In this episode of Sean's podcast, he dives deep into the contentious issues surrounding open borders and the current state of policing in America. With a focus on the alarming rise in drug-related deaths linked to cartels, Sean discusses President Trump's efforts to combat these threats and the legal aspects of targeting drug traffickers labeled as enemy combatants. Joined by legal experts, he examines the consequences of narco-terrorism and what it means for the safety of American citizens. Tune in for an insightful discussion that unpacks these pressing issues facing our nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'll never understand the mind of the wacky left, the lunatic fringe left, why they would want open borders, why they have no problem, you know, teaching people, trying to educate people how to avoid ICE.
You know, no problem with the fact that there's a 1,200% increase in threats on ICE agents and why they don't seem moved at all about open borders that has led to the death of innocent Americans because they've allowed in known terrorists and murderers and rapists, other violent criminals.
We report on it every day.
Cartel members, gang members, and drug dealers.
I don't know.
I have a hard time understanding that mindset.
I have a hard time understanding a mindset that doesn't understand fundamental policing and the need for policing in our small towns and big cities all across the country.
And they want defund, dismantle, and no bail laws.
I'll never understand what part, and I guarantee everyone listening to this program knows somebody who had, or maybe it's a family member of yours, maybe it's a friend of a family member that knows somebody that didn't die of a drug overdose, fentanyl overdose, opioid addiction, and then resulting in overdose.
And, you know, the death is insane.
President Trump has been addressing this issue and taking out these narco-terrorists.
And he claims that, you know, every time we blow up one of those boats with all those drugs headed to your town and your city, we're saving around 25,000 lives.
Here's what he said.
So every boat we knock out of the water, every boat we save 25,000 American lives.
That was a boat loaded up with drugs.
I saw the video.
They were trying to turn the boat back to where it could float.
And we didn't want to see that because that boat was loaded up with drugs just like everything else.
But every boat we shoot down, and I don't know if you know, we're 92 or 94% down in drugs coming in by the sea.
And we're trying to find who were the 6% because I don't know, people aren't liking to drive boats right now loaded up with drugs.
But every single, think of that, every single boat we shoot at on average, we save 25,000 American lives.
Do you feel okay about that, Corey?
Keep us safe.
Okay.
I know my man.
What about you?
Okay.
Now, on top of that, Pete Hegseth said the days of narco-terrorists operating in our hemisphere, those days are over.
The days in which these narco-terrorists, designated terror organizations, operate freely in our hemisphere are over.
These narco-terrorists are the al-Qaeda of our hemisphere, and we are hunting them with the same sophistication and precision that we hunted Al-Qaeda.
We are tracking them.
We are killing them.
And we will keep killing them so long as they are poisoning our people with narcotics so lethal that they're tantamount to chemical weapons.
Even Senator Bernie Moreno of Ohio said every boat we stop saves 25,000 lives.
Democrats don't care about Americans.
They didn't care.
They lied about open borders.
They lied about, for some reason, they think defund, dismantle, no bail, reimagine the police.
They're not putting the lives and the safety of the American people first.
Now, what they had in the case that became so controversial, well, finally, when we got the details of it, it turns out that it was not as initially reported.
It was not innocent people, but listen to Martha Rabbits.
Remember, this is the woman that cried when Donald Trump was elected in 2016.
Not exactly a Trump fan.
Tonight, new information.
According to a source familiar with the incident, the two survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike.
They were believed to be potentially in communication with others and salvaging some of the drugs.
Because of that, it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets.
A JAG officer was also giving legal advice.
So, again, David, that video will be key.
All right, here on the legality of all this, Brian finches with us, partner at Pillsbury Winthrop, where he co-chairs the firm's global security practice.
Our very own Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, number one New York Times best-selling author.
I don't think this is a difficult legal issue at all to me.
This is a designated terrorist organization.
The president has constitutional authority as commander-in-chief, Greg Jarrett.
And the idea that we now have confirmation that these guys were still engaged trying to retrieve their drugs, get back in the boat, and in communication with other people, tells me that they were then still a target.
Is there any ambiguity for you?
None whatsoever.
