The Fight for Election Integrity: A Deep Dive with Harmeet Dhillon
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We have spent an enormous amount of time on this radio program on TV talking about the need for election integrity in the country.
It's simple.
Why Democrats resist it, I think, is fairly obvious.
They don't want election integrity.
I mean, who wouldn't want voter ID?
Who wouldn't want signature verification?
Who wouldn't want chain of custody controls?
Who wouldn't want paper ballots?
Who wouldn't want updated voter rolls?
Who wouldn't want partisan observers in every precinct watching the voting all day, the vote counting all night?
The reason that Democrats resist this, I can only come to one conclusion is they like the system the way it is because it creates ambiguity and opportunities for them to perhaps at times be nefarious and do things that nobody would know about.
And that should bother every American.
You know, it's so simple if you implement election integrity, you know, issues into every state, every election.
You have paper ballots.
You make exceptions for the sick, the affirmed, elderly, obviously our military that are serving abroad.
They should be able to vote by mail.
But when those mail-in ballots come in sealed, they should, from the minute they arrive, be on a video camera, put in a room, and that camera should be open and available for the public to watch 24-7.
So this way, you know, nothing horrible can happen or nobody can go in there and play games with the ballots that are in there.
But of course, they don't want any of these measures.
I couldn't believe it.
I used to vote in New York when I lived there and obviously now live in the free state of Florida.
And I'd walk in and I knew everybody because I had seen them for years.
Hey, Mr. Hannity.
Hey, Sean, how are you?
What's going on?
And I'd start pulling out my wallet naturally.
And they're like, no, no, no, no, we don't need a wallet.
We don't need ID.
I'm like, this is ridiculous.
It's insane.
Now, that lends itself, if not to actual corruption, to the perception, the belief.
Now, both Democrats and Republicans have claimed that elections have been stolen.
They have claimed that there have been unfair electoral processes during elections.
They have complained about the system.
Anyway, Harmee Dillon is the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice.
She joins us now.
Harmee, welcome back.
How are you?
I'm great, Sean.
Thank you so much for having me back on your show.
I enjoy it.
By the way, look forward to having you on TV soon as well.
We appreciate the work you're doing.
But your civil rights division announced you filed a federal lawsuit against six states, Delaware, Maryland, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington.
Gee, shocker, deep blue states.
Tell us about it.
Sure, absolutely.
Well, this comes on the heels of other lawsuits we've already filed.
Let me give you the rundown.
We've contacted all 50 states to ask them to hand over their voter roll so that we can help them compare with other states and clean them up and compare with our federal immigration and citizenship database.
Four states have voluntarily complied, Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, and Wyoming.
I had to sue North Carolina to clean up their voter rolls.
They breached a settlement with us and they're checking 100,000 records of people who may or may not be citizens.
And if they're not, they're going to take them off.
And then 14 of these states have just told me to go pound sand.
And so we've sued now a total of 14 states in 15 lawsuits.
I've sued California twice.
I do Orange County first, and then I sued the whole state of California.
And so, right now, we're litigating the voter rolls for 115 million people.
And we are marching through the rest of the states as well, even as we speak.
You know, it takes a few weeks between the time we ask them.
They send us back a letter, we negotiate with them.
So, you know, people are frustrated at the pace, but rest assured that we're moving at a breakneck pace here and we are holding people accountable.
And I will also tell your listeners that we have now checked 47.5 million voter records against the saved database.
We have found 260,000 dead people so far on the voter rolls of these handful of states that have voluntarily.
Well, maybe, maybe, maybe, Harmony, maybe their spirits are doing the voting for them.
I don't know.
And some of them may or may not be having their records voted, but it does put 260,000 voter records at risk when you look at mail-in balloting in so many states, Sean.
And so it is a concern.
But here's the big one for you: are several thousand non-citizens on the voter rolls in these states so far that we've checked so far.
And so we are working with law enforcement.
If any of those people voted, they could be at risk of deportation and certainly a criminal record for doing that.
And so that is something that we're handling with the U.S. attorney's offices around the country.
And I'm pretty happy with the progress we've made in just eight months here so far.
We do know the midterms are coming.
And this voter roll project, Sean, is just one of the election litigation things that we're doing on elections.
And so I'm happy to tell you about any of the rest of it, but we've got a very big agenda here and several attorneys working on it full-time around the clock.
