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Holding Judges Accountable - September 9th, Hour 3
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If you missed earlier in the program, we had the FBI and local law enforcement in North Carolina that have teamed up together.
And now this stabbing suspect is facing, you know, not only state charges, but federal charges, uh, maximum penalty of well, likely penalty, life in prison without any chance of parole.
There is a chance of the death penalty as well in this case.
Newsweek just uh reported uh just about an hour and a half ago um that in fact uh there is other video of the man after the stabbing of this young Ukrainian woman Irina uh running through the train and with blood dripping from him and uh passengers uh literally some you know shunning him and in in fear, but they appeared to notice the blood and the knife, and one man moved down the carriage away from the suspect.
And quote, I got that white girl, the suspect appeared to be muttering according to Newsweek.
Some other statements were harder to verify.
Uh red states have just had it with blue cities, and I mentioned the Washington Post article, but places like Jackson, Mississippi, Houston, Texas, New Orleans, Louisiana, St. Louis, Missouri, and they are now investing heavily in new court operations to move more quickly to prosecute jail suspects.
You know, the biggest crime in all of this is this was a well-known criminal.
I mean, the judge in this particular case, I think needs to be held accountable.
The magistrate judge under fire for allowing a schizophrenic, repeat offender walk free without bond, just seven months before he fatally killed this refugee from Ukraine, this young woman Irina.
Anyway, the magistrate released a Carlos Brown Jr. on quote a written promise to appear after he was arrested on charges of misusing the nine one one during a police welfare check.
He's homeless, he's diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Uh he has a history of violent, violent, you know, crimes on his record.
What part of this guy not being a threat to society, this magistrate, this judge didn't understand uh is beyond any comprehension.
I have in the case that I just mentioned about the 911 abuse.
His criminal record includes an armed robbery conviction and an assault on his sister, multiple other arrests.
Uh critics have blasted the judge for ignoring this past and you know, letting him and releasing him despite clear warning signs.
At what point do we hold judges accountable here?
Now, Republican members of North Carolina's congressional delegation are demanding the judge that freed the Charlotte Train killer be fired.
As a matter of fact, all ten House GOP members from North Carolina signed a letter urging formal proceedings to remove the magistrate, Judge Teresa Stokes.
They cited her decision earlier this year to release De Carlos Brown based solely on his written promise to appear at a future court date.
Quote, by releasing by releasing a repeat violent offender on nothing more than a written promise to appear, magistrate Stokes displayed a willful failure to perform the duties of her office and engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice, said the lawmakers, including Congressman uh Tim Moore, who joins us now as well as uh Don Brown.
Uh Don Brown is uh, by the way, an attorney author candidate for the U.S. Senate in North Carolina.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Congressman Moore, you signed on to this letter, uh, the entire Republican delegation in North Carolina.
First, our prayers are with the people of North Carolina with Irena's family uh during this time, but my anger is boiling, not just at the judge and the magistrate, but the dopey mayor of Charlotte and the ridiculous comment she made, which we'll get into in a second.
Well, thank you, Sean.
Uh it's uh good to be with you, although I do hate the circumstances.
Uh I I'm the only Republican member of Congress that actually represents the city of Charlotte.
Um and it's uh and this really this really hits uh close to home.
But you know, we we see unfortunately these kinds of crimes happening and and this kind of woke liberal you know, hug a thug type mentality that's out there across the country.
And so we actually are already moving to take action.
You you referenced the letter that we sent to the the supervising judge of this magistrate, but actually I signed on uh as a co-sponsor with Elise Stephonic on federal legislation that actually uh would look at withholding federal dollars from states or from local governments that are that willfully allow these uh no cash bonds, these personal recognizes.
Uh and and this case is just as you pointed out in in the lead in is just so egregious.
I mean, this guy was a dangerous felon.
I mean, he had armed armed robbery, domestic violence, all kinds of dangerous crimes.
Not only should this guy, number one, have been held with no bond, the guy should not have even been out of prison in the first place.
And and I just look at how you know a lot of liberals in our state have tried to, you know, make make it easier for folks to get out of jail and try to give excuses for these criminals.
