Devin Nunes joins guest host Mark Simone for a wide-ranging conversation that starts with Truth Social and ends with a bet on Americas energy future. Nunes, now CEO of Trump Media and Technology Group (DJT), revisits the company's origins: building a platform he says was designed to keep voices from being dependent on Big Tech, using proprietary technology and aiming to expand into broader global streaming. From there, he argues the company has reached its initial free speech mission and is now looking for its next major initiative. That next chapter, Nunes says, is driven by a looming collision between artificial intelligence and electricity. As data centers multiply and AI use accelerates, he warns U.S. power demand is rising fast while America, in his view, is falling behind China, which he says is expanding coal and nuclear capacity as the U.S. leans more heavily on wind and solar. He ties the debate to rising electricity rates, particularly in blue states and blue cities, and frames energy capacity as a decisive factor in an AI race. The centerpiece of the segment is a newly announced merger involving TAE Technologies, focused on nuclear fusion. Nunes contrasts fusion with traditional nuclear fission, emphasizing fusions promise of abundant power without the same radioactive waste concerns. He credits decades of research accelerated by private funding and multiple prototype generations at TAE for bringing the technology closer to commercial reality, and says the deal was announced the prior week with an expected completion in the first half of 2026. Simone leans in on the potential: if fusion works at scale, it could transform how cities, industry, and the always-on internet power the next era. Nunes offers specific projections an initial commercial reactor at 50 megawatts, with later units in the 350500-megawatt range and describes a small footprint he says could fit in a 10,000-square-foot warehouse. He notes the prototype is in Orange County, California, but says the first commercial plant will be built in another state. Listeners also get a direct answer on how everyday investors could gain exposure: Nunes points to Trump Medias public listing under ticker DJT, before the conversation turns back to AIs energy appetite and the politics surrounding climate and power as the segment ends.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Normally, you hear me on WOR in New York, our big flagship station.
Hey, with us right now, Devin Nunes, a great guy.
What a career he's had.
And, you know, for the last few years, he's been the CEO of Trump Media and Technology Group.
And right now, you know, they're about to merge with TAE Technologies.
This is all about energy dominance, AI, all sorts of stuff important for the country.
And it's a massive merger.
And he's with us right now.
Devin Nunes, how you doing?
Hey, Mark.
It's great to be on with you.
Merry Christmas to you and your listeners.
And hopefully Sean's out having a great little time away from the airwaves.
Yeah, I'm sure he is.
Now, what you do now with this is very complex stuff.
And I'm just reading this, the merger, bold experiment for the next generation of baseload energy through a meme stock vehicle.
That sounded good, but I don't know what the hell I just said.
Well, the fake news is always going to fake news, but I'll just give you the quick rundown.
We had to start a company several years ago to build True Social, not because President Trump needed a new company.
In fact, he didn't need a new company, but we had no way to get our voices back.
So we had to build True Social.
That was a monumental task.
We did it all without big tech.
We did it with our own technology, proprietary technology.
And now we're open globally and we stream globally.
And we have a very sophisticated team of software engineers.
As we finally, we fought through the Biden administration to go public, the Trump Media and Technology Group, the ticker symbols DJT.
Biden tried to stop that company from going public.
Finally, we won that battle about a year and a half ago in the spring of 2024 of the election year.
We went public.
Through that process, we have said that, hey, we saw, we won free speech.
We've won that battle.
We did what we set out to do.
And then as a public company, we said, what are we going to do next?
It's going to mean a lot to the American people, mean a lot to the world.
And as everybody knows now, AI is eating up and these data centers are eating up more and more energy.
Everybody's using more electricity.
We are in a race against China as to who's going to be AI dominant.
And what we have done as a country, and I fought this when I was back in the Congress, we 20 years ago said, well, we're going to build windmills and solar panels.
It's going to be great.
China said, we're going to build coal-fired power plants and we're going to build nuclear reactors and we're going to crush everybody around the world.
And in fact, now China is producing three and a half, four times more energy than we are.
They're producing baseload power that's much cheaper.
And we're way behind.
So we are ahead in AI and in data centers, but we're behind in energy production.
