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Confronting Evil - May 7th, Hour 2
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Uh he has a upcoming book called Confronting Evil, assessing the worst of the worst.
And of course, we will uh, as per usual, not be giving Bill O'Reilly a cupcake interview.
We we get very, very deep in the paint with those interviews.
Mr. O'Reilly, sir, how are you?
Happy Wednesday.
Thank you.
Thanks for mentioning your book.
It'll be out September 9th.
And um Putin, Mao, Hitler, and the Ayatollah Homania on the cover, eight others inside.
And what we found out about Putin, that's the uh lead for the book.
So I think you're gonna be interested.
We'll get it to you in uh probably uh a little after Memorial Day, we'll have a galley.
You know what?
You've always very generous and give me early copies of it, and uh I do appreciate that.
I do.
Uh I feel like I'm I'm in the no when I get that.
Um you will not be surprised to know.
I checked out Bill O'Reilly.com and I read your take on the Democrats, the current your current take on the Democrats, and I think you were spot on.
You said they're not trying to solve difficult situations.
They're solely interested in opposing Trump.
I call that reverting to form.
That's all they really know.
Um, and you said, you know, what are the Democrats' solution at $37 trillion in debt to illegal drugs being smuggled in from Mexico, and I'd add China to that, to ending wars in Europe and the Middle East, to the yearly trillion dollar trade deficit, to preventing Iran from building nuclear weapons to the exploding costs of health care.
And and you rightly pointed out about Biden.
He had no specific plans to improve any of these things.
Uh I would argue that he made things dramatically worse and handed off a mess to the Trump administration.
And it looks like the party is carrying on in Joe's tradition.
I would even argue that they've they've they're in the middle of a massive identity crisis and seem to be leaning towards the radicalism that defines their party today, which is even further left than Joe.
Um, but uh you know what are they offering, Bill, except Jasmine Crockett, AOC, the squad, and Bernie Sanders, Grandpa Bernie.
Well, I think there has there should be a law that says if you go on television and criticize a policy, then you should have to have a better policy.
And then it should be a misdemeanor if you don't.
So you'd be handcuffed right on the set of uh the Anity television program and led away.
Because it's such a waste of time and insulting to people watching and listening on the radio.
When you get critics up there who say, Oh, the tariffs are terrible, and then you go, Well, um what would you do instead?
Are you okay with a trillion dollar a year deficit in trade?
I asked that question last week to James Carvel.
I don't know whether you saw that or not.
We did.
And Carmel had I did not.
What was his answer?
Carvel's gotten crazy.
The the old James Carble that was part of the era of big government is over, the end of welfare as we know it.
You know, that Carville's gone.
He's just angry, very, very angry and seemingly at times crazy.
But he's one of the main critics of this tariff situation.
And and then very simple.
Okay, it might not work.
That's true.
I believe it it's going to work.
Um my sourcing on it says that this meeting in Switzerland this coming weekend, uh, with the Chinese and the American delegation is the first step to uh stopping this trade war.
And it's a serious meeting.
Uh by the way, I know it's a serious meeting.
Uh I have my sources as you have yours.
And I could tell you, and this is what I've been predicting from the beginning.
This is economically, you can you can use an analogy and say it's mutually assured destruction.
China needs access to our markets.
That's why they have to come to the table.
Now we have things we need from them.
Now, American consumers want cheap items.
That's part of it, but the more important part of it is China, unlike most of the rest of the world, was smart enough to co go forward with these rare earth minerals, and for the time being, we are getting we will be independent of it by the end of the Trump administration.
We do need that.
So it's in everyone's best interest to make a deal, which I think it will be hard to make, but will happen.
Yeah, I agree that the uh trade war is not going to come to a much worse level than it is now.
So then once people's fears are allayed and the stock market begins to take on some momentum and the dollar firms overseas, then I suggested that uh if it all kicks in the way President Trump's uh vision has it kicking in, that Trump will go into Ronald Reagan territory.
Remember, Reagan in his second term was celebrated after a bumpy first term after Carter destroyed uh the American economy.
It took a while for Reagan to put it back together.
