America's Moral Duty: Tackling Christian Persecution in Nigeria
In this episode, we delve into the urgent issue of Christian persecution in Nigeria, sparked by a recent statement from Nicki Minaj praising President Trump's renewed focus on the matter. Join us as we discuss alarming statistics of violence against Christians, including the appalling number of fatalities and the destruction of churches. Congressman Riley Moore, leading an investigation into these human rights violations, highlights the importance of U.S. intervention while emphasizing the need for moral clarity in foreign policy. Tune in for a compelling conversation on how America can support vulnerable communities without falling into the trap of endless military involvement. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, now what I love, one thing I love about President Trump is he's taking on the issue of peace around the world.
India, Pakistan, the war with Israel and Iran, 12 days.
And guess what?
He took out their nuclear sites.
Cambodia, Rwanda.
I mean, we can go all across the world.
And the president understands the might of the U.S. economy, uses that as leverage.
If you want access to our economy and you don't want to be tariffed to death, then you better stop persecuting innocent people.
And he's used that leverage quite often.
The president similarly, you know, he does want peace.
Look at all the political energy and time and effort that he's expended on the issue of Putin and Ukraine and Russia and Ukraine and peace in the Middle East.
He's done a lot.
And hopefully we'll get to the end conclusion of both of them eventually.
Anyway, we've had this issue involving what's going on in Nigeria and the persecution of Christians.
Now, the president has tasked Congressman Riley Moore to lead an investigation in the House.
And the following, I want to read something to you are remarks and information from Chris Smith, Republican New Jersey, in the House Foreign Affairs Africa Subcommittee, November 20th hearing entitled President Trump's Redesignation of Nigeria as a Country of Particular Concern, a serious, well-founded wake-up call.
And according to open doors, more Christians are slaughtered in Nigeria than anywhere else in the world.
Over 52,000 Christians in Nigeria have reportedly been targeted and killed by Islamist extremists, while approximately 34,000 moderate Muslims have been murdered by Islamists and attacks since 2009.
More than 7,000 have been murdered this year alone.
Some 19,000 churches have been attacked.
Anyway, so the numbers are real.
It was very interesting to watch Nikki Minaj, and I'm sure she probably, you know, was excoriated on social media and by the left for daring to thank Donald Trump for prioritizing the issue of Christian persecution in Nigeria.
Here's what she said.
I would like to thank President Trump for prioritizing this issue and for his leadership on the global stage.
In Nigeria, Christians are being targeted, driven from their homes and killed.
Churches have been burnt.
Families have been torn apart.
And entire communities live in fear constantly, simply because of how they pray.
And I want to be clear.
Protecting Christians in Nigeria is not about taking sides.
It's about human decency.
Now, I applaud Nikki Minaj.
She knew darn well when she came forward with those statements that she'd probably be criticized, maybe even ostracized.
I'm not that into pop culture the way Linda is, but she knew that that was an act of courage, but she cares about human life more than she does about these idiotic attacks by these keyboard warriors that are anonymous, you know, naked or in their underwear in their parents' basement.
And she was willing to take it on and rightly thank the president for it.
Anyway, Congressman now Riley Moore joins us, who has been tasked by the president to deal with this and investigate this.
Congressman, Nikki Minaj is right.
I give her a lot of credit.
I'm sure she was excoriated for saying that.
But you know what?
Lives are being lost at a very high number.
Yeah, Sean.
And, you know, I don't own any Nikki Minaj records myself.
I really do have to give her credit for elevating this tragic and horrific situation in Nigeria, using her platform and raising it in the American consciousness, because this is something myself, and you mentioned Congressman Chris Smith, we've been talking about for a pretty long time.
And I knew that if we could just get this on the radar of President Trump, which he is incredibly busy saving this country, preventing wars, peace deals, trade deals, tax deals, as soon as he saw it, he would do the right thing, because I know this is in President Trump's heart.
And that's exactly what happened.
I was asking for Nigeria to get redesignated a country of particular concern.
And that's important because it opens up a lot of levers for the administration to use in terms of sanctions, stopping aid, arms sales, train and equip, freezing international financial institutions and flows of dollars into that.
There's a lot of things, 15 different levers in there that can be pulled.
And the president redesignated them.
And I want to highlight that redesignation.
President Trump had designated Nigeria a country of particular concern in his first term.
President Biden took that designation off, citing that these killings have nothing to do with religion whatsoever.
