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Dangers of Gender Modification Surgery - May 29th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, uh, I gotta give a lot of credit to the Maha movement, Health and Human Services Secretary, um Robert Kennedy Jr., I think has done a phenomenal job, and he's fulfilling his promise to educate the American people about dangers of food colorings, additives, chemicals, and our foods.
And he's also giving the American people choices.
Um we also have to give a lot of credit to Dr. Oz, who's going to join us in a minute.
They have identified ways to get savings in Medicaid.
Number one, just taking the 13 million, 14 million illegal immigrants off of Medicaid, for example, is going to cost us it's gonna save us a fortune.
On top of that, we have discovered massive increases in Medicaid, especially over the last 12 uh 14 years, uh, to the point where it's now headed towards insolvency.
And what we're seeing is the federal contribution and the original intent of what Medicaid was supposed to be about has evolved into the left's effort to socialize or create a national health service, if you will, or the qu equivalent thereof.
Um yesterday, uh Dr. Oz announced that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, of which he is the head, um, is launched an oversight initiative on hospitals performing experimental sex trait modification procedures,
and they sent a letter to select hospitals that are performing pediatric sex trait modification procedures outlining urgent con urgent concerns with both the quality standards adherence and profits related to these harmful procedures.
Quote, these are irreversible high-risk procedures being conducted on vulnerable children, often at taxpayer expense, said Dr. Ozzy.
He said, hospitals accepting federal funds are expected to meet rigorous quality standards, uphold the highest quality of stewardship when it comes to public resources.
We will not turn a blind eye to procedures that lack a solid foundation of evidence that may result in lifelong harm.
And they have previously noted the lack of reliable clinical evidence supporting the quality and the safety of puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, sex trait modification surgeries for minors.
Now, remember this became a big deal during the campaign, and and the left in America.
For example, Tim Walls uh wanted gender-affirming care, care, not counseling, care for young adults, in other words, underage without parental consent.
Now, these are life-changing, life-altering decisions.
And I don't think anybody under the age of 18 is capable of making that decision for crying out loud, you can't buy a jewel pod without an ID and and proof that you're over the age of 21.
never mind a bottle of beer or a bottle of wine or a spirit of any kind.
I mean, how old do you have to be to get a driver's license?
In some states, it's a little lower.
Uh but the idea that this can happen without any parental consent on top of the fact that it's happening at all and that taxpayers are funding it is insane.
Anyway, Dr. Oz joins us now.
Sir, how are you?
Very well, beautifully articulated.
It is a sensitive topic to a lot of Americans because we don't want uh the the young generation hurt irreversibly.
Uh ironically, just to add to the discussion, uh we uh had put a white paper out where as you pointed out, the president uh and Secretary Kennedy are curious people.
And by curious I mean they they actually want to know the answer.
Eighty percent of of questions are really statements in disguise.
You face that all the time.
Uh but in this case we really want to know the answers.
We did a white paper.
It turns out that the countries that were leading in these gender operations, these disfiguring mutilating operations, uh the UK, Scandinavia, they stopped.
They pulled back because they realized uh after a while that most of these young kids are troubled in ways that you're not going to fix with surgery.
There's a lot of uh kids who make a decision when they're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and then five years later they realize it was a terrible mistake, it's too late.
You've lost your organs.
Uh they recreated you and and something else into something else, and that's not a life that you're happy living with.
Uh the joy is gone from uh in uh uh intercourse.
A lot of things then follow after that, which are again irreversible.
And you made a decision at the age thirteen, fourteen, fifteen that is irreversible, but you have to live with.
And so we believe that institutions that are involved in these types of procedures should be uh aware that we're watching.
They should be reporting to uh as to everybody what their results are.
We should also be very clear that's a financial in uh motivation here.
These are operations sometimes they cost 150,000 dollars uh per child, uh because you've got to take something off and create recreate something in its place.