It's the same statement of recession for the first two years.
Right.
And remember, it took him much longer than it's than it's seems to be taking, assuming the one big beautiful bill gets passed.
It's it took Reagan two years to get his economic bill passed, and that killed him in the midterms.
That's right.
And his approval rating was low, but part of that is because he was shot and almost killed.
So they took him off the map for about uh three quarters of a year, as they wrote in killing Reagan.
But uh when you said that Biden uh it is really shocking, and I I'm not using that word in an overstatement.
It is really shocking on how he ignored, not just couldn't do it, he ignored these unbelievable problems.
Just turned He didn't he didn't just ignore them, Bill.
He lied and said that they didn't exist.
He said the border was closed and the border was secure.
He said inflation was transitory.
I mean, every you know, he he just denied the truth and reality of everything and and the deficit, the debt went through the roof and denied that too, and the media covered for him.
And that's why you had that shock uh when Trump comes in and tries to correct all of them at the same time.
And you can debate whether maybe he could have spaced it out a little bit and and lessened the pain.
But they had to be confronted.
You you just cannot have an open border, and Trump that's his big victory so far.
And then when you're looking at a thirty-seven trillion dollar national debt, where by and um people don't understand that before he left office, Biden signed paperwork that would have extended the debt ten trillion more dollars funded and and people don't understand why doge was necessary why musk came in why yes wasteful spending crazy stuff sure that was the headline but when you had an administration that was basically
just okay every single thing, every expenditure you could possibly have, in 10 years you're going to get a $50 trillion debt.
And I'll give you one example, because this is a big Democratic propaganda talking point, Medicaid.
Medicaid is so far out of control because states like California use federal money, which funds most of Medicaid to the states to pay the health costs of undocumented money.
migrants they use it for social programs like dance lessons in poor neighborhoods things like that and there's no Biden made no attempt to reign any of this in at all none of it and so then when you have a new president coming we've got to stop all of this because we simply cannot continue on this bankruptcy projection.
And then you get the his party going oh no you can't stop anything.
I don't know one program the Democrats want to stop or cut outside of the Defense Department.
Do you do you know one program that well here's what I see and this is why I I think you're you're out completely on the right track here.
And and and hear me out on this Doge already is headed towards two hundred billion dollars identified that they can find waste fraud abuse corruption and and and still savings and some discipline in in the budgetary process.
Since the president even began threatening tariffs over eight trillion dollars from countries and companies has been committed to be spent in this country on manufacturing in the next four years including auto manufacturing pharmaceutical manufacturing semiconductors things that are important to national security the tax cuts that will be made permanent including no tax on tip, Social Security or overtime.
Well, Reagan dropped the top marginal rate from 70 to 28 percent.
Revenues to the government doubled.
Unfortunately, Washington spent a buck 25 for every new dollar he brought in.
And add to that the president's commitment to energy dominance, which is, I think, the area where we we become an energy rich nation.
That to me, foundationally, is what gets us to what you are describing as a period of of great economic hope and prosperity.
prosperity and added to that is the Republican Party under Donald Trump will become the party of hardworking men and women again because opportunities are going to be you know abundant in this country for high paying career jobs.
Look, if Trump realizes the potential that he has laid out and that the American economy becomes more self-sufficient, then he will go down as one of the greatest presidents in the history of the country.
Despite all of the rhetoric and all of the controversy and all of that.
Because the American people, you hear Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez and most Democrats say, oh, the income disperse.
disparity oh the billionaires oligarchy all of that well how do you ever think you're going to close that if you don't have an infrastructure that pays workers more money.
See that that's a question I would ask Bernie Sanders he couldn't possibly answer it because Bernie's not that smart.
Okay?
But you're you're screaming up there about income inequality.
That's all you do you mean the the the tour that he took with AOC on a private jet is is is the private jet part of the oligarchy that they're fighting?
That shows their their uh sensitivity to the issue but they don't understand how you have to restructure an economy to close that in commercial see you you you and I care about the same thing.