What's happening here is that climate change is the prime driver of the violence because of variable land and disputes between herders and farmers.
Is there any ambiguity that radical Islamists are torturing and killing innocent Christian people because of the issue of religion?
Is that the reason of the conflict or is it climate change?
Because it can't be both.
No, it cannot be both.
It is very clearly these folks are losing their life.
Our brothers and sisters in Christ are losing their life for their faith in our Lord and Savior in Jesus Christ.
Now, the objectives of these terrorist organizations over there, and there's three prime drivers, the Book of Haram, IS West Africa, which is ISIS, and the Sulani militants that are in the middle belt of the country.
That last one, the Fulanis are the ones that are really perpetrating these crimes against Christians.
And of course, look, ultimately, they want the Christians gone.
And so they can take all their land.
And the way they're going to achieve their objectives is wiping Christians out and taking them off of this planet.
So that has been their objective.
And unfortunately, we got a report just today.
Tell me if not religiously driven.
When today we get a report, 52 children were kidnapped from a Catholic school in Nigeria along with their teachers when Islamic militants of the Fulani tribe went in there, burned the school down and kidnapped the kids.
This is exactly what we're talking about.
Well, the president, I do agree with the Trump doctrine.
I do agree with him on no forever wars, but I also understand that that does not mean isolationism.
I think America has got to be a nation with moral clarity.
I think that's why the president took out the ISIS Caliphate, convert or die.
I think that's why he took out Soleimani, Baghdadi, dropped the mother of all bombs on Afghanistan, and why he took out Iran's nuclear sites.
Do you think there is a cause of action for the president to take here if ultimately human lives are going to be lost en masse here?
Yeah.
So what has been happening in the conversations, and we had a high-level delegation from the government of Nigeria in Washington, D.C. this week, met with the administration, met with myself and some other members of Congress as well.
And what we have all been saying to them is there is an opportunity here for Nigeria.
There's an opportunity for you all to work with us, the United States, in coordination and cooperation to stop the killing of Christians and help you all, help empower you to defeat this Islamic terrorist threat that is within your country.
We have a lot of experience, obviously, in this, and we can help them, but it has to be us working together to do this.
I'm not, and I'm with the president on this.
I don't want forever wars.
I don't want a nation-building exercise here.
I don't want regime change.
I don't want any of those things, but I want the murder of Christians to stop.
And I think the Nigerians also want to deal with the Islamic terrorist threat in their country.
So I do think there's an opportunity here for us to work together on this.
Do you think that there are certain leaders, if they are removed, that the problem could likely be resolved and a fear factor would kick in for their underlings?
You know, I think perhaps if certain leaders...
I know you probably don't want to answer that question, but it's a logical question.
Yeah, in terms of the Islamic terrorist organizations, yes, I do think that that could be part of a consideration of how to move forward there.
But it's going to be multifaceted.
They met with Secretary Pete Hegg says, Department of War, they are part of this.
The Department of State is part of this.
I'm leading this congressional investigation as part of the broader task force to tackle this issue here.
But yes, there are some, without getting in a classified space, serious actors that are in Nigeria right now.
All right.
Well, we appreciate what you're doing.
Our prayers are with these innocent people that are being persecuted.
It's sad to believe that in this day and age, this still goes on, but it does.
And I think America, if it can help, not take over, but help, I believe in moral clarity.
Anyway, Congressman, thank you.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Caroline Levitt was really on her game yesterday.
I want to play her sparring with a reporter over Democratic lawmakers on this issue of disobeying orders of the commander-in-chief.
The president and the vice president, for that matter, have accused the other side of encouraging political violence.
Isn't that exactly what the president is doing when he says that members of Congress should be killed?
Why aren't you talking about what these members of Congress are doing to encourage and incite violence?
They are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service members not to defy the chain of command, not to follow lawful orders.
Every single review is an illegal order, which is not a problem.
But they're suggesting, Nancy, that the president has given illegal orders, which he has not.
Every single order that is given to this United States military by this commander-in-chief and through this chain of command, through the Secretary of War, is lawful.
And the courts have proven that.
This administration has an unparalleled record at the Supreme Court because we are following the laws.
We don't defy court orders.
We do things by the books.
And to suggest and encourage that active duty service members defy the chain of command is a very dangerous thing for sitting members of Congress to do.
I mean, the fact that the media is defending this is spectacular to me.
Then she called out media silence over the Democratic lawmakers video.
