Artificially Intelligent Jobs - August 5th, Hour 2
In this segment, Sean Hannity discusses the impact of artificial intelligence on the economy and the future of jobs with guest Mike Rowe, founder of Mike Rowe Works. They emphasize the importance of skilled trades and work ethic scholarships in training the next generation of workers. They also touch on the challenges faced by blue-collar workers, the significance of authenticity in a world dominated by technology, and the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza. The conversation highlights the need for accountability, moral clarity, and support for organizations like the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews in providing humanitarian assistance. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, uh everybody says, well, AI, the future is going to change dramatically.
Well, the future is now.
It is changing dramatically.
And as a result of artificial intelligence, I can tell you that there are going to be careers and jobs that are simply going to evaporate in our economy.
And that's why it's critical that you think through if you're a young person what profession you might be thinking about going into, because you don't want to be replaced by artificial intelligence.
I spent a lot of time using Grok.
I've learned a lot from it, and you can learn a lot from it.
I urge all of my listeners, if you've not experimented with ChatGPT, with Grok, Gemini, any of these artificial intelligence things, I would spend time with it.
Now, I say this because I read an article and I I spent a lot of time on it maybe about a month and a half ago.
That the next generation of millionaires in America are going to be blue-collar working class people.
That's the one thing that we know AI is not going to replace, although robotics are certainly showing up in a major way.
I saw, for example, a video this week of uh a robot doing a roof on a house and doing it perfectly.
I mean, that would be something you have to pay attention to.
There's a new article out today.
Gen Z is ditching college and taking up secure trade jobs, but new data shows office administration jobs are still safer, more stable, and less deadly.
Um with that said, the one person that has been maybe the biggest advocate of the trades is our good friend Mike Rowe.
Um love Mike Rowe.
He's he's a great broadcaster, good friend.
Uh he's with Mike Rowe works, and uh anyway, we appreciate that's his foundation.
I still never I donated 25 grand, but I never got my my autographed I never got my autographed poster from all the captains of Deadliest Catch.
And uh I'm waiting for it.
I'm sure it'll come any day in the mail now.
How are you?
I'm just saving it up for a special, a super special.
You got the check and you cashed it, so that's all I know.
Well, let me tell you what I did with the money and a bunch of other money that came in from people who like you uh lived a balanced life and like you believe that prosperity can still be achieved by learning a skill that's in demand and working your butt off.
I put it in a pile and I awarded 526 work ethics scholarships this year.
That's comes out to five million fifty thousand dollars.
That money goes out later this week to help train the next generation of skilled workers because the articles you mentioned are rooted in fact, undeniable, incontrovertible fact.
And it's too early for a victory lap, but for 17 years at MicroWorks, we've been saying that the chickens will come home to roost.
Uh, and they're gonna look a lot like carpenters and plumbers and steam fitters and pipe fitters and HVAC professionals and collision repair and welders and so forth.
And so it is uh it's somewhat gratifying.
Uh and and a little scary.
You know, I thought your summation there was pretty balanced.
I don't have a crystal ball either, and long term, who knows?
But short term, I think you're right on the money.
The next generation to hit it out of the park is gonna be a generation possessed of skill.
So in my 10 years that I worked in construction, I did everything from framing and roofing, and then I learned how to paint, and I I started my own painting company.
Then I learned how to hang wallpaper, and then I then I learned how to lay tile.
Uh I didn't like falling three stories off a roof.
I didn't particularly love heights.
It was not my favorite thing, especially after falling.
Um I'm frankly lucky I was alive.
Uh, because I went down head first.
It was a slippery day.
It was in Rhode Island and it was the last nail of the day.
It was a hell storm.
We were trying to put tar paper on the roof before we left.
And my feet gave out.
I swung at a two at the sec two and a half story dormer with my hammer.
I missed it.
Now I'm going down head first.
I dislocated my elbow, broke my radio head, busted up my teeth.
After all my years playing hockey, I didn't lose a tooth.
Now I lost them all.
And I'm kind of felt feel lucky that I'm alive in many ways.
However, when I learned to do finish work, when I would paint a room or hang paper or lay tile, and I was I had really had a good eye for finish work because I I just I I really wanted to do a good job.
Um I had a I had a sense of personal satisfaction at the end of every day that I can't even really describe to people.
No, you can't.
