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Understanding The Kirk Legacy - September 17th, Hour 3
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If you want to be a part of the program, uh it's incredible the reaction.
I've I've spoken to a lot of young people and how they've been impacted at this political assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And I said this earlier in the week and last week that, you know, in all the years I've been doing this, my kids only wanted to meet two people of all the people that I've interviewed, all the people that I know, although they do like professional athletes, especially my son, but the two people politically were President Trump and Charlie Kirk.
And my son did get to meet and spend time with Charlie, and it meant a lot to him.
Um I wanted to bring on bring back to the program two young people that have been on before.
Uh Isabel uh Brown and Catalina Lauf.
Uh they'll join us in a second.
I saw that Isabel actually put out thinking back to last week.
I am so moved by the fact that much of his quiet free time in the green room with me, you know, he was talking about heaven.
As people of faith, we know that death is, you know, something that what I can't actually read this because I can't see it all, but when someone is pure and robbed of life so prematurely, but I rejoice in prayer today that even though you know we've lost Charlie, he's more alive than we are in a fullness of our savior and his anchor in heaven.
Which I thought was extremely eloquent and beautifully written.
One of the things that really stood out to me is Charlie would go into these hostile environments on college campuses, knowing that they're hostile environments, and he'd take on all comers.
He did it cheerfully, did it with a smile on his face.
He'd be called every name in the book.
You're a Nazi, you're a racist, you're a fascist.
Okay, give me one example.
You're a Nazi, you're a racist, you're a fascist.
They could never give him an example, and they look stupid.
I mean, th this is the type of thing, honestly, if these schools were not indoctrination centers, this should be, you know, vigorous debate happening inside classrooms, but it doesn't happen.
Didn't happen when I was going to school.
And it's sad, uh, because this is an opportunity for the free and open exchange of ideas and and principles and opinions and you know, and people should be free to express themselves.
And Charlie would challenge, you know, the indoctrination of many and have a profound impact on these young people.
And secondarily, you know, many young people that were conservative that felt they had to be quiet on college campuses.
It gave them, you know, a sense of validation of what their their true views and opinions are.
Anyway, we welcome back Isabel Brown and Catalina Laufa are back with us.
Uh thank you both for being here.
Isabel, you knew Charlie well.
I saw a picture of you and Charlie uh on the internet at Turning Point.
You work with him.
I did, Sean.
I I've worked with Charlie for about eight years now, and uh, like many of these students that are so inspired by his courage and his ability to tell the truth under fire.
I was one of those college students who started a turning point USA chapter on my campus at Colorado State University in 2017.
And I just have had so many wonderful memories come back this last year of all of the times Charlie spoke life into me and so many other young conservatives who have a national platform now by giving us uh an opportunity, an opportunity to join him in this fight to tell the truth.
And as mentioned in reading my Instagram caption there a few moments ago, I was so privileged to be able to share the stage with Charlie at a pro-life speaking event about two weeks ago today, actually, on the dot.
Uh one of his last speeches here on this earth.
And uh as mentioned there, what he wanted to talk about more than anything else backstage is we spent some time catching up and hanging out like old times was God and his faith, and we spent quite a bit of time talking about heaven, which translated into his speech for the crowd there as well.
He was so peacefully rooted in his calling from God and his vocation from the Holy Spirit to show up and tell the truth.
And I know he carried that same vocation with him through that event at Utah Valley University as well.
You know, I I spent a lot more time this weekend looking at videos of Charlie and because I'm so wrapped up in and doing four hours of broadcasting every day.
It's it's almost completely all consuming.
And and so many things that he said and was saying to young people was so impressive.
You know, Catalina, you know, God forbid you have somebody on a college campus mention God or encouraging young people to go to church or encouraging people not to be part of hookup culture uh or encouraging people, you know, not to be the stupid kid throwing up in the bushes or doing drugs and and finding you the spiritual side of your life,
and and even when you would go out, or if you're a guy, you you would take a girl out, you would respect her, you would pay for your date, you'd open the door, and and he described his own experience with Erica's, you know, he called it an interview process, wanting to find, you know, the purpose of dating to find a potential mate.
