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Sept. 11, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Tragedy in Utah - September 10th, Hour 2
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All right, hour two Sean Hannity show.
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We don't have any updates as it relates to the news of the day.
If you're just joining us, uh Charlie Kirk, um, who we all know very well in this program, uh turning point USA was shot during a campus event earlier today at Utah Valley University.
AP is reporting he is in critical condition.
A man has been taken into custody.
Um we're updating you.
Uh we're gonna update you on that in a second.
Apparently, known to uh my friend and and and host at KNRS, our affiliate in Salt Lake City.
We've been friends for decades.
Rod Arquette, we'll get to him in a minute.
Uh we're also following another shooting story, unfortunately, this one out of Colorado.
Um multiple arrests apparently have been made here uh at uh Evergreen High School in Colorado.
At least two students have been injured there, other victims hospitalized, and um authorities obviously investigating that.
If we get more details on that shooting, we'll we'll bring you up to speed as as quickly as possible.
Um anyway, we bring back Rod Arquett.
Uh Ron Kett and I go back many, many years together.
Uh we he used to be my boss when I was at the uh uh ex-wife station until we made the number one station on KNRS, 105 uh point nine in in Salt Lake.
But um we've had a lot of good times together, and uh he knows the area so well and the people are so well.
You know, one of the things that always sticks out in my mind about Salt Lake City, you know, Rod is I I'll never forget uh I felt like I was always going back in time.
Like I felt like it was reminiscent and in a good way, in every good way.
I remember, you know, being part of a parade one year with one of the Stadium of Fire events, which was, you know, one of the greatest events ever put on anywhere in the country.
And and just walking down the streets, it's felt like circa nineteen fifties USA, but you know, we've also had, you know, uh you guys like every other city and and every other area across the country.
We're dealing with this this crime problem.
It's in small towns and big cities.
I I don't understand the mindset that has led us to defund the police, dismantle the police, no bail laws, reimagine.
Uh it's not applicable to this event, but we can restore law and order.
I think the president proved that with Washington, D.C., but um then you can't stop evil.
And it seems that uh apparently we have what appears to be the man that took this shot on Charlie is in custody.
We've had multiple callers call in.
Uh a guy in a blue shirt, older gentleman.
Uh you have looked at that video.
This is somebody we're not gonna mention names.
This that person that is again, not confirmed, but is somebody that's familiar to you.
Yes, he he is Sean.
Matter of fact, uh since we talked originally a few minutes ago, we have now seen video of a second person earlier being taken into custody as well.
So there may be two suspects.
The person you referred to, uh this gentleman who was who we saw initially, and we saw a video of him on the ground in handcuffs, police surrounding him, something Like this.
Then a short time later, we saw a second video of police hauling a guy into the back of a uh an SUV.
They they they got him by his arms and legs.
They're carrying him in this van.
He may be the suspect.
Now, since then, we have learned the university has issued a statement.
They're indicating the shot may have been fired from a nearby building about 200 yards away.
Knowing that let me I can add some context to that, because Newsweek is reporting at this hour uh that the university released a preliminary uh number of details following this reported shooting of Charlie.
Uh and according to a university spokesman who spoke to Newsweek, uh Kirk began speaking around 1 p.m.
That would be local time in in Utah in Salt Lake City at approximately 1 20 p.m. a single shot fired from the top of a nearby building, roughly 200 yards away from the venue, uh, which it would not be a far shot for anybody that knows how to shoot a rifle.
The university confirming that he was struck, the suspect is now in custody.
One other thing we can update you on, and this is directly from the associated press, uh, Charlie Kirk, uh CEO, co-founder of uh Turning Point USA is in critical condition at a Utah hospital as of now.
Well, going back maybe ten minutes ago, uh, after being shot at a college event, videos posted on social media from Utah Valley University show Kirk speaking into a handheld microphone while sitting under a white tent and blazoned with slogans,
the American comeback prove me wrong, and a single shot that seems to be a consistent refrain and report rang out, and Kirk can be seen reaching up with his right hand as a I mean the blood you can see the video.
There was a close it was a video of close up taken and blood gushing from the the uh the side of his neck, stunning spectators.
Um but anyway, continue what you were saying.
Well, and Sean, if if that is the case, and the university obviously is now confirmed it, it would be unlikely that the individual we know would have been on that building.
My guess is he he's one of these guys who's always in the crowd.
