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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program we watched in horror as Vladimir Putin, rather than take the opportunity to bring peace to Europe and the region and stop this onslaught, just decided to just fire at innocent civilians and take them out.
It angered President Trump, who said that he's gone absolutely crazy, which he's been for some time.
I've always said he's a murdering dictator thug.
And as a result of all of this, we now have 81 senators that are backing Lindsey Graham's plan, which is to impose crippling sanctions on Russia.
The latest outrage by Russia will not go unaddressed.
Graham writing on X, without China's support, Putin's war machine will come to a halt.
81 senators have pledged their support of a bill to impose sanctions against the Kremlin, as well as a 500% tariff on imported goods from countries that buy Russian oil and gas and other products.
You know, one of the reasons, I mean, we see similarities in both the Middle East with Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, and Putin and Russia.
One of the similarities we see and just this common denominator is both these countries get rich because of stupidity.
Russia was allowed to get rich because Western European countries were buying up gas and doing multi-billion dollar deals for gas with Vladimir Putin.
That's why Angela Merkel, when she was chancellor, got the white flag of surrender from them, President Trump, for helping to make Russia rich.
And that obviously enriches their coffers, which results in military spending, which resulted in the Ukrainian invasion.
And so what is ultimately going to happen here, one of the, according to one of the leading newspapers in Ukraine, Russia's three-day bombardment of Ukrainian cities over the weekend has convinced President Trump to consider lifting all restrictions on what Ukraine's military can do with U.S.-supplied weapons.
And now there's talk of the Ukrainians going full on and straight for Moscow.
Now, there was one report this weekend that Russian President Vladimir Putin's helicopter came under Ukrainian fire by some of their drones in the Kursk region last week.
And at least that's what they're claiming.
But the bottom line is this is now coming to a head, and we'll see what happens.
Here's what Jack Keene had to say on Fox, that Putin is targeting civilians to get Trump to back away.
I don't think that's going to work.
Well, there's no doubt that Russia will do another offensive this summer.
They're certainly in preparation for that.
But I mean, right in front of us, I think clearly what is happening is Russia is not going to any peace ceasefire, you know, temporary for 30 days or so, and certainly not to a permanent one in the near term.
They've been unwilling to make any concessions whatsoever.
And I think the fact that they continue to target civilians and kill civilians, I believe, is Putin's attempt to put more pressure on the president because the president got involved in stopping this war largely because of the killing that's taken place.
And he said it time and time again.
And I think it's very sincere about that.
And Putin sees that as an opportunity to put pressure on the president to get him to back away.
And I think that's what's happening.
And listen, 25 years we've known Putin.
And for those 25 years, he's been a war criminal and has targeted civilians.
He's doing it right now, as we see on a daily basis.
Joining us now is Rebecca Coffler to weigh in on all of the strategic military intelligence analysts, formerly with the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency.
She put out a best-selling book called Putin's Playbook.
You've been pretty accurate so far that he was going to try and delay and avoid what I think one day will be inevitable, and that is Putin is going to have to realize that when the world turns against him, that it is going to be a dramatic shift in what it is that Russia expects the life that they have enjoyed with the support of the West.
I wish, Sean, I could give you some positive news, but I make a living by accurately predicting Putin's behavior based on a very rigorous intelligence analysis.
And like you said, so far I have had a very strong record.
No, the world is not going to change against Putin.
Even today, as we speak, there are 100 nations, representatives from security councils all over the world are meeting in Moscow for a conference that is Russia's equivalent of the Munich, of our Western Munich conference.
Putin is not making concessions despite the predictions of the various experts, the same ones they called him a warmonger and a criminal.
Somehow they expect Putin to act like a nice guy.
But no, he is not going to end this war.
And sanctions are not going to change his behavior because in no shape or form is his decision calculus on the war in Ukraine is driven by economic concerns.
So the best thing for President Trump right now is to simply walk away.
And I'm afraid he doesn't have good advice from his people who don't understand how Putin thinks.
They assume Putin thinks like a Russian.
He doesn't.
And so this war isn't.
Well, but let's take let's take President Trump out of it for a second because he's trying to bring peace to the region.
And let's look at Western Europe, for example, because they continue to import Russian gas and energy and they're making Putin rich.
This is their continent.
This is not our continent.
