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Aug. 14, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Trump vs. Putin - August 13th, Hour 2
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Mr. O'Reilly, sir, I'm headed to Alaska.
I've been to 49 out of the 50 states.
The state that I've been most obsessed with is the state of Alaska.
And after the trip that I will be will be broadcasting from Alaska tomorrow and on Friday, and we'll have the first interview of President Trump post the Putin summit.
Um, but I'm obsessed with shows like Light Below Zero, Deadliest Catch.
Do you like those shows?
I love those shows.
Uh I don't have a lot of time to watch those shows, Hannity.
I'm I'm too busy thinking.
But you're too busy.
Okay, well you really have never seen the show Deadliest Catch.
It's amazing.
I've been to Alaska three times.
Watch out for bears.
That's number one.
They just pop up.
And here's a when you get there, fall will be underway.
So you'll get some foliage.
Uh and if you have time, I know you're gonna be very busy, but it's worth uh a quick trip out to Denali to Mount McKinley just to take a look.
Um but anyway, Alaska is a fabric state.
Bill, do you uh I'm I'm broadcasting, I'm doing radio and TV, and you think I'm gonna have time to go on a sightseeing tour?
Um, but let's move on to the bigger issue here.
Uh I want to get to uh in a second how you will define success.
Um, because I don't think there is any issue of success or failure for President Trump, and I'll explain that too in a second.
But I love the fact that unlike most politicians, where they wring their hands and they have their political advisors and they're calculating the upside and the downside before they they dare do anything big.
Uh, President Trump just dives right in, and he's not thinking about the consequences of the outcome.
You and I both know him, we know this man really well.
And if this summit isn't going well, he said he'd know in two minutes if he thinks he can get a deal.
And also warned that Russia will face very severe consequences if Putin continues the Ukrainian war after this summit.
But here's a guy, and he's only been back in the second term, India, Pakistan, Israel, Iran, Rwanda to Congo, Serbia, Kosovo, Thailand, Cambodia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Egypt, Ethiopia, Ethiopia, and He put himself in the middle of all of those peace deals.
And you gotta give the guy credit for trying and putting himself out there.
Most politicians won't do that.
Okay, a number of things.
Well, you agree with that, right?
I mean, what what other politician won't wring their hands, ask their advisors?
He just dives in.
He doesn't care.
What I wrote today in the message of the day on Bill O'Reilly.com is he's the artist working president in modern times.
Um and there's no doubt about that.
But I know a couple of things about this uh Alaska chat.
So number one, you can't threaten Putin.
And Trump knows that.
You can't go in and say, look, Vlad, if you don't stop murdering women and children, we're gonna break your economy.
He can't put it that way.
All right.
What you have to do is number one, say, do you think we can reach some common ground here?
And let Putin then spell out before Trump spells out.
Putin goes first.
What he believes is possible.
Okay, this is what I will do or I could do.
And remember, Putin lives in a bubble.
He's not uh in a country or a sphere that has any freedom at all.
He has no dissent, he has no press that's gonna backbite him, there's none of that.
He just lives isolated and he does what he wants.
But at this point, he knows that he is embarrassed President Trump.
Putin has embarrassed Trump because Trump gave him so much benefit of the doubt when he came into office in January.
Now, that is the key to Putin's reality check.
You put the most important thing for Donald Trump in his life is his presidential legacy.
And that means he wants to accomplish things to help the country.
If he goes to a meeting and Putin embarrasses him, boy, oh boy, it's gonna be bad for Putin.
I'll tell you what, it's gonna really be bad.
And I know that for a fact.
But you can't say that to the man.
These are very delicate negotiations, and I expect that Putin and Trump will go into a room alone.
I think you know this, but when uh Trump is with Putin, Putin speaks English.
He Putin doesn't speak English in public, but he does speak English to Trump.
And I think there will be that a room encounter, and it's he's gonna go, look.
Uh we gotta stop this.
And uh you are have to cooperate in this.
We're not gonna try to embarrass you.
That's important for Putin, but you're not gonna embarrass us.
And so it's up to you.
You're the only guy who can stop it.
And that's true.
Putin is the only man who can stop this slaughter.
So I don't think there's any risk for Trump going into this, and let me tell you why.
Going into the summit, the president has done three very critical things that have that I think brought Putin to the table finally.
He tried the nice route, and it's not his fault that Putin has no problem, no conscience, and no soul, and he's willing to kill innocent men, women, and children.
