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Sean is traveling with President Trump to the Middle East and Rose Tennent is at the helm of 'Hannity' and sits down with Will Graham; the grandson of legendary pastor Billy Graham.  Will sits down to talk with Rose about the youth movement turning to God.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to the Sean Hannity show.
You're right.
I'm not Sean.
I'm Rose, and I'm so privileged to be here today and Friday, by the way.
Woo-hoo.
Sean is actually traveling with the president.
He's got his whole Middle East tour going on.
And he's going to have a special edition live from the Middle East on his TV show.
So safe safe travels to Sean and the president, and I wish them really well.
And how exciting that Sean gets to be a part of that, which means how exciting I get to be a part of the Sean Hannity show today.
So if you want to call in, I'm happy to talk to you.
The phone number, I'll be giving that in just a second.
But I do want to talk about a few things first.
And I want to talk about what we're going to talk about more later on in the show because we have Corey Lewandowski coming on to talk about what happened at the facility in New Jersey and what's going to happen as a result.
That's one of the big questions I have, and we'll get to all of that.
But when we think back about what happened on Friday and we watched as the Democrats once again gave priority over U.S. citizens to illegal immigrants when they stormed that ICE facility in New Jersey.
And it all got to me to thinking about the constitutional limits of government.
And you know what?
And not only that, but how our representatives don't seem to take their charge as seriously and even respectfully as they were meant to.
And I'm so disappointed that some of our representatives today seem to believe that they are above the law.
They're well in power and far beyond what the founders ever intended.
And a lot of times in my monologues, you would hear me say, you know, the faith of our founding fathers and how important that was to establish this country.
And I do believe that's true.
And their faith was significant, but guess what?
Not all of them were strong, faithful men.
They didn't have to be because they understood one thing.
That man had a sinful nature nature.
And they were cautious about concentrating too much power in the hands of any one person or group because man has a sinful nature.
They will they all agreed on that, whether they were men of faith or not.
And it was what they believed about this human nature that honestly really shaped how they believed government should work.
Especially when it comes to protecting individual freedom, preventing tyranny.
It was James Madison who asked in the Federalist Papers, and it was number 51.
What is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature?
And he also said in 51 that if men were angels, no government would be necessary.
So the idea was to design a structure that prevented any one person or group from becoming too powerful because we well know that men are not angels.
And if you look at Federalist Papers number one, and a lot of people look at that first paper as just an introduction to the rest of the Federalist papers, but by calling it just an introduction, we're not doing it justice because in truth, it's a very powerful call to action.
It's an appeal from Alexander Hamilton to the people of the United States to completely rethink how government should be.
And he made it clear that it wasn't just a small decision, because the very future and survival of this United States was at stake.
The decisions for a nation's future were placed in the hands of the people.
A government by the people.
And if you think about it too, years later, at another really pivotal point in America's history, Abraham Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address kind of drew on that same concept when he said that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
So that was in 1863.
That was 75 years later.
It was still a novel idea, but still one that was to be protected and remembered.
And Abraham Lincoln knew that.
We still need to talk about this, that the power belongs to the people.
And if we go back to Madison's time, what made the moment so historic was that it wasn't kings or generals or even elites deciding our future.
It was everyday citizens.
The fate of the country depended on their choice.
That kind of trust in the people was very rare.
I mean, not only in the world at that time, but if you look back in all of history, I mean, that was something that was just not happening, giving the people the power.
But it does talk or speak to how deeply Hamilton believed in the American experiment.
He imagined a great future for America.
He even called it the beginning of an empire, but not in the way that we think of empires, not in the sense of conquest, but just to show how important and influential this nation could become if it could be held together under this new constitution.
So at the time, the United States was still fragile and it was far from powerful.
But Hamilton believed that building a government based on the will of the people was not only bold, but it could change the course of history.
And guess what?
He was right.
This country was founded on the idea that man was created by God to be free.
And the only way, the only way to establish and maintain that freedom was to reduce the size of government.