These are uh uh are so are incentives sometimes to do things that are not in the best interest of the American people, and we want folks to be aware that's happening.
So we've sent letters to nine of these institutions that are very much engaged in this process, uh, so that they'll respond with very specific uh qu respon uh to our very specific re uh questions, and hopefully we'll all learn a bit more about what's really going down.
Well, I want to understand and and uh want more detailed explanations of how, for example, informed consent is obtained for pediatric patients and whether parents are involved in the decision and and how are taxpayer funds going towards this being that it's so controversial.
Well, i th the that's by the way, part of the discussion that we're having is when you have a mental health condition, which is what is being used as the excuse for these operations, they they they argue these kids are gonna hurt themselves if they don't have their gender transformed.
That by the way is hi uh highly speculative, unproven uh uh claim that has been uh crutched on but quite a bit, but we don't believe it's correct, and our white paper reinforces that reality.
Again, that's one of the reasons they're not doing these operations as much in other parts of the world that used to be pioneering the work.
But uh you're asking a very critical question is taxpayer money being used for these?
And we we actually control uh uh the payment of care for over half the kids in the country between Medicaid and CHIP, which is children's health insurance program, uh that's about fifty-three percent of all the kids in the country.
And so uh we believe that in least in those two instances, yeah, kid kids should not be undergoing operations with taxpayer dollar.
We have rules and regulations we have the ability to put out, and we've already started this process, and we want to be very public about the fact that we're headed in this direction, so everybody knows is coming, and so there's no surprises.
Um but th there's a much bigger argument here, is which is how do we protect young people who are in trouble uh from making decisions that they sh that they would they will be penalized by?
And uh for sure the parents have to be involved, but even the parents should be aware that that children change their minds.
And uh so if a kid gets embraced and is made to feel that once they just left you know, c provided a clue that they might be transgender when they're thirteen, they can't change their mind.
Um and then therefore they have to go through these whole series of processes.
Uh that that is bad advice.
And that was we are concerned being given as advice to young people and their parents.
And we're arguing based on the science, and which is again we're leading with the science here.
So I know this is uncomfortable realities, but the the Maha movement that you started talking about, the opening of your monologue, is all about curiosity.
Are you truly curious about what uh is going down?
If you're uh honestly curious about what's happening with transgender kids and why the incidence has exploded uh so much over the last few years, and this is not a you know again, if it's purely genetic, it would have been present twenty-five-thirty years ago.
It's not.
Uh the pri the incidence is dramatically increased far beyond what genes would have explained explained.
Then you have to also be aware that kids can be made to think certain things, and they can if they're embraced in that thinking and not allowed to naturally change their mind, you might be making a terrible mistake.
This is all behind for me, additional reasons why we might want to slow this process down and not let kids jump into a big mistake.
Well, I think this is more than than important.
Let's talk about the taxpayer funding of such and where do we stand with that.
Well, we put uh a rule out uh with it if through the exchanges, as you know, these are the Obamacare exchanges, because uh under the Biden administration there was a desire to fund these procedures and in every level.
So uh the exchanges, we put the the rule out already, gotten public comment back.
We understand what people's concerns are, we're addressing them, uh, but we don't think they should that the public taxpayers should be subsidizing insurance uh uh uh uh contracts that pay for these procedures.
Medicaid, another good example.
Uh we Medicaid should be desired is designed to take care of health uh m uh issues that are afflicting our most vulnerable, and so we want these kids to get care, but not care that's experimental, that's mutilating and is not demonstrated to be of impact.
And we have the same belief for CHIP.
And this is all part of a larger and I believe very brave move by the by the president who has an executive order in this area, and he wants to deliver on his campaign promises.
He told the American people that he thought these were mutilating operations, he was right, he and he promised them he would address it if he was elected.
He was elected.
So we want him to fulfill his promise.
He wants to f uh to fulfill the promise, and so that's why we're uh we're f following up on all the things that appropriately are being asked by your listeners.
