Sanctuary Cities, Selective Outrage, and the Cost of Open Borders
In Hour 2, Sean Hannity is joined by Congressman Chip Roy as they examine the coordinated resistance against federal immigration enforcement. Sean lays out the chilling pattern of selective moral outrage—why some victims are ignored while others are politicized—and details the criminal records of illegal immigrants arrested in Minnesota. The conversation zeroes in on how encrypted networks, activist coordination, and political incitement are undermining public safety and the rule of law across America.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm trained to wait for the facts to come in, and I'm going to let the law enforcement officials do their after-action review, follow all the procedures to make sure they know the facts that led to the shooting.
I'm talking about what led to them, and it's very clearly the Democrats in Minneapolis and Minnesota Democrats across the country.
They're inflaming tensions that led to the situation where these agitators put themselves in.
And this goes to the timeline that I discussed in great specificity and detail in the last hour.
This did not happen in a vacuum.
It happened first by allowing and lying about unfettered immigration into this country, frankly, an invasion.
And oh, no, the border's closed.
The border is secure.
No, it wasn't.
Known terrorists, murderers, rapists, other violent criminals made it into our country.
And now the difficult job of removing them, finding them, identifying them has begun.
And, you know, the list that we have been going through of criminals that, you know, the worst of the worst that have been captured in Minnesota, you'd think people would be grateful for that.
They're not.
You know, but Tim Walz is out there, you know, comparing it to the diary of Ann Frank, calling ICE agents Gestapo, you know, Mayor Small Fry, get the F out of Minneapolis.
And meanwhile, federal authorities, federal law enforcement has jurisdiction to enforce federal law.
And whatever you think, whatever the outcome of the shooting is, put all of that aside.
As somebody that has had a pistol carry permit in six states in our country and is trained with the use and safety of a firearm, and this person had every right to have a firearm, but you don't engage in protests with law enforcement knowing you have that firearm with you.
And I'm not blaming.
It's a tragedy.
It shouldn't happen.
We don't want people dead.
I believe I'm pro-life.
And you don't aim a car at a law enforcement agent and accelerate.
That's never going to end well.
And then to have the tensions and the incitement, the inflamed by elected officials, you know, and this is where the feigned selective moral outrage comes in that are silent about all the people that on a regular basis are shot and shot and killed every weekend in Chicago and in New York and in San Francisco, et cetera.
You don't know those people's names because they can't weaponize this politically.
And that's another dark part of this.
Now, in spite of Tim Walz and the president having a good call today, you know, he this not only comparing ICE agents, you know, to Gestapo again and again and again, now he's saying quit referring to ICE as law enforcement.
Listen.
I ask Americans, this will end when enough Americans say this will end.
Do I have any confidence Donald Trump will do the right thing?
No, I don't have a lot of confidence Donald Trump will do the right thing.
I do have a lot of confidence that the majority of the American people will do the right thing.
And I think there cannot be very many people across this country looking right now after all the reporting that's been done, after everything that's been said under the pretense that they are here about immigration reform.
And quit referring to these people as law enforcement.
They are not law enforcement.
We have law enforcement who do an incredible job.
And to listen to Greg Bavino denigrate the work of our people who are out there cleaning up their mess.
No, I don't have a lot of confidence that he himself will do it.
I have pages and pages and pages of the worst illegals arrested in Minnesota.
Everything from homicide to murder to criminal sexual assault to child sexual assault, domestic violence, drugs, DUI, you name it, conspiracy to import drugs into the country, forgery, more homicide, more assaults, more rape.
And the list goes on and on.
That was done by the very law enforcement that he's demonizing as Gestapo.
And you cannot convince me and will never convince me that this incitement to humanizing rhetoric that have been used for political purposes has not basically pouring gasoline on this on everything that's been going on in Minneapolis.
This did not happen in a vacuum.
They allowed this situation to unfold.
They allowed these people in the country.
They offered them sanctuary status like in Minnesota and sanctuary state protections.
This is a guy that won a taxpayer-funded college tuition for illegals.
His running mate wanted taxpayer-funded sex change operations for illegals.
And they just said, no, no, the border's secure.
The border's closed.
We have all the images to prove otherwise.
Chip Roy, running for AG in the great state of Texas, sir.