You see him, he usually is right up front.
So that would lead us to lead the other suspect who we do not know, and who was taken in custody, that could be the individual who may have fired that shot from the uh college building.
So, you know, you've got two people who are taken into custody.
One we know, we think we know, the other we don't know, and that's where we stand today.
And we're hearing the same thing about Charlie Kirk.
He he he he's stabilized, but he's still listed, of course, in critical condition, and we can all just hope and pray uh that uh Charlie Kirk will be okay because he is he has done so much uh for this country and engaging, especially young people in politics and talking about the issues.
We need voices like him and Holley, hopefully he'll still be there.
By the way, this just breaking in, and again, this this is uh just uh this is not a rush to be first.
We're just trying to pass on information as it becomes available.
Obviously, we can't confirm, but we are using legitimate sources.
Now the New York Times, just to be very clear, reporting the police have determined the man taken into custody was not the shooter.
I'm assuming they're talking about the guy in the blue shirt.
Yeah, the um the guy we know is in the blue shirt.
Now, Sean, I don't know if you've seen this, but John Solomon and just the news is reporting that Charlie Kirk is dead.
That's coming from John Solomon with just the news.
I've never wanted my friend John Solomon to be to be more wrong than now.
Yeah.
I pray to God that's not true.
Oh my gosh.
The headline reads, Charlie Kirk, dead at 31 after shooting at Utah event, three officials confirm.
That's what we're just seeing coming across right now, Sean.
I've been getting texts from sources that have been saying this that are credible.
John says it's true.
Linda just talked to him.
Yeah.
Rod, stay right there.
Um, Dr. Brian Tyson, our friend is with us.
Uh, Dr. Tyson, you saw the video, and then we did have a young girl that was an eye witness in front of that stage.
It was very hard to talk about.
And she said that, you know, well, people that they started carrying him out.
But if you look at that close-up video, if you look at the video, you can see that the blood was gushing out of his neck.
If you don't immediately stop that bleeding, I I don't know how you don't bleed out.
And and that was my fear from the second I saw that video.
My hope was that there might be paramedics there, skilled professionals that that would be able to, you know, have triage and and stop that bleeding immediately because that's what it would need, isn't it?
Yeah, I mean, I we we I look at the video.
Um I I've done ER medicine for quite some time, you know, 13 years of it, and it it does look like a severe traumatic uh wound to the left side of the neck, um, likely involving the common carotid artery and probably even the internal and external jugular veins.
Um there was a tremendous amount of blood uh coming out, which would have needed to be compressed immediately in hopes that you know you can at least tampon off the the continued flow of blood.
Unfortunately, the carotid artery comes right off the aorta, and so that it's a it's an extremely high pressure vessel, and if it did hit the carotid artery, um I'm afraid what you're saying is probably most likely true.
Did you see the video that I have seen?
Have you had an opportunity to see it?
Yeah, I've I've I've seen it and I've seen a couple of different angles as well.
Um how much time would you have if you were if you were on the scene, and we've been friends a long time, Dr. Tyson.
If you were on the scene and you were there and you could get right in there, what would you do and would you be able to save him?
Um it would be so in yet you you have to put immediate pressure.
You've got minutes if if if that um with with a uh wound that size.
Um would I have been able to save him?
Not not likely if it hit the carted common carotid artery.
You have to put a lot of pressure, which would then compromise his airway.
Um you would need to have an intubation kit, you'd have to have basically surgeons on site.
Um that's that's a that's a very, very traumatic uh gunshot wound.
Yeah, uh when you sa when I saw it, I just couldn't, you know, just common sense takes over, and I'm like, you can't do this, you know, you you really can't.
We um he's you know, we've we've we've spent time with Charlie uh on multiple occasions, and I I'm I'm heartbroke.
I'm heartbroke too, Dr. Tyson.
I wish somebody like you was there that would have given him uh that would give him the best shot.
Maybe there was I'm still hoping upon hope that there might be a chance that he's surviving.
Uh Rod, what are people telling you there?
Rod Arquette, we'll go back to Rod.
Yeah.
Is he there?
We're getting yeah, I'm here.
I'm here.
Can you hear me, Sean?
I can hear you.
Thank you.
Okay, yeah.
We're getting the same information you had.
We had earlier reports that he was in critical condition and stabilized, but as we just mentioned, John Solomon reporting that Charlie Kirk has died at the age of 31.