Uh, this is Joe Biden's war.
President Trump's trying to clean up his mess.
So let's let's let's lay that foundation.
Well, what the president very cleverly has done, he put a 50% tariff on India if they import any Russian oil.
Now uh for the whole economy of Russia, it is based on energy.
He also made a trade deal with the European Union, and the the way that Putin has been able to fund his war machine is again selling energy to Western Europe.
And as part of that deal, Western Europe now is gonna spend about a trillion dollars buying our energy, not Putin's energy.
That got his attention.
Also, President Trump said, okay, you're not stopping, you won't stop.
Now he's giving Ukraine an opportunity to buy our weapons.
Unlike Joe Biden, he's not giving Ukraine our weapons.
He doesn't believe in in no for he believes in no forever wars.
Those three things to me got Putin's attention because now the funding of his war machine is in jeopardy.
And I think in terms of the the question is going to be whether or not Putin is territorial Demands are so excessive that there's no opportunity to be a deal, or if he's unwilling to give Ukraine the ability to defend itself in the future from a possible third invasion by Vladimir.
That's my take.
Well, I disagree with you that there isn't a downside for Trump.
is.
If he comes back and Putin, because you can't control what Putin's going to say, and goes back to Moscow and starts to diminish Trump, which I don't think is going to happen, but it's possible, and starts to strut around going, hey, he's not going to tell me what to do.
That'll hurt Trump.
So Trump's got to have plan B in his pocket very specifically.
Now you left out a very important equation here, and that's China.
China, I believe, is talking back channels to President Trump.
I know that to be true.
And that's why there is an extension.
The tariffs that were supposed to kick in today did not kick in.
All right, he gave China 90 more days.
And there'll be a deal with China before that time.
But China can wreck Vladimir Putin, can destroy him.
And I think, but I can't say for sure, that Trump has already negotiated a Putin factor with Beijing.
He's going to drop that at some point privately to Vlad.
Because China's future Is that how you refer to Vladimir and your buddy Vlad?
Is that you call him Vlad?
Are you on a first name basis with him?
Well, he should fear me.
You I hope you read the chapter in confronting evil that comes out September 9th because the whole world's going to know what this guy's all about.
He's he's he's been KGB evil his entire life.
Yeah, but people don't know the extent of it, and they don't know why, and they don't know how he thinks.
I do.
And but I know that Vlad is a chess player.
And he's got to know that Beijing and Trump are talking.
And they're talking about him.
That is the most important thing, and that will not be made public.
You can ask Trump about it, but I don't think he's going to give you very much on it.
There's a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that nobody ever knows about in a situation like this, Bill.
There's no doubt about it.
Um you say there's there's a huge downside.
The only huge downside will be the chatter of the punditry class and the legacy media mob that want him to fail.
You know, I just mentioned a lot of success that he's had just in the second term alone.
He played a big role in India and Pakistan reaching a peace.
He played a big role in Israel and Iran stopping their conflict in 12 days.
He played a big role in Rwanda and the Congo, Serbia, Kosovo, Thailand, Cambodia, Armenia, Azerbaijan.
Now, if you want to talk about the ability to embarrass people, uh Donald Trump can stand up in two minutes after that summit starts and say, you know, basically F you lad, your buddy, and walk out of that room and say, you can't do a deal with him.
He wants to be Hitler, and if he wants to be Hitler, we're gonna arm the Ukrainians and we're gonna arm Western Europe.
And if it's game on, I don't care what he does anymore.
So he has power also.
They both have power going into this.
It's in everyone's best interest.
I don't think either one are going to you know, saber rattle to that level.
They both have new they're both nuclear powers.
They don't want to go there.
That gives that gives Vladimir strength.
The dumbest thing Ukraine ever did was under Bill Clinton give up their nuclear weapons, in my view.
There's not none of this would have happened.
So regardless, I don't see the downside the way you do, except for the chatter among the punditry class and the legacy media.
However, whatever happens on Friday, it either goes great or it's eh not so great, or it's gonna be laying the foundation for the future because eventually I think we get there.
Okay.
I mean, I'm not gonna dispute eventually because that's likely to happen.
But the downside for Trump is that he's gonna have to articulate for Europe and for Ukraine and for China exactly what happened in this meeting.
It yes, you're right.
So how so how would you define success?
Because the president even said, and he had a meeting today with Western Europe leaders, NATO leaders, and Ukraine.
How would you because I know how this deal is going to go down?
