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	Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, I mean, the news is probably the hardest part of my life and my work life in terms of just keeping up with the daily onslaught of news, all of it good, all of it big.
	And then we're following the insanity of the left, which still does not understand what happened on November 5th.
	And I don't think they ever want to understand it.
	On the periphery, then you have people like James Comey, 8647, and goes on MSDNC and tries to make himself out to be the victim.
	Now, there is the one big issue that is now coming to a head, and we've been telling you all about it.
	And there might come a point this week where we urge you to call your members of Congress and get them on board to pass this one big, beautiful bill.
	I know it's not the perfect bill.
	I know there's something in there that probably every congressman or woman won't like, but it will do the following.
	It will make President Trump's tax cuts permanent.
	It will eliminate taxes on overtime and Social Security and tax on tips, which is great for service workers.
	It will give us the money that we need to secure our border and get rid of these criminal immigrants, illegal immigrants that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Alejandro Mayorkas allowed into the country.
	It will allow enough defense spending to start the process of building out the next generation of weaponry, which is very, very important.
	And it will also help unleash American energy dominance, which is going to be great for our economy.
	Add to that the nearly $10 trillion in committed investment money that the president has gotten from countries and companies that are now pledging to build here in America, especially in very specific and critical industries like the pharmaceutical industry, like semiconductor chips, the automobile industry, et cetera.
	I mean, these are exciting times, especially for the people that really do make this country great, the hardworking men and women.
	These are high-paying career jobs for them.
	And so we want all of this to happen.
	And for that to happen, we're going to need both the House and the Senate to come together and come up with this one big, beautiful bill.
	The goal is to have it all passed by the 4th of July.
	We expect an important vote in the Senate later this week.
	And the president went to Capitol Hill urging House Republicans kind of to stop complaining and pass the budget bill.
	There has been some opposition.
	He was very clear.
	Don't mess around with Medicaid.
	He said they will eliminate waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption from Medicaid, which will save us a lot of money.
	And anyway, it seems like some of this opposition is now receding, which is a good thing.
	One of the key people that will play a big role in getting this thing across the finish line is our good friend Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio is with us.
	He is the chairman of the very powerful House Judiciary Committee.
	Congressman, welcome back.
	Glad to have you as always.
	You bet, Sean.
	Good to be with you.
	Thanks for all the good work you do.
	One big, beautiful bill, Sean.
	OB3, as some are calling it.
	OB3.
	We need to get that passed.
	Okay, tell us the status.
	And, you know, when I went and you were there and I did my town hall with Speaker Johnson and yourself and other members, one of the first things I said is, does everybody know you're not going to get everything you want?
	And part of the process is you have to work within the constraints of reconciliation, which allows the Senate to bypass a closure vote, in which you would need 60 votes and just get to a simple majority, which would be 51.
	It has been used to pass Obamacare and also the Inflation Reduction Act.
	But the fact that we can do it with 51 votes means this can get done and we can begin the process of putting Donald Trump's economic plan in place.
	Yeah, no, and you can tell that this bill is a beautiful bill because the Democrats hate it.
	And I said earlier today, the Democrats hate it because it's so Republican.
	It does fundamental Republican principles.
	It enacts the things that we always talk about as Republicans.
	It cuts taxes, it secures the border, and it requires work.
	We're the party that says let mom and dads keep more of their money to chase their goals and dreams down.
	We're the party that says secure the border, said we don't have what we had under Joe Biden, completely open border, 10 million people coming in.
	And we're the party that says if you're an able-bodied adult and you're getting taxpayer money, you should have to work.
	That's fair to taxpayers.
	That's good for the economy.
	Most importantly, that's good for the individual who's getting the money.
	They're learning the skill set you need to get to a better life.
	Those are three fundamental Republican principles, and that is exactly what this legislation is about.
	And that's why the Democrats are screaming so much saying they're against it.
	So you're exactly right.
	We should come together and pass this one big, beautiful bill.
	Okay, so where's the opposition coming from?
	I know there's different factions within the Republican caucus in the House.
	You're friendly with pretty much everybody.
