyxiation or not.
	I don't know. I don't know.
	Saying I can't breathe is often said when suspects are being restrained.
	I hear the police usually say, if you can talk, you can breathe.
	We'll see. We'll see.
	And you believe the autopsy.
	Is it that far-fetched to think it was made up?
	Oh, dude. Of course it could be, but you've got to put yourself in the shoes, the rather squishy shoes of the medical examiner, right?
	So this is being investigated by the FBI. There's going to be countless people combing over every single square inch of all of this.
	There's going to be independent autopsies.
	There's going to be reviews of everything that the autopsy guy did.
	If the guy, I don't know, his hyoid bone was broken.
	He had bruises all around his neck.
	His vertebrae was cracked.
	If you cover that up, And release this, and you're going to get caught.
	Like, the Eye of Sauron is all over this, right?
	So the idea that the autopsy is somehow faked, to me, would be just astonishing.
	Just astonishing. Blood restriction would only lead to passing out, temporary blockage of oxygen.
	I don't know about that.
	Didn't the cop have lots of previous complaints?
	I haven't read about it.
	I've heard about that. I haven't found anything about that.
	If you do have that, please let me know.
	Please send it to me, operationsoffreedomain.com.
	My doctor thinks he died of a heart attack.
	Yeah, could be. Could be.
	Could be the case. All right.
	Three dudes sat on him, no need to kneel on his neck.
	And again, I hear you.
	I mean, you see the guy face down and the guy with his knee on his neck, and I get that, and we shall see.
	We shall see.
	If the cop was on his neck for eight minutes, he would have passed out or broken his neck in the first ten.
	Don't know. You're jumping on this one way too soon.
	Love your fact-based videos.
	Eh, that's not an argument.
	I don't know. What am I saying that's incorrect, right?
	Please explain monosyllabic in terms of one syllable.
	No. All right.
	You guys are too fascinating.
	And, wow, look at that.
	I feel like I'm playing to a stadium here.
	Feelings. Do you think in the future people will be tried in the court of public opinion?
	In the future, look at my last 12 or 13 years.
	And it's going to be interesting to see if there's going to be any coronavirus spikes in the people who are attending these kinds of rallies, right?
	Or these kinds of riots.
	We shall see. Everyone should shut up until the investigation is completed.
	Now, see, that... That's not smart.
	That's not a smart thing to do. Listen, I don't want to sit here and watch videos of people dying, and I don't want to sit here and go against the mob when it's baying for the blood of somebody who may be guilty, may be innocent.
	I don't want to be doing that.
	I had a whole other bunch of plans.
	I've got to get ready for this big debate I have on Sunday, 4 p.m.
	Eastern Standard Time. Be sure to come by.
	It's going to be a debate between me and rationality rules on ethics.
	It's going to be really, really good.
	That's what I wanted to do with my day.
	But I didn't get to do that with my day, or yesterday.
	So it's not like this is some big thrill kick for me.
	I hate this kind of stuff, to be honest with you.
	I wish I didn't have to do it.
	Plus, it's a little bit like Groundhog Day, having covered so many of these things in the past, but I know I do a lot of good and calm a lot of tits out there with this kind of stuff because we kind of need the facts.
	So if there wasn't this big false narrative that was getting cities burned down and people killed, then I wouldn't be jumping in with alternative explanations.
	I wouldn't be jumping in pushing back against the facts.
	If people did wait, For the facts to come in, I wouldn't need to do this.
	So, sorry. I'm afraid that's a bit of a low-brain take.
	You're going to have to up your game if you want to be here.
	Stephen is not credible.
	Well, if you see him, I'll let you know.
	They're upping the charges to murder one, which means he'll get off.
	Is that right? They've upped the charges to murder one?
	That's going to be rough. They upped the charges to murder one after they found out that the guy didn't drive from strangulation or asphyxiation.
	Really? Well, I guess they did the same thing with the McMichaels, right?
	They overcharge and then they lose.
	Where can we do Super Chats?
	Yeah, I'm working on it. I have been demonetized, of course, because I guess internet money is allergic to truth, reason and evidence.
	Oh, is it Murder 3 and Second Manslaughter?
	I think it was Murder 3 and Manslaughter, Second Degree Manslaughter.
	So, yeah, I'm working on it, but please, my friends, if you could help me out, freedomain.com forward slash donate, I'd really, really appreciate that.
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	Guthar says, love your videos.
	Staff, greetings from Brazil.
	Oh, would I love to go back to Brazil.
	I had such a great time in Brazil when I went to give speeches there and I went to go and tell all the politicians how corrupt they were to their face.
	Oh, it was something.
	Floyd died from a cocaine overdose.
	I don't know. I don't know.
	Judge Napolitano suggested murder too before knowing the autopsy result.
	Yeah, well, I haven't suggested any of that stuff, and I think that guy...
	I used to like him quite a bit, but maybe that Simeon brow he's got going on kind of ate his brain.
	But I think he's gone all over the map.
	Do an interview for Hannibal TV? It sounds like a cooking show I don't want to be on, frankly.
	I don't know, maybe. How to explain to my girlfriend the cop wasn't necessarily racist?
	If you have a girlfriend who's not interested in reason and evidence...
	You're going to get ripped apart in family court sooner or later.
	Dump her and find a thinking woman.
	Trust me. I've tried both sides of that aisle.
	Thinking women are infinitely better and safer, frankly.
	All right. What happens when Trump gets out of power in 2024?
	Let's not talk about that right now.
	Let's not end our Friday night before that.
	Overcharge and then lose sounds a recipe for more rioting.
	Sure it is, yeah. They overcharge, they lose, and then you get more rioting.
	Have me on your show.
	That's not the best elevator pitch I've ever heard.
	Where the hell is the National Guard?
	Oh, when I've finished Doom Eternal, I will get around to it, man.
	I've wanted to play, and I can feel my skills rusting as we go.
	But do we think the Democrats are behind these latest racial incidents?
	Well, I mean, the racial incidents are one thing, and this is just another argument for, like, having...
	That when races interact, these kinds of tensions are so exploitable.
	That's the big problem. I'd love to know how well we could all get along without everyone constantly poking it and rubbing acid into these wounds, but I don't know.
	We're not going to hear about that.
	That's not going to happen anytime soon.
	Women by nature don't listen to reason and evidence.
	Come on, man. Come on.
	All right. The mobs at the White House think they're going to take Trump out today?
	Really? Quick recap.
	Sure, I'd be happy to.
	Can I also give you a bunion rub as well?
	That'd be excellent. Bye, you're doing this video to solicit money.
	Oh yeah, because I'm all about just getting money by being so wonderfully popular with everyone and never ever going against the crowd.
	You survived the full onslaught of the left.
	Yes, yes I did.
	All right. Merch shirts for the debate.
	Went to donate, but page could not be found.
	So freedomain.com forward slash donate.
	Somebody says here, I'm living alone or waiting to die because I hate everything.
	Have me on your show. All right.
	Well, if you feel the grim pool of nihilism taking you down, then yes, send me.
	The contact is on the webpage.
	All right. Also, you know, I'm doing a call-in show Friday night, 7 p.m., Sunday mornings at 11 a.m.
	And the way you get in there is subscribe a couple of bucks a month, literally like three bucks a month minimum and up from there at subscribes.com forward slash free domain.
	Ah, all these people coming in late and asking me to start again.
	I don't go to a movie late and ask them to rewind.
	Where's the tape showing what happened to the suspect before he was on the ground?
	Listen, I want to see the whole—I don't want to, but I think it's important to see the whole tape, right?
	We want to see everything that occurred from within the shop to when they talked to him outside in the car, everything.
	I want to see all of that.
	All of that. We will see.
	We will see. Diversity has failed.
	Well, you're assuming that it was designed to succeed, and I don't think...
	You have to ask, so, okay, of course, if non-whites voted for the left, well, you'd have a wall already visible from space, so...
	Yeah, so I've heard the copper and the perp worked at the same club for 15 years as bouncers, so the cop had been a security for the club for 17 years.
	I don't know how long...
	He hadn't been in Minneapolis, George Floyd, for that long, so...
	Now, and of course...
	Oh, sorry. I got distracted by too many interesting people, so I should probably...
	He moved in 2018.
	Yeah, it was pretty recent, right?
	It was pretty recent, so...
	Laugh out loud.
	No. You may become monetized with Trump's new rules on social media.
	We'll see. We'll see.
	Floyd only worked for the club for a year.
	Yeah. What would have happened, in your opinion, if the roles were reversed?
	Well, we know that, right? There was a Somali cop who shot the white woman.
	There were no riots. There was that career criminal who tossed that five-year-old little white boy, a black criminal, tossed a five-year-old little white boy off a balcony.
	I think it was at the Mall of America or some big mall.
	And there were no riots.
	We know. I mean, there was the elderly white couple who were sniper shot by the black guy while they were visiting their son's grave.
	And he was mad about Ahmaud Arbery, if I remember rightly, and no riots, so...
	What happened to your being an anarchist, Steph?
	Oh, so petty.
	So petty. Oh, man, you gotta, you know, go get your T-levels checked.
	If you're, like, sniping, like, some little tween...
	Writing a vicious little diary in a book covered by prancing unicorns.
	Just stop. Just stop this little crappy junk that you people put on the internet.
	Come on, man.
	Grow up. Reach down.
	Nestle the balls of curliness and just remember that they're there for a reason.
	Oh yeah, Stefan is a shill.
