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Oct. 2, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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O'Reilly on Shutdown Antics - October 1st, Hour 2
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All right, Leonard Skinner, Simple Man, that can only mean one thing on this radio program.
That's all things self-proclaimed, Simple Man.
That means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things Bill O'Reilly of Bill O'Reilly.com.
Uh Mr. O'Reilly, number one New York Times bestseller of the new book confronting evil, and there is evil in the world.
Mr. O'Reilly, sir, how are you?
You uh you're thrilled to know me, right?
In some ways, yeah.
I mean 20 minutes whenever we go to breakfast or lunch, and I pay for it every single time, but whatever.
I mean, I don't mind.
You got more money then, but I do want to say this uh sincerely.
Um you read a book of mine, or I probably anybody else's, and you tell your audience you like it, that's huge for the author.
That's big.
Because you got what 4,000 radio stations here or something?
Pretty close.
We're uh we're up there.
You know, it's amazing.
Before we get into the topic that I want to discuss with with you, which is the government shutdown.
You know, there is a phenomenon back in the day when I started my talk radio career, believe it or not, 1987, Mr. O'Reilly, and I would I would listen to other hosts, and I would hear them, you know.
Oh, let me give you the toll for your telephone number.
It's 800 uh 941 uh WWW, right?
And they'd give out the phone number, and they wouldn't get any calls.
And we have one open line at 800-941 WWW.
Still have one open line, 800-941, and they get more incendiary and more incendiary and more incendiary until finally they piss somebody off, one of the few listeners enough that somebody would call the show.
Right?
Right.
Right.
Okay.
So now we got everybody and their mother.
And I said this years ago, by the by the end of my career one day, and I hope it's not anytime soon, I hope, that everybody's gonna have their own talk show.
Right.
And and I watch these people that have their podcasts, they're quote, their media networks, they're this, they're that.
And it's like they all crave and need a click.
They need attention.
So they get more incendiary, not for the purpose of of uh of espousing something they're passionate about or believe, but because they want to get noticed.
Now, you and I can make a headline in five seconds right now if we wanted to.
But we don't do that.
And I'm watching this game go on, and I'm like, I'm laughing at it.
I think it's funny.
Um, because I don't think it's I don't think it is something that works in the long term.
Uh one thing both of us have in common is longevity in this business, and I don't think that gives you longevity.
It also uh cheapens you, you know, and I made a few mistakes early in my career by uh, you know, going after George Clooney maybe too hard or somebody like that that really didn't matter very much.
Um but when you make it all personal.
Well, well, can we stop here?
You cannot go after that jackass George Clooney hard enough.
Right.
And him and his wife, their comments about Bibi Netanyahu were so over the top.
Well, I you can go after them, but you have to go after them on policy and on on statements, not on personal.
And these people who do this on the podcast front going after people personally, they're diminishing themselves, and they will not be successful.
Now I'm gonna make a stunning transition into the story of the day.
What you just described as far as podcasts and clicks and people trying to get attention on the internet is exactly what the Senate minority leader, Charles Schumer, is doing.
Exactly the same thing.
Schumer knows that there's no way on earth that President Trump and the Republican Party are going to acquiesce to pay for the health care of illegal immigrants.
He knows that.
Every Democrat knows That any more than IQ over 50 knows that.
Yet he walks into the White House.
By the way, Bill, do you think I have an IQ of over 50?
I've never had it tested.
You got 4,000 uh radio stations.
You don't need an IQ.
I'm kidding.
Keep going.
All right.
So Schumer knows he walks in, and he knows that this is never going to happen.
Yet he does it anyway.
So what does that tell you?
It tells you you didn't want a deal.
You wanted to shut the government down.
It's exactly what happened.
Now you then advance the story.
Why?
Why would the Democratic Party want to shut down?
There's a number of articles about one in the Washington Post today saying, oh, this is gonna hurt the Democratic Party.
This is gonna do this, this is gonna do that.
That's not true.