We haven't seen other reports come in as of yet, but you know John very well.
John's a reliable source, and if he's getting that information, I think we can uh we can uh understand that what he's saying is in fact fact.
And what a sad, sad day, Sean.
I I I've never had a chance to meet Charlie, but I know you've been very close to him and have worked with him over the years, and uh just uh just a very, very sad story.
Tragic day.
When you when you when you hear, you know, from Dr. Tyson, and then you look at the video and then he describes how quickly and what you would need to do to survive a shot like that, It is a very sad, tragic day.
And this man has done this young man has done so much good in his life.
And we're preying upon all hope that maybe this report is not accurate, but it's not looking good.
Um that video did not look good.
We're going to take a break.
We'll come back.
Uh we'll have more.
Rod will be back with us.
We do have people that were at the event.
They will share what they saw.
Uh we'll have more medical updates, and we're following the news.
Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University earlier today.
Our prayers are with him and his family.
John Hannity.
Charlie.
Let's talk about Charlie the man for a moment.
You might have heard me talking a little bit earlier about how supportive he is of everyone.
I'm sure of you.
I'm sure of me.
He he is uh a family man.
He is a father.
Uh he is a Christian, a true believer in Jesus Christ.
Um tell us about the man you know, Charlie Kirk.
Charlie is a force of nature.
Some of Fox's coverage.
We we do have a lot of people calling in, and again, and Rod Arquette, who's been very gracious.
We've been friends a long time, Rod, and you know, normally we would be joking about you know, uh Crownberger and and our our fun times together, uh, or the time somebody threw a book at me.
It seems, you know, quite uh it seems rather small in light of the events of today.
If you're just joining us, uh Charlie Kirk is has been shot during an event at Utah Valley University.
It was a very bad shot.
There are reports that he's in critical condition.
Just the news.com is reporting that he has passed.
We have not been able to independently corroborate it, so I want to be very careful.
Uh Newsweek is reporting that the the alleged shooter fired from the top of a building 200 yards away.
There is very, very graphic video online of the shooting, and uh what is basically blood gushing out of what looks like Charlie's neck.
It looks like it hit the carotid artery.
Um, which is, you know, in my martial arts training, it is a it it is a targeted strike because of the the heavy blood flow uh in the area.
We just had Dr. uh Tyson uh Brian Tyson on the program, what it would take to save somebody's life if in fact it was the carotid.
We got into that.
Uh Rod, if you can uh stay with us.
We have Brian in Utah, apparently was at the event.
Brian, what did you see?
Where were you?
Brian, are you there?
I guess Brian, we'll put Brian on hold.
It looks like he's uh No, not Rod.
I'm looking for uh I went to Brian in Utah.
Brian, are you there?
Brian's not there.
Taylor in Utah, are you there?
Yeah, I'm here, Sean.
Uh so tell me tell me what you've been hearing and what you saw.
I know this is your alma mater.
Yeah, so I graduated from UVU in 2018.
Um I was vice president of college republicans at UVU.
Um, and I'm disgusted.
And part of my heart rage, obviously, Rod isn't associated with this because KNRS is fantastic, but I'm really disgusting disgusted with the local media here.
They have painted Charlie as white supremacist, this evil person, and I put some of the blame on the local media because they painted.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
They've been they were saying that in the lead up to this event or saying it since he got shot.
No, there was some articles from some of the local media here saying how bad he was.
And I put some of the blame on them because that Ryles, some of the very small minority here in Utah.
You won't hear that again.
You know, I I you hear this all the time.
I mean, there's this false narrative, false characterization.
I mean, the the rhetoric on the left about Donald Trump and his family and conservatives.
We had we had Eric Trump on for an extended period today, and all that he has been through and his family has been through.
And I'm talking about his brothers.
I'm talking about his sister.
I'm talking about Melania.
By the way, stations along the Sean Hannity Show Radio Network, we're going to continue our live coverage.
Charlie Kirk, according to one report in critical condition, that is our hope at this time.
Other news organizations have not followed through on JustHnews.com's early reporting.
And we're just going to hope upon hope that that's not the case.
Brian in Utah, I guess, was at the university event.
Brian, you were there?
Yeah, I am here, Sean.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
Um it was so just to go back to where you're asking a moment ago, um, I was actually north on the north side of the event up on the on the terrace, the second floor terrace.
The crowd was so crowded by the time I got there, I couldn't get any closer to the crowd.