Um, and I found that very encouraging in telling people, you know what, don't be part of hookup culture.
You know, this is this is something blessed and sacred, and you don't hear that often on college campuses.
I probably the only time some of these kids heard it was from him.
Yeah, thanks for having us on, Sean.
You know, he was a big brother, so many young men in particularly needed.
Uh, and and I know that firsthand because when I first heard about Charlie, it was back in 2013 when I was graduating college, and he was from my home state in Illinois, and my two younger neighbor boys who, you know, I'd watched grown up, I'd watched grown up, I'd babysat them, they were still in middle school and high school at the time thinking about college.
And I'm sure this goes for a lot of us then that when young people you care about are about to go to college, there's always that fear that when they go off to college, they can be poisoned and indoctrinated.
And we obviously didn't want that happening to these young boys in in our neighborhood.
And one afternoon I was home and from college, and they were raving about this young guy from our state named Charlie Kirk, and about all of the conservative values that he was talking about, social issues, but he was so relatable to them.
And I knew in that moment, I was like, you know what, these kids are going to be okay.
And then fast forward, you know, eight years later to see Turning Point USA become what it was because of Charlie's leadership.
Um, I I was running for Congress at the time, and and I got to meet Charlie, and many of the same mentors and investors and donors who had once believed in Charlie and Turning Point USA uh were now getting involved in politics and and specifically supporting young candidates because of Charlie's advice on to support young people in the political space.
And that just shows, you know, Charlie's impact was generational, uh, and it will continue, and it's just absolutely devastating for all of us in this all around.
You know, I get messages from people who said, I've never spoken out, I've I've never had the courage to, but because of what happened, I feel the need to now.
And so it's up to our generation to carry that torch forward and to live Charlie's legacy in not only a positive light and bring the good that he did, but also bolder, louder, and stronger uh to fight against this evil that's infecting our country, especially young minds.
You know, Isabel, as I was watching a lot of these videos this weekend, and I sent many of them to my kids, and my son's twenty-six, my daughter just turned twenty-four.
She was born thirteen days before nine-eleven.
And this this generation never experienced 911, kids that are in college uh today, and they have no memory of it because they weren't alive.
And this is a watershed moment, I believe, for them.
Uh but just the idea that he would tell young women to know your worth and and to put a high price and value on that and telling young men to be respectful, I just think that those values are timeless.
They absolutely are.
You really hit the nail on the head there, Sean, that this is a generationally defining moment.
You know, I was born in 1997.
I'm what most people agree is the first year of Generation Z. And I have the very, very faintest singular memory of what 911 was like.
I just remember my parents staring at the TV all day.
But we don't have an intimate experience as a generation to understand this concept of all being under attack, our way of life being under attack, uh and what that will do to your society on the other side, that you have a choice to come together in true unity based in truth and based in this idea that we are one nation under God, or you can let evil continue to fester and continue to become more and more impactful tomorrow and every day after that.
Uh, but what I think is so impactful about Charlie's death in particular to an entire generation of people that he spoke to, even those who vehemently disagreed with him, is you're right.
He he was so honed in on this concept of virtue in a generation that so many people had already preemptively written off as too far gone.
I've been somewhat of the Gen Z apologist for the last few years, and Charlie has always championed my my voice in that regard and has written four words for my two books and given me tons of opportunities to share good news about Generation Z on his show and with his organization, Turning Point USA for the last few years.
But we've been seeing this return to culturally conservative values with young people wanting to get married, wanting to go to church, wanting to speak their minds, wanting to challenge their own preconceived notions and get off of these indoctrinating college campuses, start their own businesses, revive this concept of the American dream.
And Charlie saw an opportunity with young people that most of those older than him didn't.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard on national TV programming or radio and programs similar to this one, that young people are all, you know, purple-haired, non-binary, insane people that have lost their minds.
But Charlie saw something different.
He saw a broken generation that simply needed someone to speak life into them and encourage them to embrace virtue in a broken world with young men returning to chivalry with young women, returning to godliness and uh and elevating ourselves as dignified in a society trying to commodify us, and with young people everywhere, finding our innate dignity as made in the image of God.
