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DOGE Lives On - June 12th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, well, if there might be a last ditch effort here as it relates to Iran, certainly they have been given every opportunity to dismantle their nuclear facilities.
They are the country, the number one state sponsor of terror.
They have repeatedly threatened to wipe Israel off the map.
Death to Israel, death to America.
They have threatened repeatedly to hit the continental United States.
nuclear negotiations for Sunday.
Iran is vowing even to rebuild their nuclear sites if Israel takes them out.
Now, the president yesterday wouldn't say an attack by Israel on Iran was imminent, but warned it could happen.
I don't want to say They've been given every chance they have.
They don't need nuclear power.
Now, when you marry, and this this is where it gets controversial for some people, but not for me.
Because when you have people that say things like they're gonna wipe you off the face of the earth, when you have the number one state sponsor of terror, the people that organized the October 7th attack, and that would include the Cudz forces, Iranian Revolutionary Guard, they provided the weaponry to Hamas.
Uh they killed what was the equivalent of 40,000 Americans in a day when you extrapolate out Israel's population and compare it to America's population.
They have been funding Hezbollah, they have been funding Islamic Jihad, they have been funding the Houthi rebels, they have been sowing nothing but you know uh insanity in the region uh and discord in the region, and they have been killing indiscriminately, and they are now, according to every source I have and every published reports, they are within a month of being able to have weapons grade uh uranium.
They're now they they now are at 60 percentile to get to 90 percent is just a a couple of weeks.
It seems like, and they are reporting and bragging about their delivery systems, uh, which are getting longer and longer and longer.
And that means the longer you wait, that means the the Iranians have that many more options and an ability to maybe even overwhelm in Israel, the Iron Dome.
And now we're talking about a threat to their very survival.
And so, where, when, how, I don't know, but it seems to be the tensions are rising, and clearly, you know, uh the Iranians are steadfast in their commitment to wipe Israel off the map.
Now, are you really willing to allow Iranian mullahs that are threatening the destruction of our our our ally, Israel, uh, and threatening the continental United States to get weapons of mass destruction based on their current history.
This is not a question like Iraq.
And by the way, nor do I think that this is gonna be anything like a war in Iraq because it's going, as I have said, future generation of weaponry.
You know, we're gonna fight wars in air-conditioned buildings by pushing buttons.
And and you see a lot of that has been unfolding in the Ukrainian and and Russia war that's taken place.
Anyway, joining us now to weigh in on the dangers and the situation as it's unfolding.
Uh we welcome back to the program.
Aaron Cohn, an Israeli trained career special ops and intelligence veteran who has served in the counterterrorism space now for over two decades.
Uh well, I'm just reading the tea leaves like you are, but it seems to be that the Iranians have now boxed themselves into a corner and they have rejected any and all opportunities to have a peaceful resolution to this this crisis, and the world, I don't think can risk a modern day Holocaust, because that's what we'd be facing.
Sean, good to be back on with you.
Um you nailed it.
Uh Iran is painting themselves into a corner, and this is the closest we're getting to a full scale strike by Israel on Iran.
Israel doesn't have the luxury to not stay ahead of these threats.
And this isn't going to be warning shots, Sean.
This will be a full spectrum military operation.
We're talking about F-35s, Israel's F 15s flying deep into Iranian uh air space, drone decoys, uh jamming devices to punch through that Russian-made rusty air defense, those targets underground enrichment sites, which you and I have spoken about before on your show, Natans, Fordal, Isfahan, these are hardened, and these are deeply buried facilities.
And Iran's been hiding them or trying to hide them for a long time, but Israel, nobody's better at getting that intelligence in real time.
And I wouldn't be surprised if BB and Trump have been having conversations saying, hey, it's time to get this thing going, because here's where this Iran's program is really at.
So that means Mossad is very active.
Uh uh, and you know, not just analysts here.
I'm talking about sabotage units who have been active in that country for years, and Israel spent over a decade, Sean, preparing for this, and they've got it, they've got I wouldn't be surprised if they have Iran's entire nuclear archive.
Uh that's how good I know they are.
And they've mapped these targets, these assets have been embedded for years, uh, and the chessboard is set.
So here's what changes.
Uh Trump in the White House knows that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
You and I have hit that multiple times, and I don't think that he's gonna tie Israel's hands.
I really don't.
And he understands the threat and what that means to the United States, not just the U.S. but the world.
Iran cannot go nuclear.
So I think conversations are happening with Bibi, his generals and CENTCOM, uh, and that's why the U.S. embassies are being evacuated, and I think the entire region needs to brace for a strike.
