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Supreme Court In Action - April 29th, Hour 3
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, probably the one the one of the most consequential, transformational uh acts that will prove itself over time that the president has made since he's been elected, is eliminating the Department of Education, and that will result in all likelihood block granting money to municipalities.
The president was very clear, not states, but like different areas of states so that they can better ascertain how to spend federal tax dollars on your child's education.
And I think this just opens up a whole variety of options for parents, uh, not the least of which is you know, you can get a coalition of five parents, and and let's say they're in New York State, they get 35 grand a year, you know, that's 280,000 for four parents, and add another parent.
You can hire a teacher and you know, for five kids, pay a teacher a great amount of money, great benefits, and and have, you know, the interpersonal uh interactions that you want with kids and socialization that you want with kids, but they're gonna focus, I would bet my last dollar on reading, writing, math, science, history, and computers, and not a woke agenda and not you know, the the insanity of the left and their indoctrination.
And so I think this opens up so many different opportunities.
And we saw, for example, I mean, we pay and this is the worst part.
We pay more per capita for student on education than any other country in the industrialized world, and we have the worst results.
We're we have failed our kids spectacularly.
And if you don't get a good solid education, I keep going back to Morgan Freeman and that great scene on Lean on Me.
You will be shut out.
The the rungs to the ladder of success will be ripped out from under you, and and you're out.
And it is we're robbing these kids of all the talent God gave them when they were born, and it is unconscionable what we're doing.
And we see this case, for example, in Maryland argued last week before the Supreme Court over the idea that that parents don't even have, and this was dealing with with nursery school and kindergarteners and books that were dealing with trans issues and and you know, uh LGBTQ issues, kindergarten and nursery school.
I mean, I can't believe I I never thought I'd hear Supreme Court justices reading passages from books that are read to these kids.
That is like, you know, over the top, and their argument is that parents have the right to opt out.
I think it was very clear based on, and I never want to get ahead of where judges are gonna go, but it's it's pretty clear where this case is headed.
And that means that parents will have the right to opt out.
I personally prefer.
How about we opt in?
How about during the school day, you focus on reading, writing, math, science, history, computers, and then if parents want to opt in after school and let you know some teacher, you know, educate their kids on trans issues, uh sexual content, et cetera, then let parents opt in after school and stop wasting precious school time.
That's my idea.
Now, in Oklahoma, they have a statewide uh charter school board versus Drummond case that is now going.
And anyway, Oklahoma should be able to choose the best schools for their charter school program.
The Constitution prevents the state from excluding schools simply because they are religious.
And anyway, Oklahoma law creates a charter school program.
It invites private organizations to apply to operate charter schools in the state, except the state law says religious groups cannot participate.
U.S. Supreme Court repeatedly has said that a state violates the free exercise clause of the First Amendment if it establishes a program but excludes otherwise qualified religious organizations.
By the way, in that case of Maryland, you had an interesting coalition of different faiths, uh people of the Christian faith, uh people that were Muslim, people that were uh uh Jewish, all combining, all agreeing on the principle that parents at least should have the option to opt out.
We have Erica Donalds who's gonna join us in a minute.
She goes through the importance of the Supreme Court and how they must uphold the right of parents in this particular case and other cases.
Listen.
Well, this case is so important to uphold, as you said, the rights of parents to direct the upbringing of their children, whether that is religious, moral, character building, academic, we believe that parents must be in the driver's seat.
They have to be decision makers.
And in this particular case, there was an opt-out, but so many parents opted out of this controversial curriculum, which was being given to pre-K through sixth graders with radical gender ideology.
It was disruptive to the school day.
But instead of addressing the controversial curriculum and respecting parents' rights, Montgomery County decided to take the opt-out away completely and fight it all the way to the Supreme Court.
Really, we should address that these are not age-appropriate books.
And why are they being embedded into the English curriculum instead of a specifically sexual uh content curriculum that parents can opt out of?
There is an ideological bent here that the school district is allowing through public tax dollars, let's remember.
But this is why parents are opting out in a different way and plummeting uh district enrollments across the country.
55%, according to Gallup, are dissatisfied with the American public school system.
Parents are losing faith in the ability to trust the public school system to uphold their values and respect their religious liberties.
I lost faith in them a long time ago.
Anyway, Erica Donalds is the chair of America First Policy Institute's Center for Educational Opportunity.
Uh welcome back, Erica.
Uh let's talk about this case and more importantly, the importance of educational freedom, uh, parental rights, equal treatment of religious people and organizations.
Well, thanks again for having me, Sean.
It's always great to talk to you, and I really appreciate you talking about this important issue of upholding the rights of parents to make decisions for their children.
This is yet another case that reinforces the fact that parents must be in the driver's seat.
The case I was just talking about is the government schools trying to implement their own value system and ideology into children's lives in a compulsory manner.