And you're so right, Sean, to point out that these Venezuelan drug cartels smuggling deadly fentanyl and cocaine into the U.S. have killed hundreds of thousands of young Americans.
I mean, the administration has every legal right to defend its citizens from the lethal poison by using lethal military force.
It's more than a right, it's a duty of the president to defend the citizenry.
And it is absolutely lawful under both U.S. and international law.
It complies fully with the law of armed conflict.
Maduro's murderous regime is behind the smuggling, and the cartels are officially designated by our government as armed terror organizations as such.
They're enemy combatants.
They can be legally targeted by Trump under the president's constitutional war powers.
But more than that, it was already authorized by Congress under the Authorization for Use of Military Force, the AUMF.
That granted the president the power to act against terrorism of any kind.
His only obligation is to notify Congress, which he did.
And as a precaution, the White House received approval in advance from the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel.
But they also got there.
Apparently, there was in the situation room at the time a JAG lawyer that gave specific approval for the second strike.
Is that not true?
It is true.
And look, under the law of armed conflict, enemy combatants can be lawfully targeted with deadly force in any hostilities.
Those who are protected, that's civilians, medical workers, religious personnel, POWs, wounded sick soldiers.
But that's not what happened here.
The drug traffickers were not mere innocents.
They were not non-participants.
No, they were enemy combatants.
Therefore, they receive no protection under international law.
Now, let's get your take, Brian.
Oh, I completely agree with everything Greg has said.
What we're dealing with here is it's almost reminiscent of pre-9/11, where people, Democrats and opponents of Trump, tried to say this needs to be a law enforcement operation.
Remember, when we had the bombings in Africa, the embassies and the World Trade Center in 1993, and even the coal bombing, they all said, well, this is a law enforcement issue.
We should be stopping them.
We should be arresting them.
We should be prosecuting them to evidence and see how well that worked out.
President Trump made the same exact decision as Greg rightly pointed out.
He has the authority under the Constitution to take these acts.
Congress wants to do something.
If they object to it, they can take action and they haven't done so.
They have assented to what is going on, and everything has been done consistent with the lawful international arms law, the Haid Convention, Geneva Conventions, all those conventions that can apply.
And what we're dealing with here is just more misrepresentations by the mainstream media trying to create a straw man argument saying that the president is acting unlawfully, couldn't get him under state law, couldn't get him under federal law.
Now they're appealing to international law, trying yet another way to conduct this lawfare against the president.
And it's not working because it's simply not true and it's inapplicable.
Quick break, right back more with Brian Finch and Greg Jarrett, the legality of Donald Trump taking out these narco-terrorists that want to destroy our youth.
And it's killing, you know, over decades, millions of Americans.
And he said, no, that's a terrorist act against our country.
Not going to happen anymore.
More on the legality on the other side.
Then your call's coming up.
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All right, we continue now.
The legality of President Trump's actions against these narco-terrorists coming out of Venezuela.
We continue with Brian Finch.
He is the partner at Pillsbury Winthrop.
Greg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analyst, are with us.
It's like the left, it's pretty remarkable to me that, you know, that they even, even though we don't recognize the International Criminal Court at all, nor should we, and I don't believe we should even be a part of any of these international organizations at all, Greg Jarrett.
You know, did they forget all the actions taken by previous presidents in modern day presidents?
That would be Obama.
That would be Clinton.
That would be George W. Bush.
That would be Joe Biden.
They all took these actions.
Past presidents, as you point out, Sean, have used the so-called war on terrorism statutes that were passed by Congress to take identical actions.
Democrats and their media handmaidens are raging against Donald Trump, but they didn't seem to care at all when Barack Obama went after terrorism targets with deadly drone strikes routinely carried out so-called double taps, triple taps.
I mean, Obama approved roughly 540 strikes, killing some 3,400 people.
Biden did the same thing.
Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere.
No complaints from Democrats.
When Obama and Biden did it, it was lawful.
When Trump does it, it is somehow now magically the opposite.
Oh, it's a war crime.
That is legally absurd, as Brian has pointed out.
Well, I think it's basic.
Do you want to weigh in on previous presidents, Brian?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, it even goes back further than that.