How are you?
Doing great, Sean.
A little cold, but you're probably a little colder.
But actually, you're probably doing fine.
You don't want to know the temperature here right now.
You really don't.
If you're asking, I'll be glad to share it with you.
I don't really mind.
But yeah, I did not have this problem at all this weekend.
As a matter of fact, it's now 86 degrees where I am.
Sorry.
Well, normally in Austin, we do pretty well, but we got a little bit of cold down here, but we'll warm up.
But praying for the people of Nashville and all the people across the country that got hit pretty hard.
I agree.
I'm praying for everybody, and especially people that are without power and people that are struggling.
So let's get your take on everything that's been unfolding in Minnesota.
And more importantly, I think I'm the only one that's out here saying, excuse me, this demonization of federal law enforcement agents that are doing their job and arresting the worst of the worst, you know, has contributed to this.
It has whipped people, you know, into a frenzy and these confrontations with law enforcement officials now, you know, this is a predictable outcome of this is what if this is what elected officials are going to do.
Sean, you're exactly right.
You know, when I'm, I went on Fox on Saturday evening after these events unfolded, and obviously they're tragic events and we don't want them to occur, as you said in your opening monologue.
And the fact is this environment was created by Governor Walls, by the leadership of the city of Minneapolis, by the radical leftists across the country, Democratic colleagues in Congress, who have been saying absurd things like you just noted where Wall said these, you know, oh, ICE is not law enforcement.
They have undermined the whole ability of ICE to be able to do what they're supposed to do under the law, under the Constitution, to secure communities and to work with local law enforcement to root out the worst offenders.
You rattled off a list.
There are dozens of examples, probably hundreds of the people.
No, there are hundreds and hundreds that they've arrested inside of Minnesota.
Hundreds, thousands, actually, if you want the full list.
And the worst list of offenders, we're talking about child sodomy, rape, murder, dangerous individuals that are on those lists of the people they pulled from Minneapolis alone, Minnesota, the entire state, much less the rest of the country.
And they are the ones that need to understand their culpability in creating the environment of what happened, both with the woman in the car as well as the man on the street this weekend.
And the reality is, right now, I applaud President Trump.
I applaud his leadership.
Sending Tom Holman to Minneapolis is a very smart move.
Tom is a seasoned professional, former head of ICE.
He was given, they forget this, by the way, Sean.
He was given a medal by Barack Obama for his service in securing this country as the head of ICE.
And of course, now they vilify him and they demonize him.
And Tom's going to go there and he's going to work to try to settle things down, do this all the right way.
But for us to stay on target, for us to continue to finish the job, we have got to continue to undo the damage of the Biden-Mallorca shears.
It is what the American people sent President Trump to Washington to do.
We've got to continue to deliver and do it the right way.
And we cannot let Democrats defund ICE and defund Homeland Security, which they're threatening to do this coming Friday.
We did our job to fund it.
And by the way, if they do that, they will also be threatening to defund our men and women in uniform and our great patriotic military that carried out that great removal of Maduro in Venezuela.
But the bottom line is this started a long time ago.
I think something has got to change in this country.
And I have raised this question many, many times.
If you are a sanctuary city or a sanctuary state, by the very definition, you are aiding and abetting in lawbreaking.
And the only thing that I can think of short of arresting elected officials, which I guess that probably wouldn't be acceptable to people, but they are aiding and abetting.
And then if you want to know why California is broke with the highest income taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, corporate taxes, the reason is because all of their money go to all of the services they're providing illegal immigrants, everything from health care to education and welfare.
And again, all that money is coming from the hardworking taxpayers of California.
And then they have billions and billions of dollars, tens of billions in budget deficits every year in spite of all those high taxes.
Well, that's right, Sean.
I mean, there are multiple points to what you're getting at, but the most important of which is these elected leaders that are thwarting our federal law enforcement from doing their job.
And look, you and I are both believers in, you know, ensuring that our states and the people aren't being interfered with by an overbearing federal government, right?
We believe that.
But the Constitution says that the federal government has primacy on immigration and dealing with our border enforcement.
And therefore, ICE, Border Patrol, are supposed to be able to work directly with local law enforcement to enforce the law.
Virtually every city in America is working with local law enforcement, at least to a degree.
