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Cultural Divide - September 22nd, Hour 2
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You know, uh I I'll I'll quote golfer Phil Mickelshood, who was condemning Congresswoman Omar for her despicable comments that she made.
You know, Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein and his monster, you know, shot him through the neck.
And uh, you know, he's represent uh uh reprehensible, hateful man.
And then I can go to AOC and Jasmine Crockett.
I went through all of it in the last hour.
Um, and then goes on MSDNC, you know, and uh uh how are you uh how are you holding up Congresswoman Omar?
Uh but then you listen to film Mickelson, and he was absolutely right in saying that you know this is like you get the best out of humanity and the worst out of humanity at the same time.
Uh we've seen this movie unfortunately before.
I just wanted to get your thoughts.
On the other hand, you got Erica Kirk, you know, saying our savior said, forgive them, father, for they know what not know not what they do.
I forgive him, I forgive him because it was what Christ did and what Charlie would do.
Uh compare that for me.
First of all, we are in the early stages of a cultural civil war, which is very real.
And I think that that's hard for people to grasp, but the people on the other side are totally sincere.
We may think that they're crazy.
We may think that they make no sense, but inside their worldview, uh they're faced with annihilation because the American people and President Trump have come together to fundamentally go back to classic American values and classic American rules.
I mean, things as simple as not allowing boys and girls bathrooms, which, you know, 1960 would have been obvious, but for a brief period, particularly under Obama and Biden, it suddenly became something where the state was going to impose on us a radically different set of values.
Uh something as simple as basic patriotism.
Uh you think that America matters.
Uh, does English matter as a language?
Uh, should we have a border that works?
On all of these things, the gap between the big government socialist left with its weird values and the rest of the country is enormous.
And based on our America's New Majority Pro Project polling, um, we guess that somewhere between 15 and 20% of the American people uh side with the big government socialists and their weird values, and the rest of the country clearly opposes them.
And so what you're going to see is more and more I think fervor and fanaticism as they literally see all the things that they want to have happen disappear as the American people sort of return to a core belief in the Constitution,
in the work ethic, in the right to rise based on meritocracy, and a whole range of things, all of which are direct threats to the people on the left who are uh speaking in such harsh language.
Let me just lay out some of it for you and juxtapose this to what Erica Kirk said and and what so many eloquent speakers said yesterday at this memorial service and you know, a group of people outside the memorial service, you know, a sign being held by somebody, and I I don't know what would compel somebody to do this, you know, rot in hell.
Uh bad things happen to bad people.
Uh you have a prominent congresswoman, part of the squad, which is the one of the leading voices of the dem Democratic Party in light of the assassination, calling Charlie Kirk Dr. Frankenstein and reprehensible, hateful man, uh then lying, saying he didn't believe we should have equal access to anything.
Uh just didn't believe I could I he didn't think I could be smart enough.
Uh I could have thoughts that that I could have thoughts that would be equal to that of a a of a white man.
Uh even Joe Manchin, you know, stunned saying the Democratic Party is getting worse, not getting any better.
I think that's one of the reasons he left the U.S. Senate, uh, and why so many people he pointed out are leaving the Democratic Party.
I I don't know what to make of it, to be honest.
I mean, it's like it's beyond shocking.
Well, I but let's start with what I said is my premise, which is that this is all real, that from their side they feel desperate, uh, that they are being driven to more and more radical and hostile uh views out of desperation, not because they feel confident, but because in fact uh they are uh terrified by what they're seeing happen.
And what's happening is as the country continues to move away from them, uh as people increasingly see them as weird, unacceptable, uh alien to the American tradition, they're gonna become more desperate.
Uh they're not going to become easier to deal with.
And are you saying, and I I hate to even ask this question, but there were two would-be assassins against Donald Trump.
They assassinated Charlie Kirk.
Uh we we saw the violence in the summer of love in 2020, dozens of dead Americans, thousands of injured police, billions of property damage.
Uh but quote, the media and the Democrats said it was mostly peaceful.
I mean, are you telling us that this is now just going to be part of American culture and American life and that they're going to just keep doing this and get away with this?
Well, I don't think they're going to get away with it.
I mean, if you'll notice uh the assassin is going to be tried and either get the death penalty or get life without parole.
Um, so I mean, you know, we're going to go after people.
Antifa now is about to be declared a terrorist organization, and the people who donated to it uh will face uh consequences, I think, which almost certainly will include George Soros and his people.
