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July 29, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Declassified Truth - July 28th, Hour 2
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Damn Bongino this weekend.
I will never be the same after learning what I have learned.
I can confirm it has everything to do with what Tulsi Gabbard has been releasing and declassifying and everything to do with the grand conspiracy that is now beginning to take shape and to unfold.
We have a lot of news on this, and we have Jason Chaffetz, who was actively involved on the oversight committee at the time and was a very integral part of getting out a lot of the information in real time.
What's interesting and kind of fascinating to watch unfold here is you got the Obama team now quietly trying to stop you, the American people, from actually hearing about these revelations, or they're just flat out lying and dismissing them, which is predictable.
We have the CIA director, John Ratcliffe, suggesting that Clinton Brennan won't have the statute of limitations protection in the Russia Gay case.
The CIA director also confirming this deep state plot and how it lives on and more declassification is coming.
Tulsi Gabbard at the DNI unleashing a fury at Obama over his failure to squash what she's calling treasonous Russian conspiracy.
And Senator Lindsey Graham saying new evidence requires a special counsel probe in the case.
And so there's just a lot of moving pieces that are happening really, really quickly here.
Victor Davis Hansen had a great point in this, and that is damning data dump exposes Obama's complicity.
And that really gets to the heart of it is they got intelligence from senior intelligence officials going, you know, six weeks after the election in 2016 that said, no, there was no Russian interference.
They didn't like the intelligence community assessment.
So they just decided to change it in spite of a lot of protesting from those people that put it together and warned them that what they were doing was false and that they shouldn't do it.
And now the Obama allies are hoping the American public will never learn the details.
I don't think they can stop this freight train.
This freight train moving is at the speed of light at this point.
And it's including Tulsi Gabbard, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, FBI Director Cash Patel, Deputy Director Dan Bongino, the Attorney General Pam Bondi, all investigating the origins of what has been one of the biggest lies.
And Bongino is not wrong in saying that, you know, for this republic to continue, you cannot have deep state operatives.
And I've been using my same analogy.
I think it's applicable.
People that want to destroy a duly elected president with lies and using the power that they are entrusted with to do so.
Or in the case of 2020, putting cinder blocks on the scale of an election after they verify the authenticity of a very real laptop, that being that of Hunter Biden.
Anyway, Jason Chaffetz, author of kind of appropriate, they're coming for you, how deep state spies, NGOs, and woke corporations plan to push you out of the economy.
Anyway, former Oversight Committee Chair, Jason Chaffetz, thanks for being with us.
Oh, thanks, Sean.
All right, let's talk about what we hear, what we see, and where is this going?
Hopefully all the way to a prosecutor's desk and somebody who actually gets prosecuted because I think the fraud that was perpetuated and pushed on the American people, it just doesn't, this is why I think a guy like Dan Bongino, who's seen a lot, said, look, this shakes me to my core.
And part of that, what I would add, because you're 100% right on all of this, Sean, are these FISA warrants because they use the police powers, then they use this bogus document to apply to the court to be able to spy on people.
And when you do so, the document that you actually use says at the very top verified.
And so if you can further prove that they knew it was false or should have known that it was false, and they fraudulently go before the court and make that representation, you know, you can't do that in this country.
And there is going to be accountability.
And hopefully that accountability starts now.
That is but just one of the things.
But you have John Ratcliffe, who remember was on the Intel Committee prior to Congress.
He was a U.S. attorney for terrorism cases.
He was the director of national intelligence in Trump's first administration.
Now he's the director of the CIA.
He's been able to unearth documents we've never previously seen.
That's why I think he foreshadowed that in the next few days, we should be seeing information that has never been seen before.
Okay.
Well, based on what Tulsi Gabbard has declassified, what is your take on all of this?
To me, it is as damning as it can get, is that they purposefully went out there and changed senior career intelligence that officials' analysis of 2016, and they did it on purpose.
They did it to sabotage Trump.
They did it based on a document they knew to be phony and fraudulent.
That is the Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian disinformation dossier.
And Comey has a different issue because Comey signed three of the four Pfizer warrants, and he used as the basis for those warrants, the bulk of information was from that dirty, unverified, and unverifiable and now and totally debunked by December of 2016.
