Sean opens with a stark comparison of capital-city homicide rates and why President Trump is moving to federalize DC policing and deploy the National Guard. Former Speaker Newt Gingrich argues it’s a federal responsibility to keep the nation’s capital safe and slams “soft-on-crime” policies that favor criminals over victims. Later, Sean digs into disputed DC crime statistics and speaks with legal analysts about the administration’s authority under the Home Rule Act. The hour closes by previewing the Trump–Putin summit and whether Europe will finally step up on Ukraine.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So many issues to get to with former Speaker of the House, Newt Kingrich, who is with us.
Mr. Speaker, great to have you back.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great, and I've always delighted to have a chance to chat with you.
I love you say that, but you really don't mean it.
I know that for a fact.
I have a chart in front of me.
I've shown it on TV before.
I'll show it on TV again tonight.
And it shows all the different capitals around the world from Uruguay to Baghdad to Nigeria, Panama City, Panama, Brazil, Costa Rica, Colombia, Mexico, Mexico City, you know, Lima, Peru, Ethiopia.
So it also has with it the homicide rate.
The top capital homicide rate by far is Washington, D.C. with 41 per 100,000.
And the next highest is Uruguay, 16.1 per 100,000.
The next highest is Baghdad, 15.2.
And it goes all the way down to Istanbul, Turkey at 1.8 per 100,000.
And so President Trump announced this morning that he's going to federalize D.C. police and deploy National Guard troops in an effort to keep people alive in our nation's capital and fix what has not been dealt with by local officials.
People like Al Sharpton are calling President Trump's crackdown on D.C. crime dangerous and disgusting.
I actually think keeping innocent people alive is a good thing to do, a healthy thing to do.
And the fact that the president cares and what is the alternative?
They've had every chance in the world to fix this on their own.
They've decided not to do it.
They don't care.
Defund, dismantle, no-bail laws.
You know, rules the Democratic Party today.
Well, look, first of all, Washington is the national capital.
And every American should be able to visit Washington safely.
And it should be non-negotiable.
And it's ultimately a federal responsibility.
Unfortunately, like many city governments, the D.C. government, through corruption, incompetence, and ignorance, is unable to solve these problems.
And I think the president was doing exactly the right thing.
When I was Speaker of the House, working with people like Congressman Tom Davis, we profoundly overhauled the city of Washington.
We changed its tax code.
We changed its education system.
We had an audit and overhauled it.
We strengthened its police force, and we launched what became a boom in terms of people moving into the city, businesses moving into the city, which lasted until the decay of D.C. city government, the level of corruption, which is endemic to a lot of these big cities.
I mean, you look at New York, you look at Chicago, these are cities that are just plain corrupt.
And the result is they're dominated by big government socialists who have radical values, who favor the criminal over the innocent.
They favor basically organized crime over the police.
And somehow, and this is where people like Sharpton just frankly mystify me, saving innocent people from being killed, saving innocent people from being raped or mugged.
It strikes me the bias ought to be in favor of the innocent, not the criminal.
And yet you find some of these people who just can't help themselves in their commitment to weakening society.
You have people like Mondami, the big government socialist in New York, running for mayor, saying basically he would replace the police with pacification people who would come by and would be helpful.
They'd be helpful in a positive, friendly way.
Well, you start dealing with these criminals, pacification people are just going to get killed.
They're not going to pacify anybody.
And you have things like no bond laws which allow people to go right back on the street, which is really a reversion to the world that made Clint Eastward in the 1970s, where it would take you longer to fill out the paperwork than they'd actually be in jail.
And I think that this whole model on the left has been extraordinarily destructive.
And what the president's doing is exactly right.
Well, I got to tell you something.
I agree.
The pushback is bewildering to me because the idea is to keep people alive.
It's not about power.
It's about safety.
It's about security.
And honestly, you would think you would welcome more of a police presence, especially from the party that is so against violence and insurrection, although they did vote for a vice president that when we had 574 riots that killed two dozen Americans, injured thousands of cops, and caused billions in property damage, did go on with Stephen Colbert and say the rioters won't stop, shouldn't stop, and we're not going to stop supporting them.
Let me ask you on the issue because now all of these blue state leaders, or if you want to call them leaders, you have Kathy Hochl and J.B. Pritzker and Gavin Newsom and others.