The Democratic Party is at a it's low ebb, it has nothing.
It's losing on every single front except for the radical left urban centers.
All right.
And so Schumer is trying to get negative attention by the government shutdown by saying, no, no, no, no.
It's all Trump's fault because he knows that people don't pay attention.
They don't really know what the big issue is here.
All they know is that uh the services are being shut down.
Some people are panicking.
Oh, I won't get this or I won't get that.
And and that's what the Democrats want.
Now you and I have been around long enough to know that this shutdown is gonna get solved.
All right, it always does, and they'll come to some kind of compromise, which will not include health care payments for illegal migrants.
It will not.
But this was by design.
Uh the leadership of the Democratic Party wanted to go in, wanted to shut it down, and are hoping that this will reignite some kind of support for the party.
So that is a simple man's analysis.
It's even deeper.
I mean, I I play this montage, and I'm gonna play it for you.
Um I don't know if you've heard it.
Interestingly, the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, put it on a loop on a TV outside of his office in the halls of Congress, which I find hilarious, and this is the Democrats in past years talking about how horrible government shutdowns are, and this is the Schumer shutdown.
Listen.
It is not normal to shut down the government when we don't get what we want.
If the government shuts down, it will be average Americans who suffer most.
A government shutdown means seniors who rely on social security could be thrown into chaos.
Families will be hurt, farmers will be hurt.
It's the service members who will work without a paycheck.
It's the firefighters who will defer.
This shutdown, you know who's gonna feel the pain?
You know who it hurts?
You.
Everyday people and the most vulnerable, seniors, veterans, working families, how do we kids know.
Democrats are signaling they're ready for it.
This time Schumer tells the Associated Press, quote, things have changed.
It is not normal to shut down the government when we don't get what we want.
Now, you gotta admit that's damn good and amusing as hell.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, I'm I'm not sure it it furthers the debate because the Democrats doesn't further the debate, it shows what what raging hypocrites they are.
Well right, but you can make a case that almost every politician has ever lived is a hypocrite.
But what this reflects is desperation.
And and Schumer's got a personal agenda here, too.
He's at the end of the line, Schumer, and he's he's absolutely desperate not to get primaried by uh Cortez.
All right, because she could beat him in New York.
See them, she will kill him.
She will destroy him, and he will get wiped out and embarrassed.
Okay.
Uh your state of New York, by the way, is going you you're not doing a good job, by the way.
I'm blaming you for the decline of New York.
You're Bill O'Reilly.
You live in New York.
You should be doing a better job of managing your state.
My free state of Florida is doing much, much better, by the way.
Let me reply to that.
My home field, Nassau and Suffolk County, has followed my lead.
No, you can't bifurcate out the state and say, well, what I live in particular is fine, but the rest of New York sucks and and take no responsibility on your shoulders.
I'm not letting you off the hook.
All right.
I'm telling you that now we're trending blue, and now there's Bruce Blakeman is great.
I love Bruce Blakeman.
Yeah.
I mean, I can't do anything about New York City because I don't live in New York City.
Um I'm just You're copping out your entire state is a woke, you know, it's in a woke state of insanity and madness, and you haven't fixed it, Bill.
That's your home turf.
Uh Stefanik is gonna beat Hochel next year, so you're gonna eat your words.
Listen, nobody would be happier if uh if in fact Stefana could win that race.
I'd be very happy.
He's gonna win.
The problem is too many, too many smart people like me have said goodbye.
Well, yeah, I mean, look at California, my God, that's worse than New York.
A million and a half are gone.
Um, but anyway, I'm doing the best I can do here, and I'm making progress on my home field.
Um, and I'm not taking credit for it.
Of course, we have very fine people here, but New York City dominates the state and and that is got to blow up, and it will, if Mandani is elected, it will absolutely blow up, and then you'll see the fire storm, and that's really the only way that the state is ever gonna change.
And the body count is gonna be horrific.