And as you probably know, being there in New York, the electricity rates, especially in blue states and blue cities, are skyrocketing.
The red states are still, you know, red space even are still going up.
But anyway, I'll cut to the chase, Mark.
The bottom line is, is that we looked around and said, we want to put ourselves at the forefront of the next breaking technology.
Where's that going to be?
Somebody has to figure out how to crack the code on new nuclear power technology.
And so what TAE Technologies has done is they've taken the nuclear fusion process that was discovered about the same time as the Manhattan Project back during World War II.
But we went the route of nuclear fission, which has radioactive waste associated with it.
It's great technology.
It's worked.
It's provided baseload power for the United States for a long time.
But after Three Mile Island and then Chernobyl and Fukushima, it kind of fell out of favor.
Well, about 25, 30 years ago, Chuck Schwab, Stanley Druck and Miller, others said, you know what, we need to take this science off the shelf and start studying nuclear fusion, which is more similar to like an MRI machine in terms of the radiation.
So it's very low radioactivity.
This company, all privately funded, went cruising along.
They built five prototypes, five generations of reactors.
And now they're ready to build their first commercial reactor.
And that's where we came in.
So we had a big balance sheet, a great team.
We're a publicly traded company under the ticker symbol DJT.
And we merged with them.
We announced that merger here last week.
And we'll go through the process, but it should get done in the first half of 2026.
But our company, Trump Media Technology Group, will now hold TAE Technologies, which is looking for, I say I call this either the Manhattan Project 2.0, but it will be the biggest invention since the first Manhattan Project when Admiral Rickover basically figured out that he could power the Navy and power homes with atomic power.
This is the next big breakthrough.
And I know it, you know, and I don't say it lightly as somebody who spent a lot of time on these issues.
This is a big race.
The Chinese are moving fast towards nuclear fusion and we need to beat them.
And our company has put ourselves right in the middle of that for 2026.
Dumbest thing we ever did in New York was get rid of our nuclear power.
Nuclear power is the most effective and cleanest power out there.
And the only argue, wow, what about the nuclear waste?
Well, there's technology now that can take care of that easily.
But so what you're talking about is the future in many ways for smaller areas, municipalities, right?
Small nuclear fusion facilities.
This is if you're into green energy, and people don't realize, I think, how much energy is used up by AI and the internet and all that.
So we really need this, don't we?
That's right.
And what we're doing, this is really breakthrough technology.
A lot of people are talking about those smaller reactors that you've read a lot about.
But this is actually different.
The first commercial reactor is going to be 50 megawatts, which is not small, but it's on the smaller side.
But that's just to prove out and study the tech, you know, study and build the technology.
But in five, six, seven years, we hope to have the science and the engineering right now.
The plans are currently to build them at 350 to 500 megawatt, which that puts it right on par with all the other big power plants that are out there.
So this isn't like some small reactor.
These are small in size, but big in power outlets.
So if you, and you can go to t-ae.com and you can, you can actually look at all the schematics.
You know, sorry, T-A-E.com if you want to look at it.
But these basically fit.
And there's the prototype that I've seen.
It's in Orange County, California now.
But the new one that will go out to find a state, it will not be California.
I can assure you that.
We will find a state to build this commercial plant in.
But you're talking about a very small footprint.
This will fit within a 10,000 square foot warehouse.
So it is amazing technology.
Granted, it has not been done before, but the science shows that it's there and the science has been around since World War II.
It's just we haven't put the effort to it.
And partially the breakthrough, it just hasn't been the last TEEs, all the work they've done to build these prototypes.
It also is partially due to AI itself and the compute power because having computers that operate so quickly have made it easier to develop and harness the plasma.
So it is a big breakthrough.
This is a big, you know, this is a big move.
And like I said, I don't say it lightly that this is the Manhattan Project 2.0 and it will have that effect when successful.
And some of the smartest zillionaires I know for a couple of years now have been talking about this as the future and a hell of an investment.
Now, if the average person wants to invest in this, how do they do that?
Well, yeah, we're publicly traded.
So under the ticker symbol DJT, Trump Media and Technology Group.
All right.
Excellent idea.
Definitely the future.