You know, don't forget the Gulf, quietly when those Sunni powers, uh uh Saudi Arabia, by the way, wants this too.
Uh uh, they just they just they're they're they're a friend to the United States and they're quietly a friend to Israel.
And I wouldn't be surprised if if Mohammed bin Salman opens up that airspace, they may share a little bit of intel.
Nobody can allow Iran to cross that nuclear threshold.
Can we be very honest here?
It's not just Saudi Arabia, it's all the Gulf states.
They they they all fear Iran, which is why I I I think if these sites are ever taken out, my prediction would be that all of those countries and Egypt and Jordan will sign the Abraham Accords, and there will be peace in the region.
Everybody fears Iran.
None of these countries want anything to do with them, but they do fear them because they've been so aggressive in in the their acts of terror against every country p imaginable, and they've created more enemies, and I think a lot of these countries in the middle of the they're all sick of them too.
Sean, nobody wants a war with Iran, not the Gulf states, not the but this this is what's necessary.
You're nailing it.
And Iran has pushed too far for too long.
And they're and enriching uranium to weapons grade.
They've lied about it, they've stalled, they've built undergrounds and armored terror groups across the region, Houthis, Hamas, all these groups, and now uh they're going for the bomb.
And the intel from Israel's not gonna lie.
So what's coming could be a potential full spectrum Israeli operation.
And I think that everybody is gonna owe it to the let's game that out.
Let's say the now the Israelis, my understanding has always been from my sources, is that they need the United States.
They need bunker buster bombs, and that that would be very critical for them.
Otherwise, my understanding has always been that Israel, you know, tactically would have to use a nuke to do it themselves.
Do you believe that they could do it without a tactical nuke?
I believe that they can.
I believe that Israel has got the strat uh the the between the bunker busters, the the intelligence assets on the grounds.
All of the information that they've been building over the last decade, uh, including the cyber and the signal and the abil and the ability to infiltrate the uh the tech to jam and to dump in a ton of viruses.
I think that first wave will be selective.
But if Israel needs to escalate, Sean, it will.
Uh, but I believe it's going to be layered.
I think it's going to be one big monster, uh, multi-layered, uh uh, and then tactical nuclear, can't speak to that uh uh uh publicly, but I wouldn't be surprised if Israel's got that as a backup option.
However, I think it'll be a little more selective, and I think it'll be signaling messaging, and let's cut off Iran's ability for any of those sites to be able to continue their program.
That's where I'm at with that.
Okay, but does Israel have the bunker buster capability?
I think that Israel does.
I think Israel got a big armed shipment that came as soon as Trump got into office, and I think that they can reach pretty deep to slow down the Iranians for this uh uh for this first part.
Um how deep the capabilities uh go, I can't speak to that because I'm not cleared.
Well they've already they already showed back in April a year ago that they can penetrate their air defense systems easily and and go deep into Iranian territory.
Um now, let me ask you this question.
Let's say the Israelis launch this operation.
You g you've got to game it out and figure out well, what is the response gonna be?
I would imagine that the Iranians will will probably begin an onslaught, maybe with the help of Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis of missiles being fired at Israel too, and and maybe more than than Israel has ever had to withstand in the past.
Uh Israel's got to be prepared for that.
Uh, hopefully they know where their missile batteries are and they can take those things out too.
It's a good question, Sean.
And if Israel hits Iran, the the the retaliation is guaranteed.
But I don't and and I agree with you, it's gonna be the proxies, uh uh Hezbollah, uh, whatever assets are left.
I think there we're gonna see some rockets coming from that region, not necessarily uh uh Lebanon because the uh dent that Israel has put in there, but I think I think whatever's left in uh uh with the Houthis, I think that's gonna start getting lit up.
I think, Sean, that the cyber from Israel uh uh will start getting really, really hot.
I think that um first of all, Sean, Israel's comfortable in this multi-frontier.
And I think that northern commands with pre-cleared strike packages, which is what we call it, is going to go after the remainder of the Hezbollah rocket stockpiles and all of the intel that Israel has on the Houthis.
I think it's gonna give Israel the ability to be able to smash Gaza with a final barrage.
And then there's also I just Israel's real edge, Sean, is that they're gonna they're built to absorb that first wave and then adapt and dismantle whatever launch platforms they're coming from.
Um, but it's gonna get ugly, Sean, and it's not gonna be one-sided.