And one has to wonder why they continue to fund that.
100%.
I mean, Ukraine is not part of America's vital interest.
What does it mean?
It means that America's security and long-term stability is in no shape or form reliant on Ukraine.
So it's really unclear why before President Trump, every single president, Obama, Biden, going back to Bush, Clinton, why they decided to court Ukraine into NATO.
Ukraine is a highly corrupt country.
It's the number one country in the world.
So, basically, he's trying to restore his strategic security perimeter, which is similar to our Monroe Doctrine.
And this whole war has...
Well, if he's trying to do that, why don't we go back to the former Soviet Union days and Poland and Hungary and Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia.
You know, why don't we bring back his territorial ambitions that large?
No, that's not.
That's what Europeans want you to believe, that he wants to invade a NATO country.
But Putin is not suicidal.
NATO, at least in conventional sense, holds advantage in combat potential.
Putin is waging the war just below the threshold of triggering U.S. and NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine.
If Poland were to be attacked, and even one of the Baltics, then Article 5 would be triggered collective defense, and Putin is done.
What is happening right now is the European Union.
But as part of the settlement, I don't mean to interrupt you, but this is important to me.
As part of the negotiated settlement, Ukraine would never be a part of NATO, that he would get to keep Crimea, which he annexed in 2014.
This war started under Joe Biden.
It didn't start under Donald Trump.
Donald Trump recognizes that certain areas of Ukraine, like the Donbass region, which is 80% Russia national, was likely going to end up in Putin's hands anyway.
And he seems to have been offered almost everything that he wants, but yet this indiscriminate killing of innocent men, women, and children continues.
Why?
And why do European nations, especially Western European nations, continue to help make Russia rich?
I'm answering your question right now.
So yes, you're absolutely correct.
The war started under Biden and even under Obama because Obama was pushing really hard for Ukraine to be in NATO.
It would have never started under President Trump.
What now is happening, not only are the Europeans continuing to buy energy, in addition to India, China, and Turkey, the EU is also importing energy, financing Putin's war machine, but they're also using Ukrainians as human shields effectively because as Ukrainians are being killed, and right now more than one million between the Russians and Ukrainians are killed.
That's why President Trump is really frustrated.
So, but they're degrading Russian, or they think they are, the Europeans.
Instead of paying up, increasing their contributions, they are using Ukrainians, throwing them into Putin's meat grinder, hoping to degrade the Russian economy.
But they're not going to degrade the Russian military and economy.
Here's why.
Because Putin transitioned in 2015 his military on a wartime footing and he sanctioned proof his economy.
And NATO knew that because I personally briefed them.
So right now, Russia produces in three months more military hardware than the entire NATO alliance, including the United States, produces in one year.
Think about that.
And that's intelligence analysis coming from NATO Secretary General Mark Rudder.
The reason why Putin is not settling with President Trump, even though Trump is promising no NATO membership, is because two reasons.
One is there's significant warfighting capability stationed right now in Ukraine, Western capability, including a CIA basis and including a major NATO combat training center, which is about six miles away from Polish border in Yavorov.
And Putin is trying to basically destroy that capability because he doesn't trust us.
Because he views that, remember Joe Biden, initially he was saying, no, we will never allow Ukraine to strike deep into Russia.
And then he turned around and he changed his mind.
Same with President Trump.
And don't get me wrong, I love President Trump.
I'm just, because I'm an intelligence analyst, I am telling you how it is.
I'm not going to lie to you or your viewers.
So then President Trump, first, he removed intelligence sharing and military assistance from Kiev, from Ukraine, and then he put it right back in.
So for that reason, Putin is simply not believing us.
And it's right now an untenable situation, and it's not going to get resolved.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll continue more with Rebecca Koffler on the other side, author of the best-selling book, Putin's Playbook, formerly U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency and strategic military intelligence analyst.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
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All right, we continue now.
Rebecca Koffler is with us.
She wrote Putin's playbook, also a strategic military intelligence analyst, formerly with the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency.
So at this point, you're suggesting that Trump just walk away from it, but that doesn't solve Europe's problem, and it doesn't solve NATO's problem, and we're a part of NATO.
And this is why it's been so important that President Trump insists that these NATO-allied nations, that they start paying their fair share.
I mean, Canada pays about half what they're supposed to pay, which is, what, 5% of GDP?