	Where's the opposition coming from?
	One of the big areas are salt deductions.
	That is state and local tax deductions.
	By the way, when Donald Trump became president, the first time I ended up paying more money in taxes because New York is a high-tax state, and I was no longer allowed to deduct state and local taxes, which meant I ended up paying more.
	But I always felt it was unfair because it was rewarding states that elected big tax and spend politicians and, frankly, punishing states that elect low tax and spend governors and legislatures.
	Yeah, rewarding New York, California, Illinois, and New Jersey at the expense of Ohio and the other 46 states.
	So, yeah, that's the problem with this.
	So there's some concern there.
	I understand we have members from those areas and we say they need to win something so they can go back home and tell their constituents we made it a little better.
	I think that's good.
	And then, so that's one of the concerns.
	President Trump dealt with that first thing when he came in and spoke to the conference.
	First issue we talked about with salt and how we have to get that figured out and how we have to move forward.
	And then, of course, there's a community.
	I keep hearing the number will go from 10 to 30,000 deductible.
	Is that about right?
	Well, that's where it's, I think, at in the current draft.
	We're still in some negotiations, but that's where it's at currently.
	So I think that's likely to happen.
	Will it go further, you know, increase a little bit more?
	I don't know.
	We're trying to put all these votes together.
	And then there are the folks on maybe some more conservative side of our conference, you know, good friends of ours who say, well, we should speed up the phase out of some of the Green New Deal and some of the other things.
	And I get that.
	And I'm all for that as well.
	But in the end, if you pulled any one of these things out by themselves and you said, oh, are you for cutting taxes?
	Yeah.
	Are you for securing board?
	Yeah.
	Are you for requiring work for able-bodied adults?
	Yeah.
	Are you for getting rid of phasing out the Green New Deal?
	Yeah.
	So anything you would pull out by itself, you would be for.
	But now you put it in a package, you're saying, well, we wanted some things to happen a little faster than there's currently written.
	But in the end, it's still a good bill.
	So let's support it.
	Let's figure this out.
	Let's get the votes.
	Let's support it and get it to the Senate so we can get it into law and it will have an impact on our economy like we had with President Trump when we passed this eight years ago, have the growth we need in our overall economy.
	Now, the president said that he was confident that you're going to get this thing done and it will make these tax cuts permanent, which I think are critical for the future of our economy.
	At the end of the day, and I know some of the people that are grumbling the loudest.
	I'm friends with some of the people grumbling the loudest, and some of their concerns are legitimate.
	I'm not going to lie.
	However, having to deal with reconciliation and this arcane process in the Senate, it makes everything that much harder, doesn't it?
	Yeah, and the fact that we're talking about one big bill, there's that component.
	There's the timeline you're on.
	There's actually the debt ceiling issue, too, which has to be addressed, and that's coming close.
	Secretary Betson's talked about when that's happened.
	So all that's coming together.
	Now, some of that, I think, I always say deadlines influence behavior.
	Some of that, I think, is pushing us to actually get to a resolution and get this thing moving.
	But it is a big task.
	But that's the task we were elected to tackle and to get done.
	We're doing the things we told the voters we were going to do that President Trump campaigned and told the voters he was going to do.
	So let's get this thing over the finish line and let's let it begin to impact our economy in a positive way.
	Well, I think it's going to impact everybody.
	The sooner we turn this economy around, the greater the odds are that Republicans will maintain a majority, which does not happen very often when a president takes over a White House.
	You know the history.
	I think it's happened, what, twice in 100 years?
	Not very often.
	And usually the party in power will lose seats in the House.
	However, passing this bill early gives Republicans a real fighting chance of turning the economy around.
	And if I'm correct in my belief that peace and prosperity drive elections, if the president's able to turn the economy around, if somehow we can get peace in Europe and the Middle East, and I think both are possible, that would go a long way, I think, towards helping everybody that's up for reelection.
	Yeah, very true.
	We know it's proven when you let families and small business owners and communities keep more of their tax money to spend on their goals, their dreams, to invest the way they want, good things happen in your economy.
