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Antisemitism is Real - May 5th, Hour 2
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I'm not really sure why, although it's interesting as hell sometimes to watch President Trump with a state-run legacy media mob in these interviews.
We should pull that back up and remind people, but uh maybe we will.
But I want to go to this past weekend, meet the press.
Um Kristen Welker.
And it kind of surprises me anybody does any of these Sunday shows because nobody really watches.
But it the way this was reported in the press is he doesn't uh Donald Trump doesn't says he doesn't know if he needs to uphold the Constitution.
Listen to the exchange.
Your Secretary of State says everyone who's here, citizens and non-citizens deserve due process.
Do you agree, Mr. I don't know.
I'm not I'm not a lawyer.
I don't know.
Well, the Fifth Amendment says I don't know.
It seems it seems uh it might say that, but if you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a million or two million or three million trials.
We have thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on earth.
But it's some of the worst, most dangerous people on earth.
And I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it.
But even given those numbers that you're talking about, don't you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as President?
I don't know.
Uh I have to respond by saying again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said.
What you said is not what I heard, the Supreme Court said.
They have a different interpretation.
That's exactly right.
And if we're talking about the uh the Enemy Aliens Act or the Alien Enemies Act, uh, it's very simple.
We had four prior presidents invoked this act, and it was upheld constitutionally, and the court even went as far as to say that once a president makes that decision under his executive two authority as commander-in-chief, that that is not even subject to judicial review.
Um so the the whole premise of the question is ridiculous because the president's upholding the constitution as a firm by the by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Anyway, here to weigh in on this and more David Schoen, former counsel for President Trump, uh, Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, and best-selling author.
Welcome both of you.
Greg, start with you.
Um I think the question in the context in which it was given, and then the headlines that ensued do not capture the president's answer.
No, they don't.
And and I don't think Kristen Welker understands due process.
And Trump is right uh about deportations and due process, because deportations are not a criminal process under the meaning of the Bill of Rights and the Fifth Amendment, which guarantees due process.
Because removal of people who are here illegally, um, is different than an individual who is charged or convicted of crimes.
They get due process.
And the Supreme Court recently ruled uh that under the Alien Enemies Act, people are entitled to notice and a right to challenge removal.
That's different than due process.
It's a kind of due process, but it's dramatically different.
Um and when you are talking about a deportation and the right of notice, that is done typically on an expedited basis before an immigration judge who is not a part of the judicial branch.
They're employees of the Department of Justice.
So it's not the same as the standard due process that people are entitled to in a regular court of law when charged with a crime.
She doesn't know what she doesn't know.
And so the way by the way, isn't the very act of entering the country illegally render somebody I mean when do when do we bestow upon illegal immigrants the rights of American citizens?
Well, if they're charged with a crime while here on American soil, they get due process.
But deportation, expelling people here illegally, they're not charged with a crime.
They're simply being evicted, and they get the chance to be notified, and they go for an before an immigration judge who says, yes, the documents here, you're here illegally.
What do you have to say for yourself?
And and then boom, you're gone.
So that's not standard due process, and welker doesn't know it.
Well, you there might be boom, you're gone, except you have activist judges and that might say, Oh, hold on a second.
Uh you can uh come back on in a hundred days from now and we'll re examine this issue.
Uh and the odds of that person ever coming back are next to zero.
Right.
So, you know, I think what's important is that the Supreme Court needs to better identify and clarify what it is they mean by all of this.
Um you know that But but didn't they do that in the Alien Enemies Act?
Didn't it wasn't that the whole purpose of the forty-eight Supreme Court decision?
You're the first one that pointed it out to me, Greg.
That's right.
Uh and you know, here you have a judge four days ago, Texas judge, who ruled that Trump cannot use the Alien Enemies Act to expel violent members of a designated terrorist organization.
Um the judge said, well, yes, they're an arm of the Venezuelan government, but I hereby proclaim that this is not a predatory incursion under the meaning of the act.
The judge can't possibly know that.
He's incompetent because he has no access to the relevant intel or government information that the president does, which is why, Sean, the Supreme Court in 1948 said whenever the president uses the act, it is not reviewable by any judge.
But this Texas judge, as many others, are simply ignoring the nation's highest court, and I think Supreme Court needs to be far more clear and deliberate about this subject.
Let's get your take, David Schoen.
First of all, I think the clip that you played is vitally important.
You're right.
