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Nov. 4, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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BIDEN- So What About the People Around Him? Who's Going to Jail ?
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We are going to take a little walk through what seems to be the true epidemic that happened in the Biden administration.
And it had nothing to do with Joe Biden and his weird touching and smelling and his strange mumbling and jumbling, which we'll also get to.
But it has to do with the people around him, right?
One of the people I despised the most in the Biden White House was Ian Sams.
And Ian Sams gave the most ridiculous testimony during depositions about Joe Biden's cognitive abilities and so on and so forth.
And supposedly he's been in politics.
He's been in, you know, on Capitol Hill and in presidential campaigns and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, fine.
But when he was working in the Biden administration as a former spokesperson for the Biden admin, and he handled a lot of the social media and digital and such, you know, this guy, I mean, he was so pompous.
He was so ridiculous.
He kind of reminded me of like a weird drawing from that book, Diary of a Wimpy Kid.
Like he was that guy.
He was the guy you were like, oh, God, too bad.
And now he's working in the White House.
He's drunk with power.
He thinks he matters.
And then we see this deposition as we were recently getting all this testimony because a chairman of the House Oversight Committee, James Colmer, congressman out of Kentucky, is giving us a bird's eye view into what these depositions entailed and how these former admin officials answer questions, which is so nice to see since they did that to the Trump admin and everybody else.
So long story short, there's this entire ridiculous effort by these admin officials to, you know, lie, cheat, steal, whatever.
And, you know, I should say beg, borrow, steal their way to, you know, some sort of immunity because now people are saying, okay, so we have all of these pardons and all these people granted immunity.
And we're taking a close look at the signatures.
And lo and behold, they all match.
So people are like, huh, it's kind of weird that they match.
You know, like, why would they match perfectly?
Like, that doesn't make sense.
And it's not like they're a little bit off or there's, you know, one or two things that said, no, they are a perfect match.
And so you layer all of these signatures on top of each other and they are identical.
And I have to be honest, you know, most of these types of investigations, I really don't care too much about because nobody ever goes to jail.
Nobody ever pays the final price.
Nobody ever gets in trouble.
So I'm like, who gives a shit, right?
But in this case, we might actually see reversals in those things that were given approval and the final sign off to move forward.
And we might see reversals.
So if that happens, I'm very interested.
And suddenly this becomes a very real thing.
So I want you to first hear Ian Sams.
Now, this is a guy who did endless TV hits.
Okay.
Keep that in the back of your mind.
This guy was on TV all the time, like him and Joe Biden were getting ice cream together.
All right.
So just keep that in the back of your mind.
Take a listen.
How often would you say that you interacted with the president in person?
I interacted with him pretty infrequently.
So weekly, monthly, what are we talking about?
Very infrequent.
I think I met with the president a handful of times during my tenure in the White House.
And let's just make a special note.
During this deposition, he's not just listed as a spokesperson.
He is former special assistant to the president.
So former special assistant to the president, and he's seen him maybe, interacted with him, maybe, a handful of times.
I'll continue.
I want to introduce exhibit two as it's being passed around.
It's a tweet from Alex Thompson at Axio summarizing, we pulled a couple quotes of interview you did on MSNBC.
And one of the quotes says, when I deal with him, he is sharp in being President Biden.
And he is asking tough questions.
Do you recall this?
I got to say, that doesn't look anything like the president that I know.
When I deal with him, he's sharp.
He's asking tough questions.
That's the President Biden that so many of us experience every single day.
So just to be clear, the lawyer that's doing the deposition stops.
And then in GOP oversight, when they put the video together, they interlay this interview that he did with MSNBC so that you can clearly see that he's a two-faced liar.
So this statement, the basis for this statement was your interactions somewhere between one and five times.
Yes.
Okay.
Do you think that's a bit misleading?
I think it was pretty direct and honest and said that when I do deal with him, he's sharp and he was asking incisive questions during my meetings with him.
But you dealt with him five times in 24 months.
That's not exactly a large scope of knowledge on how he interacts with staff.
You know, I think it's missing some context.
I don't.
Do you think that statement suggests that you deal with him more than you did?
I don't think so.
I mean, I spoke about my own interactions with him.
That's the President Biden that we experience every day.
But to the best of your recollection, four meetings, two were in person.
Two that were, the two that I described to you that I, at the very onset in the Oval, one was a Zoom where he was at Camp David and I was a participant in the meeting.
The phone call, I think there was another meeting, but I, or another engagement, but I can't remember off the top of my head what it was.
I'm sorry.
No, it's okay.
I'm just trying to get an understanding of, so the immunity decision was virtual with him at Camp David.
There was a phone call regarding Hunter Biden's testimony.
Yes.
An in-person meeting regarding Hunter Biden's testimony.
And one other in-person meeting?
About special counsel Hearst as about special counsel.
So two in-person meetings.
Sure.
At least that, yes.
So he's on MSNBC saying that Biden is a thriving and insightful, engaged individual that he deals with every day at the White House.
Then when he's called on the carpet under oath, right, where he could be found guilty of lying under oath, aka perjury, and potentially sent to prison, which with any luck, he will be sent to prison because I have no doubt that he's got hands-on in this Auto Penn scandal.