They're up in arms over the issue of Texas redrawing their congressional districts.
The only problem is in every one of these states, we find that gerrymandering has been mastered by the Democratic Party.
Now Republicans are just doing what Democrats have successfully done, the model that they have mastered.
And now they're all up in arms.
And they say they're going to fight fire with fire.
There's no more gerrymandering left to do.
I don't think they can do much.
Look, I loved the governor of Massachusetts because apparently nobody had told her that there are no Republicans you can gerrymander.
I mean, as you point out, there are literally no Republicans in the House in Massachusetts.
So she can't fight fire with fire.
She is the fire.
I mean, they've already cheated.
And ironically, as you probably know, the term gerrymander occurred in 1812 in Massachusetts when the Federalists who were desperately trying to survive and ultimately failed, the rise of the Jeffersonians, the Federalists in Massachusetts wrote this map, and one district guy said, gee, that looks like a salamander.
And another guy said, no, no, that's a gerrymander because it was Eldritch Jerry who'd drawn the map.
So gerrymanders go all the way back to Massachusetts in 1812.
And I think it's ironic, as you point out, Illinois is probably the worst offender.
And California is bad.
Massachusetts is bad.
New York is bad.
All of these states have worked overtime to rig the game.
And the fact is that this is a fight that is important.
I mean, I'm not quite sure how the Texas, because they do have to get the Democrats back to have a quorum.
So I'm not quite sure how they're going to pull that off.
But what Governor Abbott's trying to do in Texas, for one thing, probably almost guarantees that the Republicans will retain control of the House in 2026.
Well, I hope so, because I think otherwise we're going to face nothing but two years of never-ending nonstop impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, and all progress for the country is going to come to a screeching halt.
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So I will be headed later this week to the great state of Alaska.
Interestingly for me, the only state I've never been to.
And I'm obsessed with Alaska.
The fact that I haven't been there is unconscionable, but I'm just obsessed with the rugged individualism.
I'm obsessed with Life Below Zero, the TV show, and Deadliest Catch, another TV show about crabbing in the Bering Sea.
So I'm kind of excited to go there, but there's a bigger issue in play here, and that is the Trump-Putin summit.
I would put the odds at about 25% that Trump is going to have to pull a Reagan and say net and walk away from the table because Putin has shown no willingness to show any compromise.
And the sad thing is, this is Joe Biden.
This, to me, is Biden's war.
This happened on his watch.
Biden watched the troops and the military equipment being moved to the Ukrainian border and when asked about it, said, well, what are you going to do?
And he said, well, it depends if it's a minor incursion or not.
And I thought that was a horrible answer.
So Putin was able to build up his military.
It was obvious he was going in.
Crimea was annexed under Obama and Biden.
So, and right now, I mean, let's be very frank about it.
Europe has not stepped up.
Now Trump is selling weapons to the Ukrainians.
They have fought valiantly.
I do believe Putin's a murdering dictator thug, but there really is no good answer for Ukraine at this point that I see thoughts.
I don't know.
I mean, first of all, I think the odds of Trump not getting a deal this week are probably more like 70 to 80 percent.
Putin still is not convinced that he can't win.
And he thinks he can hang tough, lie to Trump, and continue to try to fight.
He's trying to offer a totally one-sided truce in terms of aerial power, which tells me that the Ukrainian long-range use of drones is beginning to really impact the Russian defense system.
And I actually think that the combination of American capabilities and European capabilities, we are very likely to wear down the Russians, not to force them into a decisive defeat, which would be very dangerous because they do have 6,000 nuclear weapons, but to force them into a recognition that they can't claim territory.
I mean, the real question here is going to be, does Putin get to claim a victory by keeping land while not allowing the Ukrainians to keep the land they've occupied?
Because the Ukrainians deliberately set out to occupy a piece of Russia to have a bargaining chip.
Well, I mean, if we agree to a totally one-sided deal where Putin gets to keep what he stole, but Zelensky has to give back the area that they've occupied, first of all, I don't think Zelensky will agree.
I think he and the Europeans will say to help.
The problem is, I don't see a scenario where Zelensky can win this war.
I don't think Europe has the commitment to back them.