The headlines have been saying, President says he doesn't have to doesn't know if he has to obey the Constitution.
In no way, shape, or form is that what President Trump said completely taken out of context.
Your clip gives it the context.
He was saying that he's not sure because he's not a lawyer about the degree of due process due to illegal uh aliens, period.
Not that he doesn't have to obey the Constitution.
He said over and over again.
And I can add one thing, and he went a little further.
What what are we going to have?
Millions of millions of trials uh in this country.
What, fourteen million illegals are gonna go before a judge and on trial and and who's gonna pay for that?
And we don't have the capacity to put that many people on trial or give them quote the due process.
When we know they're here illegally.
Now, I do need to add one thing, and then I promise I won't interrupt, and and that is the news of the day, which is the administration is now offering a thousand dollars to every Biden illegal illegal and a free pl plane ride to self-deport, which that was an idea I've I had floated a long time ago on this program.
That's it's really unbelievable.
The classic uh Trump move is offering an incentive.
Some of these folks were starting to self-deport anyway because they were afraid something would be caught about them and so on.
But you know, I I think putting all this in context, this all of this debate about the Alien Enemies Act is interesting because and I think they used it to the idea of someone in administration to avoid judicial scrutiny and move through the system because it should be a political question, non-justiciable.
But remember, we do have statutes on the book that make people like Mahmoud Khalil and others who have supported and advocated and endorsed terrorism and foreign terrorist organizations fully deportable.
There's a statute right on it.
Tom Cotton actually pinpointed this uh months ago.
But uh, you know, under AUSC 1182, you're denied entry if you encourage a member of, support, endorse, encourage others to support a foreign terrorist organization.
And under 1127, you are deportable if you violated that section.
These folks put out material supporting Hamas, encouraging others to do it, uh completely tearing down the Western way of life.
We are Westerners fighting for the total eradication of Western civiliz civilization.
All of those kinds of things.
Documents stamped by Hamas with approval and all that.
They're fully deportable.
There's not a question.
So people championing these causes and saying, well, it's a First Amendment issue.
I've advocated for First Amendment rights my entire career.
This is not a First Amendment issue.
United States Supreme Court said it 2010 and Holder.
Providing material support through actions and words for terrorist organizations is not protected First Amendment conduct.
So we're getting disinformation from Democrats in this and from the media, quite frankly.
Well, the other thing, Greg, that's happening is Democrats have have come to realize they lost this battle in terms of public opinion with the Vrago Garcia, and the the message has gone out.
No more visits to El Salvador, show visits, performative art.
Uh maybe maybe I just have to take uh David Hogg's, you know, words and and use it uh against the Democrats.
They just right now they're sucking.
Yeah, and in fact, I I was amused today when I read that the Los Angeles County Sheriff Villa de Wave has decided to forsake the Democratic Party and leave and join the Republican Party because he said of Democrats, you know, I I I'm no longer I'm not in favor of uh hate and division and purple hair and pronouns.
Uh I'm gonna join the Republican Party that cares about uh family and values and law and order.
And so, you know, Democrats have painted themselves into a corner and they don't know how to get out.
And they now have the image of caring more about terrorists and thugs and murderers and keeping them here in the United States instead of uh protecting the innocent victims of a crime who've been terrorized uh by individuals, and you know, that's what the Democratic Party stands for, and it's a losing proposition of the ballot box.
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All right, we continue now with Greg Jarrett and David Schoen.
Uh David Schoen, uh, what about people like Khalil and uh he you know, another guy, a foreign student, and the we saw what happened on Columbia's campus, for example, but other campuses around the country, and virulent anti-Semitism.
And and yet that again, the Democrats are championing that quote pro Hamas wing at college on college campuses and championing using taxpayer dollars to pay for elite institutions.
I mean, why why is Harvard getting six hundred and fifty million dollars for fiscal year twenty twenty-four when they have a fifty-three billion dollar endowment and on um one of these campuses, Columbia in particular, you know, students were being asked if they were a Zionist before they could pass certain areas where these encampments were.
That's been widely reported.
And then we're told by administrators that they should uh consider at-home learning and not go on a campus.
Uh that all went down as well after October 7th.
Yeah, it it's shocking.
I mean, it's very uh frightening for many Jewish students on campus today, but the hypocrisy behind this also is just shocking.
Again, the Trump administration, the first administration, in my memory at least, that's really taken a stand against this stuff, actively fought against anti-Semitism on campus.