We pay more than any other country by far.
And again, I go back to my point.
This is their continent.
They're making Putin rich on the one hand.
They're not building up their defenses on the other hand.
And they're creating a vulnerability that has not existed since World War II.
100%.
That's exactly why they've been using us as pawns, the U.S. taxpayer.
Not only we have been financing their defense for more than a decade.
And like I said, I personally told them at the highly classified level in 2013 what Putin was going to do.
And yet, only at that time, only eight countries out of 32 contributed, even 2%.
Germany, the richest country, didn't.
So they were using their three-month vacations, their free health care.
We were financing all of this.
So the only reason I'm saying is we must walk away is to save us money and reduce the risk of a direct kinetic confrontation.
Because look, the same people who spent 20 years in Afghanistan just telling us, oh, the victory is just around the corner.
And we spent $2.2 trillion and 6,000 lives only to walk away.
And Afghanistan doesn't even have a regular military force.
And NATO wants to get us into war with Russia that has 6,000 nuclear warheads that in quality and environment right now holds advantage over U.S. weapons arsenal, nuclear weapons arsenal is precisely why President Trump wants us to augment that.
So these people are absolutely delusional.
He needs to get better advisors who are going to tell him the reality and not like using the sanctions like it's some sort of cannabis.
It's like giving aspirin to a dead person these sanctions.
Unbelievable.
And these are definitely scary times.
Rebecca Koffler, we appreciate your insight.
I hope people are paying attention because this is getting worse by the day.
Yes, sir, anytime.
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Well, I saw this and I said, well, Linda's going to be happy.
It'll be the happiest person I know.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
announcing the COVID vaccine has been officially removed from the CDC's recommended immunization schedule for healthy kids and pregnant women.
Listen.
Hi, everybody.
I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr., your HHS secretary, and I'm here today with NIH Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty McCary.
I couldn't be more pleased to announce that as of today, the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy pregnant women has been removed from the CDC recommended immunization schedule.
Last year, the Biden administration urged healthy children to get yet another COVID shot, despite the lack of any political data to support the repeat booster strategy in children.
That ends today.
It's common sense.
That's good science.
There's no evidence healthy kids need it today.
And most countries have stopped recommending it for children.
We're now one step closer to realizing President Trump's promise to make America healthy again.
I don't even want to ask how happy you are.
You've never liked that.
There are no words.
There are no words.
No words.
No words.
Let me tell you something.
I'm with you too, by the way.
This is a fabulous and amazing moment of truth.
We were lied to.
Our children were hurt.
Pregnant women lost their babies.
And now we can finally stop it.
We can protect our children, the unborn and the born, and stop all the nonsense.
It was utter nonsense to begin with.
There wasn't one ounce of science that supported kids getting this stupid vaccine.
Well, they weren't dying from COVID.
Now, if you go back to our interviews with Robert Malone, who took a lot of heat publicly, he is the creator of the mRNA technology on this very show and on TV.
He said multiple times that this technology was not perfected, that this was not tested.
And he said, with that said, he would allow emergency authorization because older people tended to be a lot more impacted by COVID than others and those with pre-existing conditions and comorbidities, etc.
He said he would only allow it for those people that chose it.
He wouldn't have mandated anything.
And based on information and consultation with your doctor, based on your medical history.
And for that, he was excoriated.
And meanwhile, there wouldn't have been any shot but for his technology.
He didn't invent the shot.
And he said the idea that kids get it and younger people get it and people without pre-existing conditions or comorbidities.
I mean, that should have been everything we needed to hear at the time.
Now we aired it.
We aired it regularly and nobody wanted to hear it.
And all people wanted to know is, what is your status, Hannity?
And I'm like, it's none of your business what my status is.
Go jump in a lake.
And then I had another one.
You see, the problem was it wasn't just about status.
It was about control.
They wanted to every single person in the world.
And it didn't work.
But there was enormous pressure brought to bear on me on both this show and on the TV show for me to tell people what to do.
And I wasn't going to do it.
I refused.
And then we brought on people like Dr. Malone and so many others that had very different points of view.
And we were excoriated for that.
They paid a price themselves for doing it.
Dr. Oz, by the way, was one of the people that came on and was very outspoken about the need for people to be very careful with this.
And he got excoriated for his position.
