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July 13, 2019 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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Surviving The Horrific Violence In South Africa
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Peter wrote in and said, I am from Marxist-slash-Communist-slash-Socialist South Africa.
I'm working very hard to try and immigrate to another country, but at the current rate, it will probably take me another four or five years.
How do I stay motivated and positive when I am surrounded by extreme violence and a high crime rate, never knowing when I might be next?
That's from Peter, who may be our first caller from South Africa.
Ever, so.
Welcome to the show, Peter.
How are you?
I'm well, how are you doing, man?
Good, good, thank you.
Now, are you white in South Africa?
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay, okay, I just wanted to check that.
I don't, I mean, you may check your back pocket or sometimes it's in your, like, the blazer that you have.
There's a little, it's a white privilege card.
It's a Pillsbury Doughboy coated in gold, or sometimes it's a Michelin Man with diamonds encrusted.
So if you check your white privilege card, then wherever you go, life is wonderful.
The seas part before you, women throw their clothes off and hurl themselves at your feet, and no one ever ever says anything bad to you or ever accuses you of having white privilege.
That's how powerful white privilege is.
So maybe you've mislaid your card, And if you have mislaid your card, you just apply to whiteprivilegehistory.com and they will send you a new one, assuming that you can submit proof of the fact that you are white, which of course is a terrifying desire to oppress everyone.
You know, I mean, most people who aren't white get up in the morning and they, you know, they want to take care of their kids.
You know, maybe they want to clean out the eaves trough in their house.
Maybe they got to take their car in for repairs.
Of course, white people, we don't do that at all, particularly white males.
All we do is we wake up and you know, maybe our wife has given us a list.
You know, go get some groceries and pay the tax bills at the bank or whatever it is.
And we basically eat that list.
And we take out our other list, which is our everyday list, which is before I even eat breakfast, I simply have to oppress minorities.
And that's the only reason I get out of bed.
I got nothing else to do I mean white people of course not overly burdened with employment or higher taxes than the average and so we just you know as you know you know secret handshake white male to white male we simply wake up and we spend the morning of course finding ways to repress and cripple minority aspirations And then in the afternoon, we switch to women, right?
We go from minorities, oppressing minorities, to oppressing women.
And then we don't have to have jobs, because apparently that pays a lot to oppress people.
And then we just wish that we had the empire back, because that was so much fun.
Colonialism was just nothing but kettles and roses and foot rubs from other people.
That would be my suggestion.
Instead of trying to go someplace, just remember how incredibly privileged you are, how incredibly powerful you are, and enjoy that.
Does that help at all?
Yeah, sure.
I'll head off to the Lost and Found right now and check my card maybe is there.
All right.
All right.
Well, the next caller on the show today is … And remember, anytime a white person such as myself is called a cracker online, remember that it's a big media story.
Because we have so much power as white males that the media constantly does their bidding and always protects us from any criticism.
And the only time the race card is ever played is, well, he's white and he's a male, so he's got to be right.
He's got to be correct.
Anytime there's kind of any problems between a white male and Any other race, the white male is automatically assumed to be in the right, and the other race is always assumed to be, you know, lying or manipulative or racist or playing the victim card.
And so, you know, we just, you just remember that, that you get to float above all human conflicts, knowing that the media will always portray you as being in the right, because that's really what privilege is all about.
So just enjoy that sweet, sweet fruit.
All right, enough of that silliness.
So how are things?
I spent a little bit of time in South Africa when I was young and then again when I was a teenager like a couple of months each time and so I'm scarcely an expert.
We've toyed around doing the truth about South Africa because when I was, let me just do this real brief and then I'll shut up, but when I was younger of course the apartheid was the big issue and I remember getting into ferocious debates with people even as a teenager Especially after I've been to Africa, South Africa in particular, saying, you know, yeah, it's not that simple.
You know, if, you know, of course, one race should not rule over another race, no question of that.
But these transitions, it's not just as simple as, well, get rid of the white people, get rid of apartheid, and paradise.
It just, it's not, that's not how it's going to work.
And if you really care for the blacks in South Africa, First of all you have to recognize that most of the blacks in Africa were dying to get into South Africa.
In fact they would even go through the sort of protected areas with the wildlife and risk literally being eaten by lions and so on.
To try and get into South Africa was considered to be one of the best things.
So blacks loved South Africa even though everyone who wasn't there or had not visited and so on thought it was just horrible and racist.
It's sort of like America, although of course America doesn't have any kind of apartheid, but insofar as Everyone says it's a horrible racist country and everybody wants to get in there.
The same thing was true in a lot of ways for South Africa.
And so everybody said, well, you know, basically let's get rid of apartheid and then everything's going to be fantastic when blacks get self-rule.
And those of us who know a little bit about history and sort of previous experience with colonized people being handed control of their own government, it's not as simple as, well, you know, The bad whites have gone away and now Garden of Eden, right?
So what's your experience been of that?
Well, you know, I mean, I've lived pretty much my whole life in South Africa, have traveled a bit to other countries.
So, you know, I've been to New Zealand, you know, it's been there and yeah, once you go to a first world country and you come back and you're like, yeah, it's pretty bad, yeah.
Just looking at, if I can just give you some quick statistics.
Oh, please.
It doesn't have to be quick.
Take your time.
If I just start with something basic, living conditions.
I'm not, you have to go hunt for food and scavenge, nothing like that.
But I mean if you take for instance just like your salary, my current salary is equivalent to 830 US dollars for a month's work.
Sorry, was that 830?
830, yes.
So then I mean you do a minimum of two... Well, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Could it just be not that wages in South Africa are low, but that you're really terrible at your job?
