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Jan. 5, 2007 - Skeptoid
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Skeptoid #19: Organic Food Myths

It's marketed as a revolution in health and the environment, but it's better described as a counterproductive fad. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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Organic Food Myths Debunked 00:05:30
The organic food fad has been explosively successful in the marketplace, persuading consumers to pay up to twice as much money for the exact same product, greenwashed with some vague new age feel goods.
The truth is that probably not a single fact you think you know about organic food is true.
It uses more acreage and requires the application of more chemicals, all for benefits that are never actually spelled out anywhere.
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Organic food myths.
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Today, we're going to walk into a specialty food market and purchase one of the most trendy, popular, and correspondingly overpriced products on the market today.
Organic food.
Note, this show was originally aired in 2006, so some of the numbers given are probably quite a bit higher today.
Organic food is a conventional food crop, genetically exactly the same plant variety as the regular version, but grown according to a different set of standards.
In this sense, organic food is really the same thing as kosher food.
The food itself is identical, but is prepared in such a way to conform to different philosophical standards.
Just as kosher standards are defined by rabbinical authorities, the USDA's National Organic Program sets the requirements for foods to bear a certified organic label.
Basically, it forbids the use of modern synthetic fertilizers and pesticides in favor of organic equivalents.
And for animals, it requires that their veterinary care has not included antibiotics.
There are other rules too, and the basic goal is to require the use of only natural products throughout the growth, preparation, and preservation stages.
Organic food is more expensive than conventional food due not only to its lower crop yields and more expensive organic fertilizers and pesticides in larger quantities, but mainly because it's such a big fad right now and is in such high demand.
Why is that?
Is organic food healthier?
Does it make an important political statement?
The usual arguments boil down to three, that it benefits small farmers rather than big, evil companies, that it's somehow healthier to eat, and that the cultivation method is better for the environment.
Rather than accepting these three emotionally satisfying benefits at face value, let's instead take a skeptical look and see what the data actually show.
Let's take these three claimed benefits one at a time.
Number one, buying organic food benefits small farmers and represents a blow to the big food corporations.
All right, let's take for granted the position that major food producers deserve to be struck with a blow.
I'm sure the world's populations that lack food security appreciate that sentiment.
Make no mistake, organic food is big, big business.
The days when the organic produce section of the supermarket represented the product of a small local farmer are long gone.
California alone produces over $600 million in organic produce, most of it coming from just five farms, who are also the same producers of most non-organic food in the state.
70% of all organic milk is controlled by just one major milk producer.
Five or ten years ago, when the major food producers saw that organic food was coming into vogue, what do you think they did?
They smelled higher prices charged for less product and started producing organic crops.
Nearly all organic crops in the United States are either grown, distributed, or sold by exactly the same companies who produce conventional crops.
They don't care which one you buy.
You're not striking a blow at anyone except at your own pocketbook.
Trader Joe's is a supermarket chain specializing in organic, vegetarian, and alternative foods with hundreds of locations throughout the United States, centered in organic, happy Southern California.
Shoppers appreciate its image of healthful food in a small business family atmosphere.
The Environmental Cost of Organics 00:07:57
Really?
Well, in 2005 alone, Trader Joe's racked up sales estimated at $4.5 billion.
The company is owned by a family trust set up by German billionaire Theo Albrecht, ranked the 22nd richest man in the world by Forbes in 2004.
He's the co-founder and CEO of German multinational ALDI, with global revenue and grocery sales at $37 billion.
According to Business Week, the decade of the 1990s saw Trader Joe's increase its profits by 1,000%.
Trader Joe's also compensates its employees aggressively, with starting salaries for supervisors at $40,000.
They hire only non-union workers.
Now, to any capitalist or business-minded person, there's nothing wrong with any of that, unless you're pro-union or anti-big business.
It's a great company and very successful.
Trader Joe's customers love to embrace that healthful image, but they should not kid themselves that they're striking a blow at big business and supporting the little guy.
I'm not exactly sure why anti-corporatism wound up on the organic food agenda, since it's so counterintuitive.
The irony is that the organic food companies supply a smaller amount of food per acre planted and enjoy dramatically higher profits, which is part of why anti-corporatists hate corporations in the first place.