And so we've seen out criticism from the Democratic side.
These hypocrites who said and did nothing, talked about free speech when Jewish students were being uh marshalled off of campus, not allowed to go to class, buildings were being taken over, and so on.
Now they're attacking the Trump administration for going after that.
You have Chuck Schumer saying that Trump is weaponizing anti-Semitism.
How dare he?
And then he tries to cloak himself in the matter of credibility because he's Jewish.
So is Jewish voices for Palestine.
They want nothing to do with Jews or Israel.
Um the hypocrisy is just shocking.
This administration is finally standing up to it.
Also, we're finally, I I filed a number of lawsuits under the auspices of a group called the National Jewish advocacy center challenging the conduct by these uh groups on campus.
We see all of these things going on.
This guy Khalil is deportable, period.
He will be deported.
And so are many others like him.
And you saw the guy last week released from jail uh while he's being deported in New England and he holds a press conference.
He's not afraid of anyone.
He wants to act like a hero.
Nothing but a supporter of terrorism.
I mean, I'll play it maybe at the bottom of this half hour, but I don't know if you saw David Portnoy, but Barstools apparently has locations around the country, and somebody wrote something virulently anti-Semitic, and David Portnoy rightly went to social media.
He was apoplectic and livid, Greg Jarrett.
But there is this part of the Democratic Party that if they're not virulently, openly anti-Semitic, they're silent in...
in the face of it.
They are, and that's why I commend David for bringing this lawsuit under the Anti-Terrorism Act against these defendant groups in New York City and particularly on the campus of Colombia who are aiding and abetting Hamas's continuing acts of terrorism there, providing substantial valuable assistance to Hamas.
And as David argues, you know, Hamas relies on these propagandists in the U.S. to do its bidding, spreading falsehood, instigating a culture of violence and fear.
And, you know, as David describes it, it's Hamas's grand strategy, developing these campus foot soldiers at Columbia University in New York.
They can and should be held liable under international law as accessories.
Their practical assistance, and their public service helps carry out acts of deadly terrorism.
And, you know, hats off to David for using the law against them.
The very charter of Hamas calls for the destruction of Israel.
Anyway, appreciate you both.
David Schoen, thank you.
Greg Jarrett, thank you.
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um thank you my friend yeah uh but I just want to say um uh about Congress and the Senate.
You you'll excuse my speech.
I I'm trying I've had a stroke, so I'm recovering.
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I'm I've known people that have had strokes, they never talk again.
Thank God you're you're recovering.
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Yeah, after six months.
But anyway, uh I'm uh Congress and the Senate.
I'm trying to get uh you know, your opinion there, and trying to get get the the theme of the um place has been get to work, you know, everybody back to the office.
And I'm starting to see where um Congress and the Senate are doing the same and leading by example.
Well, I let me let me update you because I interviewed uh last week both John Thune and Mike Johnson, and so I know where we are with the reconciliation bill.
This this is the only avenue we have, and in terms of what we can do now.
Now, the certainly the the president by even threatening tariffs, that's gonna result uh in we have over eight trillion in committed monies to build manufacturing out and bring manufacturing and high-paying career jobs back to America.
That's number one.
The president's tax cuts as part of this reconciliation package, they will be made permanent.
They'll be also including no tax on tips, social security or overtime.
That will also help the economy.
Uh they will be funding defense, but also adding more money to defense cutting.
They're cutting discretionary spending by about 20, 25 percent, uh, which we have to do.
They're eliminating waste fraud and abuse, which we have to uh do and and get rid of corruption.
You factor in the president's energy dominance policies, that will help make us wealthy again.
And so the scheduled time frame to get this bill written and without getting too deep in the weeds and getting through the arcane and very arduous process known as reconciliation, where you don't need a cloture vote in the Senate, which is sixty votes, but you can pass with a simple majority.
There there are very specific items that you you have to check off, and it has to be approved by the Senate parliamentarian, and the House then has to go along with it.
So it's it's complicated, but you know what?
They're getting there.
It's their full-time job.
It's not going to be perfect, but the only other alternative is to live under Joe Biden's budget until October 1 when the next fiscal year starts, and that's not acceptable to me.
So they're gonna and they'll they'll have money for the border in this bill.
They'll they'll have money uh set aside for deportations.
I mean, they're they're doing a lot of good things in this bill.
Oh, yeah.
