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July 13, 2019 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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MUST SEE! A Hispanic for Trump Reveals What Mexicans REALLY Think About America!
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Where do I fit in when I'm a Hispanic who supports Donald Trump, doesn't support socialist programs, doesn't approve of illegal immigrants, or opening our borders during the migrant crisis?
I feel like an alien in my anti-Trump Hispanic group of family and friends.
That's from Edward.
Hello Edward, how you doing?
Hello Stefan, how are you?
I'm well, I'm well thanks.
How are you?
I'm good, thank you.
Alright, good.
Give me the back story here.
This sounds like a character that needs some history.
How did this all come about for you?
It's a long story of a lot of flip-flopping between liberals and conservatives and conversations and debating.
I'm the type of person who likes to debate a lot.
I like to talk about any political topics and any kind of situation that's going on in the world.
And little by little, it's kind of been leading me towards you, basically.
And at first, it started off with a lot of liberal, like, socialist things.
Like, oh man, it'd be great to have, like, free this and free that.
And it's just started to all make sense that, like, we can't have free everything and free this and free that.
It's always funny to me how everybody who says, we ought to have free stuff, to me it's like, okay, then go give it for free.
We ought to have free healthcare.
Okay, become a doctor and don't charge people.
We ought to have free education.
Okay, good.
Then start providing it for free.
It's always like, when people say, we ought to have free stuff, they mean, I want other people to work for nothing.
They never mean, I want to work for nothing.
Other people should work for nothing.
Give me free stuff.
And that's what it always translates to me.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I've come to basically understand.
Because of the fact that I'm in deeply in the Hispanic culture and Latinos and everything, I've gotten to see both sides of the world.
It's always been like I've never really fit in with the Latino and Hispanic culture.
I've always been kind of like the oddball, like the Oreo of the group.
And when it comes to me talking to people, like, hey, we don't really need this.
We were once a proud people.
We came here, worked our butts off, worked several jobs like my father did, and we'd bust their asses to get these homes.
But now everybody seems to have shifted to a completely different mindset.
And it's like, I don't know where it's all gone.
Well, you probably do, right?
Which is that there's more free government cheddar.
My Saint hunting anymore, right?
Yeah, pretty much.
It's really hard, especially when I speak to my father.
He's always been telling me, hey, do this, do that, stay in school, do good for yourself.
I don't want you to be where I'm at.
Now I'm at the point where basically I've succeeded my father in pay and knowledge and all these other things.
But everybody who I know has stayed behind.
I haven't seen people really progress.
Everybody's just sitting back and just letting it all come in and out.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be overly white, but I don't know what that last part meant.
They're all sitting back and letting things come in and out?
Are you referring to Hispanic ladies in particular, or is that something I'm not aware about in terms of urban slang?
Probably is quite a bit, in fact.
Well, it's kind of like the mentality, especially in my generation.
People are just like, you know, I'll deal with it when I'll deal with it.
Like, oh, I'll get the money for the house when I get the money for the house.
Or when I need the house.
Or when I get a family.
Or when this and that.
But it's never like, hey, let me worry about this tomorrow.
Or hey, let me make the savings for tomorrow.
Or hey, let me pay off this thing for tomorrow so I don't have to worry about it tomorrow.
It's never really...
Like that, it's always been the opposite of like, hey... It's passive, right?
Yeah.
It's like passive, R-selected, R-selected behavior where, of course, I mean, if you rely on, say, the government or welfare or whatever it is to provide for your survival, then, of course, you're going to be passive because stuff's just rolling your way, right?
Yeah, exactly.
And then what happens is, well, tell me, what I've noticed, Edward, tell me if this is the case for you.
What happens then is there's a huge cultural shift. - Right.
And the cultural shift is you need to chill, man.
Why are you getting so uptight about everything?
It suddenly becomes cool.
To chill, to not stress out, to not work so hard.
You're like a hamster in a wheel.
You've got to join the rat race.
You've got to relax.
You're shortening your lifespan.
And it becomes, instead of being a hustler, which I think is a really great word.
I love that word, hustler.
You know, like, obviously not the fakely criminal connotations, but the getting up early and working hard and hustling, making money, getting the cheddar.
I love that kind of ambition.
And when I was a kid, that was pretty well rewarded.
Like when I got my first job, when I got my first job in a bookstore when I was 11 and people weren't saying to me, what are you crazy?
You got to get up at six o'clock on a Sunday morning to go to work at a bookstore?
Relax, you're going to be out late.
You know, what are you doing?
And so this whole shift happens where suddenly it just becomes a fool's game to work hard and all the cool people get all Jamaican, if that makes any sense.
It's been killing me because I've been trying to tell these people, I've been trying to have these conversations, but everybody's the opposite.
It's like, no man, just don't worry about it.
It's just going to be what it is.
The government's going to always be corrupted.
The politicians are all the same.
Nothing can be changed.
So let's just vote for whoever can give us the best stuff.
Right.
Right, okay.
A bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy is like all the people who post, Europe is doomed!
There's no point in... Okay, well, if you believe that, then I guess it's true.
So, yeah, the politicians are always going to be liars and corrupt, so let's just vote for the lying and corrupt politicians.
Hey, I think you just created a market incentive court.
So, yeah, politicians are all the same, but Trump!
Totally evil.
I've been listening a lot to your show, especially with the past few episodes that you've released.
Sorry to interrupt, but how did you find us to begin with?
It was basically a trail.
I started off with stuff like The Daily Show, and then I kind of walked away from that, from the mainstream stuff.
I found things online like YouTube, like the Young Turks and all those other guys.
But little by little, I started seeing what they were for what they really were.
So I kept progressing past that.
And then just one of these days, it's like your face just showed up in my YouTube list.
I was like, oh, who's this guy?
He has an interesting topic.
Why is there an ostrich egg with teeth showing up in my YouTube feed?
It was really hard to watch your videos.
Honestly, it put me through a depression for a little while.
Do you remember which ones you started with?
It started with what's going on overseas, with the migrant crisis.
It started with that, and then it started with the economy, and how the economy is coming close to basically just falling apart on itself.
So then I was thinking to myself, I was like, hey, I'm putting all this hard work and doing all these things, but it feels like there's so many people working against me, even in the political system.
And the people are just trying to, like, take away what I've been working so hard for.
And it's just, the more I watch your videos, the more I see that, like, there's, like, fewer and fewer people that have that kind of mindset of, like, work hard and you get what you deserve.
And, but, like... Oh, sorry, sorry to interrupt you.
Trust me, my friend.
Everybody gets what they deserve, whether you work hard or not.
Like your layabout companions there who are like, hey, Ivy man, what's gonna happen?
They're gonna get what they deserve, too.
I mean, everybody gets paid, one way or another.
That's true.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but go ahead.
No, it's okay.
So I've been basically looking through all your videos and It was really hard to talk to people about these subjects.
Even to post something on Facebook to say, hey, I support Trump, or hey, I don't believe illegal immigrants should come into the U.S.
I have a whole lot of reasons why I definitely don't believe why illegal immigrants should be coming into the U.S.
It's like first-hand experience with them.
Where are the sanctuary cities for people who don't want to pay federal income tax?
Exactly.
What about just, hey, I don't like these laws, so I'm just not going to obey them, and then everyone's like, woo-hoo, good, you shouldn't obey them, because blah-di-blah-di-blah, it's like, where are the big giant states or big giant sanctuary cities where you just don't have to pay your income tax?
I mean, no, you can disobey the laws of citizenship, and then you've got all these sanctuary cities, but if you don't want to pay your taxes, off to jail with you, or your alimony.
Like, one of the things I really wanted to talk to you about was, like, especially, like, my first-hand experience with illegal immigrants and racism entirely.
And what the weirdest thing about it is, like, you keep talking about IQ and how, yeah, like, the more IQ, the more sincere the person is and the more apologetic they are.
And the more and more that becomes true for me as I look back in my life.
Like, for example, My father, he had a business in the hot center for all illegal immigrants and Mexicans alike.
And basically, you would get these guys that come in and they would give you these paperwork and everything.
They would finance something and then when it comes time to pay up, they moved and they're gone and you never know who they were to begin with.
And it's always been an experience like that with me, with illegal immigrants.
And it's just, I don't I don't understand why people are so adamant about standing up for them, because I don't see anything positive coming from it.
I see what you were mentioning before, where money gets funneled out of the U.S.
through the Western Union, and that's something I thought was normal when I was growing up.
Oh, you mean like the Hispanics would get money from welfare or from work or something like that and funnel it back to Mexico to keep others sheltered and fed, right? - Yeah, exactly.
And it was just like a normal thing.
Like that's what everybody would do.
Like 80% of their paycheck would just be gone to another country.
Like you would never see it again.
And like I never really put the two and two together and realized what that was doing.
And as more and more of that like started coming together for me, like I started realizing that illegal immigrants are definitely a huge issue for the US.
And even though I have Mexican friends and I know some people who are illegal, I do not support what they are doing to this country.
And when I, when I, when I speak out loud about it, I get like, I don't know, it's like kind of weird.
Like they want to call me racist, but they look at me and they see me.
I'm Hispanic.
And they're like, Oh, you're just ignorant.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Like, it's just like, like you, it's just like, Trump is a racist.
Like they kind of go around me and call him a racist.
But Hispanic is not a race.
I mean, that's what's so funny about it.
Um, but culturalist is a problem, right?
I mean, I think it's fair to say that there's a Mexican culture.
Now, that doesn't mean, of course, that all Mexicans are the same, I get that, but, you know, there is a Mexican culture.
And that Mexican culture is complex, there's some variation to it, but it is not the same as what would generically be called, sort of, Wasp American culture.
