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Dec. 11, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Defending Dignity
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All right, Leonard Skinnard, simple man.
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That means all things.
Bill O'Reilly, all things Bill O'Reilly at billo'reilly.com.
Mr. O'Reilly, sir, your favorite, your favorite part of the week is being on with me.
How are you, sir?
I'm the same, Annie, which is tragic for everyone, you know?
I want to play a longer clip than I usually do when I have you on the program, but I'm sick and tired of something.
And, you know, I got to give credit.
I'll tip my hat to a Democrat, John Fetterman, Pennsylvania.
And he condemned the attacks against Erica Kirk.
He's been out promoting Charlie's last book.
He finished it a month before he was assassinated.
Stop in the name of God, why honoring the Sabbath will transform your life.
And Fetterman said, you know, and there's so many people that are spreading wild, bizarre, hateful conspiracy theories, saying the most vile things about her, about Charlie, about Turning Point USA.
All of it combined has me just so angry about it.
I'm so sick and tired.
Leave this family alone.
Leave, you know, let Charlie rest in peace.
Let his widow grieve.
Let their children have to, you know, deal with the reality they'll never see their father again in their lifetime.
And what Fetterman said is it is gross.
It is dehumanizing to attack a widow with young children after just witnessing his public assassination.
It shouldn't be controversial to put our political views aside and extend the grace for a deeply traumatized family to grieve.
Good for him.
She on Outnumbered on Fox earlier today dealt with a lot of this garbage head on.
Here's part of what she said.
Talk to me about this part of the conspiracies that are out there, this disturbing part that people are trying to guess where Charlie is.
Can I have one thing?
Can I have one thing?
Can my children have one thing?
Everything was public.
We will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband at Turning Point USA, and it will be for the world to see, and it will be spectacular.
And it will have basically museum style for our Charlie, for my Charlie.
But can I have one thing?
Can my babies have one thing where we hold it sacred, where my husband is laid to rest, where I don't have to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming and destroying my husband's grave while my daughter is sitting there praying?
One thing, that this is my husband.
Yes, he was Charlie Kirk to the world, and I know so many people love my husband, and I am grateful for that.
But this is my husband.
And I want to be able to have one thing left that is sacred to our family, to my in-laws, to my babies, and to my parents.
One thing.
So, Bill, both of us in the course of our careers have dealt with a lot of lies, a lot of conspiracy theories being peddled about us.
I think both of us are pretty tough.
We're used to it.
We put ourselves in the arena.
Not a big deal.
But this is grotesque.
There was one woman on X. Never mind the conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie's death, which are just total, complete Adam shift.
It's just bullshit, if you will.
And it shouldn't, you know, and what it what in this case, the comments that Fetterman shared in his post were a liberal podcaster calling Erica a grifter who should be kicked to the curb.
It is evil.
It is repulsive.
And I just want your thoughts on it because I don't know.
I think we have a perspective that's different and more unique than other people because we live a lot of it.
Well, it goes right to my book, Confronting Evil.
That's what this is all about.
And when you read the book, you'll see 15 people who devoted their lives to harming other human beings.
So you have a segment of the population in this world, and you can put Giadis in there.
You can put Putin in there.
He's on a cover confronting evil.
A whole bunch of people who they get up every morning and their goal is to hurt other people.
See, evil's not complicated, and it never gets better.
There's no rehab for it.
So the woman that you're referring to, I did a story on her last night.
I very rarely do this kind of stuff for exactly the reasons that you say that I've been dealing with 30 years.
You've been dealing with it for 30 years.
We're well-paid professionals, and we can fight back because we have vehicles.
But Charlie Kirk's family cannot.
Now, they have access to the media, and she's a very articulate woman.
It's on your program, and she is, I think, pretty courageous to take this head on because a lot of people just fold.
And that's the goal of the evil.
That is the goal to collapse what is good.
And so what's the genesis of Charlie Kirk?
Why do they hate him so much?
It's not politics.
You know, a lot of people think it's politics because he was a conservative guy.
And it's not that.
It's religion.
That's what drives the evildoers mad because he was making inroads among younger people in America in particular who have largely rejected religion and spirituality, but he was bringing it back.
Therefore, he became a major threat to the secular brigades, many of whom are unbalanced, as this woman is, I believe, who posted this horrible stuff.
But let me add, Bill, it's not just this liberal podcaster.
There are people that claim to be MAGA, claim to be conservative.
You want to name the woman?
Well, no, I don't, actually.
I don't want to give attention to these people.
I really don't.
I don't think they're worthy of our attention, but I'll tell you, but it's not just one woman.
