Sean Hannity and Dr. Mehmet Oz expose alleged $2 billion fraud in California's retirement system and a projected $3 billion deficit, arguing that eliminating healthcare corruption could double the Medicare trust fund's life expectancy. They condemn Virginia Governor Abigail Spanberger's redistricting as a Democratic power grab creating ten safe seats despite Trump winning 46% of the vote, while debunking false claims of a $20 billion Trump-to-Iran payment. The episode concludes by linking these financial and political maneuvers to broader concerns over voter integrity and systemic corruption. [Automatically generated summary]
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Medicare Fraud Epidemic00:14:22
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There's a lot of articles, and we've been following this, and we had Nick Shirley on, and now they've got in California the Silence Nick Shirley Act.
You know, he had the unmitigated audacity to go out in Minnesota and California and find that places that declare themselves to be daycare centers that are taking care of thousands of children.
In fact, don't exist.
And where does this money come from?
It comes from all of you.
And that's money that would otherwise be distributed to all of you.
Now we've got a new article out that came out over the weekend on FoxNews.com that Newsom and his administration knew about a $2 billion California budget error for months.
And anyway, Democrats were aware of this accounting error.
And, you know, and they plan already, they had a projected.
You know, roughly $3 billion deficit in the fiscal year that is upcoming.
The mistake is made to the state's public employee retirement system.
I mean, it just never ends.
And all of this money combined is money that would otherwise be going to you and to your family.
There has been one voice that has been the most articulate, the most informed of anybody out there, and that is Mehmet Oz.
He is the 17th administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
And anyway, he was at this testimony with Secretary Kennedy today, and the Secretary testified before the House Education Workforce Committee on the Trump administration's policies.
I mean, and they want to pull this guy off in a million different directions.
Republicans questioning the Secretary about abortion pills, gender affirming care, rural health care, school nutrition, et cetera, et cetera.
But when you get to the bottom line, as Dr. Oz has been reminding us, removing health care fraud alone would double the life of.
The Medicare trust fund.
Remember, government says that Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid on the state level, that all of this is going to be available for us, and all of them are headed towards insolvency.
The lockbox for Social Security has been long rated.
You know, if you look at, well, all these people that want the government cradle to grave, womb to the tomb ideology put in place, and everything's going to be free, Well, Mamdani's not giving New York City free buses, but putting that aside, how did those Obamacare promises keep your doctor, keep your plan, average family save?
$2,500 per family a year.
Millions lost doctors, millions lost plans, and we're now paying about, on average, 300% more.
And what Dr. Oz has been saying is some of you are worried you won't have Medicare.
He said we could double the life expectancy of Medicare and the trust fund if we could get the fraud out of the system.
And he pointed out that this task force will not stop until they accomplish that.
Anyway, here's Dr. Oz saying removing health care fraud would double the trust fund.
Let me put it in context.
The folks out there working their tails off to get Medicare.
Some of you are worried you won't have Medicare that's healthy for you.
We would double the life expectancy of the Medicare Trust Fund if we could get the fraud out of the system.
The president, the vice president, the task force, we're not going to stop until we do just that.
Anyway, Dr. Mehmet Oz joins us now.
It is remarkable to me that we're discovering all of this waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption, and nobody seems to be that interested on Capitol Hill about it, and it infuriates me because we're all being stolen from.
The magnitude of the theft we estimate to be about $100 billion a year, Sean.
Think about that $100 billion in folks paying taxes that's not going towards their long term savings and Medicare, as you pointed out, not helping our most vulnerable, which is what Medicaid's all about.
The president says he wants to love and cherish these programs.
That includes protecting them from fraudsters taking advantage of them.
And I think part of the reason that Capitol Hill hasn't really caught up is they're in a bit of a time warp because it wasn't that bad more than five years ago.
What happened five years ago?
COVID.
COVID taught a lot of fraudsters that they could corrupt the American system, whatever system you're talking about.
It could be SNAP benefits.
It could be temporary assistance for needy families.
It could be health benefits.
You could defraud the American system.
and take money out of it from COVID benefits, for example, and never be caught, never be held accountable.
None of the elected officials who are sloppily throwing money at problems, they wouldn't get caught up in it all.