They have proven me to be right heretofore.
And I like that President Trump's now putting sanctions on him.
I like the fact that he's selling weaponry so they can continue to fight valiantly.
I concede up front that Putin's a murdering dictator thug.
I just don't see a deal that would emerge that's not going to include land handed over.
The issue for Ukraine, to me, what the negotiated settlement has to be about is security and long-term security.
Sure, but other since Russia also will not allow European troops to be on the border, you have to ask yourself, how do you get security?
I mean, well, first of all, it was Bill Clinton that took away Ukraine's nuclear weapons.
That was stupid on their part.
But looking back through the prism of history, now the question is, can they build up enough military might that if another invasion occurs, that they have enough of a deterrent to stop them.
And well, I think that's largely a function of our willingness to give them advanced weapons or to sell them advanced weapons.
I mean, look, you and I probably disagree in that.
I think if the United States wanted to, we could supply Ukraine with enough very advanced weapons that they would cost the Russians an enormous amount.
And if you combine that with Trump's proposed sanctions, you really can begin to put a vice on Putin.
And I guess, Sean, part of what I mean, and I'll be curious to see how Trump deals with this, because I believe you never go into a negotiation from a position of fear.
Oh, well, Donald Trump doesn't have fear, so that's not going to be a problem.
Right.
Well, my point is, you walk in and Putin says something outrageous, you comfortably get up and walk out, which is what he did, remember, to Kim Jong-un in, I think.
I can absolutely see that unfolding on Friday.
Right.
And just say, you know, call when you're serious.
And I think, second, Trump should not accept any agreement Friday or this weekend, even if he should say that if it is a decent offer, he should say that's a very useful offer.
Let's meet next week and get Zelensky in, and let's the three of us talk it through.
But I think it's very important.
Look, Ukrainians have for four years been the victims of a vicious, deliberate campaign which targeted civilians, killed innocent people, killed children, and I don't think we should impose on them.
I think we ought to say, you know, Putin has made an interesting proposal.
Let's get the three of us together.
Let's talk it through.
According to J.D. Vance, I mean, Zelensky may actually be in Alaska.
We'll find out.
Well, I think that it would be very cool if Trump said, oh, by the way, I brought my good friend here.
Zelensky walked in the room.
We'll see at that point if Putin would get up and walk out.
Listen, I'm with you.
The country does not have an appetite for a forever war or a proxy war, which is the situation that Joe Biden created.
I mean, we were providing all the weaponry, hundreds of hundreds of billions of dollars, and we can't be in that position either.
I mean, it's very nuanced, very, very difficult, and with threading a needle.
And however, peace in Europe would be a good thing, and the effort is certainly worth it.
But, you know, we'll find out what happens.
Mr. Speaker, we wish you were going to be there.
It'd be a lot of fun to see you.
Thank you for being with us.
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So there's a lot to get to involving the legality, if you will, as it relates to Donald Trump National Guard.
And I want to be very clear up front because the corrupt state-run legacy media mob is flat out doing what they always do, and that's lying to you.
The president invoked what's called Section 740 of the District of Columbia Home Rule Act, which would place the city's Metropolitan Police Department under direct federal control.
The president also will put National Guard troops in place in an effort to combat crime.
I went through these numbers yesterday.
If you look at the homicide rate, capital cities around the world, by far, Washington, D.C. is the worst, 41 per 100,000 people.
The next closest would be Uruguay, 16.1 per 100,000 people.
Baghdad is, you know, more than almost three times safer than Washington, D.C., 15.2 per 100,000 in terms of their homicide rate.
Again, D.C.'s 41 per 100,000.
Panama City, Panama, 14.3.
Brazil, 13.
Costa Rica, 13.
Bogota, Colombia, 11.
Bolivia, 10.7.
Mexico City, Mexico, 8.
Lima, Peru, 7.
Ethiopia, 6.
Buenos Aires, Argentina, 5.5.
Estonia, Kenya, Havana, Cuba is 4 per 100,000.
Washington, D.C., a whopping 41.
I mean, and what's really spectacular about this, when you listen to the left-wing media, they have been pushing a talking point.
And when I heard it, I said, well, that can't possibly be right.
And my gut was right.