And now just explain to people, especially these green climate change, I don't think they realize a Google search burns a ton of energy.
And AI, how much energy does that use?
Yeah, you know, it's a good point.
All the global warming alarmists are all heavily invested into all these big tech companies that are using more and more power.
So look, I don't try to get into, it's hard to read the, you know, what's true and what's not, but I just, I, I bring it down to this.
Number one, we're using more power, not less.
Number two, we're already paying too much for power.
We're not competitive against countries like China.
So we need to lower the cost for the energy we're using today.
Now, some people say we're going to need in five years, we're going to need double the electricity.
I have no idea if that's true, but I just know that we need better baseload power.
We're not going to do it with windmills and solar panels, but we can do it with nuclear power, especially nuclear fusion.
And that's, you know, I've been a big believer of that my whole career when I was in a public servant.
And look, and I don't do this, Mark, because I'm, you know, I'm a, you know, I want, you know, clean energy.
I mean, but yeah, everybody does want clean energy.
I'm not as a guy who used to drive farm equipment around and diesel motors and everything else.
I want to have, you know, as clean air as possible.
But most importantly to me is can it be done as cheap or cheaper than what we can produce existing power today?
And the answer is it should be competitive with natural gas, coal, et cetera.
I think it should be, we estimate, you know, somewhere right around that 8 to 10 cents a kilowatt cost, which is right in line with what the base power cost is in most places.
Now, places like California now, we're upwards of 40, 50 cents a kilowatt, but that's a whole nother story.
And other countries, France, 25% nuclear-powered, but we're way behind in that area.
So this is a very, very important technology.
Tell people again where to go to, where to look into this.
Yeah, well, you can go to t-ae.com, or you can just go to Trump Media and Technology Group, TMTG.com.
But yeah, or just go to TrueSocial.
You can read all about it on True Social, too.
If you have a True Social account, we're putting out all kinds of information that you can see there.
Yeah.
Hey, one more thing.
You know, things come and go in the digital technology, internet age.
Things come and go.
But when it comes to Truth Social or Twitter, that's here to stay, isn't it?
It's not going anywhere.
Yeah, well, we've developed unbreakable technology, right?
So it's, you know, nobody can shut us down.
The reason we were stood up and formed as a company, as I started with, this was not President Trump didn't need a new company.
I didn't need a new job.
Everybody was perfectly fine.
But Twitter, Facebook, YouTube had banned many of us, including the president of the United States.
But millions of Americans were banned from social media and either banned or shadow banned.
So we stood up this company to save free speech.
Now, you know, we've developed streaming and other products around it, but we had to build it.
Remember, we had to build it without the Googles, without the Amazons, without the Microsofts.
We had to do this on our own and build it worldwide.
And, you know, it should have never been done.
We shouldn't have had to do this.
But as your listeners or Sean's listeners will know, the country has not been operating the way it should be.
It's been a dark chapter of U.S. history from the Russia hoax to the impeachment hoaxes to January 6th to what happened with all the people that got banned from the internet, the skew that's been done on these different news sites and websites.
It's really scary times if you look at it.
And we're trying to do things, build a foundation.
We boom, we opened up the internet.
And now we're trying to do something to provide cheap, abundant power to everyone in the United States of America.
Well, it's important stuff.
Devin Nunes, thanks for the great work.
Give everybody the website again to go to.
Yeah, TAE.com or just go to TrueSocial and you can see follow the feeds there.
Yeah, everybody do that because this is very important stuff.
Well, you've done amazing work.
Devin Nunes, thanks for being with us.
Hey, Mark, have a great Christmas there in New York.
Really appreciate it.
Take care.
Thank you.
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Is it indeed?
You did say earlier you were in it quite a bit.
Yeah, I'm actually in the Sinatra documentary.
So you sat and watched yourself for two hours.
No, I'm only in for a minute here and there, but no, it's really good.
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You should be watching this.
Listen, I love Frank Sinatra.
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Not one that you like, not one.
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Let's go to who's been, oh, let's go to, he's been hanging on 48 minutes.
Let's go to Clayton in Texas.
Clayton, how you doing?
Hey, Mark.
