Border Security, Terror Threats, and the Immigration Reckoning
Sean Hannity and Mark Morgan condemn the Biden administration for lying about border security, citing 221,000 recent crossings and 1.8 million apprehensions since October 2021 as proof of a national security crisis involving unvetted migrants from terror-linked nations like Iran. They argue that defunding DHS and allowing illegal voting undermines constitutional authority, while callers discuss Senate procedural risks and potential military action against Iran. Ultimately, the segment frames the immigration reckoning as an existential threat requiring immediate enforcement to prevent further radicalization and instability within the United States. [Automatically generated summary]
And we have been warning on this program that there are two big lies.
Well, there's numerous big lies of the Biden administration, but the two biggest is that Joe was cognitively aware.
That was one.
The other big lie was the border's secure, the border's closed.
The border's secure, the border's closed.
Just a reminder, listen.
The United States will continue to enforce our laws and secure our border.
The border is in fact secure.
A record 221,000 migrants crossed into the U.S. last month.
Our border is secure.
We believe certainly that the border is secure.
1,300 migrants a day.
We have taken unprecedented action over the past year and a half to secure our border and rebuild a safer and orderly process system.
This year is on pace to be the deadliest year for migrants crossing into this region of Texas in recent memory.
The border is secure.
The border is secure, and the border is not open.
Crossings are still at an all-time high, with Border Patrol reporting more than 1.8 million apprehensions from October 2021 through July.
The border remains closed.
It is not open.
We are turning away the majority of adults, but we are unprecedented.
The border is secure.
The border is closed.
So we are offering solutions.
That's what the Biden-Harris administration has been doing since day one.
This is worse now than it was before.
A record number of migrants this year, and the total could surpass 2 million by the end of September.
We're certainly doing a lot more to secure the border.
We have a secure border.
And we have a process in place to manage migrants at the border.
A record surge of migrants in New York City.
Border was never secure.
We showed you images almost every night on TV.
Christopher Wray, now, I always thought watching Christopher Wray go up to Congress and talk to Congress, I always felt everything was a CYA watching him.
And I said so at the time.
This is Christopher Wray warning of the threat of terrorists coming across the southern border.
Well, did he see what we saw, that the borders were wide open?
You know, he is the FBI director.
You think he would have, you know, sounded the alarm a little louder than this, but this is what he said then.
Staying on threats emanating from the border, I have warned for some time now about the threat that foreign terrorists may seek to exploit our southwest border or some other port of entry to advance a plot against Americans.
Just last month, for instance, the Bureau and our Joint Terrorism Task Forces worked with ICE in multiple cities across the country as several individuals with suspected international terrorist ties were arrested using ISIS immigration authorities.
Leading up to those arrests, hundreds of FBI employees dedicated countless hours to understand the threat and identify additional individuals of concern.
Now, the physical security of the border is, of course, not in the FBI's lane.
But as the threat has escalated, we're working with our partners in law enforcement and the intelligence community to find and stop foreign terrorists who would harm Americans and our interests.
As concerning as the known or suspected terrorists encountered at the border are, perhaps even more concerning are those we do not yet know about because they provided fake documents or because we didn't have information connecting them to terrorism at the time they arrived in the United States.
Now, ABC, I told you this story yesterday, has in fact confirmed that they believe that intercepts now show that the Iranians have, especially after the death of the quote,
supreme leader, Ali Khamani, have sent out the message to any sleeper cells within our borders that now would be the time to go forward with their fatwas, their attacks against Americans.
Now, we've had a lot of incidences, yet to have any examples of any foreign-born terrorists yet, but we saw what happened in New York over the weekend.
You had these, you know, again, these are Americans, but they had been ISIS-inspired, throwing IEDs, wanting to carry out an attack bigger than the Boston Marathon bombing.
You had that deadly Austin shooting that killed three with this guy property of Allah and Iranian flags at home.