Um part of what Dirty Jobs did, and you know, I was I'm particularly proud of it because it's very difficult, you know, you're in TV.
Uh TV is careful, it's produced.
You hire actors, you create scripts, you rehearse.
Dirty jobs, we never did a second take.
We only used real people, and we would show up with our cameras and we would go on a roof like the one you described.
And we witnessed some accidents like the ones you described.
And I'm not here to sugarcoat it.
You know, the world is filled with risk, and the skilled trades are not for everyone.
Peep some people just aren't cut out for it.
That's why our scholarship program is is called a work ethic program.
Uh the world's a dangerous place, and the skilled trades uh are near the tip of that spear.
But having said all that, your last point is the most important point.
There's so much meaning.
There's so much purpose, there's so much satisfaction.
I mean, we did three hundred and fifty dirty jobs, and you know, uh people still ask me to this day, what did that cohort know?
What did that group of people know that most of us have forgotten?
And the big part of that answer is the simple satisfaction that comes from always knowing how you're doing along the course of your work.
And these are the intangible things.
It's kind of like a soft skill, right?
You can't you can't really teach people appreciation.
You can't really teach them work ethic.
These are things you choose to have or not.
And um I spend a lot of my time, as you know, with the foundation, it's not just a scholarship fund or a PR campaign for hard work.
It's an honest attempt to get people who aren't in the trades, not necessarily into them, although that's clearly something we need to do, it's only a matter of national security, but just to foster a sense of appreciation, a little bit of wonder for the fact that when you flick the switch, the lights come on, and that's a hell of a thing.
And when you flush the toilet, the mess goes away, and that's a modern miracle.
And if we don't have an honest appreciation, I'm talking about the three hundred million or so people who share my addiction to smooth roads and and indoor plumbing and affordable electricity.
If we're not blown away by the miracle of it and by the people who provide it, then the skills gap is going to get wider.
And I worry, man, because I'm rooting for the president.
I want to see manufacturing re-sured and and I I want to see industrialization reinvigorated.
But we have 7.6 million open jobs right now, Sean.
Four hundred eighty thousand of them are in manufacturing alone.
So by the way, that's about to get so much bigger because Donald Trump has secured anywhere from twelve to fifteen trillion dollars in manufacturing money for automobiles, for pharmaceuticals, semiconductor tri uh chips, uh rare earths, magnets.
I mean, all of that manufacturing is coming online quickly, especially because he they added apparently bonus depreciation, which means that if you build a manufacturing center, you get to write it off in year one.
And that is incentivizing companies to spend that money almost immediately.
Yep, yep.
All true.
But look, here I was in the room uh about three weeks ago in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, sitting on the stage with the president and thirty-five CEOs of some of the biggest companies in the country who collectively pledged ninety-two billion dollars to infrastructure and data centers in PA alone.
Now it was a story, but it wasn't big enough.
This is a huge thing that happened.
And I realized about halfway through the reason I was there was kind of to remind the crowd, look, we've got the money and we have a president who seems pretty determined to bring these opportunities back to the States, but I don't know that we have the workforce.
Right now, and I don't know if you've crossed paths yet with Nick Eberstad, you'd love him.
He wrote a book called Men Without Work.
And in it he takes a deep deep dive into the reasons why there's seven million able bodied men in this country right now who not only aren't working, they're not looking for work.
That's never happened in peacetime before.
So when you think about the opportunities that currently exist that employers can't fill and then when you think about the opportunities you've just described that are going to be created, you have to wrestle with the basic truth that creating jobs is different than creating enthusiasm for jobs.
And if we don't have the enthusiasm, if we don't have the aforementioned appreciation, we're going to have a really tough time filling those opportunities.
The jobs that we're describing here are high paying career jobs with great benefits, you know, that that will help people achieve the American dream.
You know, um I've always admired you from afar.
Um I feel like my in my life and career I've been blessed beyond anything I ever deserved if there were two shows that I could do that were different than what I'm doing now they would be the two shows you worked on Dirtiest Jobs and and Deadliest Catch.
I mean y you know I'm obsessed with them because I talk to you about it all the time.
I'm obsessed with it.
Well you're and I because I I mean like my heart was broken when when Deadliest Catch you went through a period was about two years in a row and a lot of the crew members they were dying left right and sideways.
I'm like oh my you I couldn't even believe it.
Yeah it was so tragic and so sad.