If this were Republican members of Congress who were encouraging members of the military and members of our United States government to defy orders from the president and from the chain of command, this entire room would be up in arms.
But instead, it is the other way around.
And I think that's quite telling.
And you got, on the other hand, Liberal Joe over at MSDNC New, whatever the hell that means, scolding Lindsey Graham for trashing Democrats on this issue, this disobey illegal orders video, which to me is spectacularly, you know, outrageous.
Listen.
Lindsay knows better.
I mean, that's what's so pathetic about it.
It's sad.
I know Lindsay and I've known Lindsay for a long time.
He's been a friend, but Lindsay knows better.
These Republicans on Capitol Hill know better.
Saying, like getting angry at anybody for telling troops don't commit illegal acts, it's just nonsensical.
You're not that stupid.
Stop blindly going along with this.
Same thing with Republicans.
And come on, Lindsay.
You of all people know that troops cannot commit illegal actions.
And you should be saluting your colleagues for telling them don't commit illegal actions.
Now, poor Liberal Joe, he has a problem.
He has an anger management problem as he drops an F-bomb this morning on MSDNC.
He was going to just flop over.
I tell you, he was so shocked and stunned.
These people are lying through their teeth.
These people are lying through their teeth.
Insane.
It was just half.
It was like a Joe Biden when he said yes.
Yes.
So anyway.
These people are lying through their teeth.
Mike Johnson knows that this is all about what military men and women need to do to uphold their sacred oath.
And that is not commit illegal actions.
You know, the idea that you're going to drop an F-bomb over this, I don't know what happened to Liberal Joe.
I remember Liberal Joe when he was a congressman in Pensacola, very conservative, probably the most conservative district in all of my free state of Florida.
I remember him calling me in 2000, the Democrats are stealing the election in Florida.
He's going off and off and off.
Now he claims that he's a journalist.
No, I think Joe Scarborough wanted to be on TV way too much, and he turned into whatever he needed to turn into so he can get a big fat paycheck.
I'm incapable of doing that.
When all of those text messages of mine were released, we were talking about earlier with Jim Jordan.
The commentary of liberals on MSDNC and fake news, CNN, oh my gosh, it sounds like his monologues.
He really believes this stuff.
Does that infer they do not?
When we come back, we'll check in with Dr. Mark Siegel.
He's got a book out on miracles and medicine.
Next.
All right.
You remember Al Michaels' famous call, 1980, American hockey, Miracle on Ice?
You know, do you believe in miracles?
Well, Dr. Mark Siegel, my friend and colleague over at Fox, has authored a new book, The Miracles Among Us, how God's Grace Plays a Role in Healing.
It just came out this week.
I'll put up a link on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores around the country.
He writes in this, a doctor who believes in miracles is one who doesn't shut the door on the seemingly impossible too soon.
He writes in this book.
Anyway, Dr. Siegel joins us.
I've always believed in miracles my whole life.
As a Christian, it is part of my faith.
As a Christian and a believer in Jesus Christ, I believe that the miracles described in the gospels all took place.
I do believe that such interventions happen to this day that we really don't know or understand nor are we designed to understand.
Tell us what you've discovered.
Completely agree with that.
And I also want to say that I've known you many years and you're a man of great kindness.
People know you for your very powerful views, but you're a person that's accepting of others and that's where miracles start.
You love your brother and that's where miracles start.
And Cardinal Dolan wrote in a prayer section in my book that God looks at us even more closely when we're suffering and we're sick.
And I believe that strongly.
That's been my career.
You talk about 9-11 and I took care of a number of the chaplains after 9-11.
Father Judge was a patient of mine and Father Delendick was a patient of mine and I kept him alive for years.
God kept him alive for years because physicians are the hands of God.
And too many physicians, even if they're religious, and 75% of physicians are religious, even if they're religious, they get into the operating room where they get into the hospital and they think, okay, now I'm putting on my secular clothes.
Not so.
God is in that room.
Pray with your patients.
And I've had many examples of that.
I just re-interviewed majority leader Steve Scalise, and he said the doctors who came to me on that ballfield, emergency responders, were emissaries of God.
Sometimes it's angels that come.
Sometimes it's emergency intervention that comes.
And I talked to the doctors who saved his life in the hospital.
There's no doubt about it.
They were at the top of their game.
And his prayers and his strength that he got from prayers helped him.