There are differences.
There's German culture, there's British culture, there's Hispanic, Mexican culture, and that's... So, saying that If somebody says, I have issues with certain aspects of the Mexican culture, then it's very difficult to know how to label someone who criticizes culture.
Right?
So, I mean, if you criticize a religious belief system, then you are critical of a belief system, right?
You say it should be open to examination and unpacking and criticism.
If there are certain cultural aspects that you criticize in a particular culture, yeah, Are you racist for criticizing culture?
Well, of course not, because culture is something that can be adopted by people not of any particular race.
You know, there are the Uyghurs, like the white kids who want to act like rappers or whatever, right?
So you can appropriate particular cultural aspects which has nothing to do with race whatsoever.
Now, that having been said, So it's hard to say, well, you're criticizing a culture.
Because that's a perfectly valid thing to do.
The whole point of philosophy is to criticize culture because culture is not philosophy.
And so there is some opposition and some tension between culture and philosophy.
And when culture gets criticized according to first principles, reason and evidence, it moves closer to philosophy and that therefore gets improved in the same way that if you criticize faith using the scientific method, hopefully you budge people over further from faith to science, which is a rational, better state of mind.
But when you criticize A culture.
Like, let's say, I don't like this about the Mexican culture, I don't like this about the Mexican system of government, I don't like this about, say, Mexican voting patterns.
So the Mexican voting patterns are very clear in the American elections, right?
2000, George W. Bush took 35% of Hispanic vote, Al Gore took 62%.
So a little under double.
So a little under double.
In 2004, 40% for Bush, 58% for John Kerry in 2008.
71% of Hispanic vote went to Obama and Mitt Romney got 27%.
for Obama in 2012, 71% of Hispanic vote went to Obama and Mitt Romney got 27%.
And there's a new poll that has Trump at 28% support with Latinos.
And I know we're Mexican, Latino, Hispanic, we're creating a big mess linguistically, but hopefully people will forgive me for that.
So when you criticize a culture, or you criticize beliefs held by a large group of people, you're just criticizing those beliefs.
You're not criticizing every individual.
You're not saying every individual in that geographical region holds those beliefs, but you're criticizing those beliefs that are held by a lot of people in that geographical region.
Now if you can't pin it on race, Then you're somebody who criticizes Mexican culture.
Well, if you look at blacks, you say, well, they have a culture of single parenthood, a culture of fatherlessness, and they often have a kind of anti-intellectual, don't-act-white culture, which is sort of hostile towards self-improvement, economic advantage, and education, and so on.
Well, is that racist?
No, you're criticizing ideas.
You would criticize any group that held those particular ideas.
If those particular ideas were held by gypsies, you would criticize those ideas.
If they were held by Australian Aboriginals or Sherpas in the Himalayas, you would be criticizing them.
But, you know, if you don't like single motherhood, clearly you would focus your criticism on the group that most manifests.
Single motherhood.
What you're criticizing is single motherhood.
The group that most manifests it may be a racial group for a variety of reasons, but once people can try and pin your criticisms not on behavior patterns or thought patterns or approaches or patterns of reflection, but if they can just pin it on a race, what happens is they got this magic wand to dismiss everything that you're saying because they just get to wipe the board clean The whiteboard, I guess.
In this instance, the whiteboard.
They get to wipe the whiteboard clean.
And what that means is white people can't criticize any group other than white people.
Hey, that's a great deal for bad thinkers and other groups.
But there is criticisms to be made of Latino culture, of Hispanic culture, of Mexican culture.
And it is actually racist to say that criticisms should not be made.
of those cultures because there may be a racial element.
Because that's saying you cannot criticize Mexicans, you cannot criticize Mexican culture, just to pick an instance, you can't criticize Mexican culture because there may be a racial disparity between the white person and the Mexican person who's being, or the Mexican culture that's being criticized.
What that means is that if you are white it is impossible for you to criticize any other culture where there may be a potentially racial element.
And that is incredibly racist, because it's saying, because there's a racist element, sorry, because there's a racial element, criticism cannot be applied.
And that elevates race above reason, above evidence, above criticism, and that is incredibly racist.
So, as far as, you know, I'll do a tiny little rant and then we'll, sorry, We'll get back to it.
Here's my tiny little rant.
I would like not to live in a world where we had to make collective judgments about other cultures and other races.
However, in order to do that, other cultures and other racists would have to stop acting so differently.
Right?
I mean, immigrant welfare usage by sort of origin, geography, right?
In America, not American, sort of American Indians, but natives, regular old Americans, 30%.
Central America and Mexico, 73%.
Europe, 26%.
South Asia, 17%.
Okay, 17% for South Asians, the use of welfare, versus 73% for Central America and Mexico.
Now, I don't know if anyone expects a sane human being who can count To not notice that that is a vast, enormous, staggering multiple of difference.
South Asians, welfare consumption 17%, Central American Mexico 73%.
Now that's a, was it a quarter?
So if you have one group using welfare at a quarter of the rate the other group, or the other group four or so times more, are we not allowed to make any collective judgments about groups that act collectively extremely differently?
I don't know.
People who say, well, you can't do that, I don't know how insane they are that they just can't count.
I mean, look, if all groups were using welfare at the rate of 20%, every single group, 20% or close, you know, like within a polling error of a couple of percentage points.
So everybody, South Asians, Europeans, natives, Central America, Mexicans, all using welfare at 20%.
And you said, I can't stand the way that the South Asians use welfare.
Well, there would clearly be some bigotry because they're acting the same, but you're singling out a particular group.
However, if the groups aren't acting the same, then you have a reason to judge a particular group because they're not acting the same.
And then what people say, what they say is, ah, yes, but they're only acting differently because of racism.
Like, and that, how do you win that?
How do you, how do people know, like how to, to Central America, like Mexicans, they come across the border and they say, Ooh, I don't really want to go on welfare, but I think there are some people who might be racist here.
And because of that, I'm going on welfare.
I mean, that doesn't make any sense at all, at all.
You can't judge groups for their behaviors, but whites, who generally try to avoid racism and even are self-racist, well, whites are racist, okay?
So you can judge all whites as racist and all men as patriarchs and whatever, whatever, right?
But!
When there are clear, huge, massive differences in the way that groups behave in American society, you can't make any collective judgments.
And I say, if I say, hey, you close down these numbers, I'll stop making collective judgments, but I have to be an empiricist.
Yeah, see, that's what kills me about this whole thing.
Like, oh, yeah, white people can't make judgment, but, like, for example, one of my biggest gripes is, like, black women in general, they can make all the kinds of judgments that they want on anybody and get away with it.
Like, I've literally had people tell me, oh, black people can't be racist.
Like, it's impossible.
And I'm like, how can, how can they not be racist?
Like, I've, like, the most amount of racism that I've, like, gone from is actually from, like, the black community.
I've had a black woman who went to our store and she was upset about a product.
And so we explained it to her.
We were very polite with her and everything.
And she told us, like, oh, I'm tired of you Mexicans, like, coming into our country and taking everything we got and our jobs.
Like, oh, you should just go back on your boat and go back wherever you came from.
It just, like, threw me back.
I was like, like, that wasn't, like, craziest moment I've ever experienced in my life.
That was like the first time I've ever experienced racism full-on.
You've got to try being white for a day if you really want to see racism full-on.
I hate to pull the blue-eyed card.
Just imagine being white and picking up the Huffington Post or picking up the New York Times or picking up the mainstream, which is to say leftist stuff.
Tommy Sotomayor is a YouTuber who's got a pretty interesting experiment he runs from time to time.
So what he does is he puts a picture of a beautiful black woman on Facebook and he says, black women are the most beautiful women in the world.
And what do you think people say?
Amen?
Right on!
Absolutely!
More weaves!
Right?
I mean, they love it, right?
And he can do this with other groups, right?
Put Indian women on, and Indian women are the most beautiful women in the world, and oh yeah, they are beautiful, right?
And then what he does is he takes a picture of a Swedish woman, and he says, white women are the most beautiful women in the world.
And what happens?
Races out.
Oh God, the comments fill up with vile, vile, Yeah.
hideous comments of racism and like, it's insane.
The racism that white people, I mean, I don't know.
It's crazy.
- But one of the best things- - You can be a proud Hispanic, right?
- Yeah.
- Can I be a proud white person?
- Yeah.
- No, can't be a proud white person.
You can be a proud black man, and that's great.
You can be a proud Chinese man, you can be a proud Hispanic man, proud of your culture, proud of your heritage.
If I go out and say, I, a square-jawed, blonde, blue-eyed man, am very proud of white culture and white history, what's everyone gonna say?
Uh, Nazi youth?
Skinhead, Nazi, white supremacist!
People don't understand, I hate to say this, it's hard to understand if you're not white just how limited you are in any kind of cultural or historical pride.
Not only limited, you can't express it.
You cannot express it.
There are people who do, and I think that there's a huge amount to admire about white culture.
There's stuff to admire in other cultures too, but there's a huge amount to admire in white culture.
But you can't go out and be thrilled or happy about or admiring of white culture.
Because you're automatically a Nazi who wants to kill everyone.
And all other groups.
You can have... I mean, sorry, I shouldn't say this, Edward, because it's not you.
La Raza, right?
What does that mean?
The race?
The race!
The race!
Everything for the race!
The race for everything!
Now, if you try that as a white person, white race power, what's gonna happen?
Oh, it's, uh, basically like every media outlet, like, pointing at you with their scopes.
I'm gonna start the white panthers!
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine what would happen?
So the amount of ferocity for any kind of Even the word, white pride, what does that mean to you?
