All right, Leonard Skinner, simple man, that can only mean one thing on this radio program, and that is all things self-proclaimed, simple man.
That means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things Bill O'Reilly at billo'reilly.com.
I just got a copy of Bill's soon-to-be-released book, Confronting Evil, Assessing the Worst of the Worst.
I am on the cover.
Mr. O'Reilly, I was surprised you put me there with the Supreme Leader and the Ayatollah and every other and Putin and everybody else.
What was up with that?
That was awful.
That's not you, Annette.
That's Caligula.
You guys look by the way, nobody knows who Caligula is, which makes it even funnier.
How are you doing?
I know this is the highlight of your week.
This is, of course, the highlight of my week.
But, you know, we're doing a number of things here that are advancing stories, and I wanted to get your opinion on one of them.
I, as you know, highly respect Holman and the effort to control criminal, illegal immigration, and not just criminal.
If you have scop laws in here, people who have violated traffic and domestic laws, all of that, they should be booted immediately.
And I'm not one of those people.
But when a mistake is made, I want Homeland Security to admit the mistake.
And we're working on this case of this guy who was denied entry into the USA up in Holton, Maine.
Have you heard about this?
I have not.
So the guy was on vacation.
He's got five kids.
He lives in Peterborough, New Hampshire.
And it's not a national story.
And he came back driving in, and they wouldn't let him in because he had a pot beef 12 years ago.
And so the kids could go back to Peterborough, but he could.
And I think they're going to work it out.
But my message to Homeland Security, mistakes are going to be made.
And just try to mitigate them when you can.
I think that's a reasonable position, right?
Well, I mean, Trump has actually made similar comments in as much as he doesn't want, you know, the farming industry to get destroyed because they have, over the years, they've been reliant on labor, some of which is illegal, et cetera.
You know, but we're really threading a needle here, Bill, is because the sheer amount of people that Biden Harris, Mayorkas, the complicit media Democrats allowed into this country, and they lied about it, repeated for four years, said the border's closed, border secured.
We have so many known terrorists in the country.
We even have Iranian assassination squads and murderers, rapists, and other violent criminals and cartel members and gang members.
And what you're asking makes a lot of sense.
It really does.
However, we don't really have the luxury considering the magnitude of the problem to go through every case and decide it because there's just so many.
And so the initial reaction is, okay, that's why I love the idea of paying people $1,000, giving them a plane ticket, go home, and then apply to come in legally.
I like that idea a lot.
That's not going to work.
But you know what?
We're working.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, no, Bill, that is working, actually.
About a million people self-deported.
It's working.
Okay, I did not know that.
All I know, the latest stats that we have are 300,000 people have been either deported or detained by Homeland Security in six months.
Now, that's a lot of people, but it's not even 1% of what Biden let in.
But I think that President Trump should get behind a new immigration law and to really cajole Congress into passing a new law that would have much tougher penalties on the bad, undocumented.
And then Trump himself, with his acolytes in the Senate and the House, could come up with, we're going to issue more green cards.
We're going to do X and Y and Z.
I think that's doable, Annody.
you can do that and i hope you know but but here's bill um let me push back a little and gently and i think you're coming at this from a very compassionate and loving point of view um But we have an 830% increase in assaults on ICE agents, Bill.
830%.
I can go through, I went through chapter and verse every single incident that occurred in just the last week of ICE agents being attacked and set up and hurt and shot at and so on and so forth.
They put themselves in harm's way every day, and the rhetoric against them has gotten insane.
And, you know, anybody that is in this country that didn't respect our laws, our borders, and our sovereignty, I'm sorry, they don't get prioritized over the safety of the American people in small towns and big cities.
And the problem is so acute right now, I think you got to get rid of people that are here illegally first, and then we're going to have to sort out those that maybe deserve to be in the country.
They've already been given an opening.
If they self-deport, they will have a chance to come back.
If you don't self-deport, you'll never come back.
I think that's pretty fair and compassionate.
I think Trump can be even tougher on that.
He can say, look, you're going to do it our way, or it's the highway to Panama.
But you already said that.
You self-deport or you'll never have a chance to commit.
It's a two-pronged assault.
You tell the undocumented people, we are going to try to pass new laws, to be fair.
However, if you get out of line, you're gone.
And the most important part of a new law would be every single undocumented person in this country would have to register with the federal government, everyone.
And immediately.
Okay.