I'm just putting it out there as a possibility.
Yeah.
Look, I mean, wages in South Africa are pretty low.
But, you know, I mean, this is the highest paying job I can get.
I'm currently working as an armed response officer.
What now?
Armed response officer.
Basically, you're given a gun, a bulletproof car, and yeah, go make sure Yeah.
Oh, like a ninja well-armed security guard.
I don't mean to diminish... Yeah, yeah.
Okay, is that like you're a private security force?
Is that right?
Private security, yes.
Okay, got it.
And before that I worked as a medic, you know, so I've got a quite a good reality on, you know, what's going on out there.
You know, I've seen a lot of things firsthand, you know, I mean, and this is the best paying job I can get currently.
I'm currently working on a degree to broaden my horizons, but that's going to take another four or five years because I'm doing it part-time.
So the best paying job that you can get is basically the shadow cast by, I think what would fairly be appropriately said, to be insanely high crime rates, is that right?
Yes, yes.
You know, from that $830 equivalent, if I can put it that way, you know, you have to pay your house, your electricity costs are like, gonna cost you about $100, $120, you know, equivalent to rent.
So electricity is pretty expensive, food is pretty expensive, you know, so you really gotta, Each month, you know, just get by.
So that's quite a frustration.
You never get to the point where you can just say, OK, I'm really making progress now.
You know, I mean, so I think I remember back then when you did a thing about Nelson Mandela, you mentioned that, yeah, the average income, you know, got decreased by, I think, like what, 40 percent?
What?
since the new government came into power.
So, yeah, I mean, that's really starting to show.
You know, I mean, another thing that really bothers me, you know, is the murder rate, you know.
Just from 2004 to 2014, there's been approximately 200,000 murders.
What?
200,000.
And that's not me making… 200,000 murders in 11 years.
yes well Well, that's up to the end of last year.
That's not including this year.
And that's just from 2000.
200,000 murders?
Yes.
That's not my numbers.
No, no, I'm not doubting you.
I knew it was high.
Yeah, I mean, if you look back since 1994 when the new government came into power, It's easily, easily near half a million people that has been murdered.
Do you know what the rate was under de Klerk and apartheid?
I haven't actually got those statistics, but I know it was much, much lower.
Maybe Mike, if you're listening in, if you could... He's always eavesdropping.
I don't know what's going on.
Mike, if you could just have a look at those, if you're listening in the keyhole.
Yeah, I mean, that's astounding.
So since 94, since the end of apartheid, is that right?
Half a million murders.
And rapes as well, I know.
I was reading a statistic that said the average African woman is more likely to be raped than learn how to read.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I checked those statistics from 2004 as well up until end of last year.
That's like about 730,000 sexual assaults.
Attempted murders, you know, Just over 210,000 burglaries in the past 10-11 years has been 3.6 million.
I mean, and there's no, I can't imagine any conceivable way that a justice system can operate with that volume of crime.
I mean, they hear about another, like another 10 murders come in before lunch.
I mean, what are they going to do?
Chase everyone down?
I mean, once a certain amount of crime exists within a society, you can't do anything about it, right?
It's like, you can surf a wave, you can't surf a tsunami.
Yes, yes.
And the thing is, you know, arresting these people is one thing, and then you get to the justice system, you know, where you arrest people and just literally A few days later, they're out walking the streets again.
I mean, I remember a couple of times, you know, where I've arrested people that broke in, and so you catch the perpetrator, and just like, wait an hour, police never shows up, and eventually, you have to let the guy go.
Or you catch the guy, and then literally two, three days later, he's walking the streets again.
You know, and that's pretty frustrating.
Right.
What sort of security measures are people taking?
I mean, I was reading about how if you rent a car in South Africa, it's very dangerous and they have a lot of anti-theft measures in place.
I mean, they're promoting a lot of vehicle tracking and so on.
If your cars get stolen, they can track the car.
You know, there's a lot of things, but your home is literally becoming a literal prison, trying to keep everybody out.
I mean, you've got spike fencing everywhere, and I mean, you've got electric fences, you've got steel bars over all the windows, you know, so I mean, there's a lot of You know, different measures everybody is trying to take, you know, to protect themselves and their property.
And at the same time as well, you know, government is trying to bring more and more gun control into the country.
Yeah, as if that's really going to help solve the crime problem.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
And so is there is there corruption in the.
You said the court system is problematic.
Is it because of corruption, or just they're overwhelmed, or what's the story?
Oh, it's purely of corruption.
The government's doing as they please, left, right and center.
The thing is that they're spending money like they Yeah, they're spending money left, right and center as if, you know, as if the country can afford it.
And, you know, I mean, personally I think that, you know, the country's on the verge of bankruptcy because, you know, the government's starting selling off gold and assets.
I think recently the government sold off nine billion rand worth of gold to Iran.
I'm not quite sure how much it is in US dollars, but yeah, it's quite a lot of money.
Right.
I'm going to just give a few more stats, if that's all right with you.
No, no, go ahead.
So, low interest rates environments known for causing inflating credit and asset bubbles, and this is what over the last 10 years has sort of happened in South Africa.
It's experienced two low interest rate periods in the last 10 years from 2004 to 2006 and the post-crisis period after 2008.
Rapid credit growth and that's far exceeded the rate of economic growth.
So South Africa's real GDP grew by 38% in the past decade but private sector loans surged by approximately 225%.
Since 2008 South Africa's real GDP grew by 12.7% while private sector loans have increased by nearly 45%.
The M3 money supply, a broad measure of total money and credit in the economy, has had a 400% increase since 2004 and a 50% increase since 2008.
So they're just printing and flooding the money supply.