Maybe you can explain to me, because I can't figure it out.
And now you've had people like Stacey Abrams, Hillary Clinton, and you've had Republicans complain about election results.
Stacey Abrams, Hillary Clinton, for example, claimed elections were stolen from them.
Now, the measures that we're talking about here, and that is voter ID, signature verification, updated voter rolls for every election, a chain of custody for any mail-in ballots where they're on camera 24-7.
That any voter, if they wanted to, they could check and make sure nobody's tampering with those mail-time ballots.
And also partisan observers in every single precinct across the country.
That means if there's, you know, five different parties on the ticket, five different observers would be there, but the main two would be Republican, Democrat.
And they get to watch the voting in every precinct all day long to make sure no shenanigans go on.
The vote counting all night, they're there.
And I don't mean from a distance of 2,000 feet, but they're there in the room.
They're watching the vote counting.
And, you know, why would anybody be against those measures?
Wouldn't everybody, at the end of the day, then have more confidence in the results?
Wouldn't that lend itself to integrity in the system?
Well, you would think so, Sean.
And, you know, the problem here is a little bit complicated because I administer the federal voting rights laws, and Congress can pass more of those.
But so far, they haven't anytime recently.
So most of the measures that you're talking about are matters of state law.
And under our Constitution, it is the state legislatures that pass these laws.
Now, Congress could pass some laws that apply to federal elections, like voter ID, like some of these others.
They haven't done that for whatever various reasons.
But when states have such laws, I'll give you an example of one that DOJ got involved in.
Wyoming has a voter ID and voter citizenship verification law.
And Democrats came in and tried to challenge that.
And we joined Wyoming's side in that case.
And Wyoming's law was upheld in federal court.
And so that's a victory where a DOJ can step in and help protect the state law.
We're requesting records from Fulton County, Georgia to audit what happened in the 2020 election.
And we're doing that in some other places as well.
Election monitors.
Now, partisan election monitors is something that's guaranteed by state laws in many states.
However, the DOJ can also send election monitors where requested.
So in this off-year election, I sent election monitors into some counties in California and into some counties in New Jersey.
And there's some places where the governor or the attorney general or secretary of state, they didn't want them or the parties didn't request them.
So people should know that they can ask the DOJ.
Parties can Republican or Democrat Party or candidates can ask the DOJ to send election monitors to a tricky jurisdiction or a county, and we will send them if we have the manpower.
And that's part of our job.
We also get involved in redistricting.
So there's just so much activity going on out there.
It's really just whack-a-mole all day.
And I do agree that we need stronger laws.
I want every citizen to accept the outcome of our elections.
And so whenever you see people like governors, like Gavin Newsome trolling the attorney general yesterday and me over these requests, you know, that means they don't want to show their homework.
They don't want the voter rolls to be clean and not asking for ID or citizenship evidence is a feature of the voting system in some states, which allows these illegal aliens or green card holders or student visa holders to get on the voter rolls, which is illegal.
And so you really have to question their motives in not wanting to hew to federal and state law.
All right, quick break.
More with Harmee Dillon.
She is the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Justice.
More with her on the other side.
Then your calls coming up this Friday, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of this show and join us.
We continue now.
Our final moments with Harmee Dillon.
She is the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Justice.
One of the other things that I'm against is all this early voting that takes place.
I mean, some states during presidential election years, those states, you know, early voting can start in September.
Let me give you two recent examples where events unfold between the time early voting starts and the time of election day.
For example, you might recall the weekend before George W. Bush ran in 2000, the story broke that he had previously in his life had a DUI.
That, in my view, had a very big impact on that election.
But had you voted early, you would not have had that knowledge.
More recently, we had the laptop from hell.
And by the way, the FBI verified its authenticity in March of 2020.
And they went about the process of meeting weekly with big tech companies and social media companies, debunking or pre-bunking that very real laptop that they knew was real, saying to these companies that they may be victims of Russian disinformation, but they knew that the story would drop because they knew that Bob Costello, who was then Rudy Giuliani's attorney, had a copy of that laptop.
They knew it would be public.
It did become public just a couple of weeks before the 2020 election.
And even when asked, the FBI, even though they had verified the authenticity of it, when asked by people like Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg, is it real or not, they wouldn't give him the truthful answer.
To me, that's putting cinder blocks on an election by the deep state.