Dossier is the bulk of information.
He signed two more Pfizer warrants even after he knew it was debunked.
Yeah, and that, again, if this conspiracy comes together the way John Radcliffe is foreshadowing, you know, those are issues that can be prosecuted.
I think the other thing that was, I've never heard somebody, you know, go to the White House podium and say out loud, which was Tulsi Gabbard talking about President Barack Obama, him personally be involved.
And that is a stunning revelation.
Now, remember, during the Obama administration, you have Barack Obama going around saying, oh, I scandal-free administration.
I mean, everything from Fast and Furious and the use of the IRS.
But how about all the spying on James Rose and spying on the Associated Press and tapping into what they're doing?
So it's not a real leap to think that maybe they did go out and spy on Trump or Trump's administration.
That's an open question.
I think it's an allegation at this point.
But that foreshadows and portends that, you know, there's a lot more to this at that time.
And remember, it's mid-December 2016 when Donald Trump as the president-elect is going to start getting the presidential briefings.
But curiously, it's just the week before that then you have Barack Obama evidently directing the band there.
Hey, we need to go back and change this assessment.
That's where the scramble with the senior officials are trying to cover up their tracks because the unthinkable happened.
Donald Trump actually got elected and they were afraid that eventually he would see this.
And I think that's coming into play right now.
Why do you believe or do you believe as others that the statute of limitations are not applicable?
And do you see where Cash Patel had announced that there's a grand conspiracy investigation?
Because I would argue the weaponization of the Department of Justice from 2020 to 2024 was all designed to even to bloody up Donald Trump to the point he could not run for a second term at that point.
I do believe that what they did by nobody had ever seen the Hunter Biden laptop.
The FBI had verified its authenticity in March of 2020.
They did go out and pre-bunk it.
Is that not putting cinder blocks on the scale of an election and having deep state operatives manipulate an election?
Because had this come out and they verified its authenticity, no way Joe Biden could have won in 2020.
No, I don't.
And, you know, Donald Trump said in real time some of these things that were happening.
And there were a lot of us, even in Congress, like, where is this information?
How do we get it?
Well, it ends up we were asking for it.
We were subpoenaing it.
We were looking for it.
It's just the Obama administration and subsequently the Biden administration, they were hiding it.
And so even if we issued a subpoena and asked for this information, they just weren't providing it.
You asked the first question about the statute of limitations.
My understanding, having heard this from Brett Tolman, a former U.S. attorney, also from John Ratcliffe, the starting clock on the statute of limitations starts at the very last act of the perpetuation of that conspiracy.
But there is testimony, multiple testimonies that happened in Congress after 2020.
That you had Intel Committee, you had other committees, you had subcommittees asking questions of these players and these people.
And as Trey Gowdy and others point out, they were just flat out lying to us.
And again, Trey Gowdy was also on the Intel Committee.
He was asking those questions of Brenner.
He knew the answer to those questions.
And he just, I mean, he is very adamant that he just lied and lied to Congress.
So tell me what shape this takes form in.
It's not like, to me, the foundation is already there.
And now we're putting on top of the foundation, we're beginning to build out this entire case.
And with it, now we have smoking gun evidence as the declassification process moves forward.
It would seem to me that somebody in fairly short order could probably put it all together.
Is that naivete on my part to think it could happen quickly?
Oh, I think it is.
I think that's a reason why John Ratcliffe went on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartaromo and said as much.
I mean, he made it sound like this was days away.
Does it take a week or two?
Maybe.
But a guy like that, a real true professional, is not going to go out and foreshadow it to that degree without something that is pending.
And while he doesn't explicitly say it, my reading of the Between the Lines on Dan Bongino is that he has also now seen it.
And, you know, you've got to give time for these prosecutors to put the whole case top to bottom because they're going to fight the national media.
They're going to fight them every single step of the way.
But they've got to be able to make the case clearly to the American people and show how all of these elements come together.
You've been covering this for years.
You know, your friend Greg Jarrett wrote a book on this, for goodness sake.
He wrote two books on this.
Let's be real.
And they were both number one bestsellers.
It's frustrating to me.
