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If you want to be a part of the program, I have been fortunate enough to get a galley copy of Newt Ingrich's new book.
It is out next Tuesday.
And it is called Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback.
And I look, I've said this many, many times before is that I got to know Newt in 1990 when I was a local radio host in Alabama.
And then I spent four years when he became Speaker as a local radio host in Atlanta from ninety-two to ninety-six before I went to Fox News in ninety-six.
And so we have been friends, frankly, brothers ever since then.
And I had the honor of him seeing the night that he became Speaker of the House, a night of my life that I'll never forget, an honor that I'll never forget.
Um was the last speaker to balance the budget.
They did it what, four or five years in a row, and it's not been balanced since.
Now he has written, I think, what is the definitive book on Donald Trump and this incredible historical comeback, and it's called Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback.
It is available now on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores uh as of Tuesday around the country.
And by the way, if you live in New Jersey, uh, you can go see our friend Newt.
Uh he's gonna be uh doing a book signing at Bookends in Ridgewood on Ridgewood Avenue in New Jersey at six o'clock.
We'll remind you next Tuesday, and you should go out and see him.
I've been to Bookends for a number of my books, and it's such a great bookstore.
It's such a great place and great people.
I know I kid around about New York and New Jersey accents, but that's only because I don't live in New York or New Jersey anymore and pay high taxes like I used to.
Anyway, it's always an honor and privilege and pleasure to welcome back the former speaker of the house, New Kingrich.
Um I wrong in my description of you that you uh in your heart of hearts, that you are a professor, a historian, and and really deep down you are you know, you're one of the three legs of conservatism in the modern era, Reagan being one, you being two, and Trump being three.
Well, I'm I I probably would use the word teacher more than sounds pretty high absolutely.
But look, I love learning.
I love sharing what I learned.
And uh, you know, we've had we've had such a long time, a little scary actually.
Uh we've known each other, I think now like 35 years.
Um why is that scary?
That makes me feel bad.
I'm I'm triggered, I'm triggered by that.
Yeah, triggered.
Well, then I take it back.
Uh I'm only kidding.
Go ahead.
No, I'm thrilled we've known each other that long.
Um and eminent it's such a fact.
I was uh just doing something about Gamar Cowper a while ago.
I said, you know, one of the great advantages that you have, we were talking about the people who made the modern era, and I cited you and Rush and Roger Ayles and said, you know, nobody in the elite media realizes the impact that the three of you have had.
And I talked about the fact that you have this unique um thirty-year-plus relationship with Trump, which allows you to have honest conversations with him that very, very few people can have.
Uh and uh, you know, you and I have been a team trying to get America away from the left and and back on the track of uh historic American values uh for a generation now, and I I I think it's working.
I mean, I I'm I'm very optimistic.
I don't know if you saw the I did a newsletter at uh Universe 360 the other day pointing out that this week we've had three polls, not one, three, uh, that have said one said for the first time in the history of Rasmussen, uh 50% of the country now believes we're on the right track.
Uh and the and the chief holster over there said he was shocked.
He never ever in his lifetime thought it would get to 50, and now it is.
And then first time in 29 years.
Isn't that amazing?
And then our good our good friend Matt Towery uh uh told me that uh uh his poll now indicates uh that Trump's above fifty percent of approval.
And that's a fifth in the Trump in the Towery poll, insider advantage is at 55% approval.
Yeah, and then uh democracy uh Institute.
The democracy institute initiative report, and they said they asked the question, do you think he's helping fix things?
He has a 14-point advantage that what he's doing is helping fix things.
Uh and all those keep that I I did a newsletter because uh have those three polls at the same time tells me that the country is resonant despite every effort of uh the networks and New York Times and Washington Post and what have you, the country's resonating to having an American president who loves the country, who's taking tough stands, and who is uh unendingly energetic.
You know, if i it really I use the words, you know, returning or restoring constitutional order.