And so as I was there, uh couldn't really hear the proceedings from that far back, and so I decided to go down the first floor, and there's a tent that was actually in the videos that were shown on Fox News uh as people were starting to scatter, and I was right behind that tent there as the shot rang.
So there was a single shot, and there was definitely not a security presence there hardly, except for a couple officers that I saw directly behind and above where Charlie Kirk was standing.
I didn't see the impact of the bullets, but it was just chaos, and there were people saying, I saw him get shot in the neck, and then uh everyone just started fleeing and into the buildings and then out, and it literally took over 10 minutes.
But did you stay long enough to see?
Because I mean it is very graphic, the video online of the moment he got shot, and it looked like he got hit in the carotid artery, and it was it like a gusher.
I mean, it was I mean, blood was shooting out of his neck, which which indicates that he was bleeding out very fast.
Did you see anybody uh attend to him and put pressure on that neck?
Did you see any medical attention at all going on?
What did they do?
I didn't see anything, but by the time I heard the gunshot and I was behind that tent area, we were just scrambling.
But literally, there was not the medical personnel, there was no one there.
It took at least 10 minutes for personnel we could start where I was leaving and evacuating from the campus because they were getting everyone out, and I was going across the freeway there on the little pedestrian walkway with hundreds of hundreds of students, and you finally started hearing science coming towards the campus, and I saw a fire truck and stuff.
So it was not in it was not an instant response either.
It took time for for emergency personnel to respond and get there.
So I and I'm just hoping is just as much as as everyone else out there that hopefully he's okay, but it sounds like he may not be, and we'll just continue to pray for him and his family.
And thank you so much for your time, Sean.
No, thank you for calling in.
We really appreciate it.
I want to thank everybody in Utah that has called in, all the people that have been at the event.
You know, sadly in moments like this, there are people that like to call in and spoof radio shows as if that's a funny moment to do it.
A man, a father, a husband, uh who's only 31 years old, uh, was you know shot severely in his carotid artery.
And we've got to get to the uh the bottom of this.
Let me go back again to Brian Tyson, then we'll check in with my friend Rod Orquette with our affiliate uh KNRS out in Utah in Salt Lake.
Uh Brian, let me go back again, and that's now the second call that we've had of an eyewitness that says there was not immediate medical attention, and based on the video that we have, let's go through this again in detail, what would need to happen and how quickly based on the video that you saw.
So, I mean, based on the data that we saw, um definitely pressure needed to be applied to the open wound um immediately.
Um there's three main vessels in that part of the neck.
So you have the common carotid artery that runs up to the brain, and then you got the two main uh internal and external jugular vessels that come down from the brain.
Um, you know, in a hopeful world, the we would hope that the bullet missed the carotid artery, and actually what we saw was venous bleeding from a main vessel From probably the uh external carotid or from the external jugular vein.
If that were the case, putting pressure um on that area, even even just handheld pressure, um, could be enough uh to to save off any further um bleeding uh at that point in time.
That would be the ideal scenario in in a in an instance like this.
Um if it did hit in fact hit the carotid artery, um I don't feel like there would be any chance of survival at that point with no medical attention on on scene for ten minutes.
And and Brian, again, walk us through if if you were there behind the tent, you saw what happened, you saw the blood gushing out the way it was.
What would be the treatment that you would you would undertake in that moment?
I mean, the biggest treatment is you you have to you have to apply pressure.
So you would need to put pressure, stabilize the neck, get in with uh uh and get an airway in him um as soon as possible, um uh intubate, make sure that there was no damage structurally to the trachea or anything else with a gunshot wound with of of of that nature.
Um also worrying about maybe you know, did it hit the cervical spine, uh whether any spinal cord damage, so you have to stabilize the C spine um as well.
But you the pressure is the main thing.
Get the vessels uh to to close, um, tamping on those off if you could.
Um, you know, but I mean, you know, medic in the field, it's not like you can you know take a needle and and and tie off an artery.
Um so it's just compression, airway protection, sea spine stabilization, um, and then getting into a trauma center where the trauma surgeons can then take into the EOR and tie off those vessels, and then hopefully the collateral circulation from the other side uh will take care of um the the brain and um any any of the the the vital structures in the in the head at that point.
Uh we really appreciate your expertise, uh Dr. Brian Tyson, thank you.
Uh if you're just joining us, Charlie Kirk was shot during a turning point USA event.