	That's another one too.
	Anna Grifter. I get it.
	I get it. All right.
	There are quite a few dumbasses in here, but go figure, they are listening to Steph.
	The sports ball hall of fame is in flames.
	We cannot survive this.
	Oh, very, very sad. I just made a video, says Zach in search of God, about humbling our hearts before God on my channel titled Bible Plant.
	All right. Grow some balls is not an argument.
	No, it's a rebuttal. A rebuttal is different from an argument.
	Everyone hates Steph.
	How many people are in your head if you believe that you are a multitude?
	You know, if you've got that many people in your head, medication may be the answer for you.
	Why don't you have super chats?
	Because I'm demonetized and I can't get that.
	I can't get that.
	Has only the one office been charged?
	Yes, as far as I know it.
	Thank you for giving the Aussie lady a mention.
	Appreciate that. Have you ever read Mahabaret?
	I don't think so. All right.
	What was in the autopsy report?
	No strangulation, no asphyxiation.
	Steph is funded by... Steph is funded by Big Tadpole Money.
	Ah, the Big Tadpole Money.
	Excellent. Big Tadpole Money also funds most of the diets in China, if I remember rightly.
	Oh my gosh, we've ticked over to the next day.
	It's now the 30th. So...
	All right. When will police say enough of this in SNAP? Well, people are just quitting.
	Like, they'll just refuse to police black neighborhoods.
	And, I mean, two of the people, two of the cops there were not even white.
	It doesn't matter, right? I mean, it's just, you understand that the riots are there to establish no-go zones for the police so that a lot of criminals can do what they want without interference.
	That's all. That's all.
	Is there a possibility things spiral out of control before the election?
	I hope not. Yeah, it certainly is.
	Every possibility. Every possibility that things spiral out of control.
	Because, of course, the plan here is pretty simple, pretty obvious.
	I'm sure you guys know what it is. So the plan is to escalate until there are tanks in the streets and then say Trump is a dictator and we have to get him out.
	And then it just continues to escalate and the media then continues to talk about Trump being a dictator, which continues the escalation, and then you get totalitarianism, right?
	So yeah, it is. This is why I'm doing four shows today, right?
	This is why I'm on here at midnight to do all of this, so...
	We love St. Evan.
	Oh, S-T-E-F-A-N. I like that.
	I've heard that, right? Anarchy requires IQ over 85.
	Well, any kind of reasonable society requires at least an average IQ north of 90.
	It doesn't mean you can't have exceptions, but you can have a huge amount of exceptions.
	Was there a guy who threw a woman off the Bay Bridge during road rage?
	Ilhan Omar. Some people did something.
	Oh yeah, that was terrible. We love Stefan, you clown.
	Wait, we love Stefan, you clown?
	Who knows? All right.
	George Floyd was a porn actor.
	I don't think that's confirmed at all.
	I wouldn't know. I don't even know how you know that.
	I don't even know how you know that.
	Steph wrote an actual book on the argument.
	That is correct. That is Everybody Loves You.
	Oh, that's an old John Anderson song.
	Everybody loves you.
	I just love you a little bit more.
	Steph is my favorite cult leader.
	Oh, thank you. I will now let you out of the dungeon populated by a vast majority of fertile women.
	Always a pleasure. Best YouTuber ever.
	My mom is a good lady in the hospital.
	Prayers would be great. Thanks, mate.
	So please send your prayers to MasterfulMac and his mom.
	Hi. Sorry, here. Former corrections officer.
	Stop typing! Sorry.
	Sorry about that. I don't mean to panic, but, you know, I'm going to panic.
	100% completely demonetized forever?
	Yeah. Yeah, no, that's it.
	Elias of Sunhill. Never liked that album too much, but Animation is fantastic.
	Fantastic album, at least some of the great songs in it.
	Let's see here. Have you heard news about Thai people migrating to mines from Twitter?
	Yes. Yes.
	You know, if he did do porn, that would just be weird that there's video evidence of him in the act of creating life and video evidence of him leaving life.
	I don't know. It's very strange.
	Would you either eat a frog or a live bee?
	Can I give a no to the old...
	I guess I'd go with a small frog.
	All right, let's see here.
	Someone wrote, build the wall on one of the barricades on Lake Street.
	like, People who think CNN is serious news and not really a propaganda machine.
	Oh, yeah, for sure. What are your thoughts on this potentially bleeding over to white neighborhoods?
	I thought rioters saying that was the plan, potential civil war.
	Well, of course, if the rioting does bleed over to wealthier neighborhoods, then maybe the wealthy people will stop being such bleeding-heart liberals and recognize the reality of tribalism in this bloody planet.
	I don't mean to sound harsh, but nature can be a brutal teacher, and it's better that nature teaches you than death.
	So if this violence does spill over into wealthier neighborhoods, Then it may be the case that people are going to start getting their heads out of their asses with regards to this kind of stuff, and we can start to have some kind of honest conversation about the stuff I've been talking about for the last five or ten years.
	All right. It just confirmed George did do porn.
	I'm going to trust you on that.
	I'm not going to trust you on that. I don't know.
	I don't know. Shout out to Alex Jones, Gay Frogs.
	Yeah, wouldn't that be wild, eh?
	I don't think that they're going to get what they need to in terms of stopping the censorship before the election.
	So that's pretty bad.
	That's pretty bad. And there is, of course, a situation where you get a lot of race riots.
	You do tend to get a conservative backlash.
	Are you considering moving to a less biased platform such as Spotify?
	Go look for me on Spotify.
	Good luck. All right.
	The Internet is for Cat says, notice me, senpai.
	Senpai? The media caused it.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure. What are your thoughts on Dead Space 3?
	Not played it. Don't know it.
	I would like to play a good...
	See, the very first video game that I loved was called Star Raiders for the old Atari 400.
	I actually had an Atari 800 because my grandmother died and I got an inheritance, but...
	I like me a good space shooter, like Wing Commander 3, but there don't seem to be any good ones that are around that are new.
	If anybody ever knows a good space shooter, that would be great fun.
	So... I'm too sexy for my hair.
	Yeah, it's true, actually. You're not an American.
	Why do you care what happens with the election?
	I'm part of the continent and it matters a lot.
	And here's the thing, too.
	Things that work in America can spread north, right?
	So it does really, really matter.
	Recap on the autopsy.
	The autopsy showed that there was no...
	The death was not caused by strangulation.
	The death was not caused by asphyxiation.
	Was it Keith Ellison? Isn't he the Attorney General of Minnesota who had a picture of himself holding up an Antifa handbook with a big smile?
	I'd like to send you a presentation about the Kwanju uprising in South Korea.
	What can I do to get your attention?
	Operations at freedomain.com.
	And this is in general. Like, if you want me to do a presentation, the best way to do it is to get me well-sourced material, and we'll have a chat and go through it.
	I've done some of those before. It's been really, really helpful.
	All right. The chat room is lighting up.
	Lighting up. Yeah, martial law.
	Thank you for spelling it, M-A-R-T-I-A-L. I appreciate that.
	Do you know why YouTube is giving me warnings before watching you live?
	Oh, is it? Excellent.
	Excellent. It's just getting better and better out here.
	Starmate. It's a combination between Minecraft and Space Shooter.
	I'd never tell my daughter this, but I don't like Minecraft much at all.
	So, I just don't get it.
	All right, so...
	All right. Anything else?
	Anything else? UFO video?
	No, I don't care about UFOs.
	Don't care. It's a bunch of nonsense and it's just there to distract you from more important things.
	There's no way UFOs...
	Yeah, there's life out there in the universe.
	Who cares? Doesn't matter. The only way that we're ever going to get UFOs is...
	Because the only way you're going to get that kind of advanced technology is in a stateless society.
	I don't know.
	because morality and technology and advancement is all goes hand in hand, which is why as we've lost our reason and we've lost our objectivity and we've lost our philosophy, we also lose things like, I don't know, the space shuttle and the Concord and things that work.
	And so the highly moral alien society would have come in here and saved us from ourselves long ago.
	So no, there's no UFOs that are coming.
	There's no space aliens.
	And I don't care if they're testing some stupid plane.
	It just doesn't.
	It's just a big bunch of nonsense, right?
	The MNPD website has instructions for officers to use the move that the officer did on Floyd.
	Oh, is that right? Wow, that's very interesting.
	Roof Koreans needed. Boy, there's a pure reference, but I get it.
	I get it. I get it.
	Would you consider Elite Dangerous a space shooter?
	I don't know. I've been a parent.
	I haven't had a chance to do all of that.
	America sneezes. Australia gets the flu.
	No. China spills something.
	Australia gets the flu. It's a little bit different.
	I love Star Raiders. I still have an old Atari.
	Oh my gosh. Do you know you can get emulators there for those?
	It's pretty funny, right? If he wasn't strangled, then what killed him?
	Well, he had underlying heart conditions, too, and he might have been high.
	He'd had a previous history with cocaine.
	It could have been past cocaine abuse that ruined his heart.
	It could be any number of things.
	We shall see.
	We shall see. What are your thoughts on people looting?
	Well, people like free stuff.
	I mean, it's a more direct form of the welfare state.
	So there's no middleman when it comes to looting.
	Just go take stuff. Do you think this COVID situation will bring upon forced vaccinations?
	Sure. I mean, they'll certainly try for it.
	Yeah. I mean, they love ordering you to do stuff.
	So yeah, for sure. Have you seen the video of the man with the umbrella who started the riot by breaking windows?