So I ask you, I'm against early voting because you don't know what might unfold from the time you vote till the actual election day.
And that could change people's votes.
But yet it's widespread.
Thoughts?
Well, Sean, you make a very persuasive case for why people should not vote early.
I think Harmito should have been a lawyer.
What do you think?
You are definitely a lot more helpful than many lawyers I encounter, particularly in California.
But no, I think you make some great arguments.
At the same time, you know, I would say some, I think some amount of early voting makes it easier for some people to vote.
Not everybody can get the day off.
So having like a week of early voting helps more people be able to vote.
That's my opinion.
Georgia law for.
Okay, a week is fine, but they do this for months.
A month or six weeks.
And you know what's even worse, Sean, is the acceptance of ballots after election day, which is something we're fighting here at the Department of Justice with our filings in federal court.
I have a huge problem with that.
I mean, the federal law specifies an election day, not an election month or an election quarter.
And I think that's a real problem because what we've seen in states like California and New York is they just keep counting and counting and accepting ballots for a week and 10 days after the fact until the election results change.
And I think that's a real problem.
People then think that it's rigged, whether it is or not.
And so we just have to have an endpoint around these elections.
If you're too disorganized to care enough to get your ballot in, you're going to phone it in or mail it in or whatever, and you're not going to get it in on time, maybe you shouldn't have your vote counted.
Maybe you should treat the sacred privilege and right to vote as such and take it seriously.
I think that's only fair.
Well, I'm warning people now, I'm going to be on a mission starting when I come back after Christmas vacation, letting people know that this is the most consequential midterm in our lifetime, because I really believe it is.
Now, last question: Is Leo 2.0, Terrell?
Is he behaving?
Because he's in your division.
Look, he does a good job getting the word out about.
No, I want to know if he's behaving.
Ask him when you see him: why does Hannity call you Leo 2.0?
Yeah, because there's a reason.
Leo 1.0 regularly, you know, would get mad at me and pissed off at me on television, rip off his microphone, rip out his earpiece, and walk off the set.
I remember that.
And I mean, those are the good old days, Harmie.
Those are fun.
Anyway, Harmee, we do appreciate all you're doing and keep up the good work.
Keep us updated on this.
I think it's very, very important.
And if there are other states that are going to be sued, we want to know about it.
But this is critical towards integrity and confidence and results.
And we are glad you are doing it.
Thank you.
It's always a pleasure, Sean.
I really appreciate your time today.
800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones as we say hi to big time AJ Houston, Texas.
What's going on, baby?
We had a guy yesterday trying to be you.
Didn't pull it off.
Sean Hannity.
Hey, I heard him.
Hey, tell him he got the head of grace with it.
He doesn't have that.
He doesn't have that laugh.
Nobody can duplicate that laugh.
I know that's right, Sean.
Hey, I want to wish you happy Thanksgiving and all that fun stuff.
And hey, I hope we can do the Santa Claus since everything is going good.
Let's see if we can get that if you get a chance to.
If you don't go on vacation fast.
All right, let's give us your best ho-ho-ho.
See, that's a real, that's a believable Santa ho-ho-ho.
All right, I think we got to do this before I hit my long vacation of the year.
You know, I get to this point of year every year and I'm like crawling to the finish line.
And here's the problem, AJ.
I'm like, I'm not a good vacation person.
Are you a good vacation person?
I don't like to be on vacation very long.
No, I don't.
I can't.
I can't.
Within three days, I'm crawling out of my skin.
You know, I like to be around my family and friends, and I do enjoy that part.
I'm not going to lie.
But, you know.
My family has gotten used to.
My close friends have gotten used to the fact that when they turn their back, I'm usually in a room on a phone talking to somebody politically related, or I'm doing research politically related.
And for the entire two weeks that I'm going to be off, I'm texting my team nonstop with stories for when I get back.
What's wrong?
There's something wrong with me, don't you think?
There's got to be something wrong.
Like Donald Trump.
No, you like Donald Trump.
And hey, I keep up with his phrases too because you worked it hard on that dunk on Tennessee deal.
Well, thank God on that deal.
Boy, that was close.
Man.
Well, you know what?
They did us a favor by telling us it was going to be closer than it ever really was going to be because that gave us an opportunity to expose, you know, this lunatic.
Can you imagine running to Nashville, Tennessee, saying, I hate Nashville and saying, I hate country music, you know, Music City, USA.