Well, but we've kind of, I think they've kind of done that.
This is what I'm telling you.
They have given every illegal an opportunity to self-deport now, identify themselves to the government and go back to the country where they came from, and we'll give you transportation and $1,000 and the ability to apply to come in legally.
That's a pretty fair deal.
That seems to cover every base you want covered.
But it's not a law.
You need a law that says you have to.
We don't need a law.
It's a policy that's been enacted.
But it's not a law.
And once you have the law, you have to register and you don't.
That makes deportation a slam dunk.
You don't have to go and review every case.
Let me ask you a question.
Here's a serious question.
I don't know if you, I know you have a big, big, beautiful mansion on the water somewhere.
I won't tell people where it is.
And let's say you take a boat out, Bill, and your boat is taking on water, a lot of water.
What do you have to do first?
What's the first thing you do?
Yeah, you got to shore the boat up.
I understand.
But you plug up the hole.
The next thing you do, if in the water, let's say it's contaminated with something, in the case of, okay, they opened up the border.
We had wide open porous borders.
Now we have among the people that came in, probably the overwhelming vast majority of people that just wanted a better life for themselves and their children.
And they come from impoverished countries.
I don't blame them.
The border was open.
That's on us, not on them, although they did violate our laws.
But among them are people that are can't, that's like having cancer cells.
Among them are known terrorists, murderers, rapists, gang members, other violent criminals, cartel members, and assassins.
So we don't have the luxury of time to sort them out now.
That's why they put in the self-deport.
Now, it's a policy.
They can do it.
They'll get their thousand bucks.
They can apply legally, go through the process, come in legally.
The Republican Congress could pass this bill in two weeks if people would just get down and be serious about it.
Look, Trump has done the right thing, but Congress has not.
It's as simple as that.
We need a new immigration law.
Make it easy for Homeland Security easier by saying, look, you're undocumented.
You've got to register at your local post office with the federal government within a period of time, maybe 90 days.
You don't, and we find you, you're gone.
Honey, that would be the greatest thing that could happen to this country.
And then on the back end of the bill, Trump could put forth what his vision is about people being here with more green cards, whatever it may be.
I'm telling you, that would go a long way to taking all Trump hates out of it.
I feel like we're kind of talking past each other.
I really do, because I'm telling you, you don't need the law.
As a matter of policy, it's already in place for the most part, not exactly the way you want it.
And I think that we have such a bad, it's such an urgent problem.
Like Gavin Newsom is going to, I think, he wants to run for president, right?
I don't think he went to South Carolina for the weather.
In the summertime, it's pretty hot there.
You don't go to South Carolina in July unless you want to run for president, okay?
All right.
So do you not think if he runs, having supported sanctuary, state, and city status, that the issue of every Californian that has been murdered, raped, victims of violent crime, do you not think people like me are going to be scrolling the victims' names, people that he probably never talked to or mentioned once in his career as governor or lieutenant governor in his life?
Do you not think that is going to be a big issue with people as he's kind of out there fighting for the rights of people that came into the country illegally to stay?
I don't think that's going to serve him well.
Do you?
I don't think he has a chance.
I think he was running behind the governors of Maryland, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania.
I mean, anybody.
I disagree with that, too.
I think the Democratic Party will elect a radical.
If you look at the poll that came out yesterday, Kamala Harris leads the pack with like 30%.
Havan's down at like 11%.
And Mayor Pete, another leftist, and AOC's in there.
They don't know these other people, but they will.
I don't think Newsom has a chance to nomination in 28.
I do.
I think he does.
You think he does?
I think he does.
Yeah, I do.
I think it's wide open.
I think the party's become radicalized and the base of the party is radicalized, which is why people like Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries as Mom Donnie goes to Washington today.
I mean, you look at this guy, Bill, and I've told you a long time ago, and you brushed me off.
You never listen to Hannity.
You should take that as a given.
When Hannity speaks, when Marxist Mondani is now by far the frontrunner, a guy that literally has called for the government to seize the means of production, even confiscate private property and set up government-run grocery stores, defund the police and put in social workers, a lot of good that's going to do, and cash bail, raise taxes to unprecedented levels, especially raise taxes in white neighborhoods, Bill.
I forgot that part and won't condemn a global antifada against Jewish people.
He's a Marxist.
And the part in New York, as so goes New York, so goes California, so goes the country, Bill.
This party's been radicalized.