Um I think you're gonna see the country in an organized way become much more militant and much more aggressive about being against anti-violence, against those who would advocate violence, uh, and against those who would create the kind of uh hysterical hatred of the of the rest of us.
I mean, you look at what some of these people say, and you're exactly right.
You look at school teachers who have been, you know, said you know that they would they they're glad that Charlie Kirk was dead.
Um, that that's totally unacceptable, and I suspect you're gonna find a lot of people getting fired for saying things like that.
But I do think uh you shouldn't underestimate uh from the standpoint of somebody who is believes in transgenderism, or somebody who believes passionately that there should be no borders, uh, that the U.S. is a bad country.
Number the left has for 50 years now painted this picture of a bad America.
Well, the folks who believe that are now very frightened that uh they're about to be dumb and dominated uh by margins so big that they have no hope of winning by that very um what they would have thought are called bad America, what you and I would call the United States of America uh the American dream, the American Constitution.
So we're gonna celebrate a 250th anniversary next year of the launching of the Declaration of Independence.
People on the left will not celebrate it.
Uh because they will think, you know, this is the beginning of a terrible country.
Uh and you see this when when you deal with the hard left, it's amazing that they live really in an alternative universe.
Well, I'm looking at it, you know.
I've tried to actually engage Governor Gavin Newsom and say, when is enough going to be enough here?
And, you know, after a fairly reasonable text exchange, uh, which I won't disclose.
You know, I I thought I had made progress.
The next thing I see is on XEPOS, DHS Secretary Christy Gnome is going to have a a really bad day.
And then he he signs a bill, no more masks ice in Los Angeles.
Uh you know, uh I mean uh to me that is that is very dangerous.
Uh and now it's even been referred to a U.S. attorney regarding this.
I mean, what is he thinking?
Why would you say that about the Department of Homeland Security Secretary?
We have a supremacy clause.
He knows what the law of the land is.
You know, but why would why are people going to that extreme?
I mean, is is it to get a nomination?
Is it what is the motivation behind it?
Look, there's a there's a block of people on the left who favor the criminal over the police.
They favor the illegal immigrant over ice.
Um we keep, you know.
Frank Monroose once gave a speech trying to explain Nazi Germany and said, uh, if you're standing next to a rattlesnake, you don't have to wait until it strikes uh to decide that it's dangerous.
Um I think we have we we because we believe in a free society, because we believe in living with our neighbors, it's very hard for most everyday normal people to understand that they may have neighbors who have a deep vicious hostility towards them.
Uh and yet we know uh we've now seen example after example of people on the left, uh, whether it is um, you know, uh shooting the Republican majority leader uh at a baseball field, uh, or it is trying to assassinate a Supreme Court justice.
Um I mean, there's incident after incident after incident now.
Uh and of course there was the whole glorification of violence in the summer of 2020 when people on the left thought it was wonderful to burn down buildings, including police stations, uh, to generally cause chaos.
Uh you'll notice, by the way, radical difference in the two sides.
Uh, when Charlie Kirk uh gets gets killed, you don't see riots by the by the conservatives.
You don't see conservatives out burning down buildings.
There's deep anger.
Uh there's a deep sense that something's terribly wrong.
But we in fact are trying to use the rule of law to straighten the country out, which is why I thought President Trump's designation of Antifa as a terrorist group was a very important signal about where this is going to go.
Uh, we are going to, in fact, uh have a have a reckoning with all these various elements who've been trying to destroy America.
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Terry is in Minnesota.
Terry, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Sean, it's a great honor to uh to to talk to you.
Um I just want to comment on I watched the uh memorial yesterday and very heartfelt.
Um I I didn't know Charlie.
I only followed him for about the last four and a half years on social media and loved his content, just loved what he was doing for this country and for the young uh for the youth.
And now it you know, it's it's hard to just imagine that all I can do now is to watch repeats of Charlie Kirk uh Kirk.
I I won't be able to see the new content and the new in the new uh you know videos and for him moving forward with the young uh college kids.
Um so so for me, one out of millions, it it's hurt it's hurtful.
Um even my son said the same same thing.
He said he wished he could unsee the video, and I think millions of people are are feeling the same way.
A lot of people feel that way about that video a lot.
A lot of people have told me that, and then I have other friends that told me that they they that they won't look at it, period end of sentence.
And you know, because of what I do for a living, I I feel like I I feel obligated to look at it.
And number one, but number two, I because I don't think you have to deal with the reality sometimes.