There were not many of us that were digging deep, and we were right there.
We had it.
The only thing we didn't have was the declassified information, which offers full, complete vindication and validation of everything that we did.
It was three years of work.
And Jason, you were on the program a lot talking about it with us, as was Trey Gowdy, as was John Solomon, Greg Jarrett, Catherine Herridge at the time, Sarah Carter at the time, and Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows, Matt Gates.
I mean, I'm just giving the names of the people that were the most helpful.
Well, look, we were talking to whistleblowers, people who had seen and were aware of this information.
But what seems to be new, what the director of the CIA is saying, is now there are handwritten notes and other things that could be declassified.
And you've got to be really careful because we take in this nation very sensitive information, sources and methods, making sure that we don't expose somebody who is in peril.
And that work sounds like it has been done over the last six months because John Ratcliffe got a running start at this.
Having been through that, that's why it's coming to fruition now.
That's why I think it's on the verge of breaking loose.
All right, this case getting blown wide open.
How far does it go?
Will people be arrested?
We'll get an answer from Jason Chaffetz on the other side.
Don't forget his new book, They're Coming for You, How Deep State Spies, NGOs, Woke Corporations Plan to Push You Out of the Economy.
Amazon.com, Hannity.com, Bookstores Around the Country.
More with Jason than your calls, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program this Monday.
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I don't like over-promising and under-delivering.
And Epstein would be a case where I think people thought something was going to be coming.
And by the way, there might be things coming.
I'm still withholding judgment more than other people are and still confident.
I have confidence in Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Tam Bongino, and others to get to the bottom of this.
I just want it to play out a little more before I make a definitive statement on it, but that's kind of been my MO, and it's not a lot of other people's MOs.
They just kind of rush to judgment.
But do you really believe we can tell people with a high degree of confidence that they'll be held accountable?
Well, look, I believe I've known Tulsi Gabbard for 12 years.
I've known John Ratcliffe for longer than that.
These are people that I associated with on a daily basis, and I find them to be reasonable, not hyperbolic.
I don't think they would go before the world with cameras rolling and foreshadowed to the degree that they did unless they have something real.
So, yeah, I mean, temper expectations, I guess, but I didn't expect them to come out with this in such a bold statement.
But I'm repeating what they've said, and that gives me great hope.
We appreciate your time, as always, and the great work that you've done.
I have a funny feeling we will be talking to you a lot in the days and weeks and probably months ahead.
Anyway, Jason Schaffetz, thank you so much.
Congratulations, by the way, on your book, They're Coming for You, How Deep State Spies, NGOs, Woke Corporations Plan to Push You Out of the Economy.
Hannity.com, Amazon.com, and bookstores around the country.
Thank you, sir.
Thanks, Sean.
There is something, a disturbing trend that I see out there that needs to be addressed.
I'm not sure where it came, why it's getting this bad, why people are buying into this.
I brought this up on Patrick David's podcast a little bit.
It came up, and that is there is Holocaust denialism out there at a level I've never seen before.
Now, we know the squad.
We know that anti-Semitism has been on the rise in the halls of Congress.
We know that it's been on the rise worldwide.
We know that it's been on the rise on college campuses.
Now it's on the rise in terms of new media and young social media influencers.
I mean, even going as far as to blame Jewish people for Hitler targeting them in the Holocaust and this denialism that Winston Churchill was not one of the greatest heroes of all time because long before anybody else saw it, he saw what Hitler was capable of.
And, you know, Neville Chamberlain, oh, he meets in Munich with Hitler and he comes back to Great Britain and declares there will be peace at our time.
No, there's not.
And, well, but Western civilization has deteriorated.
Well, that's the responsibility of every generation thereafter because as Reagan admonished us all, freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
And so the idea that Winston Churchill didn't rally a world against, you know, the evils of Nazism and fascism and imperial Japan and Stalin and Russia and all these different, you know, if you look at the last century, over 100 million human souls plus were murdered in the name of some ism.
I didn't think we'd have to go back and re-litigate World War II.
My dad fought in the Pacific for four long years.
But this is just a sampling of the insanity and history revisionism that's going on now.
Listen.
What do you guys think about Hitler?