And I I appreciate what he's doing, but um back to the Senate, and they I'm talking about the time frame as uh a war.
Shooting for July 4th.
No, no, but I'm saying a work week.
One one Congress and the Senate together.
They work three-day work weeks, Sean.
You know, two.
Yeah, no, well, that's part of the problem, but also the markup of these bills.
Remember, you're dealing with thousands of pages.
And again, then you have to navigate it through this very difficult legal prism of and the process known as reconciliation.
So it's it's it's complicated.
However, you know, look, today's date is the May 5th.
We're not that far away from the 4th of July.
We're it's about two months from now.
I hope they get it done, because 2026 I think is gonna be totally decided based on the state of the economy.
I believe those elections are gonna be, you know, in large part about the economy.
And because peace and prosperity always always drive elections.
Listen, William, you please uh you continue your great recovery.
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Uh Tom in North Carolina.
Hey Tom, how are you?
Doing good, doing pretty good.
I'm a little upset with the Republicans, but you know, that's normal.
Uh Rand Paul in particular.
I heard him on your show when you did an interview with him last week.
And this guy's a sucker, man.
He's talking about a CEO of one of his car companies, told him it's gonna be five thousand dollars more car for a car that's built in America and it's built in Kentucky.
That don't add up.
It don't matter if you're calculating, you know, how to figure out what the tariffs is, which is what he was talking about, which you could hire a kid to program a computer program for a couple hundred thousand dollars.
He's talking about it like it's the Obamacare website, it's gonna cost five hundred million dollars to figure out how much tariffs to pay.
Or if he's uh talking about the parts.
If we're importing the parts at twenty-five percent tariff, and it's gonna go up five thousand, that means you're using twenty thousand dollars worth of foreign parts.
That's not a met an America car.
So the way that the way that this is playing out is all these foreign car companies now are just moving their manufacturing facilities here.
And they're getting their parts from here.
And and because that they don't want to be subject to it.
Now, the only other option is is that we continue to go along with what the president inherited and what has been uh uh a consistent U.S. policy for 50, 60 years, which is these countries unfairly tariff uh American products and shut out American markets, and we continue to get ripped off and abused and taken advantage of.
Um is there uh I I think it is already in many ways worked out better than I would have anticipated.
I didn't anticipate eight trillion dollars in commitment and spending for manufacturing and factories and auto plants in America.
I didn't factor that in when the president was first talking about that.
But that money came in, those commitments came in fast and furious, and you know, it just again, and uh nobody ever wants to hear the word be patient.
Just be patient, be patient.
Uh however, we really don't have any choice.
It's gonna take time.
And and we did get kind of get to a point of consensus by the end of the interview.
If you paid close attention, is uh he wants to see the president sign these trade deals, you know, as quickly as possible in the next month or two, and I believe that's probably a strong likelihood.
And if the president does get that done, for example, uh you know, I hear we're getting close with Great Britain and India and Korea and Japan and South and uh and Taiwan and maybe Italy.
You know, once we start, you know, once he starts signing deal after deal after deal, and then you add the energy component to it with that we can sell to our allies.
I I think you're looking at foundationally, and then you add the tax cuts to it.
I think we're foundationally sound, you know, to move into a period of great economic growth and and hopefully prosperity for every American.
I want every American to do well.
The best thing that's happening is with all the deportations that'll be taking place, that's less competition for jobs, which means job wages growth will go up.
The more money people have, the more money people will pay in taxes.
The more money people pay in taxes, but it also means more money in their pockets.
More money in their pockets means more money that they'll be spending, more homes that they'll be able to afford, more cars they'll be able to buy, and and they won't have to worry about the price of eggs in the local grocery store.
So, okay, there's but there is you're you you're you're basically turning on its head a system that has been designed to hurt us for sixty years and saying, well, if you take on that system, that's gonna hurt us.
We're already being hurt.
We've just accepted the fact that we're being hurt.
And I think the president's saying it's time not to be hurt anymore, and that the playing field has to be leveled.
And that's why I support I support the president's decision, but it it can't happen soon enough for anybody, trust me.
Been living under this this horrible Biden economy for a long time.
Appreciate you, man.
Glad you're out there, Tom.
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Rudy in Illinois next Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hi, son.
Um just wanted to mention by the way, I had no idea that your governor was such a jackass.
Good grief.
Uh oh, he is, he is with that 72-inch waistline.