And what it does is it results in real harm to people is just in the case of this young lady.
And then you look around at our cities throughout the country and the amount of crime and the amount of homeless and all these things, and these you know what we've seen like in Chicago, these these Democrat mayors, and you know that that they hate President Trump so much that they're willing to let their own people be victims of crime.
So it's just it's just absolutely unbelievable.
But uh, you know, look this is so tragic, but it's it's bringing attention to what is a absolutely a huge problem.
Well, it's also an it it's sort of an inevitable outcome when you buy into this idiocy of defund, dismantle, no bail laws, reimagine the police, which uh many, many Democrats around the country have adopted.
You know, look let's let's reimagine the police.
We'll send in the social workers, a lot of good that's gonna do.
Uh let's get your reaction, Don Brown, to the Chicago, I'm sorry, the Charlotte mayor, who said this is a tragic situation that sheds light on problems with society, safety nets related to mental health care and the systems that should be in place.
And then the Democrat, the Democrat added, the alleged perpetrator to Carlos Brown Jr. appears to have suffered a crisis.
No, the person that suffered the crisis was this young girl who worked all day, got on a train, wanted to go home safely, was looking at her phone, and from behind was butchered to death by this guy that never should have been out of jail or out of a mental institution.
And then in a statement, you know, Lyles demands compassion, diligence, and commitment, you know, the same commitment you you would have for cancer or heart disease, uh, for the guy that knifed this this young woman to death.
Your reaction to her.
Well, first off, uh Sean, good to be with you again.
I commend Congressman Moore and other members of our delegation who have called for the removal of this incompetent, soft-on-crime judge.
Uh when I moved to the Charlotte area after getting out of the Navy, we had a six-to-five Republican majority on the city council and county commission.
Pat McCoy was the mayor, and the city has gone to hell in a handbasket of Democrats have taken over.
This this mayor shows her insensitivity to the victim of this crime, but it shows the soft-on-crime approach that these Democrats have taken.
Sean, we did some research today in Raleigh, the other major big blue city in in North Carolina, which is about as bad and as blue as Charlotte.
We found out that 800 uh criminals in the same category as this murderer who had been arrested at least 14 times, eight uh eight hundred had been released over the last ten years, who had been arrested fourteen times.
Just let them in and let them out.
And this goes right to the salt on crime approach that is tearing this country apart.
You saw the idiot mayor of Chicago a couple of weeks ago with Scarborough pressed him, do you want five thousand new policeman?
He said, No, we just want psych we just want we just want psychologists on the street.
Typical Democrat psychobabble.
This just magic needs to be removed.
I commend Congressman Moore for his actions, and let's see how it plays out.
But I hope this is going to be a wake-up call, and I'm calling for President Trump to send a National Guard in to take control of this white rail into the city of Charlotte and get his act together and put policemen on it.
If the city of Charlotte cannot get his act together and put policemen on every car and a light wheel, shut the damn thing down because it was a nuisance and a danger to North Carolinians.
Let's get your take on the mayor, Congressman Moore, who said we will never arrest our way out of issues such as homelessness and mental health.
Can we arrest our way out of lunatics killing random victims?
We had this guy in custody.
I went through his rap sheet.
We went through his mental health issues.
The fact that she's not focusing on the real problem, the fact that the system had him in place and they let him out.
But they didn't let him out once.
They let him out again and again and again, which makes what happened on this train inevitable to me.
Yeah, I mean, I think I do think the comments were were certainly tone deaf on that.
Uh I will say that the release, uh that that the release of this guy really does fall squarely on these liberal judges, and in this case it's magistrate.
But I but I think the problem with Well, the judge seems to be getting moral support from the mayor.
Well, then that's and that's clearly that's clearly wrong.
But I'll tell you the problem the city had was not really enforcing what the uh the fares.
I mean, a lot of these people were just allowed to just get on there and just ride this thing without paying a fare, and so you would get vagrants on there, uh obviously evil people like this guy.
And and and they need to enforce those laws.