But he's lied to the American people, right?
He goes on to the mecca of liberal television on MSNBC and he tells the viewers, oh yes, I see him every day.
My God, is he on point?
And then he has the audacity in Depot to say, yeah, I had about a handful of meetings with him, two of which were not even in person.
One was virtual.
One was a phone call.
He's got one other one he can't remember.
And then two in-person meetings.
One of those in-person meetings, if you listen to the way that he describes the meeting, he says, yes, I was a member of that meeting.
It wasn't even a one-on-one.
It's not even like he was like one of two or three people.
He was in some big room, probably, or if he was in the oval, he was in there with a bunch of other people.
It's just a lie.
This is the stuff, right?
So Ian Sam's disgusting liar, just ridiculous.
And then we take this ad that the GOP Oversight Committee put together, and it has many members of the Biden White House administration.
And these guys are sitting there in deposition and they are lying.
And the problem is there are moments where they have to tell the truth, right?
So it's very tricky.
And then GOP, very cleverly, whoever did this video, kudos to you, they overlaid their answers.
And it is just as seamless as the auto pen signatures.
It's ridiculous.
So I'm going to play this cut for you.
It's about two minutes, but it's worth it.
And I've been sharing this with everybody I know.
And I'm going to tell you who each person is that's speaking so you can understand the gravity of what we're dealing with.
These are not people that came in every once in a while.
These were people that were with the president every single day.
And the frightening part is they probably had their hands on decisions that were affecting you and me and our families and our kids and their kids and their families and our friends.
Just a hot mess.
And they don't care.
All they care about now is getting out alive.
They don't want to get in trouble.
So we'll play a little bit of this.
I'll pause it and tell you who's talking as we go.
His rhetorical skills were not as strong as they had been and his speeches were less effective, I thought.
So that was Ron Clain, former White House chief of staff.
Okay.
So think about that.
Ron Clain, former White House chief of staff.
This guy has been around the block.
This is a Clinton guy.
He worked with Obama.
He has been in the White House for a very long time.
I have no doubt he knows where all the bodies are buried.
But so this is who we're talking about.
We talked about age.
We knew it was an issue and we tried to design a strategy.
So that was Stephen Ricchetti, who's former counselor to the president.
He says, yes, we're talking about age.
We knew it was a problem.
So, you know, we're just strategizing.
Okay, that's helpful.
This next person you're going to hear is Anita Dunn.
Anita Dunn is a super deep state, hard, hard left liberal.
And she's the former senior advisor to the communications for communications to the president.
But this is another Clinton night, another Obama night.
We had a discussion at the senior advisor level about whether the president should have a cognitive exam.
Flashback now to the legacy media's complete denial of the president's cognitive decline.
Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth.
And F you, if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden is the best Biden ever.
Okay, can we just address that hack?
That's Joe Scarborough.
This guy is so absurd.
It's actually, it's painful.
He does a morning show with his wife, Mika Brzezinski, also a hack, also very painful.
They just lie.
I would love so much to just listen to a show, i.e.
the rogue recap.
But all kidding aside, just somebody who's just talking about what it is.
You are lying.
Stop.
It's so frustrating to work in politics, to work in White House administration coverage, to talk about these various leaders and representatives who have roles in the upper echelons of our governing bodies.
They don't give a shit about people.
They just care about themselves.
It's a real problem.
His mental acuity is great.
Chuck Schumer.
Yeah.
Chuck, don't give a hmm about anybody.
So we'll leave that there.
It's fine.
It's as good as it's been over the years.
He is sharp.
He is on top.
Ah, KJP.
So KJP is definitely the frontrunner for maybe one of the dumbest people to ever set forth in the White House.
KJP literally read what was on the paper.
She has no knowledge.
She has absolutely no wherewithal of what they were feeding her.
She's just like, yep.
I'm here.
I'm going to read what's on this paper and we're going to keep it moving.
And don't ask me questions.
The things that she would say was, it was, it was, it was embarrassing.
Like when she talked about Nord Stream 2 and she was like, Nordstrom.
I'm like, that is a store in a mall.
Yeah.
I mean, it's frightening, right?
Just frightening stuff.
He is on top of things.
Do you regret saying that President Biden had a mental acuity?
This is Elizabeth Warren coming up next or a, you know, aka Pocahontas.
A mental acuity.
He had a sharpness to him.
I said what I believe to be true.
And you think he was as sharp as you?
I said I had not seen decline.
So think about this.
Think about the semantics of what she's saying.
I said what I believed to be true, not what is true.
Not, yeah, I said that, but looking back on that, that was utter nonsense.
It's the same thing as when KJP would say things like, you know, sometimes I just can't keep up with Biden.
I'm like, please stop.
You're in your 30s.
He's in his 80s.
He already walks with a shuffle and a limp.
Like that's the, that's stupid.
Don't say that.
Don't say things that are so obviously bogus that everything else you say is now tainted by that version of what you consider to be the truth.
Because your version of truth, aka, is not truth.
So stop.
And I hadn't.