I've had extensive conversations with Caitlin Chenner and uh right after she did that big interview with Diane Sawyer, we had a long, long conversation.
And I I knew Caitlin when Caitlin was Bruce, the cathlon winner, and we remain friends to this day.
And it's interesting the position that she takes.
At one point I said in the conversation, I said I'd be less than honest if uh if I didn't tell you I don't understand this.
And her answer was actually pretty profound.
She said, I wouldn't expect you to understand it because you're not living it.
I said fair enough.
With that said, she went into a long uh a long narratives uh explaining why it is important to her to go pu why it was important for her to go public, and why, for example, she's against men uh playing in women's sports and why she supports Title Nine and why this is is not a decision for a young person, and this is only a decision for an adult because it's permanent, it's life altering.
And it's it's interesting that she has come under criticism for for stating what I believe are just simple commonsensical questions.
What adults eventually choose to do with their lives, I don't think the government should really have any say over, but I don't think it should be funded by taxpayers either.
Especially an elective surgery or I would argue an elective surgery.
And and she seems to agree with me on all of that, and I I think that it's unfair that she has been targeted just because she doesn't buy into the entire extreme argument of the left.
What's your reaction?
Uh she's a brave woman.
She's saying what many others have told me as well.
Uh they don't want to have a target on their back.
They don't agree with what's being said about uh the transgender uh uh situation, and they feel that by misconstruing what's really desired and and uh and I think scientifically valid, uh you're actually hurting the the process.
In fact, many of my friends who are uh gay males uh b uh argue that it's specifically targeting uh young gay men because they will uh these boys will change their mind.
You know, they have a belief.
Uh it's confusing uh as they try to sort of figure out what's going on in their life.
For some of the time that they're confused, they may believe they're transgender.
They often will settle into being uh a gay male, and so but because they're being pushed into these operations and seemingly embraced, but it's actually almost being you know held and pushed into the process, uh, then they now are taking uh their life in a very different direction.
I think Sean, this is just an example of where the president is making very brave moves that are that are sometimes confusing for the average American who's not paying attention to, but over time they begin to realize one second, that's that's not right.
But Caitlin Jenner's jetting is her saying is if you just sit back for a second and just listen to her as someone who went through it.
You understand there's deep wisdom there.
We can say the same for the most uh uh favored nation drug pricing, brave executive order that was signed by the president where and I'm proud, by the way, that he that he he was willing to do something that he knew had political risk associated with it.
There's a lot of money pouring in from the pharmaceutical industry uh to to protect their sector.
Um but he president was very clear in saying that he's proud of the innovation that has taken place uh in the pharma school industry.
But if you're an average listener right now, you know, two-thirds of bankruptcies in America are caused by health problems, and uh about a third of Americans who are given a medication to treat a problem, don't take their meds because they can't afford it.
I mean, the idea that that you have it you have a choice between being sick and and having money in the bank is is a terrible reality for a lot of Americans.
And here's the irony, Sean.
You'll get this.
A lot of the CEOs of these pharma companies are they're patriotic Americans.
They get it.
They're sort of saying now under their breath, well, I mean, we someone finally made us make a decision here.
You know, we were gonna do this until someone found me held up the reality that we're charging a lot more for these drugs in America, two to three, sometimes four times more than these drugs cost in other countries.
Um, and the president has said enough.
It's not gonna happen.
You're making seventy percent of your profit off the American people.
We're four percent of the world population, go make money elsewhere.
And the equalization uh argument, which is a compelling one, is what he used for NATO, right?
He went to NATO countries, he said, guys, we're paying all the bill to protect you.
That's not right.
You should pay some of the bill, and we'll pay some of the bill.
Well, you know, we'll carry our fair load.
And it worked.
And we're gonna do the same thing with the the most favored nation pricing on drug prices.
The average American is not gonna have to decide whether to be healthy or or or whether to be bankrupt.