I use the words consequential, transformational.
I mean, for Republicans, I mean uh uh let's take the this one big beautiful bill.
And it's not perfect, but it does secure the borders in perpetuity.
It will help remove criminal illegals, it will lead America towards energy dominance, it will create the next generation of weaponry, which we desperately need, and we've fallen way behind on.
There is that gap of vulnerability that very similar to what Reagan inherited.
Uh it also does other transformational things with law and order and crime and and education in America, but there's nothing that Donald Trump is doing, including seeking peace in the Middle East and in Europe, that is not massive.
Everything that is out of the box.
He is the disruptor, he is an iconoclast.
I remember once you gave a speech and you said, I am a genuine revolutionary, and you were in the or in your time.
And Trump is now in his time.
And I see a lot of comparisons.
Well, I mean, look, I think that's part of why we resonate so well, because uh he is as you point out earlier with the reference to Reagan, me and Trump, we are all moving the country away from the nutcake values of the left back to the historically invaluable insights of the founding fathers.
Uh and Trump understood that the and I think we need to start talking about the Obama-Biden system.
It wasn't just Biden.
We'd had from from 2009 on, we'd had this steady effort to move us to the left, uh, briefly interrupted by Trump for four years.
Uh and we were in real danger of losing America as we've known it.
I mean, these people, as we now know, we watched the fight at Harvard.
Uh, these people were committed to a sick, uh, I think corrupt uh and in many ways weird system, uh, and they were prepared to impose it on the rest of us if they could get away with it.
And frankly, part of the reason I wrote uh Trump's triumph, America's greatest comeback, is is to make the point that this this was a victory of a man and a movement both.
This wasn't just Trump, but this was millions of Americans spontaneously thinking, you know, I've had enough.
I want somebody who has the guts and the drive and the smarts uh to change things, and the only guy available is Donald Trump.
Explain what you mean by America's greatest comeback, because uh you as a historian for you to say that th those words resonate for me.
Well, I'll give you two very, very different examples.
In 2019, or no, 2021, Calista and I were in Decora, Iowa, she'd gone to Luther College, small town, eastern Iowa.
We're walking down Main Street, and there's a there's a storefront uh for Trump.
That was not a campaign event, not paid for by anybody else.
The local people had just put it up because they were so deeply committed to him.
Um and and it was a grassroots movement that didn't depend on him, uh, except that he was the symbol, he was the inspiration, but they were doing it on their own.
The other example is is uh what's happening with SpaceX.
Uh SpaceX this year will launch over 90% of all the satellites in the world that'll be launched by everybody.
Uh, and it's because you had this amazing entrepreneur who invented a reusable rockets, has already brought the cost down by ninety percent, and when they finally get the the uh their big rocket to work, the starship, uh, it'll bring it down another down to about five percent of what it used to cost.
And the starship will lift a hundred people or a hundred and fifty tons of cargo per flight.
So instead of thinking like getting the moon with two people, we we could take seventy-five or a hundred people.
Uh I mean, these these are breakthroughs that that surround Trump and they they strengthen Trump, but they're not dependent on him, except to the degree that we stop the left from screwing them up.
You know what the amazing thing is is, you know, you you you're very kind to mention me in the same sentence as as Rush and Roger.
Uh I I don't think I'm in their league to be very frank.
Um and and but putting that aside, what is so stunning to me is the death of legacy media.
You saw the speech Scott Pelley gave, the commencement address that he gave over the weekend, and he claims to be a journalist.
He's not.
You see fake Jake Tapper, you know, th over at CNN, they didn't cover Joe Biden's cognitive decline.
All these issues over the years, from starting with Richard Jewell to Duke LaCrosse to Ferguson, Missouri, to Freddie Gray, um, to the Russia collusion to the Pfizer abuse to the valuation of Mar a Lago to Alvin Bragg, Letitia James.
We end up getting all these stories right.