	We know we told the voters we're going to secure the border.
	This bill allocates the resources to make sure what President Trump has already accomplished on the border, that the borders stay secure.
	And we know we're going to need a workforce when we grow this economy, when you let taxes go down, when you reduce regulations.
	And so requiring work for able-bodied adults in our welfare system, all those things are good.
	All those things help our economy grow, which, as you point out, is good for us politically in the midterms, but more importantly, and just basically, it's good for the country.
	And I always say when America's strong, the rest of the world's better off, too.
	So, it's just overall a good thing.
	So, let's get it done.
	All right, quick break, right back more with Congressman Jim Jordan on the other side, 800-941-Sean.
	Our number, if you want to be a part of the program, we'll get the latest poll numbers from our friend Matt Towery coming up.
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	All right, we continue now with Ohio Congressman.
	He's also the chairman of the very important, very powerful House Judiciary Committee.
	Jim Jordan is with us.
	Let me ask you about James Comey.
	I mean, he went on MSDNC last night and tried to portray himself as a victim by posting on Instagram 8647.
	Now, when you 86 somebody, I think it's pretty fundamental and pretty basic what he meant here.
	And I think he's being too cute by half.
	That's my humble opinion.
	And, you know, I thought it was a very artistic way of making a political point.
	Well, what was the political point that somebody then was making?
	What was your reaction to him posting it, number one, and your reaction to his pathetic answer?
	Yeah, well, I mean, no one believes this.
	Oh, Shazam, it just appeared there, and I took a picture and posted it.
	You know, whatever.
	This is Jim Comey wanting attention.
	I think I shared this last week.
	In the last, you know, 10, 15 years, I've probably been in more depositions than just about any member of Congress, more transcribed interviews where in the course of these investigations.
	And Jim Comey was maybe the most arrogant individual we've ever deposed.
	He just thinks he's so much better than us, you know, than Jim Jordan, us hillbillies and flyover country.
	He's so much smarter.
	You know, he can, that's what it comes across as.
	And this is just him wanting more attention because his arrogance level, his self-focus, it seems to me just to be so high.
	He was as arrogant, John.
	I mean, the other two guys that stood out to me were Clapper and Brennan when we deposed them in the last Congress relative to the 51 Intel officials in that crazy letter.
	Comey was in that category.
	And so I think this is just more him wanting attention.
	I don't know if he's, you know, giving speeches, selling books, or whatever he's doing, but that's.
	No, he's got a new book coming out.
	So he obviously wanted attention in all of this.
	Let me get your take on, and I think everything that the president is trying to do, energy dominance, I think the president fighting for freer and fairer trade deals.
	I think the president securing the border, deporting criminal illegal immigrants, all of these things, peace in Europe, peace in the Middle East, they're all hard things to do.
	He's not chosen the easy, he's chosen the road less travel tier.
	Most politicians are far more risk-averse than Donald Trump.
	Yeah.
	No, it's because he's a leader and he truly loves this great country.
	And, you know, when he talks about make America great again and focusing on putting America's principles and priorities number one, that's what he's doing.
	And that is just good, strong leadership.
	And that's what the country appreciates.
	I say this all the time about the president.
	What I most appreciate about him is he hates to lose.
	And I tell people that is a great quality.
	He thinks like an athlete.
	He just, he likes to compete and he hates to lose.
	That is what you want in the leader of the greatest nation ever.
	And that's who he is.
	He's willing to tackle the tough things.
	He's willing to, you and I probably talk about this more than anything else.
	The stuff he's put himself through because of this, what the left has tried to do to him from Mueller and spying on his campaign to impeachment to Brayden is home to four indictments.
	Fonnie Willis Albin Bragg.
	It's just unbelievable.
	Jack Smith, it's just unbelievable what he's put himself through, but he cares about the country.
	And that's why he does it.
	I went on this trip with him to the Middle East, and the man never slept.
	I mean, the whole way back, 17 hours, he never slept.
	He worked the entire time.
	I know because I watched most of it.
	And that's just who he is.
