Power 2 Sean Hannity Show, toll-free on numbers 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, we have a number of issues to go over with investigative reporter, our friend John Solomon.
In just a second, we do have updates.
His reporting.
Now, we have the issue of Minnesota fraud.
House Majority Whip Tom Emmer told Just the News on Tuesday that Minnesota state employees are providing evidence that could lead to the federal prosecution of Governor Tim Walz offering sworn whistleblower testimony.
There's whistleblowers, plural, confirming the Democratic governor failed to act after he was warned extensively about massive taxpayer fraud involving the state's Somali immigrant population.
Quote, that, my friend, should be enough for criminal charges.
The man needs, should be in cuffs, Emmer said in a wide-ranging interview with John Solomon.
And John Solomon, justthenews.com, founder, editor-in-chief, chief investigative reporter, sir.
Glad you could be with us.
And more great reporting.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg with you this week.
Yeah, there's a lot going on.
In fact, just in the last few minutes, I talked to Senator Rand Paul and to House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, both men.
They oversee two of the most powerful committees in Congress, Rand Paul, the Homeland Security Committee, which looks at terrorism and foreign threats, and that Comer Oversight Committee.
They're both saying they're going to subpoena these Somali-based couriers who've been moving hundreds of millions of dollars out of Minneapolis airport in luggage and suitcases.
So we knew there was the fraud.
We knew that there was the warnings to government.
Can I just interrupt you to explain this here?
I mean, because you're talking about millions and millions and millions of dollars.
Yeah, in fact, when you move massive amounts of money, now were they moving it on private aircraft or were they moving it on commercial aircraft?
Because my understanding is that you have to declare massive amounts of money.
And in fact, they did, and there's even a record of it.
Is that true?
That's correct.
There's no doubt what happened.
And so this began around 2018 in Minnesota, right around the time that Tim Waltz is taking over as governor, and it grows.
It goes from 50 to 100 million one year.
And then by 23 and 24, it's $350 million a year in suitcases leaving a mid-sized airport in the Midwest, Minneapolis airport, and it's going predominantly overseas, ultimately ending up in Dubai, a place that has caught the attention of our federal investigators.
It's now under investigation by the Homeland Security Investigations Unit and the FBI.
What's so remarkable about this is it's just a few guys of Somali descent, and they're rounding up this cash.
Now, when we started on this a few weeks ago, we were able to get the numbers, $350 million a year for each of the last two years out of Minnesota, Minneapolis.
We now have learned that some of this money was gathered up in another place, Columbus, Ohio, which is the second largest Somali population in America.
And then it's moved in cash luggages from Ohio to Minnesota and then from Minnesota overseas.
So it looks like an organized cash courier business.
And what we now know is that these two chairmen, Rand Paul in the Senate and James Comer in the House are going to subpoena these guys and say, where were you getting this money?
Where was it going?
Why were you moving it in cash when we have the ability to move things by wire or other capabilities, banks and remittance payment centers?
Why did you put it in cash?
And is any of this money the money that the Homeland Security Department now says ended up in the hands of Al-Shaba, the al-Qaeda terrorist group that's in Somalia and other places in Northern Africa?
So for the first time, we've got Congress really stepping in.
Another thing that is in motion today, several prominent Republicans led by Rand Paul, he's going to introduce legislation that will ban refugees and those coming to the United States as immigrants from being on public welfare.
Now, we used to have a ban, and then the Joe Biden-Obama years created a workaround, which is we'll just name everyone a refugee, and then we won't say they're covered by the ban.
Rand Paul making clear today that if you're coming to the United States, you're not coming here because you're planning to come on the public dole and drain American taxpayers.
So, some real consequences now to what we're learning about this fraud scheme that we started reporting on back in 2024.
I mean, the amount of money is breathtaking.
Are we talking about billions?
How much money are we talking about here?
Right now, the best estimate that the United States Justice Department has is about $9 billion of the $18 billion in welfare in Minneapolis was defrauded.
So, nearly 50% of all taxpayer funding in Minnesota for welfare and entitlement and social safety net programs was defrauded.
It would be one of the largest scandals in American history.
But people say, well, Minnesota is just the tip of the iceberg, and when you go down, it's a pyramid.
What happens when you get to California?
We've already been looking at California.
You and I talked about this last week.
Start looking at California.
You've got in Minnesota, you got, all right, food stamp fraud, you got this food aid program, you got an autism parents' support program, and some Medicaid.
You get out to California, there's about six or seven other big scams that are now publicly confirmed by auditors and IGs.
You've got fake students enrolling in California universities.
They never show up, but they get the student aid.
That's a fraud scandal.