Based on the Washington Free Beacon today, they have an article out that says, is D.C. crime at a 30-year low?
Mainstream media outlets cite police data to say, yes, without noting, oh, you mean there's context and texture and information that I'm providing.
Oh, what a shock.
No wonder why the state-run legacy media mob is officially dead.
Without noting that a commander is currently on leave for allegedly falsifying the data.
The D.C. fraternal order of police chairman said in July that the Metropolitan Police leaders have been pressuring officers to falsify data, artificially deflate crime statistics.
And Politico reported Monday that crime in Washington has hit a 30-year low last year, despite the president declaring a public safety emergency in the district.
NPR says the same thing.
Oh, the president ordered a federal intervention despite the fact that that violent crime plunged to a 30-year low.
It goes on and on.
But every one of these publications base their stories on data collected by the Metropolitan Police Department, which the Biden administration touted just before leaving office.
Total crime, violent crime for 2024, the District of Columbia is down 35% from 2023, the lowest it's been in 30 years.
Then the Metropolitan Police Department in July suspended a police commander for allegedly manipulating crime numbers in his reports, according to the D.C. Fraternal Order of Police Chairman, who told MBC4 in Washington, D.C. that officials often pressure officers to falsify statistics in order to make the city seem faster.
With that knowledge that, of course, the mainstream media is selectively not telling their audiences, which, by the way, shouldn't shock anybody.
We welcome to the program.
Fox News legal analyst, New York Times best-selling author, Greg Jarrett, stays with us.
And William Jacobson, Cornell law professor.
All right.
So let's talk about, first of all, the manipulation of numbers.
Let's talk about the comparisons.
Greg Jarrett will start with you and the legality of what President Trump is doing here and the way the media has covered it.
And, you know, we have the worst capital city in terms of the homicide rate in the entire world.
And why would the left in this country be so adamant against protecting innocent people?
They're protecting themselves.
Look, the Capitol is run by far-left politicians, city council, the mayor.
So they cook the books to try to fool you into thinking, oh, everything's fine and dandy in Washington, D.C. Anybody who has spent time there knows that is absolutely untrue.
And, you know, the worst of it is the carjackings.
You know, more than half of those are committed by minors.
60% are 15 and 16 years old, as young as 12.
Guns are involved 72% of the time.
And, you know, local authorities refuse to prosecute them as adults.
So no wonder there have been more than 1,000 carjackings in the last three years, some of which include terrible beatings and shootings.
A congressman carjacked at gunpoint.
An FBI agent carjacked.
But, you know, the local prosecutor there, he's called the D.C. Attorney General.
He dismisses it all by saying, and I'm quoting here, kids are kids, as if it's okay.
It's not okay.
The solution is simple.
D.C. is basically a ward of the federal government.
That gives the president ample authority to do what he's doing.
Under the Home Rule Act, he can seize control of the Metropolitan Police Department on an emergency basis.
For a more sustained takeover, he would need the permission of Congress.
But I suspect he'd get it because those people live in fear working at the nation's capital.
You know, this is not the only place.
Now, I'll give you the full quote, Bill Jacobson, and welcome back to the program.
Good to have you back.
The D.C. police union chief said, quote, to evade public scrutiny, Metropolitan Police Department leadership is deliberately falsifying crime data, creating the false narrative of reduced crime while communities are suffering.
D.C. is not the only large democratic-run city where major crimes are being underreported.
If you go back to Chicago Magazine a few years back, Chicago Magazine found dozens of crimes, including serious felonies, robberies, burglaries, assaults, and even worse than that, classified or downgraded to risk-slap offenses or made to vanish altogether.
In New York City, we had an NYPD transit commander accused of, quote, faking New York City subway crime statistics.
So this seems to be the general practice is to put your head in the sand and lie.
A D.C. councilman who's been charged with taking bribes doesn't like Trump's anti-crime crackdown.
That's not a big surprise.
And one ABC news anchor revealed that she was mugged in D.C. by a half-naked vagrant, Kyra Phillips.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
Why wouldn't they want law and order?
Why wouldn't they want safety and security?
Why wouldn't you want a stronger police presence if you have the number one, it's the number one capital of any country in terms of the homicide rate worldwide.
Why would you not want to protect innocent people?
Well, you know, I think it's a political outlook.