What does white pride mean to you?
I want it to mean the same thing that it means for me when I say I'm proud to be who I am.
Why not be proud to be, like, this is like, why not be proud to be who you are?
Why not?
I mean, but, but, and I'm not, look, I'm not saying I'm a big, like, white pride guy, but everybody has to understand the degree to which white people are forbidden, railed against, punished, lives destroyed, jobs destroyed, income destroyed, reputation destroyed, for uttering one-tenth of one percent of any pride in culture or race that every other group is praised for.
That's what gets me really angry nowadays, like, it's... And that's what they call privilege!
Sorry, go ahead.
No, I'm sorry.
I honestly understand everything you're saying.
It really resides with me because I see the injustice that happens to white men, white women, well, more white men than anybody else.
It's disgusting.
If you want to look at the most recent situation, there was a gorilla that was shot in the zoo because it was about to attack or was looking at some kid.
If we're going to do the story, let's do the story.
So we'll get to that in a sec.
Let me just read this before I forget.
All right.
So this is screenshots taken 9 February 2016.
Wikipedia!
Is there ever any inaccuracy in Wikipedia?
Not if you're on the left.
All right.
So Black Pride from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Black Pride.
Black Pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black.
To celebrate heritage and personal pride.
That's black pride.
How about gay pride?
Gay pride is the positive stance against discrimination and violence towards LGBT... I keep thinking that's a sandwich.
People to promote their self-affirmation, dignity, equality rights, increase their visibility as a social group, build community, and celebrate sexual diversity, gender variance, and portable water buffaloes.
That's gay pride.
Asian pride.
In the United States, Asian pride is a positive stance to being Asian-American.
Right?
So that's Asian pride, gay pride, black pride.
I'm sorry we don't have Hispanic pride here, but I'm sure it's there.
Now... No, don't worry about it.
There's parades over here about for it.
What do you think is under Wikipedia white pride?
The Asian pride, gay pride, black pride?
Good, beautiful, wonderful stuff.
White Pride.
White Pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatists, white nationalists, neo-Nazi, and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist viewpoints.
Oh, God.
Oh, it's so terrible.
It's so fucking racist.
And this is all supposed to be in the banner called anti-racism.
Asian pride, gay pride, black pride, hispanic pride, lovely, white pride, evil nazi, genocidal.
It's like, are you people fucking kidding me?
I mean, this is like, I tell you, the whole world has become the onion.
Except, you know.
You peel the onion, it makes you cry.
So I'm sorry we're drifting a little, but I just really wanted to get that across.
Because, again, if you're not white, imagine, imagine, imagine, if you express any pride about your culture, your heritage, you fly any flag, you talk positively about the achievements of your ancestors and so on, and your life is destroyed.
Can you imagine living like that?
The fear, the huntedness, the...
Can't speak of it, the anxiety, the self-hatred, the inability to say no to anything.
God Almighty.
It's really sad.
I wish I could do something about it.
I've been doing something about it.
I've been speaking out about it.
I've been talking to all my friends about it.
This is unfair the way people are being treated out there.
This is not right.
for example when I posted up about a Swedish family were kicked out of their home to make room for migrants and basically I posted that up and I was like hey look this Swedish family got kicked out but they were a white family and the first thing that people said was like oh well they did that to the Native Americans in America so it's just like first come first karma basically yeah yeah
I know I've seen that a million times when white people cause problems for other people it's white people's fault When other people cause problems for white people, it's white people's fault.
Ah, I think I detect a pattern here.
Oh, it's sad.
And people, I don't think they're conscious of it.
Like, I don't think your friends are sitting there going, wow, we really want to bash on white people.
Like, we just fucking hate those white people.
And like, they don't.
It's just an automatically programmed response.
Automatically programmed response.
And this idea that you just, you bag on white people, you can shit on white people, you can attack white people, you can condescend white people, you can blame white people.
We are the unprotected group.
We are the open season group for people to vent all their frustrations and hatred on.
And this is somehow privilege.
I mean, when people see it, it's like, once you see that, you can't unsee it.
But it seems impossible for people to see.
You know, it's the old thing, you try talking about any other group that way.
Try talking about any other group that way.
The way that they talk about white people, people's heads would explode.
And I gotta tell you, it's pissing off a lot of white people.
Yeah.
I mean, for a while, it's like, okay, we'll try that.
We'll give it a shot.
You know, we'll get rid of all in group preference.
See how it goes.
Let's try and get to a post racial society.
Okay, we're apparently we're very advantaged.
Because winter for hundreds of thousands of 100,000 years, we're very advantaged.
We're gonna just, you know, we're gonna accommodate, we're gonna affirmative action, let people in, give money, give welfare, give like, we're gonna just give, give, give, right?
I mean, someone recently did a calculation.
The average black person costs $7,700 more in government services per year than they pay in taxes.
People are like, OK, well, you know, that was privilege and slavery, Jim Crow.
We're going to put all that aside.
We're going to give, give, give, give, give, right?
And it's not working.
Of course, it's a government program.
Of course, it's not working.
But yeah, the white people, I mean, I can see it on the web.
And it's not as fringe as it used to be.
White people are getting pretty pissed off at this.
You build a society that everybody wants to get into.
Apparently we're so racist everybody just wants to see it right up close.
Don't want to stay away.
That guy's got the most racist hotel ever.
I'll pay any price to get there.
What?
Build these societies.
Try and treat minorities as well as humanly possible.
And transfer massive amounts of wealth, give up in-group privilege and focus on the comfort and security and forward movement of minorities and so on.
And boy is it ever not working.
It's not working for minorities, it's not working for white people.
And it's going to change.
And people who haven't seen pissed off white people for a while are going to be a little surprised.
I'm hoping to avoid all of that, but I'm just pointing it out.
You can only poke the wasp nest, literally.
You can only poke the wasp nest for so long.
Well, it's already evident of it, right?
With the nationalist groups that are already organizing throughout the Sons of Odin.
Yeah.
And I'm pretty sure it's just around the corner from the US.
And that's what scares me for my future and my kids.
The stigma of being related to these... These racists!
Let's call them what they are!
They're anti-white racists, and it's not all they are, but when the question came up, when the question comes up, too bad, right?
Like, how the fuck does some Swedish guy who's 40, how is he responsible for what happened in the days of Christopher Columbus on the other side of the world when smallpox, which nobody knew anything about, nobody knew how to cure, when smallpox, they didn't even have a germ theory of disease, for God's sakes, they didn't even know how disease transferred.
So how the fuck is some Swedish guy responsible for the transmission of an illness by methods nobody understood about on the other side of the world over 500 years ago?
Oh, they're all white!
So, I mean, if I said all black people are responsible for black crime, people would say that's insane.
At least that's in the same time frame!
If I said all black people are responsible for slavery 500 years ago, people would go fucking nuts, and rightly so.
It'd be a horribly racist thing to say.
But when people say, well, white people are really not doing well in Europe at the moment, oh, it's karma!
Because their ancestors were forced into the Navy and the Army to be colonists for their overlords, and so, boom, karma, bitch!
It's like, oh, you You fucking racists.
You unbelievable racists.
Not you, right?
And this is what people say.
This is the most amazing thing, right?
Liberals.
If Trump wins, I'm moving to Canada.
It's like, why?
Why not move to Mexico?
Well, if Trump wins, he's racist.
So I'm going to move to a country that's much whiter than America.
What?
If Trump wins, and you don't want to be perceived as a racist, and you think Trump is a horrible anti-Mexican racist, go move to Mexico!
No!
I want to move to where white people are in charge, because I'm concerned that Trump might be a racist!
Oh, God.
All right, let's do the gorilla.
Sorry, is there something you wanted to add there?
No, I was just saying, like, I'd be glad to open the door for them, and they'd be like, oh, don't let it hit you on the way out.
And this is called whitesplaining.
So the black Sorry.
A four-year-old kid climbs over a fence, wanders across 30 yards, falls into a gorilla pit, into the water, right?
And you can watch the video on YouTube.
I think it's on YouTube.
And the gorilla is dragging the kid through the water.
It's not safe.
It's not a safe environmental situation.
You can get this from Paul Joseph Watson's Twitter feed.
I'm totally stealing it from him.
And this is black people talking about what happened.
That gorilla was taken from its homeland.
It's not hideous, but anyway.
That gorilla was taken from its homeland, put in captivity, and then killed to preserve white life.
That sounds familiar.
Huh.
Okay, so apparently all white people are to blame now.
And so they were going to shoot the gorilla.
Of course, everyone says, why didn't you shoot it with a tranquilizer?
It's 400 pounds.
I mean, that gorilla can crush a coconut with one hand.
I mean, if the gorilla suddenly decided to play peekaboo in the kid's neck by ripping its head off, it would be over in about a tenth of a second and that kid would be dead.
So they couldn't tranquilize it.
They had to shoot it and it died.
It was 17 years old.
It was a red gorilla or whatever.
Someone else, another black person wrote, at the end of the day, the gorilla was minding his own business.
White parenting at its finest.
Another black guy wrote, I really feel bad for that gorilla.
He was living his life.
Next thing you knew, a white boy trespassing in his home, but he'd be getting a shot for it.
Another guy, the gorilla was minding his own business.
It's the mama's fault.
And the curious little white, all caps, boy, want to bother people.
Black people don't even go by the rail.
If the gorilla knew they was kill him, he should have choked that little white boy like Melvin did Jody.
I don't know what that, do you know what that means?
I don't know.
Melvin?
Mike, do you know what?
I don't, but there's one that's not included in here that I thought was rather interesting.
They were like, the gorilla was 17, black, and unarmed.
Oh.
Right.