And you knew these guys intimately Phil Harris was a friend lost him in two thousand uh eight I suppose it was Cornelia Marie went down.
Lose a guy every year you know and and look this is this is not something that ought to be glamorized but nor is it something that should be ignored.
You fell off a roof in the midst of a construction career that you nevertheless continued to enjoy.
These men on Deadliest Catch, which by the way season 21 just started 21 seasons.
So you know there are a lot of things you can look at Dirty jobs and deadly catch and you can you can wonder you know why would those shows last two decades and you know I I've got a couple theories but at the top of the list is the simple fact that they show you something that is undeniably true, undeniably real, and undeniably work.
And it's a reminder, you know, as we I think I mean since we started this conversation with uh artificial intelligence I'll make the point around that that term in the future even though I can't see it clearly I am pretty sure that there's going to be a bright line drawn between all that is artificial and all that is authentic.
And that line's going to become really important for people to understand and we're going to value things on both sides of the line but we're going to hunger for the authentic thing whether it's a piece of art music or a roofer or a craftsman and I think the extent to which this new technology affects everything will be different.
It's going to be really hard to handicap what comes next exactly but let me tell you you can never replace those guys on deadliest catch artificial intelligence maybe technology might help the you know how heartbreaking it is when they pull up you know when they pull up the cage and there's no no crab in it.
I'm like I'm like so disappointed.
I feel like I'm living it with them.
It's life.
It's like I mean the metaphor it's real.
It it's absolutely real.
And look, I'll tell you something else you don't see in that show, which is also thirty seconds, so go ahead.
Flat C's, nothing happening.
Pleasant temperatures.
Or I've never seen that.
And you and you not in the Bering Sea, no.
But it's a part of life too.
Look, you your your day is full and busy, but you don't spend twenty-four hours on the radio or in front of the camera.
That's what people know you for.
But there's a whole lot of other stuff that makes Sean Hannity Sean Hannity.
And the same is true of Mike Rowe and Phil Harris, and any one of a thousand roofers we've never met, uh, but would be better for.
We love uh talking to our friend Mike Rowe.
Mike, we appreciate it.
Don't forget Mike Rowe works.
I believe it's MicroWorks.com, right?
MicroWorks.org.
And look, I will I promise you, I promise you I'll get you that.
Don't worry, I I'm I just love jazzing you.
It's fine.
Uh I love those guys.
Please tell them I'm a big fan.
I'll tell them, and I'm serious about the money.
It went a long way, and we're gonna raise it.
That was my pleasure, but I just give uh I'd just like to give you a hard time because I can.
You gave me an opening and I'm taking full advantage of it.
I'm at your mercy.
Thanks for having me on.
All right, Mike Rowe.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll continue straight ahead.
800 941 Shauna's on number.
All right, let's get into our busy, busy telephones.
Tom in New York.
Tom, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Mind you what you're looking for.
Hi, son.
Long time.
What's going on?
Uh first time caller.
I just wanted to is there any way for the DOJ or whoever it is to go after Obama and impeach him after the fact so that he at least doesn't get on the on the impeachment side, I mean, obviously the precedent was set with Donald Trump, right?
So I would say the answer is if they wanted to, they could.
I'm not so sure I would waste my time on it.
And some that might annoy some people that I'm saying that.
Those people that are involved in a criminal conspiracy, however, do need to be looked into.
Now I do think there is an argument.
I think people have been very dismissive of the fact that if Obama orchestrated all of this, that he would be covered under the immunity decision by the Supreme Court that was given w uh that applied that was applicable to Donald Trump.
I'm not so sure orchestrating a contrived phony narrative uh to impact an election and sabotage your presidency can be defined as the official duties of any president.
However, do I think it would get far legally?
I do not.
I'm just being realistic.
I'm giving you the straight s straight scoop here.
But as it relates to the grand conspiracy, do I think that there are a lot of people that are probably very nervous with this grand jury being formed?
Yeah, I think I think a lot of people should be nervous.
This is this is now a story that we have covered, you know, for many, many years on this program.
We have been proven more than correct.
I find it obnoxious that the same people that peddled lies and conspiracy theories, you know, have never retracted their their phony reporting.
They've never apologized.
Uh they just keep moving forward with more lies, more conspiracy theories.
And so conspiracy theorist Rachel Matto.