South Africa's total outstanding external debt or debt owed to foreign creditors increased by 250% over the past 10 years.
and nearly 87% since 2008.
From May 2015, unemployment in South Africa hit a 10-year high as power outages, drought, and widespread pessimism dragged down growth in the long beleaguered economy.
South Africa's unemployment rate climbed to 26.4% as the economy expanded just 1.3% in the first three months of 2015.
Compared with 24.3% unemployment and 4.1% growth rate in the last quarter of 2014.
You were talking about electricity, of course.
Widespread blackouts have obliged mines and factories to curb output since last year.
Many neighborhoods also lose power several nights each week now.
Darkened traffic lights snarl traffic jams across Johannesburg and other commercial centers.
Unemployment still remains the biggest problem in South Africa according to a statistician and they've lashed out at local governments They say unfulfilling promises to deliver housing, electricity, and sanitation services to all.
More than 15,000 such demonstrations erupted last year, said the South African Institute of Race Relations, many of them violent and 100% increased since 2010, according to this Johannesburg-based think tank.
And this frustration, of course, jobless young South Africans, social unrest, uptick in violent crime.
At least seven foreigners were killed in recent weeks and thousands fled their homes after South Africans rioted.
and ransacked shops owned by Somalis, Ethiopians and Zimbabweans they say have taken up rare job opportunities.
And this of course happens in America too where they lash out.
Blacks in the ghetto will lash out sometimes at Koreans and others who have convenience stores and so on.
Welfare dependency, of course, is a huge problem.
From 2010, South Africa is the biggest welfare state in the world.
Economist Mike Schuster recently said, he said, quote, look at South Africa's dependency ratio.
It's three people to one taxpayer.
It's unsustainable.
And so, yeah, three people who are dependent on the state for every single taxpayer.
From 2014, welfare dependency, a problem across the developed world, has reached a danger level in South Africa.
More people receive aid than have jobs, and the ratio has been worsening for five years.
While the handouts have helped address abject poverty since the end of the apartheid regime, they haven't helped recipients get skills needed for jobs in a country with 24% unemployment.
The state gives the money.
Why should we doubt applying for it?
Says a woman as she adjusted the hem of her pink floral skirt over her swollen legs.
Just think how I would have gotten by with all of these children.
The government looks after them.
In all 16 and a half million people receive government benefits compared with 5.2 million working as of the fourth quarter of 2013.
Those on assistance make up 30% of the total population compared with 25% of Brazilians who are on that country's social welfare program and It is of course something you can't see this reported in the mainstream media because ever since the end of apartheid the theory of course is that South Africa now will be a wonderful paradise of opportunity for blacks and peaceful coexistence with whites just as in the former Rhodesia with the white
farmers who have been run off their land and regularly killed and far more of those white farmers have been killed than were ever killed under apartheid.
The blacks were ever killed under apartheid.
Of course you can't report on this stuff in the West because there is this I dare to say blackout on these kinds of issues because the idea that there were some stability benefits to apartheid is something that simply goes against this
Savage egalitarianism manifesto that somehow you can take a black continent and simply immediately move it into the 21st century without tribal allegiances being a problem without a lack of skills being a problem without a lack of history of ruling becoming a problem and without say 2,500 years of philosophy and Minimal government human rights and so on being part of the culture.
It's just a mad fantasy and We've seen that play out and I'm sorry that you're caught in it and it is a it is a complete mess And it's not about to get better Yeah, yeah, I mean absolutely and you know the thing is You know as you say, you know the moment
You know, the moment you start pointing out certain things that, you know, certain aspects of the apartheid era, you know, were more positive than, you know, you're a racist and this and that, you know, as you said, that's why it never gets mentioned in mainstream media.
You know, and I mean, as you mentioned, like the blackouts, you know, that's a huge frustration for me.
You know, I mean, every, literally about every second day, You've got power failures because the country can't cope with the electricity demand.
So, you know, the price of electricity is sky high.
And on top of that, you know, I mean, every second day, you know, there's two, three hours of no electricity, sometimes even four hours.
Now, you can imagine, you know, If you and if this happens during business hours, what kind of a disaster that is for a business?
Right you can and of course if you're looking to locate a business somewhere Do you do you do people really think I mean other than of course?
Mining are a lot of natural resources if you're thinking of locating a business somewhere how many people think?
Africa that's where we want to be And the thing is
You know, the thing is just that they've been building and building new power stations and so on, and it never got properly finished, and now South Africa ran to Russia and went again and bought new nuclear reactors.
I'm not actually quite sure who's going to build those reactors because recently they announced they want to fire all the white engineers from Eskom, who is our electricity service provider, and replace them with only black skilled workers.
It's actually quite funny, you know, to me.
It's okay to say, you know, oh yeah, all white people should be No, there's no question of that.
It is hard for people to understand what kind of racism white people experience.
create jobs for white people, that's suddenly racism.
No, there's no question of that, that it is hard for people to understand what kind of racism white people experience.
And it's a volatile thing to say, I get that, but nonetheless, I have to stand by what is true.
And the reason being that if a white male is a victim of racism, nobody comes to that In fact, generally, it's considered karma for, you know, endless centuries of evils of white people and so on.
And it is astounding.
It's hard to know The special kind of racism that white males are subjected to.
It's hard for people who aren't white males to understand that.
You know, if there's an altercation between a white man and a black man, the white man is almost generally considered to be racist, even if there's no proof.
Investigations are launched, lives are ruined, and all that kind of stuff.
And yet, of course, if there are explicit hate crimes, racially motivated hate crimes, About, you know, I think of this Serbian fellow, a bunch of black youths running down the street saying, let's kill Whitey.