I don't believe that.
I think that most Americans don't care what happens in New York City because they think that New York is getting what it deserved.
I don't live in New York City, but I do.
Well, Chuck Schumer's from New York.
Who would win in a primary, Schumer or AOC?
AOC, kick his butt.
That's what's happened to your state, Bill.
Well, I do a commentary on YouTube.
It's youtube.com/slash Bill O'Reilly explaining who voted for Mandami.
And those are people that want to tear the system down.
They want to discuss.
But the point is, but look at Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.
They are leaders in name only.
They are impotent.
They are unwilling to take on the radicals in their party.
The Mamdani's, the AOCs, the squad, the Jasmine Crocketts, the Grandpa Bernie's and Pocahontases, they rule that party, true or false.
That's true, and that's good for the Republicans, isn't it?
Don't hear me complaining.
Yeah.
I mean, look, the more radical the Democratic Party gets, the stronger the Republicans are to increase their majority in the midterms.
And that's what's happening.
So Trump, I think, is doing a pretty good job.
He's got to get by some of these little controversies that, you know, are inexplicable, but he's been overall pretty good.
And if the tariff thing and the economy surges at the end of this year, then he'll win.
The Republicans will win.
But even if it doesn't happen, say it just stays neutral, the radical profile of the Democratic Party, most Americans don't want any part of that.
They don't want any part of it.
We'll see.
I will tell you that they can't win nationally, but I think they have fought.
They now run the party, and they are the dominant voices in the party.
And I think the base has similarly become more radicalized.
And I think more people are going to be inclined to move to the Republican Party.
Look at the poll numbers for the president with Hispanic Americans and African Americans.
They're through the roof.
And when his economic policies kick in, it's only going to get better.
I know this is your favorite part of the week, isn't it, Mr. O'Reilly?
You know, Hannity, I chin last week, and I almost said withdrawal.
You know, on Wednesday, I was going, where's Hannity?
Come on, does it even phone wherever he is?
No, I appreciate you having me on.
We appreciate you being here.
All things Bill O'Reilly at billo'reilly.com.
Mr. O'Reilly, we appreciate your time, sir.
We'll talk to you next week.
Thanks for having me.
I do find it interesting the conspiracy theories of the left.
You know, should we call it internment camps or concentration camps?
Has any of those people ever on the left that they ever once did they ever talk about Jocelyn Nungarry, Rachel Morin, Lake and Riley?
Because the same Democratic Party without a heart, conscience, or soul, that same Democratic Party wouldn't even stand for the family of Lake and Riley or Alexis Nungari, Jocelyn Nungari's mother, when the president spoke to a joint session.
I mean, pretty soulless.
And I listened to all these comments.
We have known terrorists, murderers, rapists, other violent criminals, assassination squads, cartel members, gang members, drug dealers in the country.
They just care about the abrego Garcias.
This is outrageous.
They are arresting people that broke the law.
I mean, that's big.
And now we see an 830% increase in violence against agents.
Never ceases to amaze me.
And I've never heard any of these people on fake news, CNN, MSDNC, you know, the ones talking about concentration camps, internment camps.
Have they ever once interviewed the members of families that lost loved ones because of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, the people that they supported, and their policies of open borders?
Did they ever mention these names, the names that I scrolled the entire campaign in 2024?
The people murdered, raped, and victims of violent crime.
Did they ever once mention them?
Have they ever talked to those people or their families?
I have.
I've never interviewed the Lake and Riley's family, but I talked to them.
I did interview Rachel Morin's mother.
Rachel Morin had five children.
Now, she's a grandmother, and she's taking care of her daughter's children.
I mean, amazing woman.
Alexis Nungari is one of the nicest people I've ever met.
Her 12-year-old daughter brutally raped and murdered.
How come we never hear from any of these politicians and media people about this?
Never do.
You know, just like, you know, if anyone ever, I'm glad the Democrats now all of a sudden seem to care about election integrity because they're spreading all these bizarre conspiracies.
Like, for example, did you know fake news Acosta?
I guess he has a podcast.
Is that what it is?
Just listen to the insanity.
And parties talking to James Carville.
Then you have Joy Reed, other media people.
They're all worried about the Donald Trump is going to fix the 2026 elections.
No, they just think they're going to lose and they want an excuse going in.
Listen.
Do you worry about Donald Trump and Stephen Miller and some of these types monkeying around with the midterms and the way we do elections in this country?