That's that's a false choice, and that that's this president's going to address.
And because we also produce, you know, eighty percent of of uh the development of new medicines, and it costs billions to find them.
And pharmaceutical companies do create good medicines that help prolong life and save life, and and I know they get a bad rap on other on other issues, some warranted, some not.
Uh Dr. Oz, we really appreciate the great work you're doing.
This is very important.
We've got to protect our kids.
And uh you can't have life-altering decisions made at young ages without parental consent, without and I don't think taxpayers should be forced to pay for it either.
We appreciate your time, sir.
God bless you, my friend.
Take care.
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Linda, is it just me?
I mean, we talk a lot about election year conversions where politicians that for decades have have had expressed deeply held beliefs, and then it becomes an election year, and they begin to sound like somebody that they are not.
And all their positions begin to change.
And fake Jake Tapper is the latest example.
He was not covering Joe Biden's cognitive decline.
And now he's written a book about it with some other guy.
And acting as though this is the greatest media cover, maybe worse than Watergate.
It is worse than Watergate.
It is the greatest White House presidential scandal in history.
This was a coordinated effort, and the book goes into details about it based on the excerpts I've read.
I will not buy that book or pay for that book.
And it's funny.
Well, Fox News won't put us on the air.
I'm like, I guess because we're a competitive, you're not a competitive network.
He gets like three, four hundred thousand viewers a night.
The guy is not doing well.
And just like all these late night comedy shows that aren't funny but are just political.
You know, there are they're all officially on cancellation watch.
Everybody on CNN fake news is on cancellation watch.
So I don't know if this is you know the equivalent of an election year conversion.
Now fake Jake, who did not chronicle the way we did, or anybody else, Joe Biden's cognitive decline, is now making money off it through this book that he's trying to sell, and he's been out hawking here, there, and everywhere.
Now all of a sudden he's criticizing Letitia James and Alvin Bragg for lawfare against Trump and the media letting it slide.
They were if there was nothing but breathless hysteria on fake news CNN.
Look in the mirror, Jake, fake Jake.
Take a good long look in the mirror.
Go back and watch your own show.
Listen.
I look at the way I covered um, you know, the president, some of the trials of the president, I thought were, you know, I think it's I think it is problematic when people run for prosecutor and promise to go after a specific politician.
And both Letitia James, the attorney general of New York, and Alvin Bragg, the district attorney in New York, both of them did that.
And that to me is problematic because you're not saying um this is the offense and we need to bring justice to this perpetrator.
You're saying I'm gonna go after him.
And I think that there was a degree to which that was tolerated by the media writ-large.
I mean, I I did note it at the time, but like, and when Trump does the same thing, he's the president, so it's also a different degree.
Um people perceive it as more problematic.
I excuse me, they ran on a get Trump platform.
You can't, I mean, you talk about tolerated.
I remember fake Jake breathlessly reporting every detail of the phony Russia collusion story.
Go back and watch the tapes, fake Jake.
You know, did you ever point out to your audience that the Mar-a-Lago valuation was fake and phony and fraudulent?
Did you ever bring on a Palm Beach real estate expert to counter Judge Erdogan's you know, phony valuation that he stuck to?
Did you ever go after you know on the air and saying Letitia James should recuse herself with anything involving Donald Trump having run and used the words he's gonna get Trump?
You know, did you ever go after Alvin Bragg's trumped up charges, pun intended, you know, using a novel legal theory to get around, you know, a simple NDA who's by the way, which is a misdemeanor whose statute of limitations had long since expired?
Did you ever talk about the double standard when it came to top secret classified information and the way they treated Trump versus Hillary versus Biden?
Did you ever talk about any of this?
No, you did not.
You ever talk about Pfizer abuse?
You ever talk about how the dirty Russian misinformation dossier?
No, fake news CNN went with the details of it all.
I remember seeing it at the time.