When when ISIS lined people up on a beach and beheaded them, Daniel Pearl, you know, these the videos from October 7th, 2023.
I wish more people in the media and the and the punditry world and you know, these idiots on college campuses and in the halls of Congress that are anti-Semitic.
I wish they'd look at those videos that I've seen.
Uh, because I think it it does change your heart and mind.
But you're right, you don't ever get those images out of your head ever.
Um it was Yes sir.
For me, for me being from you know, Minnesota, um, only did I only learn only a few weeks, two and a half, three weeks ago, you know, that that Charlie was supposed to be speaking here today, actually.
They're they're here.
Uh the turning point is at the University of of Minnesota, and I and I was looking forward to going to that.
And just I wanted to be part of it.
Um, and and it's it's a real sombering moment, you know, that uh well, I'm gonna tell you one thing that I I am glad for my own personal self.
When uh when I saw Charlie at the White House when I was doing the inter my first interview with President Trump when he got back in office, I met him at the gate and we talked for a while.
And I got to say to him I said that you know what, I really want to thank you for all that you did during this campaign and your ability to connect with young people and bring them out to the ballot box.
Um, because what he did was miraculous.
It was spectacular.
You know, now that I you know as I look back and all the video, I wish I thanked him for one other thing.
And the other thing is the message that he was delivering to young people that they don't hear on college campuses about going to church, believing in God, uh, to be respectful, men be respectful to women, uh, women be respectful to men.
I mean, the the message, they're not hearing this in school.
They're a little indoctrination centers as we know.
And and more importantly, you know, the politics obviously was second to him.
And that message is not being heard.
Our children are not getting fed that message enough.
Um, he was very special in that way.
Um I I the magnitude of what as I've been saying of this, what has happened here moment.
We cannot calculate right now.
It's incalculable.
But in time, we'll be able to measure it through the prism of history.
That I promise you.
Uh thank you, sir.
Terry, appreciate the call.
Greg in California.
Greg, how are you?
The United Socialist Utopia California.
Thank you for checking in.
Thanks, Sean.
Uh, good to talk to you today.
Hey, I have a question and a comment about yesterday.
My my question is with President Trump's near assassination in 24, and then all the death threats that Charlie's received.
Why was there no drone uh surveillance up at the place?
I mean, how difficult is that?
It just seems like a big mistake on the part of security team.
I I I'm gonna give you the short answer of of it.
Um the short answer is the type of security that you're describing is extraordinarily expensive.
And it is but but now moving forward, we have to think about security differently, right?
This is this is not a new phenomenon.
Silencing conservative voices on campus are not a new phenomenon either.
Right.
Ryan.
And Sean, I have one comment about yesterday's uh Memorial Service.
Um I I I thought it was wonderful.
I thought it was moving and uh speakers were terrific, and and I one I especially know it was Dr. Ben Carson when he noted that um Charlie was shot at 1224.
And then if you go to John, the book uh Gospel of John, chapter 12 or 24, it talks about if a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it will produce much fruit.
And I I firmly believe that you know, starting with the Asgray revival back in 23, that the Holy Spirit is really moving and that and that Charlie Kirk's death is gonna spark a incredible revival here.
I mean, you you consider that that um YouTube is reporting they've had seven million contacts for yesterday's yesterday's uh memorial service, seven million.
And and you look at the number of uh TPUSA chapters that are asking for application or would be chapters after cases.
I mean, the Holy Spirit is moving, and I think Charlie will do more in death, unfortunately.
I mean, in a way, because we'd love him alive, but than he did when he was living.
Um I I again, I don't think we can calculate the magnitude.
He did so much good and he had so much to offer.
And, you know, at the end of the day, all of us, whether we want to accept this truth or reality or not, we're not on our time.
We're on God's time.
And, you know, for the time, that's why I think it's incredibly important that everybody make individual decisions, you know, tell the people in your life you love them.
You know, every day matters, every moment matters.
And every moment that you have in your life, you know, live it the way that that you would want to be remembered by.
And I think there's a there's a lot to learn, you know, in somebody's passing like this.
Um I mean, I thought one of the more beautiful moments during Erica's speech yesterday was, you know, she she she gave advice to young people about how to have a great marriage.
Uh we're not teaching our kids this, you know, about sir, you know, Charlie would ask her every day, how can I better serve you?
Charlie would leave a note, you know, for his wife every day, once a week.
I mean, things like that.
There's there's all sorts of creative things that people can do to show the people in our lives that we love them and that we care about them and check in with them.