It's something, you know, Democrat Socialists of America, it's that sort of outlook.
It's, you know, Soros-backed district attorneys, an outlook that views cracking down on crime as somehow an offense, not the offense on which you're cracking down.
So that's really the issue.
It's a political outlet, outlook.
It's all motivated by that.
Of course, there's also a twinge to it nowadays of Trump derangement syndrome, but it's baffling.
Why would Democrats not want people protected in a Democrat city?
It makes no sense.
So it's got to be ideological.
They just do not like law enforcement, and they would rather have people get mugged and carjacked than cracked down.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back more with Greg Jarrett, William Jacobson, Cornell Law Professor on the other side.
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The president now saying that enough is enough in Washington, D.C., and it may be coming to a high crime city near you.
And we continue talking about the issue involving Washington, D.C. and the president's announcement yesterday.
You heard Janine Pirro yesterday, Greg Jarrett, talk about these young punks.
They're 14, 15, 16, even as high as 17 years old.
And she cannot charge them with murder if they shoot somebody or attempted murder.
And then, you know, she talked about a case where a young kid, you know, tries to kill somebody, goes before a judge, gets sentenced, and gets a lecture about released on, I guess, their own recognizance and told that they need to go to college.
How does that keep anybody safe?
And what happens when these people go out and attack other innocent people?
Well, what the politicians in local government and the capitals are doing is incentivizing criminality.
And the solution is so simple and obvious.
When minors act as adults by committing serious violent crimes, they need to be treated as adults.
And that means lowering the age for prosecution.
Currently, under D.C. law, 15-year-olds can only be prosecuted with a judge's permission.
And that almost never occurs, mostly because the local prosecutor, the D.C. Attorney General, refuses to pursue those cases.
Even 16 and 17-year-olds are seldom charged as adults.
So, you know, the D.C. City Council will never change the laws because they're notoriously soft on crime.
So, you know, the only recourse is for the president to step in and Congress.
And as I say, you know, D.C. is a ward of the federal government, answerable to the federal government itself, mostly to Congress, but the president as well.
And he can order National Guard troops in there.
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals already ruled.
He had the authority to federalize California's National Guard troops in L.A.
He can do the same thing in New York, in Chicago.
He can do it in Washington, D.C.
Well, pretty amazing.
But, you know, we also learned a lot, I think, William Jacobson, when we watched the joint session speech of President Trump.
And in that speech, the president recognized the family of Lake and Riley.
In that speech, the president recognized the mother of Jocelyn Nungari, that little 12-year-old girl that was brutally raped and murdered in Texas, in Houston.
And not one Democrat would even applaud or stand up or recognize these mothers that lost their children because of unvetted Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Alejandro Mayorkas, illegal immigrants that they allowed into the country.
Meanwhile, they were telling us for four years the border was closed and the border was secure.
I say they have blood on their hands.
Well, I think that the border security, which is tightly correlated to crime in the cities, I think that's such a winning issue for Republicans.
You know, there's overwhelming popular support, including among many Democrats, if not most Democrats, who do not want open borders and do not want crime in their cities.
So it's a total winning issue.
And I think it was one of the issues that propelled Trump to victory.
There were many issues, but that was one of them.
I mean, people do not want Venezuelan crime gangs, you know, taking over apartment buildings in our cities.
They do not want the gangs running, you know, sections of town.
And so it's a total winning issue.
It's really baffling how the Democrats have become so ideologically driven that they will get on the wrong side of an 80-20 issue every time.
And they think that just by yelling about Trump, they're going to win with that.
But I think it's a total winning Republican issue.
I hope they don't let up.
I hope they continue the law enforcement push.
I do agree that it's very likely we're going to see the National Guard being called out in other cities, maybe New York also, if Mandami wins.
And it's something that Trump, it's a winning issue for Trump because people want safety above everything else.
You agree with that, Greg Jarrett?
We'll give you the last word.
Bill is totally right on that subject.
It used to be that Democrats cared about law and order.
I mean, it was Joe Biden in the U.S. Senate that beefed up penalties for crimes.
And Democrats have done a total 180.
And how they came to that, I really find mystifying.
Bill Jacobson, thank you.
Greg Jarrett, we always appreciate you being with us.
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