The media gets them all wrong, and now they threw everything they had at Donald Trump and it didn't work.
And I have declared, I declared in two thousand seven journalism's dead, and after this election, I've I said legacy media is dead.
Do you agree with that?
Yeah, I I think it's it's uh decaying so rapidly.
Uh and of course, I mean, probably his speech was uh just an embarrassment.
I mean, you I recently went to my granddaughter and grandson's two commencements at uh Davidson uh over the last three years.
And you know, you're at a commencement, they're graduating, and the parents feel good, the grandparents feel good, the students feel good, and this guy comes out and basically just vomits on everybody.
I mean, his speech was so negative, so hateful, uh, that you know CBS ought to fire him summarily, uh just so biased.
He says he's a journalist.
He's he's a left-wing radical leftist democratic talk show host.
He's not a he's not a journalist.
That's what infuriates me.
Well, but what's happening is all of those institutions are losing power.
I mean, the New York Times, the Washington Post, ABC, NBC, CBS, you know, MSNBC, I'm not sure anybody who even watches uh you know CNN anymore.
I mean, they're all They don't.
I I I do think but I want to say two two quick things you may not agree with.
One, you are wrong.
You are in the same pantheon as Rush Limbaugh and Roger Ayles.
I watched your career, I know how big your audience is, I know how hard you work and how dedicated you are, and you are one of the great leaders of the last 20 years at saving this country.
Two, uh, I think that uh we ought to recognize that these people are all disappearing.
I mean, you you go out and and and look at how many people get their news from sources other than what used to be important, and I do think that the Jake Tapper deserves some kind of award uh for the most hypocritically dishonest act in recent times.
I mean, for him to write a book about the cover up of Biden without recognizing that he was one of the chief guys covering it up.
I mean, it's an amazing act of Hutzpah to have him out here with this book.
I'm sure he'll make money out of it, and I congratulate him as a as a somebody who believes in free enterprise, but it is so totally hypocritical that it it's it's embarrassing.
Well, now he's out there criticizing Letitia James and Alvin Bregg.
I'm like, yeah, welcome to the club.
All right, quick break more with New King Rich's brand new book is out Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback, uh, now uh available on Amazon.com in bookstores Tuesday, all across the country.
He will be at Bookends in Ridgewood, uh 21 Ridgewood Avenue in New Jersey, six o'clock on June 3rd.
That's next Tuesday.
You definitely want a copy of this book.
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All right, we continue now with New Kingrich.
He has his new book out.
It is called Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback, uh, available now, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, available in bookstores around the country as of Tuesday.
He's doing a book signing, 6 p.m.
211 Ridgewood Avenue in New Jersey.
You don't want to miss that if you are in the Ridgewood area.
It's a great, great bookstore.
I've been there a number of times signing books myself.
Uh Bookends, you'll love it.
Uh, we continue with the former speaker.
What do you make of the Biden cover-up, both internally, the threat to the country, the use of autopen, the media's deafening silence?
We have a minute.
I think the biggest question is who was actually running the government.
I'll just give you one example.
There are over 2400 commutations signed on one day in January after the election.
Twenty, four hundred.
Now, who decided on those 2400?
Who was involved in the decision process?
It certainly wasn't Joe Biden.
Uh, and who gave the instructions to the per to the person who had the automatic pen that signed the name because it certainly wasn't Joe Biden.
And I think if you were to dig into the totality, starting in 2023, when clearly he began to be cognitively impaired, the number of decisions made by people who were illegally behaving as though they were president, I think will be breathtaking.
I think it already is.
I think it is the biggest, greatest White House scandal, presidential scandal.
Uh maybe in history.
You know, uh maybe Woodrow Wilson is uh a close second.
Uh but the fact that they knew all of it, they hid all of it, they lied about all of it.
I want to know who knew what when who knew what, when did they know it, and and who was in charge?
Because I don't believe it was Joe.
And that's that is uh you talk uh talk about a threat to democracy.