It really is an unbelievable time historically for all of that to have happened.
Really is.
I'll tell you what, I'm looking forward to Fauci the fraud actually being brought up on charges for all that he did because he knew what he did.
Okay.
He got a preemptive pardon.
It ain't going to happen.
Yeah, but if they're signed by Autopen, then I don't really think that counts, does it, Sean?
I don't know.
But you know what?
I don't know what would prevent states from bringing cases against him.
I mean, that happens all the time.
They did that to Trump all the time.
Sure does.
I mean, if we're really going to hold people accountable, because we went over those emails, and then if you remember, there were a number of groups that came out, and there were a number of caches of emails that came out that showed that they knew darn well that NIH money went to fund this Wuhan virology lab that they knew where they did coronavirus research and gain of function research.
And Fauci himself was quoted, even if it results in a pandemic, I still support gain of function.
I mean, how stupid can you be?
He's not stupid.
He's manipulative.
And he made a lot of money in the years that ensued.
Apparently, NPR was trying to get people to ditch their gas grills this holiday past holiday weekend.
Electric grills are a climate-friendly option to fossil fuel grills.
Gas is the cleanest burning fuel that exists.
I don't even know what they're talking about.
Anyways, Americans are gearing up for Memorial Day.
NPR decided to have a beef with how people cook their meat.
And anyway, a correspondent, summer grilling usually starts with filling a propane tank and buying a bag of charcoal.
But some people are ditching these fuels for more climate-friendly electrical DCP.
You know what I came away with?
These people are never going to stop.
They are never going to stop.
Later in the program at the top of the hour, we will get into the latest with Laurel Libby, the state legislator from Maine that won her case and her role in Maine politics with the help of the Supreme Court ruling in her favor, but she's struggling to do her job.
And female athlete groups are suing Minnesota officials for allowing boys to compete against girls.
That's still going on.
And trans high school track and field dominate qualifying for California state files of finals and multiple events.
I mean, how much is enough with this radical left?
They're not going to change.
You had one left with these left-wing TikTok stars applauding this deadly DC shooting, this anti-Semitic shooting, and the left-wing streamer was suspended from Twitch after a false flag comments on DC Jewish Museum shooting.
It just doesn't stop.
And then you have on top of that, I don't know if you saw, did you see the viral clip showing Brittany Griner calling Caitlin Clark trash and an effing white girl court size?
Sure did.
Sure did.
By the way, Duck Dynasty star, the patriarch Phil Robertson, passed away.
Our love and prayers go out to that family.
The guy was a trip.
Remember when I went to West Monroe, Louisiana, and I interviewed him and I interviewed the family?
It was at the height of Duck Dynasty fame.
A couple of great things happened that day.
We grilled out, which was awesome.
He lived in a trailer, and then he had a million-dollar kitchen that he built for his wife.
You couldn't make that up, Ms. Kay.
And he goes, Hannity, you want to get them ratings up?
We'll go back there in the swamp and I'll baptize you in the name of Jesus.
I said, I watched your show.
There are alligators in that swamp.
I've seen the alligators on your show.
He goes, yep, you have to show a little bit of faith going back there to get baptized.
That's what he said to me.
Pretty funny.
I thought that you enjoyed that.
Doesn't everybody enjoy swimming in a swamp with a man praising Jesus and some alligators?
I mean, that's really testing your faith, Bush.
Listen, I've watched this man.
That Bible was read front cover to back cover over and over and over again.
I mean, he was the real deal.
Oh, no, yeah.
And you couldn't joke around with him.
I mean, he came in and we were joking one day.
He goes, I don't joke about the word of the Lord.
I'm like, okay, moving on.
Sorry.
Yeah, no, but you know what?
He was a good guy.
He was very nice to me.
And I know people want to bring up the controversial statements.
Those are his deeply held religious views.
And you know what?
I thought liberals like free speech, but apparently not.
All right, back to our phones, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Jerry in Connecticut.
Jerry, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, over the past weekend, we've had a lot of acknowledgment of the fifth-year anniversary of the death of George Floyd.
And as you know, the whole world saw and heard his dying words, I can't breathe.
But the purpose of my call is to remind your listeners that at that exact same point in time in history, April, May, into early June of 2020, thousands and thousands of people died in blue state Democrat nursing homes where their dying words very well may have also been, I can't breathe.