And Iran wants that war to stretch out, so Israel's gonna preempt Houthis, anything coming out of Gaza, anything coming out of Syria or Iraq, and any remaindered launch sites that are in uh Lebanon.
So it's gonna just be a monster blitz to get ahead of all of that with uh offense being the key defense here.
And so again, this is in waves.
This is in layers.
That's where Israel's strength is.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Aaron Cohn, an Israeli trained career special ops and intelligence veteran who served in the counterterrorism space for over two decades.
Uh then we'll t check in with Newt Gingrich on the other side uh of the bottom of the hour break as we continue.
All right, we continue now.
Aaron Cohn is with us and Israeli trained career special ops intelligence veteran who has served in the counterterrorism space now for over two decades.
What do you say to those people that say, well, the this is our not our fight?
I I think that is beyond naive to not understand the threat, the existential threat that Iran brings to not only Israel, the entire Middle East and the entire world, coupled with their, you know, convert or die sick ideology and their history of being the number one state sponsor of terrorism.
Because they've declared war on the world, basically.
Sean, here's what I say to anyone who says this isn't our fight.
I say that's i naive.
Uh naive.
Get your head out of your uh tokas.
Iran's been in our fight for decades here in the United States.
They've killed American soldiers uh in Iraq.
They funded terror cells from Argentina to New York.
They're behind Hezbollah, they're behind Hamas and the Houthis.
And all of whom chant death to America.
Anyone can pull that footage.
As loud as they chant death to Israel.
So you let Iran go nuclear, and it doesn't just threaten Tel Aviv, but it destabilizes the entire world, talking about oil routes choked.
Proxy wars continue to explode, not to mention who knows how many assassins are running around in the United States, Sean.
You've always spoken to that nobody else has, who've been let into this country.
Uh so the terror attacks end up going global.
And guess who's behind it all?
It's Iran.
It's always been Iran, and it's the U.S. that's going to be this major target.
If Israel takes out Iran's nukes, they're not just protecting Israel.
They're buying the Americans time, and they're doing the job that Noah has to spine to do.
So, yeah, it's our fight also here in the States.
Because if the first missile flies in the Middle East, the next one's gonna go to Miami.
So you don't wait for fire to reach the porch.
You know, Americans need to understand that.
You have to help your forward operating base and ally, which is Israel, put out that fire before it spreads.
It's a cancer, and it's spreading.
And it's uh I've been saying in the days leading up, you know, to where we are today that it's like a minute to midnight, and they just keep refusing uh to join the civilized world, and it is a risk that the world can't have.
It just is.
Uh Aaron Cohn, prayers with everybody involved in this.
Hopefully they'll have a change of heart.
So far, they uh have shown no indication that they will.
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Uh we do have a lot of news.
It keeps breaking.
I know we're following the madness, and we expect a lot of it this weekend.
They're planning multiple, about 30 some odd or 35 was the last I counted, 35 separate instances of this insane protesting that's been going on around the country.
You know, God forbid ice ice actually enforces the laws of our land.
God forbid they remove murderers and child molesters and gang members and other violent criminals.
You know, there's there's a reason for the left to melt down and and fight back and and blame Donald Trump as if it was Donald Trump who left the borders wide open.
Uh we have known terrorists in the country, gang members in the country.
We have cartel members in the country, and we have no murderers and rapists.
I keep scrolling all the names and victims of people in California.
And we had this beatdown, which I played earlier in the program of Lisa Fonick.
I mean, she just destroyed New York Governor Kathy Holkle, who just it just came off looking like a a total complete idiot in that exchange.
Uh we continue our discussion.
Uh headlines now all over the place.
Israel considering striking Iran.
Uh it could be any day.
The U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem has been bracing for this.
Uh Tehran has stepped up new enrichment we're discovering.
Uh U.S. uh is preparing for the evacuations, apparently ongoing.
The UK has issued a rare warning about such.
Central Command Chief has postponed the Senate testimony.
The IDF is on high alert.
Tehran is testing or having a test of missiles with two-ton warheads.
And it looks like the Iranians, as we've been reporting regularly, have completely and utterly rejected every offer of peace in the region uh that Donald Trump has put out there, and now the world is given a choice.
Either we allowed the number one state sponsor of terror that has promised to wipe Israel and the U.S. off the map, or we roll the dice and risk a modern day Holocaust.
So what's the answer?
Anyway, we welcome back to the program.
Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, he has his new best-selling book that has just come out.
Uh, and by the way, it is one of his best books.
I gotta tell you, I've read a cover to cover, Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback.