And it's sort of like sleepily through the prior administration went through unnoticed.
And I'll just speak, Sean, and we're close friends.
We talk about this.
But just for everyone out there, I want you to hear this frustration in my voice.
The prior administration did not want to hear from my agency, which is Medicare and Medicaid, that we cover 170 million people's insurance.
They did not want to hear from us about corruption or fraud or anything else.
They just wanted to know one thing.
Did you sign more people up?
And so, Sean, I got thinking, like, is this really a flaw or is this maybe a feature for some people?
Now, let's think about this.
Well, one, you know this already.
If you sign someone up for Medicaid, you have to also give them the option to sign up to vote.
You know, that's something that's been in statute for many, many years.
So that's, you know, one sort of issue that comes up periodically.
But the topic that's sort of gotten to my attention more recently is the fact that this has become a jobs program.
Let's take two states, New York.
In California.
In both these states now, you have personal care services which have surged massively.
Now, what is a personal care service?
It's a service that you do for somebody that normally their family would offer for them, like driving them to the doctor's office, carrying the groceries up the stairs, like simple things like that, not licensed and not done in an accredited location.
So it's very hard to audit if it really happened appropriately.
In New York State now, the number one job, Sean, you lived in New York for a long time, the number one job in New York State is a personal care assistant.
It's not retail.
All the other things it could be, it's not that.
It's personal care service.
And this system is also, by the way, it's a big problem in California where they have even more personal care service providers.
The problem then becomes okay, now that you've gotten all these new jobs created ostensibly, that you think these are jobs on Wall Street, they're not.
They're someone carrying groceries up the stairs.
Maybe it's their parents they're carrying the groceries for.
Then the question becomes is there an additional layer of corruption?
And we're hearing more and more about the possibility that unions are getting involved.
And when you unionize, this is a massive amount of people to bring into a union.
That becomes an extra political force.
Union dues obviously contribute to the ability of unions to support some political candidates over others.
And so you basically have a political patronage system that we've built up in America.
And that's actually, I think, the core issue we need to start focusing on.
Why did we let it get so bad?
Not just that it's bad, because believe me, the president's focused on this.
He's created a task force, as you heard mentioned, with the vice president.
He's doing a spectacular job leading our efforts to try to.
You know, catch these bad apples, but the corruption is very deep because it has been systematized and allowed to prosper.
Well, I mean, this is the thing.
I mean, and this is the most ironic thing.
I'm sure you're aware of the work of Nick Shirley.
And in the particular case in Minnesota, it had to deal in large part with the Somali community.
I think you told me, I think it was you, that they had an autism rate of some 87% in the Somali community in Minnesota.
Am I right about that?
I don't know if that number is right, but they did definitely.
They claimed to have a higher baseline incidence, but without question, they paid moms to dishonestly claim their kids were autistic.
And by doing that, obviously, they saddled their child with the diagnosis for life, but they also were able to create all kinds of jobs for often for members of the community.
They took a budget, Sean, that was $3 million to get to $400 million.
I mean, come on.
Someone had to be purposely allowing that to happen.
And then they seem to be targeting.
Daycare centers that are claiming that they're watching children all day that are non existent.
And then in the case of California, and this is what Nick Shirley found out, which I guess is why they want the Silence Nick Shirley Act, which is insane.
I mean, I think he's done us a great service, but also hospice care.
Now, where does that money come for hospice care for states like California?
Aren't there federal tax dollars involved?
Hospice care is almost all Medicare.
So think about this.
You're living in New Mexico, which is a blue state.
But not an affluent state.
And your tax bill comes due, and you've got to pay extra money.
Why?
Because your tax dollars are going to pay for the fraud that's taking place in Los Angeles.
That just doesn't sound very fair to me, you, or anybody else that's sitting right now.
But let's go over the numbers.
And Nick Shirley has done a fantastic job just showcasing what these people actually are thinking about when they're stealing money from our most vulnerable.
Remember, hospices for people who are predicted to die within six months.
There are 5,800 hospices in America, one third of them.
One third of all the hospices in America are in Los Angeles, not California, Los Angeles.
How many people are dying there?
I mean, think about this.
And what they allowed to happen was all the doctors got on board with looking the other way.