And then they find this guy and beat him to death with hammers in front of his pregnant wife or fiance.
And it just vanishes.
It vanishes from the media.
It's simply not reported.
What's called polar bear hunting, which is where black youths will go and try and knock out whites with a single blow, which sometimes results in deaths.
This completely under underreported or not reported and this this general shield over black violence where you have I think blacks are 13% of the US population black males are like 7% or so and black youths between sort of 15 and 30 are like 2 or 3% of the population and in general they're responsible for close to 50% of the murders.
So two or 3% of the population, that's 50% of the murders.
And that, of course, is is not you can't talk about that.
And the moment that any negative black behavior is pointed out, immediately, it's white people's fault.
I mean, it's just immediately, immediately.
Oh, there's black dysfunction.
It's white people.
It's white people who are completely responsible for black dysfunction, which is incredibly disrespectful towards the black
community because I mean when you take away people's capacity to affect their own lives for the better you know I fail to see how me living my life doing my show and and raising my daughter and and and all that I simply fail to see how that causes some black youth in Chicago to shoot some other black youth like I somebody can tie that to me together in anything that isn't just magical thinking or evil sorcery thinking I'd be fascinated to hear it but it is so disrespectful there's a great argument.
James Flynn, who's been on the show and Charles Murray debated this recently, I guess not that recently, a couple years ago now.
But there's a study and I'm quoting this off my sort of memory.
So it's probably off base.
But Tom Sowell, the black economist talks about it.
And he says, in the in the post war, period, a post Second World War.
So I think it was post Second World War.
period black military service members in the US Army sometimes they fell in love with and married German women and you know the big challenge I don't know what the numbers are in South Africa for IQ testing and again it's not the be-all and end-all but it's not unimportant we're going to talk to a guy later in the show about IQ but in America right African-American IQ is a standard deviation on average
below that of whites just as whites is below that of Asians and whites and Asians are generally at least in the verbal component below that of Ashkenazi Jews and so on and in Sub-Saharan Africa I've heard studies of 70 to 75 which is I mean I don't know how you can they've got to find a way to raise that to have a really well-functioning society and you know as I've talked about a lot on this show breastfeeding peaceful parenting no corporal punishment no spanking and so on
But Tom Sowell says in a study of the offspring of the black American GIs and the white German women it showed that the children of the black fathers and the white mothers normally in America they fall halfway between 85 and 100 so the half of standard deviation below.
And some people say, well, that's a genetic argument.
And the counter to that, again, I'm certainly no expert on these.
I'm simply putting forward the information, but the counter to that is, as Tom Sowell points out, he says, sorry, I say Tom Sowell, like, you know, he's just come over for tea.
Dr. Thomas Sowell, as he points out, he says that, um, why would these, these half black, half white kids in Germany and the post-war period had an IQ test had tested IQ, that was the same as whites.
Virtually, like a point or two or three, whatever, but virtually the same as whites.
And he says, well, the reason for that is very simple, that they were not exposed to toxic black culture in America.
And, you know, the sort of the anti-intellectualism, the aggressive anti-educationalism, the, oh, you're acting white if you want to get ahead, you know, the rapid.
And this is not really going on in the post-war period, but he's saying that there's a toxic element.
Because, you know, you could say, oh, well, America is a racist society or whatever, and it's just become a mantra.
But are you saying that?
I mean, then people would have to say that Germany in like the late 1940s was not a racist society at all.
I think given that they voted for Hitler and fought a whole basic race war in some ways it'll be a little tough to maintain that and I think it's terrible and I think that this white males have become like a kind of interracial Jesus figure where you just have to take on all the sins of all cultures and all problems everything gets dumped onto the lap of white people and they call that privilege and all it does is
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debated situation.
There's a lot of numbers getting thrown around, so take this with a grain of salt, because I haven't had a chance to do complete vetting, but this is from a... Mike.
No, no, hang on, hang on.
First of all, salt is white.
Get a little pepper.
Cumin!
Cinnamon peels!
This is being quoted from Murder in South Africa, a comparison of past and present, first edition, by Rob McCaffrey, communications director from United Christian Action.
And again, I haven't totally vetted this, because this is pretty short after being asked, so take it with a grain of salt.
By the most conservative official figures provided by the SAPS during this period, the total number of murders is 377,465 for the 19-year period between 1990 and 2009.
of 1,465 for the 19-year period between 1990 and 2009.
This averages to just under 20,000 murders per year for every year.
The SAPS figures, however, are grossly underreported as evidenced by other official bodies of the South African government, such as the Home Affairs Department and the Medical Research Council, which both records causes of death separately from the politically influenced SAPS.
The real figures, according to these bodies, are roughly estimated to be between 30 to 55 percent higher.
Interpol puts the figures at sometimes up to 100 percent higher.
The total number of murders in South Africa For the period of 1990 to 2009, if using Interpol figures for five of the years, only available for the years 1995 to 1999, and then separately for 2001.
Sorry, this is about 47 million?
A population of 47 million?
2001 and the set sorry this is this is about 47 million a population of 47 million yeah right which is what one-sixth the amount of of those in in America right so So using some of this other information for the remaining 14 years, we come to a total of 528,791 murders for that period of 1990 to 2009.
Yeah.
to a total of 528,791 murders for that period of 1990 to 2009.
An average of a bit less than 30,000 murders a year.
That's shocking.
To be conservative and take a middle-of-the-road approach and put the number of murders for the period at 453,128.
between the two figures, equating to almost 24,000 murders per year every year for 19 years in a row.
Again, I can't 100% say this is true, but I knew it was bad, but even if it's in the realm of this, holy crap.
Holy crap.
