And if you want a little bang in your yin yang, come along.
I'm begging the politicians, the governors, the mayors who constantly attack these men and women, please stop.
I don't want to bury anybody else.
It is clear that they are criminals.
It is clear that they have killed people.
We lower the price of everything from health care to cost of college to junk fees and airline tickets and credit cards.
It appears that the people at the highest levels of responsibility in the government of the state of Minnesota looked the other way.
Freedom is back in style.
Welcome to the revolution.
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Gonna play our guitars and sing you a country song.
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Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Rose.
Sean is out, clearly, and I'm so very happy to be with you all once again.
I love this audience, especially during the holiday season.
It's just kind of a little more light.
I mean, we've got some heavy stuff to talk about, but we can also have fun with one another.
And I do have to say, before I actually get into the show and what we've got planned for you, because Linda has planned a great lineup of guests, but I do have a bone to pick with Linda.
So if you all would indulge me.
Yeah.
Linda, when we were all waiting for the show to go live, I heard you talking about being in DC.
And just for the listener's sake, I've moved to Inside the Beltway.
I mean, I'm in both places still, Pittsburgh and here, but I'm here a lot now.
And my friend, friend, I say that now, there's quotation marks.
I've got, you know, that sounds like an angry friend.
That sounds like the angry elf.
It doesn't feel very ho-ho-ho to me, but go ahead.
Well, you come to D.C. and you don't even call me.
You come and you don't call.
Listen.
Hey.
I'll tell you what.
Next time, I'm going to call you because this time I took a 5 a.m. train.
So at 5.05 when I board, I'm going to ring you first.
You're going to be my first phone call.
Lucky you.
Then when I arrive at 8.20 to set up the studio, you'll be my second phone call.
And then when Sean comes in, barking orders, I'll put you on speakerphone and you can be a part of the joy that it is for me to visit the swamp.
Never mind.
Oh, Linda, we've got lots to talk about.
My experiences here in this area, unbelievable.
I feel like a foreigner in a foreign land.
And we'll talk about it later on, but I know you'll appreciate it.
Plus, you've had the taste of it yourself, the swamp.
So I'm sure you won't be surprised by anything.
All right, fine.
You're forgiven, always forgiven.
Don't call me in the morning, please.
I hate mornings.
We do have a great show, though, planned today because of Linda.
And that includes Dr. Ben Carson.
We've got Jenny Korn.
Listen, first of all, I love Dr. Ben Carson.
I think I like him more than anybody in the world.
Family aside, Ben Carson tops the list.
And then Jenny Korn, who I've never met, Linda tells me she's just so very awesome.
She's the faith director for the White House.
She'll be on.
And also, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is joining us.
So it is packed full.
But I also want to include you, and there is room for you.
So the phone number here, in case you don't already know, is 1-800-941-Sean.
That's 800-941-7326.
Now, before we talk about anything else, there is something I do want to talk about because it's really concerning me.
It bothers me.
It actually keeps me up at night.
It really does.
And it's something that's creeping into our national conversation, and that's socialism.
And if you think about it, I know you're noticing this too.
We keep hearing more and more about socialism.
We hear it in politics.
We hear it in everyday conversations.
And guess what?
Being down here in the swamp, I've even heard it in churches.
So not the one I'm going to now.
I had to leave the other one.
But when you look at recent elections and you see these new candidates rising up and not only they rising up, but they're actually winning their elections.
It's frightening.
And then you hear people like AOC, and we'll get into what she's been doing lately.
But you think about it.
This is so typical of a socialist.
And she is a self-proclaimed socialist.
She believes that socialism is for the, but not for me attitude.
And a lot of them do.
They want to live high.
They want to live good.
But you, you need to conform.
You need to just be part of the herd.
And it really worries me.
I'm really concerned because not so long ago, if you think about it, socialism wasn't something that a serious candidate wanted to be associated with.
I mean, they didn't even say the word out loud, especially if they were running for office.
But now it seems like candidates are wearing the label proudly and they're winning, as I said.
I can't believe that they're actually winning, wearing that label.
And when people raise concerns, we're always like reassured.
It's like, oh, no, it's not that kind of socialism.
It's different.
It's democratic socialism.
But if we're honest, it's still the same thing.
It's just dressed up with a better marketing, a prettier red ribbon.
But we are seeing the rise of radical ideas and we're seeing them in the Democratic Party, to be sure.
But you see real life consequences of socialism.
And what I did today is I went through and I kind of wanted to just give some examples because when I mentioned the church, I've actually heard people say that it's scriptural.