You had the incident, you know, 30 minutes into a flight, passengers said attendants began running up and down the aisle, made an announcement because a bullet had been discovered on a commercial jet at a major airport sparking that security scare.
Kansas City Airport reopened after an evacuation as potential threats are investigated.
Here's the problem.
We had over 12 million, we don't know the exact number, unvetted Biden-Harris-Mayorkis illegals from over 200 countries, including countries with known terror ties.
Egypt, Muslim Brotherhood, Iran itself.
We have had Iranians, and we know there are known terrorists in the country.
We just don't know where all of them are.
And I know that under Biden and Mayorkas and Harris and Merrick Garland, that they were too busy investigating anybody that dared to criticize zero experience Hunter.
But the fact and the reality is that they have created the most preventable national security crisis in our country.
And Donald Trump's trying to clean up this mess, as is Kash Patel, as is the DOJ.
And I don't know if we'll ever be able to remove the threat that they have allowed into our country.
Anyway, here to weigh in on this, and more former FBI, former acting commissioner of CBP, Mark Morgan, is with us.
To me, this is the most preventable national security disaster in history.
And I think one day we will pay a very dear price for it.
We already paid a price.
We've had murderers, rapists, child molesters, other violent criminals, drug dealers, cartel members, all being deported by Trump.
And, of course, ICE agents criticized for doing their job.
Sean, look, I couldn't agree more.
There's a great lead up to this.
And this is why we've been saying for a very long time that border security is synonymous with national security.
And to your point, how long is it going to take?
We saw the threat that was unleashed during the Biden administration.
And I think that we're going to be paying that for generations.
And to your point about Christopher Wray, look, he went on and on.
He and the greater U.S. intelligence community, Sean, said that the U.S. is facing the most complex and elevated terrorism threat since 9-11.
They actually described it as a, quote, rogues gallery of foreign terrorist organization calling for attacks against the U.S.
They go on, Sean.
They're talking about that lone actors in small cells, you know, that are the most concerning because they can move from ideology to radicalization to action at the speed of social media.
And that's some of what we've already been seeing the past few days.
And here's my issue with Ray, to your point, Sean, is, but then he says, his catch-all is, he says all this, how enormous this threat is, how our national security is being impacted by the border.
But he says, but physical security isn't in the FBI lane.
Sean, I'm going to call BS on that.
Of course, it's in every federal law enforcement national security agency.
You don't get to say, okay, well, this is another department's lane.
This is another agency's lane.
That's not how it works.
That's in part how 9-11 happened, right?
So I think your point is well valid.
And I think we're seeing a sea shift right now under the second administration of Trump, where now that's stopped.
We're seeing the Department of War.
We're seeing the FBI.
We're seeing all these organizations collectively get involved to attack the threat.
Well, I don't know what we can do other than what the FBI is doing, Homeland Security is doing, ICE is doing, the Department of Justice is doing.
I mean, it's pretty amazing what they were able to accomplish in 2025 alone, where over 2,100 either convicted or charged illegal immigrant murderers that were charged with or convicted of killing Americans were captured.
Over 5,400 charged or convicted of raping or other violent sexual crimes against American citizens, the illegals.
You know, they were captured.
Known terrorists have been deported.
Other criminals have been deported.
And for doing so, look at the criticism.
With all the criticism, all right, you can be as critical as you want of ICE, but they've been arresting the worst of the worst.
None of these people, there were 12 people shot in Chicago last week and six that were murdered, six that were killed.
Do you think any of these people on the left know the names of any of those people shot or shot and killed?
You know, look, Sean, of course not.
You and I have been, we've been covering this for a very long time.
But here's a couple things.
And both these things can be true.
The first year, what we're calling phase one of the interior enforcement operations, I think what you said is exactly right.
There are fewer criminals today, illegal alien criminals today than there were a year ago.
That's a fact.
Because of that, because of President Trump's efforts in this phase one, we're calling it, city streets are safer now than they were a year ago, full stop.
But here's what we're saying.
We're calling for phase two, right?