This case, where I will be in front of the Supreme Court tomorrow at the rally, the Drummond case, which would allow parents to choose a religious virtual charter school, is basically the opposite.
It's allowing parents to opt into a value system, a religious belief that they want their children to learn.
And so instead of uh Oklahoma siding with parents and their ability to choose a high quality uh educational environment for their children, they want to trap them in an environment that they don't want that is not working for their students, we know the best thing is to give parents the multitude of options that they deserve.
Well I think this is a no-brainer.
When you when you heard the Supreme Court and the arguments that will put before it in the Maryland case and and you hear justices, you know, reading from these books that are designed for pre-K and and kindergarten and and this the sexual content and controversial content of even transgenderism and LGBTQ.
I mean to me value should be instilled by parents not by school not not by not by teachers that have an agenda.
I mean I don't want people that have values that are contrary to mine instilling them in our kids.
Now they have a right to demand the kids behave but short of that that's not their job.
When as a parents were not potted plants.
And and yet their message is we're the experts parents you don't belong here in the school board uh chambers in the classrooms telling us what to teach and how to teach it.
But parents have had enough they saw during COVID the ideology that was being pushed upon their young children and they don't want it.
I have long said that if you think there's no, quote, religion taught in public schools, you're crazy.
They're teaching their own brand of progressive religion, progressive values on our children.
And we absolutely not only have the ability to opt out of that and take the funding with us, but to choose.
Why do we have to opt out?
Well, why are we giving up?
Our kids can't read and write.
There are schools all over the country where kids are not at grade level in reading and writing and math.
And why are we taking precious time away from those core subjects that will create the foundation for them to be successful in their lives and wasting time on a moral agenda that in many cases contradicts the values of parents?
Why are we wasting that time?
How about you opt in after school and you can have all the transgenderism the parents want to opt into?
Absolutely.
I have run classical charter schools and I can tell you there is more classically.
literature in existence than you can fit into 13 years noncontroversial teaching values that everyone can agree we want our children to have resilience courage honesty.
There's plenty of those types of books to put into the schools that would not be controversial but that's not their goal Sean.
Their goal is social engineering they've been doing it for decades we and I you know the collective we conservatives have been asleep at the wheel we've been allowing it to happen now we've got to root it out completely Trump has done an amazing job over the first hundred days with a lot of his executive orders and setting the tone from the top but it takes those of us on the ground going to school board meetings and fighting these case by case every time it shows itself to do exactly what you said.
opt in or opt out completely of the public schools and take your money elsewhere to a private education for your child.
You know, I was fortunate in especially in the grammar school years of my kids to send them to a private school.
And, you know, because they were athletes, I ended up sending them to a very good public school system.
But I always supplemented the education they got in school and they dedicated a lot of time to their sports, which paid off for both of them.
And I think significant ways and and had tutors and all they focused on and focus on, you know, wokeism or or transism or the Green New Deal or LGBTQ plus anything.
That's my job.
I'm the parent and I instill my values in my kids.
And then when they become adults, they either accept it or reject it.
Thank goodness my kids agree with everything I say.
Not really, but mostly.
And Sean, every parent should have that opportunity.
That's why we fight so hard for school choice and true education freedom in every state.
Kudos to Texas that just passed a huge school choice bill.
It's going to get signed by the governor on Saturday.
But more and more states are turning to school choice to allow parents that same opportunity to choose a private school environment that's best for their child.
Maybe homeschool, maybe online school, maybe some micro schooler.
co-op that is the direction that we need to go in this country and when parents are choosing between options not only will academic performance increase which has been proven through numerous studies but they will also be competing for aligning with the parents values just as we've been talking about a A school that a parent can opt out of is not going to pull this kind of crap, hiding things from parents, putting in controversial curriculum because they'll lose the students and they'll lose the money.
I know you have to run, uh, but we really appreciate your time as always.
Erica Donald's, thank you so much for being with us.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
Anytime.
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Big time AJ Houston, Texas.
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How are you?
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How's my buddy Joe Paggs doing after he got squatted?
What a story.
Oh my God.
Sean.
Um guy.
He said he didn't uh uh, you know, had none Biden was the best guy on the planet.
Trump had the best 100 days.
Biden had the worst four years, and he said he never met him.
But wait a minute, he campaigned for him.
And then you got all these judges going for all this crazy crap with the illegals.
Sean, we can go on and on and talk about how dirty rats these people are, and how they just let the country down.
Thank God for Donald Trump.
That man is a God saying man.
And good Lord know we needed him like a bad habit because of the fact that what the Democrats did to this country, the four years Biden was in there, the media just slipped it right out of the under the bus.
I put it this way the media didn't take the banana out the tailpipe.
I'm being nice.
The media didn't take the banana out of the tailpipe, and you're being nice.
Well, that's one way to put it.