Socialism is scriptural.
They will quote scripture to justify it.
But that's not true.
Scripture actually tells a really different story and so does history.
And I'll get into that in just a moment.
And so does common sense, by the way.
But all throughout history, governments keep promising fairness and they promise equality and security.
And all of that comes through what they call centralized control.
And almost every single time, the reality has been poverty, oppression.
You see it.
And I'm going to give you some examples of it.
But that pattern never changes.
Good intentions on the front end.
And then you've got these devastating consequences on the back end.
And every single time that socialism has been tried, history has shown the same pattern.
Seemingly good intentions, right?
But devastating results.
And then when I said you could feel it creeping in to the politics at home and we hear it in debates, and now we're hearing it in everyday language, it does get really scary, doesn't it?
Because our children have not been taught.
Universities don't, we don't teach American history.
We don't teach true history.
We don't talk about Russia and Cuba and even more recently, Venezuela.
We don't talk about all the fails that socialism has.
And I'm actually going to give you some examples of that.
But it doesn't just fail us economically, though.
And that's something that I think is really important because it erodes the principles that make us a free nation.
And I want to go from God's word to the vision of our founding fathers and also the history in between because that message has always been consistent.
Liberty, stewardship, personal responsibility, those are all the things that lift people up.
And if it's lifting people up, it's lifting your nation up.
So I remember a sermon that was preached maybe 20-some years ago.
I was a big fan of Dr. D. James Kennedy.
I don't know if some of you remember him, but he had a sermon called The Bankruptcy of Socialism.
Now, this was a sermon because this is how important he thought the topic was.
And I'm talking over 20 years ago.
And he warned the church about what we're seeing unfold right now, actually.
And he said that he talked about the fall of the Berlin Wall and how that should have marked the end of socialism.
But yet here we are, we're still watching leaders in other countries, even some in our own country, expanding or wanting to expand federal government.
And here we've seen them take over health care.
They push that all-controlling system where Washington decides who gets what and when.
And it doesn't stop at Washington anymore because we just saw that, didn't we, in November?
And in other elections, it's spreading into the cities, into communities.
And it's actually nearly at every level of government right now.
That's the part that scares me so much because it's just, it's not even slowly creeping anymore in.
And even in the church, it's like not slowly creeping into the church.
It's actually found a pew and planted itself there.
And if we look at a biblical perspective, it will show you that socialism isn't just flawed.
It's actually dangerous and it encourages envy.
It punishes success and it destroys incentive.
And I got to tell you something.
When you lose incentive, when that disappears, forget about innovation, forget about growth.
That all disappears with it.
That's what made our country so great.
Our founding fathers came here with liberty in mind.
They believed that we could accomplish anything that we put our minds to as long as we had the freedom to do so.
So anyway, real quick, I just want to talk about Dr. Kennedy.
He talked about Acts 4, and it's verses 34 and 35.
The believers brought offerings and they laid them at the apostles' feet.
And this is important because you notice they didn't lay it at the feet of the government.
They brought it to the church, not to Caesar.
And you know what?
That's what you call a voluntary act of generosity.
It's not a coerced redistribution of wealth.
It's generosity.
And I got to point one more thing out to you because I think this is important because I am hearing this in the church and with believers.
The early church did not practice socialism.
Let's be very clear on that.
It practiced free will.
It practiced sacrificial giving, obedience to God.
It did not practice government control.
And if you think about it, the Bible actually affirms private property.
Thou shall not steal.
That commandment?
You know that one?
Well, that only makes sense if, if ownership matters.
And thou shalt not covet goes even a little bit further if you think about it, because you shouldn't even desire what belongs to someone else.
So it's clear.
We're called to work, to provide, to steward, and not to sit idly by and expect others to do work for us.
And this is where it matters now.
And this is what concerns me the most, because we're going into celebrating 250 years of this country's presence here.
And we inherited a nation that was built on liberty.
And it was a very radical experiment, if you think about it.
It was an experiment in self-government.
And our founders rejected tyranny.
And so do we have to reject tyranny because it doesn't matter if it comes in the form of kings or bureaucrats.
Tyranny is still tyranny.
And you can see it in the bureaucratic process.
And so here's what I see as our call to action right now.
We have to understand the stakes.
We have to protect our liberty because you know what?
They don't care about your liberty.
And we have to work hard.
I love Wesley.
He was the founder of the Methodist Church.
He said, work hard, save wisely, give generously.