Ukraine is going to have to cede land, especially like the Donbass region.
It was 70, 80% Russian national anyway.
Land will be swapped, and what Ukraine needs and wants the most is going to be security guarantees.
The best way to achieve that is for the U.S. to continue to sell them weapons and the Western Europeans to do as well, and to also reinforce their their armies in inside of Ukraine to prevent a future attack.
That's the ha that's how I would define a deal.
Okay.
So the definition of success is there's a ceasefire for 30 days.
And then there's at the end of that period of time, there's another meeting.
And uh Ukraine is in that meeting along with representatives from the EU and Vlad, bad, evil Vlad.
He's back.
But for 30- I don't I don't think you the two can be in a room together.
I don't.
All right.
Well, you whatever they can work out, one's in one room, the other's in the other room, that's fine with me.
But ceasefire for 30 days gives President Trump a big win.
Saves thousands of lives as well.
Okay.
I think that's doable.
Um but you have to understand that, and this is really uh now I'm gonna go off the topic a little bit, but it it I did you see me take apart John Bolton the other night?
Did you see that?
I did not see it, but I'm glad you did because John Bolton's an idiot.
Okay, you need to watch that.
Okay, I took him apart.
Um, and then I said, You got a beef with me, you come right on and you face me.
Of course he can't.
Did he attack he attacked you?
No, he tracked Trump.
He's under he's undermining he's got Trump demand derangement syndrome.
He's he's he's lost it.
He's not but but he's there's an important story here.
It's not just him.
It's corporations like Comcast that are undermining the security of the United States.
It's not opinion anymore.
It's not left-wing right wing anymore.
Comcast, one of the most powerful companies in this country, is undermining American and world security.
That's what they're doing.
And it's clear that they're doing it because they hate Trump.
How are they doing it?
But we only have 15 seconds.
We'll make it quick.
MSNBC is a now pro propaganda.
Anything Trump does is bad.
Everything and anything is bad.
Well, you're just figuring this out.
We've known this forever.
No, but it's at the highest level now.
You're talking about it.
Oh, it's yeah, yeah, they they've absolutely lost it.
Listen, I I do pray for peace for the sake of the world.
I don't want to see more child pictures of dead children.
I've seen them.
Um I hope we get there.
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Hi.
Yeah, hi, John.
God bless you for uh what you do for the country.
Um you're awesome.
Well in the world, show.
Uh, thank you.
I'm I'm honored to do it.
I'm glad you called.
Uh love our friends in San Diego also.
Just sorry you have to pay all the taxes you're paying.
Indeed, indeed.
So I just wanted to uh touch on um you know uh the Putin summit on Friday.
Um I'm just hoping that somebody is aware that uh, you know, and they're they're making that differentiation between Putin the president and Putin the judoka.
I mean, he's the third highest ranked judo exponent in the world, and as a result, the ideology might I think um yeah, the psyche is totally different.
And I'm just hoping there's somebody on our side that's looking at that.
Um, because yeah, yeah, it's it's gonna be a bad outcome unless they fully understand how a judoka manipulates their opponent's massive momentum against them, like they do not.
No, I I I think uh that there's no doubt Donald Trump knows exactly who he's dealing with.
He will get a full if he has I'm sure he's already had it.
He has a full rundown of of an assessment of who Vladimir Putin is.
You know, look, I'll say what he won't say because he's he's trying to achieve something here.
And if he were to follow in the Biden path and call him every name in the book, then he's not going to get the guy to sit down and at least discuss the possibility of a ceasefire slash eventual peace.
There's not going to be any perfect solution.
I blame Biden for all of it.
I blame Obama for all of it.
But with that said, it doesn't mean that he shouldn't try.
Now I do an eclectic blend of of mixed martial arts.
I am not by any stretch of the imagination a mixed martial artist.
I don't consider myself one.
I have skill.
I have a lot of skill.
I've been training for 15 years, but it's a blend of Krav Maga, Kempo, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, situational street fighting, boxing, sticks, blades, firearms, et cetera, and I do a lot of core building, and I do lift, I don't lift heavy, heavy weights.
I did for a while.
I don't do that anymore.
but a lot of push-ups, sit-ups, a lot of, you know, try to stay in shape the best I can.
Hey, John, you know, those days are long gone for me, but I do keep my head to the ground in the Judoka community and at a very high level.
And let's just put it this way.
It It was absolutely no surprise.
It was actually predicted.