No.
I mean, there is this vile hatred that has emerged on both extremes, right and left, not where you are, not where I am, you know, not that want the best for the country and the best for the people of this country.
And I urge people on this show all the time, you got to understand in this new environment where anybody can have their own talk show, that they're in the business of clicks.
They're in the business of saying the most outrageous thing in the hopes that they're going to garner some attention and they convert that attention, those clicks, into dollars.
That's partly what's motivating them, right or wrong.
It's right, but the real extremists are mentally ill.
And there's a lot of them.
Well, you read my message of the day today.
I didn't see today's message of the day.
It's a growing danger, and it's very hard to constrain it.
When I go out, I have to read the room, and you do too.
And both Hannity and O'Reilly, and I'm speaking for Hannity now, but that's okay.
We're cautious, and we're not flouncing around.
You know, we take our time, particularly when we're in public, and we alert people that we're going to be there and take steps.
And we do this because of what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Well, honestly, look, I don't talk a lot about it, but I do want people to know because it's, of course, it's absolutely true.
I mean, I had a real fatwa in my head, had to travel with full-time security, had to have my home secured.
My kids were young at the time.
I'm sure you've had white powder mailed to you.
I've had it happen numerous times.
The level of threat, I got a threat this week in the mail.
And they also threatened in the letter Governor Ron DeSantis.
And the first thing I have to do is I have to bring in my security team, which I pay for, and alert the governor, obviously, which I did immediately, and let him know that this is out there.
Now, do I talk a lot about it on the air?
I don't.
Do you?
You don't?
No.
But I think in light of the culture that we're living in, it is the most reminiscent of the 60s than at any other point in my adult life.
And I think you agree with that.
Yes, but I want something further.
And I, again, it goes back to confronting evil.
I want people, regular folks listening to us right now, if you see this in your neighborhood, somebody who's unbalanced, somebody who's destructive, somebody who's taking a spray can of paint and doing that kind of stuff, you have to report it.
You have to get involved.
You can't turn away from it.
Because the good people vastly outnumber the bad people.
I got a letter this week.
This is unbelievable.
So the guy, and there's no protections now with the amount of accessibility that the internet provides.
I get a letter and he goes, you know, he's almost threatening me because I said that Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Confederate general, slaughtered Union troops who had their hands up and who founded the Ku Klux Klan, who founded it.
That's supposed to be controversial.
The guy writes and goes, you deserve to be taken off the earth because all General Forrest was doing was sticking up for the war of southern independence.
Now, what is it?
But this is how unbalanced.
And my question in the message of the day on billorilly.com was, is this a growing loon brigade?
Are there more now than there used to be?
And I think there is because of the Trump hatred.
I think that has lighted a fuse and it made it easier for mentally imbalanced people who read this garbage every day on the internet to act out.
All right, quick break, right back.
All things, Bill O'Reilly, allthings simple man at billorilly.com.
We'll get to more Bill and then your calls on the other side, 800-941-Sean as we continue.
Now, all things simple man, Bill O'Reilly, all things O'Reilly at billo'reilly.com as we continue.
And don't forget his new book, number one, New York Times bestseller, Confronting Evil, Assessing the Worst of the Worst.
Great gift for Christmas.
We see the number of threats, the level of threats against ICE agents have gone up over 1,200%, according to Tom Homan.
And I think it's directly related to the rhetoric of radicals in this country that are calling them Nazis and fascists and Gestapo and politicians like Mamdani, you know, giving instructions on how they should deal with ICE and apps that are being, you know, that are now nationwide that tell people when ICE is about to have a raid and taking away the element of surprise and putting their lives in jeopardy.
And Gavin Newsom supporting a law where they can't even cover their face, although people that guard him can cover their faces.
Well, there is a radical left movement in this country that's certainly destructive, and it outnumbers the radical right, because I've analyzed this.
There are real loons on the right, but not that many of them.
But the difference is that the members of the established media give the progressive loons cover.
They legitimize it.
And that is very disturbing to me.
So everybody should be rejecting hatred no matter where it comes from.
That's my message.
But you're not getting that now.
You know, a guy like George Soros, he pumps billions with a B into organizations that are threatening.
These organizations are threatening.
Who do you think's behind all this ICE stuff?
It's Soros-funded organizations.
Anyway, do you want to stay?
Because we're up on a break.
I'd like to ask you one more question about this, and then I'll let you go.
And by the way, you're not taking off next week.
You're working next week.
I don't want to hear.
I heard Bill O'Reilly wants off next week.
No, I'm working next Wednesday.