Eight lives matter.
Okay.
This gorilla was trying to die today over a dumbass little white boy with stupid payments.
Smash my head.
R.I.P.
My dog.
Dog!
Anyway, so this killing an endangered gorilla at a zoo for a white boy's safety is white privilege.
If the boy was black, they'd have found a tranquilizer.
It's great.
Now the twist of course is that the boy, and not coincidentally his parents, were black.
And the father, fulfilling a lot of cliches, had a lengthy criminal history and so on, and now the black parents are being investigated for their role.
Yeah, just, you know, everything's about race, and white people are to blame for everything, and you can't look up any facts, just go around blaming white people!
And, uh, that's what they call privilege.
Yeah, it just pisses me off.
I've had conversations with people who are like, hey, someone posts up of someone getting arrested, like a cop arresting a black person, and I just look forward into it.
I like to see what happens, what the guy has on his records and everything.
And the guy has several records with being caught with an arm and a few other things, like drugs.
And when I brought this up to the person who posted up the video, I was like, oh, fuck, fuck police.
Like, fuck white people.
And I was like, hey, by the way, this guy has a history of these things.
Like, there's a reason why they came up to him this way.
And the guy was like, oh, facts don't matter.
Like, that shit's been in the past.
Like, it doesn't matter what happened in the past.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Drug trafficking and kidnap was what the... This is the dad of the kid in the enclosure, right?
What was it?
In drug trafficking.
Kidnapping and drug trafficking.
So he's good at confining kids who aren't his own.
Anyway, all right.
No, it is mad.
Wait, Edward, are you saying that a black person was saying that what happened in the past doesn't matter?
Yeah.
Like slavery?
Exactly.
Like Jim Crow?
Like segregation?
What happened in the past doesn't matter?
I'm actually down with that.
I'm totally down with that.
I literally wanted to take my computer and just throw it out the window.
I was like, done.
I was like, I hate everybody on the internet.
It's so... But you like me!
Just with my manly voice.
Yeah, there we go.
It's just something about that head, you know.
That's right.
That's not a forehead, that's an eight head.
Right.
Okay, so let me ask you this.
I mean, because we've talked about race and IQ and stuff like that.
And look, people who say there are no problems with Hispanic or Mexican culture, do you know what the age of consent is in Mexico?
Twelve.
To have sex with someone?
It's twelve.
Twelve!
Twelve.
It's twelve!
Twelve.
Twelve!
Twelve!
But apparently, on frats, there's a rape culture in America!
Twelve!
What is the story with that?
I mean, do they die at fourteen?
You gotta get your sperm in?
Twelve!
Where the hell does that come from?
It's just backwards thinking.
I don't even know how to describe that.
I mean, it's not just shocking to me, right?
I don't want to be an old fuddy-duddy, but... I don't know.
If the wine hasn't properly aged yet, I don't think it should be banged.
If it's, you know, it's wrong.
No, I brought this up to people.
I was like, Hey, like when, for example, when Trump says like, Oh, they're bringing in rapists and like, uh, but not bringing in rapists, but like the illegals are criminals.
Like they're not Americans.
They don't have rights.
They're criminals.
Like they're breaking the law and getting into the U S that way.
Like I spent five years without my father because he did everything the proper way.
Like I have no sympathies for like these like illegal immigrants.
I spent so many years without my father.
Your father was going through the bureaucracy, which is ridiculous for trying to get into America, right?
I mean, the average wait time in India is like 30 years or something.
But you're saying your father had to wait, right?
Yeah.
I spent so many years without my father.
The first five years of my life, I never knew my father.
He was over here working his ass off and working two jobs.
And then finally, he was able to approve me, my mother, and my sister.
And then we were able to come in, and then, um, my mother then had to bust her ass, because they had to work, like, four jobs in between them.
And, um, because of the fact that they were working all these jobs and paying these bills and everything they had to do to help us survive, I barely, like, knew my mother as well, because, like, even though we were still with them, Like, they were working their asses off the whole time.
I have no sympathy for people who ask for welfare.
I have no sympathy for people who are illegal immigrants because they basically are avoiding all the struggles that my family had to go through and everything that they had to...
achieved in order to make sure that I had a good life.
And I see the differences between these people, like between the people who go through the due process and the people who don't go through it.
And the people who don't go through it never assimilate with the rest of us.
Like these people, they don't go outside of their circles.
They stay in their circles.
They have Spanish communities, their Spanish grocery stores, their Spanish nightclubs, everything.
You'll never see them go outside that city.
It's always in that one city.
They just spread.
They can go through half their lives with having very little contact with non-Hispanic cultures, right?
Yeah, and when I think about that, and I think about the migrant crisis, and I think about that, it's just like on steroids.
You're just injecting people after people who are never going to assimilate.
It's just never going to happen.
It's just never going to happen.
No, Muslims have been going to other countries for 1,400 years.
Yeah, but there's a difference between a Muslim who... Not a lot of assimilation going on.
Let me just... Go ahead, sorry.
I'm sorry.
I have Muslim friends who are moderate and they went through the same process that my father went through and it's like really tragic when you see these people who don't see their father for like 10 years or like 20 years and like they have full-grown children overseas and they never see these kids.
But they're busting their asses over here and then but at the same time it's also a problem because they're also spending money over there.
So it's like really hard to like I find a middle ground, but at the same time I don't really have sympathy for anybody who doesn't go through the due process that I went through, the heartache that I had to go through.
This is a little bit of information for those who don't know.
Rape in Mexico is prosecuted at the state level, state laws vary.
A review of criminal laws in all 31 states showed that many required that if, for example, a 12-year-old girl accused an adult of statutory rape She had to first prove that she was, quote, chaste and pure.
Chaste and pure.
Nineteen states in Mexico required that statutory rape charges be dropped if the rapist agreed to marry his victim.
Now that's what I call bit of a rape culture.
You can't hear it, right?
I mean, feminists should be outraged at incursions of this kind of culture into America.
But they're not!
They're the biggest hypocrites.
They don't talk about any of this stuff.
I'm probably going to go through this whole thing going, hey, this stuff pisses me off, this pisses me off, all of it pisses me off.
It's such a great injustice like everybody who's like just trying to like like live their life and like do do the best they can and it's just like you see these like assholes out there I just like talking about like rape culture rape culture rape culture but when you talk about like the other situations outside the country and like the real rape culture they want to like just like oh I didn't hear any of that or you'd not like we're not focusing on that we're focusing on what's going on here one step at a time.
In one village in Guero.
Guero?
state.
Elders were recently asked how they punished rape.
The six men look confused, as if they did not know what the term meant.
When it was explained to them, they all laughed and said, it sounded more like a courting ritual than a crime.
When they stopped laughing, they said, a rapist would probably get a few hours in the local jail, or he might have to pay the victim's family a $10 or $20 fine, but it would all be forgotten if he and the victim married.
Now, in the case of a cattle thief, they said he would be jailed.
And unlike the rapist, a cattle thief would be brought before the elders for a lecture about the severity of the crime.
So yeah, rape a 12-year-old, eh, 10 buck fine.
Marry the woman, whatever.
Marry the girls, fine.
But boy, if you steal a cow, well, that's some serious shit, man.
You've got to deal with that.
I mean, that's not a courting ritual.
Or if it is, I guess Thailand is the end destination.
But yeah, it's astonishing.
It's absolutely astonishing just how insane it is.
Yeah.
That's the kind of stuff that just makes me like, I don't know.
It's depressing to know that this is what's going on and then how shut people are away from the real situations of this world.
And here's the thing too, right?
Here's the insane thing.
I'm sorry, I'll shut up.
Here's the insane thing.
White culture has been punishing rape severely for 2,500 years, at least.
At least 2,500 years, white culture has been severely punishing rape.
Mexico, $10 fine, dropped and waived if you marry your rape victim.
Oh, and if she's not chaste and pure, it's not even a crime.
Here's the insane thing.
I think we can safely say it's better with white laws regarding rape than with Mexican laws regarding rape.
But white people are not allowed to have any pride.
but Mexicans are allowed to have all the pride in the world because who wouldn't want to celebrate a $10 fine 12-year-old rape culture?
All right.
That is off my chest.
So So so what's it like?
What's it like I know we're generalizing, right?
But what's it like?
Lift the lid for me, right?
I mean, I don't get a chance to listen to a lot of unfiltered conversations from your group.
You know, it's okay.
You can tell me.
I mean, who else is listening, right?
Come on.
What is said about Trump, about white people, about America?
What is the conversation?
I had a great black guy on who was talking about this a couple of weeks ago.
You know, let's have an honest conversation.
About what is said.
Like, this is exactly why I wanted to come on because I wanted people to know, like, this is the conversations that are being had.
Like these, this is like, it's, it's people are having like these like ridiculous fantasies.
They're like, oh, if Bernie Sanders is elected, we're all going to have weed.
We're all going to have like free this, free that.
And then, and when you hear about Trump, it's like, oh, he's racist.
Like, and then it was like, okay, well, why is he racist?
And then it's like, no, he said that Mexicans are all rapists.
And then it's like, and that's the only thing to go off of.
And then even if you try to get past that, then it's like, oh, well, you know, it's this, uh, they're richer than us.
So we got, it's gotta be us against them.
So like, uh, I had a family member who told me, he was like, cause, uh, like I said, like I've done pretty good in my life.
Like I'm, I'm in a better place than, than most people I know around me.
And, um, And one person told me, he was like, Hey, like, I was like, Hey, like I'm voting for Trump.
And he's like, well, I'm not voting for him because he's for like the upper class.
Like he's not for me.
Like he's, he's not gonna help me in my situation and the money I need.