Um, you know, days before the the uh Trump and Putin meeting, and this is on both of them, that there would be an almost immediate escalation, and they absolutely doubt it.
Now, this is the third one.
What's interesting and what's kind of um puzzle that is why Putin agreed to uh you know meet on um you know American soil.
But uh, you know, I I know the backstory.
I don't think uh I think it was given to me off the record.
There were other sites that were mentioned, and then Alaska came up out of the blue, he agreed to it.
Here we go, we're off to Anchorage.
And it's better than a couple of the other locations that were mentioned, I'll put it that way.
Um, but what is it about Judo and the level of skill that he has that you think Trump needs to be dialed into?
Explain it.
Well, it's the again, it's the whole ideology of mass and momentum, so it's such a calculated.
Um I think Bill Like Riley touched on this when he mentioned the game of chess, because the game of chess and you know, high-level uh judo is there's a lot of similarities.
But I believe that everything is already in play, you know.
Um Putin fully out understands the outcome.
Now why he's making those escalation, you know, decisions, you know, globally is is beyond me.
But uh, you know, in the I can tell you why he's saber rattling in the lead up to it saying I can keep this going as long as I want.
There's a reason that Trump this week put a 50% tariff on India if they import Russian oil.
There's a reason that Trump made as part of the European trade deal a billion, you know, uh uh uh a trillion dollars in energy that they're gonna be buying for us.
Uh there's a reason that President Trump has said we're gonna sell all the weapons that Ukraine wants.
All of this is posturing on both sides leading up to this.
Yes, and that's uh obviously where my concern is because um you know we we saw two escalations, you know, conventionally.
Um they I don't think Putin's got much more than that in the conventional uh realm.
Um but you know, the judoka community, and they were right on the last two times, they're very fearful that this might be you know the uh third escalation to the to the unthinkable.
So um, yeah, I'm just hoping that uh, you know, whoever's there on Friday fully understand the mind of the judoka, how they think um, you know, very few people win against them, so um, you know, but then never underestimate Trump.
He's uh you know, he's certainly a unique uh man that's done everything.
When you really think about it, Trump has the least to lose in this whole summit.
Europe has a lot to lose, Ukraine has a lot to lose.
Trump, you know, as far as he's concerned, the only thing he's risking here is political capital, and but he's doing it because it's it defines who he is.
But he really does it.
The only the only thing that's gonna happen, worst case scenario, all right.
Let's let's say Putin tries to embarrass him on the World stage.
Trump will come back twice as hard, ten times as hard and embarrass him.
And Trump will load up Ukraine with more weapons than they've ever had in their life.
And they're going to pay for them.
He doesn't want that.
I don't want that.
If Putin has any sense, I mean, he's their economy is terri in shambles.
And they're they've they've they've won a certain amount of territory, most of which what they really said they wanted in the beginning.
He probably will end up with a territorial swap on a lot of that.
And hopefully the Ukrainians will get what they need, which is assurances and an ability to defend themselves to prevent a third invasion.
I mean, so but Europe has the most to lose here.
Ukraine has the most to lose here.
Why isn't well why aren't any of these Western European countries, why aren't they risking their political capital?
Um Europe hasn't stepped up to help Ukraine anywhere near the level that they should.
And it's Trump that now is has caused them to contribute more than double what they were contributing to NATO for their own national security.
And he's it's Trump that's building out the next generation of weaponry.
I think that there's uh it's a moment in time where you hope that common sense prevails and maybe Putin has paid a big enough price.
Maybe Putin sees that the funding of his war machine will come to a screeching halt.
This is where Donald Trump has a card.
That's why I'm not worried about the media or Democrats in the short term saying Donald Trump failed.
And I think in the long term it works out.
But I can't guarantee the short term.
I can't honestly I can't wait till Friday.
Can't wait to talk to the president.
I'll sit down with him immediately after the summit ends, and uh I'm looking forward to uh having that conversation.
We'll air it on Fox.
Um anyway, my uh I hope it all works out.
But you do raise good points.
There there is a there is a martial artist mindset that does lead to mental toughness and mental strength.
And you know, for example, you have to have a certain mindset to do what I've been doing for 15 years, which is sit there on pain day and get the living crap beat out of you and allow my sensei to punch me as hard as he can in the stomach until I drop, or to put out your arms and let him pound and uh onto my arms to calcify my arms with the with the thinking that you can't win a fight if you can't take a punch.