	Oh, come on. Sam Cedar covered him.
	Well, Sam Cedar is a douchebag of the First Order, one thing.
	It's not an argument about it being on his show before.
	Sam Cedar. But one guy starts the riot.
	What are you, crazy? What are you crazy?
	I send you 500.
	Can you look at Tony Tempur?
	I want some tempura.
	Anyway, I don't know.
	Send me what you want me to look at, but I don't take money for looking at things.
	I think the real question everyone in the chat wishes to know is, are you wearing pants?
	No, I'm not.
	I'm wearing shorts. Keith Ellison is a hashtag communist subversive.
	Well, certainly a subversive for sure.
	I like smooth rocks.
	I like smooth rocks and I cannot lie.
	All right. As bad as the race war would be, would it be for the better?
	Old school Star Fox.
	Oh, that's interesting. There's going to be an uprising in California tonight.
	Is that Reading? Is that right?
	Have you read any Olavio Ducar book?
	You interviewed him once about cultural Marxism.
	I really don't have as much...
	Time to read as I'd like to.
	So, I mean, all I'm doing is researching and watching people die online.
	It's bloody horrible.
	Bloody horrible. Race relations and demographics in 100 years.
	Let's talk about that another time.
	Let's talk about that another time.
	I'm going to give myself bad...
	Oh, Chris Michaels, is it the guy who made Star Raiders, got a new?
	The guy who made Star Raiders was some engineer in the middle of Atari.
	He never got a penny for it, even though it was one of the most amazing programming jobs that fit in less than 8K. So we will see.
	Nicole Brown Simpson died of COVID. Yeah, yeah.
	Not the best advertisement for interracial marriages, I suppose, right?
	I hear Ferguson never rebuilt the stores that were destroyed.
	The same should go for Zimpol.
	Yeah, for sure. For sure, for sure.
	Look into COVID tracking app mandated in Qatar.
	The penalty for not following this is up to three years in jail or $70,000.
	For sure, you know, they can track everyone who came into contact with everyone that may possibly have had SARS-CoV-2.
	You know what they can't track? Everyone in Jeffrey Epstein's network, boom!
	You know, that was coming for a while, right?
	I guess like the rumors of Mr.
	Floyd. What happened to Darren Wilson?
	Probably still in hiding, as far as I can tell.
	Have you ever considered running for political office?
	Well, of course I have. Of course I have.
	But I like being this side of the ground.
	Atari 2400 or 2800?
	There's no... Well, 2400 was the video game console, right?
	I just came in. What's your take?
	Was the police out of order?
	Don't know if the police were out of order, but Floyd had underlying health conditions that could have caused death, and there was no strangulation, no asphyxiation as the cause of death.
	So... There is an Atari 2600 too, yeah, but that was a video game console, wasn't it?
	There was an Atari 520ST, which I also had, which was updated.
	There was the Atari 800. There was a Lynx system, if I remember rightly.
	Can't remember the other ones, though.
	All right. You guys are too fascinating.
	I'm a long-time supporter, says Jacob.
	I'm flabbergasted by some of your recent takes.
	I don't want to stop supporting you.
	Yeah, call in. Yeah, look, set me straight, man.
	That's fine. I'm certainly no...
	I have no monopoly on truth.
	I'm just, you know, calling it as I see it based upon the reason and evidence, so...
	I think everyone's just trolling me, asking me for a recap now.
	No! You can write.
	Links with a handheld. Jaguar!
	That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking.
	Favourite arcade game?
	I was a big fan of the old game Defender, but it really was like having a burlap sack full of bees lowered slowly onto your head and then being whacked with a baseball bat slowly.
	So I liked that slow heartbeat rising.
	Of asteroids. That was pretty cool.
	Never was into Pac-Man.
	And, ooh, what was that one?
	Zaxxon, where you went through the caverns and all that kind of stuff.
	How do I call in?
	I'm a multi-million air gamer.
	I like these things. This is somehow related.
	Sega Genesis was the best.
	I didn't know that. I do remember having friends who had the Commodore 64 that were big battles about, which was better.
	Oh, there was an old game called M-U-L-E, Mule.
	It was a resource mining game for the Atari 800.
	Really fun. Really fun.
	I remember playing that with some friends, one of whom later died.
	Very, very sad. Dig Dug.
	I never got that much into Dig Dug myself.
	Don't download Tracer apps.
	Yeah, I think that's fairly obvious, right?
	Ah, alright.
	My old Atari 2600 is still at my mom's house, 39 years old.
	Wow. Thoughts on PewDiePie's philosophy videos?
	I like them. I've only watched one or two, but I like them.
	He's a thoughtful guy, and I appreciate the fact that he's trying to bring philosophy to the masses.
	It'd be great to chat with him, but I'm sure the New York Times...
	Sorry, I'm sure the Wall Street Journal has scared him off talking controversial people like me.
	Alright. Kick-ass hairline?
	That's right. It's not a 4-head or a 6-head or an 8-head.
	It's a 16-head, I believe.
	Pretty much goes up like binary.
	Atari games that loaded from a cassette?
	Yeah, so the very first game that I got before I even got a floppy drive?
	I had a game, and it was on a C30 cassette.
	It was like a Galaga-style game, and it took one minute to load per K. So it was 8K, eight minutes to load an 8K game, and you had to find just the right part on the counter to be able to load the video game.
	That was before I had a cartridge, before I had a floppy drive.
	Or anything like that.
	And I only ended up switching out of the Atari world because for the price of just getting a hard drive, I could get an entire used 286 that came with a 40 meg hard drive.
	So... I heard more controversial, you're more rational, actually.
	Well, of course. But given that we have an anti-rational culture, rationality is alarming and scary to people.
	I thought the officer was charged with manslaughter.
	Now, I believe he's been charged with either a manslaughter slash...
	Murder in the Third Degree.
	Vic-20. Now that was some big farts, man.
	That was some big farts.
	How are you controversial?
	Because I talk about things that undermine the communist takeover of the West, and they no like it.
	They no like it.
	Remember ping pong? It wasn't ping pong.
	It was just pong. It was just pong, baby.
	The Oregon Trail game. I don't remember that one.
	Custer's Last Battle was a really stupid game.
	Wait, that's not the one where there was that rape scene, was it?
	In the old one?
	Terrible. M.A. mean after your name?
	Master of Arts? Master of Arts.
	How much would you endorse Cernovich's Guerrilla Mindset?
	I like the book. I thought it was a good book.
	It's a good introduction. You can also check out my books.
	Most of them are free. You can also order them.
	freedomain.com forward slash books.
	Should prostitution be legal?
	Yes. Sadly.
	My first computer was a 386.
	A place called Mighty Max in Toronto I bought for doing my graduate degree.
	I bought $1,200 for a 386 SX computer with two megs of RAM. No, one meg of RAM. No, two megs of RAM. And it was really something.
	How is Lauren Southern doing? She's very well.
	She's enjoying her baby, which is lovely to hear.
	How come I can't find any info on George Flynn's criminal record?
	Well, you can. Talked about race and IQ. That's pretty controversial.
	Well, it's only controversial among hysterical people who want to control people.
	Did you play Leisure Suit Larry?
	I never did, in fact. Your last call-in show was great, says Jacob.
	I never realized how being a nice guy was just as problematic as being a D-bag, working on being more assertive, and standing up to my family.
	Good for you, man. Good for you.
	Oh, yeah, yeah. So I wanted to mention this to you, my special friends, my friendies.
	Freedomain.locals.com.
	Freedomain.locals.com.
	I got a new place.
	I got a new hangout, man.
	I got a new pad.
	Freedomain.locals.com.
	You can donate to me there.
	And there is, in fact, a...
	A call-in show up there, which is all our cathedrals are built on graveyards.
	You know what? I'm going to give you.
	I'm going to give you that link right here, right now, my friends.
	I don't even know how this is going to work with the multi-streaming thing, but we're going to try it anyway because we are mad, mad, bad and dangerous to know.
	All right, what have we got here? No, that's not what I'm looking for.
	No, that's not what I'm looking for. It's possible I may have too many windows open.
	Just keep passing the open windows.
	Not a great song, but not a bad album.
	All right. Oh, yeah, here we go.
	Here we go. Type a message.
	Where does this go? Check this out.
	It's a great call-in show.
	And you can get that, freedomain.locals.com.
	You can donate to me there if you want.
	But anyway, all right.
	Let's see here. Blockade was my fave.
	Oh, is that the boop boop? Like you send the ball up and get the blocks?
	That was pretty cool. Oh, Custis Revenge was the one with the bad rape scene.
	I never played it, but I heard about it.
	Oh, Pitfall?
	Eh, Pitfall was too fussy for me.
	Asteroids was the only game I flipped the score over back to zero.
	Wow. I remember losing 25 cents to a guy.
	Space Invaders was fun too, but he knew the sequence for the UFOs that went along the top.
	He knew the sequence that gave you the high score.
	Who's your favorite artist?
	Queen is my favorite band, if that's what you're looking for.
	But you know, I've also Mark Knopfler from Dire Straits, one amazing lyricist.
	I mean, obviously a great guitarist and so on.
	Not a bad singer, but a great lyricist.
	I've just been listening to some of his stuff lately, and it's really fantastic, right?
	Do you remember Trade Wars 2002?
	I didn't read that. River Raid was pretty good.
	Yeah. Berserk!
	Intruder alert. I tell you this.
	Okay, here's stupid memories from long ago.