And I'm like, well, no one can help you except yourself.
But like, it's just the commentality that people have is like, they're waiting for like this savior, but they're waiting for like also a white savior who's like Bernie Sanders.
So I'm like, they hate white people, but they want a white savior.
Well, he is Jewish, technically, so there's arguments about his whiteness.
Let's dig a little deeper.
What do some of the people you know say about white people as a whole?
Good and bad.
Well, I mean, most people, they would try to say, oh, they're racist, or they think they're better than us, or something like that.
Or like, for example, when girls walk into Starbucks or something like that, like Latino girls, they would say, like, oh, look at those bougie, like, whatever, so and so.
It's just like all kinds of hate just because they're in that kind of position.
And it's just like...
It sounds like it's, like, just aimed towards white people, but it probably most likely is, but at the same time...
I've also experienced it aimed towards each other.
Like, for example, like, Dominicans and Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and whatever you want, like, they would fight against each other and they would call each other, like, crap and all kinds of things.
And it's the same thing that happens within, like, black communities.
Like, if you're light-skinned than another person or darker-skinned than the other person, then, like, a white-skinned person, like, they'd be considered, or a light-skinned person, they'd be considered white.
And they're like, oh, well, like, stop acting white or stop acting this.
Like, oh, why are you talking white?
It's like stigmatized.
What does acting white mean?
What are the behaviors that would get that label?
Just speaking proper English.
Proper English, proper manners, paying your bills off time.
Just a consideration.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Like anything that basically is just not like hip hop culture or whatever you can think of.
Like, it's just, it's all frowned upon and labeled as, as acting white.
And, um, it's kind of, like, stigmatized.
Like, if you associate yourself as a, as a white person, or associate yourself with white people, or if you act in any kind of sort of way as a white person, then you kind of, like, Like fall in this category of like being like this like stigmatized person where you're like, oh, you're just acting white.
Like you're just like this.
And it's not like, why don't you just act like the rest of us?
And it's, it's, it's acting white.
It's like, Oh, is it the old thing that a lot of low rent people say?
And this is true among white people as well.
Oh, you just think you're so much better than us.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, who are you putting on air is thinking you're so much better than us.
Right.
Yeah, and it's like you try to make it in this world and then basically as soon as you try to do that, people start talking bad about you.
Like, oh, look at what he's doing.
Like, oh, look at what he's done.
And then it's just like, oh, well, that's not a real, like, so-and-so jacket or that's not a real business in that.
Like, it's all fake.
And it's just like your own people, like, bringing you down to their level.
Like, it's constant.
It's always all the time, like, your own people, like, holding you back because they don't want to get out of their shell.
And when was, Edward, when was the last time, if ever, that you heard someone say something really positive about white people?
Like from another, like, Latino or?
That's a nice long pause there, my friend.
Yeah, someone in your community, right, who's like, you know, those white people, they've got this together, or they've got that together, or they built a pretty great country, or they sure invent a lot of shit, or, you know, I'm glad to have this stuff, like, whatever.
Something positive about white people.
I've heard that from my mother, like, and my mom is like, kind of like a person who always, like, tries to, like, do her best for me.
And she said, like, oh, yeah, well, you know, Like, uh, she's kind of, like, really brutal about what she says, too.
Like, she's like, oh, like, like, like, uh, like, remember how I told you that I had a situation where, uh, a black woman was very, like, like, basically racist towards us?
So, like, she would say, like, oh, like, all black people are the same.
Like, they're, they're just, they're just, like, just, um, just very nasty, nasty people and, like, unpolite.
And then she says that she actually enjoys doing business with white people because white people always, Okay.
And your mom sounds great.
stay on time and they're always like polite and always nice about things like they never like you never have a situation where like you're like hunting them down or like waiting for them to like say something nasty to you like it's always like hey like we're having different views or like I need this from you and like let's have a conversation about it and like okay and your mom sounds great but other than your mom
positive things about white people that you've heard Not even from my white friends have I heard positive things.
No, no.
Forget your white friends.
No, no.
We're trying to zero in on something here.
I'm not trying to catch you.
I'm genuinely curious, because I don't think white people understand this very well, which you will get to.
But if there hasn't been anything, that's fine.
I'm just curious.
Because white people talk a lot about the positive values of other cultures and other races and other ethnicities and so on.
What have you heard, if anything, that's positive about white people from your friends?
If I wanted to be 100% honest, I really don't hear much of anything, if anything at all.
Is that zero?
We've got a big bagel coming up.
No, that's not your fault.
I mean, I'm enjoying the conversation.
I think it's a very honest and frank conversation, which I appreciate you having, so I'm not including you in this.
And I'm sure you would say positive things about white people.
To be fair, there are positive things to say about white people.
But are you saying, so among your friends in general, you can't think off the top of your head of a positive conversation about white people?
No.
The only thing I hear about is just like, oh, they have good credit.
I'm sure that's privilege.
It's got nothing to do with paying off your debts.
That's the only thing I really hear positive about white people.
It's usually stigmatized to be associated or think that white people are cool.
You see it in every culture.
Mainly black and hispanic cultures.
They have a vendetta against white people.
If they see any of their own kind Like, moving forward, they basically call them a white person, or acting white, as if it's a negative thing.
Like, if it's something that you shouldn't be proud of, just basically saying, like, being white, you should not be proud of being white.
Being white is a shameful and hateful thing.
Yeah.
To act that way, right?
It's disgusting.
I don't understand why that's a thing.
It took me so long.
I do.
I do.
We'll get to that.
And this is something, I don't want to put words in your mouth, right, so tell me if I go astray at all here, but I think this is something that white people have trouble understanding.
That there are a lot of minorities that really, really hate white people.
Yeah.
Like really, really hate white people and I gotta think are kind of laughing at white people with their big giant multiculturalism embrace and, you know, let's all get along and here's some affirmative action and we're going to pay this and we're going to give you preferential loans for your businesses and we're going to promote you and we're It's like, don't you know we hate you?
Like, I gotta think from the viewpoint of like, we're making fun of you guys, we think white people are ridiculous, we think they're bad, we think they're corrupt, we think they're exploitive, we think they're nasty, we think they're bad dancers, they're uncool, they don't know how to have good sex, like they're just a goofy, ridiculous, dangerous race.
And I think that white people don't understand Just how a lot of minorities really, really don't like white people.
Yeah, it's true.
We can be honest, right?
I mean, we can be honest about this.
We're just trying to deal with the facts, right?
I feel bad for laughing about this because it's not really funny.
It's really heartbreaking to see.
The fact that, like, I could be proud of myself, but, like, my friend who's white, or, like, some of my past girlfriends, like, I'm a proud person who didn't even want to, like, date, like, Hispanic women or black women.
I only wanted to date white women, because, like, like, you've had plenty of, like, conversations about, like, what happens with, like, a lot of, like, um, black women and white women, and Hispanic women, and how they treat their men, and how men treat them, and just, like, how Negative they are towards each other and so it's always been something that I've like always been against like like that like to to hate like a hispanic woman or a black woman and so
When I think about that, I think about it like, okay, so why did I really want to, like, date a white girl?
And then I started realizing, I was like, because they have, like, their stuff together.
Like, they're intelligent.
I can have a good conversation.
Like, one of my main things is, like, having a conversation with somebody.
And when I started looking at that, and I started realizing, like, a lot of my culture is just, like, against all this, like, open-mindedness and being white and, like, and just living, like, that American dream and all those things.
And it's just, like, I'm trying not to generalize everybody, but it's just hard.
If you've said that over your entire, you know, you're coming on for your third, when you're in your third decade, right?
Yeah.
So over your entire adulthood, which is, you know, closing in on 30 years, you can't remember a single positive conversation you've had up here, whether any positive feeling or thought has been expressed towards white people?
I mean, imagine if I said that.
Imagine if I said, you know, at your age, I've had countless conversations with my white friends about blacks, and everything has been negative, and there's not been one positive thing to say about blacks, or Hispanics, or whatever, right?
It is terrible.
It is terrible.
Like, I understand it.
I don't think a lot of white people understand it.
And I think that white people don't understand it is a great tragedy.
Because look, Your friends should not be getting away with this stuff any more than a white person should be getting away with stuff talking trash about other races, right?
Exactly.
I mean, probably deep down they know that this is racist and bigoted and anti-white hatred and all that, and it's not right.
You move to someone's country, take a lot of their resources, consume welfare, consume public schools, consume health care, and then just shit all over your hosts?
That's pretty crappy, right?
Yeah.
I mean, if Mexicans are so great, why don't they fix Mexico?
I mean, that's not an unfair thing to say, right?
Why you gotta run to white countries if Mexicans are so great and white people are so bad?
What's up with that?
Now, again, I understand it all, but that is something that could easily be asked and reasonably be asked, right?
How are you doing in this conversation, brother?
You seem a little like, don't make me talk about it.
Are you okay?
I really wanted to have this honest conversation with you.
I've watched so many of your shows and I've never really seen a Hispanic person come out and talk to you.
So I wanted to be brutally honest with you.
I wanted to have this open conversation with you, but at the same time, it makes me realize how bad things are.
Like I said, it's depressing.
You want to think the best of your people, but then you start seeing the true ugly side of it.
It is ugly, but it's also not exactly entirely the fault of Your people, so to speak, right?
I mean, because white people put up with it.
White people don't ask about it.
White people, I won't say invited.
I don't want to blame the victim and all of that, but white people don't have these frank conversations.
They don't talk about race and culture with other groups openly and honestly.
And I don't want to say, you know, bring it on themselves and all of that.
But, and by the way, we have had tons of Hispanic callers.