You've got Medicaid, illegal aliens on Medicaid there.
We believe when talking to some people, and Scott Besson put out a jaw-dropping number the other day, like a half billion dollars of fraud could ultimately be detected by the ongoing investigation.
These blue states created a system, and that system began with five steps.
The first step was: let's start counting illegal aliens in the census.
All right, they changed the census rules.
Then the gates were opened at the border by Joe Biden.
Millions of illegal aliens came in.
They are lured to sanctuary cities, the blue states and blue cities.
Then they're given welfare.
And then, when, at least in the case of Governor Waltz now, Governor Waltz is directly warned by his own state employees, that's what these whistleblowers are saying, and then they look the other way so that the fraud can continue so that these immigrants have enough money to stay in the blue cities and hijack apportionment, hijack representation.
That is the scandal that we're beginning to see and that lawmakers are beginning to talk about very clearly.
So, this is going to go well beyond Minnesota, Tim Walz, the Somali community in Minnesota.
And it's going to move to states.
I've also heard Ohio mentioned on the list of states.
New York is mentioned in the list of states, and California's at the top of the list in terms of being next.
Is that correct?
You have it exactly right.
The president, in fact, even signed an order directing all agencies to look at California's welfare fraud, given the size and scope of what's already been documented.
So, California's in New Jersey, Illinois, that's a big one.
Everyone's worried about Illinois.
Columbus, you mentioned Columbus is the second largest Somali center.
And so, now that we see this cash flow from Columbus to Minnesota in the airports, which the Homeland Security Department confirmed this week, we now know that Minnesota and Ohio are connected, at least in this Somali cash flow.
So, it's going to be a nationwide thing.
It's probably going to be a blue state, predominantly blue state or blue city fraud scheme.
And a lot of the lawmakers I'm talking to, Comer, Rand Paul, Tom Emmer, the number three member in the House, they said, listen, this was a political scheme that defrauded the American taxpayer.
This is what lawmakers are saying.
Democrats needed to bring up their numbers because this country was turning red under the Trump years.
So they start bringing in illegal aliens, open up the borders, change the census counting, bring welfare in, and it's basically a system.
Let's see if they can prove that in the federal government, but that's the allegation and concern right now.
Now we also have whistleblowers that are signing affidavits that will go under oath.
It's been confirmed that they're cooperating with investigators, which is an important step.
And once they go under oath and they sign these affidavits under oath, Tim Walz and others are going to be in a whole heap of trouble is my prediction here.
You know, people, a lot of times, and you've been with us for years doing investigative work and you've proven so much to be true.
And then a lot of times people are not held accountable.
I don't see how they get out of this one.
I really don't.
And I say that with a pretty high degree of confidence for once.
Let me move on because you've also been following the issue involving Greenland and Denmark and this meeting that took place, Mark Orubio, for example, and representatives from Denmark and conversations that are taking place and public comments by the president.
What's really going on?
Well, listen, it's a funny thing to watch this play out because a few years ago, it was Europe.
By the way, as NATO nations now are racing to send troops into Greenland, it's hilarious.
That is hilarious.
Meanwhile, they can't defend their own country.
They couldn't.
They can't even help Ukraine defend itself without America.
The Europeans are full of elitists who actually are disconnected from reality.
That's what really you learn over the last couple decades.
And so one of the most important stories that we've written in the last couple of days by Jerry Dunley, we heard Justin News, and the president, President Trump, socialized it, it really captures the hypocrisy.
So until Donald Trump wanted to grab Greenland and give it a security perimeter, make it part of the U.S. protection opportunities, it was Europe.
And by the way, the Danish intelligence services themselves warning that Russia and China posed an enormous threat to Greenland, that it was sitting naked and open in the Arctic where China and Russia are trying to project dominance and maybe create dominance in the region in the next great Cold War for this country.
So the Europeans were warning about the second Donald Trump steps inside, I can fix this, I'll put U.S. superiority around this.
We'll keep Greenland safe.
We'll maybe make it part of the United States.
All of a sudden, the Europeans forget about everything they've been worried about, everything they've been warning about, and then they're suddenly against it only because Donald Trump stepped in to create a solution that they couldn't create.
But the intelligence report showed the Danish government, the very people who said, we don't want the Americans here now.
They were warning as most recently, Sean, as December that Greenland was in grave danger from Russian and Chinese aggression.
But the second Donald Trump offers a solution, they turn around on it.
They act against their own self-interest because it seems like Trump derangement syndrome is pretty well positioned in Europe these days.
What do you make of this ongoing confrontation with ICE?
While I was on the air last night, another shooting, an ICE officer, I went into great detail.