	So when I was on the cross-country running team in Donald's Collegiate, back behind Donald's Collegiate, And there's a really, really steep hill that goes down to the valley, which is sort of this wild area nobody builds there.
	And they would have us go up and down that as part of cross-country training.
	And I remember programming, in my mind, the game Berserk, because I programmed games when I had my Atari.
	That's how I learned how to program back in the day.
	And I remember figuring out exactly the code that I would use so that the robots would shoot and chase in the right way.
	So there's my little memory.
	So that's my relationship to the old game, Berserk, which was fun.
	All right. Do you miss Radio Shack?
	Well, it's still around. It's just called something else now.
	I can't remember what it is, right?
	So... Unreal Tournament was killer.
	It was a great, great game.
	Unreal Tournament. I've actually just downloaded Unreal Tournament 3, which I used to play, and I'm going to try and lure some people on the FreeDemand community into it, right?
	387 gave the 386 a massive mass speed boost.
	Yeah, but it didn't do much for games, right?
	Amiga 500 had the world's first overclock.
	Is that right? Have you read John Glubb?
	No. I love the 80s.
	Yeah, some things I do miss about the 80s.
	Yes, I have talked about the autopsy.
	I'm sorry about that. Wow, look at that.
	Still thousands and thousands of people.
	Do you believe eugenics is a solution to low IQ aggregates?
	Um... No, eugenics is a government program, so it's wrong.
	It's wrong by all that.
	What kind of frames are those?
	60 frames a second. Well, these are frames.
	I don't even remember where I got them, but the little nose thing fell off, and so there we go, right?
	There we go. All right.
	Are you tired of wearing these stupid masks?
	Well, I mostly stay home. Oh, gosh.
	I remember playing a flight simulator on the Atari 800 that literally was like one frame every second or two.
	To land, you really had to look ahead and not go too far.
	And then what happened was I got it on the 520ST. It was actually pretty smooth.
	Ballblazer 2 was a fun game.
	It was the first two-player game.
	I showed that to my daughter because she likes Rocket League.
	So do I, actually. But Ballblazer was the original super blocky soccer game on the old Atari 800.
	It was really, really good. Kurt Doolittle is the proprietarian guy, right?
	They're kind of snarky, but yeah, okay.
	All right. Give him a ping.
	Kurt Doolittle, give him a ping and tell him he's welcome and we'll set it up.
	Get me some times. If you could, my friends.
	I don't mean to deputize you, but it is the best way to get things done, because it's just me, man.
	I haven't had a producer for like 18 months or whatever, so it's just me.
	I'm all alone.
	Well, with you lovely people as well.
	Steely Dan, I do like.
	Rush, a couple of songs, but, you know, that's one helium voice.
	It gets me. Pink Floyd is killer.
	Pink Floyd, probably my second favorite band.
	Amazing. Listen to the, you can get this on YouTube, the Pulse version of Coming Back to Life.
	I can literally listen to the first 90 seconds or two minutes of that guitar intro over and over and over again.
	Don't stop me now, I'm having such a good time.
	Yeah, good. Yeah, Queen, the guitarist just ripped his butt gardening.
	He like tore his gluteal muscles horribly and then he had a heart attack.
	So it's pretty rough.
	Was it murder from what you see in the video?
	It's the closest that I think I can get to it is manslaughter.
	And that's into a variety of things.
	So I don't know.
	I think it could get to manslaughter.
	It depends. It depends whether or not—until we get the toxicology report and the final autopsy result, there's really no way to know for sure.
	Lyrics of Sting through his time with the police and best with his solo career.
	Yeah, Sting is also a great performer, but my God, an insufferable human being.
	An absolutely insufferable human being.
	Is the Hong Kong documentary not on YouTube anymore?
	Well, last time I checked it was, so you should check it out.
	All right. Necromancer was also a great game, but really hysterical and wildly, wildly challenging.
	It was a really, really great game.
	Gosh, I'd forgotten about that.
	Oh, man. Let's binge watch AD stuff together.
	Come play Ultima online with me.
	Free fan chart. Gosh, Free Domain 1, I think is my tag, so you can check that out.
	I haven't been on there for a while.
	Ah, let's see here.
	Should we just do an old video game day?
	Would that be kind of fun? Oh, that's so neat.
	So geeky, but it could be enormously enjoyable.
	F-18 interceptor.
	Hardest balls at six frames per second.
	Boy, I don't think I even got six frames a second with that old thing.
	Is the pandemic documentary by Minkovitz complete BS? I've seen some rebuttals of it that seem pretty strong.
	I haven't watched the documentary itself, so...
	Don't Stop Me Now is one of the best sung songs in history.
	One of the best sung songs in history.
	It's just amazingly sung.
	And he actually sounds quite a bit like Billy Joel at the end, you know.
	Are you against determinism?
	Yes, enormously.
	Would you vote for the PPC? I was sort of interested in the last vote in Canada because it was free speech is kind of the major issue.
	So, and unfortunately, the PPC just got hammered by the media, which was just...
	Do I like Kiss or Motley Crue?
	Never really got into those too much.
	Is Doom done? No, I'm playing it with you guys.
	So when I get back to it, I would do that, right?
	Geddy Lee actually went to my high school, obviously before me, but yeah.
	It fills me with the urge to defecate the trial on Pink Floyd's The War.
	So when I was in high school, an English teacher asked us for an analysis of song lyrics, and of course I did an analysis of Pink Floyd's The Trial, which is a completely terrifying song.
	And I remember the teacher asked me to bring it in on tape because she was so fascinated by it.
	Do I like any Oasis songs?
	I do actually like some Oasis songs.
	Neil Gallagher? That's a singer, right?
	Liam Gallagher?
	They're brothers, right? So the funny thing about Oasis is that...
	The singer was not a singer until he got hit in the head with a hammer.
	I actually believe that his musical genius came out of a head blow, shockingly enough, because he didn't have any interest in music, wasn't any good at it, got hit in the head and the hammer, and then became such a good singer that even with complex songs, he would do them in one take in the studio.
	Just listen to them once or twice, go in and sing it perfectly, and pretty wild stuff.
	So, I've never sat down and listened to OK Computer by Radiohead like Dark Side of the Moon, but are you saying that's a good thing to do?
	It's a good thing to do? Do I like an Oasis song?
	Don't Look Back in Anger, Don't Look Back in Anger, which reminds me of a great play from the 50s.
	I really like that song.
	Wonderwall's okay, but it got a bit overplayed.
	Fletcher Memorial Home by Pink Floyd is a fantastic song.
	The Gunner's Dream.
	Oh, my God.
	That is an orgasmic song.
	The Gunner's Dream by Pink Floyd.
	I mean, there's so many great. The one with the pics in a cave listening to animals is not particular.
	I played that to my daughter. She's like, what now?
	What now? So all you young people start hitting each other in the head with a hammer, so.
	Did George Floyd do five years in prison for armed robbery?
	Home invasion, armed robbery, I believe so, yes.
	Champagne Suma Nova, yeah, it's a pretty good song.
	Pretty good song. Pretty good song.
	Oh, Dark Side of the Moon.
	There is no Dark Side of the Moon, really.
	Matter of fact, it's all dark.
	Oh, amazing. Amazing.
	And also, Freddie Mercury did with an opera singer.
	He did an album called Barcelona, and I think they just redid it with an actual orchestra rather than the sort of electric orchestra that he had.
	So that's also great.
	The song, oh man, we could do music all night.
	I tell you, I'm such a music fan.
	But the boy had a way with words.
	He rhymed. He moved with grace.
	He entertained. Oh, where does it go?
	And then he sang to her, I love you for your silence.
	That's a great song. Oh man, the title would come to it.
	The title would come to me.
	The Golden Boy. The Golden Boy.
	Amazing. Amazing.
	Amazing song. Yeah, Phil Gollum is pretty good too.
	Yes is a fantastic band.
	A fantastic band. That's it.
	Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pect.
	It's fantastic. Pretty wild.
	Pretty wild. I love the band Yes, and I've seen them twice at concert.
	And John Anderson can actually sing higher live than he does in the album, which is really, really something.
	And his high voice doesn't bother me in the way that Geddy Lee's does.
	But... When I went to go and see Yes, I Get Up, I Get Down, that song.
	There's a great bit in the middle.
	I get up, I get down.
	And it's just an acapella bit with a little bit of organ, and the two singers in the band are singing together, and it's beautiful.
	And I went with a couple of friends, and the music, because, you know, Yes is a bit of an acquired taste, like that symphonic rock is a bit of an acquired taste, because it kind of jumps all over the place, and it's atonal in parts and so on.
	And... You know, I mean, stuff like 90210 is much more 90215, whatever that album is.
	Move yourself, you story make, you owner of a Lonely Heart album.
	So I went to see the concert and this acapella bit comes on that I've just been dying to hear live.
	And my friends were just grumbling, oh, I don't like this music.
	Oh, I think we're going to leave. And I was just like, shut up!
	You're ruining this beautiful moment that I waited my whole life to hear these people do this acapella bit of this amazing song.
	Alright. And John Anderson, his solo stuff is pretty good, too.
	His solo stuff is pretty good.
	Listen to Song of Seven. It's a long song where his daughter sings with him, actually, and it's really great.
	Do you play any instruments? I did 10 years of violin when I was a kid.
	I play a little guitar, but not very well, and I was picking up piano again after many years last year, but I just was not able to keep it up, or chose not to keep it up.