You are a wordsmith big time.
Uh no doubt about it.
But uh I listen, I don't think hey it in he what he's done more importantly, and we have his greatest visible success on the borders, obviously, and securing them and the deportation orders that keep going out.
And but he has laid the foundation for American Economic success.
I do believe we'll get to the issue of free and fair trade.
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I do believe we're now seeing the benefits of his energy programs.
Uh news about that earlier today, which I I touched on briefly in the program.
I mean, the idea that America now is producing more energy already than they have before.
And I I just think that, you know, given time, the president's gonna have a lot of wins and rack up a lot of points with the American people.
I think it's gonna be, you know, a very, very exciting time for the country to get back on track and return to constitutional order.
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Big time AJ, Houston, Texas.
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So it is getting obnoxious to the point I can't take it anymore.
Joe Biden's cognitive decline was obvious to everybody.
We were the first to go hard at it, and we were brutally, you know, attacked for it at the time.
Linda, you remember it wasn't that long ago.
This was before the 2020 election.
And Joe Biden was not the same Joe Biden we had previously known.
He was a cognitive mess from the get-go.
And it got progressively worse and more obvious during the four years he was president to the point you just never would hardly ever see or hear from him.
And it was pathetic.
And one of his closest friends when he was a senator and vice president was Chris Coons of Delaware.
And now everybody is being asked after the what do you call it?
You know, that stupid White House correspondence dinner.
Uh where you have Did you see the pictures of poor Humpty Dumpty on the train and he took his shoes off and was walking around and Amtrak specifically says you can't walk around with your shoes off?
Wait, on the train he did that?
I didn't see that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you got to see the pictures.
They're priceless.
I'll send them to you.
I know.
I was gonna show it on TV.
I'm like, nobody knows even.
They called them Humpty Dumpty in the post.
It was pretty funny.
Um and you know, this is a guy that just is obsessed with Fox 24 7.
Um, he's like a stalker.
Anyway, but Chris Coogan's, you know, claims oh, it was only Biden's debate performance.
That was the first time he'd seen any obvious cognitive decline.
I call complete and total BS on all of them.
They all saw it, they all were worried about it.
They all they all lied and covered it up because they they just didn't want Republicans to win or Donald Trump specifically to win.
That's what really happened.
And anyone that says anything else, I I just call complete BS on all of them.
Here's Chris Kuhn's.
Well, John, obviously, if I had any idea uh that President Biden was gonna perform as poorly as he did at that debate, uh, I would have been um advising him differently and advocating differently.
That debate performance was the first time I saw anything like that out of President Biden.
Uh, he had been and was a strong and capable president, and he still had strong public performances, interviews, uh, and uh just the next day went to North Carolina uh and spoke forcefully at a rally.
But I was shocked.
I was genuinely surprised by that performance that evening and was wrestling with what it meant for our path forward.
Oh, struggling and wrestling.
Yeah.
Look some of the political players and some of the let me ask rhetorical question.
No, it was it was that bad, and it was that bad for years.
It's amazing we survived this.
And then you got little Chucky Todd, I guess, you know, no longer at MSDNC, and I guess trying to create relevance.
He's a so angry at a right-wing manufactured claim that the media covered up Biden's decline.
They did cover it up.
They hit it.
They didn't focus on it.
If it was Donald Trump, you know they would have.
Listen.
This is not a media failure.
This is a failure of the Democratic Party.
And I just sort of sort of the virtue signaling that some people have done to try to say that the media missed this story.
They didn't miss this story.
David Ignatius wrote, I I just refuse to accept this this stupid premise because it's a right-wing manufactured right-wing premise in order to stain the media.
The media's got plenty of things to attack them for, and there are MSNBC and CNN and pundits that absolutely carried water for Joe Biden.
But that doesn't, they're not journalists.
They're former strategists that carried water for Joe Biden.
The journalist, David Ignatius, wrote a very high profile column in October of 23 saying, is he really running again?
This doesn't seem like a good idea.
People like me were promoting Dean Phillips' campaign because he was running Wall Street Journal Media Lines.
So I, you know, it it's not like this.
This isn't WMD's, where the White House worked with the mainstream media to manufacture a story that did not exist.
That was a press failure.
Massive press failure.
This was not that failure.
This is an attempt by some to Virtue Signal, and it's this horrible sort of pitting different news organizations against each other when ultimately the people at fault are Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Jill Biden, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, every elected member of Congress.
By the way, he's no Tim Rushert.
That's why he's gone.
Just isn't.
And it's pretty pathetic.
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Ted, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Sean.
King of the world, man.
I'm not the king of anything.
I'm the king of my own mind.
What's going on?
There's only one king.
That's Jesus, not me.
I know.
He is the he uh he is the savior.
Amen.
What's going on?
They've got to stop the deportations.
Please stop the deportations.