And of course, it's frustrating to see the vile vitriolic responses from some of the more radical voices on the left celebrating this death or saying that this is normal somehow, it's not.
But I'm blown away by the number of young people, even those who vehemently disagreed with Charlie during his time here on Earth, who have used the past six days or so to look in the mirror and to say, Well, this young man's legacy is so much bigger than electing a president of the United States or reviving the Republican Party.
This is about a return to beauty and what's good and true in society, and I want to be a part of that legacy too.
Yeah, pretty amazing.
Um I I do believe that Turning Point now will be so much bigger than ever.
I had Charlie's pastors on this radio program yesterday, uh, Catalina, and they were amazing people, and and they believe as I do, that turning point is just getting started.
And when Charlie came up with this idea, I I don't think people gave him a lot of uh uh uh uh thought that there was a a huge chance of success, but it was through sheer force of will and dedication that he got people on board to support him and his efforts, and then he did all the hard work and he traveled to all these hostile environments and he didn't stop.
Yeah, you know, Charlie, who you know, I did not know so personal as as Isabel and and others, but I know he was exceptionally well read in history, and he knew that the fight was in the schools and in the culture wars.
And that's exactly why he created Turning Point USA.
And I wanted to bring up history that really highlights that threat.
You know, in a 1960 FBI report, uh, Jay Edgar Hoover once said, during the past two years, quote, communist spokesmen have appeared on nearly a hundred campuses from coast to coast.
Their purpose to create confusion, raise questions, and spread doubt among our young people concerning American way of life.
Quote, he goes on to say that, quote, today the communists are engaged in an intensive campaign to control the minds and win the allegiance of American youth, unquote.
Charlie was the counter to that.
He was going to hundreds of schools, coast to coast, and preaching Americanism, God, good cultural values, and he was so effective in that.
And think about it.
You know, he was born in 1993, and that was a report from 1960.
This was decades in the making.
And Charlie came in and was a pioneer in a lot of ways, uh titan for liberty to go and basically unravel all of that.
And to Isabel's point and to your point, Sean, preaching good and doing what was right and creating this uh healthy, friendly debate, this platform for it.
Uh, and that's why he was so effective and so powerful.
Well, I will say this about both of you, having gotten a know you both now, uh, both Isabel and Catalina, both of you have, you know, that that same energy, passion, the same principles, the same values, the same courage as Charlie.
And I know that both of you will play a big role uh in carrying on his mission.
And I want to thank you ahead of time for what I know you're gonna be a big part of.
Um, and what you're doing for young people.
It's incalculable how important it is that they hear the message that both of you uh are espousing.
Thank you, Sean, and thank you for honoring our beautiful friend's legacy.
Uh, it's my pleasure.
I knew him pretty well, and uh I'm heartbroken over the whole thing.
It really is heartbreaking.
Uh, thank you both.
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Uh, I see, yeah.
I I don't know.
It's sort of like when Charlie Kirk was uh being interviewed by Gavin Newsom.
I have no idea where the words Latinx came from.
I had never heard it before.
I mean, well, then we went back in the archives and we found example after example.
Never supported the right of men to play women's sports, and then we found example after example.
I don't know, maybe liberals have bad memories.
Latest example, that idiot governor from Illinois, J.B. Pritzker, saying, Oh, I've never called Republicans Nazis.
Well, we'll play that, and then we'll play him calling Republicans Nazis.
Listen.
That is completely false.
I have never called Republicans Nazis.
Everything that he has done has been tearing down constitutional democracy.
And that's what happened in Nazi Germany.
It doesn't take very long to tear apart a constitutional republic.
Indeed, the Nazis did it in 53 days.
And our democracy is almost as fragile as Uh and we're seeing it right now.
The dangers that we saw in uh in you know, Nazi Germany, uh, especially in the earliest days of Nazi Germany, are the dangers that we need to react to now.
It's a five-alarm fire, everyone.
It's a five-alarm fire that you know, all these radical leftists just lie, you know, with unbelievable, you know, casualness and and just utter hypocrisy.
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Tyson is in Louisiana.
Tyson, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
Super glad that you were able to take my call.