The county regulators, the attorney generals, all of these people are supposed to be policing the system.
They didn't care because the system itself was able to bring money into Los Angeles and is coming in from other states.
This hurts the system, it corrupts the system.
The fundamental safety net that we have built for America.
The country 60 years ago lost Medicare and Medicaid, these beautiful programs that are the crown jewels of our safe net system, on the belief that we had shared values, we would not take advantage of them.
So, Medicare was for people who retired.
Medicaid was for people who, Hubert Humphrey called them, people lived in the shadows, folks who had had trouble with their lives.
They had chronic illnesses.
They were just having difficulties.
They needed help.
That's what we do.
All great people help their most needy.
And so, we did that for 60 years.
And when COVID hit, somehow we lost our way.
And then we had an administration that wasn't interested in it.
It's not dissimilar from the border, by the way, Sean.
If you want to get people psyched up in the right way, the way that the president was able to fix the border almost immediately and drop it by 99%, the illegal immigration flow, we can fix corruption in America.
What you need is for people to focus on it and then allow those people to do their jobs.
So take hospice in Los Angeles.
We just talked about it.
We have now stopped payments to 400 hospices in Southern California.
400.
I mean, and this is what I don't think most people think about.
I mean, you mentioned Los Angeles and the high percentage.
It is really money that is being stolen.
I mean, to say that we could double the longevity of this program that so many Americans rely on and depend on just by eliminating waste, fraud, corruption, and abuse, that is so deep and so profound to me.
And it's like it's just outright stealing, and nobody seems to be held accountable.
Well, people are being held accountable now.
I hope you saw this bust we did out there with the great U.S. attorney in Los Angeles, Billy Asale.
But we took seven big frausters.
One of them I was able to attend pre dawn SWAT raid, husband wife couple living in a beautiful mansion in Los Angeles.
And he's a doctor and a nurse wife.
And they were quickly snapped up pre dawn hours.
And they didn't think anyone would ever come for them.
That couple was interviewed four years ago about.
The massive fraud they were perpetrating on the American people.
No one did anything.
So, what the president said, he called all the U.S. attorneys in and said, Guys, enough.
I want you guys focused on health care fraud.
It is a huge part of the epidemic of fraud we're facing in our country.
It represents probably half the money that's stolen in aggregate because the health care system is so big and it's become so easy to target the health care system by stealing beneficiary numbers.
Those are the numbers that all the folks on Medicare get.
There's probably 5 million of those numbers that have been stolen now.
And so you can create false bills.
And, Sean, where you live in South Florida, There are twice as many durable medical equipment suppliers using those stolen numbers than there are McDonald's.
Think about that.
Twice as many durable medical equipment suppliers selling wheelchairs and canes than McDonald's.
I mean, it's obviously fraud.
In South Florida, we think the Cuban government's involved.
In California, we have the Russian mafia.
In New York, you've got the Chinese involved.
I mean, we have foreign governments, we believe, getting involved now and large organized criminal syndicates pulling this money out.
And money laundering.
Is actually one of the ways that we can catch these guys.
That's why I said working closely with Treasury.
This is, by the way, an all of government approach, so the president wants everybody on board.
So when Scott Besson allows his forensic accountants to work through a problem with the U.S. attorney on a case that we've provided data on, you get answers.
You get answers very quickly.
You know, I just want people to understand this is something you're paying into.
This is money coming directly out of your pocket.
I would like to see states held accountable.
I don't have a lot of time left.
How can we hold the states that are allowing this?
Institutionalized fraud to continue, how did they get punished for doing so by not stopping the corruption?
Well, the day after the State of the Union, when the president announced the task force, the vice president and I had a press conference and announced a deferment of a quarter billion dollars just for the last quarter to Minnesota because the bills that they had sent didn't add up.
And so, one of the ways we do bring people to bear for their mistakes is to audit them and make sure they have backup.
And so, One by one, we're going to go through states that don't seem to be focused on this.
And I want to just give people, again, confidence because it's a good news story in many ways.
Look at Florida.
I wrote a letter to Governor DeSantis.
I said, We're going to audit you.
Accountability for States00:06:33
We want to know this and this and this.
And we had a national moratorium on these durable medical equipment suppliers that I mentioned earlier.