First of all, I just want to say Merry Christmas to everyone and thank you for to everybody that's in the studio today for sacrificing their time with friends and family to be here with us on the radio.
It's Tuesday.
It's not Christmas yet.
I know, but.
I got to be honest, not everybody's here.
We're missing a few people today.
Linda's here.
Ethan's here.
What I wanted to say was I'm currently in the middle of the Hunter Biden, Sean Ryan podcast interview, and I had to take a break because it's kind of excruciating, but I happened to turn in.
Let me ask you a serious question.
It's a five and a half hour podcast.
You'll listen to this Hunter interview.
After about an hour, if you don't want to just shoot yourself, why would you keep listening?
You said you're halfway through.
That's two hours.
Why would you even go back to it?
After about five minutes, I didn't want to listen anymore.
But why are you listening?
Because I think two things.
Number one, as conservatives, we hold the belief that we don't think the opposition is bad people with ideas.
We think they're people with bad ideas.
And so I think for Sean to give him the platform to espouse his ideas as much as I might detest or disagree with them, it's good to listen to them to understand, you know, to try and understand where the opposition is coming from.
Okay, that takes 12 minutes.
Now, what are you doing for the other five hours?
He does a lot of background.
He starts from birth to president.
Who wants to hear that?
It helps you understand.
It helps to humanize the individuals because, again, as conservatives and Christians, I think, you know, it's important for us to not dehumanize the opposition.
As much as we might disagree with them and sometimes detest them, we can't dehumanize them.
Okay, but listen, people are listening to you right now.
They're getting a feel for you.
You sound like a nice guy.
You got a little bit of a Texas accent.
You sound like a smart guy.
They've got a good feel for you.
Nobody is saying, you know, I have to hear him for five and a half more hours before I can be sure.
We got a feel for you in a couple minutes.
Well, like I said, it helps me get a better perspective.
Are you a truck driver?
No, sir.
I'm just on my way to help a fellow, a brother Recon relocate from Colorado back to Texas.
Oh, okay, because if you're a truck driver, maybe you got five and a half hours.
But you shouldn't be listening to that.
You could doze off and go right off the road.
But Clayton, great call.
Thanks for calling.
Take care.
Now, who is this Sean Ryan?
Where is he from?
What does he do?
Where'd he come from?
He's a former Navy SEAL.
He has a show on YouTube that has a partner show on all the other platforms.
And he basically sits down with people and he calls people on their BS.
He's in it pretty big right now with Congressman Dan Crenshaw going back and forth.
And he's no nonsense.
He's definitely there to let people know that you can actually say what you think and it's okay to stand behind your beliefs.
Okay, but anybody that does a five and a half hour podcast, it's a little much.
Listen, he does long format, no question.
I agree with you.
Listen, I have, I have very strong feelings about this interview.
I have not seen it, but I would not give audience to someone who has the history that he has because there are plenty of other people on the left that have done far less that would give me a better opinion of the Democrat Party.
Not this guy.
This guy's not a Democrat Party representative.
He's just a president's son who was a drug addict and a cheater and a liar and an abuser.
I mean, piss off.
Okay.
But I do a podcast, which is quite successful, by the way.
Exactly right.
And I listen to it.
It's on iHeart.
In fact, it's in the top 50 of iHeart podcasts in America.
Wow.
And I wouldn't, what kind of ego would I have if I said, I'm going to do five and a half hours?
I would do half hours.
Well, I think also part of the problem is if you've ever heard Hunter Biden speak, it's a struggle for him.
Words are not easy to him.
So it's, you know.
Okay, but put them on.
It's like his first day talking.
Let me interview him.
Let Sean interview him.
We get it done in 15 minutes.
We'll get everything.
Without question.
Yeah.
But these other podcasts, I see these other podcasts with, and there has to be some kind of legislation that not everybody can have a podcast.
There has to be, it's out of control.
My dentist has a podcast.
Everybody has a podcast.
Every housewife I know, have you heard my podcast?
No.
I don't want to mention any names, but some of them.
Why do you mean everybody loves it?
I said, yeah, you send it to your friends.
They love it.
Nah, everybody loves it.
Nobody likes it except your friends.