	ACDC, I've seen them live as well.
	They are a killer band, or were a killer band, I guess.
	How old am I? I'm 53, I'd be 54 this year.
	What is your IQ? Don't know.
	Yeah, ACDC, I mean, that will put hair on a fucking egg, that band.
	They just, oh man, they just kill them.
	They just kill it. And they were like a no-compromise band as well, although the...
	The first singer died and then the second singer said basically that they sold their soul to the devil to get an album finished that they couldn't finish.
	But for Hell's Bells, which is another killer song, they actually got a monstrous giant bell from some abandoned monastery and carted it around their live tours just to...
	Yeah, Sarastock. Yeah, I saw ACDC and the Stones and all that at Sarastock, which was pretty wild.
	Is heavy metal satanic? I don't think so.
	I used to dance in my underwear to Gowan's You're a Strange Animal on my apartment balcony.
	I miss the 80s. I actually peed next to Gowan when I was at McGill.
	I was rehearsing for a play, and I like Gowan.
	Although, boy, talk about a one-hit wonder band, eh?
	But, yeah, and I was going to the washroom and looked over and...
	There was a lot of hair.
	And Gowan. So I said, yeah, great.
	I look younger than 53?
	Oh, thanks. Do I listen to Bach?
	Yes. Yes.
	I don't like the grunge stuff.
	Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden.
	Not really. Never got into Alice Cooper.
	Too anti-woman myself.
	Your opinion on Putin?
	As a Russian, that's a complicated question.
	I'll do that another time if you don't mind.
	Emerson Lakin Palmer. Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends.
	Lucky Man is good.
	Oh, was it them who did The Rain is on the Roof, Hurry High is Butterfly.
	That was good.
	I look about 45.
	Well, that's very kind of you, I suppose.
	Thank you. David Bowie.
	Yeah, I go through big Bowie fans.
	I also saw him live in Toronto.
	He was great. An amazing guitarist.
	This black guy just rocked the place from top to bottom.
	And Bowie, but he was not good live, man.
	He's got a studio voice and all of that, so...
	Can you play Eileen on your violin?
	I gave up a violin long before Dexy's Midnight Runners hit their one-hit wonder plateau.
	Queen is king. Led Zeppelin gave me satanic vibes, to be fair.
	I will tell you that, too.
	I mean, my God. Led Zeppelin, as a dark band, man.
	I mean, they make Aerosmith look like Mary Poppins.
	Led Zeppelin is a very, very dark band with very dark music, and there's some nasty, nasty stuff that happened in that.
	I mean, I was listening to Dirty Laundry by Don Henley, his solo stuff, I guess, and he wrote that song because, if I remember rightly, some...
	Underage hooker was found dead in his place at a party, and he got written about really badly, and then he wrote bad things about the media, and that's a bit sad, right?
	A bit sad. Play any albums backwards?
	Yes! Oh, man, you guys are going to keep me up all night talking music.
	So, oh, boy.
	There was an old album by Electric Like Orchestra.
	Somebody help me out here.
	It's got a Persian guy or an Arabic guy on the cover, and there's a song in it where the...
	And if you play it backwards, as you used to be able to do with albums, it said, the music is reversible, but time is not.
	Turn back! Turn back!
	It was really...
	It was pretty cool. So...
	You're a Montrealer?
	I lived in Montreal for four years, in fact.
	I did live... My dad pumped Steve Perry's gas.
	Oh, maybe that's where they got the name for their best album.
	I look younger than Steph and I am 59.
	And competitive.
	You and Jordan Peterson went to McGill at the same time.
	Did you ever meet? Did we?
	I didn't. I don't remember him there.
	No. It is required by law to purchase a copy of OK Not OK for Steph Ann.
	Dream Theater. Life in a northern town.
	Criminal Mind is a classic.
	Two hit one. Yeah, he did have two.
	All right. Did you play Mega Man?
	I didn't. King Crimson?
	Court of the Crimson King?
	Not bad. Not bad.
	I prefer... Yes.
	Do you play chess? I do play chess.
	Are you a fan of Carl Jung and his ideas?
	They had a huge...
	Carl Jung had a huge influence on me.
	Huge influence on me.
	Bob Dylan! Yeah, great lyricist.
	Spooky lyricist. Some of his lines really, really stuck with me.
	You're invisible now.
	You have no secrets to reveal.
	I mean, you're invisible now.
	You have no secrets to conceal.
	Sorry, that's a better line. I... My wife can't stand it.
	But I like Bob Dylan, but very, very dark stuff.
	Like the Traveling Wilburys, and he did a song together for the Traveling Wilburys band where he was in with Roy Orbison and George Harrison, and it was just so dark and so trashy and garbage and all that.
	Yeah. That was the Moody Blues.
	60's Psychedelic Rock.
	Some of that could be pretty good. I like the Allman Brothers as well.
	Styx. Oh, man.
	Okay. So you guys want to hear a story.
	So it's not a great story.
	Story anyway. Paradise Theatre was a Styx album.
	And that guy, the Styx singer, man, he's killer.
	He's got an album of Broadway songs that is just knock your socks off, right?
	And... That album, Paradise, I literally played that into the ground.
	There are a couple of albums I played into the ground as a kid.
	The Wall was one, Dark Side of the Moon was another, and that Paradise Theater album by Styx, incredible.
	Yeah, that was really something.
	Tragically Hip? Okay, Tragically Hip drive me nuts.
	They drive me nuts as a band because they have such...
	Incredible songs, like truly deep, powerful, meaning songs.
	And then they've got like crap like music at work.
	So with Tragically Hip, you kind of got to make your own tape of the songs because it's like how that abortion of a song called Mother was jammed into some of the musical genius of synchronicity.
	Is that my mother on the phone?
	I played that for my daughter and she thought it was surgery with a drumbeat.
	And so...
	Yeah, some of the Tragically Hip stuff is amazing.
	Long Time Running is a fantastic song.
	Amazing song. And really, really well sung.
	Tough song to sing, man, to get it really right.
	Boots of Hearts is a fantastic song as well.
	And Colonel Tom, what's wrong?
	What's going on? That's a great song too.
	But then there's just stuff that's really, really bad.
	Really, really bad. The Truth About Led Zeppelin.
	Ooh, I'd be afraid to like that.
	Robert Plant. So Robert Plant, oh gosh, together with the Honey Drippers, right?
	He had a sort of star band together with Paul Schaefer from the Letterman Show.
	And they did a cover of a song, Good Rocking at Midnight, that is just killer.
	It's so good.
	It is so good.
	Man, you ever want to get some energy in your day, some pep in your step, you just throw on Robert Plant or the Honey Drippers.
	See if life's kind of boring.
	But Good Rocking at Midnight?
	Yeah. Jeff Healy was a blind blues guitar player and Canadian, one of the greats.
	Yes, he was. And he shows up in an old movie with Patrick Swayze called Roadhouse.
	Billy Idol, great. Pet Shop Boys.
	Oh, man. So I had a...
	Oh, Pet Shop Boys.
	Yeah, Pet Shop Boys is good, although when I had gay roommates...
	Got a little tired of Pet Shop Boys.
	Just like, guys, mix it up a little.
	Mix it up a little. I'm a little tired of the Pet Shop Boys.
	Oh, it's okay. We can throw on some Bronski beat.
	No, no, no. Please. Someone whose balls have dropped and whose voice is broken.
	So... Oh, gosh.
	Where was I now? Opinions on Christopher Hitchens?
	The warmongering son of a bitch, frankly.
	Shoot. What was I going to talk about, too?
	Come on, let me scroll.
	Sammy Hagar is a great singer, by the way, as well.
	George Michael, oof, what a singer.
	What a singer.
	So it's funny because there's my favorite song of George Michael.
	Now, every day I see you with some other face, crack a smile and talk a while and try to take your place.
	My memory served me far too well.
	I love that song.
	The beginning is just so light and bouncy and it's just got this mournful, sorrowful bounciness to it.
	It turns out he actually wrote that with the Rolling Stones.
	It's actually kind of interesting. Gordon Lightfoot, yeah, good singer, melancholy singer, completely obsessive about it.
	I think he spent two years working on a live album.
	It's just mad.
	Stefan's sitting here bringing philosophy to the masses, but all he really wants to do is talk about music.
	Ain't that the truth? Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, Pet Shop Boys.
	So the Pet Shop Boys did a cover of an old Willie Nelson song that was also covered by Chris DeBerg, a highly underrated singer-songwriter and a great performer.
	But maybe I didn't hold you all those lonely, lonely times.
	The Pet Shop Boys did a version of that that was really disco'd up.
	And I remember curled in a fetal position in my early 20s because I was regretting a breakup.
	Ever have this where you break up with someone and you just kind of wander off and you don't really think about it too much and then something happens and you're just like, boom, do I ever horribly miss that person?
	And I got a little obsessed.
	I've got to tell you, I got a little obsessed.
	It was not particularly a finest couple of months of my life.
	And I remember sitting there in a fetal position listening to the Pet Shop Boys cover of Always On My Mind and, oh, I miss you!
	I don't know. The emotional hysterics of youth.
	Just something else. Bee Gees?
	Ah, never really been a fan.
	Never been too...
	Lorena McKinnett? Yes.
	Yeah, she's really, really great.
	Really, really great. And Pet Shop Boys is...
	Yeah, West End Girls, okay.
	John Denver? Yeah, not bad.
	Not bad. I never got him too much.
	When I was getting my chemotherapy...