We're calling that we have to open up the aperture well beyond just the worst of the worst, well beyond just criminal, illegal aliens.
And here's why.
It's to your point in this monologue in the beginning.
I'll give you an example.
So you said, you know, 10 to 14 million that the Biden administration let in.
That's right.
Well, here's a part of this, is that there were 2 million known and unknown gotaways.
2 million, Sean, that entered the country that we never made contact with.
We don't know anything about.
But again, you already mentioned it, to your point, from 163 different countries, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, China, Syria, Lebanon, and Iran.
We call them special interest aliens.
We know that they come from countries that harbor support and facilitate terrorism.
And something that Director Ray said is that, look, just because someone is not on the terror watch list, right, doesn't mean that they're not a terrorist.
It means we just didn't have the connection at the time.
And so that's why we have to open up this aperture to continue to go after every single illegal aliens here.
Because at the end, one of the best ways, you know, there's an old saying, for every step forward, you take one back.
We've got to send the message to the cartels of the entire world that if you come to the country illegally, you're going to be removed.
The only way to send that is we have to make sure that we're prioritizing every single person that's in the country illegally.
All right, quick break more with Mark Morgan, former FBI, former acting commissioner of CBP on the other side.
Then your calls are coming up, 800-941-Sean, our number if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, no final moments.
Mark Morgan is with us, former FBI, former acting commissioner of CBP.
Here's the amazing thing with that montage I played, borders closed, borders secure.
The truth is, now it is closed.
It was something that we were very easily able to accomplish if they had the will to do it.
Not only did they not do it, they lied about it.
And Chuck Schumer's answer recently was, well, I'm hoping that 11 million can be given citizenship.
I'm like, really?
So you will reward people that don't respect our laws, our borders, our sovereignty.
You know, Mark, I don't care.
I believe in immigration.
I'm the product of immigration.
My grandparents came here, all four of them from Ireland at the turn of the last century, all four of them.
But they came here legally.
They came through Ellis Island.
I have all the documentation.
I have it framed.
And the frustrating part to me is that if you let people in illegally, you can't vet them.
We need to know you don't have radical associations.
After COVID, maybe a health check would be warranted.
Number three, you can't come into our country and then be a financial burden on our country, which is why states like California, the sanctuary state of California, is going broke.
Highest gas sales and income taxes.
And yet there's still, what, $18 to $35 billion in the hole this year.
I mean, explain that one because they are providing health care, education, et cetera, other services for illegals.
They can't afford it.
And the people are leaving in droves as a result.
Yeah, so look, everything you just mentioned, right, from the fact, think about this, just from a common sense perspective.
And this is where that montage, you know how to get me fired up because it was just blatant lies.
And let's just talk, first of all, everything you said is spot on, but let's just take your first comment about unvetted.
I want your listeners to let that sink in.
The Biden administration let in 10 to 14 million, of which the overwhelming majority, we had no ability to vet them.
We didn't know if what the name they're giving us was accurate or not.
We had no idea to bet them.
I'll give you a quick example.
So we get a single adult male of military age from Lebanon.
Do you think we're able to reach out to the Lebanese government and say, hey, we just want to make sure before we let him in the country that he's not a member of Hezbollah?
Of course, it wasn't happening.
But yet it was happening every single day.
And the Biden administration was letting that individual in the country.
That's insanity to me.
Plus all the other financial things that you mentioned.
But here's what I think critically important when we take a look at this is that we, again, part of the process has to be we have to open up this aperture.
We have to go after the 1.5 million illegal aliens with a removal order from a judge.
We have to go after the hundreds of thousands of these overstates.
We have to go over American employers who are knowingly hiring illegal aliens so they can pay them cheap wages to marginalize an already marginalized U.S.-born workforce.
This is antithetical to our Constitutional Republic.
If we, if it's an executive branch, Sean, if we don't fully enforce the laws passed by Congress, we're literally weakening the authority of Congress and increasing the authority of the executive branch, which is not what the Constitutional Republic is designed around.