The president is going to be addressing the nation, and I want to get your thoughts on it.
So you're working.
No, I'm here.
I'm here for you, Annity.
I'll have my next Wednesday.
By the way, it may sound a little odd, but Bill's book, Number One Bestseller on the New York Times, Confronting Evil, Assessing the Worst of the Worst, actually is a good book because you need to understand that evil does exist.
Okay, I really have one last question.
Well, a statement and a question.
So with everybody, and I predicted this years ago, that there's going to come a day and a time, and it's kind of upon us, where anybody and everybody that wants a talk show can have one.
And what I'm telling people is to be on the lookout and be selective in terms of the people that they want to listen to.
Now, I'm not telling people, oh, you should listen to Sean Hannity or only listen to Bill O'Reilly.
I'm not saying that at all.
Listen to whoever you want.
I think there's some very gifted, talented people out there.
I think Droe Rogan is one of them.
I find him very interesting.
He's one person.
But then there are telltale signs of people that I want no part of.
If somebody praises Hitler, I'm not interested in that person, that show, or what they have to say.
If somebody's anti-Semitic, I'm not interested in that person, that show, or what they have to say.
If that person is racist, a white nationalist, I'm not interested in what that person has to say or what they're doing on their show.
And, you know, there's a term in our industry called shooting down.
And that is, if I give out the names, most of which you probably, this is a very smart audience can figure out anyway.
If you can just figure it out on your own.
But I'm telling you, there is a toxicity.
It's almost like a cancer that is social media, and people get addicted to it.
And as they get addicted to it, which I kind of, which leads me to a topic, we're going to do a lot on this tonight, you know, about how Australia is banning phones and gadgets and gizmos for kids that are 16 and under.
And I find that very, very interesting.
It's a social media ban for children that takes effect.
And I just want this audience, which really is smarter than the rest of the country, in my view, and not because you listen to me, but because you're thoughtful, informed, you're up to speed.
You want the minutiae.
You want the details.
I just urge people to be selective and be on the lookout for people that are just frauds, even those that claim that they are MAGA, they like Trump, they're conservative, they're real conservatives.
You know, do a little background check, do a little research, use Grok, use ChatGPT, use Google, and you can find out that usually they're the grifters.
Usually they're the fair weather friends.
Usually they're the ones that were nowhere near Donald Trump when it mattered.
Am I wrong, Mr. O'Reilly?
I just had this conversation with my urchins.
It's very interesting.
By the way, for those that are not informed, Bill O'Reilly refers to his children as urchins.
Right.
And they're proud.
They're proud of that moniker.
It's very interesting you bring it up because it's the conversation that I just had with them.
So they're young adults now.
And I made two points.
I said, you know, in the world, obviously in the United States part of the world, people, most of them, believe what they want to believe.
So I believe in God.
Why?
I've never seen him or her, but I want to believe in it.
And my mind, a linear mind, tells me that, hey, I don't think we could have developed from a paramecium.
Okay?
It just doesn't make any sense.
But I want to believe in a just God, that at the end, the good will be rewarded and the bad will not.
But my job as a journalist, as a human being, as a father, is to seek the truth.
And you cannot do that.
You cannot seek the truth.
If you are going into the world of charlatans, the world of deception, the world of exploitation, the world of hatred, the world of evil.
If you are going into that world, if you help those people, you are a massive part of the problem.
You have to reject it.
And most human beings know what's good and what isn't good.
There's no excuse on that front.
And I looked at him and I, you know, I said, I expect you with the O'Reilly name to be seekers of the truth, to try to find out what is real and what is not.
And that was a conversation.
I have the same conversation, a little different, a little different, but very similar in tone.
And the message is very similar.
Mr. O'Reilly, we appreciate you.
Thanks for being with us all thing.
Simpleman, BillO'Reilly at BillO'Reilly.com.
Thank you, sir.
We'll talk to you next week.
Nice to have me.
800-941-Sean, our number, you want to be a part of the program?
Gail, next.
Well, hang on a second.
I got to go to this call in my free state of Florida.
Tom in Florida.
Tom, how are you?
You're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Sean.
Great to talk to you.
I've been trying to talk to you for years.
And of course, welcome to the free state of Florida.
Sean, if you should give Katie, you should double her pay, by the way.
She's fantastic.
How about you pay?
How about you double her pay?
Why don't you pay it out of your pocket if you like Katie so much and you want to suck up to Katie so much?
Because my pocket isn't as big as yours.
How do you know how big my pocket is?
Everyone seems to assume.
Look, I'm not going to lie.
It's bigger than I ever thought it would be.