Now, I happen to believe that black lives do matter.
I think white lives matter.
I think everyone's lives matter.
And the fact that you've got 400,000 blacks murdered as the result of A variety of things that may have happened after the end of apartheid, that matters.
Those are 400,000 people who wanted to live.
Those are 400,000 people who could have contributed to the world.
Those are 400,000 people who were surrounded by people who had to bury them and mourn them.
That's 400,000 holes in the economic fabric of South Africa and that is a lot of dead people.
I'm just still mortified and in shock reading these numbers.
And where are the activists now?
Keep in mind, that's only the murder rate.
That's not even the death count of people that died on South African roads.
We've got a pretty horrific amount of accidents here in South Africa.
I know, I've seen a lot.
So, if you don't get murdered, you're probably going to die just driving to work or whatever.
Mike, can we get a death count on South African roads?
What is the healthcare system like at the moment?
I assume, of course, that there is this massive problem of AIDS and HIV, but what is the healthcare system like for you?
If I answer this question, people will think I'm probably exaggerating, but as I mentioned, you know, I've been a medic for like four and a half years before my, you know, this current job that I had, and I can count on many times that, you know, I've went into government-operated hospitals where you literally find people lying dead there that they just never received any care.
And eventually died.
And the nurses don't even know that the person's dead.
So the health care is pretty horrific.
Obviously, if you've got lots of money and you can afford private health care, that's a different story.
But if you're forced to go to a government hospital, you're pretty much at their mercy.
Right.
420,000 additional murders after the end of apartheid.
I got some road stats.
This is from The Economist, so I trust that it's accurate.
Some of the world's most dangerous roads are in South Africa.
Last month, this is in 2011, 43 people a day for a population of 50 million were killed in traffic accidents.
My God, that's like scooters in Sao Paulo.
When I was there for a speech, I think it was one a day.
But 43 people a day die on the South African roads?
Though it still has less than one registered vehicle for every five inhabitants, Africa's most advanced country recorded 33 road deaths per 100,000 inhabitants in 2007, according to the World Health Organization, which is double the fatality rate of the U.S., which is double the fatality rate of the U.S., who has a lot more...
Well, double the fatality rate of the U.S., but the U.S., is like guns, cars, people, I think in terms of population, right?
Yeah, the U.S.
has almost one vehicle for every inhabitant versus the one in five for South Africa and... Wait a second, so in America there are 300 million cars, in Africa One in five, so there are eight million cars.
So 300 million cars in America, eight or nine million cars in South Africa, but South Africa has double the vehicular manslaughter rate.
Is that right?
Yeah, and it's six times the rate as in Britain.
So it's... Well, and in Britain they drive on the wrong side of the road, and that of course is a carnage, right?
Because it's wrong.
I know, Peter, you called in for some motivational pep.
What?
We're just – Tunnel, bury, build a bunker.
We're going to be statistics, but wow.
I didn't know that it was as bad as it sounds like it is in South Africa.
Yeah, and the thing is, you know, for people who think that this is completely exaggerated or anything like that, I can guarantee it's not – you know, I spent 12 hours a day on the road, and man, I've had some pretty close calls.
I can tell you, people just completely have no regard for traffic laws whatsoever.
I remember the days when running a red light was a big, big no-no.
You got into a lot of trouble.
Today, it's like, Every second, third person, I just drive over a red light.
It doesn't bother anyone.
What about the single fatherhood?
What's the story there?
Oh my goodness!
Let me tell you, from what I've seen, it's pretty horrific because the mentality of the African culture is pretty much the male sits back and relax, drinks his beer, watches soccer, and the mother, she's got to provide for the children.
and you know, So never mind child abuse, that's pretty rampant as well.
But, yeah, I mean, there's, I think, a single father, or single, or there's quite a lack of fathers, you know, in the black community.
And, you know, I personally think that's probably one of the main causes of all these problems that we have, you know.
The thing is, because the black community is also so violent, children get abused quite horrifically.
Obviously, if they're female, they run the risk of getting raped, even as early as babies.
You'll be quite shocked how often babies get raped in South Africa.
Babies?
Babies, I kid you not.
I know that there's a superstition that if you have AIDS, if you have sex with a virgin, somehow it's going to cure you.
Is there any superstition or fetish around sex with infants?
Yes, I think it's partly that and I think the other part is just They're completely evil human beings here, because, you know, it's like literally every, almost every day, you know, you see these things, you know, in the local newspaper, you know, maybe baby or toddlers get raped, you know, and that's, it's, you know, as if
It gets reported, but you've seen it so many times now, you just kind of get acclimated to it.
I can't imagine what kind of trauma that is for a child to grow up with as well.
I mean, astonishing, horrifying, and what that does to the culture as a whole.
I mean, it's just brutal.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You know, and I mean, we've talked about the murder and the violence, you know.
I mean, just this Thursday that passed, finished my night shift, and a 17-year-old kid got murdered for money.
And not just, like, shot or anything.
I mean, he was... I mean, that's not quite easy for me to talk about, but I mean, he was disemboweled and partially decapitated.
Disemboweled?
Yeah.
But why would you disembowel?
I mean, just kill someone for money?
Well, I don't understand the disemboweling part.
Wouldn't that slow you down?
I don't know.
That seems needlessly sadistic.
Not that the murder is not horrifying enough, of course.
I don't know.
I mean, it's just like... I don't know why anyone would go to that extreme.
It's just, I mean, completely shocking to me.
And...
I know in some of the black communities, sometimes children go missing and get chopped up for magic potions and stuff like that.
I know that's a reality.
But doing just this for money, I don't know why this... And I can't imagine a lot of money either.
Yeah, it's actually not really that much amount of money.