Look, the book is phenomenal.
I urge everyone to get a their copy.
You can get there's a link right now to Amazon on Hannity.com or just go to Amazon.com.
It is called Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback, authored by Newt Gingrich.
If you're in New Joycey, please go to Bookend's Tuesday, this coming Tuesday, June the third, 6 p.m.
And uh Newt will be there signing copies of his book.
It's on Ridgewood Avenue to 11 Ridgewood Avenue in New Jersey.
Mr. Speaker, thank you for being my friend.
I don't accept your kind words, but uh I appreciate them and appreciate your friendship and appreciate all you always do for our country.
Thank you, sir.
Well, it's great being with you.
800 941 Shauna's on number you want to be a part of the program.
Linda, you're gonna love this story.
You ready?
And I know you didn't say that.
That usually means I'm not gonna love it.
San Francisco's public school chief announced a grading for equity plan.
The new grading system will award scores as low as 41 on a hundred point test with a C grade, according to the voice of San Francisco.
Now, students with a score as low as twenty-one out of a hundred, they will pass the exam with a D grade, according to the Washington Free Beacon.
And the superintendent of schools unveiled the plan without seeking approval from the San Francisco Board of Education.
And off the press, they said in an ex post the program eliminates homework from final grades, and it eliminates the toll of weekly tests on a student's grade.
I wish I went.
I wish this system was in place when I went to school.
I I barely showed up as it is, but I had to show up on test days.
Anyway, grades for the entire semester rely on the final exam.
Now the free beacon, 80 or above on a hundred-point exam, you get an A. If you on an 80.
An eighty was a low C when I was in school.
And I think this is great.
They're giving kids exactly what they want, and and I think this is really gonna improve their quality of their education.
Well, I'll tell you straight face.
The beautiful thing about this is that it was rejected on a bipartisan scale.
As you're talking about this, I had to look it up.
I'm like, that's gotta be fake news.
Gotta be Babylon B. And it looks like in the last couple of hours, people started freaking out in the community.
They're like, "All right, liberals and conservatives together." We're like, "It's a bridge too far.
We're done.
This is not a thing." Mm-hmm.
I remember like uh the there was a fireman test in New York City FDMY at one point.
Three out of the four answers that you would give would would be right and only one answer would be wrong.
You couldn't flunk that test if you just raced through and guessed, you'd still probably get a passing grade and get and pass the test.
It's just pathetic.
I mean, the last thing that you want is somebody failing a test when your life is gonna depend on it.
It's like they're doing this at medical schools now.
It's like where is meritocracy?
Like at some point we have to say like this is a bad this is not the this is not a good decision.
We're making a wrong term.
By the way, a faction of democratic socialists uh of America is now praising the DC killing of those two Israeli diplomats, a fringe faction of democratic socialists of America.
This was in the New York Post, praising the murder of two Israeli diplomats outside of Washington, D.C. and the museum there, the Jewish museum, and lionizing the suspected killer, Elliot Rodriguez.
What is this obsession with praising killers in this cult of of the hard radical left, you know, like this Luigi Mangioni?
This this is sick stuff.
It really is sick.
And by the way, what's even more sick is that they spend more time with the criminals than they do with the victims.
Yeah.
By the way, I love what President Trump is doing.
He's telling Harvard to cap the number of foreign students, and he's even taken it a step further, and and they are now scrutinizing social media accounts.
By the way, I've been telling everybody in your you know, well, it's not your state anymore either.
You live in Pennsylvania, uh, the Commonwealth, but Cuomo's saying he's gonna raise the minimum wage because he's got a little challenge from the hard left in New York City in the primary.
Cuomo's going to be the next governor.
You do agree with that, don't you?
You mean mayor?
I'm sorry, the next mayor of New York City.
You're right.
I stand.
Just gave everybody a heart attack.
What's the difference?
It's the same thing.
Oh, you don't think he's going to win?