	Sorry, not my chemotherapy.
	When I was getting my radiation therapy for cancer, they were playing John Denver, so I can't listen to it anymore.
	Sorry. Just every single time.
	I don't even know why. I don't even know why.
	Simple Minds. Hey, hey.
	Now, Simple Minds is actually interesting.
	I like Waterfront a lot better than that big hit.
	But, no, I don't really know Metallica too well myself.
	Sammy Hagar is my cousin, actually.
	Distant cousin. Everyone remembers the sax riff in Baker Street.
	Yeah, yeah, that's true.
	That's true. Stevie Ray Vaughan.
	Ugh! Killer.
	Oh, but you guys got to get into Colin James too, man.
	Colin James is just the bomb.
	He is. Listen to Satellite.
	Listen to Sudden Stop.
	Keep on Loving Me is just a killer song.
	And Five Long Years, a very sweet, melancholy song about a breakup.
	And Colin James, I've seen him a couple of times live.
	He is really, really great.
	And it's too bad. I mean, with the little big band, he had some really good...
	That sort of big bandy stuff.
	But yeah, it's a real shame.
	And I haven't heard from him in forever.
	But it's funny.
	I actually went to see Colin James.
	Pretty small venue. And...
	He was doing a song, I think he wrote with Elvis Costello, called You and Whose Army, and it's really high, a really high song.
	And he's kind of, you can see him kind of struggling with the notes.
	And I remember the drummer saying, oh yeah, everybody writes these songs, they always forget about live.
	You've got to remember that you've got to do this live, night after night, these high songs.
	And I just remember listening about that.
	Chilliwack, great, great band, actually.
	I got into them through SCTV and...
	My Girl is actually a very, very sweet song.
	Bruce Springsteen likes some Bruce Springsteen stuff enormously, although everybody got bludgeoned over the head that summer that Born in the USA came out because it was just nonstop Bruce Springsteen all the time.
	But Tonight in Jungle Land is a great song that he did.
	I love, love, love the song Hungry Heart.
	Great lyrics.
	Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack.
	I went out for a ride and I never went back.
	Like a river that don't know where it's flowing.
	I took a wrong turn and I just kept going.
	And it was just like that vivid sense of just getting up and getting out of your life.
	Just amazing. I think the guy, Bruce Springsteen, has been terminally depressed for most of his life.
	And I think it's been a really, really rough life for him.
	But yeah, some great, great stuff.
	Fleetwood Mac? Eh, so-so.
	Got a little bit overpaid.
	Thoughts on the Beatles? Ah, great.
	Great, great band. Great, great band.
	I mean, what can I say? I mean, amazing.
	And I like bands that have a lot of variety, which is why I like Queen so much.
	Leonard Cohen. Oh, man.
	You want a great song? The Neville Brothers cover of Leonard Cohen's Bird on a Wire is some of the most amazing vocal acrobatics that you will ever hear in your life.
	And I was actually...
	So I first got into the blues because I went down just by chance.
	I used to get into clubs because I always had a high forehead, right?
	I used to get into clubs... I used to go to a disco called Nuts and Bolts.
	Yeah, very subtle, right? In Toronto, I would start...
	At about 15, maybe 16, 17 years old, I would go and get in.
	And because I was like a tasty little crumpet, a hot piece of number, they would let me in to help attract the ladies.
	And it's back when I got scouted for modeling.
	And I had a story for another time.
	But anyway, so I used to go into these clubs.
	And then I went to a nightclub and...
	There was a blues singer called Otis Clay who was playing there.
	Man! That guy can sing.
	Holy crap. He's on a band.
	There's a blues cover of Rolling Stones songs that is just fantastic.
	And there's another band called Fathead that does a cover of You Can't Always Get What You Want with accordions.
	Actually, surprisingly fantastic.
	And I actually went to see them live with like nine other people in the audience.
	So, yeah, Leonard Cohen is great.
	That Sade. So Sade was a little bit overplayed when I was younger.
	Great singer.
	And the moon and I were talking.
	I can't remember the name of the song, but she's a very sexy song.
	It's great make-out music, what can I tell you?
	Black Sabbath? Ah, I never got too much onto that.
	Morrissey? Okay. How Soon Is Now?
	Oh, that song.
	Boom! If that doesn't get you in the gut, you don't have a gut.
	That is...
	Yeah, Morrissey, I never got too much into the band as a whole, but Morrissey, How Soon Is Now?
	There's a club that you know, and you go all along, and you leave on your own, and you go home, and you cry, and you want to die.
	Ah, it's just amazing.
	Just amazing. Listen, you guys can talk to me about music all night.
	All night, I'm afraid.
	I can just music it up like you wouldn't believe.
	So, I'm afraid.
	So, Depeche Mode. So, I saw Depeche Mode twice live.
	Just Can't Get Enough is a great song.
	We used to disco dance to it all the time.
	But I haven't listened to them in forever, frankly.
	I am the sun and the air.
	Yes. Yes.
	Beautiful. And it's a pretty literary song.
	You get that from an old Hardy novel, I think, right?
	Mark Knopfler, Post Dire Straits.
	So he wrote an album called Sailing to Philadelphia that I've never actually listened to, which I really should have.
	Frank Zappa, a bit too cynical for me.
	And, oh gosh, she's a valley girl, got overplayed to death.
	But he did it. You know, Frank Zappa did a really, really cool version of a Sting song that Sting cut with the police called Murder by Numbers.
	And Frank Zappa and Sting doing Murder by Numbers was actually pretty, pretty, pretty good.
	Carvalho. All right.
	Thank you. I appreciate that. Jethro Tull.
	Oh, man, that's some cynical stuff, too.
	I mean, that guy basically passed out playing flute.
	Not running down his nose.
	Anyway, so, yeah, that's some pretty, pretty dark stuff.
	Otis Redding. Love Otis Redding.
	Steely Dan. Likes Steely Dan quite a lot.
	Van Halen. You know, because I like to sing myself, I care more about the singers than the guitarists.
	Like, I get the people who are into guitar.
	They will really, really appreciate the guitar.
	I think the guitar is kind of cool, but, you know, if I'd ever got to see Freddie Mercury live, I would have cared much more.
	Like, he used to do these things live, you can find them on YouTube, where he would acapella to himself in the round, doing the middle part of a Brian May composition called The Prophet Song, the most incredible stuff, that he would actually just sing, and it would echo, Harmonize with himself.
	Just the most amazing stuff.
	Now, that to me is incredible.
	I could listen to that stuff all day.
	Whereas Brian May taking you on this intergalactic noodle fest of guitar-ing is like, oh, please, just put a sock in it and turn it over.
	It's done. Make it end.
	Bob Seger, I really, really like Bob Seger.
	Great, great singer and very gravelly and passionate and a great lyricist as well.
	Psychedelic Furs. I was going to go and see them, but no.
	Bad Out of Hell by Meat Loaf.
	So that song, it's actually funny.
	I got into that song again recently.
	I can't even remember why.
	I think it just came up on a playlist.
	Bad Out of Hell, the song Bad Out of Hell is just incredible.
	It's an amazing, amazing song.
	The rest of the album is pretty good.
	Paradise by the Dashboard Light.
	Okay, so there's a bit in the middle that most teenage boys remember.
	And actually, they got a real broadcaster to do the play-by-play in the middle of Paradise by the Dashboard Light.
	And he's like, this isn't going to be dirty, is it?
	Oh, no, of course not. But all revved up with no place to go, particularly the last part, which is really fast, is also just fantastic.
	Yeah, Bad Out of Hell is fantastic.
	And Meatloaf, you know, it's a sort of cautionary tale of how miserable things can get when you get sued for like $100 million after that.
	You know, hey, look, we've got a great album.
	Everybody's sued him. It's like, ugh, Sam Cooke.
	Sam Cooke, one of my top five favorite singers of all time.
	And... Just, I mean, man, you put on A Change Is Gonna Come and you crank that, man, it takes you places.
	It takes you places like, yeah, that's right.
	I am the sun and the air of a shyness that is criminally vulgar.
	Ah, let's see here.
	Indigo Girl's Best Lesbian Band?
	Eh, never got into it too much.
	Mott the Hoople? They were actually...
	Queen was their support.
	It was the opening act. They opened for Mott the Hoople when Mott the Hoople was big in the past.
	Do you like Triumph? Yeah.
	Best version of I Put a Spell on You.
	Pete Townsend did that. Now, Pete Townsend as a solo artist is actually pretty good.
	Empty Glass, I think, was the album.
	My Love Open the Door is a fantastic song.
	But if you really want to get your knickers in a twist...
	Go and look for this.
	It's also available on YouTube.
	Face the Face by Pete Townsend.
	Man, you put that on and you crank it and you are in a heartbeat of the universe.
	I'm telling you, that song, if that doesn't give you energy, you need to go and stick a fork in an electrical socket.
	Just kidding! Don't ever do that.
	I never knew you knew so much about music.
	Yeah, kind of came in that way, didn't it?
	If you guys want to do music, man, I'll do music literally all night long.
	Now, Guns N' Roses, you know, again, because I'm a singing aficionado, I can't get into that guy's voice.
	I'm real sorry. I'm real sorry.
	November Rain is a beautiful song, and Sweet Child of Mine, beautiful song, just can't get into it.
	I generally will say, oh, that's a good Guns N' Roses song.
	I wonder if somebody who can sing has done a cover of it, and go and check that out.