They need to make sure that people who are using this uh we are able to be safe.
I mean, this is something that you know, I have family members who have ridden this thing, my son.
I mean, I mean, this this hits very close to home.
And you see that video, Sean.
I mean, this this lady just I mean, she just gotten off of work.
She's getting on the train, and this guy comes over the back and just stabs her.
I mean, it's just it ridiculous what happened.
And I I lack the words.
And the other thing that we haven't mentioned, I I watched some of the video today uh that was released today.
Was there four or five people that were just sitting there, and I don't even know if they even looked up for their phones long enough to try to help her.
I I just what the hell's going on?
I I don't understand.
I don't know if they were in the same car.
I don't know if they saw what had happened.
He seemed to be walking in the other direction.
I saw the video that you're referring to.
But I want to go back to the mayor saying, well, we can never arrest our way out of issues like homelessness and mental health, and then we we go through the long arrest record.
You know, we got a a very violent, seriously mental ill individual repeatedly being confronted by police, serving five years in prison for armed robbery, uh diagnosed with schizophrenia, repeatedly arrested since then, seven months prior to this incident, you know, the judge lets him out, you know, no bail at all whatsoever.
Um I mean, if we can't hold the people responsible for the letting him out, who's responsible?
For example, you know, for all the illegal immigrants that Mayorcus and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris allowed into this country unvetted, known terrorists, murderers, rapists, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members, drug dealers.
You know, tell me, Don Moore, do they have blood on their hands?
Because I hold them accountable, and then I hold the media complicit and Democrats complicit because they were all part of a big lie that told us, oh, the the border's secure, the borders closed.
Well, there's a there is a growing cancer of crime inside these big blue Democrat cities because Democrat leaders have been stopped on crime.
Roy Cooper, now running for the Senate, he he commuted 15 murderers on New Year's Eve before he left office, the same type of thugs that killed a sweet young lady who came over here immigrating for legitimate reasons to escape political persecution.
This is a this is a Democrat mentality.
When Pat McCoy was in office as mayor and this light wheel was put in, there was at least security in the cars.
But if the Democrats have wedged their way into power in Charlotte, they've gotten away from security.
They've left these cars unprotected.
You have vagrants jumping on without even showing a ticket, they just jump on, they ride, and what they'll do is they'll jump on in the most crime-ridden six section of the inner city and ride out into the suburbs and commit crime and ride back.
And so it's just a mentality that the Democrats have fostered on us, and we've got to get tough on it.
What this guy needed not was some sort of psychobal therapist, but he didn't just steal boot up his derriere a long time ago.
And by the way, in North Carolina, we have although we have the ex the death penalty, there's not been an execution carried out since 2006.
That's got to change.
The executions have to be swift and effective.
Because there is no difference.
Well, on the f on the federal side, now that the uh the Department of Justice under Pam Bondy, who will join us on TV tonight, uh, this guy could face the death penalty.
Well, he could, but you've got to carry it out, Sean.
You gotta carry it out.
This guy that shot at the Fort Hood, uh, the Fort Hood massacre is still sitting at Leavenworth, uh, Nigal Hassan, nobody's carried that out yet.
So we've got to have the guts to carry it out and do it quickly, because you can't have, unless there's an attorney, that's gonna stop these animals from doing what they're doing.
You can the death penalty is the most effective deterrent, it's got to be quick and swift.
Well, we're gonna get the same thing.
The Democratic Party now is the party against law and order and safety and security.
We see that playing out with in Washington, D.C., we see it playing out in Chicago.
We see it playing out in California, New York.
I mean, you had 5,000 crimes committed by 63 people, and only five of the 63 are in jail in New York City.
If you can explain that one to me, uh, you're a lot smarter.
Both of you are a lot smarter than I am.
Anyway, Congressman Ward, thank you.
Don Brown, thank you.
We appreciate both of you being on the program.
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Maybe you have the solution.
Uh to me, it's simple.
Put them away, throw away the key, and stop coddling criminals and eliminate defund dismantle uh no bail and reimagine the police madness and secure our borders, which thankfully President Trump has done.