You want to bet?
You know, I gotta be honest with you.
Um, you know, I'm not I'm not gonna be honest with you because you're gonna get mad at what I'm gonna say.
I just don't believe that any of it's fair, so I don't know what's what anymore.
What were you gonna say that I wasn't gonna like?
I just think that there's a lot of back end politics, and I think there are people running things that have a way of making sure things turn out the way they would like.
Oh, you don't believe in the fairness of it.
I'm telling you, not in New York, no, that's not that the the problem is it's baked in.
Anybody with half a brain left New York.
Now, to my friends that are hearing me in New York, and I have many friends, and and and they were sending me notes last night.
They know I'm a big uh Florida Panthers fan, and they made the semi uh they made the finals again in the the Stanley Cup.
Uh they'll probably be playing Edmonton again.
It'll be a rematch of last year uh and they've got a great team.
And they were all a plum.
I love my friends in New York, but all of them are telling me privately they can't wait to follow me down here.
And they can't wait for for the winter time to come down and visit and get some warm weather.
And and they none of them want to be there, but they're all there for different reasons, like kids or what or work or whatever it happens to be, but none of them want to be there anymore.
Anyway, let's get to our busy phones.
800, 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, Joe uh John is in South Carolina.
Hey, John, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Good.
Just happen to be at the gym right now.
Um question about the auto pen.
Who's got the keys to it?
There obviously has to be a paper trail for the paper trail.
And it's just not sitting in a room and people just walk in there and like a copy machine and just throw whatever in there.
Isn't there like a a log, a personnel log?
I guess who is using it?
What you you're talking about the autopen?
Yeah, the autopen.
Yeah, there is a there absolutely is positively positively are uh, you know, we need answers to the question.
Who used the auto pen?
You know, look at look at the the 2000 plus, you know, pardons commutations at the end.
Do we really think Joe Biden knew about every case?
I don't believe that for any I don't believe it at all.
He was a he was a cognitive complete mess by the time he left.
Right.
I mean, I would think at that point with that many, he there'd be like a f batches of them.
Someone would advise and say, okay, the net this next sheet of a hundred people is for this.
They've all been okay, great, perfect.
I'll I'll sign this one for a hundred.
You'd think there'd be something like that going on where he would have some knowledge of batches of these pardons going on.
Listen, I'm telling you right now, there has got to be a full investigation.
We had James Comer on the program.
We'll put him on this radio show as well.
He has begun the process now.
He is having transcribed interviews with top Biden aides and his doctor, and we need to get to the bottom of what did they know about Joe's cognitive decline?
When did they know it?
Why did they cover it up?
Uh, and and who was in charge.
I mean we need answers to all those questions.
Appreciate the call.
John, you're right.
But there has to be the paper trail.
Who used it, and we got to get to the bottom of it.
No disagreement.
Well, we and I we I think we will.
Robert in Georgia.
Robert, how are you?
Where in Georgia are you?
I am in uh Snakesboro, Georgia.
But I travel on the city.
What's going on?
Thanks for taking my call, and thank you for what you do.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate you being with us.
Well, I was telling Katie that I've got an LLC.
I've been doing my own business since 2016.
When COVID hit, it devastated my business.
And I kept hearing all this talk about how we were gonna get some help for small businesses.
But I'm pretty much uh I have me and my and two people helping me.
There was nothing for us, no help whatsoever, because my small business wasn't big enough to qualify for any of the loans or anything like that.
And you know, it's not that I'm looking for retribution or anything like that, but um what can be done to bring awareness that there are a lot of small businessmen like myself that aren't big enough to qualify for a lot of the stuff that the government made available that we don't just get hung out to drive like I did.
Listen, first of all, I feel sorry for small business people like you.
I really do.
I think it's terrible what you've been through.
I it never should have happened.
People should have been given the choice.
And you might remember there were businesses that tried to resist and then in came the government and wanted to arrest owners of small businesses.