And um the idea that you know, there's always been this attitude.
I've uh we've discussed it before.
Well, men are the head of the household.
Uh you know, the how about the word gentle before men?
Be a gentleman.
And it doesn't mean you're Fred Flintstone or Pam or you know, Barney Rubble or Bam Bam.
It means that you're there to be the to serve your family, just like and you are partners with your wife.
You know, you uh that it's not somebody that well, I'm the head, you gotta listen to me.
No, and I thought she I thought that Eric was very eloquent yesterday in advice for both men and for women in in terms of how to we can better get along and have better families.
And I think that is the foundation of a strong society.
Very powerful.
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Don Lake Ron Concama.
Don, welcome aboard, sir.
How are you?
Hey, sure, and thank you so much for taking my call.
Yeah, I've been I binge watched that entire Charlie Kirk Memorial.
And uh it was very impressive.
All the speakers.
Uh you know, Charlie stood for Faith, Family, and Freedom, and that certainly was on display at that memorial service yesterday.
And uh all the speakers uh um the the crew from the uh turning point, the leaders, Larry Own and Ben Carson, Stephen Miller, and Donald Trump, his son.
It was just it was just very uplifting, sad, but uplifting, and of course Erica Kirk's summation, you know, her uh forgiving that horrible man who took uh her husband's life.
I don't think it was a tear uh dry eye in the place, and certainly across the country.
It was just an incredible uh memorial.
And at the same time that that was going on, we're hearing from uh Jasmine Crackpot saying that uh Charlie Kirk was targeting people of color, lying her lying her head off on uh CNN.
So the saga continues.
We still have uh a long ways to go.
It's just amazing to me.
We do have a long way to go, but you know what?
There is there's an opportunity for reset.
Every day is an opportunity to reset your life.
Every day is an opportunity for you to get up and want to be a better person.
And the path is is out there, and I think faith for me is a big big part of that path.
And I think that I think it's critical.
Um if you want to have you know happiness, wellness, peace in this life, I think that really is the only path.
That's my own personal view.
And um, and I thought people were so eloquent about it yesterday that it was it was move very moving, very touching.
It was a strong reminder and a moment, a reset moment for everybody in everybody's life.
And I hope people take advantage of it.
Don, we appreciate you, man.
God bless you.
800-941 Sean Z in Idaho.
Hey Z, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
It's uh nice to kind of meet you.
Thanks for having me on.
Well, it's great to have you.
Thank you for checking in.
What's on your mind?
Erica's remarks were just so amazing.
Um I that is Charlie Kirk's wife, right?
I just had a brain part.
Yes, yes.
Erica.
Okay.
Good.
I couldn't believe that, you know, even in this I mean, she has this worldwide platform available to her, and she's just such an amazing Christian example.
And how she forgave, you know, forgave the shooter and just talked about how, you know, we can't fight hate with hate.
You know, that was that was really cool.
And I love that.
Um part of what made Charlie so awesome is that he would reach across, you know, dividing lines and say, You disagree with me, let's have a conversation.
And I agree that this is a reset or a turning point in our country, and I hope that we can turn toward each other and not away from each other.
And I think a huge re or a really huge and effective way, but a simple thing is to just change our vernacular toward each other.
You know, it's like there's so much they versus them.
I mean, even like the left versus the right, and it's you know, um, so this antagonistic in in its very nature.
And you know, I understand like, you know, in your position and you know, in other radio shows and other conservative talk shows, it's like, well, how else do you identify, you know, people that I disagree with?
Um, and even though I think if the vernacular changed, you know, quote unquote up high, it would trickle down and help us become, you know, more unified, lower, um, if you will.
Um but at least we've we've heard some of the worst vile putrid, despicable, disgusting, repulsive language from the left since, you know, in the last twelve days.
I don't know how you can change their hearts and minds.
I don't.
I don't know what makes people that sick, to be honest with you.
But as we've been playing and going over in the course of this program, I I don't know how you have a conversation with people that think that way.
We can have political conversations all day, but if you know your your reaction is to show up at at a memorial, you know, with a sign that you're you're holding up that says uh, you know, rotten hell.
I mean, I don't know how you deal with people like that, or Congresswoman Omar or AOC or Jasmine Crockett or or any of these people that have been make making these vile comments.
I really don't I don't know where the conversation begins because that's just basic human decency to me.
Um I do have to run Z. Love our friends in Idaho.
God bless you, appreciate the call.
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