While we were actually on the air, we got a statement directly to Fox News about what was happening, and it was pretty devastating for the officer involved.
Now then you have Jacob Fry and Tim Walz, you know, basically attacking, you know, law enforcement for doing their job enforcing the law, just thumbing their nose at the supremacy clause of our Constitution.
But in this case, you had a Venezuelan guy released by Joe Biden into the country in 2022 of trying to evade arrest and fled the scene and then crashed into a parked car.
And then the officer caught the subject on foot.
And two other people come out of a house.
A struggle ensues.
And now you have three people ambushing an officer and he's fearing for his life.
One individual shot in the leg.
Yeah.
This situation is getting worse and worse.
A 1,300% increase in assaults against agents, 8,000% increase in the threat level against agents.
I mean, this is a dramatically high number.
It is.
Listen, what you're seeing now in Jacob Fry and Tim Waltz and all of this terrible rhetoric that won't stand behind the law and order men and women of Bloom is their effort to protect what they put in place.
They have to protect this schema or their whole political charade is broken up.
If you start deporting these illegal aliens from the country, they lose their tax base.
They lose their voting base.
They lose their apportionment base.
And so they're willing to let their citizens, the lawful voters of Minnesota, suffer from these thugs that are on the street that are chasing away from and committing crimes and running from ICE when they should be apprehended.
What they're really doing is no different than if someone holds up a bank robber in their house to keep them from being arrested by the FBI and the bank robber.
You have criminal aliens that the ICE is trying to arrest.
By the way, completely lawful.
It is the law on the books to do this.
It is the federal government's job to do it.
And you now have aiding and abetting that process through their rhetoric, through their obstruction, through their lawsuits, Democratic elected leaders in these cities trying to stop it.
Why?
Because if these aliens are thrown out, if these bad thugs are arrested and deported back to their countries where they came from, the entire schema of the Democratic Party is going to be broken up and their ability to get apportionment and funds sent to their cities is going to break up.
Here's the big thing I would be watching for.
I think the FBI director Cash Pratelli, he said this to us on Friday, and I think we're getting close to the first arrest.
Cash Protel said on Friday, the FBI is now investigating those who funded the protesters and provided logistical planning and support.
They're going to be treated just like the protesters.
They're going to be just like those who give material support to terrorists.
They're going to be indicted for obstructing federal proceedings.
And once the money flow and the organizers, you know, these are paid protesters and brought in from outside, as we saw, even in the woman who was shot.
She was from another state, right?
Missouri, I think it was, the people who are paying, organizing.
Well, you see these manuals that they put out, how to fight and resist ice.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're literally teaching people how to break the law.
What Kash Patel has put as the next line in the sand is that the people who paid, organized, trained, and implemented these protests to stop law enforcement from doing their job, they're going to be charged and arrested with obstruction of justice.
If that happens, I have a strong prediction that I think these protests will die down quickly because these organizers don't mind putting the money out, but if they're going to be the people on the hook for the consequences, it's going to stop a lot quicker.
Yeah, I think that's a good bet.
By the way, my prediction on Greenland is Donald Trump is going to try and make him an offer they can't refuse.
That's my guess on how that plays out.
What are the odds I'm right?
Peaceful means.
It's going to get done through peaceful means.
Just like really at the end of the way, Venezuela was.
Look how much happier the Venezuelans are today than they were two weeks ago.
Well said.
Don Solomon, thank you.
All right, let's get to my free state of Florida, Jason.
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
How are you doing, sir?
It's been an honor.
First time caller, but I didn't know if anybody's ever given you the perspective of the ICE agent.
I'm a retired law enforcement, and I went through the exact same incident where a vehicle accelerated towards me and I was forced to fire.
Unfortunately, it ended in the loss of life of someone.
I have no problem believing, after what I've seen, that it's going to be ruled a justified shooting.
But the two points that I want to make is, you know...
By the way, we do have an update on the officers.
The officer, by the way, had internal bleeding and injuries because there was, you know, this narrative out there.
Well, we're not really sure if the officer got hit.
Meanwhile, the woman backs up and accelerates right towards him.
Now it's on the side.
He's in front of the vehicle, and this woman puts her foot right on the gas and is headed right towards him.
I don't know what people expect that person to do at that point.
I mean, I'm sure that you would have much preferred that never happened to you in your life.
But a 4,000-pound vehicle is a clear and present danger to your life.
You are so correct.
And just hearing the father, I don't know if many people have heard the father not blame the ICE agent.
I played it yesterday, yeah.
Yeah, but the biggest part, there's something called culpable negligence.