What if the Jewish did something to the Germans that made them act a certain way, but nobody wants to talk about it?
Like the Jews don't want to take accountability.
That's sad.
Yes.
I'm with you on that one.
Okay.
That's why that was up to something.
So the Germans wanted to take them out.
Like there had to be something.
Like Germans wanted to take them out.
All of this is selfish.
They damn nearby.
They started it.
Like it's somebody that mad.
Like, yeah, talk about them.
The Holocaust was the only way he can take out a huge population, like a huge amount of Jews all in one setting.
But I already know what's going on.
Like, I'm not dumb.
Like, I know, like, the Jews did something.
That's why they sent up here.
They're trying to take back.
Like, they're trying to take back and get repercussions, especially from America, like from Americans.
So they're taking over the government and stuff like that.
I'm telling you, how do we take them down?
How do we take them down?
Yeah.
I mean, I had to say it.
My bad.
My bad.
Hitler, he had the plan, but his plan was just too, like, very gruesome.
If you say it, listen, he has to do what he had to do.
It didn't work out.
I mean, Jews are the reason why the healthcare system and everything around us in the government is collapsing because they're sitting up here stealing away from the American people.
The Jews are responsible for the healthcare system in this country.
You know, what did the Jews do to cause Adolf Hitler to want to annihilate them?
You know, one of the things that we do have going back even as early as the 1940s, we do have videotape of what actually happened in these death camps.
And you're looking at men, women, and children that were slaughtered for no reason at all, except for the fact that they were Jewish or they were gay or they were Catholic and that they didn't fit into this Aryan mentality, this sick, twisted, disgustingly repulsive, evil mindset of Hitler.
Over six million Jews were slaughtered.
And I'm listening to this, and they're justifying it as the Holocaust was the only way that and that would Hitler do, and he, you know, he had to do what he had to do, and somehow rationalizing away mass death and murder.
What has happened to people that could be that sick, ugly, evil, and twisted and justify what was the only description of this is evil and not recognizing the heroism of all of those people that fought back to defeat these forces of evil in a time.
Because I don't know what the world would look like had we lost World War II.
Pretty nauseating.
Let's get to our busy phones.
800-941.
Sean is on number if you want to be a part of the program.
Ron in Oklahoma, Ron.
Hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
What did you think of that tape?
Yeah, right.
Well, you don't have to throw a rock very far down and not hit an idiot.
I tell you what, I was, Linda really got me excited the other day whenever she was talking about becoming the vice president.
And I thought.
Oh, geez.
Are we going back to this?
This has got to stop.
Nobody is asking me to run for president.
And I said if I did, it would only be if Trump accepted if Trump would be my vice president.
And Linda was offended.
Well, I got a better position for her.
AG.
She seems like she has a fire in her belly, and we need one.
We've been putting up with this three or four-tiered system of justice for 15 or 20 years now, and people are sick of it.
Well, she's not a lawyer.
She has a lot of master's degrees, but one of them is not a doctorate of law.
Henry Ford was not a brilliant man either, but he knew how to hire people that was.
I didn't say she's not brilliant.
I just said she doesn't have a doctorate of law.
I would think that would be a prerequisite if you're going to be the Attorney General of the United States.
Well, apparently you're against her.
I'm not against her.
I said I would make her communications director and White House press secretary for as long as she could hold the job, but I fear she might break Anthony Scaramucci's record.
Yeah, well, my point is, I'm like millions of other Americans that want to see somebody go to jail, and I don't see it happening.
And I haven't seen it happening for years and years because of buzzwords, like we're going to try to, you know, and things of this nature.
Nobody tries to.
Listen, I reported all of this information on the Russia hoax, everything about Hunter Biden's laptop.
I spent years on this program, years on Hannity, no expectation at all that I could get this over the finish line.
This is the first time I have some real hope that there might be some accountability.
And so I'm just, I do trust this group of people a lot more than any other group that we've ever had.
And I have more hope that we'll get there.
But I think you hear where I'm coming from.
We don't trust them at all, Sean.
Well, I do try.
Let me, I trust President Trump.
I trust Pam Bondi, Cash Fatelle, Dan Bongino.