But good grief.
The fact that people care about this stuff is unbelievable to me because nobody cared when I had no money and I did radio for free.
Well, trust me.
Trust me, Sean.
I'm in an artistic craft as well.
I'm a full-time actor at voiceover talent, and I've done plays.
I love that.
So I get it.
But actually, that dovetails to my point.
And Katie said for me to get right to my point.
So let me do so.
I was motivated to call because I have the opposite problem of the gentleman that you spoke to in New York yesterday.
I'm a lifelong New York.
I grew up in New York, so forth.
I've been in Florida 36 years, but I have the opposite problem, which I think is a long-term problem for the United States.
And I'm originally from Binghamton, and I know you know that town because you were, you did a thing with Ted Cruz there.
But I looked very seriously because of the nature of my business after I sold my house.
I'm out at the beach now of going back in to upstate New York and buying back the house that I grew up in.
And here's what happened.
I could buy that house right now in Binghamton and have a good chunk of cash left over, nowhere near what you've got, but I'd be fine.
And the thing is, that house today is about $6,200 in property tax.
I figured my property tax to buy that house back, Sean.
And I'm close to $13,000 a year if I buy that house back.
Yeah, because you're going to buy it back.
They're going to reassess it and you're going to pay double.
No, well, that's like you're making my point for me.
It's $6,000 now.
I'm going to pay $12,000 to $13,000.
So I figured all that out.
So here's my point.
And unless you're a Sean Hannity or a Rush Limbaugh, anybody that's coming out of a blue state, especially New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Pennsylvania, there is no financial incentive to go back to that blue state.
Well, here's what we got out of New York today.
New York ranks 45th in terms of a state being affordable.
45th.
Here's the thing.
Florida now is going to have a referendum in 26.
We'll have Governor DeSantis on in the new year to talk more specifically about it.
But these states are going to continue to bleed and chase away, you know, anybody with a decent net worth.
And I'm not talking about the super rich here.
If you make a hundred grand, 150 grand in New York and you live in New York City, I promise you, you are, you are living paycheck to paycheck and you're not living in the biggest apartment in the world.
It is that expensive.
But listen, I got your point.
Tom, God bless you.
I wish all the best in your career.
Voice over work is a specialty that only people with really good pipes can get into.
And God bless you.
And I hope you are very successful.
All right, quick break right back to our busy phones.
Here's our toll-free number: 800-941-Sean, as we continue.
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Gail is in California.
Gail, you're on the Sean Hennity show.
Hi.
Hey, well, I almost followed Bill O'Reilly.
Christmas greetings from a conservative pocket of California.
I wanted to talk about Christmas carols.
And I have to say, I agree with both you and Linda.
Yeah, but you agree with me more, right?
Well, I love most traditional Christmas carols, but sorry, Linda, I didn't even like Little Drummer Boy until I heard for King and Country's wild version of it with lots and lots of real drums.
And I wanted to know if either of you had ever heard that version.
I have not heard that version.
Why don't you play?
Who's running the board today?
Play one of my Christmas bumper music songs that I like because I find this so spectacularly creative.
Beautiful.
I love Trans-Siberian Orchestra as well.
And I got introduced to Mannheim Steamroller by Rush, and he played it on his show.
I love Mannheim Steamroller.
Let me give you one little piece about Rush.
I remember many years ago being in his New York City apartment, and he abandoned New York also.
And Rush loved, loved music.
I mean, he would crank it up and just, you know, I remember, oh, what's his name?
Barry White.
And he was playing a Barry White song.
And I mean, he's pointing out things in the music that I never would have picked up on my own.
I'm like, okay.
And when he had a passion for something, he went all in.
Like the last time I saw Rush, he gave me not one, but he gave me two iPhones because he had a passion for technology.
If Rush was into music, he had a passion for music, which is kind of the sad part of, you know, when it, when he had his hearing issue.
And he had a passion for freedom and liberty in this country.
And, you know, that's why I said, no, you can never replace Rush.
You just can't.
I listened to him from the mid-80s, early to mid-80s.
He's home yet.
They have your song.
Let's play it enough time, but I got to be honest, Gail.
I think you got good taste.
Well, thank you very much.
I listened to you after all.
Oh, you're very kind.
Thank you.
I just want to tell you something.
I wish you, this is not a public school.
I can say happy Hanukkah.
I can say Merry Christmas.
And I wish you all of God's blessings in the new year.
Okay.
We can mention God and Christmas on this show.
It's legal.
Yo, good, and always will be.
God bless.
And you can wear a MAGA hat or shirt when you're listening and watching TV.
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