It's it's it's unconscionable to me.
And uh is there going to be you know any type of payback?
I don't think so.
I really don't as a matter of fact we have uh stay right there Robert say hi to Ed in North Carolina.
Ed apparently your your business was ruined because of COVID.
Is that true in the shutdowns?
Yes sir.
Hey Sean, how are you?
I'm good.
What's uh what what's on your mind today?
Well I had a uh a World War II themed coffee shop and I'm also a award winning cake decorator.
So not only did uh uh when they when they did the shutdown of all the wedding vendors and things like that it destroyed my wedding income uh I also had to refund all of the bride that I had booked up for 2020 and 2021.
I had to refund all those deposits that were taken um and my wife had a daycare and uh they made her shut her daycare down because she refused to get the COVID shot um when she was seven months pregnant so they told her she couldn't hold her daycare license if she didn't get the vaccination so same thing it's like we're where my our businesses were too small to get any help from the government.
We didn't uh get um approved for any loans.
And then to make it even worse, after we bled to death uh with the coffee shop in the bakery, um I applied for unemployment and I got I didn't get approved for that either.
Unbelievable.
I I I honestly don't know what to say except that this is why I warn people to never trust their government but that doesn't help you.
It doesn't it doesn't make up for what you have suffered through.
It doesn't make up what Robert is saying here.
You know, now business is trying to start over.
You know, one of the things, I don't know what advice to give you except, number one, to say how sorry I am, how wrong it's been, how awful government can be, how oppressive they can be, how wrong they were.
And except to encourage you, I mean, we have $10 trillion in investment and maybe, you know, with under this one big beautiful bill, both of you will consider building out and, maybe getting the right loans or investors you know manufacturing that in in one of the areas where this money is going to go and be invested in.
Uh but short of that I don't have a good answer for either one of you and I'm sorry.
I really it's horrible what you've been through.
Robert go back to you well thank goodness my business didn't shut down.
I just had to use a business line of credit just to stay afloat and I maxed it out and it's probably gonna take me 10 to 15 years to pay that back with very high end that that's terrible.
You have you have that hanging over your head for 10 or 15 years.
Ed and you lost your business altogether right yeah I closed them down.
I mean I had uh I had a couple great customers of mine that actually when I announced that I was shutting the businesses down they came to me and they said hey we don't want you to close we want we will pay all your bills until this thing is over.
But at that point I had no idea when it was going to be over you know and I'm not someone just to take handouts but uh you know if if it took 30 grand or 100 grand or you know what I mean in my mind I owe those two gentlemen that money back.
You know so I I appreciated their offer but at the time we just had no idea where this was going.
And as far as like look my wife having to take the shot I mean um I told her she called me crying and I told her just shut it down because she's not getting the vaccination not knowing what it could do to the unborn child.
You know so we lost everything and this was in Connecticut.
We sense that I'm so sorry Carolina because I I learned I hope people are hearing you.
Because this is the danger of government that spirals out of control.
This is it.
And what they did during that time, I mean, is unconscionable.
What they did to kids, unconscionable.
Forcing kids to get the shot in the jab, forcing pregnant women to get the shot in the jab, people losing their jobs in the military.
I mean, lives were ruined by our government.
And they've never been held accountable.
And we now know we funded it.
And the NIH funded it through the what is it, the Eco Health Alliance and the Wuhan Virology Lab.
They knew damn well it wasn't a wet market.
They knew damn well it came from that virology lab.
They knew damn well gain of function research took place there.
They knew damn well coronavirus research took place there.
And they lied to all of us.
It's horrible.
I hate these.
There's nothing we can do to help them.
Fauci jail.
Gotta go to jail.
People gotta go to jail.
People need to be held accountable.
They gotta go to jail.
I want to see them in suits.
Yeah, Fauci got a pardon.
It ain't gonna happen.
Unless states go after them, but I will see what happens.
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