And if you think about it in our founder's case, it was a king that they were trying to get out from under a very oppressive, imposing freedom restricting king.
I mean, at that time it was the king's way or no way.
So they understood all of this.
So when we look back on where we see our leadership headed, it's just not what we saw on Friday.
It's not what we've been seeing in DC over the years.
We see evidence of elitism and central power from all of those people in Washington, D.C., most of them anyway.
We've been seeing it for a really long time now.
And you know what?
Our concern is deep.
But not only that, we should have a concern that's historically resonant because it goes to the very heart of what the Federalist Papers authors warned us of.
They warned us of the dangers of concentrating power into the hands of one person or one group, right?
And the erosion of checks and balances.
They were really aware of the human tendencies toward overreach.
Men are not angels.
And by the way, when they designed a system of government where each branch would act as a check on the others, that was a novel idea too.
And why representatives were meant to be servants of the people, not rulers above the law.
Because our representatives most definitely believe themselves to be above the law in most cases.
And I truly believe that many of them consider to be us to be their servants rather than they ours.
You know they do.
You can see it every day.
The elected officials are acting unilaterally when they flout uh legal boundaries or the proper process of oversight.
Even if they have good intentions, they are losing our trust.
And they're also challenging the constitutional limits that were so very carefully established.
So now, this behavior that we're witnessing, whether we see it as bold advocacy, oh, or reckless overreach, you know where I fall on that one, but it does raise an important question, doesn't it?
It's about how authority is exercised today and whether it's consistent with the constitutional framework.
That was laid out by our founding fathers.
And we're gonna talk about this a little later in the show, too.
Because one of the things that I think about a lot is how the state of our nation is really showing scars.
Scars because of years of neglect.
You know, there's people we have been charged, and so has our representatives with the preservation and the protection of our constitution.
And guess what?
Those representatives in many cases have failed us.
There are so many in DC still.
I mean, we're looking good in some ways.
Yeah, we have a great president, but still you can see it.
There's so many in DC who seem to care more about their status, their payoffs, their grandstanding, then they care about representing us or safeguarding our constitution, because what are they doing about the safety of those that they're supposed to represent when they put others and their welfare over our welfare?
You know what?
Our government has become an industry.
And just like with any other industry, it has its own special interests and their desire for growth.
They're always looking for ways to increase the power and their influence.
But I'll tell you something, unlike other industries in the private sector, the government doesn't produce wealth.
So it has to take wealth by force.
And it's through taxes, regulations, redistribution of wealth and all of that, everything that they do, because they want that power and influence, they do it with a purpose of political outcome.
That's that's their purpose, a political outcome.
When in fact, they should be doing it with a purpose of benefiting others, a beneficial economic outcome.
You know what?
That's why they hate Doge.
That's why they hate everything that Trump is doing, because what he's doing is shrinking government.
What he's doing is taking away that power and influence where it is overreaching and not what it was meant to be.
The organizing principles of our constitutional republic are uh our faith, family, and country.
And it should be in that order, faith, family, and country.
And the only thing that stands in the way of the government becoming those things, the government becoming the organizing principle of our society and our culture, even, is the constitution.
That constitution stands in the way of just about every progressive agenda item, and that's why they hate it.
That's why they look every day for every way possible to get around it.
I don't, you know, I just I wonder sometimes what kind of place this would be, this America, if the spirit of our forefathers, the everything that we've just talked about, was completely extinguished, completely extinguished, because you know that's that's kind of a goal of theirs.
Those men, men and women that forged this republic, they did it by making great sacrifices.
They did it by taking huge risks.
And get what?
Guess what?
America's great because of it.
And it can still be great as long as we remain free.
And we have to remember what it was that made this country great in the first place.
It's people like you.
People with a vision, a vision for freedom, a vision for liberty.
Oh, yeah, and guess what?
A vision for safe haven for its citizens.
It's like the left always wants to stamp out anything, any opposition.
They they want a country with a singular mindset.
You can see it, can't you?
Every day.
That singular mindset.