Uh this was in Orem, Utah.
I've been there, by the way.
It's a beautiful part of the country.
Uh the suspect is in fact in in custody.
Um I really don't want to spend a lot of time on this.
We will in the days to come.
Uh, but the commentary on the left immediately after the shooting is beyond repulsive, predictably repulsive, and I'm sure you're gonna get right into the the gun debate will be next.
I'm sure by the time we come on the air tomorrow, uh I'll be playing things that will shock the conscience and soul of anyone that has one.
Apparently many people do not.
Rod Arquette is uh back with us.
He is uh been a long time friend.
We've been friends for decades and have worked together for decades, and he hosts the afternoon show on KNRS, that's our affiliate out in in Salt Lake.
And uh we've had a lot of fun times and great memories together.
And you know, this I'm sure is shaking you know the entire state to its core, uh, Rod.
It has, Sean.
Uh, you know, like you said, uh and Utah Valley University is the largest uh state-run university.
It has grown uh its growth has been unbelievable.
Uh and Utah County is a very conservative county.
It is probably the second most conservative county next to uh down in the St. George area here in Utah.
And um, you know, there was a huge crowd out there for Charlie today.
I want to go back um to I need to correct one thing because we were wrong.
I uh I did see one report that said that they did get the suspect.
The suspect is not in custody.
I need to be very clear about that.
And the person that was on social media in the blue shirt who you even yourself recognized and identified is not the person that is being uh uh a suspect in the shooting.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true, Sean.
I was gonna mention that.
I want to go back to Sean to a comment one of your uh callers, one of our listeners made a short time ago about the media here.
I remember Charlie, and it was probably about a week ago, maybe even less than that, tweeted out in some headlines in various newspapers.
And Charlie's tweet was what's going on in Utah?
Because the the headlines were calling him, you know, uh, you know, uh uh a white supremacist, uh calling him all kinds of names, controversial.
And Charlie tweeted out that, you know, you you would think I could come to Utah and get a pretty warm reception, which he got today with a crowd there, but certainly with not the events that happened.
But even Charlie was kind of baffled to saying, what's going on in Utah when I see the media covering the story like this?
So I thought that was interesting following up the uh caller that you had uh just a short time ago, Sean.
Well, it kind of surprised me.
As I said, when I debated Rocky Anderson back in the day, I was surprised that Salt Lake had a a Democratic mayor.
There are pockets of every state that that have blue areas, and this is one of them.
I'll tell you how repulsive, Rod, and I know this won't surprise you over at MSDNC, uh, Katie Turr reports.
Uh apparently there's this guy, Matthew Dowd, a political analyst, the Daily Caller is reporting that Dowd argued that Kirk's hate speech inevitably led to him being shot.
Uh this I mean, I mean, this is like within an hour of the shooting.
This is within an hour.
He's 31 years old.
What is he said that's so hateful?
You're conservative, you like Donald Trump.
He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger fig figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or aimed at certain groups, and I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, would lead to hateful actions.
Everything he is saying is hateful.
Um, and I can't believe this is where you know the minds of some people go.
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it, but it is so dis grossly repulsive that this is how some people think in this country in the middle of you know a shooting like this.
It's only been not that long ago, you know, just a little over a year.
President Trump was shot.
Uh I went to breakfast the morning of the incident at Trump International with Steve Whitkop, who's now the Mid East uh envoy for President Trump.
We had breakfast that morning.
He was begging me to go play golf an hour and a half later, I get a phone call.
You know, uh, I think they tried to kill him again.
And it turned out in that particular case, he did hear rightly, he did hear gunshots, but it was one sharp-eyed Secret Service agent that that took out the potential assassin in that case.
You know, but I I'm I'm getting the feeling between the rhetoric and everything in between.
It's like there's there's no limits, Rod, in terms of what you you can and cannot say about Donald Trump or conservative, even on in the mainstream media these days.
Well, uh Sean, as you pointed out, and you mentioned this a moment ago, any time you challenge the democratic or the socialistic narrative in this country, just challenge it with facts and explain your position, all of a sudden it's hate speech because you're challenging, you know, the belief that so many on the left have by raising questions and simply Charlie sometimes asking questions, which he did a lot on these college tours.
You know, you're you're immediately i it it's labeled as hate speech.
I've heard Charlie speak a couple of times.
Like I said, I've never met him before.
But Charlie isn't about hate speech.