And there's a story also in my book called Breakthrough, where John Smith falls through the ice and a voice from the shore, it's a voice from God, tells the responders to go 15 feet to the right, Sean.
They do.
They find him and he doesn't have a pulse for 45 minutes.
Doctors in the hospital said to me, they never heard of that, but the mother said, I'm in touch with God.
Keep him going.
Keep him going till I get there.
She gets there, does a direct prayer from the emergency room, and he comes back.
His pulse comes back, but he doesn't just come back.
He fully recovers.
I interview him.
He's completely intact.
You cannot witness things like this and talk to the people involved without believing deeply in a personal God who intervenes in our health.
I agree with all of that.
Have you ever, in the course of your long and, you know, unbelievable career gotten in a situation where you knew for sure somebody was never going to make it and then miraculously survives?
Yes.
Early in my career, there was a maitre de in a restaurant that went into a coma and everybody said he's not going to make it.
This is one of the things that set my career in motion.
The family every day was at the bedside praying and saying, look, his heart rate's going up.
His heart rate's going up.
All the doctors were ignoring that, the nurses.
Palliative care.
Let's pull the plug.
Let's pull out the respirator.
This is how hospitals talk now.
But the family wouldn't allow them to give up.
He ended up completely waking up, completely coming back to himself a month later, returned to the same restaurant and got his old job back.
I could not witness that without understanding that this whole thrust towards physician-assisted suicide, it's evil, actually, because our role as physicians is to prolong life and to decrease suffering and to go the extra mile to preserve the preciousness of the human soul.
Well, I mean, I think that's the miracle.
Have you also noticed that positive thinking?
Like, I've met people that they get a bad diagnosis, cancer, whatever it happens to be, and they just give up.
I have met those people.
I've tried to, you know, encourage those people.
Then I meet other people and they have the best attitude.
They're facing whatever it is, even against all odds, with incredible mental toughness, strength that I'm not sure I would ever be able to have.
And it seems like that mental toughness plays a part in their healing.
Have you found that to be true?
That's 100% true because it actually decreases your blood pressure, decreases your anxiety level.
Courage overcomes.
If you exercise when you have something like cancer, it's much more likely to go away.
I've witnessed that over and over again.
Dodi Osteen, and I interviewed her whole family down in Joe Osteen's church down in Lakewood.
She had three miraculous recoveries from cancer.
I have a patient named Dick who has overcome four cancers because of a positive attitude.
And I shouldn't say this on your show, Sean, but he still smokes.
I can't get the guy to stop smoking.
He says, look, I smoke, but I beat four cancers with four different treatments.
I overcame heart disease.
I overcame neuromuscular disease.
I said, what are you doing?
What's your secret?
He says, I'm around to take your phone calls, Doc.
So I understand he has a sense of humor too.
You have a physician like that.
I'm always there for you, but you have a physician like that who's a dear, dear friend of yours.
Doctors have to believe in order to be at their most effective, and patients have to believe to overcome.
He never doubts it.
He knows he's going to beat the next cancer, and he does.
Well, it's pretty amazing.
And you chronicle all of this in your book.
Are you doing any book signings?
Because I know people would probably love to go and meet with you.
I know people now can pick up this book.
If you're just joining us, Dr. Mark Siegel with us, author of Miracles Among Us, How God's Grace Plays a Role in Healing.
We have a link up on Hannity.com.
You can get it at Amazon.com and now bookstores around the country.
Are you doing any book signings?
I'm thinking of setting something up down in Florida, but I haven't done it yet.
I'm doing some big book parties coming up.
I'd love to meet with people because you know why?
People have their miracles.
I've been urging people.
You know, when I appear with Ainsley, I've been urging people, send me your miracles.
They're sending me their miracles.
I'd love to meet with them in person because here's another secret of this book.
Everybody has a miracle.
If they think about it, they have a miracle.
My father's 102.
My mother's 100.
They're together because they love each other.
They don't want to leave the other alone.
They've been through obstacle courses of medical problems because doctors believed they could survive and they have.
That has inspired me.
And a lot of people out there have stories like that.
And I want to share them.
Do you agree with Gary Brecker?
He's in the health, wellness, fitness, nutrition space, and he's a good guy.
And I interviewed him on my podcast.
And Gary believes that if we live the next five years with artificial intelligence, that the odds of us living to 100 go up exponentially because of early detection.
I have another friend of mine who's a radiologist, and he's telling me they already use AI and the AI is able to pick up, you know, minor little cancers that there's no way any doctor can ever see with any, you know, MRI or any type of other imaging.