Oh, I'll tell you, the American people need to be very, very aware of this threat.
And I don't know how you ultimately resolve it because we don't know where these people are.
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And they let them in, and they did it purposely.
Anyway, we appreciate you, Mark Morgan.
Thank you for being with us.
Your phone call is coming up next, toll-free.
Our number is 800-941-SEAN if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's get to the callers, Linda.
Is that how you say qualers or the callers?
You finally got it right.
Good for you.
I knew one day you'd get there.
Say, callers.
Call us.
Say, talk radio.
The callers are calling into a talk radio show hosted by Sean Hannity.
You're welcome.
And what do I like to drink that's hot in the morning?
I don't know.
Do you still drink it or are you drinking Celsius?
No, no, no.
I drink both.
Silver pilot pasta.
If you're drinking that in the morning, silver palette pasta sauce.
No.
Sensei's going to be like, wow, you are on fire today.
What do I drink in the morning?
Coffee.
Wow.
Hey, did you see the news that Stephen A. made on the podcast?
He made a lot of news on the podcast.
He made a lot of news.
He's not running for president.
I am not giving up my money.
It's so funny.
Earlier in the podcast, he starts in, and the part of me, I'd love to be on that stage.
I'm like, you run, I'm running.
I'm not letting you up on that stage alone.
I'm going to be standing right next to you.
It was just a lot of fun.
And then, you know, I guess it's out, but I talked about who he likes in 28, and he likes Westmore, and he likes Josh Shapiro.
Now, I would argue that the Democratic Party is so extreme, they can't get elected.
And then I said, if there's any other Democrat out there you'd support, no, he goes, the next person I would absolutely support is Marco Rubio.
What did you think of that?
Well, we have it.
We're actually going to play it.
Name three people in your head right now that you'd vote for for president.
20 like it.
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You won't like it.
I don't care.
I'd vote for Westmore.
Target in Maryland.
I'd vote for Josh Shapiro, governor of Pennsylvania.
I'd vote for Marco Rubio.
Okay.
Talk about what is it about Marco?
He's an adult in the room.
There is no questioning his qualifications.
If it's Marco and anyone other than Wes and Josh, you vote for Marco over the Democrat?
Yes.
Over Newsom?
Yes.
Over Kamala?
Yes.
I vote for Marco Rubio over anybody that's out there right now other than Wesmore or Josh Shapiro.
Pretty amazing, right?
The idea that he thinks that Josh Shapiro should be anything other than a dog catcher is very concerning.
I don't even know if I'd say.
I'll say that as a citizen of Pennsylvania.
Yeah, because I know he's a scumbag.
That guy should never be anywhere near 1600 Pennsylvania.
His biggest problem within his own party is he's just out of touch with his own party.
I mean, we just had John Fetterman on earlier today.
He's not out of touch with his own party.
He's out of touch with all parties.
He's got one party.
It's called the Shapiro party.
Oh, Shapiro you're talking about.
Okay.
All right, let's go to Aaron in Texas.
What's going on, Aaron?
How are you?
God bless Texas.
Glad you called, sir.
I'm doing good.
How are you doing this afternoon, sir?
I'm good.
What's going on?
I've got a question.
I'll let's talk about the SAVE Act and that.
And I hear people talking about the talking filibuster and reconciliation.
And I'm sure there's a lot of people in the country might not be as fine-tuned on this information as what you are.
I've heard of the filibuster before, but I've never heard it phrased as the talking filibuster.
So can you kind of clarify those two things, reconciliation and the talking filibuster?
Okay, you're asking a lot of different questions here.
The talking filibuster, usually if you threaten a filibuster, that means that what would happen is, and this is the downside of a talking filibuster, and there is a downside to it.
And I know that the White House, I know that the Senate, they're having conversations as we speak about the upside, the downside.
It's definitely coming up for a vote in the Senate.
I don't want to get too involved or pushy, but my attitude has been force them into a talking filibuster.