I think that is something that we should all live by.
We have to be alert to the lies of modern socialism and what they're teaching our children.
And we have to take over.
We've got to teach our children.
Go back.
Explain to them what happened to China, what happened to Cuba, what happened to Venezuela and after the Russian Revolution.
And then make a comparison.
Show them the differences between what happened in West Germany when they adopted a market-based economy.
They rebuilt rapidly.
But East Germany under socialism, they stagnated.
And South Korea and North Korea too.
South Korea embraced capitalism.
They became one of the world's leading economies.
North Korea did not.
In fact, I think they're like, what, number 14 or something?
But here's what we need to do.
We can't be fooled by the slogans, empty promises.
We can't be fooled by history, because if we really study history, not the history they're teaching in the schools, we will see that socialism doesn't work, that liberty is what advances the human experiment, not socialism.
So right now is the time for us to be aware.
And it's time for action because we have got to guard.
We have got to actively guard our liberty.
Do it.
Do it in celebration of 250 years of freedom.
And we have to honor God with our resources and live with courage and integrity.
And that word generosity, because that's important.
I like what Wesley preached.
Generosity too.
Government can't replace the strength and character and resilience that comes from personal accountability.
And when you give in to socialism, you give up that accountability.
You don't produce anything.
You are idle, and that is not how we were intended to be.
And the radical left, they may keep pushing, but history, truth, and experience remind us that freedom always beats control.
And you know what?
Hard work always beats handouts.
It really does.
Because in the end, you saw what happened to some of those countries.
Millions went through famine.
Millions left Venezuela.
I mean, the list goes on.
And faith, by the way, and perseverance always beat fear.
So maybe socialism is selling itself as something new, something fair.
But you know what?
History tells us a very different story.
No matter what politicians, no matter what those search engines tell us, it's a different story.
And you know, when you think about what the founding fathers gave us, they gave us a free enterprise system and it was grounded in biblical and individual liberty.
And I don't know about you, but it's heartbreaking to watch so many willing to trade that freedom away for government control.
They don't understand.
Oh, price control.
Yeah, it sounds really good if you're the one buying, not the one selling.
I mean, we'll get into more of that later too.
I want to talk about that.
But the truth is socialism doesn't lift people up.
It drags everybody down to the same level of misery.
It's fueled by envy.
It's sustained by control.
And you know what?
It thrives where truth and freedoms are silenced.
So we need to have strong families, strong people, strong communities, and all of that built on personal responsibility.
That's what built a nation and that's worth defending.
So we'll have more on this subject later on.
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Okay, there's a bunch of really good phone calls here, and I can't take all of them.
If some of you could stay, I would appreciate it.
We can take Chris real quick right now because he was the first one in or she.
Hey, Chris.
Hey, Rose.
Hey, I absolutely loved your commentary on the book of Acts and the early church socialism, which it's not.
But I just wanted to kind of affirm you.
Do you remember Ananias and Sapphira right around that time when they sold their piece of property?
They brought it to the church and they lied about how much it was worth.
And they ended up, they were both, I don't know if you want to say killed or struck dead, but I think it was Peter or something.
He said, listen, that was your money to do with what you wanted.
The fact that you brought it.
You don't have to lie about it.
Yeah.
Exactly, which affirms you're private property.
Yeah.
Another point, also in the Bible, it does say to obey the government, pay taxes in the New Testament.
But if you remember, I think it was in Acts.
The disciples are going around preaching the gospel.
They get brought in before like the Sanhedrin and like flogged.
And they basically say, look, we can't go against what we know to be right by obeying you.
So we're just going to keep on doing what we're doing.
You guys can feel free to do whatever you need to do to us.
So good example, Chris.
I got to go, but that is a great example.
And I thank you for calling in.
Thanks so much.
That was a perfect example.
All right.
Dr. Carson sits at a unique intersection of faith, family, values, medicine, and public policy.
And now he's helping shape government policy on issues that hit home for every one of us.
And that's worth paying attention to.
And you will have that opportunity coming up next when we return with Dr. Carson.
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I love to hear it.
Dr. Ben Carson, he isn't just a respected retired neurosurgeon and former HUD secretary.
He's back in public service in a very big way.
In late September, he was sworn in as national advisor for nutrition, health, and housing at the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
And that's a role that puts him at the very heart of national policy on family, nutrition, health, care, access, and housing, stable housing for American families.
Welcome to the show.
Dr. Carson, it's so good to have you.
Thank you, Rose.
I'm delighted to be with you.