And I shouldn't say anything because I don't know a lot of these people, but the worst podcast.
This could explain why you're alone at Christmas.
I'm just saying.
No, I met plenty of people at Christmas, but everybody has a podcast now.
Stop it.
And what happened to the podcast was just audio.
Now it's video.
It's all kinds of.
Well, video is huge.
I know, but why?
Because people like to see people in their natural habitat, which most people who are podcasting look more natural than the people we see on TV.
They are not in their natural habitat.
I agree, but it used to be that way.
They took a corner of their house, put some funny lighting in it, and a bookshelf behind them, and books they never read, and a microphone this way.
And that's who sits at home with a big microphone in front of them?
It's not a natural habitat.
You do?
No, I don't.
You don't have any microphones in your home.
Yes, in one room that's a studio.
One room with some bookcases behind it and maybe some plants and some special lighting.
Well, but that's different.
Well, no, the reason is I'm a professional broadcaster and I got to go on TV shows.
And if you don't have that, every single time you got to go down to the show and be in the studio.
Exactly.
But if you're a paid professional broadcaster, that's one thing.
But if you're a housewife somewhere or a real estate agent, don't do a podcast.
Sell homes.
Yeah, I mean, I can't tell you how many times this one woman who owns a couple restaurants who said the other day, my podcast, I'm going to start a second podcast.
I said, really?
I'm opening two more restaurants.
What?
And then they get mad that you're trying to be in their business.
So I do agree with you that there are a lot of people who now, due to the ease of technology, are doing things that they maybe shouldn't be doing.
Probably not.
Anyway, let's take another call.
Let's go to Rob in Long Island.
Rob, how you doing?
How you doing?
We miss you in the morning.
Oh, okay.
Where are you?
Are you anywhere near the phone?
Yeah.
What are you on?
A speakerphone?
You're on a speakerphone, right?
Poor Rob.
Rob has been holding for so long.
It's the most listened to radio show in America.
There's 16 million people listening.
How many do you need listening before you'll actually pick up the phone and not use the speakerphone?
Oh, he hung up.
Let's go to Ron in Wisconsin.
Ron, how you doing?
Hey, we'll get off the speakerphone.
Yes, Ron.
How you doing?
Good.
I was wondering what's your opinion as why the president has re-implemented the Smith-Munt Act or maybe a Smith-Munt Act on steroids to get rid of some of the lying and all that stuff that the left does.
We've got a sister that lives in Kansas City in the area.
And she does not get any of the information that we get about what President Trump is doing.
All she get is the lies.
Well, doesn't she have the internet?
Yeah, but she's...
We didn't wake you, did we?
She doesn't search for it.
I mean, it's like it's got to the point where I won't even call and talk to her because all we do is get in an argument.
Well, why do you talk about, you know, especially everybody going to a Christmas dinner with the family?
Why do you talk about politics?
Why don't you just talk about other stuff?
Well, I try, but she always brings it up.
Well, just tell her.
You don't talk about politics.
Yeah, well, that's why I don't call her anymore.
All right.
Part of the problem, I think the reason some of the polling that, you know, if the polling is valid, that president's, you know, thing like on affordability and the economy and stuff, if his polling is going down, it's because a lot of the people don't get the information.
Yeah.
You know, they don't see if they don't search for it, if they don't have an inclination to look for it and do broad spectrum news, they don't get the information.
They just hear what MSNBC puts out.
All right.
Well, that's a good point.
You're absolutely right.
Ron, thanks for calling.
Yeah, it's not MSNBC anymore.
It's MS Now.
Have you watched it lately?
They were thrown out of NBC.
Yeah, NBC threw MSNBC out, tossed him out of the building, ejected them, spun off the company, got rid of it, made him take NBC out of the name.
It's now called MS Now.
If you watch it, you can really see the difference.
You know, when you used to watch MSNBC, it was the biggest studio.
The set, you know, the wall was like 25 feet behind Joe Scarborough.
Now you watch it.
It's a small studio.
The wall is like four feet behind him.
And the table used to be this big table.
Now it's a little table.
And they used to, whenever news broke, let's cut to NBC News correspondent London.