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All right, let's slip in a quick call here.
Don Lake Ron Concama.
Big Don, welcome aboard, sir.
How are you?
Hey, Sean, it'd be a lot better if uh the news today is a little better.
I'm just so upset about that uh poor soul, so innocent.
But I have to agree, uh, don't can't don't these judges owe an explanation why they thought dismissing this monster was in the best interest of the public.
Don't they need to say something?
I mean they should.
I think they should be held accountable, but I've been the only one that I know of publicly saying that Biden, Harris, Mayorcus lying to us, saying the borders closed and secure, they have blood on their hands, nobody else seems to want to say it.
I'd like to know what evidence did this judge or magistrate have that said that this guy could be afforded to be released to the public.
It's just madness, my friend.
You know, you you you wonder sometimes, like, for example, those that were championing a Brago Garcia, Kilmar, and you know, like uh Chris Van Holland and people like Jamie Raskin.
And you begin to wonder, okay, if you want these people out, if you believe in defund, dismantle, no bail, reimagine if you believe in open borders.
Uh let's move these people into your house or next to you.
And why do I believe and why do I know in my heart of hearts that that is not something they'd ever tolerate, Don.
There's such hypocrites.
Anyway, my friend, I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
800-941 Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program.
We are expecting the president in the White House in the final half hour.
If not, we're just gonna get a lot of calls in.
Uh, and we will play for you Tom Holman and his beatdown on Mika Brzezinski on Liberal Joe this morning.
It's uh worth hearing.
Um, let me just to recap if you're just joining us, because this is the top story of the day.
And, you know, between the way Democrats react to this, the fact that we have gotten in this position because of a mindset that coddles criminals, as evidenced by the comments of the mayor and and comments of these idiots on legacy media, fake news CNN, MSDNC, etc., etc.
You have, for example, so the North Carolina train killing suspect is now thankfully not only gonna be charged on the state level, but Pam Bondi, who will be on Hannity tonight, you know, pointed out that Irina was a young woman, a Ukrainian refugee living the American dream, and her horrific murder is the direct result of these failed soft on crime policies that put these criminals before innocent people.
This is what we have now been debating for weeks.
This has been the whole debate about Chicago and about DC.
You know, I couldn't believe yesterday, New York Post cover 5,000 crimes by 63 people, and only five of them are currently in prison.
That is a system that is putting every New Yorker's life in jeopardy.
And nobody does a thing about it.
Just it's a revolving door.
Defund, dismantle, no bell, reimagine the police madness.
It's insane.
Anyway, Pam Bondi will get her full explanation tonight, but she's directed attorneys at the DOJ to federally prosecute to Carlos Brown Jr.
Why?
Because we've gone through his history.
Repeat, violent offender, history of violent crime.
You know, this murder should not surprise anybody.
A history of mental illness, schizophrenia.
They're going to seek the maximum penalty for this unforgivable crime.
Pam Bondi saying he will never see the light of day as a free man again.
Cash Patel, the FBI, you know, hit the train stabbing suspect with federal charges on the in the commuter's on camera attack.
I mean, you have all the evidence you'd ever want.
President Trump has posted about this, and he says for far too long Americans have been forced to put up with Democrat run cities that let that set loose savage, bloodthirsty criminals to prey on innocent people.
Really very innocent people in every place.
They control radical left judges, politicians, activists, and they've adopted a policy of catch and release for thugs and killers in Charlotte, North Carolina.
We saw the results of these policies when a 23-year-old woman who came here from Ukraine met her bloody end on a public train.
It's disgusting.
And you have left-wing outlets.
They're trying to claim Republicans are trying to politicize this killing.
Uh if you can believe it.
Listen to Humpty Dumpty at fake news CNN.
Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, other Trump aligned figures succeeded in making this senseless death a symbol of big city crime.
Some of the comments around this story are baldly racist, stoking fear of African Americans because this man attacked a white woman.
The open racism on sites like X Today, it's eye-popping.
But there are also legitimate questions about this so-called career criminal, someone who had been a repeat offender.