They want you all to fall in line to that, with that.
And there's certain ideas that they don't like.
They hate Americanism.
And you can see it as they embrace things like global global citizenship and all the crazy stuff that's out there.
That's how much they hate America.
They don't even like us.
They they're they would prefer global citizenship than a uh a citizenship here in this great country.
And even today, a lot of the questions that were raised in those Federalist papers, especially number one, like how much power the government should have, and how it should serve the people.
You know, those things are still not only debated, but they're challenged daily.
The issues at the heart of our democracy remain just as important now as they were back then.
And what we continue to witness from Democrats, particularly the progressives, they're not isolated incidents.
You know that.
It's something that reflects a larger trend in government, a trend that Madison, Hamilton, and the others warned us of.
And we need to take heed.
We really do.
Stay with me these three hours.
We're going to talk about a lot of things.
We're going to talk to Will Graham, the grandson of Billy Graham.
We're also talking to Gordon Chang.
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He is so on top of everything that's happening with the relationship between China.
So of course we have an opportunity to discuss with him what just went down over the weekend in Switzerland.
That's a biggie.
And one more too.
Corey Lewandowski.
We're going to get into the weeds here over what happened on Friday with those representatives and what's going to be done about their behavior.
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I hope everyone had a great Mother's Day.
Linda, I wanted to ask you about your Mother's Day, because you're like a mother to like a million people now.
How was it?
I mean, listen, it was amazing.
My listen, I have to say, I think one of the funniest moments of all of Mother's Day, first of all, shout out to my husband Anthony because he crushed it.
And I know he tries so hard to always do the right thing, and we had a house full of people.
But the thing that I love more than than anything, as far as like food, drinks go is coffee.
Coffee is my life.
And we get up Mother's Day morning, we have a lovely coffee machine, and we are out of beans.
And I come downstairs, and I'm like, where's the coffee?
What's going on with the coffee?
And so of all days to not have coffee.
he just looked at me, he's like, Oh my God.
I said, sorry.
Oh my god.
I was like, how do we not have?
I mean, I keep like such an abundant amount of coffee in our house.
I'm like, where the hell's the coffee?
It was so weird.
Anyways, but he crushed it, the kids were here, my parents were here, his parents were here.
It was very, very nice.
It was great.
Oh, I'm so glad to hear all of that.
Did you get how yours?
We have a little little uh are we allowed to talk about our precious new edition?
Yes, I would love to.
I have a granddaughter now, and this is bizarre.
I can't people would say to me, Linda, are you excited to become a grandmother?
I'm like, Yeah, I guess.
But I'll tell you what, the moment I saw that beautiful little thing, I just I fell in love in a way that I don't know that I've ever been in love before, really.
It's quite different.
And people would try to tell you that, but you really don't know until you experience it.
And I think about her every I sometimes my husband and I will sit in front of the, you know, when you have one of those digital frames, and we just both sit there looking at all the pictures of her.
That's all we do.
We don't even talk.
So she really is very, very cute.
Congratulations to your son and his wife.
It's amazing.
Thank you.
And I was very blessed to have, you know, one child.
It took seven years to have one, so I'm so happy to be a mother in the first place, but I'm even more thrilled to be a grandmother.
Um of course I'm very young, grandmother, just for all of you out there, just so you know.
Okay.
We'll be back with uh we'll be back with the grandson of Billy Graham, Will Graham, right after this.
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Right here on the Sean Hannity Show.
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity show.
My name is Rose Sean is actually traveling with the president on his Middle East tour.
So and you'll be doing it, he'll be doing live broadcasts on his TV show.
So make sure you check in for that.
How lucky is he to do that?
That's such a blessing.
Anyway, it's also a blessing for me because I get to be here today in his place, and I'll also be here on Friday.
So make sure you join me on Friday as well.
Right now, though, we've got the grandson of legendary evangelist Billy Graham and the son of Franklin Graham.
Will Graham serves as executive vice president with the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, and he spent nearly two decades proclaiming the gospel all around the world.