I think it was like 8,000 Rand, which was probably equivalent of, I don't know, something like $600 or something.
Right.
Well, given the salary, that's almost a month's salary, right?
Yeah, it's almost a month.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
What's it doing to you living in this environment, do you think?
How do you feel about it?
You wake up in the morning and the sun's coming in.
What's your thought about your day?
You know, the thing is, I honestly don't look forward to going to work Obviously, I suppose this is quite ironic, I suppose, but I obviously work in a very hazardous environment, being an armed response officer.
But, you know, at the same time, you know, I'm pretty much scared to death, you know.
I mean, it's a reality that you could be next.
I try not to focus on these things, but it keeps on mauling in the back of your head.
Of course, yeah.
As a medic, before this job, I had to declare a lot of people dead.
You never forget that.
The worst case I had was I think it was about a year or two ago on Christmas, literally where I had an entire family that just finished the Christmas meal, got into a car and gone like that, you know.
And the daughter survived, but I mean, you know, having to try and help those people, You know, and after we're telling her that, sorry, your mom and dad's dead, that just, man, that's pretty much hell on me, man.
That sucks.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I know being a medic, when I chose the occupation of being a medic, you know, I mean, you know, there's going to be emotional trauma for you.
It's, I guess, part of the job, but I mean, she's having, One death after another is just too much.
It's pretty much why I quit being a medic.
You just can't handle that anymore.
That must be a pretty high burnout rate for the occupation.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, no, definitely.
And, you know, even this job that I'm doing now, I'm doing it now for about eight months and it's pretty stressful.
I mean, you don't have a partner or anything.
It's you alone in a car, and, you know, you have to go in some pretty dodgy places, let me tell you.
And that works on me quite a lot as well.
And, you know, I'm studying part-time for my bachelor's degree, as I mentioned, and I just don't quite know exactly how I'm going to endure doing this job and studying part-time as well until I eventually have the capacity to make a move somewhere.
Why?
I don't know much about the legality of this.
Of course, my father lived in South Africa and it was very hard for him to get money out of the country to help.
And then he left when he finished his career.
What is it like to get out?
I mean, where do you want to head to?
You know, like I mentioned, I've been to New Zealand.
I've got some family there.
I've thought of actually maybe going to Japan.
I enjoy learning new cultures.
I've got quite a liking for Japanese culture.
I want to learn a new foreign language, and so on.
Not quite set yet.
Maybe I'm still deciding between New Zealand and Japan, but the problem is to immigrate.
For Japan, for instance, you cannot get a work visa without a four-year bachelor's degree.
You can have 20 years' experience and whatever.
To get a work visa, you need a bachelor's degree.
I saw the same thing with many other countries.
Can you study As a foreign student, I guess you'd need money for that, right?
But to study as a foreign student anywhere, like you've got to New Zealand to finish your degree?
Yeah, look, I mean, one nice thing, I'm doing a long distance studying program, so I can pretty much I'm just going to use an example.
I can study in New Zealand or America through the same university that I'm studying now.
So that's not a problem.
And eventually finish my degree overseas.
Obviously, I'd still need a job and money and so on.
Yeah, I mean my, you know, every day that you spend being exposed to trauma is a day at least that you have to spend decompressing and you're building up quite a deficit right here in terms of another couple of years of this difficult, dangerous and stressful environment.
It's going to be a challenge.
So my impulse would be to try and finish your education someplace more peaceful.
I mean, you've got to, I don't want to tell you your experience and I don't want to, you know, project what I sort of thought and experienced, but, um, What is the relationship between blacks and whites from your white perspective in South Africa?
I mean, how do you feel you are treated or viewed as a white person?
You know, Steph, I don't want to create a picture that all blacks are bad or anything.
That's certainly not the case, you know.
There's been cases, I've worked with a lot of black people and there's been a lot of Black people that has had a positive attitude toward me.
But I can tell you the vast majority pretty much has, and it's gotten a lot worse recently.
We just have this absolute hatred towards white people.
And they keep on saying things like all white people should be killed and they should leave the country.
And Africa is for Africans, which is actually quite ironic since they're murdering other Africans.
That's not foreign Africans as well.
But anyway.
And of course, if you can imagine someone saying that Europe is for white people or Canada and America are for white people, everybody would go insane white supremacist white nationalist and so on but black people can say that and I hear that I mean I get those comments on my videos and you know that white people should be killed white people are the devil white people have created all these problems and they've done all these terrible things and No race on earth is worse than white people and so on.
And that again doesn't fit into the generally left-wing paradigm of black victimization.
And of course there is this whole theory that blacks can't be racist because they're victims always and forever.
It is, yeah.
Pumping this amount of hatred, this amount of anti-white hatred into the world mind, in a sense, into the emotional ideological stratospheres of the human mind, pumping this amount of hatred towards whites is going to have very negative consequences.
And unfortunately, Whites will then be blamed for those negative consequences as well, but at some point people will recognize that demonizing any race is morally corrupt and vicious, and I'm sorry that you're being exposed to it, but don't let me interrupt you.
I'm sorry, but please continue.
Yeah, I mean absolutely.
I agree, and the thing is that I've absolutely got no hatred towards black people or You know, people of other races, you know.
And it's quite a sad thing to me to, you know, to see all these things going on because I know, I mean, you know, South Africa's got so much potential, you know what I mean?
It's just wasted on constant race baiting, you know what I mean?
It's just, it's just unbelievable.
And, you know, the thing is, you know, It's even like study bursaries now.
As a white student or as a white person, getting a study bursary now is very, very difficult because recently there was this whole rioting going on again about how getting a bursary should only be more for black people, not for white people.
