Luke Rosiak exposes an alleged Medicaid fraud machine where billions vanish on unverifiable services like companionship, allegedly concentrated in Columbus, Ohio, and Minneapolis via Somali-owned firms. Dr. Oz estimates hundreds of billions are wasted, while claims suggest Minnesota Governor Tim Walz ignored the scheme despite an 87% autism diagnosis rate in the local community. The segment links this corruption to political protectionism, noting a state senate candidate's multimillion-dollar healthcare company, before shifting to Ken Griffin relocating Citadel from New York due to Mayor Zohran Mamdani's tax proposals. Ultimately, the episode argues that systemic negligence allows criminal networks to drain federal resources while shielding themselves through demographic influence. [Automatically generated summary]
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Medicare Fraud in Ohio00:14:57
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If you want to join us, our friend Luke Rosiak did an investigative report.
I want to read a part of it to you.
He said, I've been investigating the federal waste and fraud that has been going on in this country for 20 years.
It is the biggest scandal I have ever had.
He goes on to explain before the department, well, before Doge, basically, it made a quiet move that may end up as the most lasting impact on the federal deficit.
And he points to how Doge published a massive trove of data that for the first time they're letting the public see it when companies are billing Medicaid for it.
Now, we've gotten a really nice glimpse into a lot of this.
In Minneapolis, other states, even like Ohio, but California in particular, New York in particular, and it's only going to get bigger.
And anyway, he's been doing a deep dive into all of these numbers, and he said it's the most blatant waste of federal dollars that I have encountered in my two decades as an investigative reporter.
Now, this is only the tip of the iceberg.
It seems to be focused on home health care, hospice, daycare facilities that don't have any children.
And other healthcare scams.
Anyway, we invited Luke Rosiak, investigative reporter at the Daily Wire, that did a five part series spending months on the ground in Columbus investigating this Medicaid fraud and where the money's actually going.
Luke, welcome back, sir.
How are you?
I'm good, Sean.
Thanks for having me.
All right.
Why don't I give you the ball and why don't I let you run with this?
Because you've been doing the deeper dive that I have been doing, I've only been able to report on it.
Based on other people's great hard work like yours, so I'll let you explain it.
Sure.
So, at the root of all the great work we've seen from people like Nick Shirley is Medicaid waivers, which means Medicaid was intended to be basically let the poor people go to the doctor.
But waivers let states add in extra programs that are oftentimes only have tangential justification.
They're really pushing the limit of what this was designed to do.
Minnesota really did that, Ohio did it too.
And one of the ways that they did it is by allowing family members of people to get paid for helping their elderly parents with cleaning or cooking or just even what they call conversation and companionship.
In other words, they're paying people to hang out with their own family members, if you can believe it.
They're not nurses or anything.
And then, you know, you can also have other clients.
In some cases, they have these businesses where you'll go and you supposedly check on old ladies.
But it's basically what I call.
Free butlers for Somalis.
They'll send a personal servant to your house, and if you want them to clean or do your hair or cook for you, they'll do it.
There are so many people now who are just getting paid in Columbus, Ohio to take care of their own family members, and they get paid through these middlemen companies that then bill Medicaid that there are entire buildings.
There's actually an entire street where there's no businesses remaining except these home health care firms.
I went in, there's one landlord that owns seven buildings.
Inside those seven buildings are just 300 different Medicaid companies, all of them together build Medicaid a quarter billion dollars, and that's just one landlord.
You know, I interviewed Dr. Oz, and I think he has a handle on this in terms of being inside a government more than any other official.
I don't know if you've spent time with him.
And he keeps telling me, Sean, it's going to be hundreds of billions of dollars.
And then he went on to explain that is money that would otherwise be available for people that really do need help that we can't afford to help at this time.
And that the waste, fraud, corruption, Abuse and outright stealing from the American taxpayer is way beyond anybody's comprehension.
Yeah, I mean, Medicaid is a huge portion of the federal budget.
And some of the people, especially on the left, even said, Why is Doge even trying to cut different government agencies and so on?
It's not going to make a difference because most of the budget is, you know, defense and Medicaid.
Well, Medicaid, it turns out, is not something that is just like off limits.
Medicaid is just infested with fraud and waste.
And because we didn't have the data, we didn't know who was billing.
And once you see who's billing it, it's the sketchiest people you can imagine.