Do you believe that Gary's correct in that statement?
I think he's totally correct, but I don't distinguish between that and the faith part.
So it's science and faith together.
We're the hands of God.
AI are our hands.
Two things you're referring to there.
One is there's a program at a mass general at Harvard, which will detect the lung cancer before it even happens.
And there's something we're doing at NYU called opportunistic scanning, where if you think we're looking at your lungs, we're using AI to also look at your liver, to also look inside your bones.
That's the future.
AI is an incredible advance in terms of tools for healthcare, and it will keep us alive to 100.
Appreciate it.
Dr. Mark Siegel, Fox News.
Don't forget his new book, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores around the country, The Miracles Among Us.
Anyway, doctor, appreciate it.
As always, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Sean is in Colorado.
Sean, how are you?
Glad you called.
I am doing well, and it's a pleasure to speak to you, sir.
My wife and I are longtime listeners.
Well, I appreciate that.
I can't do this show without you.
And so glad you called.
Happy Friday.
And same to you.
And it's like reconnecting with a longtime friend.
So, yeah, I think it's important that these files came out.
I'm glad they finally did.
I am a survivor child trafficking myself, and I do speak publicly, but most people that I encounter that I'm able to help really don't want to get on a public stage and talk about it.
Look, I totally completely understand.
And first of all, let me tell you, let me speak through you and to you.
To any victim, any child, any teenager, any young person abused by an older person, sexually, otherwise, it is the, to me, it's at the one of the most evil things that anybody can ever do.
And first of all, I want you to know something.
I admire the fact that you'll speak out about it.
I don't need the details.
I'm sorry you had to go through that, but I want you to understand very deeply, and I hope you understand it, that you are not the cause of this.
This is evil that was perpetrated upon you.
And whatever damage, psychological trauma that goes along with all of this, you know, people with love and compassion completely understand it.
And, you know, when I hear over a thousand victims and then I hear people release all those videos, I'm like, no, leave those victims alone.
Leave the victims alone.
Now, if they choose to have that release, that would be up to them.
But it should not be the government that releases that garbage and nor should anybody be asking for it.
I don't think people understand the extent of which child sex trafficking has taken place in our country.
We have chronicled it on this program for years.
But I hope you do understand that this was evil perpetrated on you.
Now, you sound like a survivor to me, but I'm sure there are deep scars, rightly so, that remain in you.
Oh, absolutely.
But I run a nonprofit.
We're faith-based.
And I will tell you that I did.
I do believe, like your earlier caller said about your interview about miracles, I am a miracle.
And the fact that I can speak out today and I can stand up and say, you know, I met Jesus on the road.
I'd taken all my life to hide from him.
And he said, yeah, that was never part of my plan for you.
And, you know, it's a great pleasure to be able to speak.
I mean, it's tough and I do get emotional, but on the other hand, every single time I am able to speak, people realize it's happening a lot in the United States.
In fact, it's now been shown that boys may be half the victims in this country.
But I want you to know something that you're doing that you're not even aware that you're doing.
There's somebody right now that has been through what you've been through or worse that is hearing you and they're hearing a survivor and they're hearing, you know, validation that what they experienced was evil.
And I think that you are helping people more than you know.
And I applaud you for your courage because you don't have to call this program and talk about something like this, but you are helping other people doing so.
Thank you.
You know, it's like the Joseph story in the Bible.
God says, I will take what was meant for your harm and turn it to good.
Well, our prayers are with you.
And, you know, maybe, how old are you, Sean, if you don't mind me asking?
Yeah, I'm an older survivor.
I am 65, but like a lot of guys, I didn't start talking about it until I was around 50 and that through the support of a strong Christian wife.
Done a lot of things in my life.
I was a Navy intel guy, and now I'm an ordained pastor in a prison ministry.
And this is not really what I picked for my life, but God had better plans.
Well, you know, I just, I never thought I'd be successful at anything, to be honest with you.
God bless you.
Our prayers are with you and your great work.
You're going to help a lot of people more than you're helping now.
I just, I can feel it in my bones.
Anyway, I appreciate you being with us.
800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
That's going to wrap things up for today.
Tonight on Hannity, Caroline Levitt, Stephen A. Smith.
Oh, Jeffrey Epstein will be on tonight.
Also, Nicole Parker has some amazing videos she got for us.
We'll share that with you from Chicago and more.
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