Governor DeSantis wrote back and said, Fine, I'll take that and I'll double down on it.
I want to have a ban on all durable medical equipment suppliers within our state on Medicaid.
That's how you react.
You don't run from the problem, you embrace it.
And so while Governor Newsom is off, you know, Talking about problems outside of his own state and not really addressing the fundamental crisis that they're facing, which of course hurts all the other 49 states.
You've got other governors taking this seriously and going after it.
And I think that's going to be a big issue over the next six months.
Are we able to figure out who's serious about this crisis and will deal with it and who's running from the problem because they were part of it?
All right, Dr. Mehmet Oz, we appreciate it.
Please stay on this.
This is too important.
There's too much money involved.
Dr. Mehmet Oz, thank you, sir.
One of the things that's happening in Virginia tomorrow is a redistricting vote, which we have been talking at length about.
And, you know, it's imperative if you're a Republican, they want to squeeze any chance that you could have any representation in Congress.
It's unbelievable.
You have Abigail Spanberger.
This is the biggest power grab ever.
Of any one state governor.
I mean, Trump got 46% of the vote, and she wants to go against, you know, a commission that put together districting inside of Virginia, and she wants all these liberal Democrats to take that away.
And then the ultimate result would be Democrats would end up with 10 safe congressional seats, Republicans would have one.
And yet Donald Trump got 46% of the vote.
Why do I bring this up?
Well, listen to the likes of James Carville.
He's telegraphing.
Where these lunatics will go if they ever get both houses of Congress and the presidency.
They would make Puerto Rico a state, D.C. a state, and of course, they would pack the Supreme Court.
He's saying it.
Listen to them when they say it.
If the Democrats win the presidency in both houses of Congress, I think on day one, they should make Puerto Rico, D.C. a state, and they should expand the Supreme Court to 13.
Eat our dust.
Yeah, there you go.
I mean, it couldn't be any more clear.
Listen to them.
All right, let's go to Todd in Texas.
Todd, how are you?
God bless Texas.
Happy Monday.
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean, how are you?
Appreciate you taking my call.
It's my pleasure.
What's going on?
You know, so Friday I was driving down to Houston for my son, and I came back and I'm listening to the radio, and all day I heard all this misinformation about what Trump was doing and money he was going to give to Iran.
And I just kind of thought for a moment, God, I wish I had the truth.
And there was this part of me that said, I wish we could actually have some kind of verify where Sean Hannity would say, this was actually said by Trump.
And the news media wouldn't actually just be able to say false stuff.
They could just say the truth.
And they could say, this was verified like you would on Twitter or on any other medium.
And, you know, to me, I read all the news.
I'm always paying attention.
But like, I feel like there's so much libel and misinformation given.
I just wonder, Sean, what are we going to do about all this stuff where we can actually tell the truth and not have?
People be misled by the media.
Well, I did that on Friday because I read directly from President Trump's own post.
I've heard the same rumors that you heard.
My phone was blowing up.
Why would Trump do this?
Why would he give the Iranians $20 billion?
And I'm like, yeah, that doesn't sound like Donald Trump to me.
Let's see what happens.
Oh, well, you have the best.
And then he posted that he's not doing it.
And I'm captive in the car.
I'm driving like I'm captive for four hours.
And I'm thinking, that doesn't sound like the Donald Trump.
I know.
You know him way better than I do, but like to me as a just a constituent, I'm thinking, God, how can they say this stuff on the news when it's totally false?
There's got to be some better way where we could verify this libel that they're giving.
Well, if you were in the car listening to this show on Friday, I was reading directly from the president's own, you know, truth posts, and he said, no, it's not true.
I'm not giving them $20 billion.
I'm not doing it.
I know, and it sounds crazy even to think it, but so many people believe that it's just like, oh, that's what he's doing.
It's crazy.
The worst part is, I spent half my day Friday dealing with people on our side saying, What the hell is he doing?
You need to call him.
You need to talk to him.
You need to tell him.
First of all, Donald Trump makes up his own mind.
And if he really thought it was a good deal, I'd like to hear his rationale behind it.
I can't think of circumstances where that would be a good deal.
I know what the president's trying to do here, but the president was very clear today.