You know, I mean, who's he trying to kid?
But 72, he's I I think he's getting better then.
I'm glad to hear it.
Yeah, that's good.
Um I just wanted to uh to say that Tom Holman has been talking about um bringing back retired federal agents, ice agents, who have to mandatorily retire at age fifty-seven.
So uh uh with twenty years experience, you have to have twenty years at fifty-seven.
But he's talking about bringing them back to do the processing of the illegal aliens for deportation.
And uh I love that idea.
I love the idea that they announced today.
We have Christy Noam on tonight about it.
I mean, we're telling people we'll pay for your plane ticket to go home, self-deport, we'll give you a thousand dollars, and you still have an you will have an opportunity to enter the country again legally.
If you don't self-deport, you'll never have a chance to get back in.
Exactly.
And you know, a lot of people don't realize, especially the uh mainstream media that processing and deportation, uh deportation is not just putting them on a plane, it's a whole set of legal documents that they have to sign and database checks and etc.
etc.
before they're deported.
And they do have the option to appear before an immigration judge.
However, a lot of them uh don't have a good case, and the immigration judge is just gonna say, where's your evidence?
You know, what what proof do you have that you have the right to stay here?
They're being very smart about this because they understand that even that one case that you're talking about is gonna cost many, many more thousands than the thousand they'll give them in a plane ticket.
It's gonna we the amount of money we'll spend on the health care system.
I mean, look at all the the billions and hundreds of billions spent over the years in California on illegal immigrant health care and all the other states.
Now we see Texas, we're getting numbers from Texas that are just astronomical.
We're paying for all of this, and it's education, it's impacting our health care system, our criminal justice system, it's hurting every everything.
Just get out of here.
Come into the country legally.
Now's your chance to self-deport, and you'll be able to retain a right to maybe come back legally one day if you want to.
I agree hundred percent, and that's the way it should be.
And being a son of immigrants, uh, my mom was an immigrant.
My dad was born here, but I understand.
And I grew up in the Chicago area, and I've seen it all my life.
Uh the abuses, the fraud, the marriage fraud, uh, you know, driving without uh insurance, driving without licenses, theft, all sorts of stuff.
So, you know, uh this is something that most people in Congress don't realize.
You know, they live in their ivory towers, but for the rest of us, 999 nine tenths percent people live out here.
We have to uh suffer uh the consequences of their bad decisions.
Mm-hmm.
Look, uh it's simple.
If you and I were to do this, we would be held accountable.
All right, my friend, thanks for the call.
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Uh my free state of Florida, uh, let's say hi to Eduardo.
Edward, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hey, Sean, it's great to hear from you.
Um, first time calling on this on your show here.
Uh 177,000 jobs is great.
Um we need to keep on uh as far as Congress, they need to make a push on this tax bill and other bills uh because otherwise they can uh overturn these in the future.
And LA is has uh like 17 police helicopters.
You can tell the economy's doing well when they got 17 helicopter police helicopters over there.
And come on a hairs.
I just saw her on Daily Mail with her husband Doug Emmoff having uh dinner uh last night in Midtown.
You know the economy's doing well.
Is that the indication right there?
There you go, yeah.
Uh uh well Dougie there.
Look, um I can I can only uh tell you that the one thing that we want to revitalize is the American dream.
The one thing we need to get back to is freedom.
The the one thing we need to start thinking anew is the size and scope and influence of government.
I I go through my laundry list of well, what is government doing so well?
How did Obamacare promises work out?
Not well.
Uh how did it work out with Social Security and Medicare?
Not well.
How's your educational system in your small town, your big city?
Most places it's not doing very well.
Uh how's it working out with law and order and safety and security in towns and cities that have adopted, you know, defund, dismantle no bail laws, not particularly well.
So if we want to get back to constitutional order, we have got to cut back on this bureaucracy, and we have to alter our thinking away from somehow this a belief system that too many Americans have that government is going to take care of your every need from the moment you're born to the day you die.
No, in a free society, don't count on them.
They're not trustworthy.
They've proven themselves not trustworthy.
You know what?
Take advantage of the freedom and protect yourself and your family and provide for yourself and your family and work your ass off.
That's the best that's my best advice to everybody.
All right, when we come back, my interview with Secretary of State, now NSA director, Marco Rubio, and uh so much going on in the world.
There's gonna be a lot happening this week, and we'll give you a preview.
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