I mean, it goes back to FDR saying shoot on site against German submarines before we declared war in 1941.
And when you talk about President Obama and President Biden and others, don't forget they were killing American citizens.
You want to talk about, you know, violation of due process before we even get into the law of international armed conflict.
These were strikes on people born in the United States, and people didn't complain about that.
Why?
Because there was a Democratic president that everyone loved in the media.
They wanted to protect him and his reputation to make him look strong.
And so they were okay with it.
But now Trump derangement syndrome is everywhere.
All it takes is one little whisper to say, oh, this might not have been right.
Someone might have said, let's kill them all.
And it becomes an international incident.
Well, apparently that was not said.
That order was not given.
And that's just, you know, the media perpetrating another hoax.
You know, Greg Jarrett wrote two number one best-selling books on hoaxes.
And the only difference this time, Brian, is that we found out the truth earlier.
Oh, you're 100% right.
There's no way those comments were said, even if the president, let's just take for a second the fact that the president said, I want all those people on the boat.
He has the authority to do that.
You can conduct targeted killings.
The media and Democratic opponents are acting as if that's not allowed under law.
It absolutely is.
But again, in what you pointed out and what everyone seems to forget or doesn't want to report on, lawyers were involved in every single step of this.
You're out of your mind if you think that there isn't legal justification, carefully researched and carefully justifying everything that the president has ordered, Secretary Hegseth has ordered, all of his military commanders have ordered.
This is being done by the book.
And what people are doing is they're creating false facts, false narratives, misrepresentations of what the law says and how you can justify these acts under American law, under international law, et cetera, all to create this narrative that this is a lawless administration willing to do anything to make the president look at.
It's just not true.
It's fantasy.
It's as pathetic as it is predictable.
It really is.
Greg, we'll give you the last word.
Yeah, I mean, it is pretty shameful the way all of this emerged from a Washington Post story that was hysterical based on anonymous sources.
And they got the facts fundamentally wrong.
You know, no surprise from the newspaper that won a Pulitzer for getting the Russia hoax wrong.
And they never gave the prize back.
Oddly enough, it was the New York Times that debunked the post story.
And then, of course, ABC News came along and said, no, it's also completely wrong for a different reason.
So, you know, never trust the mainstream media is sort of the lesson to be learned here.
Yeah, well, I think it's a lesson we learned every single day.
And as I said to Brian, I mean, it took us years.
We were unpeeling every layer of that onion to get to the truth about the Russia hoax.
And if anything, we were proven more right than we even knew we were back then.
And thankfully, you were able to chronicle all of it into two best-selling books that, you know, really shows us how far the government can go awry, especially with a compliant, complicit media that is rooted in corruption and is not willing to tell people the truth.
Appreciate both of you.
Brian Finch, Greg Jarrett.
Thank you both.
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Now, think about December.
I just, I spent a day in New York and it was miserable.
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The temperature here in the free state of Florida right now is 72 degrees, a little overcast, but I'll take that over.
What is the temperature where you are?
This morning it was 12.
12 degrees.
I think it's about 21 right now.
Well, whether you're warm weather or cool weather or freezing cold weather, I love everyone that tells me, oh, no, no, I love the change of season.
I really do like the cold, Sean.
I really like it.
What's the temperature in Florida?
I mean, it cracks me up because then they're full of it.
I don't believe people love the cold.
I don't, you know.
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I don't know why it is that Democrats just love insulting the people that voted for them.
You know, Arizona went solidly red for Donald Trump in this last election.
And you have Senator Mark Kelly out there and, you know, one of the six people telling, oh, you must not obey unlawful orders, which is basically trying to drive a wedge between our commander in chief and his constitutional authority and the men and women that he leads and put their lives in harm's way.
And he's making it even more dangerous for them.
But putting that aside, you know, we had, for example, Hillary Clinton, irredeemable deplorables, if you don't agree with her.
And, of course, Barack Obama had a lot of nice things to say about the people of Pennsylvania, that they're bitter Americans that cling to their God, guns, Bibles, and religion.
You know, then I think Joe Biden was the one that talked about us being pieces of garbage.
You know, here's the latest version of it coming from Senator Mark Kelly calling millions of Trump voters.