I'm sure you're very well aware of it, Sean.
You know, in my case, the passenger was really pushing the driver to accelerate.
That passenger got charged.
You know, culpable negligence is when you know or should have known that your actions are going to cause harm or death to somebody.
Why haven't they gone after the Minnesota ICE organization that's pushing these protesters to do this, to go against the ICE agents?
Why haven't they gone after that?
Also, why haven't we seen the video from the wife's perspective that she has?
They've released all types of videos.
Why haven't we seen that one?
That's a very good question.
Now, the president is being very, very clear.
If he's put out a truth today, if the corrupt politicians in Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE who are only doing their job, then the president might invoke the Insurrection Act, which many presidents have done before.
And, you know, unfortunately, he's looking at a travesty.
I mean, I've been looking at the images all day.
And they are doing everything they can do to stop ICE from doing their job.
I can name names of people that have been killed in Minnesota and people victims of violent crime in Minnesota and Minneapolis in particular.
You never hear these names come out of the mouths of Tim Walz or Mayor French Fry.
Yeah, and they're out there saying that this is what ICE wants.
And I can tell you, this is not what I wanted.
This is not what that ICE agent wants.
He does not want to go home to his kids and explain that he had to take somebody's life.
This is not what we wanted.
We have to live with this.
It's part of our jobs.
And we're put in these positions, Sean.
It's very sad.
I feel for that family.
Any loss of life is horrible.
But the fact that there are organizations and people pushing these protesters to put themselves out there in harm's way and making decisions that they shouldn't make, it's going to get a lot of people in trouble.
Officers, police officers, law enforcement agents are trained to uphold the law.
And that's exactly what they're going to do.
They're put in these positions by their supervisors, by the president, whoever it could be, to do a job.
They're just doing their jobs.
Let me tell you how this is going to end badly.
Let me tell you what is likely to happen.
And I pray to God I'm wrong.
Like, we have known terrorists in the country.
And to me, it's a ticking time bomb.
It's a matter of when we get attacked, not if we get attacked.
But I pray to God, again, I'm wrong.
But it's going to end in ICE agents dying.
This rhetoric is so incendiary.
It's so dehumanizing.
It's so insightful.
And it's so reckless and so irresponsible.
And it has gotten to the point these politicians are living and dying off it.
Now, the Democrats may even want to go as far as to defund ICE.
They're arguing that amongst themselves in Washington.
And I guess they just want to institutionalize lawbreaking and aid and abetting the lawbreaking and not be held accountable.
I don't think that's going to work out well for anybody.
Too many people have been murdered.
Too many people have been raped.
Too many people have been victims of crime.
Too many drugs have made it into our country.
And we've got to take a stand.
And the president is right to take this stand.
And if we don't do it now, we don't fix it now, we're never going to fix it.
Anyway, Jason, God bless you.
And I'm sorry you had that incident in your life.
You're right.
No law enforcement person I know wants to ever have to make that tough decision.
Ben, North Carolina, Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Ben.
Hey, how you doing, Sean?
Good, sir.
Glad you called.
Yeah, I was in the service from 96 to 2017 in the Marines.
Well, thank you, man.
Separviser.
Roger that.
Thank you.
I just wanted to kind of touch base with a little bit about how kind of the incentives for young men that are in the Marines now change.
They do like a blended retirement.
I did 21 years and I got a check.
You know, so they're chipping away at incentives.
And it's that level.
What do you mean by a blended blended retirement?
What does that mean?
I'm not sure what you're referring to.
They do a 401k and you got to wait till you're 62 to get a check from the service.
A lot of these guys are.
And it used to be when you retired, you started getting your pension.
Right.
I've retired at 47.
I got a check the next month.
Well, I think what the net result of that is going to be is you're going to have fewer people that maybe you dreamed of being in the service because they're sacrificing enough.
I mean, we've gone through on this program how many service people have been on food stamps.
I mean, it's a national embarrassment to me.
President Trump's the one guy that's been trying to fix it and more recently announced, you know, I think it was $1,500 or $2,000 per service person with some of the tariff money that he's taken in.
But again, I think we need to do a lot better job with our vets.
He fixed the broken veterans administration and the hospital system in his first term and gave people the option of going to regular hospitals if in fact they couldn't be seen right away.
Right.
There's a lot of co-pays that kind of tie into that.
But once you retire, you kind of have to re-energize yourself to enter into the civilian world.
And let me tell you, it's not what it used to be.
You got to watch your P's and Q's because we're held to a really pretty higher standard, a double standard while you're in the service.
Listen, it's nobody everybody that I know, I find this in life.
And tell me if this was in your case.