Charlie shares not at all.
He's he's actually very gentle soul.
Charlie shares what is in his fiber that makes Charlie Kirk what to who Charlie Kirk is.
That is what he's doing to people and asking them to consider it and to wake up and see what's going on.
That's not hate speech, in my in my opinion, Sean.
No, it's definitely not hate speech.
Uh stay right there, Rod Arquette.
Uh, thank you, by the way.
Thank you, Rod, for your friendship and and all your time today.
We appreciate it.
Rod Arquette, uh, you know, host the number one uh afternoon show on KNRS, our affiliate in Salt Lake City.
Uh Alex is in Utah, was at the event with his wife.
Alex, uh, what did you see?
Well, I'm gonna try to keep my composure first and foremost, Sean.
Um, been a great uh fan.
You're a hero to a lot of us here in Salt Lake City, definitely mine, um, all the way back to even uh beautiful Rush Limbaugh.
Um but we were there.
So we watched uh Charlie come out, and um he teasily joked, started handing out hats, and I made a reference to my wife um who was right there to give her a hat because she's four foot nine right up front, and he did so kindly.
Um, and he is a general so like you say.
And literally right after the first debate, I wouldn't even consider it a debate because it was one of his fans that's LDS, and they had a discussion about uh the church, so on and so forth.
And there was a little bit of you know differences there, and Charlie even said flat out numerous times.
I I don't hate Mormons, I love Mormons.
They're great people.
There's nothing against them.
I don't want anybody to speculate that I'm talking any garbage about Mormon.
Um and it was a great opening debate, and literally, as soon as the gentleman walked off, um that's when I heard what I thought was a firecracker.
And as I look up, my wife is trying to take uh a selfie of Charlie right there next to her, and that's when I seen the blood and hit him right in the neck, and I it looked like confetti, but it was his shirt, so I tackled my wife down and just laid on top.
And it it did.
It seriously took minutes to uh even get the ambulance there.
It was probably five, ten minutes before I heard the sirens.
But uh the only thing I pray, because he he's a great father of two beautiful girls, um, that uh his security was right behind him and was able to from what I seen, um, grab him and pull them off stage and apply some pressure.
Um but other than that, I'm getting the mixed reviews too, with him being gone, um, him still in critical condition.
So um his family's definitely in our prayers.
I I can tell you this, and I am texting with John Solomon and John Solomon JustHenews.com.
He's a very reliable reporter.
He's standing by his report confirming that Charlie has passed.
I'm praying that that is not true.
I just wrote him, I said, I pray to God you're wrong.
He and I I I won't uh you know I all of us now are living through really tumultuous times here.
You know, I I'm maybe we get used to it.
Well, our conversation I with Eric Trump, and he's writing about everything that he and his family have been through.
I mean, when you have one family, one man, one organization, you have DAs, you have attorney generals run on a platform to destroy those people.
You know, when did we ever have attorney gener attorneys general run on a platform to get one family, one man, one organization?
But but that's what they have done, and the left has accepted this.
At no point would the left ever even speak up and say, no, Mar-a-Lago's not worth $18 million.
That's ridiculous.
You know, a minor perusal of real estate in Palm Beach, Florida would show you that yeah, that's that's an insanely uh undervalued property.
It's worth well over a billion, but they didn't care.
And and that tells you a lot about how crazy the left has become.
There's you know, for them, for people on MSDNC is you know, being reported to immediately, you know, start blaming the victim here, you know, suggesting, you know, Charlie Kirk's rhetoric made him a natural target for violence, and concluding his remarks is hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which lead to hateful actions, you know, somehow kind of justifying it.
And then you kind of put it all together with all the conversations we've been having about law and order and safety and security, and why there's this callousness, you know, on the on the left and and why they cling to defund dismantle no bail laws and reimagine the police.
And you know, we're we are living through very tumultuous signs, and if you know, what did what did Brian Humpty Dumpty stelter suggest?
You know, we were talking about the the the case of this young woman that was killed on this train in in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Oh, it's baldly racist.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
You have a young woman, a Ukrainian refugee, Irina is, you know, just gets on a train, sits down, looks at her phone, and is brutally murdered in what we're supposed to just accept that and not talk about it, like the rest of the media.
We're living in very dark, dangerous times.
You know, I've I've not spent I'm sorry, what are you saying in my ear and the case?
I texted you, Trump's statement, President Trump statement.