Quick break right back more with all things simple man Bill O'Reilly, all things O'Reilly of Bill O'Reilly.com, and later Senator Haggerty of uh Tennessee will join us as well.
We'll get the latest in Washington and much more as our coverage continues.
Thank you.
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All right, we continue now with all things self-proclaimed simple man.
That means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things O'Reilly or Bill O'Reilly.com.
Did you see what he said in the press conference yesterday?
Man Donnie.
Watch him every day.
I mean, he's great material.
But this is the worst.
He wants to take the authority away from the New York City police commissioner to discipline officers and give it to civilians.
That means that there isn't gonna be any police.
They're all gone.
You can't work under a system like that, which is what he wants.
He hates the police.
Calls them racists, he's gonna cut a billion from the still.
He wants to open up the prisons and let all the convicts out.
Yeah.
He he wants to take felonies and turn them into, you know, uh misdemeanors, which guarantees that these, you know, career criminals will be on the street.
The buttons it's a disaster in the making.
I mean, you can see uh, you know, uh the two trains headed towards each other on the track, and it's gonna go off they're gonna crash.
Your state is gonna crash, and you're gonna call me and you're gonna say, Hannity, your buddy O'Reilly, I need I need a place to stay.
Can you take me in?
And and and I'm I'm going to say yes.
I will tell you ahead of time.
I will accept you.
The important thing for your listeners to to understand is that all of this uh government shut down, hate Trump, all of this stuff.
Lawsuits, lawsuits, lawsuits, it's all out of desperation.
Because the progressive left is losing badly, and they know it.
So it's like uh, you know, the Hail Mary Pass or whatever cliche you want to use, they are going to do irrational things to try to write the shit, but it's not going to work.
Because probably Bill, the the the one thing they're not even considering is a reexamination, introspection, Self-reflection.
A course correction in terms of their policies that are out of sync with the American people.
That would be the answer for them.
And they just that that's not even part of the process of the mindset of the progressives is that we are noble.
We are the good people.
And the MAGA Trump are the evil people.
And we're not gonna we're not gonna walk away from our nobility.
These are fanatics.
These are people who are, you know, you point out the fact after fact.
Pritzker is the best example.
And this is the most vivid example I could ever give any American.
Here's a man who's been in office almost eight years, I think.
And the there have been literally thousands of poor African Americans killed in Chicago, murdered by drug gangs.
He has done nothing to mitigate that.
Not one thing.
Yet offered a blanket of protection by the federal government to bring this murder rate down so that poor African Americans are not shot dead.
He not only says, no, I don't want the extra protection, but the people that are offering it, including the president, are racists.
I mean, how irrational and hateful and destructive is that point of view.
That's the best example I can give anybody.
Uh Mr. O'Reilly, we appreciate your time, sir.
Thanks very much, Sean.
I really uh appreciate you reading the book.
It means a lot.
By the way, you you do need a simply save home security system, you especially.
I do.
You know that.
All right, let's go to uh Chucky Schumer.
This is the Schumer Shutdown, and uh it's getting interesting.
And this is Schumer attacking the New York Times.
This was maybe the funniest moment I've ever seen on the Senate floor in my lifetime.
Now I know the leader is going to show a poll that says that that Democrats will be blamed for the shutdown.
There are many more polls that show Republicans are blamed.
The question in that poll is biased.
Biased in the New York Times, but it's biased.
If you turn the that's true.
I don't always believe the New York Times.
You can be sure of that.
Even you know, all good humors rooted in the truth.
I mean, for Schumer to claim that the New York Times is biased against Democrats is uh is beyond laughable.
But he tried to make that case.
Now, let's take a trip down memory lane and let's play Chucky Schumer uh against government shutdowns over the years.
It's sort of like this.
Uh someone goes into your house, takes your wife and children hostage, and then says, Let's negotiate over the price of your house.
You know, we could do the same thing on immigration.
We could we believe strongly in immigration reform.
We could say we're shutting down the government, we're not gonna raise the debt ceiling until you pass immigration reform.