I've known all of them for decades.
I remember when Hillary was debating Trump there at one of the primaries.
She said, I can't picture you in the United States under this man's authority.
And he looked at her and said, Well, for one thing, you'd be in jail.
That's been a long time ago.
And we always, everybody laughed and thought it was funny.
And boy, it was a great comeback.
But he told the truth and nothing's happened.
What this man has been through and what we're discovering, it was all designed to destroy him and sabotage his presidency.
It was all designed to prevent him from winning in 2020.
All the lawfare was designed to bloody him up to such a degree that he could never be a viable candidate in 24.
This is all stuff that we reported.
The fact that this man was able to not only withstand it, but fight back against it day in and day.
Can you imagine the four years for Donald Trump from 20 to 24 and what that was like?
I know what it was like because I was in touch with him regularly.
And if you think those were four good years of his life, I can promise you they were not.
And I can tell you that it was, he was willing to put it all on the line for God and country and for the American people.
And he rolled the dice.
It was, he put everything on the line.
It was either the White House or it was going to be the big house.
There was no in-between, and nobody will ever convince me otherwise, which makes me like him and admire him even more.
Anyway, my friend, I appreciate it.
Thank you so much for being out there.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll get to your calls, 800-941-Sean, our number this Monday as we continue on.
Final hour roundup is next.
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And stay tuned for the final hour free-for-all on the Sean Hannity Show.
All right, back to our busy phones, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Let's say hi to Brad.
He's in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Brad, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thank you for taking my call, Sean.
You're a great American.
What's going on?
So you are a great American.
Thank you.
Before I get to my point, you and Levin knocked it out last night.
That was a terrific show.
You liked it.
It was fun to do.
I enjoyed it.
I really did.
The Great One's new book on power is a must-read for everybody.
He's going to be on the show tomorrow.
Yeah, he's terrific, too.
So the reason I called, as you said, I'm in Pennsylvania, so I'm not voting in New York City.
But if I were, I wouldn't think about voting for this Momdami guy until he stops being such a hypocrite and practice what he preaches.
By that, I'm talking about he wants to defund the police and replace them with social workers.
He needs to dismantle his security detail and replace him with social workers.
And I wouldn't even think about voting for him until he did.
I'm going to tell you, this guy is, he's just bad news.
I mean, there's no other way to put it.
You know, there's a reason why the Democratic Party's disapproval rating now is at a 35-year low, and I don't see them recovering from this.
By the way, Mr. Man of the People, Zoron Mamdani, throwing a multi-million dollar wedding bash for, you know, as he got married, I guess, this weekend in, where did he get married, Uganda?
It, you know, it was a scene right out of the 2018, you know, like a movie.
It was just insane.
Anyway, this wedding this past weekend, socialist New York City mayoral frontrunner Zoron Mamdani, you know, celebrates his recent nuptials with a lavish three-day affair at the family's ritzy, secluded Ugandan compound.
I'm like, wow, really a man of the people.
But by the way, isn't that how socialism, statism, communism really works?
And that is that the high and mighty, they live one way and we little peons, we live a different way.
You know, a system for them and then a whole other system for us.
It's just like we get stuck with Obamacare, and meanwhile, Congress, you know, renders that they're not subject to the same law.
I mean, it's such hypocrisy.
Man of the people.
Good grief.
It's do as I say, not as I do.
Yeah, really well said.
Really well said.
Brad, a lot of good things coming to Pennsylvania.
You saw the president's press conference a couple of weeks ago.
I'm excited for Pennsylvania.
I'm really happy for you.
I think you're going to have real economic growth there, huge job opportunities for the great people in your Commonwealth.
And I'm really excited for you.
I want everybody to have a shot at the American Dream.
I've had a shot at the American Dream, as unpredictable as my life has been.
And I never thought I'd be successful at anything, to be honest.
I just knew I like radio when I got behind a radio mic.
And the idea, high-paying career jobs for people that really do make this country great, that makes me so happy for those families.
Nice house, safe neighborhood, good schools, you know, a car or a truck that you want, vacation, going out to dinner on a weekend, not having to worry about paying for it, saving for your retirement.
Just the basics.
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