It's an honor to talk to you.
Um Thank you.
The honor is mine.
Yeah, two quick points.
I'm a 34-year-old here in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Uh, a lot of similarities in my life with uh Charlie Kirk, you know, we're both young men trying to raise our families the uh the right way, the Christian way, if you will.
And I think both of us are I mean, I'm not as loud as he is, but uh I like to tell people how it is.
You know, if you're gonna ask me about my faith and my beliefs, I'm gonna be blunt with you.
I don't know if that's just a southern thing, but um, that's my first point.
Uh, secondly, uh, I I do think that there is I don't know how you put light on this situation, but I read an article Monday that said there was thirty-two thousand turning point USA chapters that were being applied for.
Did a little bit of homework myself.
And if we have it is right, thirty-two thousand requests for new turning point USA campus chapters, thirty-two thousand.
I read that, and I did just a little bit of homework.
I know you don't have to be a university to hold a Turning Point USA chapter, but just if we have 6,000 universities, that's over 6,000 applications of university, and that just shows that God is working.
And I think it's important that as conservatives, as Christians, we remember that.
It is a scary, scary world that we live in, though, when these people can assassinate somebody, whether it be Charlie Kirk or Brandon Thompson, the CEO from the UnitedHealthcare, just celebrate death.
But I just want to encourage you and encourage your audience that God is good and that we have the higher ground because Christ is on our side.
But, man, it's scary.
It sure is.
Well, I want to encourage everyone to do exactly what you're doing.
And that is, you know what?
Don't be timid.
Don't be afraid.
And you know what?
I think this is a moment where conservatives now can be just as plain and outspoken, you know, with patience and love and kindness.
Don't be like the radical left.
And live by example.
And, you know, it's gotten to the point where I think kids got afraid to even mention their belief in God and mention their faith.
And yet, you know, most Americans are afraid.
faithful people.
We are generally a very good people we're not a perfect people Christians are not perfect people.
As a matter of fact that the prerequisite to first become a Christian is to admit that you're wrong.
Admit you know and acknowledge your fallen state acknowledge that you need forgiveness.
Acknowledge that you are incapable of changing yourself.
The word repentance comes from the Latin to change one's heart and it's a pr I there there's there's been false perceptions of Christianity that are out there all Christians wants to proselytize.
If you want to ask me about my faith I'll tell you what I believe and uh I don't I don't I would not be here today I can tell you with a certainty without it that's how important it is to me in my life and it just is at the core of who I am again not perfect.
All of sinned and falling short my friend but I'll explain my journey I was just gonna say there's a saying out there it's uh you cannot heal wound by saying it's not there.
And that's really the only thing that separates Christians from others is that we understand we have the wound.
We understand we need healing and that's where Christ comes in and uh so you know continue to you know praise God if you will and you know keep putting Christ first and just know that there's there's hope for us.
You know there's there's hope in this scary world.
There's a lot of hope in the scary world.
You know, one thing as a Christian that you do understand is there's good and there's evil, but we also know how the story ends.
We know it's going to get bad because the Bible is very clear about that in the last days, but we also know how the story ends.
And, you know, as we've seen so much vile, putrid, disgusting, repulsive comments of the left, we've also seen incredible acts of kindness.
generosity and an awakening in the country that is inspiring, you know, and I, I maybe should focus more on that aspect of it.
Tyson, God bless you in your journey, my friend.
Appreciate you uh calling uh great call uh Ross is in my free state of Florida Ross how are you glad you called sir hey Mr. Hannity thanks for having me on thank you for calling what's going on uh so number one I mean Charlie Kirk was was one of one and I think um you know I'm roughly his age I got a a a group of kids myself and um just kind of preparing them for the future and one thing that just was so amazing about uh Mr. Kirk was the way that
He just had this breadth, this wealth of knowledge and the conviction he was able to express his ideas of whether it be politics or religion or, you know, civics, history, any of that.
And so as somebody that wants to get more involved in this type of, you know, area, where do we start?
It's a little bit overwhelming when you listen to him and how easy it is for him to talk about this.
And obviously that takes years of research and reading and whatnot.