	Ella Fitzgerald, absolutely glorious.
	If you want to hear a really, really funny improv, listen to Ella Fitzgerald when she's doing Mack the Knife and forgets the lyrics.
	It's really, really funny, and that was great.
	Let's see here. Elton John.
	I like Elton John. His early stuff more, he got kind of treacly to me towards the end and the moment he hooked up with Disney, it was all over.
	But Yellow Peak Road is a gorgeous song.
	And boy, you want to hear some real soul?
	Man, listen to Alita Adams doing a cover of Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me.
	Oh, man.
	That woman can let rip something else.
	Was it Alita Adams? I think it was Alita Adams who did a whole bunch of...
	Well, she did a whole album together with Tears for Fears.
	I think it was Alita Adams. And it was just incredible.
	Amazing, amazing stuff. Beach Boys saw them live and I enjoyed that.
	And somebody says, I sent you $1,000 and won $10 million on the lottery.
	Can I talk to you? Sure, you can talk to me.
	I saw the Beach Boys live and that was quite a lot of fun.
	Beach Boys is kind of limited though because you...
	You've heard one song and they're kind of similar, right?
	The Cure. Yeah, I like The Cure.
	I like The Cure. Love Cats is a great song.
	I actually went to see The Cure because I loved Love Cats and they refused to play it because it was too commercial.
	And it was like, oh, come on.
	Lou Rawls. Oh, God, Lou Rawls has got some dark stuff, man.
	A Walk on the Wild Side is really, really similar.
	It's very catchy, but it's dark as hell, right?
	What do you think of Johnny Cash?
	I've got to tell you. I don't get it.
	I watch the movie. I don't get the Johnny Cash thing.
	I mean, I get the songs are kind of catchy, but I don't really get it.
	Rainy Night in Georgia is a lovely, lovely, lovely song.
	XTC, Senses Working Overtime, great, a great band.
	U2 has got some great stuff, but I just, I can't get past Bono's ego.
	Like, I just can't.
	Sitting on the dock of the bay.
	Yeah, didn't he record that right before his dad shot him, if I remember rightly?
	Very, very sad. Joan Jett.
	Oh, Joan Jett's killer, too.
	She did the soundtrack for the opening song for Freaks and Geeks, which was really, really good.
	Is Michael Jackson good? Yes, Michael Jackson is good.
	One of my first entrepreneurial ventures was staying up all night, literally all night, to line up to buy Michael Jackson tickets and selling them.
	I was a scalper. What can I tell you?
	What can I tell you? Blondie, yeah, Blondie's great.
	Although she did a cover, she did a song, oh boy, with Iggy Pop.
	That was really terrible. Nick Cave of the Bad Seeds, yeah, pretty good, pretty good.
	I never got into them hugely, but like them.
	Tears for Fears, fantastic band.
	Oh, fantastic band.
	Really, really exercised themselves around quite a bit.
	Listen to the Bad Man song by...
	By Tears for Fears. It's a really, really interesting, fascinating song.
	Closet Spice Girls fan?
	Gotta tell you, never quite got into it.
	Neil Diamond? Never quite got into him.
	Found him a bit. James Brown?
	I saw James Brown live, actually.
	It was a really disappointing concert.
	I guess he was kind of tired. James Brown?
	Yeah. I mean, you know, for a jailed...
	Jailhouse wife beater.
	He was a great singer.
	And, you know, shake your money maker is a phrase I sort of thought about quite a bit, you know, when it comes to men and women.
	This is a man's world.
	This is fantastic.
	And in excess, love in excess.
	Love, love, love in excess.
	New Sensation was a great hit for me.
	I loved dancing to that song when I was younger.
	But some of the In Excess stuff, it's a little more obscure.
	I know that sounds kind of pretentious, but it is actually really, really good.
	Taste It is a really sexy song that's great to work out to.
	And yeah, he did some just absolutely amazing, wonderful stuff.
	The Stairs also is beautiful.
	The live version they did at Wembley of The Stairs, In Excess.
	Fantastic. Jackson Brown, also not a wife-beater, I guess.
	Didn't he beat up Daryl Hannah or something like that?
	Everyman, pretty good.
	Lawyers in Love, yeah, pretty good, but was a bit overplayed.
	So I never quite got into him too, too much.
	Who else have we got?
	Who else have we got? My brother was really into Blondie.
	Radar Love is a great song.
	They had two hits, right?
	Golden Earring. They had Radar Love and then Twilight Zone, which was also a great song.
	Greatest male voice, Frank Sinatra?
	He was a bit of a musical whore, though.
	He just recorded everything.
	Everything and its dog.
	ZZ Top? The Grange is great.
	ZZ Top has got some great music and great, great musicians.
	My favorite, of course, is The Grange.
	Have I ever studied any martial art?
	No, but I did do Tai Chi in theater school.
	Van Morrison, oh man, you want to hear a great song?
	I cover the waterfront.
	John Lee Hooker and Van Morrison, the cover they do together, oh, so hypnotic.
	It's so hypnotic and so good.
	And so good. Marvin Gaye, also a terrifyingly good singer.
	Like, just how on earth do you do that kind of stuff?
	It's just incredible.
	Steppenwolf. I really only know that one song.
	So Van Morrison, I like a lot.
	It took me a while to get into the voice, but I heard you paid your dues in Canada.
	It's really, really great. Really great.
	Paul McCartney, his solo work was really, really good.
	Really, really good. The Fix.
	One thing leads to another.
	Are We Ourselves?
	I remember that one too. Talking Heads.
	There is water at the bottom of the ocean.
	Yeah, great band.
	Again, took me a little while to get into that voice.
	But yeah, I loved them.
	My favorite song of theirs is Once in a Lifetime, but they had other stuff that was great as well.
	Yeah, you know, there's too much great music.
	Too much great...
	Bo Diddley, fantastic.
	You know, one of the things that got me into remembering that I was a man not raised by a single mom who could actually have balls was listening to...
	And I did a song version of this once on my show.
	Everything, everything, everything gonna be alright this morning.
	Manish Boy. Great song.
	Great song. Supertramp, also fantastic.
	Hall and Oates, pretty good.
	My daughter really liked Rich Girl for a while.
	Was it James Taylor who abused Daryl Hannah?
	James Taylor, wasn't he a drug addict?
	Pretty bad. Stevie Ray Vaughan, Change It.
	Great, great song.
	If you want to listen, Stevie Ray Vaughan, live in Montreal.
	I think it was at the Montreux Festival.
	He does a cover of Tin Pan Alley.
	Oh, the guitar in it.
	It's so good. So good.
	Boomtown Rats. Yeah, but then he got all kinds of nutty, right?
	That guy. Ugh. Super Tramp.
	Yeah, great. Great, great band.
	Asylum is my favorite band.
	Jimmy Breen was king.
	His brain was always winning.
	Yeah, Supertramp was fantastic.
	I was actually really, really passionately attached to the song Asylum.
	It's all about the false self and the true self and how real you can be in the world, which of course is a big challenge for those of us who think for ourselves.
	And I just had a really, really vivid vision one night of my youngest self playing that song on piano, Asylum.
	It was just amazing. Just amazing.
	Don't you look at my girlfriend.
	She's the only one I got.
	Now, does it say I never really get a lot and that I don't get that much sex?
	I don't know. I don't know.
	Human League? I don't know.
	Just one song. Got a little tired of it.
	Roxy Music? Oh, Roxy Music, also fantastic.
	So, you know, everybody knows more than this.
	But there's another really great song on that Avalon album.
	Oh, what's it called? Um...
	Is it raining in New York, down Fifth Avenue?
	Out on Broadway, after dark, love the lights, don't you?
	I'd do anything to turn you on.
	Great, great song.
	And, you know, the singer for Roxy Music also did an album of Broadway classics.
	Gershwin's Sondheim, I think that kind of stuff.
	Miss Otis' Regrets and stuff like that.
	Really, really good. Brian.
	Brian. Oh, come on, you know.
	I know. Brian. The Brian guy.
	Joy Division. Love Will Tear Us Apart.
	Didn't the guy kill himself? Never really got into it.
	Prince. Oh, Prince is tough, man.
	Prince is tough. So, I mean, obviously a genius musician, but man, he was really in love with that shrieky falsetto that he had in Kiss, which is pretty kind of rough.
	He didn't sing a normal song very often.
	I remember seeing Purple Rain and just like, can you just sing a normal song?
	Can you just sing a normal song normally?
	But Purple Rain is a great song.
	Kiss is a great song.
	Sexy MF is a funky song and all that.
	So yeah, I like that. She's South Sanctuary is a great, great song.
	Do you like Toto? Ooh, funny you should mention that, David.
	Toto. Yeah, so Love Isn't Always On Time.
	That's Toto, right? Is that Toto?
	Yeah, Toto and the Africa song, right?
	That was actually one of my first 45s, one of my first singles.
	John Mellencamp. Yeah, I like some of John Mellencamp's early stuff, for sure.
	Pink House, this is a great song.
	It's a great song. Genesis.
	Home by the sea.
	Yes, I like Genesis.
	They got a lot of variety, except for Whodunit, which is a really, really terrible song.
	But yeah, Genesis is great.
	I like Phil Collins' solo stuff.
	In particular, one of my favorite songs from Phil Collins' solo was, oh, take that look of glory, mine's an ordinary life.
	Take Me Home, which had Sting and Peter Gabriel in the backup and all of that.
	So yeah, like that, like that, love that stuff.