The local law enforcement is working with ICE to carry out and effectuate what we're doing.
But a handful of blue jurisdictions, and in particular, and notably Minneapolis, are not.
But it is an organized effort.
And by the way, there's lots of information coming out about the lieutenant governor, about others in Minnesota that have been directly in coordination with the signal chats, with the coordinated efforts of Antifa trying to foment the quote resistance, which, by the way, this man wasn't down at a protest.
He was down directly interfering with law enforcement, carrying out their job to remove a dangerous illegal alien.
And that's what's happening across the country.
American people don't want that.
They want us to enforce the law.
They want us to do it the right way.
And these NGOs that are funding it, the flow of all the money through all of these organized efforts, and you and I have talked about that before.
It's not just Antifa.
It's not just George Soros.
It's the whole thing.
It's the Wren Collective.
It's the entire group of organized dollars flowing through and federal and state dollars that are going to these sanctuary jurisdictions, which, by the way, the president is right.
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So the Fox Digital put out how encrypted signal messages obtained by Fox News Digital in real time show anti-ICE rapid responders that are tracking, broadcasting, summoning backup around federal agents to obstruct them in the course of their duty.
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And they're showing up and they're showing up and agitating and reports that they have rocks thrown at them and so on and so forth.
But, you know, with all of this has happens, it seems like, you know, this is a well-coordinated web of encrypted chat, street alerts, tracking of ICE.
We know about in the past, they have a nationwide app.
If ICE is about to make any move at all whatsoever, warnings go out, which removes the element of surprise, which makes the job of ICE and Border Patrol agents more difficult and more dangerous.
And, you know, how is that not against the law?
Well, certainly these individuals that are that are taking specific actions to thwart law enforcement, that they are engaging in potential conspiracy to violate law.
I think our federal officials need to look into all of that.
And frankly, we ought to pressure the local officials to do that.
Now, go back to that point that's related on the sanctuary cities.
You know, when we were just passing last week the Homeland Security Bill, a couple of weeks ago, we funded the, you know, what we call CGS appropriations, the judiciary funding for the Department of Justice.
Those guys, like, we had funding in there that's going to jurisdictions like Minneapolis or Chicago or New York, or Hank, even in Texas, Dallas, or Houston, that are being used to undermine law enforcement.
We should stop that, right?
That's why the president today is at the microphone saying we should end sanctuary cities.
The president's political instincts are better than pretty much anyone I've ever seen.
And he gets what's going on here: that the problem here, the enemy here, is the radical left and the illegal alien criminals that are endangering the people.
That's what the American people want to see.
They want to see that stopped.
And they're tired of these agitators that are fomenting the very kind of thing they did in the summer of 2020, Sean.
So I think the president is right to get in there, try to cool things off and to get Tom Homan on the ground.
But we've got to stay the course, pull the funding back.
We've got to have the feds go in and prosecute those that are involved with all of this.
And if they're thwarting law enforcement, then they should be prosecuted if they're engaging in illegal activities.
We appreciate your time.
I'm going to follow your campaign very closely.
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Thank you, sir.
Appreciate your insight.
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All right, let's get to our busy, busy telephones as we say hello to Tom in New York.
Tom, how are you?
Heard you got hammered with a lot of snow this weekend.
Had a lot of fun conversations with friends in New York that live up there.
They weren't too happy with being out there shoveling a foot and a half of snow.
Yeah, well, it wasn't that bad.
You know, it's upstate New York.
I live a little north of Albany in the Saratoga Springs area.
And then you're used to more snow than downstate.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's not too bad.
I want, thank you for taking my call.
I wanted to give my take on the protests in Minneapolis, and then I wanted to make a comment on Linda's shopping habits, if I may.
Go right ahead.
Yeah.
I spent 21 years in the Navy, in the submarine force, and that was to support peaceful protests.
I have no problem with protests.
There would be people that would protest outside our submarine bases.
And I would tell my kids, I said, I go to work to allow them to do that.
The violent protests, when you bring a gun to a protest or when you drive your car at the officials, that's not peaceful.
And if you were to take these hardened criminal illegals and put them in the suburbs, we'd have a not-in-my-backyard thing just like Martha's Vineyard.
Look, I'm just telling you right now that, you know, we learned a lot in that situation, didn't we?