And he just recently returned from Bolivia, where more than 40,000 people attended a one-day event.
They had nearly 8,000 people respond to an ultra call to make a decision for Christ.
So welcome to the show, Will Graham.
How are you?
Thank you, Rose.
Great to be with you.
Yeah, it was really fun.
I got to meet you last week in Pittsburgh.
I think it was your first time visiting the city of Pittsburgh.
It was.
Of all the U.S. cities, that's one city that's kind of uh snuck past me somehow.
I don't know how, but uh I've gone to other places, going to the Pittsburgh Airport, but never been to Pittsburgh.
So it was great to be there for the first time.
Well, it was great to have you here.
It really was.
It was a great event.
You know, it's really impressive, Will.
Seventy-five years and three generations of Billy Graham's message of the good news.
You must be so proud of your heritage.
And I was wondering what it was that it uh did for you as a child growing up, knowing that your grandfather was Billy Graham, your dad's Franklin Graham.
Did you feel this like impressed upon you?
Did you feel that you had to follow in their footsteps?
How did this all work out for you?
Well I'm I was just born into it, so it was always kind of for me.
And uh listen, when when I look at my grandfather Billy Graham, I I don't I I know that he's famous, I know he's well loved, and that's like that's a wonderful thing to have.
A lot of people have relatives that people don't like.
But I was blessed to have a a grandfather that everybody loved and appreciated and respected and sang with my father.
And so it's they're very much a blessing in my life, but they've opened up so many doors for me in my life, and I'm very grateful for that.
But uh at the same time, I realize uh uh even though my grandfather's a very spiritual man and he uh he found Christ, I had to find Christ.
And so when I was young, I put my faith in Jesus Christ uh when I was about six years old and take my life to Jesus, and then God's been using me uh uh to preach the gospel in other places just like my grandfather and my father.
So it's uh it's a wonderful blessing, I will say that.
Oh, I agree.
You're very fortunate.
And you know, there seems to be one of the things I want to talk to you about.
There seems to be a great number of young people right now turning to God.
I mean, they're looking towards faith.
And we've been watching this happen over the past couple of years, and it seems like they're they're seeking a purpose and direction in their life.
And I think for these young people, there's a desire to make a connection because for heaven's sake, since 2020, it we've become so isolated, particularly the young.
And there is no one-on-one really like you and I have experienced in a lifetime.
So they have that desire for connection, I guess, but it's an ever increasing isolating environment.
So what are you seeing right now with the youth?
Well, I I've seen it uh uh I'm sure there's a lot more going on in high schools and things like that.
Uh I know uh like even my daughter uh uh she's dating a boy and he's uh he he became a Christian his last year in high school.
And so these people that are coming from out of high school, going into college, there's God's really moving among uh it colleges here in the United States.
I mean, it it started with Asbury in 2023, that's where it really got, and then it just seems to uh to die down and pop up in other schools like Sanford, Ohio State, Auburn.
Matter of fact, uh Auburn got in trouble, the coach freeze there got in trouble because he was baptizing football players, and uh I don't know what's wrong with that.
How do you get in trouble for that?
No one knows, but uh you know Auburn's a wonderful school, a great school.
Uh but they saw it at Auburn, they saw it at the University of Kentucky.
Some of these aren't even Christian schools, most of these aren't Christian schools.
And that's what's really unique about this.
This is where just there's some Christians at school praying that God would come to visit their school and to do a mighty work, and God's been answering those prayers, and it's still going on, and there's a they are tens and tens of thousands of college kids come to know Christ um all around our country, and it's just w wonderful to see this taking place.
Yeah, I remember you you mentioned Ohio State University.
I remember that there were about sixty students that were baptized during a service at the university, and the football players were the ones that were leading the event, and uh they saw about eight hundred uh students attend, and uh hundreds of them took free Bibles, and actually I think I read somewhere that the that Bibles are selling uh like at greater numbers than they ever have in history, and a lot of people were are giving the credit to these young people who are purchasing them for the first time ever.