Most people that I know that are in the service or got into the service or got into law enforcement or became teachers, even people that have become doctors and nurses.
And for them, it's a vocation, a calling, a dream.
It's a passion.
It's what they've always wanted to do with their lives.
Was that your case?
It was.
And the thing is, is when you make a decision along those lines, you kind of are foregoing the option of, okay, well, I'll go into business and maybe I want to make a lot of money.
I never got into radio thinking I'd ever be in television.
I never got in.
I just wanted to be on the air.
As a matter of fact, I took a massive pay cut when I started and wasn't even paid at all in the beginning.
And then my first job paid me next to nothing and I could barely survive, but I just love what I was doing.
For me, it was a calling and a vocation.
And, you know, and I was blessed beyond, frankly, what I deserve in my mind.
And I just do it because I love it.
Yeah, me too.
I worked on old boats and then I worked on Hueys and Covers for the Marines and I'm still doing it.
And I'm an aircraft mechanic now and they taught me a trade that's done really well for me.
Isn't that great, by the way?
I mean, that is one of the great things the service does do for people is that you can learn things and you can advance and you could go to school and they have all these different programs that really, you know, when you do get out of the service, you know, you're coming out with skills that are marketable that will pay high salaries and on top of the retirement that you earn because you also might be called into active duty and putting your life at risk.
Yeah, I still got like four more years to go before I'm out out.
Yeah, well, listen, thanks.
Thanks for what you've been doing and what you do.
And God bless people like you.
We have the greatest military in the face of this earth.
And, you know, it's an all-volunteer military and the best of the best, I think, in the entire world by far.
And, you know, we do need to support our brave men and women in uniform, our brave men and women, you know, law enforcement.
We got to support all these people.
You know, the idea that, you know, we don't support them, what I've been watching all last night during my show, I just, it makes me sick.
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Let us say hi to, is it Ephraim in Florida?
How are you?
Yes, sir.
Ephraim, Florida.
First time caller, Sean.
Thanks for taking the call.
I'm glad you called.
Where do you live in Florida?
My free state.
Love Jacksonville.
Beautiful there.
I once, when I used to play golf, I don't play much anymore.
Sawgrass, I played it once.
That part three is amazing.
It's a little cold right now, so we're freezing down here.
You just got to move a little more south where I am.
Yes, sir.
The reason why I called.
I hate to tell you, it's 70 degrees right now where I am.
But go ahead.
The reason why I called was about the women or the self-identifying women in women's sports now.
And I'm a former Division I athlete 30 years ago.
What kind of sport would you play?
I played football, Division I level, full scholarship athlete.
I was friends with a lot of girls in women's sports.
I think most of the listeners don't understand the level of commitment that these girls do in Division I athletes.
You know, it's 12 months a year, seven days a week.
They don't have time off.
And I think one issue that's never even discussed is there's only so many scholarship spots on the roster, right?
Like I was a scholarship bubble guy.
And what the bubble is, they only have so many scholarships to give.
And a lot of people are on that bubble where they're pretty good.
They may not be great, but they only have a certain number of scholarships.
I was fortunate.
I got a scholarship.
My point is, there's girls out there who are going to get hurt by this because they're a bubble athlete.
So they're going to give that scholarship to Paul, who identifies as Pamela now in the pool.
They're going to give her that scholarship instead of this girl who busted her butt her whole life to the opportunity to play Division I sports because she's on the bubble.
She won't get that scholarship because they gave it to a guy who identified as a woman.
That's not fair.
Well, it totally negates the issue of Title IX.
And, you know, my daughter, you're right.
It was a full-time job.
She was a D1 athlete and played tennis.
Okay.
And I'm very proud of her.
But you give up a lot to do it.
I mean, practices at six in the morning.
You got to go to cross training.
You got to do weights.
You got to have practices in the afternoon.
You got to work in your classes.
You got to study.
And it doesn't give you a lot of free time.
It's a full-time job.
And the exchange yesterday, I mentioned this, and I'll play it later in the program again, but can men get pregnant?
Josh Hawley attends an exchange with a doctor that won't answer the question.
Do you think men can get pregnant?
And, you know, this doctor's answer is just, it's so ridiculous.
And then, you know, she wasn't sure what the goal of the question was.
I don't care.
You know.
I do take care of patients with different identities.
Can men get pregnant?
Again, the reason I paused there is I'm really not sure what the goal of the question is.
The answer is obvious, but this is how insane it's gotten.
And when I started my radio program, if you would have asked me if I'm debating and this would be debated before the U.S. Supreme Court like this week, I wouldn't have believed you.
Anyway, I do appreciate you standing up for them.
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