It would be governmental chaos.
What if I persuaded my caucus to say I'm gonna shut the government down?
I am going to not pay our bills unless I get my way.
It's a politics of idiocy of confrontation, of paralysis.
We're now only a week away from a government shutdown, which to remind my colleagues could cost our economy thousands of jobs and billions of dollars as it did in 2013.
I think a government shutdown is something we desperately want to avoid, all of us.
Um I don't know if they can pass the three-week bill.
We would much prefer they do a full funding bill, but we're not gonna shut the government down.
Uh Senator McConnell wanted me to negotiate the wall with President Trump.
I said to him two things.
First, it's not a negotiation, no wall.
And second, I said only you can persuade him that he shouldn't uh do the wall because it'll cause a government shutdown.
The White House has done nothing, but so chaos and confusion, division and disarray, and it may just lead to a government shutdown that no one wants, that all of us here have been striving to avoid.
And we do not want to let a Trump temper tantrum govern our policies or cause the shutdown Of a government, which everyone on both sides of the aisles knows is the wrong idea.
Speaker McCarthy needs to stop letting the MAGA radicals drive his decisions and do the obvious and sensible thing.
Follow the Senate's lead and pass a bipartisan CR to prevent this reckless shutdown.
CR means continue the government spending.
A shutdown, the alternative is cut off the government spending.
And here's what we would what would happen if we cut off government spending.
It would be devastation like we have never seen.
Worse than we're seeing now.
Much.
And now we find ourselves in the midst of the Schumer shutdown.
Now, what changed?
The only thing that has changed and changed dramatically is the radicalization of the Democratic Party.
Chuck Schumer, like Hakeem Jeffries, is leader in name only.
He's not a leader.
He doesn't have control of his caucus.
And he is scared to death of the radicals that dominate his party, and that they are insisting that the government shut down.
So everything he's ever stood for, every position he's ever taken as it relates to government shutdowns, uh, is now turned upside down on its head, and it just reeks of nothing but Schumer hypocrisy, uh, because he's gotta give in to the radicals in his party, and he's gotta do what they tell him to do.
Otherwise he's so desperate, he so wants to cling to his his personal blind uh political ambition that will transcend any desire to simply do what he believes is right.
And that's the difference.
That's what has changed.
Now, our friend uh Senator Hagerty, who we like a lot on this program, put out an ex post and said Republicans are committed to keeping the government open with a clean CR short-term funding bill.
Radical left Democrats in an attempt to get a ridiculous Democrats now are asking for one point five trillion dollars for a seven-week continuing resolution.
One point five trillion and a wish list of liberal priorities, and they've now shut down the government.
That's why it's the Schumer shutdown.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, I don't care how long it goes on.
I feel sorry for the people that won't get their paychecks, that probably won't happen until mid-October.
I would expect this is going to extend out, probably until then.
That's my best guess.
And I think Democrats are just, you know, they they've now they've now cornered themselves, and getting out of this hole they've dug is going to be nearly impossible.
Uh, and this may go on for a while.
But if they think they're getting one point five trillion dollars for the insane policies that they're demanding out of Donald Trump, they don't know Donald Trump, nor do they know the Republican caucus right now.
It's not gonna happen.
Anyway, Senator Bill Haggerty of Tennessee joins us.
Sir, how are you?
Welcome back, glad to have you.
Um Ray Sean, it's good to be back with you as well.
Uh, an interesting time indeed.
You did a wonderful job.
That collage of Chuck Schumer statements was just fascinating.
And to hear him play play victim uh to the New York Times bias, that was just uh too rich to that that that was maybe one of the best moments I've ever seen on the on the Senate floor.
I was on the floor when it happened, and we all just cracked up uh to hear him say that.
But it it gets back to what's the point.
He, by the way, when even when he started laughing, because he knows it's complete BS.
It's so true.
He was laughing as well.
You're exactly right.