We now live in a country that has an authoritarian leader consolidating dictatorship.
It's, you know, it's i I I guess, you know, conspiracy theory crap sells.
Well, what are you gonna do?
I believe in free speech, even if you're dumb.
Uh it's um it's obnoxious.
But it was everybody in the legacy media.
And if you want to know what the net result for them was, peddling their lies and conspiracy theories, I I argue that legacy media is now dead.
I think that Donald Trump tattooed the words fake and news into the foreheads of every major Network, two cable networks, the New York Times and Washington Post, and people they as we let as we went into the 2024 election, and everybody heard all the lies, conspiracy theories, the trashing of Trump, the American people ignored it.
And I think that is telling in and of itself.
Let them die and bleed out because nobody cares what they think.
Because once you betray the trust of your audience, why should anyone ever trust you again?
I agree, but they still have to be punished for what they attempted to do and what the taxpayer money and what pre they put President Trump through.
Well, I think there's I I think with this grand jury, it's gonna be interesting to watch.
However, I say all of that, but I don't want to overpromise and underdeliver.
I don't want to raise your expectations and tell you that these people are gonna be held accountable or be indicted.
Do I think that there it has been a grand conspiracy in three presidential elections, putting cinder blocks on those elections to benefit Democrats?
Do I think people in what we describe as the deep state abuse their power?
Yes.
Uh do I think it's illegal?
Yes.
Do I think it is the real threat?
I mean, Democrats ran uh Donald Trump's the threat to democracy when in reality the real threat to democracy was their weaponization of justice uh and lawfare that they used from 2020 to 2024, or the fact that they they knew that the Hunter Biden laptop was real.
Uh they they literally found it to be authentic, and then they go out and pre-bunk it to social media so the story that they knew would leak gets suppressed before an election.
That's putting a cinder block on an election to me.
You know, advancing a Russia hoax that they knew was false based on a phony Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian disinformation dossier, and then using it to backdoor spy on President Trump, candidate Trump, transition team Trump is repulsive to me.
And then to take career senior intel officials that determined there was no Russia-Russia hoax, and then to turn it on its head and rewrite it in a way to create difficulty for an incoming president is beyond repulsive.
It is an abuse of power, it is corruption at its worst.
This this makes Watergate to me look like a jaywalking offense.
And Nixon didn't even know about it.
I think he probably did know more than we know.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
800-941 Sean Steve, Louisiana next Sean Hannity Show.
What's going on, Steve?
Hello, Mr. Hannity.
This is indeed a pleasure.
I've watched you and listened to you since your early days with Mr. Combs on Fox and wasn't here, gentlemen.
And um I just think of you as a true patriot.
You've taken all these slams, these ugly, horrible slams all these years, and you haven't blinked.
You've just told the facts, did incredible research and told the facts and had to write experts on.
I I really think a lot of you, sir.
Well, I appreciate it.
And by the way, this the slams do not bother me.
And the slams to this day don't bother me.
Good.
And you know, the people that are trying to, you know, sucker me into their intramural arguments because they think that they are the purest MAGA people.
Well, I was around in 2015, and I don't know or remember any of them being anywhere near where I was supporting Donald Trump.
Right.
Right.
And and and I think you're your your fans, yeah, those people who love you, I think we get more upset than you do.
And and before I I tell you why I called, um, just a quick side note.
Look, you and Miss Linda are y'all are wonderful.
Y'all are great people.
Uh, but anybody can forget.
And I just want to remind you it um to do something nice for Miss Katie on her birthday.
She's such a sweet person.
She really is.
And uh she's got to be a southern gal.
No, no, everybody that works on my team they're all nice people in their own way.
Linda's a very unique case, but she has great qualities.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm not trying to be nice, so don't worry, I'm not offended.
I'm not here to be nice.
I'm nice to a few people.
There's a people who are in my family and my animals.
Everybody else, forget about it.
You're on a short list.
Uh I'm not even on the nice list.
You're on the uh depends what day it is list.
Are you on the day where you put me on hold for 37 minutes and then I have to figure out what I'm gonna do with my segment?
Oh my gosh.
Anyway.
I both I both love and fear you.
You are all see that?
The smart man.
You're gonna live a long, happy life, my friend.
Let me tell you, there's nothing to fear.
He's all bark, no bite.
Oh my God, he's so full of it.
You don't even ride the subway with me.