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Uh all right, let's get to uh David in Texas, God bless Texas.
David, how are you?
Glad you called.
David, are you there?
Hello, David.
David once, even twice, even three times.
Sold to Norman in Long Island, New York.
What's up, Norman?
How are you, sir?
Glad you called.
Hi, how are you, Sean?
I'm good.
I have two things that I wanted to discuss with you.
First thing, AOC.
And in the waning days of Biden's um campaign.
She went on the campaign trail with him.
How come she's never questioned on Biden's cognitive decline?
She seems to always get a free ride.
She challenges us or the Republicans all the time, but how come nobody challenges her?
Every single Democrat has to answer the question.
What did you know?
When did you know it?
And those that say they didn't see it are lying.
And everybody needs to know they were lying.
Just like they lied about the borders being secure and the borders being closed and inflation being transitory and Joe Biden.
It's hard to keep up with him.
He's he's so fit.
He's so aware.
I have a hard time.
Jen Saki, she must be in horrible shape.
Had a hard time keeping up with Joe.
They're all full of it.
Hey, oh, see?
They're lying to you.
In the waning days when everybody saw it, she said he's doing great.
And nobody chats her.
What they show is her fake rallies that she has, and a lot of people get the impression that she's really winning over a lot of people.
And you know, you gotta be careful what you wish for sometimes.
By showing Well said, you're you're right on the money.
You're all over it.
You're right on the money.
I've been teaching science for a long time.
When we say COVID vaccine, it's not a real vaccine in the sense of a vaccine.
A vaccine is a weakened or a deadened form of the virus.
The COVID, what we call the COVID vaccine is really chemicals.
It's an MR RNA that's not made from the real DNA of the COVID virus, but something that mimics the virus.
And because of that, you know, when you get a real vaccine, you're getting the real virus, which causes the real antibodies in your body to respond.
This has a bunch of chemicals on it, which can target all different sites in the body.
And I really believe that that all those other chemicals aren't specific just for COVID, but they are waking up genes that are are dormant or that are laten that are beginning to show up with like these heart problems that kids are having.
So maybe it does work on COVID, but it's also causing other problems.
Big time.
Listen, and and we had Robert Malone who created the MRNA technology, and he was on this program telling people it wasn't perfected.
He said it's not perfected.
However, he said for emergency authorization for older people with comorbidities, pre existing conditions, he would approve the use in that case because they had no other defense.
Although we had Dr. Tyson on yesterday, there was a defense, and there's, you know, 200 studies he says now that show that what we were, you know, that Donald Trump was right that taken early, uh hydroxychloroquine, for example, mitigated symptoms.
You know, and I never talked about it myself when I first got COVID.
I I used hydroxychloroquine.
Never told it before now because everyone was demanding I tell my status.
And I had the alpha strain.
And guess what?
I didn't miss a single day of work.
Not one.
I worked in a room by myself.
That's how I did my shows.
Anyway, I appreciate you being with us.
Linda, you remember that time, don't you?
Oh my god, yeah, it's insane.
Oh, and then and then sweet baby James.
I'd say just put papers under the door and I'll get them later.
Stay out of the room.
And he would next thing I'd turn around and he'd be but he'd be in the room.
I'm like, get the hell out of here.
Scream at him.
You know how many times he's baby.
He's getting bashed for the flag, bash for the papers.
That guy, I tell you, man, that's a tough job.
I mean, you were yet you were yelling at me to take off.
You were telling, just take off.
You know, I can hear you.
I'm done yelling at you.
I've surrendered.
You promise?
Never again.
Yeah.
Never again.
You will never yell at me or be mad at me again.
I didn't say mad.
I just said yeah.
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Is David in Texas?
Is he there or not there?
We tried David before.
David, God bless Texas.
Are you there?
Yes, sir.
Nice talk.
What's what's going what would you go for a walk?
Did you buy a sandwich?
You get lunch.
What'd you do?