I mean, with what they're trying to pull these days, they don't want accountability.
They don't want Democrats getting the gavels in the House and the Senate and be able to hold hearings and start impeachment proceedings and so on.
I mean, you worry about that, James?
Here's a sharp word.
Yes.
And along the words, very.
I think it's insane, honestly, to just assume we're going to have normal elections next year.
I don't assume that.
Oh, okay.
I guess now maybe they'll support election integrity measures like, you know, voter ID and signature verification and chain of custody controls for mail-in ballots.
And maybe they'll support updated voter rolls.
And maybe they'll support partisan observers watching the voting all day and the vote counting all night.
Maybe they'll support paper ballots, which I think offers the most integrity.
Anyway, let's get to our busy, busy telephones.
Dennis in South Carolina on the Sean Hannity show.
Dennis, glad you called.
How are you, sir?
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
I think I'd safe to say I'm calling from the also free state of South Carolina.
I just wanted to talk a little bit about James Comer and their investigation into Biden's use of the auto pen.
I mean, I think it's a waste of time completely, especially when it comes to the pardons.
I mean, It reminds me of when the Democrats had control and they impeached Trump.
And again, a waste of time.
If there was something, something serious that one of his staff did and used the auto pen for, I think maybe that would be worthy of investigation.
But the pardons, I think it's a waste of time.
What say you?
Well, I'll be honest.
I'd like to get to the bottom of it.
I'd like to know who was making the decisions.
I mean, if you really think about it, it's a pretty scary, severe constitutional crisis if the duly elected president is not making the decisions and somebody is making those decisions for him or that he doesn't even know the cases of commutations, et cetera.
And he did a lot of commutations and pardons of people that definitely didn't deserve it.
Bad people.
And I'd like to know who made the decision if he didn't make it.
That to me is sort of like a coup when you think about it.
If he was not up to the job, then the people around him had a responsibility and a duty to tell the country the truth and at that point invoke the 25th Amendment.
Kamala Harris should have taken over at that point at some point.
And at least we would know that it's the actual president making the very, very critical decisions.
And I do believe that it would invalidate some of these commutations and pardons if, in fact, he did not sign off specifically on them.
You just can't lay out criteria.
That's not what the power of the pardon is all about.
I agree, but I think we can both agree that there were a lot of decisions made during the Biden administration that he had no part in, honestly.
Yeah.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, Dennis.
Thank you, man.
Glad you're out there.
Let's say hi to David in Alabama.
What's up, David?
How are you, sir?
I am well, Sean, and sweltering Southern Summer greetings to you, sir.
It's a little fun.
Well, you know, I had a chance to meet recently, and I really liked him was Nick Sabin.
I think Nick Sabin was one of the greatest college football coaches of all time, by far.
I agree.
I played under Coach Bryant.
He was my coach, and I thought.
Oh, wow.
Bear Bryant?
Yes, sir.
And, you know, what it is to have two GOATs, the greatest of all time in Alabama, and Coach Saban true.
I mean, they're both very similar, but very different, too, in the way they did things.
I mean, but it's all about the process and the belief in the process.
So, I mean, he's an amazing guy, and I'm glad he's the one looking at the name, image, likeness stuff.
So, maybe something good can finally come out of that.
Yeah, let's see what happens.
I'm torn on the issue a little bit because a lot of these athletes, the vast 99% of them, the overwhelming majority, are never going to make it in the pros.
And they do sacrifice their college experience in many ways because it's a full-time job being a top Division I athlete.
And they often, in the case of football in particular, they sacrifice their bodies and they have life-sustaining injuries.
And the ramifications, they carry that with the rest of their life, and they don't get any compensation at all.
And the schools get rich off it.
I think there's got to be a better way than the system they have now where the schools are literally buying off players and buying championships.
Well, that's true.
That's what the pro market should be about.
You know, I got an education and a diploma with mine that I put to use and had a very good career in medicine, you know, for 30 years.
But, you know, but most of them, they don't do that.
They go in, I'm here to play football, and they go home after a couple of years when they're used up or whatever.
I've had both knees replaced and both shoulders replaced.
But I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
But I'm not smart enough to see any different.
No, listen, I admire the fact that that's how you feel about it.
But listen, there's not a person that I know that played football for any extended period of time that didn't have residual injuries associated with it.
And I mean, really severe ones.