I'll use your for your term for it the folks uh because we were the folks we are the folks in other words our our backgrounds make us very sympathetic to the people that really do make this country great the people that listen to this program that that watch our shows uh and have been so loyal to us over the years.
They're the people that make this country great, Bill.
And they're the ones, I'll use another Bill O'Reilly term that have been hosed by their government for years.
We had four years of complete inaction denial and outright lying.
And these problems have got dramatically worse.
And Donald Trump, with the uh frankly, with with lightning speed is addressing all of these big issues at once.
It's a very heavy lift, but it's it's it's necessary if we're going to save the country.
You know, it's interesting because Trump and Musk are so wealthy, it's just beyond comprehension.
I mean, they don't have to worry about any kind of bill.
You're kind of right up there, O'Reilly.
You're pretty close.
Well, you not net zone, believe me.
Uh, but you would think that they might not care.
Because a lot of oligarchs, billionaires don't.
But it seems, and the last time I talked to President Trump, um, I I do most of the listening when he when I talk to him on the phone.
I don't really badger him or anything.
It seemed that he was distressed by the failure of the American people to understand the bigger picture.
What you get from the tariffs.
It's difficult to get the deals he thinks he's gonna get them.
But anything worth having is difficult.
Didn't your mom tell you that, everybody?
My mother told me.
If it's uh anything worthwhile in life is hard.
That's right.
But if Trump can succeed in changing the American economy from basically a service to a manufacturing, then wages will rise much faster than if you kept the status quo, which the Democrats want to do.
See, it's okay to say oligarchs, billionaires, income, re you know, all of this, but if you don't have a plan and they don't, how are you ever going to improve anything?
And that's the question that I have.
Because I don't think these people are genuine.
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Same, thanks for having me.
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Um, what is this guy's name on MSDNC?
I guess he's a regular contributor.
What is it?
Ellie Miss Stall.
Miss Ellie Mistall.
I don't know.
Do you know who Ellie Mastall is?
He's some professor or something.
You know anything about him?
You know, anything at all?
Um I know he's a liberal hack.
I think that encompasses all of my thoughts on Ellie Mastall.
There you go.
This is what he said on an MSDNC has just gone off the rails.
They are out of their minds.
Just listen to what he says.
That's insinuating they were ever on the rails.
Boy, oh boy, you're feeling good today.
You're being kind.
I'm being kind.
Listen.
If I get shot, if I get murdered by an undocumented immigrant, please tell my children.
I did not care that they were undocumented.
I get shot.
I get killed by an illegal.
I don't care that it's an illegal.
I care.
I care that our government literally had the most preventable national security, unmitigated disaster, and allowed, you know, 12, 14, 15, whatever the number is, unvetted illegal immigrants into this country, including known terrorists, murderers, rapists, violent criminals, cartel members, and gang members.
No, that would bother me.
And I wish my family could actually sue them.
Of course, it's difficult to sue your federal government for screwing up, but as far as I'm concerned, these individuals that let this happen, blood on their hands.
Period.
End of sentence.
They're responsible.
And the whole time, well, we need Congress to act.
Well, Donald Trump proved that was a lie, too, on top of the lie that the borders closed and the border secure.
Let me take you back because this issue of Joe Biden is cognitive state, another big lie and collusion with the legacy, state-run legacy media mob and Democrats.
They're all now defending themselves from these idiotic statements they made.
Circle back Chen Saki saying, you know, I have a hard time keeping up with him.
And meanwhile, years earlier, we were pointing out what a cognitive mess he is.
And let's go back to March of 2024.
Liberal Joe, liberal Joe on his show.
This is what he said about Joe Biden being his best self right now, intellectually, et cetera.
Listen.
Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth.
An F you if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever.
Not a close second.
And I've known him for years.
The Brzezinskys have known him for 50 years.
If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it.
Really?
Intellectually.
Really?
This is March of 2024.
There's not a single person with eyes in their head in their head that can see that that would agree with that stupid statement.
So I guess we should all go F ourselves.
Oh, okay.
Liberal Joe.
Now, why do I say that?
Because now Liberal Joe, because he has such great judgment in people, is praising AOC as someone that can carry the democratic message forward.
