July 21, 2015 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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3027 What Pisses Me Off About Donald Trump and John McCain
Unless you’ve lived under a rock, you’ve heard about the impact Donald Trump is having on American Politics. After controversial comments about illegal immigration and crime, Trump has risen to the very top of the polls, making him the frontrunner for the Republican nomination for the Presidential Election. After a very successful campaign event in Phoenix, John McCain called Trump supporters “crazies,” which lead to a public war of words between the two figures. Recently, Trumps comments about McCain’s status as a war hero have been punched on by the mainstream media and Republican political establishment. Now I want to tell you what pisses me off about Donald Trump and John McCain!
I think I understand the political establishment in America is really, really upset with Donald Trump's comments about the war hero or non-war hero status of John McCain.
What did it start out with?
Well, it started out because Donald Trump made some comments about people coming in from Mexico, illegal immigrants, some of them being rapists, some of them being murderers, some of them, he said, I assume being good people.
And of course, this has made everybody completely insane.
Forget Medicare, forget Social Security.
Illegal immigration is the third rail of American politics.
Or at least it was until the Donald took a giant step on it and lit up like a Halloween candy.
And McCain said about these comments with regards to illegal immigrants, McCain said, it's very bad.
This performance with our friend Alan Phoenix is very hurtful to me.
Because what he did was he fired up the crazies.
See?
Interestingly enough...
John McCain represents Arizona.
Phoenix is in Arizona.
And Donald Trump is speaking to an audience in Phoenix.
Both McCain and Trump are running, or are Republicans.
So basically, McCain was calling his own constituents crazies.
That's not very good politics in some ways.
McCain said, we have a very extreme element within our Republican Party.
Now he galvanized them.
He's really got them activated.
Okay, so what we can glean from this is that John McCain is enormously, highly, deeply, vociferously, religiously, Old Testament-style opposed.
You see, to Donald Trump's comments about illegal immigrants and that he wants to build a wall and that there's a criminal element entering the country through an unprotected southern border, John McCain really finds that offensive.
He opposes it.
It's wrong to say it.
Except...
Drug and human smuggling, home invasions, murder.
We're outmanned.
Of all the illegals in America, more than half come through Arizona.
Have we got the right plan?
Plan's perfect.
You bring troops, state, county, and local law enforcement together.
And complete the dang fins.
It'll work this time.
Senator, you're one of us.
I'm John McCain and I approve this message.
See, John McCain was recently asked why he hadn't gotten into a Hillary Clinton, I've got a server in my shoe style problem with emails.
He says, I don't use email!
Because apparently he's so old that it's like sorcery to him.
But there is this thing called the internet where people can look up things that you said before, which is why there's a list of 115 flip-flops that a recorder that John McCain has made.
He seems to be stuck in a highly accelerating revolving door of his own self-contradictions, but that's neither here nor there.
So, what did Trump say about McCain, which has people so fired up at the moment?
Let's have a wee listen, shall we?
John McCain goes, oh boy, Trump makes my life difficult.
He had 15,000 crazies show up, crazies.
He called them all crazy.
I said, they weren't crazy.
They were great Americans.
These people, if you would have seen these people, I know what crazy is.
I know all about crazies.
These weren't crazy.
So he insulted me, and he insulted everybody in that room.
And I said, somebody should run against John McCain, who has been, you know, in my opinion, not so hot.
And I supported him.
I supported him for president.
I raised a million dollars for him.
It's a lot of money.
I supported him.
He lost.
He let us down.
But, you know, he lost.
So I never liked him as much after that, because I don't like losers.
But, Frank, Frank, let me get to it.
He hit me.
He's not a war hero.
He's a war hero.
He's a war hero.
He's a war hero because he was captured.
I like people that weren't captured, okay?
I hate to tell you.
Do you agree with that?
He's a war hero because he was captured, okay?
And I believe perhaps he's a war hero, but right now he's said some very bad things about a lot of people.
So why do people care about this now?
You see, because Donald Trump is upsetting the carefully placed house of cards known as the relationship between the Republicans and the mainstream, which is to say largely liberal or left-wing media.
See, don't talk about illegal immigrants.
You don't talk about these kinds of things.
And this is not what Donald Trump is doing.
He's bringing up stuff that is interesting and important to him.
And basically, he's got $10 billion worth of I don't give a damn money.
He doesn't need to take money from anyone.
He doesn't need to have a whole bunch of PR spin filter jockeys riding his back, telling him what to say.
He's basically not dealing with the media like Republicans usually do, which is similar to the relationship Gollum has with the ring.
He's just able to speak frankly and openly about things that are important, and it's resonating with the American public.
Plus, Donald Trump is not only leading the Republican candidacy, but he's also gaining substantial support from Hispanics.
See, let me tell you something.
A lot of Hispanics who left Mexico left Mexico because they didn't like Mexico.
Or at least they liked America more than they liked Mexico.
When you risk life and limb to leave a country and get to a new country, you don't want that old country following you.
It's like the stalker in the rearview mirror.
You want to lose that person.
So the fact that there is some criminal element pouring across the border...
A lot of Hispanics in America, not very pleased about that because, you know, they're the people who are going to try and get their kids into gangs.