Some of them have a hard time walking and running.
And, you know, they have knee replacements and hip replacements.
In your case, knee and shoulder replacements.
I mean, this is serious stuff.
And these are lifelong injuries that people sustain.
That's why I'm not against compensating college athletes.
that sacrifice so much for the school and the school's sharing some of the revenue that they're taking in because they're getting rich off it.
And I'm going to be very blunt, too.
The idea that kids are really getting the education that they proclaim to give them, yeah, they're not exactly getting the education that you think they might be getting in many cases.
Well, it's up to the individual person.
It's like you made the comment the other day about, you know, you never worked 40 hours a week in your life.
If I work 40 hours, it's because I took three days off.
You know, and I understand it's, you know, you strive for perfection and settle for excellence, and you have to push yourself to be better.
Don't settle for mediocrity.
You know, and that's what you got to get something out of what you put into these time at school.
So, but anyway, but yeah, I absolutely agree.
They're getting rich and something needs to happen.
But at the same time, they need to do more with the education they could be getting.
But the reason I called John, Mayor Bass and all this cash she's handing out, you know, one thing we've learned, you cannot trust politicians with cash, especially when it's unregulated.
I mean, if loading up billions of dollars on a runway in Iraq didn't teach us anything, you know, that, you know, of what happens with that money, you know, how much of this is going to wind up in her personal coffers for her to use?
We don't know.
And it won't do that.
You know, I'm not saying she's a criminal, but I'm just saying the propensity to misuse free cash like that is too great, especially when they're just throwing it around to try to make a point to be on the right.
This is insane.
I mean, this is what the Democratic Party, I keep saying, has become.
They champion the right of men to play women's sports.
They put the rights of illegal immigrants that don't respect our laws, borders, sovereignty over the safety and security of citizens in this country.
Their priorities are all screwed up.
In New York, they're paying for lawyers to sue the government.
Great.
They're suing the taxpayers.
They're hurting our school system.
They're overwhelming it with kids that are in the country illegally, the children of illegal immigrants.
They're overwhelming our medical system and our hospital system and our health care system.
They're overwhelming our criminal justice system.
And it's costing this country hundreds of billions of dollars to deal with it.
And I'm sorry, but I put the rights of Americans ahead of those people that didn't go through the process legally.
Every time they should, Americans should be put first.
And then, hey, if they want to be Americans, great.
Go through, register, learn to speak English, and then contribute with taxes to our system.
Just do it legally.
I don't care where you come from.
Do it legally.
Thank you, David.
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Back to our busy phones as we say hi to Mario in New Jersey.
What's up, Mario?
How you doing?
What's going on?
You know, you know, Sean, I'm actually, I have a home in Fort Myers, but I do the six-month and a day thing.
So I'm in New Jersey.
By the way, the six-month and a day thing is a crock.
I'm telling you, right, for people that are going to make the move to Florida, that's not exactly how it works because, well, I can tell you the state of New York that they don't judge it by six month and a day.
You know, the criteria is so subjective.
You just have to, look, I hired enough lawyers and accountants when I moved because I knew they'd be coming after me.
And I'm just telling you, I had to cut all ties with New York and stay out of the state.
And I do.
And I don't do business in the state.
I do have an accounting background as well as a finance background.
But the reason for my call wasn't so much about how much greater Florida is.
I'm coming down in 10 days.
The reason for my call is because, Sean, I watch you.
I'm a loyal listener.
I watch your show at night.
And, you know, I just got some constructive criticism.
I kind of like, don't like the fact that everybody's all over Jerome Powell to lower interest rates.
He sucks.
He's awful.
Go ahead.
No, but listen, Sean, let's go back to 10 years.
Let's go back to 2008 with the Obama years when they did quantitative easing and they maintained interest rates so low that it put banks in what we call this crisis mode.
Now, you know, I agree with Trump with the tariffs.
I'm all about the tariffs.
That was the Community Reinvestment Act.
That was Bill Clinton's fault.
And they lowered the standards in terms of home lending monies for people that never would have qualified.
That's where the banking crisis came into effect.
But Sean, there was also a banking crisis, if you recall, when Biden was president, because what they did is they lowered interest rates so low that what happened.
I'm not saying to lower them so low.
I'm saying they're artificially high.
And I think it's because Jerome Powell has a personal animus towards Donald Trump.
So you're going to.
I'm just on the clock, but I hear what you're saying.