	And obviously, you know, it's a lot different than the president that we did have, that's for sure.
	Jim Jordan, it is important.
	There's no doubt about it.
	Last question.
	Will Medicaid, will Congress honor his wishes on Medicaid?
	Yeah, we're getting rid of waste, fraud, and abuse, and make them the able-bodied work.
	That's not cutting anyone.
	That's just common sense.
	That's what we should be doing.
	That's one of our core principles.
	And the country appreciates getting rid of the waste and the fraud and abuse in any government program.
	So, yeah, that's what we're focused on.
	All right, Congressman Jim Jordan, Chairman, House Judiciary Committee from Ohio.
	We appreciate you, as always, Congressman.
	Thank you for being with us.
	Thank you, Sean.
	Pick it.
	It was just before the president's 100-day mark in office, this now his second term, and all the negative polls started coming out.
	Now, about 10 days prior to the 100-day mark, I got a call from my good friend Matt Tower, and he said, you know what's going to happen, right?
	And I said, no, I didn't know what he was referring to.
	He said, there's going to be a slew of negative polls showing Donald Trump's doing terrible.
	He's doing awful.
	It's the worst ever, 100 days ever.
	And sure enough, the polls start coming out one after another after another.
	What's so fascinating about it is when you look at where the polls came from, these are the exact people that were off by six, seven, eight, nine, ten points in the 2024 election.
	But more importantly, they were people that have never polled Donald Trump the right way, ever.
	Anyway, so Matt Towery was out in the field, and lo and behold, what a shock.
	Donald Trump's approval rating is 55%.
	His disapproval rating is 44%.
	Undecided is 1%.
	That's 11 points above water.
	That is totally, completely contradictory of every poll that they were trying to tell you about at the 100-day mark.
	And Matt Towery came out with a poll with Robert Cahaley at that time, and they said, no, those pollsters, as per usual, are wrong.
	Anyway, he joins us now.
	What do you attribute this dramatic rise in his polls to?
	Well, Sean, I think the polling was already beginning to shift in the direction of Trump when we did our earlier poll in early May.
	As you would call it a 10% undecided, I think I said on your TV show that that 10% means that opinion is shifting.
	I think that all the bad news is out of the way.
	And if you think about the last few weeks, Trump has had win after win, to quote the way Trump speaks.
	He's done well.
	He came across trying to lower drug costs, which he's doing.
	He averted a nuclear, potential nuclear showdown between Pakistan and India.
	He had a great trip.
	I know you were there covering it, where he made numerous big deals for significant amounts of investment in the United States.
	And he's also seen as also trying to negotiate an end to the war between Russia and Ukraine.
	So there's been no negative and nothing but positive.
	i might add um it turned out inflation went down for the first time in age and gas prices are down so i just think the the media and egg prices are down and food prices are down and all the doom and gloom predictions on about tariffs Guess what?
	They didn't bear fruit either.
	It was just, you know, Wall Street predictable panic.
	But, you know, what amazes me, Sean, is you mentioned Trafalgar and you mentioned McLaughlin, both of whom are great pollsters.
	The folks at Rest Music do a good job.
	Atlas did a great job in the last polling cycle.
	There's some others that did well also.
	None of our polls will you find on any news site today, conservative or liberal.
	And it's because over the years, the polling Mavens tried to make it sound like we didn't know what we were doing.
	And then when we were right, they very muted and quietly put it over to the side and said, oh, well, yeah, these happened.
	People happened to poll Trump right for the third time.
	So conservatives need to ask, why do we, other than Sean Hannity and your show and Laura Ingram, why do we not hear the polls that are truthful about Donald Trump?
	Why do we keep reading all this other nonsense?
	Universities and other groups have got everything wrong on both the conservative news sites and the mainstream news sites.
	It's just insanity.
	Well, I want you to answer your own question because that is a good question.
	Well, my answer is this, is that you have a media that, well, first of all, conservative media was just beaten to death by the mainstream media for years.
	And they're sometimes scared to run anything.
	And also, we don't put our stuff out like the other groups do.
	We just put it up on real queer politics, move on and do our job.