I I love him saying this, to be very honest.
Let's play it.
I understand that uh AOC may be more progressive than a lot of people.
I also understand that she's one of the most articulate, uh, exciting uh people in the democratic field.
She goes out with Bernie Sanders.
And yeah, she just draws so many people very good, very effective in hearings.
They need somebody young like AOC.
And again, it's not about ideology.
Uh, you know, they she can carry the message forward for a Democratic Party that really needs to reach out to younger Americans.
Really?
I mean, he's so he's got liberal Joe has just this great ability to you know ascertain the character of people that are uh in high office or or potentially have ambition to run for high office.
All right, let's get to our phones.
Uh let us say hi to Rick in Rhode Island.
Rick, where are you in Rhode Island?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean, nice to talk to you, my friend.
Nice to talk to you.
What's going on?
Where in Rhode Island do you live?
I live in East Providence, right?
Where did you live when you were here?
I lived in Warren.
I wasn't that far away, maybe 15 minutes away from where you are.
You were in Warren.
I graduated in 1979, Warren High School.
Wow.
I mean, you know what?
It was a great town.
Very new England.
Uh I I love the architecture there.
Uh for a short time I worked for Blout Marine uh in Warren, Rhode Island.
My dad.
And uh my dad was an electrician at Blount Marine for 23 years.
You're yo, your dad worked for Blout Marine?
Yep, he was head electrician for 23 years.
Um I always on your mind today.
How stupid did Democrats think that we must be um to keep saying that?
Oh, I never saw Joe Biden with any decline.
He was fine.
He was so sharp we couldn't keep up with him.
Oh, he got more done in the day than most people get done in a month.
Come on.
In the meantime, we're watching him shake hands at people that are not there.
Uh, say that he met with foreign leaders that died 20 years ago.
Calling on reporters that had also passed away, can't find his way off a stage or walk a set of stairs, and they're saying, Oh, he was sharp as attacked.
We never noticed any decline.
They must think we're so stupid that we're just gonna say, Oh, they never saw any decline.
Oh, we must not have saw what we think we saw.
Come on.
What do you think, Sean?
The fact that they're sticking to the lie still.
Oh, let me let me just sum up how right you are by playing this.
The political coverage.
Look some of the political players and some of them.
Let me ask rhetorical question.
No, I'm that kind of sums it up, Rick.
Anyway, good call, my friend.
All my best to my friends in New England.
Uh let's say hi to Mike in Mississippi.
Mike, how are you?
Glad you called.
Doing great.
I'm doing great, Mr. Hannity.
How are you doing today?
I'm good, man.
I'm doing good today.
You sound like you're doing good.
I love when people are upbeat.
You know what?
There's a lot in life that's not perfect.
There's a lot we should be grateful for, and it sounds like you have a grateful heart.
I can hear it.
Every everybody asks me how you doing, and I just tell them any better, and I couldn't stand it.
So I'd love that answer.
You know what the worst part is?
Is like you know, when you say casually, oh, how's everything?
And then somebody goes on a long rant telling you how miserable their life is, and you're like, why did I ask?
Um not that you don't want to, you know, sympathize with people or have empathy for people, but there are moments where like, uh, I shouldn't have asked that question.
Right.
Right.
You kind of feel bad about it sometimes.
I get it.
You do.
You do.
You're a great American sir.
Listen to you all the time in my truck when I'm driving uh up and down the road, uh keeping America rolling.
Um, thank you for what you do.
And um the Democrat Party in general against people in wheelchairs.
I I I don't get it.
I don't get it either.
Look, I've had situations in my career when I'm on the road that for security reasons, uh I've gotten I I I I've gotten uh treatment that I don't want, need, or or ever desire.
And then sometimes security people overrule you depending on what the scenario or situation is.
I've had such such situations where, you know, I've had threats or situations where people are violent.
You know, I I saw the incident at the airport.
It sounds like she was this was just an entitled incident.
And you know what?
I'd rather just wait in the back of the line, you know, just like when I go to the grocery store, I wait online.
I Picked I try and pick the shortest line, then I just wait, or I just do my own self-checkout, which I always love doing.