You know, I think he won by, what, two million votes out there in Arizona.
Well, this is what he said about them.
That's what this president does with his words because I hate to say this, but this is true.
More than anybody else in our country, this president's words matter.
People listen to him.
He has supporters.
A lot of those supporters, maybe not a lot, but some of them are crazy.
I mean, in any group, there's always a bunch of crazy people, right?
Yeah.
And he's part of the crazy that is his whole party.
All right, let's go to our busy phones.
Paul in Idaho.
Paul, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thanks for hanging in there.
What's on your mind today?
Hi, Sean.
Hey, I saw at the same time that they displayed their first house being rebuilt in Southern California and the Palisades.
My wife and I were over in Maui where Lahaina was burnt down.
And they are rebuilding like crazy.
There's sticks in the air.
There's wood going up.
They are doing all kinds of stuff.
And little Hawaii is able to do that.
How come California isn't?
Well, question.
I mean, you can answer your own question, right?
I mean, you're from Idaho, so were you once in California?
Did you move from California to Idaho?
A lot of people have.
Certainly did.
I agree.
I mean, very common.
Idaho's been growing by leaps and bounds, doing very, very well.
I have friends in Idaho.
It's a great place.
I've been to Boise.
I've been to a couple of locations in Idaho, you know, in my travels around the country over the years.
And, you know, salt of the earth people there with good common sense.
And considering the neighbors you're surrounded by to the south, Oregon and, you know, and California and the like and Washington State, not exactly common sense territory in either one of those states, in any of those states.
Yep.
We call them refugees.
I was one.
I've been here for 15 years, though, now.
But the other thing about that is in the town that burned up Northern California, it burned down completely from a fire that was started, and it's completely rebuilt.
Did you hear Gavin claim that his hair went on fire during the Pacific Palisades fires?
Did you hear that comment yet?
No.
All right, let me play for you.
It's short, but listen to this claim.
They're in the hills with these guys, and we all turned around when my hair literally burst on.
There's a video of it, and they threw me in the car.
The guy gets my hair and throws me in the car.
He says, get the f ⁇ out of here.
I want to see the video of it.
Gavin's hair went on fire.
Why are we just finding out about it now?
But you raise a point.
I mean, it's been nearly a year, and there's one home rebuilt, and the government is dragging its feet.
The homeowners who lost everything, they're still paying some property taxes, and they must, as a matter of law, apparently, according to a caller to this show, they have to pay for homeowners insurance for a home that doesn't exist.
And it's unbelievable.
It's crazy.
They can't get a permit to rebuild in a year.
It's insane.
Well, you were in construction, so you know how that goes.
I have friends that are in construction here, and they're building like crazy, and it doesn't take very long to put up a house.
You know, it's a permitting process.
It's all the government steps that you have to go through there in California versus here and other states around us.
It's insane.
I mean, they make it expensive and hard and nearly impossible.
And frankly, as far as I'm concerned, there should be a class action lawsuit against the government of California for their utter, complete failure and incompetence.
There's no excuse that there was no water in those hydrants.
There's no excuse that the reservoir was empty as reported.
There's no excuse that people have not gotten their permits by now and that people are not rebuilding.
None.
But, you know, for all the people that put their faith, their hope, their trust, their belief in government, and Democrats are peddling cradle to grave, womb to the tomb government.
For all those people, pay close attention.
This is what you get when government takes over every aspect of your life.
Anyway, got a roll, Paul.
Enjoy your refugee status in the free state of Idaho.
Our friend, Professor Katz, out in the United Socialist Utopia of Gavins, California, by the way, recently, thank God, beat her bout with cancer.
I understand you're in good health.
Is that all true?
That is true.
That is great news.
Listening to you and Linda, that was the medicine.
I listen to you all the time on the radio and watch you on television.
So that did the trend.
Well, I can do a lot of things curing cancers not in my wheelhouse.
There are people that I've been talking to and that I'm going to bring to your attention in the next year.
I'm just glad you're cured.
You're healthy.
Welcome back.
And we're so glad you're with us.
Thank you.
It's so good to hear your voice and Linda's.