So, yeah, they have no problem with the wall as well.
Now, the Republican viewpoint for the last 20 years, the Republican leadership has basically said, well, you get Hispanic votes by being soft on illegal immigration, by courting their vote, by offering amnesty and all this kind of crap.
Now, if Donald Trump...
By taking a firm stand against illegal immigration, win substantial portions of the Hispanic vote, well, Republican leadership have been revealed as ostriches, not with their head up in the sand, but up their own ass for the last 20 years, which doesn't make them look very competent.
So they're kind of upset with him about that.
Now, in a very rich and deeply ironic segment, Uber Liberal hunted Martha Raddatz harangued and criticized Donald Trump because Donald Trump received three student deferments and one medical deferment for a bone spur, which I assume is handy for...
Spitting fruit and climbing trees on his feet.
And I love it when women in particular razz a man about not going off to fight war.
You see, women are not subject to the draft.
And so when women nag men about not going to war, when the women are not subjected to the draft, I find that kind of ridiculous and annoying.
But of course, you're not really allowed to say that.
So I guess if Donald Trump had gone to war, been blown up, then the tens of thousands of people he's employed, the hundreds of billions of dollars of economic activity he's generated would all have vanished.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people are fairly happy he didn't go.
So it's an interesting question.
What is a war hero?
Is a war hero someone who gets shot down?
And interestingly enough, John McCain tried to eject.
Well, he did eject from his airplane.
But he landed in a lake in North Vietnam.
And a local villager swam out, saved him, cut him free from the ropes that he was stuck in from his parachute, dragged him to shore, fought off people who were clubbing him and stabbing him because he'd been bombing lots of people.
And this guy, this Vietnamese guy, saved his life.
John McCain writes an autobiography, doesn't even mention the guy.
I only met him once.
Forgot about him completely, according to the guy's widow.
So, I don't know.
Someone saves my life and fights off people who are trying to hurt me, risking his own life and limb.
I think I'd be pretty grateful for the rest of my life, but maybe that's just me.
John McCain did, according to his own confession, give military secrets to the enemy, which in military terms is called a serious no-no.
You are only allowed to give your name, rank, and serial number and you are supposed to choose death rather than give military information.
John McCain chose to give military information to his captors in return for medical treatment.
That's the deal.
That's what happens.
That's what you sign up for.
People have been prosecuted in the past in the military for submitting to torture even and supplying information to the enemy.
Of course, as an admirable son, that was not really going to happen to John McCain.
He was quite heroic, it seems, in his keeping other prisoner spirits up and so on.
But, you know, I'd like to offer up perhaps a little bit out of left field, another possible war hero who I think may be more deserving of the title.
This would be one C. Clay, later M. Ali.
Good old flies like a butterfly stings like a bee, Muhammad Ali.
he says I punch so hard I miss you You get a cold from the wind.
I love that guy.
But Mohammed Ali, April 28th, 1967, of course, the U.S. is at war in Vietnam after the trumped-up Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was a complete lie and admitted as a complete lie.
The whole thing that started the war was a He was convicted June 20th.
Amazing how American justice system can work fast when there's lots of cameras on it.
June 20th, less than two months later, he was convicted of draft evasion, sentenced to five years in prison.
Fined $10,000 and banned from boxing for three years.
So apparently he could box in prison.
He stayed out of prison, his case was appealed, and he returned to the ring October 26, 1970.
So he was fined, experienced a huge amount of negative publicity, and lost almost three years of his prime of his career as a boxer.
So it takes a lot of heroism to go against popular culture and to defy that which is worse than slavery.
The draft is worse than slavery, because slavery got fewer slaves killed than the draft gets people killed in the military, at least those who are in the front.
So, yeah, it takes courage to fight off the slave ships of the American military that want to ship you overseas and get you shredded.
So, was McCain more of a war hero than Muhammad Ali?
I don't think so.
I mean, Trump is similar in a lot of ways to Muhammad Ali.
They're both loud, they're both braggarts, and neither of them really pull any punches.
So, yeah.
I think that's important to understand.
You know, Trump's position, if I don't want to speak for the Donald, but he says, look, I supported the guy, McCain.
I raised over a million dollars for his presidential bid, and basically this is how he treats me.
Well, of course, McCain got together with the McCain-Feingold Act to try and limit the amount of campaign contributions that aspiring politicians could receive from special interest groups of concentrated economic interests.
And I guess he was not overly concerned with getting all of this stuff from Donald Trump and insulting his own constituents, insulting Donald Trump and railing against Donald Trump's opposition to illegal insulting Donald Trump and railing against Donald Trump's opposition to illegal immigration when he actually ran a campaign at Oh, I don't know.
What can you even say?
So Donald Trump, yeah, he's an interesting addition.
I mean, a very interesting addition because he's somebody who doesn't need anybody's money.
He's not going to be subject to special interest groups.
He's a plain talker.
He is a ferocious and competent businessman.
He is an incredible negotiator.
His book, The Art of the Deal.
It's either the number one or close to the number one best-selling business book of all time.
Would you want Donald Trump negotiating with Vladimir Putin or would you want Hillary Clinton negotiating with Vladimir Putin?
If I were backed into a corner, I think I know which one I would choose.