Yeah, you're exactly right.
Uh the Bible has been in uh it's always been the wor the world's greatest selling book ever in the history of the world the is the Bible.
And but what we've seen was a decline in people buying Bibles until recently, and now it's the it's it's an upward trend of people buying Bibles.
Bibles are um are the number one seller in the world, and uh it's an incredible book, it changes lives.
And uh we're seeing young people gobble it up, and I think part of it is because of the uh you know, they they they're they starving for truth.
And the world that preaches all this stuff that claims to be true, but they know it's not, and yet they find that in the Bible this is truth.
This is real, this is how we can know God, and uh that God's not fake, that God is real, and this is how we can have a personal relationship with him.
So they're seeing truth and they're finding God at the same time, and it's a breath of fresh air for them.
So um, I think it's uh been a wonderful thing that's been taking place across uh U.S. campuses.
Yeah, I agree.
I was when at your event I met a young Gen Zier, his name was Avery, and he said something that just really struck me.
He said that today's youth are the most interconnected, and yet they are the most isolated.
And they're isolated to a degree that you and I and other generations were not.
So this is something quite new for this generation, and I think they're finally feeling that they want to be connected, not just physically and and and human relationships, but even spiritually.
Well, you're exactly right.
There's a there's a a great hunger in the souls of men and women, uh uh very young, because they haven't had that before.
Um and a lot of these families uh they maybe they come from great families, maybe they don't come from great families, it doesn't matter, but they're they're looking, they're they're spiritually hungry.
Um they're looking for real relationships, and that's found uh in the Christian faith and finding God.
And because He's our creator, He's the one That made us he's the one that changes us.
He's the one that gives us purpose and meaning in life, and uh when you find other believers, they help you along the way and encourage you along the way, and when you stumble and fall in life, it's them that are going to come and help pick you up and encourage you along the way and pray for you and uh keep you going.
And so it's uh it's a wonderful body.
The Christian life was never meant to be lived alone.
It was meant to be led with a other group of believers, and so that's what they're finding, especially on college campuses.
I love that.
I really do.
You know, these young people are facing so many challenges today, and as you said too, they're looking for truth.
And you know, uh so many times you will hear someone say, Well, this is my truth.
I'm sorry, there's like just one truth, okay?
Not yours and his and hers, but one truth.
Um no matter what we're talking about, what subject we're on, there's d one truth.
There is truth and truth is black and white.
There's a black and white thing going on here, not gray shaded areas.
But one of the things too that I wanted to ask you about was being the the grandson of Billy Graham, how much has that influenced you and affected you even when you were a young person?
Well yeah, yeah, I think it's always had a huge influence on me, um, whether I realize it or not, especially when you're young.
I mean, when I'm talking about young, I'm like five years old.
That's probably the first time I remembered uh my teacher came up to me, uh, a wonderful lady, she put her hands on my bank and said, This is Billy Graham's grandson.
And I'm thinking to myself, how does she know who my granddaddy is?
You know.
I've never entered I never brought him for you know, show and tell.
I've never, I mean, yeah, I didn't know my granddaddy was famous at the time, you know.
But um it listen, my granddaddy was a wonderful man.
He he uh but when I was with my grandfather, Billy Graham, I never we never talked shop, like we didn't talk business, we just talked about grandfather and grandson things.
And uh that's what I think he always loved about me and I always loved about him.
We just we were always grandfather, grandson, uh, even though he was famous, I knew that.
Um my life was different.
It opened up so many doors uh to allow me to meet other people simply because I was Billy Graham's grandson.
Nothing not of anything I've done, I promise you that.
And uh it's it's a big blessing to have someone that like I said before, people love and adored and respected.
It just opened up so many doors.
Things that I don't deserve, I get because of my granddaddy, and uh I'm very thankful for that in life.
You know, I'm glad you brought all that up because I was at the NRB and I heard one of the preachers that I'd been listening to for oh my gosh, decades, decades.