It's just, it has not really centered as much around questions of racist as much as this caller is.
But, um, Right?
It's not working for white people.
It's not working for Mexicans.
It's not working for blacks.
That doesn't mean it can't, but right now it's all government run, right?
It's all race relations are a government program.
Cultural relations, multiculturalism, migrant crisis, immigration, all of this is a government program.
And government programs screw things up and make everything worse.
And violence does that.
Coercion does that.
And I think that There can be positive and beneficial interactions between ethnicities and so on.
But first of all, we got to get real, right?
Shit just got real.
We got to get real with each other.
There is a lot of anti-white hatred in the world.
I would say it's one of the most foundational emotional drivers in the world at the moment is hatred and resentment and frustration and envy and all of that towards white people.
Because that's the one group that can be attacked with impunity, white people and Christians, as long as they're white, right?
That is the group, white people are the group that can be attacked with impunity, that you can be racist towards with impunity, that you can deny cultural pride to and consider yourself a virtuous person for doing so, that you can denigrate and put down and it's fine.
And we all know it's not a sustainable situation, right?
It can't work in the long run because white people are gonna justly get really pissed off.
You know, I can't speak for white people.
It's boring, it's tiring, it's stupid, and it's very dangerous for everyone involved to keep piling on this way.
And I don't blame them.
Like, I really don't.
Like, it's something that needs to happen because, like, They need to, like, basically have, like, their own backbone for this.
Like, they need to stand up and say no.
I blame them.
I blame white people a little bit.
I blame white people a little bit because, you know, there's this terror of being called racist.
And it's like, when the hell did this become something which makes you give up everything that you treasure and that other people treasure about white-run societies?
I mean, it's weird.
It's like, for example, all the white people I've known, they've always been polite, always been open to invite me into their homes and everything.
And when I come over to their house, they're very, very good at entertaining their guests.
They're friendly, right?
Good hosts, right?
And when I go to someone else's house, like a Hispanic or a Black house, it's just the opposite.
It's just like kids running all over the place, nothing's really picked up, and it's just like, sit wherever you want to sit, like, oh, you're thirsty?
Whatever.
That kind of thing.
And it's just like, it's not the same.
And I don't understand, because when I see music videos and stuff like that, specifically hip-hop, I was watching a music video where There was a rapper who was singing and then he had a courtroom portrayed.
And so everybody who was in the audience was basically black.
And then the defendant and him, he was black.
But then the judge was a white woman.
The officer was a really overweight white man.
And then the jury was all white women.
And I'm looking at the video and I'm realizing He can't even portray in his own music video that his own people can be judges, that they can be police officers, that they can be, like, righteous, like, jury people who show up to do these things.
And the way he does portray his people are, like, these, like, really ratchet, like, half-naked, like, and then, like, the clips that would go off of it, just people, like, holding guns and all kinds of things in front of, uh, in front of, like, a, um, a car or a liquor store, and that's how he'd rather portray his people rather than portray them in a positive light, even when he has full control over the situation.
You have to be, because there's a well-oiled attack machinery that is ready and poised to destroy the lives of creators if they accurately reproduce what occurs in society.
So for instance, I've always heard of this dong dong law and order, right?
I've never I didn't know much about it, right?
So I was browsing on Netflix, and I watched an episode or two, and then I watched an episode or three, and then I watched half a season.
And I stopped watching it.
Because just about every criminal is a white person in New York.
In New York, just about every criminal is a white person.
Now, if they were to go by the actual arrest statistics, and accurately reflect the number of minorities, in particular blacks and Hispanics.
Asians don't exist, remember?
If they were to say, okay, well we're going to take the arrest ratios, we're going to take the conviction ratios, and we're going to accurately portray that in the Law & Order series, what do you think would happen?
Yeah, it'd be a hell to pay.
Everybody would flip out and lose their heads.
Yeah, like 9 out of 10 of the criminals or 8 out of 10 of the criminals would be visible minorities.
And everybody would go insane and say, this show is incredibly racist for accurately reflecting reality.
Oh my gosh.
So if you're a white person, you have to navigate this shit all the time.
I can't speak the truth.
I can't speak facts.
You know, this is, they're called on the internet hate facts or facts be racist kind of thing, right?
You can't talk about facts because you are a racist for accurately identifying things in reality.
You know, the crazy thing about this is that I've been basically spreading a lot of your videos and a lot of stuff from Paul Joseph Watson, Milo, and a lot of these other people who are rising up, and it's just like...
When I share these things, I think people do a double take of my photo and my name.
Like, oh, is that guy white?
No, no, he's not white.
Can I call him racist?
I probably can't anyway, right?
Yeah, and they do kind of like a weird, either they avoid the subject entirely or they kind of try to go around me and call the source racist.
Yep.
And then I met the people who are just overly full of themselves.
I guess like Black Panthers or people who are just like super for their own side.
And then they would bring on the full-on racism towards me.
And they would be like, oh, you're just a pawn in the white man's scheme.
You're acting white!
Yeah, and the communists used to have the same thing.
If you're a worker and you didn't feel exploited and you were happy to have a job, then you had false consciousness and you were wrong Even though you had good arguments and you felt perfectly happy being an employee.
It doesn't matter, right?
Because people can just say, well, you're wrong.
And they don't have to prove anything.
They just have to... All they have to do is say that you're judging any kind of collective group differently and it doesn't matter if there are facts behind it.
Doesn't matter.
In fact, if there are facts behind it, that's even worse because you've researched other racists or something like that, right?
And this is a very dangerous situation.
It's a very dangerous situation.
This is where societies get really messed up when a particular group is constantly attacked and denigrated and lives in fear.
And white people live in fear of being called racists.
You don't have that fear.
I mean, I know that you live in fear of ostracism or acting white or being successful or, you know, all the other things which I actually admire you for.
I mean, the job that you've made of your life sounds great, but you don't live in that kind of fear.
And if, again, if you're not white, it's hard to know how much fear white people live in, in being called racist.
And look, it's not just, I mean, it's not just minorities who are calling whites racist.
Whites can be some of the first to pile on with that and Jews, but whites, I understand the fear, too.
Not that I fully understand it, but I see where the fear is coming from.
When I see people talk about these subjects and people bring this up, and I try to bring it up, I see people who get attacked at their jobs.
be threatened to lose their job.
They would call their jobs and send in letters and until the person loses their job for false claims, they aren't satisfied.
And it just goes to a whole personal level with these people and it's insane.
And I think about it myself and I'm like, oh man, if I post some of this stuff, will I be putting my job at risk?
And I'm like, well, I'm not really white.
I'm not going to lose my job because they can't say I'm racist, or at least some of them can, but who's going to really believe them?
Well, no, listen, I hate to alarm you, but I wouldn't be so sure of that, my friend, because you would think that women couldn't be called sexist, but if you are a woman who's, say, on the right, or who's a conservative, and you don't tow the leftist feminist party line, I mean, they'll work to try and destroy you even though you're a woman.
But look, I mean, you are a very smart man and if, you know, smart people can't have conversations about this stuff, you know, we have conversations to avoid escalation, right?
You know this.
If you don't talk about things and people brood and simmer and get frustrated and don't communicate, that's when things hit a boiling point.
So the fact that you and I are having this conversation is really, really important.
Right?
I'm learning something about your culture and your background and your relationships and you're learning something about my culture, my background and my relationships.
And this is an incredibly rare conversation to be having in the world.
Isn't it great?
Yeah.
I'm not saying fun, but great.
I, you know, cause I was always told to have honest conversations about race.
And I, when I was younger, I was foolish enough to think that's what was actually meant rather than shut up white people and pay up.
But, Now did you something else you wanted to add because I wanted to end up with sort of like I kept saying well I understand it and I haven't really explained why but is there anything else you wanted to to add Edward to what we've been talking about so far?
No, the only thing I want to add is just like I wish more people would talk up about this like whether it's white, blacks, Hispanics like there's I feel like there's more of us than there are of them and I just really wish people would just like stand up for themselves.
I want everybody to get together and just really work on this situation because it's not going to go away.
It's going to get worse before it gets better.
It's just way too many people, especially in my generation, are just sitting back and just letting it happen, and I wish that it wasn't that way.
I wish that people would actually speak out their minds and not let the buffoons and the racists and the true sexists of this planet take over.
Right.
You say you think there's more of us than of them, but I just wanted to have you circle back to what you said earlier when you said you couldn't remember a single positive thing that your peers had ever said about white people.
I'm not sure that there are as many as you think there are.
Well, I'm thinking like in a more broader term, like more of like cross... Oh, the people you don't know?
Yeah, like cross races.
So the imaginary Aragorn-based army of the undead is going to come through and heal race relations in the West?
I'm just, you know, I don't want you to have false optimism.
And you've said, I've never met a single, you know, of my friends who have anything positive to say about white people.
But don't worry, there's lots of people who have positive, you know, I just, let's not pretend that your empirical data doesn't exist.
I'm very, very optimistic.
So I'm hoping that's the case.
So like, even if I might be wrong, I'm really, really, really, really, really, really hoping that's the case.
Well, look, I'll tell you what, conversations like this, Conversations like this are going to create more people who can have conversations like this.
Seriously, the good that we're doing to the world by having conversations like this is immeasurable.
So we will hopefully have people.
Now, you kept saying when you get invited to white people's houses, how often have your friends invited white people to their houses?
I don't really know that often.
It's usually within their own circles unless they know Someone who's been like their own friend for a while, like for example from high school or middle school or whatever.
But it's usually like them going over their house because like sometimes there's like this like shame and like how they feel about their own home compared to like the white person's home.