He is just fine.
How people interpret that is up to them.
Oh, yeah.
There's General Miller.
We're watching the testimony of this woman here, Annie Thomas Sr.
She's the former senior advisor to President Joe Biden.
She was the third person set to appear before James Congress Committee.
She has now taken the fit.
There is now a pattern of key Biden confidants seeking to shield themselves from criminal liability for this potential conspiracy.
Were you ever told to lie about the president's health?
The advice of counsel, I must respectfully decline to answer based upon physician patient privilege and in reliance on my right under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
So this is Dr. Kevin O'Connor.
This guy is the former doctor to the president.
Clearly knows that he was sold a bag of tricks on the fact that he wouldn't be held culpable.
And now he's selling us a bag of trips on the fact that we all know that Biden was falling down, falling over, wearing a diaper, had no idea who he was or where he was most of the time.
And instead of being honest and being like, listen, so-and-so threatened me.
So-and-so paid me off.
So-and-so did, you know, whatever.
They just can't be honest.
Let the record reflect that Dr. O'Connor has invoked the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
Dr. O'Connor, did you ever believe the president was unfit to execute his duties as president?
And we can tell you that he will have the same answer with respect to any questions that are asked.
Did any unelected official or family member of President Joe Biden execute the duties of the presidency?
Did Joe Biden, a member of his family, or anyone at the White House ever instruct you to lie regarding his health?
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuing my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.
And if that wasn't.
So you just heard three different members.
One was Tomasini, one was Kevin O'Connor, you know, but they all just kept invoking the Fifth Amendment to avoid self-incrimination.
You know, if you don't lie, if you don't lie to yourself, if you don't lie to your family, if you don't lie to the American people, you don't have to plead the fifth.
You don't.
There are moments when pleading the fifth makes sense.
But the issue is that these Biden people have been lying for so long, that is all they know.
It's all they know.
And I'll tell you what, guys, let's take a listen to Biden.
And you tell me how hard it is, the average bear, to discern if this guy has all of his mental faculties about him.
Okay?
We're just going to listen to a couple of clips.
You know, it represented the moment we walked away from how this country was built when we got into the trickle-bound series.
What?
That's not even the worst of them.
We've all heard far worse.
He's saying words.
They're not in any particular order.
They're not there to make sense.
They barely make sense to him.
He looks confused.
I mean, it's really elder abuse.
You know, you see President Trump right now.
I have friends that work in the White House and they're with him on this Asia diplomacy tour.
They can't keep up.
They actually can't keep up.
The man sleeps like four hours, maybe a night.
You know, he doesn't drink.
He doesn't take drugs.
He doesn't do anything like that.
He is just built for speed and work.
And let me tell you something, he does it.
And he'll be damned if he's going to wait for you.
If you can't keep up, get out.
Be on your way.
Because this is the speed of the White House.
This is the speed of progress.
This is the speed of getting things done, making negotiations and saving nations all over the world that can then lend their hands to benefit the United States of America.
But see, this is what you get from a businessman, which, you know, we haven't had in the White House in quite a while.
We had the community organizer.
We had the senior citizen.
Before that, we had Hillary Clinton, who is just bitter and angry and old.
And then, you know, before that was George Bush, who I also wasn't a fan of.
You know, it's just, we've had such a legacy of career politicians who just wanted to put their name on the wall and could have given a shit less about helping the American people.
Now we have somebody who he, you know, one thing that never gets any credit, he donates his presidential salary.
He doesn't take one.
All the work he's doing on the White House, pay him for it out of pocket.
Private donations and his own funding.
All the other work ever done, all taken off the backs of the taxpayers.
I mean, these are the things.
They get no coverage.
So you got all these liberals walking around pissed off.
What are they pissed off about?
They don't even know because they're being lied to.
I'll close tonight with this one ad.
This to me was quintessential Biden.
It's from the RNC.
They made it in, I think, 2022.
And it really just encapsulates the entire term of Joe Biden.
The political coverage.
Look, some of the political players and some of the.
Let me ask a rhetorical question.
No, I'm anyways.
And you know what's sad about that?
At least with him, I can say, oh, he's having strokes or TIAs or dementia or Wolzheimers, whatever it is.
What was Kamala Harris's excuse?
She's just stupid.
I mean, actually stupid.
That's what's frightening.
These people were in charge of the nuclear codes.
I'm like, dear Lord, have mercy.
Absolutely ridiculous.
And then we have, you know, Trump now back in office.
Thank God.
And he's just like, yeah, we're just going to get shit done.
If you're not here for that, you could see yourself out.
Thanks.
Thanks for playing.
God bless him.
I don't know how he does what he does, but I think with regard to this, this has been really great work by the House Oversight Committee and Mike Howell's group, which is the oversight project.
Just praying for these guys that they're able to do what they can do and that Pam Bondi and Harmeet Dylan and Leo Terrell can make things happen over the Department of Justice and get shit turned around.
Because I would love to see all of these people with fake pardons, fake immunity, and all these autopen, you know, gratis, you know, handouts from an administration who just didn't care.
It would be so great to see those reversals.
I'll keep you up.
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