But here's the downside.
A talking filibuster means you can talk, as long as you want.
And then at some point, you have to relinquish control.
Here's the problem with that.
Then Democrats have control of the Senate floor.
What does that mean in practicality?
It means that they can then force a series of votes that they deem will put Republicans on record in a midterm election year, like expanding subsidies for Obamacare, other controversial bills that they think will help them in a general election.
And it could go on for months on end in reality, in all truth.
It is more complicated than the way some people are describing it.
It's not something that will happen quickly.
I know the president has leaned both ways on it, even though more publicly he's been outspoken saying, do it, force the talking filibuster.
I won't support any legislation unless you do.
I don't know how this is going to play out.
I would like to see the Republicans in the Senate fight, but it's not as simple as some people are describing it.
That's all I'm saying.
As it relates to reconciliation, that is where you can bypass cloture, which is the need for 60 votes for a bill to move forward if it has to do with issues involving finance.
They did this successfully with the one big, beautiful bill.
Obama did it successfully to pass Obamacare.
I mean, you're dealing with a bureaucratic, you know, technicalities, left, right, and sideways, which is kind of the way the Senate, unfortunately, was designed to work to be the more, quote, as they call it, deliberating body and versus the House of Representatives, driven by more raw motion of the day, of the moment, et cetera.
But it is more complicated than people know.
Now, you do have another option, and that is to eliminate the filibuster altogether.
I can just tell you this part of it, forget about whether you like the idea or don't like the idea.
The votes aren't there for it.
It's not even close.
I think the last whip count on that issue was 25.
Now, does that mean that people shouldn't call their senator and contact him?
They can, and they should.
But, you know, for the Democrats to be against proof of citizenship and voter ID, just like they have in the middle of a war defunded the Department of Homeland Security, including that includes TSA, that includes the Coast Guard, that includes Secret Service, that includes FEMA, is unconscionable to me.
The party of defund, dismantled, no bail laws, the party to reimagine the police, the party of open borders, amnesty, sanctuary cities and states, the people that lied to us about 12-plus million unvetted illegals in the country, the party that voted for the largest tax increase in history when they had a chance to stand up for working men and women and the elderly and vote for the one big beautiful bill,
but they hate Donald Trump more than they care about working men and women in this country.
One last point, too, on this.
You know, Republicans, beyond everything else, and the argument is, I'm just giving you all sides of the argument so you understand it because you're asking Aaron really good questions, is that there are Republicans in very marginal seats that we must win in November.
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And if they're forced to take controversial votes, the fear is the argument is, believe it, not believe it, I don't care, that that could sink their reelection campaigns.
And that's the battle that's going on between the White House and Republicans in the Senate.
And I hope it comes out the right way because we do need the SAVE Act for sure.
I hope that answers your question.
Joel in my free state of Florida, how are you, sir?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Good to hear from you and talk to you.
I have a couple questions.
Now, I know that we don't want to put ground troops in Iran, but the Strait of Hormouth basically is about, what, 21 miles long and about two miles wide when it goes to the Gulf of Oman, which is near Iran.
And then you have the Shag Island and the Hormuz Island.
And I think eventually if, you know, when the war is over or the conflict is over, that there's going to have to be something there to protect the Strait of Hormuth because we can't have it blocked off.
It's like having a— Well, the president said we're going to hit them 10 times harder if they pull that crap on us because you're looking at 35 percent of the world's oil supply passing through there.
Now, I am a firm believer that this is going to end very quickly.
And, you know, if we have the right partnership, what I'm hoping for, I think a best outcome for the U.S. would be a situation similar to Venezuela, where the new leader, the former vice president, now in charge, has partnered with the U.S.
They are exclusively our trading partner.
They are giving us their oil, and we are giving them money back in return.
And we are also getting some for ourselves.
And they also have the protection and free and fair trade status with the U.S.
It's a win-win for them.
And Cuba, as I said at the beginning of the program today, is now negotiating their freedom.