Every single person in these buildings in Columbus who has these companies was not American.
I mean, 99% are Somali or from other African countries.
A lot of them have side businesses.
At the same time that they're collecting a million dollars a year from Medicaid or more, they're doing something else full time.
It's insane.
And a lot of them don't even pay the taxes.
They have tax liens against them, they have criminal records.
You look these people up in public records, and I spent a long time meticulously researching them.
It is insane that somebody would just Pay a million dollars or more.
Some of these are getting billing half a million dollars a month for having people hang out with their own family members.
And there's no way to verify that it's really going on, you know, because it's like unless you have cameras in people's houses, who knows what's doing.
Best case scenario, we're paying people to hang out with their family members, which is an absurd waste.
Worst case, they say they've got clients who aren't their family members, but there's no way we can verify that they're actually going to their house because it's in private residences.
And I'll just tell you, I mean, it's the Sketchiest buildings imaginable.
It's just not, it does not seem right when you walk down these halls and it's just endless, door after door after door.
And behind every door is some insane story about some guy named, you know, Muhammad Ahmed or Ahmed Muhammad.
Their names are like Omar, Omar.
There's no way the government is keeping track of these people properly.
And they can easily just, you know, take this money and say they visited some old person and they didn't really.
And even if they get caught, nothing really happens.
Well, just like the daycare centers that don't have any kids in them, it's timely in what you're saying because I don't know if you've been following Congresswoman Omar.
She refused to respond to a request from a Minnesota committee seeking more information on her ties to this massive fraud scandal in the state.
You know, for example, Dr. Oz on this program told me that about 87% of kids in the Somali community out of Minnesota are diagnosed with autism.
I mean, that rate is mathematically impossible, well beyond any normal autism rate for kids, way higher.
And what he was explaining was how the fraud is kind of institutionalized and that the system of fraud is being passed on from family to family and neighbor to neighbor.
And that's why people say, oh, you must be bigoted against people from Somalia.
No, it has nothing to do with that.
It's just that the Somali community institutionalized this fraud.
And I'm not saying everybody.
I'm saying the people that are guilty need to be held accountable.
Yeah, and I don't know if all Somalis are scheming the government, but I can tell you virtually everybody doing this home health care was Somali.
And it just defies belief that there aren't any Americans that have old people that need help taking care of them.
It also defies belief that you would come from an impoverished country and then demand to be paid to hang out with your own family.
It defies belief that you would get $10 million a year from our government.
Oh, I have certain family members you'd probably have to pay me to hang out with.
I think everybody does.
Yeah, and they're joking.
Daycares there too, where they, you know, on the official Ohio website, and Ohio is a Republican run state, they'll say, they have an asterisk against half the daycares.
These are adult daycares, if you can believe it.
That's a real thing.
And there is an asterisk that says, these are for Somalis.
And so the government, it seems illegal to me.
I mean, if you said you had a whites only daycare, would that fly?
But I think they know that if a white person goes in there and says, Hi, I'd like daycare for my aging father, they say, No, get out of here because you're not Somali.
And it seems like most of the Somalis, they feel safe enough, will just kind of go along with the scheme and not blow the whistle because a lot of them are basically living in this parallel society where they have networks of people in their clans and they'll offer up their social security numbers to be billed against for non existent home health care.
And maybe they get kickbacks.
Maybe they have some structure where there's like a kingpin at the top of it all.
But it's amazing how many Somalis are involved in this.
There's a Somali that ran for state senate with the Democrat endorsement.
And he founded an $11 million home healthcare company.
And he was doing it on the side.
He had other jobs.
And when he ran for office, he didn't even mention it.
And his campaign says, I'm the exemplification of the American dream, how anyone can come to America and succeed.
But apparently, for him, that just means billing a huge amount for Medicaid, and it's not even your real job.
Well, you know, if you look at Governor Tampon Tim Walz and Keith Ellison, now we've had whistleblowers come forward and And say that they were made aware of the fraud that was taking place and they didn't lift a finger to stop it.
And they're both very defensive over it.
But it seems, at least according to them, if you believe them, and I do, that they were very well aware.
And then it makes you wonder I mean, because you're looking at a fairly large voting block, whether or not this was done for their own political benefit, that they turned a blind eye.
Well, look at Ohio.