He doesn't care if they get a deal or not.
It just may take a little bit longer than we had hoped, but he's going to get the nuclear dust and he's going to open the Strait of Hormuz.
And if it takes more bombing to wake these idiots up in Iran, then it's going to take more bombing.
And I want this to be over as soon as possible.
However, the success of the mission has to transcend any other consideration, in my view.
And winning, and we define winning very clearly here.
How would I define winning?
Getting the nuclear dust, which was the number one priority of the president, having the straight open, free flow of oil at market prices.
And then, you know what?
We've done that was the president's mission degrading their ability to have ballistic missiles, making the world a safer place for our children and grandchildren.
And it's hard to talk to stupid, ignorant people that just completely.
The president even addressed the insanity on a truth post.
And I said right away, all these people peddling this lie, Donald Trump did this for Israel and BB Netanyahu, and he's just BB's puppet, or he did it because of Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Fox News.
It has never been true.
As a matter of fact, some of the people peddling those lies, I know for a fact.
I wasn't in the Oval Office giving the president my opinion on what he should do before Operation Epic Fury.
But I know people on the other side that were.
They were sitting right before him.
And they just, I think, they're more angry that he didn't listen to them.
And at the end of the day, I've always known that Trump will follow, you know, he's got good instincts.
And in the end, he's going to make up his own mind.
He's a man of his own mind.
Linda's New York Accent00:04:43
Anyway, Todd, listen to this show more.
We're trying to help you out.
We have been right more often than not.
Going back to my days with Richard Jewell, Duke Lacrosse, UVA, Ferguson, Missouri, hands up, don't shoot, Freddie Gray, Baltimore, George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin.
We were right about the Russia hoax.
We were right about the Ukraine impeachment.
We were right about FISA abuse.
We were right about weaponization of justice and an 11 year conspiracy to destroy this man.
We've been right, and everyone in the media has been wrong.
Am I ever going to get credit for it?
No.
But whatever.
Eileen, Ohio, the Buckeye State.
Happy Monday, Eileen.
How are you?
I'm good, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm glad you called.
Hope you had a great weekend.
I did.
I did.
We have a beautiful Monday here, and I appreciate the opportunity to talk to you as a second time caller.
I love your show, and I'm going to give you credit for being right most of the time because I believe you are.
I should tell you, I am an.
Since there's a but coming, I don't know why.
My years of experience tell me there's a but coming.
Go ahead.
There's a but coming.
I'm a native New Yorker.
I lived on Long Island for over 30 years.
And you might want to hear this, Sean, but Linda is right.
It is pronounced silver palate sauce.
No, you don't pronounce sauce.
That is a New York way of saying it.
That's.
Like there are people that famously refer to.
Pasta sauce as gravy.
It's not gravy.
It's pasta sauce.
It's not sauce.
It's not coffee.
It's not talk radio.
It's not Sean.
And it's not New York.
That's not how most people in the country talk.
It is a New York accent.
And I happen to like accents.
I just like to give Linda a hard time about it.
You know, I love it when you and Linda have that lighthearted banter back and forth because you deal with such serious topics that can be so upsetting that it's really a nice break.
And I thank Linda for tolerating you at times.
What do you mean, Linda?
What about me tolerating her?
She's doing my whole Monday.
I am the boss.
You know that.
No, I am the boss.
You are the talent.
And you should be grateful you're the talent.
God blessed you with so much.
It's a wonderful thing to be the talent.
Okay.
But ultimately, it's called the Sean Hannity Show.
And I am the boss of the Sean Hannity Show.
And you work for the Sean Hannity Show, which makes you subordinate to me, the host.
That's a stretch.
But I'll let you have it for now.
Sean, I could say that I am the boss because that is my maiden name.
Actually, I could say that everyone in this audience is the boss because if you stop listening, which I don't want people to ever do, I won't have a show.
So I need to shut up and realize who the real boss is.
What's your maiden name?
My maiden name is Boss.
Oh, I thought you were going to say your maiden name was Hannity.
I'm like, no way.
Like Hugo Boss.
That's right.
That's right.
But I wanted to give you a little bit of a ribbing there because I love it when you and Linda go back and forth.
I'm going to continue saying sauce.