I mean, these are incredible strides the president is making only because of the real force of nature that is Donald J. Trump.
And I admire it.
But the president's been very clear.
The Iranians have a history of mining, for example, the Straits of Hormuz to disrupt the free flow of oil at market prices.
That's what they like doing.
Actually, I think Russia will benefit from the U.S. keeping those straits open in the end.
So we'll see how supportive of the Supreme Leader's son.
By the way, the Supreme Leader, I mentioned this earlier.
The Supreme Leader didn't want his son to secede him in becoming the Supreme Leader.
Thought he was too pathetically weak and did nothing in his life.
Thought he was a complete loser.
Did you read, Linda, that this new Supreme Leader, the son of the old Supreme Leader, apparently went for months-long treatment because he couldn't have children in London or something?
I heard he had a bad case of the ED.
Poor guy.
Is that what it was?
Was it ED?
It was.
Yeah, he was being treated for impotency.
Impeticism.
What do I know about these things?
I don't have these problems.
I don't know.
Good for you, Sean.
Doctor.
That's right.
Although we should do a Dr. Hannity one day if we get time.
All right, back to our busy phones.
Thanks, Noel, for a good call.
We appreciate it.
Mike in San Diego, Cogo Radio.
Have you ever been to the Del Caronado?
Just to visit.
Just a visit.
Okay, but it's one of the nicest hotels ever, right?
Oh, yeah.
I went down there with my family during the winter.
They got an ice skating rink on the sand.
Can you imagine sending as a gift for somebody getting a really prestigious award, this person and their family, and all you get is nonstop complaints for sending them on a free trip?
Could you imagine that?
No, I can't imagine that at all.
It's hard to imagine.
All the way from the East Coast all the way to the West Coast, and you get nothing but complaints.
You know, that happened once in my life.
Linda, remember?
You might recall that.
No, I don't think I do.
It doesn't ring a bell at all.
I don't think I'll be able to do that.
No bells.
Anyway, Mike, what's on your mind?
Going back to Aaron's call earlier about the Save America Act, you know, I just don't have the warm fuzzies in my heart that the Republicans are going to get this thing passed.
I feel like the squishy Republicans have, using the football analogy, have turned the ball over, and now the Democrats are just running the clock out.
You know, I wish more people would pay attention.
There's one other option, which I didn't bring up in my analysis, John Kennedy's option, which is to include it in reconciliation, but that would need some type of money hook to it.
And there's a way to do that, but then to mandate states to adopt it, I would think the blue states, I mean, that could be complicated too.
I have spoken to more people about this.
I saw Mike Lee over the week.
I was talking to him about it.
And I just want this thing done.
It needs to be done.
We need voter integrity.
We cannot have illegals or people without voter ID voting in our elections.
We need to establish election integrity.
That's what I've been thinking about.
I just don't see it happening before the midterms, and they're going to run the clock out.
Well, there'll definitely be a vote on it, and you'll know where the Democrats stand, and there'll be the party against it.
But that doesn't fix it.
I want it fixed.
And that's my goal.
And I'm hoping that they can find a way.
And I'm not putting a hammer on everybody, not acknowledging the difficulty in it, putting aside the act of courage it would take to hand over the Senate floor for however many months to Chucky Schumer.
I know what the Democrats will do.
We've got to win this election.
That's all I can tell you.
This midterm is critical.
You've got to main control.
I'm going to start naming states.
We got to hold North Carolina.
We got to take back Georgia.
We got to hold Maine.
Michigan is a possible pickup state.
We've got to win these Senate races.
They're huge for us.
Anyway, we'll talk more about that as time goes on.
I promise.
Okay, my friend?
Sure.
Thanks for your call.
Thank you.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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People do not understand exactly what the Iranians told us.
One, they could enrich uranium within a month or less.
And then they were offered all the civilian uranium for free in perpetuity.
I'm going to get into a longer explanation, and then Lindsey Graham wants to respond to that.
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