Uh, Mr. Speaker, uh, it looks very real to me as an outsider.
Your thoughts.
Yeah, well, let me say this for a second.
We're very proud because uh Trump's Triumph is now number four on the New York Times list.
And you know, imagine a book that has Trump in the title and Gingrich is the author, and the Times still had to put in the list.
Made me feel pretty good.
Look, I by the way, they they do everything they can do to not put conservative books on that list, just for the record, and I know firsthand, but and I've I've I've made it to number one a number of times, but I'm just telling you, they they you have to like outperform by like tenfold.
Yep, no, so we felt very good last night when we learned that.
But look, I I think Israel has been, and Netanyahu has been very clear with the president that Israel is not going to take the risk of a nuclear-armed Iran with a dictatorship which says the death to Israel and death to America are policies.
And I think they've made very clear that if he if he can get to a negotiated deal, fine.
But in the end, there'll come a line, and if they conclude that the Iranians are not going to agree, they're gonna hit him.
And I I would not be at all surprised in the next 72 hours, uh, to see an all-out uh Israeli assault.
They they proved a couple months ago that they could penetrate the air defense space.
They sent uh aircraft up there, did not lose a single plane, uh, and took apart the Russian provided anti-aircraft systems.
And I think they're very confident that they they they probably can't do the level of damage that we can do because they don't have the kind of strategic bombers we have, but they can do a lot of damage.
They can put the program back by probably ten years or more.
Uh and I think that it's very, very likely we're gonna do that.
And that's gonna pose a real crisis.
Um I personally believe that until we replace the regime, uh that it's gonna be a permanent danger to all of us, that the biggest sponsor of terrorism, uh they aggressively and openly say they want to destroy the United States and they want to destroy Israel.
And I think you ought to take them at face value.
They mean what they say.
What do you say?
I mean there are some people that support Donald Trump.
Oh, we don't need to get in any war or involve ourselves in any way and I'm I'm I'm puzzled by it.
And they might refer to for example uh the bad intelligence that we had in terms of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and and that I that's a fair argument.
The only problem with this one here is they're stating it.
They're stating it very publicly the IAEA has confirmed that they've not been abiding by the nuclear pro uh proliferation treaty that they agreed to.
Uh that just came out in the last twenty four hours and it it i i i th they are now according to every source I have at sixty percent enrichment.
That means they're only weeks away from ninety percent which is nuclear grade enrichment which means they'll have the bomb which means that with a delivery system they are in nuclear power.
Once they get there, we can't go backwards.
So the question is it seems like it's one minute to midnight and either we decide to protect the world at this point or we risk a modern day Holocaust.
That's that's the choice to me.
I'm not willing to risk a modern day Holocaust I prefer that they would have just gone along with the peace deal and my understanding is the United States even said they'll they'll lift sanctions if they give up their nuclear ambition.
Oh I think that's right.
I don't I don't think we you know an Iran which agreed not to ever go nuclear uh would be a very distant threat to us but in Iran which gave once nuclear weapons is an immediate threat.
You know, President Franklin Dona Roosevelt in nineteen forty one uh in trying to explain the Nazi danger said if if you see a rattlesnake uh you don't have to wait for him to strike uh before you decide to do something.
Uh you certainly don't have to wait for him to strike five, six or seven times.
Well the Iranians have proven over and over again that they want to destroy Israel uh that they want to kill Americans uh and uh their operatives have probably killed more Americans remembering also that that uh the the fact is that these are people who have been methodically trying to uh defeat the United States all across the region.
Now I do think if if they get bombed there likely to be some consequences and they're likely to try to lash out.
But if I if I were the Israelis, uh I would feel like I had no choice uh that that uh you could never be the prime minister who allowed the Iranians to get nuclear weapons.
I mean it just you I don't I but I would take it a step further.
I don't think you can be the president.
Now I would argue and maybe you would disagree with this the only reason that they've been able to foment terror is because Joe Biden uh allowed them turned a blind eye to the sanctions that were bankrupting that country and as a result of him turning a blind eye they have taken in tens and hundreds of billions of dollars.
He even gave specific waivers for for you know billions and billions of dollars in oil money for them and they have used that money to fund Hezbollah and Hamas and Islamic jihad and the Houthi rebels and foment terror in the entire region.
So you know that they they are already at war with the Western world.
And now it's a matter of what role should the U.S. play in this I think we've got to defend our ally Israel and prevent them from ever getting a nuclear weapon.
And I'm not saying that there's that we don't risk a cost here.