When I think, was it Governor DeSantis that sent the illegals to Matha's Vineyard?
Now, we did a check at the time and we found out there were plenty of rooms, more than double the occupancy available to put up those illegal immigrants in Matha's Vineyard.
And lo and behold, they never wanted them to stay there.
If they were gone in less than 24 hours, they were removed from their island.
I mean, it is interesting.
Listen, if liberal Democrats want to adopt illegals and put them up in their homes, you know, have at it, but then you know, you and I both know they're never going to do that.
Never.
So that's why that's what I wanted to say about that.
And regarding my military experience, it causes me to have a linear line of thought when I'm shopping.
So, like, if I'm going to go buy a train, I'm going to go into the store, pick up the train, and leave.
When my wife shops, when we go Christmas shopping, she'll look at purses and shoes, you know, stuff like that.
But in defense of Linda, one thing I would say is that I cannot go into a hardware store just to buy a light bulb.
I'm going to walk around the store and look.
And I would have to think you're the same way, too, Sean.
Okay.
I'm not going to stop around and look.
I go if I go shopping, except, you know, even grocery shopping, although I inevitably end up talking to people in the grocery store, and I inevitably get asked the same question.
What are you doing here?
I'm like, buying food?
What are you doing here?
I mean, what do you think I'm doing here?
I like to pick out my own meat.
I like to go shopping.
I don't know.
It just, it's, I don't know why people are so surprised to see me shop.
I mean, maybe they assume you must have people for that.
You gave Linda such a hard time when you were looking for Tom the train.
And I bet that when you go into a hardware store, we had just come back from a long trip and she didn't want to go home empty-handed.
And so we stopped by at Target and we very graciously took time when we're tired and we went into Target.
The purpose was to get a choo-choo train for then little Liam, who's not so little anymore.
And we stop at Target and there happens to be a ton of trains there.
Okay, pick out a train and let's go.
I mean, we went in there for one thing.
When I go shopping, usually I go right in, get what I want, get right out.
I go to the local drugstore, need some deodorant, maybe some dental floss.
I don't know, whatever, shampoo, whatever I need.
Irish Spring, five and one.
That's what I get.
Or a crest.
I need to brush my teeth, whatever it happens to be.
I go in, I go out.
How about a hardware store?
You couldn't just.
What about a hardware store?
I'm not going to go browsing through a hardware store for the next three hours.
I'm bored to tears.
Oh, that's the best thing.
Curtisman, I can't go in and buy just batteries.
You go, you go have at it.
Treat it like a museum.
Stay there all day as far as I'm concerned.
But I mean, a hammer is a hammer.
If I go to Home Depot, I know exactly what I'm going there for.
Go get it and leave.
And then you see an extension cord and you say, oh, man, I could use an extension cord.
And you grab it.
Occasionally that does happen, but it's only because I happen to run into it in passing.
Oh, yeah, I need that.
I'll take it with me.
I'll grab it.
But I don't spend my hours looking.
I don't have that kind of spare time.
I mean, and the idea that she had to pick up every single train and there were hundreds, like 100, 200, 300 of them.
Finally, I just dumped them into the.
I think everybody knows I did not pick up 200 trains.
Excuse me, exaggeration.
There was a ton of toy trains at this large super target.
50.
50.
Okay, there were more than 50.
And she's picking up every one and going over it with a fine-tooth comb.
And finally, after like 30 minutes of this, I couldn't take it anymore.
And I'm like, you know what?
I'll handle this.
And I was with Gomez and Sweet Baby James.
And I said, get me a shopping cart.
Got a shopping cart.
I threw a whole bunch of trains in the shopping cart.
We went and we paid, I paid for the trains, and that was my gift to Liam.
And she complained that she had to bring it home.
I'm like, well, I complained because I had to take a train to bring home the trains and the stupid bag broke and there were trains all over the train.
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Not my problem.
You want to go in there like a normal person and pick out a train and go home with the gift.
And then this way you don't go home empty-handed.
And after a long trip where we're all exhausted and not waste.
Uncle James, am I right?
Say it louder.
James is not going to take your side.
James is on my side because James needs me for olives.
Excuse me.
Listen, open your ears.
You're 100% right.