Listen, for everybody that lives in the South and Midwest, trust me, they're all.
They think that Linda does talk funny and that they hear the New York accent.
And, you know, when I'm tired, my New York accent kind of kicks back in.
And by the way, in case you're not aware, Eileen, you have a New York accent.
So no wonder why you would agree with Linda on pasta sauce because you lived in New York.
She actually has a mix.
She has a little bit of a Boston there, too.
I don't know what it is.
People tell me all that.
I lived in New York until I was well over 30.
And I know I have an accent because people tell me all the time.
And I have siblings that live on Long Island.
Talk to them at reinforces.
Oh, 100%.
I was as bad as you when I was in Huntsville, Alabama, and Atlanta, Georgia.
I didn't even realize until people kept pointing it out that I had a pretty thick New York accent.
I worked at limiting it.
Linda, by annoying me, brings out more of it.
Eileen, we love you.
You have a great day.
God bless you.
God bless Ohio.
All right, let's get back to our busy telephones.
It's 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Gino, Nevada.
Next, Sean Hannity Show.
Happy Monday.
Thank you, Sean.
Thank you for everything you do, and thank you for taking my call.
My point is I really believe that the liberals constantly try to segregate this country as much as possible.
Iranian Arms Integrity00:03:42
And I understand that there's a decision coming down from the Supreme Court that addresses this redrawing of state maps due to this racial gerrymandering.
Of black and Latino voters.
And if the court makes the right decision, what could this mean for the Republican Party?
I think that decision should be a no brainer.
I think equal, you know, there's been a false narrative that has been pushed by the left that, for example, go back to Jim Crow 2.0.
What did that originally begin in?
That began in Georgia when Governor Kemp was putting election integrity measures in place.
And this is going to prevent minorities in Georgia from voting.
And then we had an election, and there were more minorities that turned out than ever before.
So it was a lie.
Just like the Save Hacked.
You know, Jim Crow 2.0, Chucky Schumer said Democrats, they just don't want voter integrity.
And the only reason I can think of that they don't is they want the ability to cheat.
Because otherwise, voter ID, signature verification, pain of custody controls of any mail in ballots, limiting mail in ballots, paper ballots, you know, all things that would bring integrity to the process, confidence, and results, they don't want.
Why don't they want it?
I can only think of one reason.
Because it doesn't benefit them politically.
Now they want to gerrymander seats to such an extent that it guarantees them a majority in Congress.
We have to prevent it.
We have to fight.
And I'm hoping that the Supreme Court will not allow this scheme of theirs to work.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, Gino.
Good call.
Brad, Utah, next.
Sean Hannity's show.
Where in Utah are you, sir?
I'm in Spanish Fork.
Nice.
I hope there's a Crownburger there.
No, Sean, hey, buddy, you got to come out of your comfort zone.
It's Burger Supreme and Provo.
No, it's Crown Burger.
You're never going to talk me out of it.
It's great.
Oh, buddy.
I do like In-Out Burger, too, but I like Crown Burger, and I like In-Out Burger.
That's it.
But I'm willing to try your place.
I'll give it a shot.
Okay.
Good, because we've got to change you.
What's going on?
To the good life, Sean.
Okay.
Question is: A few weeks into the war, I don't know exactly the timeframe, but President Trump made the statement that the Iranian people would get a signal as to.
When to move forward.
And I know he hasn't forgotten about them, but what's going to become, because eventually this war is going to end, not in Iran's favor, but what's the Iranian people going to do?
Because, in my opinion.
I think you're right.
Listen, I hope that I know there have been attempts, and I don't want to divulge sources here, to get arms in the hands of the Iranian people.
It is.
Turned out to be more difficult than maybe some anticipated.
I hope ultimately, you know, you got to understand you can't win a sling, you can't win a revolution with a slingshot.
So the people would have to get armed so that they'd have the ability to stand up to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards forces.
That would be the ultimate outcome to me.
And it's just a matter of if they can pull that off.
It was not part of the president's original plan.
I think we need to be very clear on that and taking away their ability to.
Foment terrorism, their ballistic missile capability, and obviously their nuclear capability.
So, you know, he's achieving, set out to achieve.
And that's the important part.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
800 941 Sean, our number if you want to be a part of the program.