They had their primary election yesterday, and there's been some projections about what's going to happen in the general election.
And people are Saying the Democrat might actually win.
Ohio was a very close state where Republicans generally led, but you bring all these Somalis in, and Columbus is the second most amount of Somalis after Minneapolis, and now they're saying that Democrats could win Ohio.
And when I looked up all these home health care operators and I found their criminal records and their debts and tax liens and so on, what I also found is that they're almost all registered voters, and of those, almost all of them are registered for the Democratic Party.
All right.
So walk us through some of the very specific experiences that you had as you went to these, quote, facilities that were really not facilities to begin with and the conversations that you had with the people that were, quote, running them.
Sure.
So, I mean, one of them, I went in and they had, you know, I had researched them and found that they had one of the guys, it was a couple, a man and a wife running this business.
The man had been arrested like 30 times, the endangerment of children and so on.
He had his nursing license revoked for lying.
He had theft convictions, violence convictions.
And then the wife was arrested for felony malicious wounding, also convicted of fast numerous times.
And they had a Medicaid business that they started after all that.
And Ohio apparently said it was fine.
The Medicaid department apparently said it was fine.
And they billed a million dollars.
So another business, it was incorporated using the address of the teenage son of a convicted money launderer.
And it was incorporated by an accountant who I think maybe didn't want to use his own address because.
He had lost his accountant's license for stealing public funds.
And they went on to get paid $7 million through Medicaid.
And it's so blatant.
Once you have the names of these people and you look them up, it's like you pick any at random and you find a story like this.
But without those names, we just didn't know who was getting it.
We were just told there's nothing we can do.
Medicaid is about to destroy the federal budget and there's nothing we can do.
And now that we see who it is, it's almost all foreign, almost all just insane red flags everywhere.
And even in the red state of Ohio with Governor DeWine, he seems to have his head in the sand.
All right, quick break.
More on the investigative reporting about all this Medicaid fraud and child care fraud with Luke Rosiak on the other side.
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Investigative reporter for the Daily Wire, Luke Rosiak, is with us talking about Medicare fraud and, of course, all the fraud that's taken place in Minnesota, Ohio, California, New York.
I mean, it's in the billions and billions of dollars.
You did write about one experience.
You were driving down Cleveland Avenue, and in less than 40 seconds, you come across endless home health companies, and you name them, and you talk about an enormous complex.
On Bush Boulevard, and there's no windows, which would be a problem for most office buildings, which you're right about.
And no one in the building.
And what's inside is 94 different companies signed up to bill Medicaid, each with a tiny office, often marked with a sheet of paper, Home Health LLC, for example.
And that building alone billed taxpayers $66 million?
Yeah, just one building, 94 companies.
They just basically exist on paper.
Unverifiable Services and Bloat00:03:50
You know, they'll have notices claiming they're all out lunch.
Like, they're manipulators and they're liars.
And those are the ones getting money based on these unverifiable services.
And, you know, of course, they'll accuse you of racism for even asking about it, which in itself is like, why would it be racist to inquire how you got $10 million?
It's only racist if you're acknowledging that it's like only Somalis who are doing this.
You know, there's a woman who had a janitorial company cleaning toilets or whatever, and, you know, she renamed the LLC.
To be health.
And she started billing $100,000 to Medicaid in the first month.
So you would think it would take time to gather clients and go on.
And they're like, no, that's fine.
Eventually she was billing $650,000 every month.
Well, you did great work, great investigative reporting.
Luke Rosiak, we do appreciate you sharing it with us.
Keep up the good work, sir.
And thanks for being with us.
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You know, when I started, I actually did have an experience recently with bloating.
Want to know why?
Because I stupidly went along with people that were visiting me and we ordered Chinese food.
Guess what?
It's garbage.
I shouldn't eat Chinese food.
But that's a little bit different.
You know, because Chinese food has a lot of.
Stuff in it.
And it used to be.
Yeah, all the garbage in it.
Yeah, all the things.
It did taste great when you're eating it.
I got beef and broccoli with pork fried rice.
Yeah, that's a lot.
I knew I shouldn't eat it.
I knew it.
And I paid the price.
But two days I was bloated up, bloated up, bloated up.
I hate that feeling.
But here's the thing.
And meat, I feel great.
Right.
For your body, eggs and meat work, right?
So for my body, I'm not allowed to have eggs.