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Number two, organic foods are healthier to eat.
Did you ever wonder why Chinese people drink only hot tea?
Well, they boil it to kill the bacteria.
Most local Chinese farming uses organic methods, in that the only fertilizers used are human and animal waste.
Without being boiled, it's basically a nice cup of E. coli.
In the case of China and other poor nations, the reason for organic farming has less to do with ideology and more to do with lack of access to modern farming technology.
The National Review reports that Americans believe organic food is healthier by a 2 to 1 margin, despite the lack of any evidence supporting this.
When you take the exact same strain of a plant and grow it in two different ways, its chemical and genetic makeup remain the same.
One may be larger than the other if one growing method was more efficient, but its fundamental makeup and biochemical content is defined by its genes, not by the way it was grown.
Consumer reports found no consistent difference in appearance, flavor, or texture.
A blanket statement like, organic cultivation results in a crop with superior nutritional value, has no logical or factual basis.
Some supporters of organic growing claim that the danger of non-organic food lies in the residues of chemical pesticides.
Well, this claim is even more ridiculous, since the organic pesticides and fungicides are less efficient than their modern synthetic counterparts, up to seven times as much of it must be used.
Organic pesticides include rotinone, which has been shown to cause the symptoms of Parkinson's disease and is a natural poison used in hunting by some native tribes.
Pyrethrum, which is carcinogenic, sabadilla, which is highly toxic to honeybees, and fermented urine, which I don't want on my food whether it causes any diseases or not.
Supporters of organics claim that the much larger amounts of chemicals they use is okay because those chemicals are all natural.
But just because something is natural doesn't mean that it's safe or healthy.
Consider the examples of hemlock, mercury, lead, toadstools, box jellyfish neurotoxin, asbestos, not to mention a nearly infinite number of toxic bacteria and viruses, E. coli, salmonella, bubonic plague, smallpox.
When you hear any product claimed to be healthy because its ingredients are all natural, be skeptical.
By no definition can all natural mean that a product is healthful.
Consider the logical absurdity proposed by those who claim conventional growers produce less healthful food.
To the organically minded, conventional growers are evil, greedy corporations interested only in their profit margin.
What's the best way to improve the profit margin?
To buy less pesticides and fertilizer.
This means they must use far more advanced and efficient products.
The idea that pesticides leave dangerous residues is many decades out of date.
Food production is among the most regulated and scrutinized of processes, and today's synthetic pesticides and fertilizers are completely biodegradable.
They're supported by decades of studies that demonstrate their total safety.
In the United States, 2006 brought two major outbreaks of E. coli, both resulting in deaths and numerous illnesses, ultimately traced to organically grown spinach and lettuce.
According to the Center for Global Food Issues, organic foods make up about 1% of all the food sold in the United States, but it accounts for 8% of E. coli cases.
Number 3.
Organic growing methods are better for the environment.
Organic methods require about twice the acreage to produce the same crop, thus directly resulting in the destruction of undeveloped land.
During a recent Girl Scout field trip to Tanaka Farms in Irvine, California, one of the owners told us his dirty little secret that contradicts what you'll find on his website.
Market conditions compelled them to switch to organic a few years ago, and he absolutely hates it.
The per-acre yield has been slashed.
Many so-called environmentalists generally favor organic farming, at the same time that they protest deforestation to make room for more agriculture.
Feeding the Population Efficiently 00:02:32
Well, how do they reconcile these directly conflicting views?
If you want to feed a growing population, you cannot do both, and soon you won't be able to do either.
If you support rainforest preservation, logically you should oppose organic farming, particularly in the developing world.
I'm not making this stuff up.
For every dreadlocked rich kid beating a bongo drum in favor of organics, there's a PhD agriculturist warning about its short-sightedness and urging efficient modern agriculture to feed our growing population.
Personally, I like forests and natural areas, so I favor using the farmlands that we already have as efficiently as possible.
This benefits everyone.
I say we dump the useless, paranormal objections to foods freighted with evil corporate hate energy and instead use our brains to our advantage for once.
When we find a better way to grow the same crop, faster, stronger, and healthier, and on less acreage, let's do it.
We all benefit.
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