So it's like, it goes back to the whole like stigma of like, oh, they're doing better than us.
So like we got to put them down kind of thing.
Right.
Okay.
So let's get to what I think I understand and then you can tell me if this makes any sense.
I'm going to assume, Edward, that you did pretty well in school and you're doing well in life.
Yeah.
Your parents are smart?
They're not the best.
They didn't really graduate high school.
They're smart.
I didn't ask whether they were government educated.
That's not the question.
They're together.
They have a decent relationship.
They work.
They're doing the right stuff.
Yeah, my parents, like, they've gone through their thing, but they've always stuck together, and they've always said that the reason why they keep together is because of us, like, me and my brother and sister.
Like, they've always, like, stood up for us.
Right.
And you did well in school, and you're doing reasonably well in life, right?
Yeah.
Basically, the way I say it, I constantly have to learn new things.
I can't just sit and stagnate.
I have to learn new technologies, especially with me being in the IT career.
It's always a constant new thing for me.
When I see others who just play video games and all these things, it's such a wasted amount of time.
I don't understand.
With regards to your Hispanic friends, how often do you have conversations of depth or meaning or self-knowledge or even current events that are not just shallow resentment stuff?
I mean, deeper conversations.
Not often at all.
I have more deeper conversations with my white friends and my Asian friends.
So when you say not very often at all, Meaning like I would post something?
They would talk about it?
No, no, no.
Conversations in your life with your Hispanic peers.
Yeah, basically it would just be something related to what I said.
And then they'd kind of just shrug me off like, oh, that's stupid.
Or, oh, you're just selfish.
You should vote for this.
Or you should do that.
Oh, that's just selfish.
So we're talking zero?
Yeah.
No, just because you say, well, not very often, not that much, either weekly or yearly, every fourth blue moon when the heron is outlined against Mr. Saucerhead.
I mean, is it zero?
I mean, it just doesn't happen with your Hispanic friends?
I don't, yeah, it's more about the entertainment and things like that.
It's not really about politics.
Everybody kind of shies away from politics.
They don't really want to talk about it.
They don't want to talk about social Problems or ideals or anything like that.
It's just like entertainment, drugs and booze and women.
I think I get that from the soap operas, so all right.
Okay, do you know the average IQ in Mexico?
No, I don't know.
Do you want to take a guess?
I'm around like mid-70s, maybe low 80s?
88.
Oh, okay.
So that's, you know, 88, right?
So that's not hugely great.
And this is one of the reasons why Mexico has trouble establishing any kind of representative democracy and why corruption is so high and violence is so high, because the sweet spot for criminality is around 85.
Doesn't mean, of course, right, blah, blah, blah, we don't have to put all these caveats in because we're dealing with a smart audience.
Now, the average IQ, of course, among white people is 100.
You're a smart guy.
So I would imagine that you're white friends are above average in terms of IQ, because you sound to me way above 100 for, you know, I don't, I'm not an expert, just a rule of thumb, right?
So this, if I sort of point this out, right, there's the average IQ is 88.
Does it make any sense about some of the stuff we've been talking about with regards to the differences between your Hispanic friends and your white friends?
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
In the conversations, in the dialogue, in the vocabulary, it's so blatant, the difference.
You cannot avoid that difference.
Right.
Now, this is what is really annoying about white people.
One of the many things that is annoying about white people is because the IQ stuff isn't known.
Because the IQ stuff isn't known.
And look, I'm no expert in this, but my understanding is basically a bunch of Westerners had sex with a bunch of people who were indigenous to Central and South America and produced mestizos or, you know, the sort of half and half or whatever, right?
So what is really frustrating for people, for groups as a whole, is looking at white people and not understanding why white people tend to be more successful.
Because the IQ stuff just isn't really talked about.
I mean, in fact, it's actively suppressed.
as a whole, which to me is tragic.
It's incredibly tragic.
I think that groups of similar IQs can get along fine.
I think groups with disparate IQs can get along fine as long as people at least understand to some degree the fact that there's an IQ difference.
In aggregate, right?
Not regarding individuals or whatever, right?
And so what happens is, you know, blacks and Hispanics and gypsies, low IQ there too, they look at white people and they say, what the hell?
They have stuff and we don't.
They have pools and we gotta jimmy open a fire hydrant.
They have nice stuff, we have crap stuff.
They have peaceful communities, we have violent communities.
They have stable families, we not so much.
They do well in school, we not so much.
They have patents, we not so much.
They go to college, we not so much.
Without the understanding of it, I mean, at least there's other stuff, at least the IQ differences.
Yes, there's cultural differences, and yes, there may be testosterone level differences between whites and Asians and blacks and so on.
But without at least understanding that, It's an incredibly frustrating thing, because it's like, if I think I'm as tall as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and I'm as equally good a player, but I can't ever get on a basketball team, I'm gonna get really, really frustrated, and angry, enraged!
I'm just as good a player, I'm just as tall, I'm just as fast, I'm just as experienced, nobody will hire me.
That is an incredibly frustrating and enraging situation to be in.
And it allows, of course, people to externalize all the problems to white racism.
Right?
Because if all the Hispanic basketball players are as tall and as fast and there's all the black basketball players, but nobody will hire them, it can only be because of anti-Hispanic basketball association prejudice, right?
And rather than saying, We're starting with an IQ difference.
Let's figure out what we can do to close it.
Let's figure out better parenting methods.
Let's figure out not spanking.
Let's figure out longer breastfeeding.
Maybe we can figure out if there's genetics.
There's almost certainly genetics involved.
Maybe we can figure out some genetic solutions to this so we can begin to bring IQs closer together.
We have to first recognize that there's a problem in order to solve it.
But this denial of this la la la la, stick your fingers in your ears, forget about anything, pretend there's no genetic differences, there's no cultural differences, there's no brain differences, there's no IQ differences, is a recipe for genuine civilization-shaking disasters.
Because blacks and Hispanics and gypsies are looking at whites, and I guess Asians too, and saying, why not me?
Why not us?
Why can't we get and have what they have?
They're keeping it from us.
They owe us!
They destroyed our ancestors, they enslaved our people, they stole our resources and I want California back!
Not when it's a socialist country you don't, but right Without this basic understanding that there are differences between ethnicities that we must first acknowledge and then work as best as we can to close those gaps using all of the incredible resources we have in the world.
The scientific resources, the cultural resources, the parenting resources, the biological resources.
We need to understand that this is a big problem We're all not going back to our corners.
We're not going to end up with entirely different planets to live on.
We've all got to find some way to live together, but without acknowledging these differences and working to bring them closer together.
This rage, this frustration, this anti-white racism, this hostility, this sense of entitlement, this bigotry, when's it going to stop?
How's it going to stop?
Biology ain't changing.
It's only going to escalate.
It's only going to get worse until the facts come out and we can all put our heads together and work to try and solve this problem.
But screaming racism, resentment, and hatred for white people, it's not going to end well.
We all know that, right?
Is there any way to actually have these things work together?
Or is that just so far away from the reality?
Well, see, I don't know, but I know for a fact that if the problem isn't even acknowledged, there will be no solution other than ever-escalating conflict.
Do I know whether race IQ differences can be solved?
I have an incredible amount of optimism.
That it can be.
But it first must be acknowledged.
Yeah, that's correct.
It first must be acknowledged.
The combined, like if we were to acknowledge this issue, and we were to put the combined resources of five continents and the geniuses that are in there to work on trying to solve this problem, I'm pretty sure a lot could be done.
A lot could be done.
And let's say, let's say we can't solve the problem.
I mean, some of it can be solved because some of IQ is environmental.
It's to do with how you're parented.
It's to do with breastfeeding and spanking and all the other things that we've talked about with the experts.
So some of it can certainly be improved.
If you can get the average IQ of Mexicans from 88 to 95, damn, wouldn't that be great?
That would ease tensions an enormous amount because then the discrepancy between the two groups would be vastly diminished, right?
So let's just say, and look, I have no idea, but I don't think that's a wildly unrealistic goal.
I mean, the black-white IQ gap narrowed in the 60s and early 70s.
as the result of a variety of factors and the black community still has a long way to go in terms of not spanking and breastfeeding and all the other stuff which I've talked about for years because I really really want to help race relations but I'm not going to do it by pretending white people are always to blame and there's no such thing as biology there's no such thing as evolution and there's no such thing as disparate outcomes for groups in wildly disparate environments.
So black and white IQ gap has closed a little bit.
Can we do something with the Hispanic?
Yes!
Yes, of course we can!
Of course we can!
Now, can we get it to parity?
I don't know.
But damn, if we can get it halfway to parity, that's so much better.
Wouldn't it be?
I mean, wouldn't it just be fantastic if we could do that?
Now, if there's more that can be done, like a generation of intensive gene research to figure out what particular triggers there may be, for growing the brain size for growing the number of white neural connections for the white matter in the brain.
I think that would be an incredible and powerful and incredibly positive project for human beings to embark upon.
I can't even tell you how much money I would give into that research.
I'd like live in a hut and and I would I would do my podcast on a TRS-80 In order to be able to... I mean, if that research gets moving, there's nothing that I wouldn't do to get behind that.
To work, to solve things in a genuine, practical way.
Right now, we have differences between the races that is ascribed to magical racism on the part of white people in the same way that epilepsy in the past was ascribed to demonic possession.
It is that superstitious and that primitive.
We've got this weird White people hate everyone who just happens to be less intelligent than white people because, whatever, Asians don't exist!
We have this weird, magical, stupid non-answer that is only stoking resentment on every single conceivable side of the racial gap.
White racism is responsible for every single disparity in the known universe.
Oh, and sexism for women, even though women work less hard than men.