Oh, you're doing a great job.
And I appreciate what you've given to this country.
And you just keep on giving.
Now, in this new role at the USDA, you cover nutrition, health, and housing.
What specific policy goals are you prioritizing right now for American families?
And how's that going to translate into real changes for parents and for children?
Well, we're very concerned about the way our food is prepared.
You know, from the time something is growing in the ground to the time it gets in your plate, so many things happen to it that in many cases you've lost a lot of the nutritional value.
And that's very problematic.
So one of the changes is with the SNAP program, eliminating from the ability to purchase some of the very unhealthy foods.
And we've replaced them with twice as many healthy foods.
So it's not like we're taking food away from people, but we're replacing it with healthy food.
I think that's incredibly important because there's so many chronic diseases going on in our society.
Not just a weight problem, not just diabetes, but all kinds of chronic diseases that affect growth and development of children.
And that's a particular concern because, you know, that's our future.
We have a large number of children with ADHD, autism, and various developmental abnormalities that don't seem to be present in societies where they eat differently than we do.
I think it's really important that you did qualify that while you took some of the junk food out of the SNAP program, it was replaced with even more healthier foods.
Not just healthier, but more of those foods.
Yes, twice as many as we removed.
So I know that's the first place whether that likes to attack.
They're taking food away from people.
They want people to starve.
Exactly.
I think people get tired of that hyperbole all the time.
There's always a hyperbole.
Now, you did.
So one of the things you brought up, SNAP, and there was a lot of SNAP fraud that's been uncovered.
Can you quickly share that, the details of that and why the discovery matters?
Yeah, well, first of all, we spent $100 billion a year on the SNAP program.
That's a lot of money.
And looking at a number of states and one territory, we found a large number of people who double dip.
They apply for benefits in one state, then they apply for it in another state.
Sometimes multiple applications within the same state, false Social Security numbers so they can reserve spots for themselves.
It's really quite disgusting, some of the things that go on.
But when people are caught at this, they decide, don't do that again.
I mean, there's no real penalty.
So, you know, why wouldn't they keep doing it?
Right.
You know, one of the things, when you said that you have a lot of hyperbole that surrounds some of the things that you do, or for a lot of people in the administration right now, and one of the things I heard you talk about once was division and civil discourse.
And I want to ask you specifically how you deal with it, because you are attacked frequently.
And yet, those of us who know you or have known you for a long time know that you are a genuinely very good man and you care very much about the people of this country and you care about their health.
So you once said that Americans agree on about 80% of issues, but we focus on just that 20% that divides us.
Why do you think that division has become so amplified today?
And also, how do you personally deal with that division when it when it turns into an attack on something that you may be doing?
Well, I think, unfortunately, the media and Hollywood and the leftists derive some type of pleasure or power from having people divided.
They don't want us to be working together.
And that's something that Marxists always do, always do when they want to come in and change a society and take control.
They have people fighting on the basis of race.
That's one big one.
Age, income, gender, political affiliation, religion.
Those are the biggies.
And it works.
So I personally deal with it by just using perspective.
I say, how long can they bother me?
How long can they attack me against the backdrop of eternity?
That's about that long.
I like that.
Why don't we pay attention to it?
That's good advice.
And I think that's a good advice for young people.
I mean, is there anything else that we should be saying or teaching our young people on how to disagree without dehumanizing one another?
Because we really have been doing that.
Well, you know, it goes back to some of the very values and principles that started our country, faith being one of them.
And one of the pillars of our Judeo-Christian faith is love your neighbor, not cancel your neighbor, not hate your neighbor if they disagree with you.
And we need to get back to that again.
And teach people that it's okay to disagree.
If two people agree about everything, one of them isn't necessary.
So everybody's necessary.
And just learn how to talk to people about the difference.
That was a key thing about Charlie Kirk.
He wanted to hear what they had to say.
And he always put them first in the program.
Let's hear what you have to say.
And why do you believe that?
Well, a lot of times they will have a great deal of difficulty explaining why they believe it.
Just like, you know, I've had several arguments with scientists who say, you know, no, there's no God.
There's no evidence for that.
And we just came about, there was a big bang and everything was organized.
And I said, do you believe in the second law of thermodynamics, entropy, that things move toward a state of disorganization?
So you're saying there was a big bang and everything became perfectly organized?
How do you explain that?
That's a good question.
Well, billions and billions and billions and billions of years, there'll be enough explosions that one of them would be the perfect explosion.