I don't think this is a risk free mission.
There's no such thing as a risk-free military mission.
Well remember as only as 1983 it was an Iranian operative who kill two hundred and some Marines in Lebanon.
So their their war against the United States has deep roots is very real and has cost a lot of lives.
And uh they they they uh killed Americans at Cobar Tower in nineteen I think ninety five um th this this is a regime which has been doing everything it can to undermine and drive the United States out of the region.
It is a regime which has unrelenting hostility and deserted destroy Israel.
And when Trump was president the first time uh by killing Soleimani, the general who was in charge of the Iranian uh Republican Guard and then by really hitting them very hard with very steep sanctions, uh he basically got the regime just go sort of into hibernation.
They did not do very much after the death of Soleimani, uh, and I think that they began to run out of money.
The Biden administration was insane on this as on so many other things, uh, and basically revived an enemy who we had begun to defeat uh and allowed that enemy uh to rebuild their capabilities and to rebuild their economy.
And now we've got to do something about it.
And you know, it's it's later.
I mean, they had four extra years to try to prepare, and I think uh from from Netanyahu's standpoint, they literally have no time to waste.
Uh and they've been patient and they've been waiting for us to get the job done.
Uh and I think there are some circumstances uh where President Trump might feel compelled uh to to use American combat power uh to reinforce the Israelis.
So we'll see how the next three or four days work out.
But my personal guess is uh that it will start uh with an all-out uh Israeli assault uh aimed at taking out the nuclear capability uh and doing it in a way that's it's very, very decisive.
Quick break, we'll come right back more with former Speaker of the House, New Gingrich.
By the way, congratulations to the speaker, his new book just out, a huge New York Times bestseller, Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback, uh Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores around the country.
Uh we'll come back.
We'll continue more with Newton on the other side straight ahead.
We continue with former speaker of the House Newt Kingrich.
By the way, congratulations, his book, Trump's Tri U Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback.
Uh now officially a top New York Times bestseller, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere.
You know, I I've gotten mixed messages from different people and different sources about whether or not it's not that Israel doesn't have the capability.
They they have tactical nukes, so that would certainly be an option if they needed to go alone.
Uh, but whether or not they have the bunker buster bombs because these things are built so deep into the ground and there's been some fortification of these sites, uh, that they seem to be that would be the the more that would be the ideal choice is to take out those facilities that way.
Let's assume we do all of this or or they're involved, or maybe there's some involvement of the U.S. Uh Israel has gotta expect that they're gonna come back with a fierce response, and I imagine that they've game that out and they've got to be ready for that too.
I'm not sure how much of a fierce response they can do.
I mean, they can fire you know they can fire all of their weapons.
They've got thousands of missiles.
We they've shown a willingness to fire ballistic missiles at Israel, but the Iron Dome was able to protect them.
The last the last time they did it, um, you know, the fact is I think ninety-two percent or ninety-four percent uh were shot down.
Uh and I think the level of chaos that that an all-out Israeli attack would also include taking out a lot of their missiles.
Uh and again, I think it's a calculated risk.
If you're sitting there and you're thinking, All right, do I want to wait until they can put nuclear weapons on those missiles?
Uh or do I want to hit them now and and put their probably put their program back by at least ten years.
Uh well, I think that's a reasonable start.
And frankly, I my hunch is that the Israelis have solved the bunker buster bomb problem.
They don't have um uh high speed aircraft that could carry a bunker buster, but they could use uh C 130s if they wanted to.
Uh once once they cleared the airspace so that there's no anti-air defense, you c you could come in uh with bunker busters uh in in a basically a tactical transport plane and just put he just shoved them out the back.
Uh but you also frankly get the equivalent of a bunker buster bomb if you hit it five, six, seven, eight times.
So uh but this is this is not gonna be a ground war.
This is not gonna be Iraq.
This is gonna be missiles fired in every direction, and I think that's what that that's the next generation of warfare that I've been saying that they'll be fought in air-conditioned offices.
Look, look, we'll want to try to conquer Iran.
But we do want to blow up their nuclear capability.
Yeah.
Well, um I couldn't be uh happier and uh more proud of you.
Uh now a huge best uh New York Times best selling book, which I mean had to literally uh give adjusta to everybody at the New York Times.
Uh congratulations, Trump's triumph, America's greatest comeback.
It's on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores around the country, uh former speaker of the House, New Kingrich, who are going to be watching these next seventy-two hours.
Obviously, this is in play.
Uh, we appreciate your time, sir.
Talk to you soon.
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