No, I don't know what happened.
It was just blank on I never heard anything.
What's going on?
Um well, I just wanted to talk a little bit about the uh the the way the judiciary system and now they're talking about the governors of all the democratic states are going to start trying to plan some kind of conspire against doing something.
And I'm just wondering why the FBI and uh DOJ can't go with the uh 18 USC 2384, which is uh it's a sedition and subversion activities generally involve acts that undermine the government but do not necessarily involve violence.
Why should why couldn't why couldn't we go on the offense just like they're using lawfare and have our our uh basically our administration going after them to you know stop this conspiracy behind the scenes?
Well, I I I'm just telling you right now, none of this is going to stand.
I mean, we're not gonna win every decision, but this judge blocking the you know Trump from suspending this Biden era, you know, migrant parole program is insane because it goes against the rule of law that will not stand.
Uh the federal court that rejected Trump's unbounded authority to impose worldwide tariffs.
I'm sorry, but that is Article 2.
That is the that that would be the president's constitutional authority and role.
And the U.S. Court of International Trade out of New York City ruled Wednesday that the president overstepped his authority over tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
Well, what does that mean?
Excuse me.
Uh that that's that's not gonna hold.
But you know, this is what he's now facing.
It's called law fair.
It has a name.
They go judge shopping, and they go to the liberal jurisdictions, liberal jurists, activists, and uh but so far, you know, every time they think they win, then it goes to a higher court and they lose for the most part.
Yeah, hopefully.
But but they're just they're trying to slow down the agenda and what they cannot get done electorally at the ballot box or legislatively, they they use activist judges to do things, and that's what they're doing.
Yeah.
Hopefully we could uh judge shop and do everything they do to basically counter that, and maybe they'll stop doing it.
Oh, well, the best thing we can do is appoint more conservative justices if we can find enough of them.
We need them.
And we get disappointed far too many times.
Frankly, I'm kind of done with the Federalist.
Uh they get it wrong too often.
We need to find conservative jurists, period.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
800-941 Sean.
Uh Terry, North Carolina, Sean Hannity Show.
Hi.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing today?
I'm good, sir.
What's going on?
Hey, I got a quick question for you about the big beautiful bill.
You know, when they handed out the stimulus checks, uh, at the end of the year, we were taxed on.
Uh when the overtime at not being taxed during the year and the tips and stuff, at the end of the year, is it gonna be taxed on our federal income tax stock?
The stimulus checks were?
Uh no, you won't get taxed on tips.
People that work in the service industry, for example, uh often they get paid below minimum wage.
A lot of people don't know that.
I know for my years in working in the service industry.
And when you get tipped, you know, most people pay by credit card, and so there's a record of it, and so you report all that as income, and then you get taxed on it.
Now moving forward in the future, you do you give great service, and people want to give you a tip.
You're not gonna have to pay taxes on it.
That that is huge for people in the service industry.
I mean, I I used to bring cash to tip people all the time.
I I'm still a big believer in cash.
I'm probably one of the few people.
Tell my kids all the time, you have any cash on no, they never have any.
It drives me nuts.
I'm like, here, take it take every and I think it's their way of like ex extorting dad for more cash.
I understand that part too.
Uh yeah, I work a lot of overtime, and I was just wondering like at the end of the year.
You know, yeah, you won't you're not gonna get taxed on your overtime, man.
You keep working it and then save that money.
Remember, money is freedom.
Money, money gives you if you can save some, it is freedom to make choices in your life.
It won't make you happy.
And I was poor, and now I have money.
I think I was, I could argue I was happier when I was poor.
I can make that argument.
Linda's like rolling her eyes.
But it gives you freedom.
And then you well, do I want to move to the state?
Do I do I want to should I fix my car or get a new car?
I mean, it gives you a lot of freedom.
Saving money is important.
Living under your means is important.
Anyway, 800-941 Shauna's on numbers.
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