And he talked about the and someone asked him what what was the most important thing in your life all these years being a preacher and on the radio.
He said, being a grandfather.
And I thought, you know, and I'm just recently, as Linda mentioned earlier in the show, uh a new grandmother, and you know, it is significant, I think, that relationship between a grandchild and their grandparent.
And I think it's a time in our lives, and I guess I'm speaking now, Will, to some of the people that are listening who might be grandparents.
It's a time in our lives now to take all of those things that we've learned and the wisdom that we've gained and to just share that now with another generation because it that that is the future.
That is my future, my child's future is in that grandchild.
And I think it's just so important to really remember our duty as a grandparent and what that means spiritually in other ways.
Well, if it I'm not a grandparent yet.
No, you're still younger or little, but I'm a young grandparent.
I just want that known for the for the record, everybody, but go ahead.
But there are a lot of people that are listening that are grandparents, and they can have a powerful impact on their grandchildren, especially when their mom and dad are busy working and uh trying to you know make a living that's so they can have a home to live in and things like that.
It can be you know, sometimes the parents get tired, they don't go to church like they should do.
Um, but this is where the grandparents can come in and can have a huge spiritual impact on their kids and set the tone.
And when we found out when we've at the Billy Graham Evangelistic association, when we realized when just one person gives their life to Christ, whether it's a child, whether it's a mom or dad, give their life to Christ, it changes the whole atmosphere of the home, and it can like it'll start leading other people to Christ in their home.
And so I would encourage grandparents, you know, to you know, to speak into their grandchildren's life and uh their children's life.
Yeah, listen, my kids are getting older.
They're uh I don't have one that's married yet.
I got one engaged, another one trying to get engaged, and uh and it's good I know it's gonna Be soon for me, but what a what a great time that you can impact your grandkids as a grandparent and see uh and always be a parent.
You're always a parent.
Like my kids, even if they get married, I'm still their parents, and we'll still speak truth into their life and encourage them to walk along as the Bible directs them.
And so uh never stop, never stop being a parent, never stop being a grandparent.
Keep loving those kids, keep teaching those uh kids and grandkids.
You know, that's a good point.
And you know, we've got a couple of minutes here, and that's all.
And one of the things I wanted to talk about too uh is that how your grandfather was there for so many presidents during his lifetime, regardless of party affiliation.
And we'll, even though I like I'm upset about some things that maybe the one party is doing, and they're probably upset with what our party is doing.
But the bottom line is uh that your grandfather set an example, and I know that you're this way too, that we have to look beyond that and see the person there.
So sometimes we do get really caught up in the politics of everything, but you know, that's really not where we were meant to be, is it?
We were meant to be down in the dirt, be human and look at each other as another human being.
Yeah, my grandfather, he he was uh a confident to um 14 or 13 presidents, um, and there's only been uh 47 presidents.
And uh so he's known 13 of the 47 presidents, and uh and that's where these these other men, these other presidents would call my grandfather, especially in time of need.
Um Lyndon Johnson, for example, uh a Democrat.
Um he loved my granddaddy and he struggled with the Vietnam War.
He struggles sending men to die in the Vietnam War, and he would pray, and he would ask my grandfather come and come by the house and pray with them and talk about because he really struggled with that.
And then you also had uh uh George H. Bush when we would uh the Gulf War started.
He asked my grandfather to come into the White House at night and pray with him as a president as a family uh before they uh go to war.
And so uh my grandfather's just he's always been a friend to these men, and uh and continue I say continue, he continues that even after Johnson and to the presidents, always trying to help them and to pray with them and to encourage them.
That's beautiful.
Thank you for sharing those stories.
Those are quite unique stories, and no other men that I know of can claim that that they were uh confidants to 13 out of 47 presidents.
God bless you.
Will Graham with the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, check them out.
They're gonna be doing a huge European Congress for evangelism in Berlin, Germany.
So that's pretty exciting.
Will thanks for joining me today.
I appreciate you.
Yeah, thank you, Rose.
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