In the beginning of your...
As you said, yeah, we just like have this white privilege that we have and unlimited amount of money, so we don't need to study bursaries or anything like that.
Right, and this is of course, this is the challenge.
I mean, if whites become a minority in their own countries, it's not like the Hispanics or the blacks or the Muslims are going to be all keen on affirmative action for whites.
Yeah, I mean, it's just not I mean, this is just a fool's game.
I mean, I think basically think whites are just being played.
And I think that whites are surrendering to feelings of guilt, which is incredibly destructive.
I think it's Shelby Steele, who's a black writer I admire enormously, just keeps pointing out that white guilt is incredibly toxic to race relations.
And There's a principle, of course, in law that you cannot inherit the debts of your fathers.
If your father runs up a visa bill, it dies with him.
And it's the same thing true with slavery and so on.
And slavery, again, it's always talked about as if, well, it's just whites who enslave black for reasons of racism.
And that's the only thing that ever happened in slavery throughout history.
Slavery, of course, was a worldwide phenomenon that was occurring Before human beings even learned to write, before there was a written language, there are depictions of slavery.
Slavery is a universally human constant that was almost single-handedly ended by white Western European culture in the 18th and 19th centuries and Because whites felt the worst about slavery and worked very hard to end it, whites then get pinned with the guilt of slavery from here to eternity.
And I mean, that's just so ridiculous and so insane.
And the idea, like somebody was talking about slavery in a comment, and I said, never happened to you, was never done by me.
So what are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
Well, they're trying to push the white guilt button.
If you push the white guilt button, white people will give you money so that you'll stop pushing the white guilt button.
But you know what happens is when you pay off people who are threatening you, That doesn't exactly stop threatening you, right?
Yeah.
It means that they'll simply keep pushing.
Oh, look, every time we push this big white guilt button, we get money and we get resources.
We get white people to do what we want.
It's the big program whitey button.
It's the white guilt button.
And people are surprised that white guilt is not leading to a healing in race relations There was a recent study in America that says most people think race relations is worse now than after the first half black half white president was elected and of course it is worse of course it is worse it's going to keep getting worse until white people start feeling guilty for things that never no white person ever did and you know I mean so far I mean statistically
It is a good case to be made that there are more black criminals now than there ever were white slave owners in the past.
Now if I were to say blacks are somehow collectively responsible for the criminal activity of some blacks, that would be completely racist, even though that's happening in the present.
But for people to say that whites are somehow collectively responsible for a tiny minority like a couple of percentage points of whites who owned slaves hundreds of years ago, That somehow is legitimate.
But if I say, well, there are more black criminals than there ever were white slave owners.
And so I get to then say, all blacks owe me for criminality in the same way that somehow, not all, but some blacks say, well, all whites owe us for slavery.
It's like, okay, then all blacks owe me for the cost of the criminality in the black community.
But that would be a wrong thing to say.
You can't judge all blacks by some proportion of criminals within the black community in the present.
And you certainly can't judge whites by a tiny proportion of white slave owners hundreds of years ago.
But until white people start feeling guilty and grow the spine that two world war seems to permanently knocked out of the culture, things are just going to keep getting worse.
And, um, I don't know any other option or alternative to that, which means you're going to have to run the gauntlet of being called a racist.
Sorry.
I mean, that's just a word that people throw at white people to get resources.
I'm sorry.
It's just the way that it works.
And if it keeps working, it's going to keep happening.
And until white people say, no, come on.
I mean, the mistake that white people have made with regards to race is guilt.
It's like it's just become this new Catholic thing that you just have to, it's the original sin is paleness and you have to pay people to not be called a racist and as long as these witch hunts and I dare say lynchings of white people occur for any potentially racist thing that happens whereas Jamie Foxx can go and give a speech at the Oscars and say hey I was in a movie called Django Unchained where I got to run around shoot all these white people isn't that the best thing ever?
I mean try making that joke if you're a film shooting black people and everyone would go insane, right?
And so as long as this guilt continues this massive amount of dysfunction between the races is only going to escalate and we just have to stop feeling guilty and stop feeling afraid and we just have to run the gauntlet of being called racist because to really care about the black community is to not to not absorb all the problems in the black community into this whiteness.
Well, you're white.
And therefore, that's why there are problems in the black community.
It's like, no, I'm not, I'm not going to soak that up.
Because I think the blacks are perfectly competent to to solve the problems in their own community.
But they're not going to as long as everyone keeps telling them and they believe that it's just whites, whites fault.
It's white.
And I mean, say, well, you know, the The black people weren't here by choice.
Yeah, that's true.
That's absolutely true.
Hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
Guess what?
Most of the white people weren't here by choice either.
They were fleeing tyrannical regimes at home.
It doesn't make it equivalent, but it's not like the black people all came over on slave ships, which in general they did, but the white people weren't taking like the love boat with Julie on the Lido deck handing out shuffleboard sticks.
I mean, they were fleeing the tyrannies of their governments at home and had pretty crappy lives.
As a result of it in many ways.
So anyway, I mean, this is a bit of a ramble, but I joined together with the black leaders who, you know, Shelby Steele and Tom Sowell and going all the way back to some of Marcus Garvey's and Booker T. Washington, that these guys who said, look, I mean, we have to treat each other as equals.
And I don't think there's any way that you could say, well, you see, White drug use must be blamed on black people because they feel bad about slavery and they're self-medicating and therefore it's black people's fault that white people use drugs.
I mean that would just be a stupid thing to say and it would then wouldn't give white people the opportunity to look in the mirror and say how can I fix it myself?
And I am, you know, I'm just relentlessly dedicated to treating races the same.