All right, let's talk about how we got here, what they're demanding, and why it's not gonna happen and how this gets resolved eventually.
You you know, I think you hit the nail on the head.
Uh their party has changed dramatically.
I would just add one more thing to it.
The party certainly is being run by the radicals and the radical left and the Democrat side.
But the the electoral dynamics in New York State have also changed.
And if you look at the polling, um, you've got a situation where Chuck Schumer would be defeated today by AOC, where we're a primary election to be held.
Um, what Chuck Schumer is trying to do, and I think this is this is this is at the root of the hypocrisy, if he views this as a test of his political manhood, and if he doesn't step up, uh he allows, if he doesn't shut the government down, I should say, then he's going to allow AOC and the radical left to claim that uh you know he's taken a knee to Trump.
He's bowing to Trump.
He's caving to Trump.
That's the argument that he's trying to avoid, and he's painted himself into a corner in the process.
So they found themselves in an impossible situation.
Um this is certainly not helping anybody.
You heard him go through all the reasons not to shut the government down.
Yet here we are, because this is political theater, just so Chuck Schumer again can demonstrate his political manhood to the far, far left of his party.
Well, I I I don't really see how they get out of this, except that at some point they're gonna have to capitulate.
Um the reason I think it goes on through mid mid-October, correct me if I'm wrong, is that the payments to the military of other government employees, uh that will that money those monies will go out uh forthwith, and then the next the first payment that they miss will be in mid-October.
Is that about the right timing?
I think that's uh that that's certainly what what I would put an outer boundary on this, Sean.
I think that's that's exactly the right way to think about it.
But there's going to be more intermediate pain.
I I think the issue here is that um Chuck Schumer is also precipitating the acceleration of a much needed reduction in force of the federal government.
President Trump has been limited by lawsuits and by HR rules.
Those limitations go away in the shutdown.
President Trump has much more power to uh terminate programs, the taxpayers should be funding to eliminate jobs that shouldn't be paid for.
And that precipitation uh is the result of Chuck Schumer's move last night to shut the government down.
Russ voters and instructed the departments and agencies to go ahead and have their list ready and to start pulling the trigger.
So I think what you're gonna start seeing is programs terminated, uh positions terminated that aren't relevant anymore.
And that's going to have the effect of dramatically accelerating the the reduction in size of government that President Trump ran on.
So President Trump wins either way.
He's a brilliant negotiator.
This is where we are, uh, and Chuck Schumer loses either way.
Uh what you're saying is is that the what this now opens the door in many ways to Doge 2.0 and provides the president with an opportunity to eliminate uh unnecessary bureau bureaucracy in Washington.
Bingo.
You you nailed it.
That's that's exactly what's going to happen as well.
And it's Chuck Schumer holds himself out as the defender of the bureaucracy, but he's the one that actually uh you know unleashed the knife.
Well, I mean, that's not necessarily the worst thing in the world.
Um, do you do you have a timetable on this?
I mean, you're in the the cloak room, you're talking to Democratic senators.
What are they saying to you?
Well, I I think there's a lot of frustration on the Democrat side.
Uh that they see Chuck doing this.
Uh I think they realize that it's suicidal.
But it has a lot more to do, I think, with New York State politics, with his concerns about AOC potentially primary.
I mean, as I said earlier, uh, were that race to happen today, AOC would beat him.
That's where the radical left has moved, uh the that whole party.
And as you said, that Democrat Party has changed.
This is a reflection of that.
But trying to hold the nation costage the way Chuck Schumer is doing this right now is not going to work.
The r ridiculous request, a million a trillion trillion and a half dollars, keep the government open for seven weeks while we go through the appropriations process.
It's absolutely insane.
So this sort of blackmail will not work.
Uh it's a dead end for Schumer.
And uh we'll see how long he lasts.
All right, Senator Bill Hagerty of Tennessee.
We appreciate your time, sir.
As always, thank you for being with us.
Thank you, Sean.
Always great to be with you.
Thanks.
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