	But the other part of it is, I think the mainstream media will never report these numbers.
	They convince everyone that, oh, well, they don't do quality polling.
	Why do we not do quality polling or that we're not transparent?
	Wait a minute.
	All right.
	Maybe one year, if you got the presidential election polling right, you could say, maybe they got lucky, but you got it right the second time and you got it right the third time.
	Sorry, that's not luck.
	And most of these, most of the polls that people read, they're the very people that got it wrong.
	Not once, not twice, but all three times.
	And this is what has infuriated me.
	And only recently have you gotten the recognition of being the most accurate pollster of Donald Trump, both you and Robert, for example, and John McLaughlin.
	And you're right about Atlas and Rasmussen.
	I mean, that's pretty much it.
	And I will tell you something, Matt, because I know these polls are so often so wrong, I never use them.
	I haven't used them in years.
	If I don't think they're good, I don't use them.
	I go with the people that are consistently right.
	Well, and then that's been to our benefit because you are the most listened to person, certainly in the conservative media, and really in the media in general.
	And so to have a voice like you and others who are willing to run our polls is great.
	It doesn't really matter to me, but I think what people have to understand is they're being fed a dialogue that's not true.
	And they were being fed that in 100 days.
	They said, oh, the 100 days have gone by and Donald Trump is falling apart.
	Well, Donald Trump is not falling apart.
	And I have a message for Donald Trump's White House.
	If you want people to realize your president is doing well, you need to recognize the polls that say he's doing well, not CBS News, ABC, and other polls that they mention from time to time.
	They need to listen to the pollsters who know how to poll Donald Trump.
	What is the difference when you poll Donald Trump between him and other politicians?
	Because there is a phenomenon with this.
	Well, I mean, you know, we go back a long way, Sean, and we've seen some great political leaders come around like Newt Gingrich, who was obviously an early mentor to me.
	You were involved very early on in seeing his campaign.
	You emceed events that we had in Atlanta.
	We've seen some great politicians, but they broke the mold with Donald Trump.
	He is a force of personality before he's a force of politics.
	And that personality he uses to implement his political agenda and what he wants to do.
	And that causes people to be very polarized in terms of how they feel about him.
	But what has happened is Trump over the years has become, people are used to it now.
	They know the way he operates and they like the results they get, which is why these numbers keep climbing.
	And mine are not climbing this alone.
	Res Newsom polls every day.
	They had him at 53%.
	So that's within a margin of error.
	But the trend is way up.
	I mean, it's because Donald Trump transcends normal politics.
	And bit by bit, you become a Donald Trump.
	If you're not a fan, you become someone who admits, well, he's doing pretty good.
	But you can't get people to tell these other pollsters that because the way they collect their data, people are afraid to tell them that they approve of Donald Trump's performance.
	Yeah, well, I mean, it is amazing to me that they get it wrong every time.
	The only year that I thought you were a little off was the, and I think it was related to the Roe v.
	Wade decision, but kind of every pollster was off.
	And that was a midterm year.
	That was 2022.
	But, you know, I've watched you nail states where nobody seems to be able to poll well, states like Georgia that you know well.
	People may not know this, but at one point you even ran for lieutenant governor in that state, and you were a state legislator.
	I mean, we met back in the day when I was a local radio host, as you rightly pointed out there.
	And I guess I was the MC the night that New Kingrich became speaker.
	I guess that kind of ages me a little bit.
	I know you once wanted to retire, but you and I had a long, drawn-out argument, conversation about that.
	And thank goodness I won and you lost.
	And you continue to do this great work.
	I'm sorry your golf game hasn't gotten any better as a result, but I mean, you're doing important work for the country.
	Well, you know what I say, Sean?
	I say, people ask, I say, well, I'm nationally ranked.
	They say at golf, no, but in polling, I am.
	Yeah, that's absolutely true.
	All right, quick Frank, we'll come back more with pollster.
	Matt Towery now has Donald Trump 55% approval rating, 45% disapproval.
	More with Matt on the other side as we continue.
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	All right, we continue now.