The wage gap between men and women is a complete fiction.
No serious economist thinks about it in any realistic way.
Ignore it.
It's ridiculous.
Nobody believes it except feminists.
But IQ gaps need to be acknowledged.
We need to put the resources in to figure out what's going on, what can be improved environmentally, what can be improved genetically.
And only then can we really begin to start to live in peace with each other so that you don't have all of your friends hating white people and you don't have white people hating themselves and pushing down all that resentment and anger until I don't even want to know what might happen after that.
White people are nice until they're not and then they're really really not and we don't want to get there.
So the fact that we can have these kinds of conversations and the fact like so when I said like I understand why your friends are resentful towards white people.
Because we look like we're hoarding stuff.
We look like we're keeping everyone else out of the party.
We're excluding everyone.
We've got this great free market party going on, but we're not going to share with you Hispanics and we're not going to share with the blacks.
We totally share with the Jews and the Asians because Jews and Asians have higher IQs, but let's not talk about that.
So it sounds like we're having this great party.
We got all the Victoria's Secrets models and Kanye is playing live and Emily Ratajkowski is topless in the pool and I don't know, some Kardashian has given birth to some multicolored baby.
Right?
So we've got this great party going on.
It's the best party in the known universe.
But you're not invited, people.
Of course, that's annoying as hell.
And because people don't know why all of this is happening, which is around IQ, and disparities between ethnicities because people don't know why this is happening.
They have no choice but to indulge in bottomless rage and bottomless appeasement and that can't be sustained.
What's going to happen Edward?
What is going to happen?
I fear for my...
When America runs out of money.
This is like full-on crime and just violence.
Basically Venezuela.
That's exactly what we're looking at.
We're looking at Venezuela in our future.
Yeah.
Or South Africa.
I think a lot of this, like you talk a lot about
Parenting and raising kids and children and all these things and I think a lot of it roots from that like all these like all this hate and all this like like resentment is it comes a lot from like the way these people are being raised like the way people around me are being raised like it's it's just it's like there's like no care for like the child like the child just like lives on his own and then like until they're old enough and then they're like like they could like leave for all they care.
And the children of certain minority groups, not all, but children are often raised with this idea, well, remember, white people hate you.
Yeah, that's... That's like... Like, literally, like, that's not even, like, that far from, like, the truth.
They look down on you.
They feel superior to you.
They don't like you.
They think your food smells bad.
They hate your music.
They don't like the fact that you can dance better.
They just dislike you all around.
Now, go into a white society and succeed.
Off you go.
Like, literally, like, that's not even, like, that far from, like, the truth.
Like, it's so – I know!
Like, I've had – basically, I've been looking for purchasing a home.
And a friend of mine who's black told me, hey, like, you're not really going to find a good home because it's rigged against blacks They're not going to give you the loan you want or this.
They're going to give you really high rates and all this other crazy stuff.
That stuff is literally given to people as advice.
Oh, from day one?
Yeah.
Black people say, we have to beat our kids so that they're frightened of white people.
I mean, some, right?
And the reality is, of course, that the housing crash, which was disastrous for minorities as well as whites, was because there were too many loans given to people who couldn't afford them, a lot of whom were blacks and Hispanics.
And black-owned banks give fewer loans to black people than white-owned banks.
It's not racism.
Bankers are pretty good at counting and lobbying.
I also think the only color that really matters is green.
You got the money, you got the credit, you got the job.
It doesn't matter what race you are.
There's so deep in it.
There's a weird bubble where it's just us versus them.
I'm a huge fan of Queen, right?
And what the hell did I know?
I mean, when I was a kid, I never thought about race.
I had black friends.
I had Asian friends.
I had an Indian guy named Stephen I used to hang out with.
Went to his place for the weekends all the time.
Never thought about it.
I didn't care.
Didn't care.
Love to have continued that way.
That's just not the way life goes.
goes.
But anyway, I totally lost my thought. - Totally!
Wow, that's rare!
Sorry, the train jumped the tracks!
We've gone AWOL!
I was going stepping forward!
No, I remember that!
Oh, uh, the conversation about- Oh, it's gonna be good too!
Oh no!
Come back, thought!
About us, uh, about, like, basically, like, uh, racism being taught to kill children from, like, the start.
Steph, clearly your thought was afraid of being called racist, so- Yeah, that's it.
Son of a bitch.
You know what?
Three o'clock in the morning, I'm going to wake up and call you, Edward.
Is that okay?
Because I'm going to remember.
Wake up, three o'clock in the morning.
We'll just finish that part and we'll splice it into the show.
I hope you don't mind.
Yeah, that's fine.
Good.
Yeah, I'm a big fan.
I honestly want to thank you so much for all these honest conversations you've had.
All the facts.
Like, you're, like, one of very few people who actually links the articles and conversations that you're actually talking about, and whenever someone comes up to me, like, oh, well, what the hell is he talking about?
Like, it's, like, right there in your comments.
Like, just look it up.
It's right there.
Like, you don't even have to do all the hard work, because he's already done it for you.
And it's such a fresh breath of air, like, to just finally have someone who's, like, trying to, like, really get these facts out there, and whatever, like, Basically, I really, really wanted to do this conversation and I was... I really... What's the word?
What's the word?
Anticipating?
Looking forward to?
Excited about?
Like... Anxiety.
I had a lot of anxiety.
What if someone heard this?
What if someone thinks about this?
What would they think about me?
What are they going to say about me?
Because it's going to happen.
People are going to find out, and they're going to see it, and they're going to be like, oh, this guy thought about this the whole time.
And then it's just like, yeah, we have to talk about this.
I have to come on here and talk to you about this, because I don't see a lot of people really talking about this.
And I'm really happy to contribute to this, because there's a lot of, I'm hoping there's more people like me that just sees the bullshit for what it is.
Yeah, and look, Edward, I mean, I think everyone's going to get, I mean, there'll always be haters, right?
I mean, who cares, right?
They're inconsequential in the general scheme of things.
But you and I are both coming from a very honest and positive place.
I want race relations to get better.
I want everyone to get along better.
And I think that's why, you know, I can get away with this stuff, because it really does come from a very positive and loving place for me, recognizing that we are in these societies together.
Right now, shit ain't working and there's better ways for things to work.
We have to start acknowledging reality and working together to transfer some of the better practices from every culture.
And I think the fact that it's coming from a positive place for both of us is what will shield us.
from you know just people all racism what I think of course like I I care about the black community getting better which is why I won't lie to black people you know I mean lying to black people is so racist I want the Hispanic community to be happier and to do better to do to do fantastically
So, I'm not going to lie to the Hispanic community, because that would be, oh, well, the poor black and Hispanic community, well, they can't handle any truth, so I'm just going to pat them on the head and say, oh, it's nothing you're doing, it's nothing that's nature, it's just, you know, white racism, so I'm going to take away all your agency, I'm going to take away all your responsibility, I'm going to take the whole burden on myself, like Jesus H. Christ himself, and I'm going to go crucify myself on the liberal media so that you... I mean, that would be so racist.
Hispanic people can handle the truth.
Black people can handle the truth.
What society can't handle is people being lied to, especially when those lies generate exactly the kind of hate that people say they're trying to prevent.
It's so ironic that they're creating exactly what they don't want.
It just blows my mind that they can't see that.
Well, I mean, the leftists all want Hispanics and blacks to be dependent on the states.
Guaranteed votes.
I mean, that's tragic.
Anyway, listen, is it all right if I move on to the next caller?
We had a good old swing at a very challenging issue.
I just wanted to tell you, great conversation, man.
You are welcome back any time.
I appreciate you breaking ranks.
I appreciate you giving me the secret password to the Hispanic Club of Anti-White Hatred.
I really appreciate you, because you're being very frank and honest, and that's where we all need to start when we have these conversations.
I really, really appreciate you calling in.
Yeah, no problem.
It's just one of those things I like.
I can't just be silent about it.
I gotta talk about it.
And I hope a lot more Hispanic and Latinos come out and talk about this too because I've seen people from the black community come out and talk about it.
So I'm hoping that there's more people in all kinds of racial backgrounds that come out and talk about how they can improve and getting rid of these stigmas in their own culture.
I really appreciate all these conversations with you, and you're doing an awesome job, and I hope that things go in the right direction soon.
Oh, we're working on it, man.
So I just wanted to mention, because of course this is something that comes up a lot, and this idea that Trump was saying that all Mexicans are rapists, I mean, the man hires thousands and thousands of Mexicans Of course.
I mean, of course.
He's in the construction business, people.
He knows some Mexicans.
He's not hiring thousands of rapists.
What he was talking about was he was saying that when Mexico sends its people.
Now, there are pamphlets that have been around in the sort of early to mid 2000s, which were pamphlets about how to cross the border into America put out by the Mexican government.
So he's aware of that.
Not a lot of people are.
We're actually going to have that come out as a show.
When he's talking about people being rapists, what he's talking about is an immigration study.
According to Directors of Migrant Shelters, a quote, staggering 80% of Central American girls and women crossing Mexico en route to the United States are raped along the way.
Now 80%, it's probably higher.
That's high, no matter what.
And that's what he was referring to.
Amnesty International.
Previously put the number at 60% and they said women and girl migrants especially those without legal status traveling in remote areas or on trains are at heightened risk of sexual violence at the hands of criminal gangs, people traffickers, other migrants or corrupt officials.
That's from a 2010 Amnesty International report.
So he wasn't saying all Mexicans are rapists.
He was saying that there is a lot of rapists operating around the border and if you don't think 80% is a lot You need to think again.
So thanks again, Edward.
You're welcome back anytime.
Appreciate the conversation.
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