So in order for us to kind of carry his legacy on, where is a good place for us to start and kind of build that wealth of knowledge that he had?
Well, first of all, you already have it.
You just may not know how deeply you have it.
The fact that you have it in your heart and it's your desire and it's within you, you know, just let it overcome you and immerse yourself in it.
and follow the path that God has obviously put
put you on you know I I'm I am a very firm believer that every human being was created by God with a purpose and that that is the fundamental you know meaning of the word education from Latin and that you know all of us were born with talent and ability and it's unique and and very specific for every individual and obviously your heart is calling you in in this direction to contribute.
Maybe it means just volunteering at your local church maybe it means devoting yourself a little bit more deeply to your family your fa your kids uh maybe it's you know doubling down on what your value system is look I could tell you right now there's probably people right now that are in their car and they're probably driving to do something they know they shouldn't be doing what do you think the odds of that are probably pretty high right yes.
You know what I want to say to that person turn around go home to your family.
Don't do it people that are do about to do drugs, don't do it.
Go seek out help.
You know make a phone call call call a friend call a family member you know call a hotline whatever you need to do and and use this moment because we really only have the moment you know the the past is the past the future is in here.
but you live in the moment.
And I believe, you know, if you, if, for example, Moses, what did Moses, what did God tell Moses?
You know, when Moses asked, well, who should I say sent me?
I am.
What does that imply?
Always was, always will be, ever present, omnipotent.
And, you know, I look at the beauty and the majesty of creation, and I just know that the hand of God is all over it.
And, you know, if the Bible tells us that every grain of sand sand on the beach is counted and the hairs of our head are counted, I kind of have a lot of confidence that that God knows what he's doing and will guide all of us if we desire and seek him out.
I really just think it's a matter of opening your heart and wanting it.
I don't think it's any more complicated than that and it will come into your heart.
And I've experienced it in my own life I don't talk a lot about it but I guess this is as good a time as any two to do so.
All right it sounds like how old are your kids by the way from eight down to four months.
How many kids in total?
Five God bless you I I had two and that was hard.
So you know just be there for them just take them to church every week.
Start there talk to them.
Yes sir you know I'm I'm I'm glad as as my kids have gotten older you know I've gotten closer and closer and closer and closer to them there's nothing we can talk about nothing.
They can tell their dad anything.
Ross, God bless you, man.
Appreciate it.
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Kim in Delaware.
Hey, Kim, how are you?
I'm well, Sean.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
Thank you for calling.
Thank you.
I'm listening to everybody talk about our fear.
And I think that, I know for me, that's the biggest problem, is leading up to last Wednesday, I was just afraid.
I'm afraid of offending someone.
somebody I'm not going to say something about my faith or my beliefs because I'm afraid that I'm going to offend someone who doesn't agree with me.
But of course they're free to say things to offend me.
And after Wednesday I just realized That there's a whole population really as cliche as it is, it's the silent majority, and we're just we're realizing that it's time for us to be loud.
Um the far left is so loud, and it's time for us to show that they're not the majority, they're just really loud.
But it's time for us to be louder and to not be afraid.
Uh, I say all the time, let not your heart be troubled, right?
You believe in God, you believe in me.
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you.
Not as the world gives, but as I give.
Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
I don't I I don't want to ever live my life in fear.
And it has directed me in my life.
Uh, you know, we use terms like in sports, no fear, no fear, right?
Well, I think that's also a good motto to live life under, right?
No fear.
That you're not gonna let fear consume you in your life.
Or or I tell my kids all the time, don't care what other people think about you, or else you can't live.
I say I ask them, do you think I could do my job if I cared what the people that hate me think about me?
I could not do my job.
Well, and I think that's where so many of us on the right have fallen, is that we're like I put my flag at half mass, my personal flag at half mass, and my first thought when I did that was maybe I shouldn't do this.
What if they burned my house down?
And I still did it, but that's so awful that that's my first thought is instead of supporting and honoring this man who was assassinated.
I'm afraid of what people will say, what they will do because it's just gotten so ugly.
You know something, uh, I appreciate your blunt honesty.
God bless you, appreciate it.
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