At that point, we wanted to go home, but it was nice that I filled the shopping cart.
Then Liam got more trains than he could ever dream of from Uncle Sean.
He got a fleet.
He got a fleet of trains.
Exactly.
Chris, my free state of Florida.
What's up, Chris?
You had a, sorry.
You had a caller on last week who made, I can't remember who it was, but he made one comment that stuck with me.
He said the law enforcement officials have rights too.
And it made me think about the ACLU of, you know, civil liberties.
And who, how does the ACLU decide who they're going to protect and who they're?
It's political.
To me, they're very left-wing political organization.
There's the short answer.
Yeah, and I kind of started reading about them and I kind of already knew the answer to my question.
So who does protect, I'll say, conservatives?
You know, conservative rights.
Who is out there protecting them?
Who's out there protecting law enforcement?
Where were Democrats?
There's an article from the AP, September 24th, 2025.
You know, when Democratic riots, when a violent anti-ICE protester fired shots at ICE agents who were transporting an illegal, and they killed the illegal by mistake, where was all the, you know, the, where was the uproar then?
You know, where's the uproar?
You know, where's the pat on the back for the ICE agents arresting murderers and rapists and child molesters and child rapists?
When do they get some praise for the work that they do?
You know, how is it that, you know, all those protests that took place on college campuses about Israel, where are those protesters standing up for the freedom fighters that have been risking their lives in Iran?
So the answer is there's great hypocrisy.
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Oklahoma, they got hit pretty hard this weekend.
Carrie, you don't get a lot of snow in Oklahoma, but apparently you got hammered pretty bad this weekend.
Oh, I'm absolutely jealous of your 86 degrees.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
I love your.
You know, I say that, but I really do feel sorry for people that don't have power and people that are without heat and people that find it difficult and they can't shovel and they're stuck.
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I mean, I do.
I have a lot of sympathy for them.
Absolutely.
And living in Oklahoma, the neighbors around here are unbelievable.
We absolutely help each other out.
Listen, Oklahoma, just like the rest of the country, is the type of place where if there's an elderly person in the neighborhood, somebody in the neighborhood is going to go and shovel her driveway and shovel her walkway and ask her if she needs anything from the grocery store.
That's just the way Americans are.
You're absolutely correct, Sean.
My idea with the immigration, my idea is it's pretty simple.
Even when police stations have an illegal alien that they an illegal with a warrant, and they hold them and they hand them over to ICE, then the government gives them an incentive of $3,000 to $5,000.
I mean, we're already paying $2,600 to people to leave, plus playing for their flight out of the country.
So why not pay it directly to the local police departments so they can upgrade their equipment, they can hire more people.
Because they don't want it.
Remember, sanctuary states like Minnesota and California, sanctuary cities like LA, San Francisco, New York, et cetera, and Illinois and Chicago, they don't want to enforce the law.
They're the same people that lied and said that what our very eyes showed us for four years was not happening.
You know, they don't care how many bad, again, I go through the list of hardened criminals that ICE has arrested in Minnesota that make the people of Minnesota more safe, more secure, that restores law and order.
And they're being impeded by these politicians that have incited these mobs to attack ICE officials and prevent them from doing their job.
And you have these organized, well-orchestrated efforts to make ICE's job harder and more dangerous.
And then they're confronting them.
They're sending out signal messages that are encrypted.
Hey, by the way, there's ICE action here.
Everybody show up and let's harass these ICE agents.
Well, it is a formula for disaster, a prescription for disaster.
And this is why, again, I am pro-life.
I don't want anybody to lose their life.
I don't want ICE officers impeded in the good work that they're trying to do to keep, to enforce the law, keep people safe and secure.
But you can't work under these conditions when you're being called a Nazi in Gestapo and being told by Mayor Small Fry French Fry to get the F out of his city.
They've created an environment that is untenable and where this now becomes inevitable because they can't stop enforcing the law.
That's not going to be an option.
And either these politicians stop what they're doing and tell these people to go home and stop interfering in law enforcement efforts and have local law enforcement help and assist ICE agents, or we're going to see more of this in the future.
I put the blame squarely on them and squarely on them for allowing this unfettered, unvetted, 12, whatever million number of illegals to come into our country, including the worst of the worst in many cases.
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