	Matt Towery is with us, Insider Advantage, the pollster, friend of the program.
	When you look at the agenda items that the president's taking on, now the president's big push this week is for this one big, beautiful bill.
	All right, the president is also pushing very, very hard.
	He's being unrelenting in trying to bring peace to Europe and peace between Putin and Ukraine.
	And he's obviously getting criticized for it.
	But I kind of am in the camp that we can't continue to pay hundreds of billions of dollars and fight a proxy war against Russia.
	I don't like what Putin did.
	I think he's evil, a murderer and a thug and a dictator.
	However, I don't want to see any more people die.
	And I don't think Ukraine will have a country left if it goes on much longer.
	That's number one.
	And I think in the Middle East, he's been very, very clear.
	I was with him on the trip last week.
	Iran has a choice.
	Either they will give up their enrichment, they will give up any of their nuclear ambitions that they may have, or that will be taken care of militarily.
	He could not be any more clear.
	He was also clear in ways that the media didn't seem to really pick up.
	They were like, well, why didn't he go to Israel while he was on this trip?
	Well, number one, he has met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu more than any other one world leader.
	And number two, that's not what this trip happened to be about, but he did challenge Saudi Arabia.
	He did challenge Qatar to reject extremism and not overlook radicalism in their countries and to join the Abraham Accords.
	He did the same thing in the UAE.
	And on top of it, he came back with trillions of dollars in monies committed and sales for military equipment, et cetera, that I think are unprecedented.
	And if all of that gets done, and then you add nearly $10 trillion in other monies that are committed investments, and you add into that the tax cuts being permanent, which always result in more revenues, and you add to that energy dominance, I think he has set a foundation for economic success, the likes of which maybe we haven't seen in our lifetime.
	But certainly to me, based on everything I believe, it seems like this is the plan that will work the best for the American people.
	And the Republican Party is now the party of working men and women.
	Well, first of all, let's note that he's cleaning up messes left behind by the last administration.
	Certainly the Ukraine-Russia situation.
	I don't know if people remember, but long before Russia rolled into the Ukraine, there were reports that there were hundreds of thousands or at least 100,000 troops enassed on their border.
	Now, why didn't the Biden administration do something at that point to stop it?
	It just boggles the mind that now Donald Trump has to come in and clean this mess up.
	No wars going on when he left office.
	Now he's dealing with the Middle East.
	He's doing with Russia and Ukraine.
	He's doing it with Pakistan and India.
	It's just endless.
	So I think that if he were a Democrat, they'd be talking about giving him the Nobel Peace Prize.
	But instead, they just ignore what he's doing, keep him under a cone of silence, and basically say, I saw one reporter say, well, his trip to the Middle East yielded small little deals.
	If that's their idea of small little deals, I'd hate to see a big one.
	It's just amazing the way they've translated this.
	I think where this is all headed is Russia-Ukraine will reach some sort of peace agreement because Trump by forced personality will cause that to take place.
	The Gaza situation, I think, will be something that continues to go on because it always does.
	I don't know where that's headed.
	In terms of the economy, I think the economy, particularly what they get some of these deals in place on tariffs, more of these deals, and just the suspension for the 60 or 90 days for China was very important to moving the ball along.
	I think when all of that settles down, Trump is at 55 now.
	He may bounce back and forth.
	Sometimes he'll be 52.
	Sometimes he'll go a little up.
	But I think his ceiling has not been reached yet.
	I said that last night on your show.
	I think he has potential to go even higher in terms of his approval.
	And that will really help him be a ballot magnet for these midterm elections.
	Because normally, if Trump's name is not on the ballot, people just don't turn out.
	People have to understand there is way too much at stake.
	It's his future at stake.
	The Democrats will want to impeach him 400 times.
	And more importantly, the entire train stops dead in its tracks.
	We've got to run.
	We do appreciate you, Matt, honestly.
	And thank you for working so hard to get it right because we need that kind of information.
	It is, you know, it's so critical to understanding the real nature of where we are at any given moment.
	Matt Towery, Insider Advantage.
	Thank you, my friend.
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