And uh because I think I'm really fast at it, and I find those barcodes quick and boom boom boom boom boom, I pack my own bags, I'm out of there.
Um I don't know.
I mean, I I sometimes you don't know, and I'm not making an excuse for it or her, but I I can't tell you how many times I've been walked into events through kitchens and and back areas of hotels in the course of my life, and it's only because when you're a public figure, there are people out there that don't like you.
And and it it puts other people also in a in a situation that's not not safe.
And I don't like to do that to other people.
It can get a little more complicated and nuanced, but I'm not making excuses for her.
That seemed pretty entitled to me.
Yeah, I well, what what brought it to me like that was what she said about uh the governor in a wheelchair calling him governor hot wheels and all that, and to me that's a I was just mean.
Let me play with let me remind people what she said.
Um, because we in these hot ass Texas streets, honey.
Um we got Governor High Wheels down there.
Come on now.
And and the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot ass mess, honey.
So um, so yes.
And she thinks she might be the future and the leader of the Democratic Party.
She said that I don't know, but I might be.
Uh, I don't think so.
Mike in Mississippi, we can all learn from you, my friend.
God bless you, and God bless your family, buddy.
All right, Sean, thanks.
Quick break, right back.
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Uh Asher, Illinois, next, Sean Hannity show.
Hi, Sean.
Um, thanks for having me on.
Thank you.
Wondering I was wondering about um Israel.
What's what's like the whole policy going on in the White House?
And between Houthis, the new attack.
I don't know what's going on, really.
Well, we we thought we had an agreement uh with the Hooties.
My guess is in a message to Iran, you know, Trump used bunker buster bombs to pound the Hooties in a submission, and then they got in touch with the White House, said they don't with no Moss, they didn't want any more.
Now the Supreme Political Council, the Houthis Presidential Council, stated that they have indirectly informed the U.S. that continued escalation would impact the president's planned visit to the region, emphasizing that this was the only message conveyed.
Um to me, I read that as the Iranians got to them and said, How dare you say no mos and the fight's over and we're gonna uh not listen to Iran?
That's my interpretation of it.
I see.
I think and the well and the net result will be they're gonna continue to get the crap pounded out of them, and there's not a damn thing they'll be able to do.
Right.
Also, um I had an idea for President Trump that in honor of the US 25th birthday, he should polish the Statue of Liberty and make it back to the copper color.
Make like a nice ceremony.
I mean, that's not a bad idea.
Not a bad idea at all.
Pretty good now.
It's it's two hundred, it's two hundred and fifty, by the way.
But you know, let's not let's not split hairs.
Yeah.
All right, Asher, appreciate you.
Uh God bless Texas.
Jerry, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
I'm fan since 1996 from the Sean Hannity and Alan Combs days.
Well, thank you, my friend.
What's going on?
The 11th Amendment, Sean.
In there, it has a closet.
Uh citizens and subjects of foreign states do not have judicial power of the United States and shall not be construed or extended to any suit in or in law or equity.
You do I'm I'm um I'm pulling out my constitution because I have it right here in front of me, uh, as I always do.
And the text of it is is that an amendment to the constitution, you know, ratified.
This is 1795, restricts the ability of individuals to bring suit against states of which they are not citizens in federal court.
It was adopted to overrule a Supreme Court decision.
And in that case, the court held that states did not enjoy sovereign immunity from suits made by citizens of other states in federal court, and it establishes the federal courts do not have the authority to hear cases brought by private parties against the state.
Um there's a lot to this, and it there's a lot of legal.
What is your biggest point of it?
Because the judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by citizens of another state or citizens or subjects of a any foreign state.
You're talking about the foreign state provision.
Yes, sir.
And it has to do with the people claiming that the due process is due to people that are not citizens of the United States, but are citizens of a foreign state under the Fifth and 14th Amendment.
So Yeah, I think I think your interpretation is correct.
Based on the actual reading of the amendment.
I do.
Yeah.
And I think it's legally some.
But I got to run.
I'm up on a hard break here.
Uh, thank you, my friend.
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