Well, now they have no connection to NBC News.
Now they cut to some amateur in London.
It's just awful.
It's kind of sad and pathetic.
How do you even know he's in London?
He could be at his home in a bookshelf right behind him.
Well, that is true.
It is MS Now, so I wouldn't trust him at all.
Let's go to Diane in Santa Cruz.
Diane, how are you doing?
Hi, I'm good.
How are you?
Good.
I wanted to comment on the recent shooting at the university.
I believe that our policy of no gun-free zones has been an abject failure.
And I think that we should arm our teachers and staff and other people with the non-lethal firearms.
You mean like a burnout launch kind of thing?
Yeah.
Oh, that's a good idea.
Yeah, I think that it's our right.
It's a constitutional right to be armed.
And it goes to the heart of our republic.
All right.
It's a good idea, Diane.
Thanks for calling.
Now, speaking of Brown University, that president should be thrown the hell out of there and fired for total incompetence.
He's got a security director with no law enforcement experience.
He's got a long resume of being at other colleges in college security.
He was a patrolman and a college police, but he's no real law enforcement.
Also, they did not have the proper surveillance cameras or equipment that anybody.
No, no, no, they had it.
They had two cameras.
But they took it down.
Yeah, but there are two cameras on the building there.
The president of Brown University's home had 30 cameras around it, 30.
And she's getting 3, 4 million a year.
You're spending, how much does it cost to go there?
Like 80,000 a year?
80 to 90,000.
They're being indoctrinated.
The one video they had of the guy, they didn't have security cameras, that was because some neighbor had a ring doorbell camera or something.
That's the only reason they had that video.
Let me tell you something.
They have the video.
We're just never going to see it.
There is no way that school doesn't have that video.
There is.
You got an incompetent president.
You got a security head with no law enforcement experience at all.
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Turn it up.
That's Frank Sinatra.
Oh, have yourself a merry little Christmas.
I hate when they bring in the whole chorus.
We are as in olden days.
Better with just him.
Happy golden days.
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Mr. Grinch.
You really are a hero.
You're as cuddly as a cactus.
You're as charming as an eel, Mr. Grinch.
Ah, finally, a good Christmas song.
There you go.
I'd like to dedicate that to you.
I picked it especially for you.
Look who's talking.
Oh, I'm ho-hoing all the way to Christmas Day, unlike some people.
You know, these Christmas songs were all recorded in the summer.
They record them in July because that's when you have to get it ready.
And most of them were written in the summer by songwriters who tell you they were like on the beach in California.
It was 85 degrees.
But it's always a summer in California.
Yeah, that's true.
And that's another thing about New York.
It's real Christmas here.
Look out the window, the trees, Rockefeller Center.
I do agree with that.
I like the Northeast.
It's cold.
That's Christmas.
You people in Florida trying to put lights on a palm tree.
That's not the same thing.
Doesn't work.
What do you do for Christmas?
You watch It's a Wonderful Life and all that?
I haven't watched it yet, so I'm going to watch it for the first time, I think, probably today or tomorrow.
I watched White Christmas the other night while I made cookies for all the kids' teachers' gifts.
That's a movie.
One of the best Christmas movies, The Bishop's Wife, Carrie Grant.
Oh, I haven't seen that.
One of the finest Christmas movies.
I will watch that.
It's a Wonderful Life actually makes no sense at all.
Why?
We just had Greg Jarrett on the other day, and he was telling us how phenomenal it was.
Oh, please.
You know, they show the town if there was no George Bailey.
It was much better without him.
It had restaurants, casinos, nightclubs.
It was much better without him.
Spoken from the single man.
There's a lot of good Christmas movies.
Holiday Inn.
Holiday Inn is great.
That's where the song White Christmas is actually originally.
What about Frosty and Rudolph?
Frosty is good.
Charlie Brown Christmas.
There you go.
Vince.
Some of my favorites.
Vince Geraldi.
Can't go wrong.
Yeah.
So, well, we're just about out of time.
I want you to have a great Christmas.
Uh-oh.
No, I like that one.
I was...
And, uh...
I've never heard that song.
Enjoy it while you can.
You're not going to hear this music a week from now.