Who knows why?
But for my body, it doesn't work.
Now, that might change in six or seven weeks.
But me right now, I can't have eggs.
Eggs don't work for you either.
So don't worry about that part.
I can't have turkey either.
Like, I can't have turkey.
I can't have eggs.
But that's just for me.
For other people, their RNA might see something different.
I still make them breakfast sometimes if they come over early because they still love their dad's breakfast.
Ever since they were young, I'd make breakfast for them.
Yeah, because it's time they get with just you.
I'd make toast.
I'd make bacon.
I'd make.
Pancakes, I'd make all the crap that you never want to eat.
Although I always insist that they use pure maple syrup.
You know, when the last time I've ever had pancakes or French toast, which I used to love, I can't even remember how long ago it's been.
You can't eat it or you don't want to?
No, I really can't remember because I don't eat crap.
I don't think that French toast is crap.
I eat eggs.
You know, occasionally I'll have a soup.
You know, and even if I like order a soup just to taste it, see what it tastes like, I'm always interested if people make a good soup and I'll try it a little bit, but then I just, I'm not eating enough of it that it could impact me.
Anyway, go to the next one.
Well, I guess you're happy.
I guess we'll tie in another sponsor because Greenberry has pancake and muffin mix.
So I guess you can eat that now.
I don't eat pancakes though.
I like their Greenberry cereal, but I don't, but, and I like silver pala pasta sillos.
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Okay, I have to tell you, the line in the Viome test did not say, line 47, Sean Hannity was right.
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Well, because they didn't know about that part.
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They were aware of this conversation.
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I have a new hero.
So there's this guy, Ken Griffin.
I don't know him.
I never met him.
He's a multi, multi billionaire.
He runs Citadel.
He's moved his entire operation now down to Florida, although he was going to spend $6 billion and keep a place in New York.
And then Zoran, Marxist Kami Mamdani, jackass that he is, you know, does this film.
What did I tell you I'd do in the campaign?
Tax the rich.
He also said he'd give you free buses.
Sorry.
Can't afford them.
And he singled out Ken Griffin.
Ken Griffin was going to create thousands of high paying jobs for people in New York, never mind the construction jobs because he was going to build out office space and all this other stuff.
I don't know Ken Griffin.
I do know this.
I have followed the real estate this guy buys.
Here's an interesting story in Palm Beach, Florida, for example.
This guy, years ago, goes up, knocks on the door of five people with oceanfront estates in Palm Beach, Florida.
And by the way, I mean, the prices of real estate in Florida and Palm Beach are absolutely insane.
And when I tell you the prices, you're going to say that's nuts.
And it is nuts.
Donald Trump's Mar a Lago is worth $1.5 billion.
I'm telling you right now, 22 acres.
On the ocean, on the intercoastal.
It's got a club associated.
It's a historic building.
It's an impeccable shape, whatever.
All right.
So, Ken Griffin, do you know this story?
If you do, stop.
I actually don't know this story.
He knocks on the door of five people in Palm Beach, Florida, that have mansions on the ocean.
He offers them, at the time, maybe those homes were worth $50 million each.
He offers all of them $100 million.
Now, somebody knocks on my door and wants to offer me twice what my home is really worth.
I'm taking the money and I'm moving.
I'm like, hell yeah, right?
Smart, smart on his part.
But he wanted the property.
All five homeowners said yes.
And now it's right down the block from Mar a Lago.
That's why I'm aware of it.
And I don't go to Mar a Lago.
I haven't been there all year.
I don't, I very rarely go.
I was there once.
I was there for a wedding.
People say, you hang out with the president.
No, I don't hang out with the president all the time.
He invites me.
But, you know, I'm busy.
I've got work to do.
I've got kids.
I've got family.
I've got all this stuff going on.
So Ken Griffin is now building this huge estate down the block from Mar a Lago.
I mean, it's pretty fascinating.
He's done the same thing down in Miami.
He's spending a fortune on real estate in Miami, surrounding areas, Billionaires Road down there, whatever you call it, Coconut Grove, I think.
I just don't really follow it.
So Mamdani takes this shot at him.
He's got like a 200 million plus.
Dollar penthouse in New York City overlooking Central Park on Fifth Avenue.
And Mamdani goes and does this commercial how he's going to tax the rich and he doesn't live here anyway and he's going to pay more because he's rich and I'm taking his money.