	And he had a lot of really cool stuff.
	The Water Boys. You saw the whole of the moon?
	Yeah, pretty, pretty good. Queens of Stone Age?
	Don't know. Rick Springfield?
	Too creepy given what happened forever.
	Muddy Waters was kind of odd.
	Yeah, yeah. Could be. Could be.
	Let's see here. Another little bit.
	Oh my gosh, it's 1.05 in the morning.
	Yeah, we should. We should.
	Let's see here. Ah, Mocky Mock and the Funky Bunch.
	Yeah. Yeah, the whole Avalon album is, of course, really, really great.
	Elvis? Yeah, I like Elvis, for sure.
	Elvis had some really, really great stuff.
	Annie Lennox. Love Annie Lennox.
	Annie Lennox is fantastic.
	There's almost nothing of hers that I don't like.
	And her album of covers.
	Her album of covers.
	I mean, Annie Lennox covering The Clash's Train in Vain.
	She sounds so much like Aretha Franklin towards the end.
	Just amazing.
	Amazing. Billy Joel, fantastic, until you try and sing along with him.
	And I'm like, oh, that's why you guys get paid so much money for this, and I'm a podcaster.
	Guns N' Roses, not so much for me.
	Black Metal? I don't know.
	Tom Petty? Here's the funny thing.
	So Tom Petty. Free Falling is a great song.
	The lyrics on that are really, really great.
	And I thought actually quite a bit about that song.
	I was explaining that song to my daughter a week or two ago.
	Because I'm free, free falling.
	And it's like...
	I'm free...
	And free of rationality, but free falling.
	Like post-modernism, I'm free and free falling.
	Like I'm falling into nothing.
	That's an amazing, amazing set of lyrics.
	And it's a really powerful song.
	Really powerful song.
	All right. Mozart.
	Love Mozart. I actually had...
	I wrote half a book just listening to Requiem on loop to the point where I can sing most of it.
	Not necessarily well, but I can.
	The Cars, Who's Gonna Drive You Home, that's when Rick Okasek was not singing, right?
	And yeah, that is a very interesting song and the music video for it is actually quite tragic.
	And Rick Okasek died.
	Ace of Bass. The Sign was a good song.
	Let's see here.
	Anything Phil Spector produced?
	Alanis Morissette is a terrifying, a terrifying singer.
	She's absolutely terrifying.
	Like, stalky, weird, psycho ex.
	I don't know that she was acting when she sang that Jagged Little Pill album.
	The Who, I like The Who a lot.
	Again, it's maximum R&B guys, right?
	Eric Clapton, you know, I like more of his, you know, the typical album of his Unplugged was really, really great.
	Walking Blues that he does is just fantastic.
	Every Rose Has Its Thorn is also a great song.
	Matchbox 20, yes, really, really good.
	Really good band. Really good band.
	Don't Stand So Close To Me.
	Yeah, it's a good song too. And when the police got back together, that's all they could produce was a cover of their own song and then they just gave up.
	Adamant. You know, it took me forever to realize that's adamant.
	Adamant. The devil take your stereo and your record collection.
	Abba. I never got in too much to Abba.
	Maybe a bit too...
	Chris Cornell.
	Oh my god, that guy. Why would you kill yourself if you could sing that well?
	Like, oh my god. Listen to him do his cover of Billie Jean by...
	Michael Jackson. Oh, it's incredible.
	Eddie Rabbit. I love A Rainy Night.
	It's one of the first songs I ever recorded off the radio.
	Just so you know. Yeah, Chris Connell.
	Just terrible.
	Do you like Salsa Cupid music?
	I'm not sophisticated enough with the genre to be able to tell the songs apart very much.
	Can we talk about Floyd now?
	We are. Just, you know, pink, not George.
	Is Stefan Molyneux a Freemason?
	Because I'm free, Freemason!
	The Who is the best UK band.
	Ah, some amazing, amazing stuff came out of that band.
	I think you managed to cover the world.
	Yeah. Shinato Kana.
	Jagged Little Pill was intense.
	Yeah. Oh, it's a great, great album, but really super intense.
	That bit where she's talking about stalking her boyfriend.
	Terrifying. I saw her live, too.
	Bruce Brothers was one of the first albums I ever bought because I loved the movie.
	And that was sort of my introduction to some of the Motown stuff, which was great.
	Oh, so much to talk about.
	So much to talk about.
	Everything is Automatic, the Dave Matthews Band.
	I like that song for sure. Does he ever shut up?
	Dave Matthews? I don't know. I don't know.
	All right. Listen, we could...
	Yeah, I lost my virginity to I Saw the Sign.
	Well, at least you didn't lose your virginity to All That She Wants Is Another Baby.
	So that's good. All right.
	The Animals? Yeah, good.
	Good stuff. Cheap Trick?
	Yeah, Cheap Trick's got some great songs.
	Great, great songs.
	Mother told me, yeah, she told me.
	Yeah, that's really, really great.
	I'm sure I've got some of these wrong, but Huey Lewis.
	Love Huey Lewis. All the birds have been blue.
	They don't know what to do ever since you said goodbye to me.
	Yeah, he's great.
	He's great. I'm also fascinated by the lives that these guys live as well, so...
	I'm a bit more into the Stones than the Beatles these days.
	I bit OD'd on the Beatles when I was younger.
	So... Waiting for the stream to end so I can watch it two times.
	Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Low-ri-der.
	R.E.M. did some great stuff.
	Couldn't quite get into the...
	The singer.
	But, yeah, they did.
	Did they? Courtney Love.
	Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying human being.
	Live Through This is one of the most frightening music covers I've ever seen.
	The philosophy behind music, yeah.
	CCR. Love CCR. One day you'll understand.
	Great. Great, great band.
	Great band. Oh, yes!
	Venice, Spirit of the West. Venice is Sinking.
	Also a great song. And also, you'll have to excuse me, I'm not at my best.
	That's also a great song.
	Beach Boys biopic with John Cusack, yeah?
	Yeah? Okay. I will check.
	I love music biopics.
	I've watched so many.
	It's like insane. It's absolutely insane.
	All right. All right.
	We should probably end up because we can just...
	Spinal Tap was a hilariously funny movie.
	Simon and Garfunkel? Like Simon and Garfunkel for sure.
	For sure. For sure. Great harmonies.
	And they did a...
	I think it was their first album.
	Simon and Garfunkel did a...
	A Gregorian chant song, like a monk song.
	It was really, really quite something.
	Leonard Skinner. Yeah, well, they had their problems with Neil Young, right?
	To put it mildly.
	Do you listen to 5440?
	Ah, do you know?
	I actually know the drummer.
	What can I tell you?
	Great video series could be on your favorite singers and their psychological issues.
	Yes, it's quite a lot. It's quite a lot.
	It's quite a lot. So this is the diversion technique you use when you find out you are wrong about Floyd and you start talking about music instead.
	Oh, you sad little troll.
	Oh, that's so pitiful.
	Oh, people enjoying themselves and you've got to come in with your politics and you're...
	Ugh, so boring.
	How sad. Just, you know, relax and enjoy yourself once in a while.
	the world will survive.
	Who's the most famous person you've ever met?
	Ah, I have to think about that.
	Thank you.
	Saw Aerosmith in the 90s.
	I've seen Aerosmith a couple of times, and I like them.
	I mean, a dark band, and the singer, I only found out how creepy he was later, but...
	Hey, Steph, would you like to sit down and listen to Keith Richard tell stories?
	Yeah, it could be, I guess.
	Yeah, Dolores A.
	Rortan, she died, right?
	Very, very sad. It's the most famous person I've met, Joe Rogan.
	I didn't even think about that.
	I don't know. I guess. I don't know.
	I don't know. Any Irish favorite song?
	I mean, Danny Boy, of course, is a lovely, lovely song.
	Saga. Yeah, Saga's another band that I had early.
	Humble Stance is a great song by them.
	And Wind Me Up, also a fantastic song.
	And this is one of the few singers who actually sounds better live than he does in the studio.
	It's really, really great. Yeah, great band.
	I never saw them live, but I would go in a moment if I could.
	When are you going to get a new producer and start your long call-in shows again?
	I've gone through so many people in this show.
	I've got to tell you, man. I have gone through so many people in this show.
	I can't even tell you. And there's just not a lot of people who can handle this pace.
	They can't handle this altitude.
	They can't handle this criticism.
	It's really, really tough.
	So we'll have to see.
	We'll have to see. Steph, you can bug out my North Idaho ranch.
	I appreciate that. I really, really do.
	Take a chance on me if you're all alone, the very best, and take a chance on me.
	I'm sorry. Do you like the Smashing Pumpkins?
	I don't really know much about them, other than I look like the singer, right?
	Yeah, Cranberry Zombie's pretty good.
	Yeah, sorry. Yeah, you're right.
	We kind of got off into another topic here, but it was fun.
	It was interesting. So, listen, I should pack it in.
	It was great. Simon and Garfunkel hate each other?
	Yeah, I can understand that. Working together can be tough.
	Working together can be tough. So, alright.
	Well, listen, I really appreciate you guys letting me freak out on the music scene, and I really could do this all day.
	But I guess we'll have to pretend that this was all about the other Floyd.
	So, yeah, thanks everyone so much for a great evening's chat, and I think I did like...
	Nine hours of shows today.
	Anyway, you'll see them as they come out.
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	And do thank her for that, but tell her she needs to do some kegels.
	All right. Have a great night, guys.

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