So you're saying if I blow a hurricane through a junkyard enough times over a long enough period of time, a fully formed 747 ready to fly will show up at the end of one of them.
And then they realize how silly it is.
That's a great argument.
I love that.
You know, you mentioned Marxism, and that's a boy.
You know, Marxism loves to cause the chaos and so forth.
And my monologue today was about socialism.
And I remember a post that you had done.
I think it was a recent one about capitalism.
You said capitalism isn't failing young Americans.
Leftist policies are.
And yet the young Americans have no idea that that's what's failing them.
And they would point to the government or capitalism and say, you're the bad guy.
Well, they don't even know what socialism is.
I mean, they think it's being familiar with social media.
They really don't know what it is.
And if they would just take a little bit of time to see what has happened in countries that move in that direction, you don't have to go very far.
Look at Venezuela.
You know, I've been to Venezuela a number of times before they switched.
And it was a beautiful country.
It had lots of beautiful resorts and hotels and museums and all kinds of things.
People were happy.
And in a matter of a decade, you know, it's gone from the wealthiest country in South America to the worst.
Yeah, and so many have left that country.
And they love that country.
They loved Venezuela.
And the same thing would happen here.
It happens everywhere.
But people don't read.
And socialists and Marxists and communists, the last thing they want you to do is be educated.
Because if you know history, then you'll know they're trying to sell you a bunch of crap.
And they don't like that.
So they try to keep people ignorant.
And, you know, I'm always amazed when I see these men on the street interviews, and they go up to the young people on the beach or wherever, ask them simple questions.
They don't know anything.
And those are easily led.
Let me ask you a question because I'm alarmed at the number of politicians now who are embracing the label socialist, where in the past they would kind of shy away from it.
They might have believed in socialist policies, but they wouldn't want to embrace it, certainly, if they were running for office.
Now we see people boldly embracing it.
And these people are winning elections.
Are you concerned?
I mean, sometimes I worry, was 250 years it?
Is that it?
Is that it where freedom goes?
250 years and then we're done?
Well, I am concerned.
You know, it's hard for people to buy the ideal of the American dream when they can't buy a home.
I bought my first home when I was 33 years old, and it cost $126,000.
That very same home today is $606,000.
And salaries haven't risen commensurate with the prices of the homes.
So we need to be very serious when we look at them to say, how do we get those costs down?
And, you know, the regulatory burden on housing, building, selling, maintaining, is enormous.
And we keep adding more.
And what we should be doing is what Trump did, the first administration.
He said, for every regulation, you have to get rid of two.
Yes.
And we got rid of a lot more than two.
We got more than 2,000 at HUD.
It makes a big difference.
And there's a lot of low-hanging fruit, duplication.
Just get rid of all the duplication.
That would be a big chunk right there.
Can we do it?
We could.
And we're working on it now.
Okay.
We're moving in the right direction.
It takes more than four years to get these things done.
You have to untangle a lot of stuff.
And it's difficult.
But I'm praying that we have not only these four years, but another at least eight after that.
You and me both.
We really are praying for that.
Can I ask you something real quick?
We only have two minutes, but if you can do it in two, that'd be great.
After everything you've experienced, you've been through poverty to prominence.
What do you most want young Americans to understand to live a fuller life, even with the challenges that we have right now?
I would say the key thing to understand is that the person who has the most to do with what happens to you is you.
And don't depend on somebody else.
Don't depend on the government.
Be grateful that God has given us a country where you have the freedom to pursue the things that you want to pursue.
It's not like that all around the world, that's for sure.
You're absolutely right.
But you have to get your hands dirty.
You have to get in there and you have to work.
And if you do that, America is a land of great promise.
It will reward you.
That's what I'm a ton of.
Thank you for that.
Those are good words.
I appreciate that.
And let's just keep praying for a good new year and that people's eyes would be opened in 2026.
All right.
Well, thank you for being a patriot.
We appreciate you.
Yeah, we appreciate you too very much.
Keep up the good work.
Dr. Ben Carson, thank you so much for joining us today.
I appreciate you.
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I want to get to you, but I just want to mention that he said that Dr. Carlson saved his son's life.
He operated on him as a child.
I've heard such great stories about Dr. Carson and his time in pediatrics as a neurosurgeon.
Can't wait to talk to you, David.
You too.
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Presidents from both parties in moments of crisis, decisions, grief, and reflection, make room for prayer.
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She is Jenny Korn, and she will join us when we return.
Don't go wait because she's doing amazing things at that White House.
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Linda absolutely adores her.
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