Uh uh.
I don't know if I want to read this.
Um I'm looking at it.
Okay.
John Solomon was right.
Uh from President Trump.
The great, even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.
No one understood or had the heart of the youth in the U.S. better than Charlie.
He was loved and admired by all, especially me, and now he's no longer with us.
Uh Melania and my sympathies go out to his beautiful wife, Erica and his family.
Charlie, we love you.
I never thought John Solomon was wrong.
I was hoping upon hope, Rod Arquette.
Yeah, you're right, Sean.
I'm just seeing it as well.
Uh posting up on uh on uh Fox News a statement from uh uh the president saying Charlie Kirk is dead.
I think we're all in a state of shock, Sean, right now.
I mean this this young man, he's thirty-one, married two beautiful little girls, um doing what he loved to do, talking to the American people, answering their questions, sharing his views, uh on what he believes what America is really all about and what we should be striving for.
Put together an unbelievable organization, turning point USA, the conventions.
I I I I uh my guess is Sean, you've been there.
I never have been, but you've been down to one of them, and I've spoken at them.
You know, I'm seeing a picture right now of him and his wife and one of their girls at a baseball game, beautiful smiles, and uh I I just saw that come across too, and we're all in shock.
And you're right, John.
John Solomon had this right.
John is a uh he he knows what he's doing, and as he shared this information, it took us a while to process and to get the word out, but the word is out now that he is dead after the shooting.
My question 31 years old.
Yeah, 31 years old.
Yeah.
My question now, Sean, is the search for the suspect, because the university has indicated they do not have a suspect in custody right now.
So what is that process like?
We have a lot of connections down in Utah County with the Sheriff's Department.
We're gonna try and follow up on that, see what's going on with that.
But uh truly a very sad day here in Utah and I I think around the country for a just a brilliant young man.
I mean, Fox is showing the most beautiful pictures of his wife and his child two two beautiful children uh that will not know this this young man that was full of life.
I've had some of the best conversations with him.
Um and I don't know why.
I mean, um, but he always was so respectful to me in as much as, you know, you've been doing this a long time.
I I I I need to pick your brain.
I wanna want to talk to you about this, and I'm not gonna get too it into the personal conversations we had, but he he just loved people that had been in the movement a long time, cared about it, wanted to get everything right.
That was that was really the w one of the one of the larger uh discussions that we had ongoing.
And you know, and how did you how have you survived this long, he would ask me.
Questions like that, Rod.
Um I didn't hear what you said in my ear, Linda.
You have to say it.
I can tell you how you survive your tenacious, man.
You are a bulldog.
You won't give up.
You'll stay in there fighting just like Charlie Kirk was doing each and every day.
I mean, you have to just keep on going.
You have to stand up for what you believe in, and times are tough.
You've been through them.
I've been through them.
Certainly, Charlie today and what has happened to him.
You just have to stand up and fight for what you believe in.
And I wish more people in this country would do it, Sean.
I think sometimes we're uh a little too easy, and we need to stand up and say enough is enough in this country.
Rod Arquette, you've been a dear friend.
I know you have your show, and you've been so uh gracious with all your time today.
We really appreciate it.
We are taking calls for people that uh were at the event today.
Uh we can confirm Charlie Kirk dead at the age of 31.
He has a wife and two young children that survive him.
our prayers are with all of them you And Trump just putting on truth.
Social, the great, even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.
No one understood or had the heart of the youth in the U.S. of the United States of America better than Charlie.
He was loved, admired by all, especially me, and now he's no longer with us.
Melania, and my sympathies go out to his beautiful wife, Erica, and his family.
Charlie, we love you.
a suspect it if i don't even know if you can get it online anymore but the initial video that came out that was up close it was uh there was somebody very close to me that is involved in medicine that called and said you cannot survive that and And I looked at it and I just wanted, I didn't want to believe it.
This was a young 31-year-old young man, had his entire life ahead of him.
The conversations we've had, he was so hardworking, so smart, really believed in everything that he said and fought hard for his valise.
You know, young family, wife, two young children that will never know their hero father.
Somebody that was willing to put himself at risk at all times and go into hostile environments for conservatives, which I'll be honest.
I'm like, I one time I joked with him, I said, why?
These people are crazy.
He goes, that's why I go.
Godspeed Charlie Kirk.
Our prayers, love thoughts with him, his wife, his family.
We'll continue our coverage on the other side.
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