And as far as the last caller just made me think of something, of course, living here and growing up and raising my son in California, first of all, I'm so upset that Gavin Newsom has been sending you mean messages.
How dare he?
What is great about California, the weather, the people, the amusement parks, and the beaches were all great before Gavin and will be great after him.
But, like the gentleman just said, you cannot get a permit, even if you're not a fire victim, if you just want to remodel because they want to make California with all these low affording whatever it's called low-cost housing places.
And um, you know he's more concerned with running for president than he is changing anything in California and specifically I I think he'd be good if they ever brought back brill cream as far as his hair.
Um, I would vote for him for that to be on that commercial.
But beyond that, he's not a leader and the way he's been treating ice is so horrendous.
And that was really going to be like why I was calling was that to hear Elon Omar, the place where Somalia has Boca Haram and all kinds of terrorists and what just went on in Minnesota and to hear what Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass say about our wonderful law enforcement and ICE agents who are protecting Americans to compare them and to compare Stephen Miller,
a wonderful man, and put his family in harm's way, calling them Nazis.
I'm so tired and sick of, you know, my mom is now 90.
I don't know if you know this.
Stephen Miller also is Jewish, and to call him a Nazi is beyond the pale.
And what Stephen Miller and his family have had to endure in terms of death threats like so many other people in Donald Trump's orbit is so over the top.
And I'm now directly blaming those people that are using that insightful rhetoric, that dehumanizing rhetoric.
They are playing a major part in this atmosphere where violence and assassination is now a big part of our culture.
It's really horrible.
They have no idea what the Gestapo did, what the Nazis did.
Mom's 98.
Her sisters are 100, and the other one is 96, all Holocaust survivors.
And when we saw Schindler's list, they said, oh, that was a paradise compared to what we went through.
The beatings, the rapes, the tortures, the murders, that's not what ICE is doing.
And for all the people who are listening to garbage on the internet and mainstream media, ICE is doing what Johan Omar talks about what our founding fathers wanted.
Jefferson warned about the Barbary pirates and about radical Islam, you know, hundreds of years ago.
Our country was built on Judeo-Christian beliefs.
We're coming up on Christmas and Hanukkah, and this is a time of peace and light.
And what these people are doing is they're destroying our country.
They're hurting our law enforcement and putting all their families and all of them at risk when all they're trying to do is keep us free and safe.
And I think that's the biggest problem is that most people don't know history and the fact that we just had December 7th in Pearl Harbor.
And that's what prompted people like my dad and the greatest generation to go and fight for freedom and to save this world.
Well, thank God for people like him, right?
I mean, and my father, too, fighting four years in the Pacific and all the other brave men and women that have defended the cause of liberty and freedom so that we can live out our lives as God designed us to.
Professor, we're glad you're healthy.
Thank you.
We have a minute.
We'll give it to Perry in Montana.
It's all yours, Perry.
Sorry, I wish we were not up on a clock, but take it away.
I do too.
But thank you for taking my call, Sean.
I just have to do a basic cliff notes of this.
I wanted to bring the little Mogadishu fraud back into the front burner for a minute.
This taxpayer scheme, rip-off scheme, serves as a textbook example of Democrats' corruption and contempt for a constitutional republic.
You know, $2 billion down yet another radical leftist Islamist rat hole, adding insult to injury.
Millions probably went to al-Shabaab in Somalia.
There's solid evidence that Tampon Tim Walz, Attorney General Keith Ellison, and some state bureaucrats willfully ignored this monumental embezzlement, even as the red flags were flying.
You know, whistleblowers.
They were warned by whistleblowers.
You know, look at the autism issue.
Dr. Oz talked about yesterday.
2018, just a few million dollars and it balloons up to $400 billion.
Are you kidding me?
There's no excuse for this.
Feature for these people.
Anytime they put radical Democrats in control, whether it's federal, state, or local, these people despise patriotism, morality, and our rights and freedoms, and they worship only power, money, and control of our lives.
Think about that.
We have to defy history and make sure they don't get power back.
But I do have to roll.
We're up on the clock, as I told you.
I appreciate the call, Perry.
Love Montana.
Love the people of Montana.
I just want to wrap things up for today.
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