I mean, it's insane.
I want to say good morning to the 54% of people that think that, you know, it's okay to, you know, attack the police or, you know, that's a great form of expression, something to the effect that she said.
It was crazy.
It was stupid.
And I can't believe she got 40-some percent of the votes.
And even with that said, I just can't believe it.
I can tell you how that happened.
That was most of her votes were early voting.
Remember, if you were watching that night and paying attention, and I was in D.C. that night, if you were paying close attention, what we saw was the early voting numbers coming in first.
And it seemed a lot closer than I knew it was going to be because I was in touch with Epps and his campaign the entire day.
And I knew that they were hitting their targets in terms of voter turnout where they needed turnout.
So I was not as alarmed as I otherwise would be.
However, you're never going to hear me say on the air that I think, you know, it's going to be a 10-point win like it turned out to be, because I want everyone to rightly understand and believe, because I believe it's true, that they have to believe that and think that their vote is going to be the defining vote in that race.
Nobody will never get it like I got to do in the presidential election.
Remember when I told you it was going to be a landslide?
What'd you take out?
AJ, every single solitary day, I was absorbing early voting numbers every day.
I mean, during that time, I would say for the six months leading up to the 24 election, I probably averaged two, two and a half, maybe three hours sleep a night.
I was up studying those numbers every night.
I knew going into Election Day that Donald Trump was going to be reelected.
However, the one unknown is we still need those day of voters to show up.
And they did.
We met and surpassed all of our early voting goals.
Like in Pennsylvania, for example, Kamala Harris was down 750,000 votes going into Election Day than Joe Biden had been four years earlier.
And so I was pretty confident about Pennsylvania.
Same with Wisconsin.
They were down 45% from where Joe was.
Same with Georgia.
Same with North Carolina.
But with that said, if you don't get the day of voting that you depend on, then, you know, things could go sideways pretty quick.
Exactly.
Like you said, be ready for this midterm that's coming up too.
We got to get that going too.
That's going to be another after the new year.
We got all hands on deck, everybody.
Everybody listen up.
We got to get these Republicans in there.
And Texas did good.
We got them judges, they're doing pretty good.
Trump getting a lot of wins, man.
I love it.
I love it.
And they must.
And your great state of Texas, that was a huge decision by the Supreme Court yesterday.
Yes, it was.
And boy, we get at least five, at least five picks, if nothing else.
I hope.
And just keep our prayers in and just keep on going and doggone it.
And hey, I love that.
Trump did the Christmas tree lighting.
Oh, that was so awesome, man.
That is awesome.
That was great.
Great.
It was great.
Man, I got to see the president this week when I was in D.C. and talked to him about a few things.
Off the record, I won't share what we talked about, but very productive conversation.
Big time.
We love you, man.
I'm going to think about Santa Claus coming back.
Stay tuned, okay?
Love you, man.
Shake and bake it, baby.
Come on.
All right.
Shake and bake.
John is in Atlanta, our old stomping grounds.
What's going on, John?
How are you?
Happy Friday.
Glad you called.
Thank you, and I'm glad you took the call.
I have one question about the CIA translator who shot up D.C. Why does he need a translator here?
Well, because he doesn't speak English.
You know, why do we have in my state of Florida a guy driving an 18-wheeler who didn't speak English, didn't read road signs, killed three people in my state?
We just, and he had a commercial driver's license from Washington state and from California.
Recently, another illegal immigrant had a commercial license and from California, driving and killed two newlyweds in, I think it was Oregon.
And nobody seems to bat an eyelash.
I thought every life in the country mattered.
Apparently not.
They might have, but they could at least drive a truck.
If the translator can't translate English, why did he get here?
Well, obviously, they couldn't drive a truck because people are dead because they can't speak English or read road signs, right?
So that's a problem, at least the case in Florida.
Why?
Because we're letting people into the country.
And this is the biggest problem we have.
Europe has seen this.
You know, Europe is a preview of coming attractions if we don't close down our borders.
The one thing that I see Trump has now moved towards is his national security blueprint is declaring an era of mass immigration, migration being over.
And that is, and I'm not against immigration.
I'm a product of it.
All four of my grandparents came here from Ireland at the turn of the last century.
They came here legally.
They assimilated into the country.
They faced discrimination when they got here.