I'm losing my businesses up here in the north.
Bernie and I cannot make it happen.
We're losing our employees.
Oh, so you want the cheap labor, and you don't really care if these unvetted Biden Harris illegals have, you know, terror associations or cartel members or gang members or murderers or rapists.
You we don't know anything about them.
You you want the cheap labor.
I know you're being facetious.
It's invading taxes.
I don't have to pay taxes on them.
I don't have to please stop the deportations.
So you want it for your own benefit.
I thought look, you there is some truth to what you're saying.
There are people, and and Republicans too, that have always wanted cheap labor.
And uh I get it.
I understand you want to lower your costs as much as possible.
Look, I I in a sense I run my own business.
And one of the things that I have never a practice I've never really engaged in is not paying people what I you know, a decent well-earned wage.
And I expect a lot from people that I hire.
I just do.
This this this if you work in this industry, if you work on my radio show or TV show, you better be ready to roll up your sleeves and get to work every day.
And I try to, you know, be nice to people and give them the latitude that they need to do the things that I are important to them.
And you know, I learned very quickly what people's strengths and weaknesses are, and you know, as long as uh the job gets done, I I try to be as hands-off as possible.
You know, for those people that you know, if you're doing uh whatever, whatever whatever task it might be that maybe doesn't require a lot of thought or education.
Um, I'm sorry, I just you know, you're gonna have to pay the freight and pay American workers and not take advantage of the system and do things legally.
That's it.
You know, it's not that much to ask.
Appreciate the call, Ted.
Thank you.
Uh, let's say hi to Michael, the Texas, God bless Texas Michael.
How are you?
Uh, just fine.
Uh, thank you for letting me get my voice out there on this immigration policy.
Uh here in Texas, I don't know if it's still on the books because I don't have access to the law library, just uh online stuff that you read, but uh we have a law here that makes it illegal to hire rent to or give any kind of aid, Tell somebody where to get aid if you're here illegally.
Now, if we took and made that a national law and find the owners of the companies that are hiring them, say five thousand dollars per person, the people that are renting to them, fine them five thousand dollars per person.
They would l let these people go.
The people would not have any reason to stay here, and they would self-deport without taxpayer money funding it.
Now that's that's that's pure and simple.
Uh I don't know why they haven't uh Governor Gregg hasn't enforced this law, but uh we have a lot, and it is both sides of the aisle, Democrat and Republicans, they both own ranches and farms down here, and they all use illegals.
Now I'm speaking as a retired 45-year construction worker, and every time a president gave amnesty to all of these millions of illegals down through the years, guess what?
I was out of a job.
And it got so bad that I couldn't get a job non-union, so I joined uh uh the the union.
And I really didn't want to because I'm not a socialist, I'm not a communist, uh, but I needed a job, and that was the only place that I could get a job.
Now, if we if if we get rid of all of these illegals, yes, it's gonna hurt some restaurants and some packing industries for a little while.
It'll force them to raise their wages up to something that somebody can actually live on and solve the problem without our taxpayer money.
Listen, I'm just gonna tell you right now, it's very, very simple.
First, we do it for national safety and security.
Second, if you don't have borders, you don't have a country.
Third, uh, we are a nation governed by the rule of law.
And if you want to come into our country, I really have no problem with it.
I think we need a background check, knowing that there are enemies of our country that would like to commit violent acts against Americans and acts of terrorism against our country, then after in a post-COVID world, I would say we absolutely positively need some type of health check, and then we've got to means test people.
You cannot be a financial burden on the American people.
I mean, the amount of money that we're spending, billions of dollars, for example, on health care.
And then you've got the impact it's having on the educational system and the criminal justice system.
And and then worse, then you have people unvetted in the country that are uh that are capable of committing you know, rape, murder, and and other violent crimes.
Oh, we've got to get control of it.
I I've had to deal with them.
Uh go into the laundromat and put my laundry in to dry and go out and sit in my vehicle to read a book and go back in, and lo and behold, I've I'm instead of five pairs of pants I have in there, there's only three pairs of pants.
So you know, the the uh people coming from poor countries basically are all thieves of opportunity.
They may not go out looking for it, but if the opportunity rises, they will take it.
But now they're taking our jobs, and uh, like I say, I I ended up having to join the union, and I ended up working at a union contractor that was actually using illegal aliens.
So uh if we pass the law and find the owners of the company, not not anybody else, just the owners of the company, five thousand dollars per person, you watch them beat feet to Mexico in a hurry.
They'll go back across the border so fast.
Well, right now they have an opportunity that they've given, and I forget what the deadline is that they can self-deport, and if they self-deport, they'd have a chance to come back to the country.
If they don't self-deport, they'll never have that chance again.
And then when they are deported, it's over for them.
Anyway, I have to run.
I do appreciate your call.
800-941 Shauna's on number.
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