What Andrew Como did to those people, putting the most infectious people in with the most vulnerable people, is unconscionable.
What Rachel Levine did, pulling her mother out of the nursing home before sticking the COVID-infected people in the nursing home, is unconscionable.
But unlike Derek.
Let me tell you how this is going to play out.
You ready?
I'm going to jump to the conclusion, the finale.
Andrew Cuomo will be the next mayor of New York and it won't even be close.
So that's how much people cared about it.
Well, then it's on them, right?
That's the problem with a democracy is that ultimately the voters are responsible.
So when the next crisis comes and Andrew Como finds it convenient to kill off the people who might be running up the tab for health care costs.
And remember, before they put the sick people in, they would not let the families in under these the guise of you didn't want to bring the disease in.
But what they're really doing was getting rid of witnesses.
Listen, I think he would have been better served if he was more honest and just said, I didn't know.
I didn't understand.
But the problem is there were health officials that were telling him, and he was holding his daily press conferences, et cetera.
It was a bad time in New York.
I'm telling you, I lived through it.
And I also think that when President Trump built out the Jacob Javits Center and built all these thousands of hospital beds and brought in a Navy hospital ship, and they didn't use the resources that were being provided to them, I think that was a big mistake.
And I think that it was malice.
it was man i mean it was i again i go back to i think he would have been better off had he said i just didn't know and And even though people were warning him, he could have, I think he should have owned it and acknowledged it better.
Instead, he was writing a book about leadership, and it became obviously a big controversy.
And I think led to, you know, his early demise then as governor.
Remember, Democrats are the ones that kicked him out.
It wasn't Republicans.
Republicans have no power in New York, none at all.
And it was Democrats that wanted him out.
But now Democrats want him back, and he will be the next mayor of New York.
Period.
End of sentence, New York City.
And I saw Michael Bloomberg is supporting him and raising money for him also.
So, you know, I guess all is forgiven in the minds of the media.
When they forbade the families from going into the nursing homes before they put the COVID-positive people in with the vulnerable people, that to me was proof positive, they knew there would be a problem because they kept healthy people out, but then they turned around and put sick people in.
So to me, ignorance or lack of good information is this is malice in my judgment.
There is no, oh, I didn't know or no one told me that because you knew you already.
Well, talk to your fellow New Yorkers because they're about to re-elect this guy.
All right, quick break.
Right back.
We'll continue.
More of your calls coming up, 800-941-Sean as we continue.
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Up next, our final roundup and information overload hour at our busy phones, Chris in Mississippi.
Hey, Chris, how are you?
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
I would also like to say I'm formerly Chris from New York.
I have now left New York.
I am now a Mississippian, and I'm very grateful for it.
Good for you.
I bet you everybody in Mississippi says you talk funny.
Yes, they do.
They all call me a Yank, too.
But that's okay.
That doesn't bother me.
My wife and I moved down here to be truck drivers down here instead of up in the art.
But I've got a question for you, and I don't even know if this is possible.
I would like to see or would like to hope that there's some Democratic patriot out there that will come clean with the auto pens, the Biden policies that are absolute disaster.
And I wonder, is it even possible for President Trump to offer them a pardon to come clean?
Because the American people deserve to know the truth.
What happened in this absolute disastrous four years of the Biden administration?
And a lot of people that I talk to, Sean, are really upset about this.
Like, the biggest thing they're upset about is how is his wife running cabinet meetings?
I mean, how everybody, anybody that says they didn't know is lying.
I'll start there.
Number one, they acted undemocratically.
I mean, for even, you know, fake Jake Tapper to come out and say this could be a bigger scandal than Watergate.
Well, he was a part of it.
Well, I didn't know.
I didn't see.
I had no idea.
I'm not buying what any of these people are saying.
And, you know, it's garnered a lot of attention.
But I can just tell you right now that there was an obvious cover-up.
And then the question now becomes: who was in charge?
Because I think the answer will shock everybody when we eventually get to know, and we will eventually know.
That's why I like the idea.
Dan Bongino and the FBI are now opening up the investigation again into the cocaine in the White House, which ended after 10 exhausting days of investigation.
And oh, we have no evidence.
I don't believe that either.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
Thank you for being with us.
Good luck in Mississippi.
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