Doesn't mean somebody can't knock you out in one punch.
They can.
You gotta be careful that I have some skill.
Anyway, uh, but you respect your opponent.
That's a big part of it.
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Janet is in the great state of Georgia.
Janet, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Uh, thank you for taking my call.
Yes, I was stationed up in Alaska, and you will absolutely love it.
It's a different world up there.
Uh go see some of it if you can.
Go on the Kenite Peninsula, go fishing at the Russian River, go to Homer and get uh King Crab.
I mean, it's an awesome state.
It really is.
I mean, between you and O'Reilly, I think you guys think I'm gonna have all this spare time to just you know go out and see the sites in Alaska.
I wish I would.
Um I imagine it's gonna be different.
Like a lot of American cities that I've been to, I mean, they're very similar.
I mean, most cities have a McDonald's, most cities have a Burger King, most cities have a Wendy's, most cities have uh a Kentucky fried chicken, most cities have a strip mall, most you know, there's a lot of similarities in a lot of places you go.
There are some differences.
For example, Waffle House and Cracker Barrel in the South, uh on the west coast of the U.S., although it's coming to the to Nashville and and Franklin County in Tennessee, you have In and Out Burger, you have uh, you know, my favorite Crown burger in Utah.
It's certain things about certain cities that stand out, but I gotta imagine.
Am I wrong in thinking Anchorage is gonna be very different?
Anchorage is different.
Uh you know, it has all the normal stuff like the lower forty-eight, but it's a whole different breed of people and town.
It it's really cool.
Go out and talk to the people and see see everything.
Um the sky's gonna be different.
Everything's gonna be different for you.
It's a whole different ball game.
Well, I'm uh I'm excited about going.
I'm obsessed with Alaska and it's the only state I haven't been to.
I've been to all the all the other 49 states.
And I'm and I'm I've been obsessed with it.
You ever watch the show Life Below Zero?
Your do you ever watch Deadliest Catch?
Yes.
Yeah I I've watched those but uh on the Kenite uh peninsula there's the Russian river and it has the salmon fishing and fishermen will be on one side and bears on the other side.
It is so cool to fish on the Russian river.
You know it's a whole different ball game.
I mean there's Homer you can go on the spitz and get a king crab.
And just I mean it it's really cool.
You need to take a vacation up there and see Portage Glacier and I mean you know what I I think I think it's a great idea.
I'd love to take my family and my kids and and I think that I I think it would be just a different life.
This is probably the time of year to go too it's about it's going to be about 63 degrees I I checked the weather yesterday.
Right.
Yeah it's going to be chillier than Florida that's for sure.
But that part is my my blood is definitely thin my tolerance for cold air is not what it used to be.
Yeah you're going to be a little cold just watch out for the mosquitoes and the bugs and stuff because right now in August they they're usually very prevalent up there and you know if you see a moose coming get out of its way I appreciate the advice if I see a moose coming I'm getting out of the way.
Sarah Palin, when she wrote her book, and I think I did the first interview with her, and she tells this story about how she went moose hunting with her dad before school, and her dad, I think, made her, if I remember the story correctly, don't hold me to this, that I think that her dad made her take a bite of the eyeball or something crazy, or take out the eyeball of the moose, I'm not sure.
I don't know.
But yeah yeah are you going to get to see uh President Trump or anybody while you're up there?
As soon as he's the summit is over and they finish I guess he'll probably do a press conference then he's going to sit down with me and we're going to do the first interview with him.
Oh awesome tell him hi and tell him America's behind him and we're behind you too.
appreciate it.
You know what?
He knows it and I will tell him and I give him so much credit, as I've been saying all day, because most politicians are not going to be willing to take the risks that he's taking.
And he is.
I mean, O'Reilly is not wrong in the sense that, yeah, I mean, the media would be unmerciful if if if something good doesn't come out of it.
But that's not the definition of success for me.
And I don't think it would be the definition of him.
But most politicians they'd wring their hands they'd have their advisors they'd talk about all the possible downsides and then probably err on the side of caution and and never even attempt or try and with all the success he's had with peace deals up to this point I think that it's definitely a risk worth taking it's sad to see dead children.
There's not going to be a perfect agreement in this but if the hostilities come to an end and an agreement is eventually made I think that's progress.
Certainly there's no leader on the world stage besides him that could even even attempt this.
So I like that he's doing it.
Yeah I agree with you love our friends in Georgia I live there for four wonderful years.
Thank you.
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