And those questions, I hope they're not lost amid all of the cesspool kind of comments on social media.
I I mean to say that is racist, uh, a symbol of big city crime.
This is an example of defund, dismantle, no bail, madness, reimagine the police, madness.
This young girl should be alive today.
This shouldn't be politicized, and conservatives should not be called racist because they're they're standing up for what is right, and that is the life of an innocent woman.
Just like nobody in Chicago seems to give a damn when 58 people are shot and eight or nine are dead on a weekend, or this past weekend, nineteen shot, eight dead.
No, I'm sorry, nine dead.
The number went up.
Yeah, politico saying Ukrainian refugee killed in North Carolina gets dragged into political messaging war.
This should be why is this not a hundred to zero issue?
Why is not everybody outraged that a judge and laws allowed this serial criminal, this career criminal with known mental illness, to be out on the street.
New York Times, a gruesome murder in North Carolina ignites a fire storm on the right.
Why isn't there a fire storm for everybody?
Why, because they can't weaponize it, they can't politicize It they can't blame Donald Trump for this.
You know, Humpty Dumpty saying pro-Trump activists seized on this, you know, baldly racist comments.
What is racist about it?
We're not talking about race.
We're talking about the safety and security and law and order and the fact that this woman did not have to die.
This woman should be alive today.
Axios stabbing video fuels MAGA's crime message.
I mean, it highlights what we've been trying to tell you.
The revolving door system of criminal justice is failing.
Caroline Levitt today blasting the legacy media, you know, for shamefully ignoring the horrific stabbing of this Ukrainian refugee.
Unbelievable.
I'll give you another example.
You know, so this is the party now that wants to defund dismantle, no bail laws, reimagine the police.
That there's your Kami Mamdani, you know, platform.
That's not gonna that's not gonna work very well.
And on top of it, he wants to decriminalize.
We went over this in detail last night, a whole variety of crimes, including you know, felony assault crimes.
It's insane.
Uh Tom Homan was on Liberal Joe this morning.
I I I've never seen a host with this much utter contempt for a guy that is working around the clock.
I know Tom Holman.
The guy does not sleep because he's busy doing his job, looking for all of the Biden Harris, Mayorcus illegals that have been allowed into this country, including known terrorists, murderers, rapists, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members, and drug dealers.
That's what Tom Holman is busy, you know, fighting for every day to keep people safe.
Anyway, he goes on with Liberal Joe, Mika Brzezinski is furious with Tom Holman.
You know, you what did she say?
Uh something to the effect you can't just cancel people or something.
Listen, but listen to this.
I'd love some transparency as to why a lot of these people have been disappeared.
You say you have dick data disappeared.
Uh we would love to see it.
The American people should see this data.
Well, here's the rhetoric in, right?
You just met disappeared.
That is a ridiculous thing to say.
Why?
Because ICIS is doing the same thing we've done for decades.
But because of the last four years, ICE wasn't allowed to enforce the law.
ICE was told to sit back and you can't arrest an illegal alien for simply being here legally.
You got to wait till they commit a serious crime and can conviction of that crime.
That's the Secretary of Mallorca's instructions work.
And that's why you saw so much, there's so much crime in this country coming from the illegal alien population because there's no law enforcement.
But we're doing the same thing right now that we did when I started back in 1984.
ICE agents are enforcing the laws enacted by Congress.
They're appropriate to funding enforcing laws.
If you don't like what ICE is doing, then go protest Congress.
However, to say we disappeared people, no, we're arresting people that are in the country legally and they are public safety threat.
We know exactly who we're going to arrest when we go look for them.
We have a case file in front of us.
We have all those facts.
This is not disappearing people.
This is a very important thing to do.
I'd love to see the data.
Targeted enforcement operation that we're doing.
I just want to know what ICE agents out in the field right now, what they consider to be a criminal.
Is that someone who has committed a crime like robbed a store?
Or what about Narcisco Baronco, the father of three Marines who was cutting bushes at an IHOP before they took him off the street?
I want to know.
I want to know the data that you say you have about 70% of these people.