How would you know?
I have no desire to ride the subway with you.
I've no desire to ever ride a subway again as long as I live.
Trust me, if you rode the subway with me, you'd be like, she is someone to be feared.
Okay, then.
You're welcome.
Uh I used to ride the subway.
Screaming that I'm ruining the world.
You know what would be a great show is you and Curtis live from the subway.
I could do it.
I mean, we've done it before.
I've been on the subway many times with Curtis.
All right, let's get back to our friend Steve in Louisiana.
Steve, the the floor is yours.
Thank you, sir.
The reason I'm calling you is because I I'm different with my friends, uh, liberal and conservative.
I and I'm not sure if I'm just strong on this issue or I'm biased, and I'm willing to accept even.
I just want your opinion on do I have the right perspective.
The Gazans, the the peep Palestinians in Gaza.
I ever I'm tired of hearing about, oh, these poor people, they're such victims.
And please, sir, don't get me wrong.
I never want to see a child starve.
You know, I want them to get to good medical care and all that wonderful stuff that they deserve.
But let's face reality, that what wasn't round 06, 09.
They were given this wonderful land.
And instead of instead of doing the hard work to develop and and show that you're worthy of your own country and and the courageousness behind that, they they vote in Hamas.
They vote in Hamas.
Just like and it's reminiscent of 1930s to German citizens voting in the uh Nazi Party.
And in both cases, when the war is over, they're they're crying.
They're crying, um, look, we're starving.
Everything is destroyed.
Our homes are destroyed.
We're starving.
Well, folks, that's cause and effect.
You know, and and if you also note, I know I'm going on, I'm sorry.
If you also note that um the other the Mid East countries don't want these folks.
And there's a reason.
There's a reason.
They're not pull yourself up by your bootstraps kind of people.
And and I I just I find it so hard to find them as victims.
Yeah, yeah, with with the t October 7th and thereafter, there was no moral outrage from these people.
They just capitulate.
They they're out in the crowds chanting whatever they're told to chant.
You know, you if you remember World War II, French, France, when they were taken over by Germany, they formed an underground.
That's c courageous.
I don't want to keep going on.
I know you're let me let me help you with uh let me sum it up and I'll quote President Trump to do it.
The fastest way to end the humanitarian crisis in Gaza is for Hamas to surrender and release the hostages.
What but what really irritates me is a lot of people have lost a lot of perspective.
Israel has been the victim of a group of people funded by the number one state sponsor of terror that has been responsible for taking monies given to them to build out terror tunnel networks.
I've been in them, I've seen them.
I've been to the towns where tens of thousands of rockets have been fired into.
We know what happened on October seventh, the equivalent of 40,000 dead Americans a day based on their population size versus ours.
Uh, we know their charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
Any suffering that has taken place is a direct result of Hamas and of course their benefactors, the Iranians that have been fomenting terror in the reason as the number one state sponsor of terror.
Israel has been the victim.
And the fact that so many and now I even hear from some conservatives Don't have the moral clarity and sense to understand who the real victim is here is is a little troubling to me.
Israel has been the victor of the victim of an unrelenting terrorist campaign against them since the UN partition plan and even before that.
And Israel has every right to defend itself.
And the idea that they they somehow are responsible for this is obscene.
Over a hundred million meals have been given out.
But what happened with all the money that they spend on that should be spent on schools and infrastructure and hospitals and making a better way of life for their people.
No.
They built the most intricate, sophisticated, because I've been in them, underground terror tunnel system.
Uh they buy weaponry like rockets to continue to fire tens and tens of thousands of them over the years into Israel, and they foment terror.
Uh why are they starving?
Why are their people starving?
Because they have put the they have prioritized killing Jews and terrorizing the Jewish people over the survival even of their own people.
But with that said, I want a permanent solution.
And I don't think it's a two-state solution.
And I think that hopefully the president, Steve Whitkoff, Israel will come up with a solution so that innocent people and children uh will no longer be victimized by the people that you're you're right that they voted into government.
You know, terrorism has got to stop.
Israel could no longer withstand all these rockets being fired into that country.
It's gotta end.
And if I'm Israel, one more rocket and I will decimate you.
Sorry, you punch me or my family member in the face.
I am gonna hit you back 10, 20, 100 times harder.
That's how life works.
I wish it wasn't that way.
I wish evil didn't exist, but it does.
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