But they, you know, they worked hard.
They lived lives in poverty, unfortunately for them, as did my parents growing up.
And, you know, but they wanted hope and opportunity and a better way of life for people like me.
I'm, you know, the grandson.
I'm the son.
And they sacrificed in ways I can't even describe to pave the way for me and my children to have a better life than they had.
And I'm so grateful to them.
I wish I appreciated it more when I was growing up, but I didn't.
I was too young and too dumb and too stupid.
But now that I'm older, I understand.
And it was a big sacrifice and risk.
And it took a lot of courage on their end to do it.
I'm not against immigration, but it's got to be legal.
There's got to be extensive vetting, background checks.
You've got to be willing to assimilate.
We've got to have a health check, and you can't be a financial burden on the American people.
One of the reasons California, the sanctuary state that it is under Gavin, is going broke.
Fourth largest economy.
Well, they can't even balance their budget with the highest income taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes in the entire country, in large part because of all the services they provide to illegal immigrants that they protect in that state.
And it's got to stop.
It's bankrupting the country, bankrupting states, it's bankrupting the country.
So I appreciate the call.
Thanks, John.
Atlanta 800-941-Sean Rick, South Carolina.
Next, Sean Hannity Show.
Rick, happy Friday.
Hey, Sean.
I'll be quick.
I was born on a tobacco farm.
We transitioned into soy, corn, some livestock.
But I read an article about the Mamdani types that are, you know, talking about the private-held real estate and different things.
You know, it just aggravated me so much to where I listen to you all the time, but I had to call.
How does it make any sense to where I work since I was five years old hard?
And my dad had a second-grade education, but he taught me work ethics.
He taught me to save my pennies for every bead of sweat.
He told me to save a dollar.
And I did that.
And I was able to accumulate some semblance of independence.
And I read the article saying that we don't deserve to have anything.
If we have a summer home somewhere and we don't live there, but just two, three weeks a year, that that house should be occupied by somebody who has never worked a day in their freaking life and they deserve it.
I have three daughters, 32, 30, and 28.
We still own the farm.
My family does.
I don't work it.
I'm medically disabled now, cancer patient for seven years.
But my daughters and I go down two weeks every summer.
We work the farm.
They work it exactly the way I did when I was a kid.
And I just, it the thought of somebody owes you something.
Everybody has an opportunity.
It is your intestinal fortitude that creates opportunities.
And I just don't understand the thought process of free.
And we believe that somebody is going to be able to do something because they say it's free.
Exactly like I'm running out of time and I'm looking at the clock here.
And let me just say this: you are truly what makes America great.
And what you are describing is the American dream.
What you are describing is what makes America truly great.
It is its people.
It's the farmers.
It's the truckers.
It's the innovators.
It's the people that get up every day, work hard, play by the rules, pay their taxes, take their kids to church.
You know, they're the people that make this country great.
And what I want people to take away from what you're saying is if you dedicate yourself to living a smart life with common sense and working hard, I would argue, and some would take issue with this, that you cannot fail in America.
My entire life has been about work.
And I can't imagine waking up on any given day without having some purpose, whatever it is.
And I enjoyed every job I've ever had, including I had my former boss on when I was 12 and I was a dishwasher.
I took great pride in it.
When I was a painter, I'd finish a room.
I felt I'd take great pride in it.
I'd paint the outside of a house, hang wallpaper, lay tile.
I'd take great pride in it.
Everybody has to make choices in life.
One of the choices I urge everybody in their life to make, put God first in your life and dedicate yourself to hard work and good living, and you can't fail.
God bless you and God bless your family.
Hope you have a great holiday.
Merry Christmas.
You're allowed to say Merry Christmas on this program.
It's not illegal.
It's not a public school.
That's going to wrap things up.
But today, we'll have the latest on the DC pipe bomber who was in court today and the crazy left reaction to this.
Also, Democrats hate Trump so much that they seem to be sympathizing with the narco-terrorists and the rights of narcoterrorists to kill our children.
Unbelievable.
Also, we'll update you about ICE enforcement efforts in Louisiana.
Oh, man, Tom Holman just ripped a heckler today.
We'll show you that.
Mamdani is going to bring back to New York City the homeless encampment, homeless encampments.
Good job.
That's not going to work.
And much, much more.
All coming up, 9 Eastern Sety DVR this Friday night.