I'm relentlessly dedicated, which means, no, I'm not going to feel guilty because some white, like a tiny percentage of well-connected and rich white people owned slaves.
I mean, that's like saying, well, you see, there are a lot of Jewish bankers, therefore all Jews are responsible for the financial crash.
I mean, that would be anti-Semitism.
And the idea that, and that's in the present, right?
Hundreds of years ago, 2% or 3% of Jews did X. Therefore, all Jews in the present owe me $10,000 a piece." And it's like, oh, come on!
Come on!
I mean, we just have to say no to that stuff.
And we have to say no out of love, and out of respect, and out of concern, and out of care, and saying, no, listen, man, you blame me for your problems, but I'm not the source of your problems.
You're just disempowering yourself, and you are making sure those problems can never ever be solved.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, absolutely.
So, what about teaching English in China?
I hear that's not too hard a gig to get into.
Yeah, that's actually the thing that I... Well, it's kind of part of my plan that I wanted to do in Japan, is teach English.
But once again... But in China, I don't think you need a BA.
Yes, yes, I actually do.
I did the research.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah.
I just came to a dead end as well.
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I know there's quite a few people that listen to the show that have either done this or currently doing this, teaching English in a foreign country.
So if you have any information that would be helpful for Peter, please send it to me at operations at freedomainradio.com, and I'll forward it to him.
Maybe the collective Borg brain of the listenership knows something that we don't.
It might be able to help you out, Peter.
Okay, great.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um.
Oh yeah, no, this would be great to...
You know, I tried to go down that avenue and, uh... Actually, it was kind of the...
I know it might sound stupid, but kind of the inspiration to get my bachelor's degree is so that I can at least have something or some way to escape the current situation.
Can I make an offer here?
Yeah, sure.
I mean, I know like most guys, you're like, help, help!
Accepting help will make me gay or something like that, right?
But will you take a minor offer of help?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay, so let's say you can get somewhere.
I know, I mean, trying to save up cash on 600 bones a month is pretty tough.
If it's just like a plane ticket or something that you need, will you give us a shout, let us know and let us help you out?
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Good, good, okay.
And, you know, we can get the listeners to, you know, meet you at the airport and get you set up so you're not heading out alone and all that.
So if you'll take the help, And I, you know, I say this to people who are in traumatic situations as a whole.
I don't care what race you are.
But if you're in a traumatic situation, we actually think we made, yeah, we made this offer to a black guy who called in who was in a traumatic situation.
If there's something that we can do, like if it's just a matter of money or information or resources or support or a community that you can get to, let us organize something to help you.
And that would make me feel good.
Not that you care necessarily about that as your primary goal.
But if it's just a matter like you need a flight or whatever it is, we can cover that, get you out, get you to some place where you're not in this situation of exquisite terror every day.
I definitely appreciate it.
I'll accept any help I can get.
I really appreciate it.
So we'll try and get you some resources.
We'll certainly work to do our best to get you some help.
And thank you so much for calling.
And I am sorry.
And you know, it really makes me mad.
It makes me mad.
And I'm not even going to do a big rant here.
But it just makes me mad that these activists come in and it's like, oh, let's end apartheid and let's end racism.
And then they don't have to live in the aftermath.
They don't have to live You know, with half a million murders and three quarters of a million rapes, they don't have to live in these gated communities.
They don't have to live with, I remember when I was there, broken glass on top.
You've seen that right?
Broken glass on top of the walls.
to keep people out and bars on the window.
It's more than a virtual prison and fear at walking down the street.
So these activists they come bunching in you know it's like Freeman Nelson Mandela and apartheid and then they go back and they don't have to live with the aftermath and they don't have to live with babies being raped in their environment.
They don't have to live with kids being grabbed off the street and cut up for magic potions they don't have to live with that and that's what bugs the shit out of me when it comes to activism I think if you're an activist stay because then you're invested not just in your own moral self-congratulation and thinking what a great and wonderful person you are oh look I've demonized white males you're a moral hero because no one gets to do that you know go down take on the nation of Islam
Okay, I'll give you some props, but protesting about white males are bad, white people are racist, oh yeah, wow, I've never heard that one before, you're such a moral hero, boy, are you ever cutting the new edge of human excellence in ethics.
But it bothers me, and I remember saying this at the time, you know, like, oh, you're pouring all this weight and emotion and energy into this, and yeah, apartheid was not a good system.
I'm an anarchist, I don't think any government system is good.
But the idea that you just rip off this band-aid and no one bleeds to death is just a lie.
But everyone just walks away from the blood, leaves the body on the pavement and says, look at me.
I'm such a great person.
I demonized white people.
I fought racism.
I'm an activist.
I'm powerful.
I'm good.
And then the country falls apart and they're back home playing Wii.
So anyway, keep us posted, man.
And let us help you.
If you can and if we can.
Absolutely.
Thank you, Stefan.
Jan, I just want to say thanks to you and the team.
I appreciate all you guys are doing and keep up the good work.
The work that you're doing is, I believe, really making a difference out there and keeps me sane.
Thank you, man.
Listen, I know we danced on some pretty volatile landmines here.
How was the conversation for you?
I just wanted to check before you left.
No, it was amazing, thanks.
I was actually looking quite forward to talking to you about these things and it actually really helped me, you know, just to have a bit more hope again.
Good.
Good.
Well, we'll do what we can to try and help you out.
Not that you can't do it yourself, but it always helps to get some aid.
So, thanks.
Hey, for an aid, we still got our own office.
All right.
Thanks, man.
Let's move on to the next call.
All right.
Thanks, Peter.
Take care and stay safe, man.
Well, Luke, thanks.
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