Well, Ken Griffin responds and he says, Mamdani made it clear we need to double down on our Bet Miami, which I think is awesome because as I've been telling you, Wall Street South is very real.
And that goes all the way from Miami, all the way up the coast, the east coast of Florida to West Palm Beach.
And they're doing great.
Every big private equity company, investment firm, every big bank, they got more people here than they do on Wall Street.
Here's what he said.
So, where does that leave us at 350 Park?
That leaves us with the fact that we went to Miami and revised our building plan to make it a bigger office building.
You're bailing?
So, what do we do at 350 is still a point of discussion internally.
But what is no longer a point of discussion is that Miami is now, you know, when we moved from Chicago, there was a debate between New York and Miami.
It's unquestionably true that we made the right choice.
I'll leave it at that.
It's unquestionably true that we made the right choice.
And now, what the mayor of New York has made clear to my partners, and principally my New York partners, is that we need to double down on our bet in Miami because we want to be in a state.
That embraces business, that embraces education, that embraces personal freedom and liberty, and that embraces people having an opportunity to live the American dream.
Then he went a little further.
He said, Mamdani taxed the rich.
This video outside of his apartment was creepy.
And he's not wrong.
This idiot mayor pretty much put a target on this guy and told the entire city of New York, with every lunatic that lives there, that this is where Ken Griffin, multi billionaire, lives.
Listen.
So, how did you feel about the mayor's little video?
It was creepy and weird.
Agreed.
I mean, like, Knock, knock, knock on the window.
Like, huh.
Mayor of New York City.
That's on the screen, yeah.
Yeah, on the screen.
Like, how many times have you watched that video?
Three.
Three.
I had to go back and look at it.
I couldn't help myself.
You had to what?
I had to go back and look at it again.
I mean, like, you literally look at it the first time and you're like, you gotta be kidding me.
Okay?
And then the second time, you're like, you know what?
This is actually, this has gone from creepy to actually not really creepy.
This has gone frightening because, you know, the CEO of United Healthcare was killed just a few blocks from my house.
And anything that creates like an agitation in the extremist on either side of the aisle is a frightening dynamic.
I think it's really, honestly, if anything ever happened to this guy, and I pray to God nothing happens to anybody.
I mean, I would blame Mondani.
What the hell is he doing?
What is that stupid mayor of New York doing?
Why would he single out a guy that was going to spend $6 billion?
Good, now he's going to spend it in Florida.
Governor DeSantis is very happy about it.
Good for Governor DeSantis.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Doug in Oregon.
Doug, you're on the Sean Hannity Show.
How are we doing today, kind sir?
What's going on?
I'm glad you called.
Well, I had a couple questions about the Iran deal.
Maybe it's more of an opinion from you.
I kind of think we should have gone in there in 79 when they took our hostages, and they've declared war on us several times.
And.
Well, I was going to comment on the fuel prices too and kind of correlate them.
I was starting to see the fuel prices go up before we went into Iran.
You notice that back Easter?
Fuel prices were actually going down.
This is going to be a short term problem.
And by the way, I am not rationalizing this except to say what Marco Rubio said yesterday is true.
If Iran ever got nuclear weapons, and everybody that would know within the administration, intel community, et cetera, Has all confirmed to me that the quote, the president had no choice, then they would be able to dictate the price of a barrel of oil forever if they had nuclear weapons.
So we're ridding the world of that death threat and of their control over world markets in perpetuity.
Good point that Marco made.
Well, I'm glad that Trump did what he did.
I kind of wish Reagan had done it.
Well, really, the people that should have done it, I mean, after the.
Well, remember, the day Reagan was inaugurated is the day the hostages were released that were held for 444 days.
You know, they weren't that.
Well, you're talking probably about Beirut in 1983.
But really, it was people like the Clintons, Obama, others.
Bush, I think, was a little distracted with other conflicts in the region.
Certainly, Obama putting, you know, cargo planes with cash and other currency and.
You know, providing the money to foment terror and build out their ballistic and nuclear systems was one of the dumbest decisions ever made.
And they put them in this position.
But thankfully, President Trump has taken away that threat.
This will come to an end.
And when it does, I'm sure he won't get the credit he deserves, unfortunately.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, my friend.
Thank you.
I'm going to wrap things up for today.
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