Show it to us.
You send me the specifics of that case, and I'll run down with the specifics of that case.
You may not know all the facts around that case.
I may not.
I certainly don't.
That's why I'm asking you.
Well, let me tell you, look.
Right now, I see I see on the show this morning you have Governor Healy talking about ICE doing enforcement operations at a church.
False.
No, they were parked there.
They did not do an operation there.
She said they were parked in a public space legally.
But but to say that and to push that out there puts fear in the immigrant community.
So I mean trying to do that.
No, to do that puts fear in the community.
To park the ICE agents vehicle.
They are on public street.
She's on a public street waiting to respond to a criminal alien release polar side the road.
Let me tell you, in the last couple of days, what's happened in Boston?
They've arrested Victor Gomez Paris, a 33-year-old criminal alien from Guatemala with charges of aggravated rape, assaulting battle with dangerous weapons, indecent assault and battery on a victim 14 years or younger.
They arrested Kaylee Espinosa, a 33-year-old criminal alien from Columbia with charges of aggravated assault on a pregnant victim.
They're arrested Joshua Gonzalez, a 24-year-old criminal alien alien from Dominican Republic with charges for trafficking heroin, morphine, opium, resisting police, disorderly conduct, and drug distribution.
They also arrested Samuel Armando Barrera, a 20-year-old criminal illegal alien from Guatemala opinion charges for assault and battery on a child.
So Mayor Wu and Governor Healy, they all be calling nice and thanking them for making their streets safer.
Wow.
Tom Holman is on tonight on Hannity as well as Pam Bondi, as well as Senator Kennedy.
We got a great show, Nine Eastern.
Let's say hi to Emily, South Carolina.
Emily, how are you?
Hey, great.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me on.
I'll be quick.
I've got two comments.
One is we lived in Charlotte for 30 years, and it used to be a great city until the Democrats took over, and we saw all the stuff that comes into Blue Cities come into our city.
We rode that train a couple of times, but it didn't really feel so safe because there is no security around there, like you said.
And then my second comment, we've moved to Columbia, by the way, just to get out of the blue state.
We're in South Carolina.
Well, Columbia's great.
Are you a USC fan now?
Well, actually are you a gamecock?
Yes, we both went to South Carolina.
So we're kind of coming home.
We hadn't been here in 30 years.
But anyway, then my other comment, I was just kind of agreeing with you on that, but my other thing is I think that the reason that we've got so many people snowed over is because they don't listen to the real media.
They listen to mainstream media.
So if I have to have a conversation with my mother, she has no clue what's going on.
All she knows is all those clips that you play that sound ridiculous.
That's all she knows.
So she has no clue what's happening.
It really is amazing to me, just dripping with contempt.
It was so sad.
I'm going to play for Tom Holman and get his reaction to what went on this morning.
You don't want to miss that nine Eastern.
Anyway, I appreciate the good call.
Thank you, Emily.
Go game cox.
Uh big time AJ.
We don't have a lot of time, but we'll give you about 40 seconds.
Go.
Big time, Sean Hannity.
Big time.
Hey, Sean, what's wrong with these idiot mayors and judges?
You know, she ain't the only one that got killed.
It was a uh a lady got killed walking a dog, too.
And these people, Rosie old that Rosie thing, I'm gonna call her because she ain't worth two dead fly.
She had to call herself apologizing for the comment she made.
And she had to that wasn't no apology.
She just got caught with uh banana in the she made she made more comments the next day.
If I'm Trump, I'd sue her.
Come on.
I would too that again.
You know what, Sean?
What's wrong with these dang on people?
They're George Floyd.
That's why they doing this uh bail, no bail, this and that.
But now just turn the ticket.
I thought every I gotta run uh we'll get you back this week.
I thought every life mattered, AJ.
I thought big time.
I really did, but apparently not.
I appreciate you, man.
Sean Hannity.
All right, Pam Bondi, Tom Holman on his fight on MSD and C, John Kennedy, a great show.
Nine Eastern on Fox C tonight, back here tomorrow.
Thank you for making the show possible.
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