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If you want to be a part of the program, as we reported in the last hour, so we now have it revealed that Kilmar Obrego Garcia, the deported cause celeb of the radical left, deported El Salvadorian man, not a Marylander.
They keep saying a Marylander.
No, he wasn't a Marylander.
Anyway, at the center of this intense political debate, that Democrats are now beginning to wonder if this is a political fight worth having.
Now, there's a lot of questions here, and also questions that Democrats now have gone all in on Abrego Garcia.
They've gone all in on this pro-Hamas, former Columbia student leading these protests on campus.
Those are the ones where they were asking people if they're Zionists or not.
And now the question is whether or not these are civil rights violations at some point.
And we're going to talk to Harmee Dillon, who is the Assistant Attorney for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Justice in just a second about this.
But I want to remind you, let's go back to the wife of Brego Garcia.
And remember, in writing, her own handwriting, she not once but twice told police that her husband was a wife beater.
Let's just remind you of what she said when asked about this.
And I know this is a sensitive question, but I have to ask it.
You did take out a temporary order of protection against your husband in 2021.
Were you in fear of your husband?
My husband is alive.
That's all I can say.
Are you in fear of your husband?
My husband's alive.
That's not an answer.
And then if you listen to prominent Democrats led by Chris Van Holland, you know, he was asked twice this weekend if Abrego Garcia is a member of MS-13, as not one, but two separate judges had ascertained and determined and classified him as.
Listen.
Can you say with absolute certainty that he is not, nor has he ever been a member of the MS-13 gang?
And did you ask him point blank?
Well, Dan, what Donald Trump is trying to do here is change the subject.
The subject at hand is that he and his administration are defying a court order to give Abrego Garcia his due process rights.
But since you were the one person to have met with him, and since this is a thing, you say on social media, it's what we hear from Donald Trump and Republicans every day, all day long, you didn't ask him?
I didn't ask him that because I know what his answer is.
What he told me was he was sad, traumatized that he was being in prison because he has committed no crimes.
Now, remember, this is the same Chris Van Holland.
He wouldn't answer the question.
You know, did you ask, is he a member of MS-13?
Trump is trying to change the subject.
No, he's not, because it's extraordinarily relevant.
And you had not won.
You had Kayla Hamilton.
You had Rachel Morin, mother of five, both raped brutally and murdered brutally in his state of Maryland.
And this jackass wouldn't pick up a telephone and call the family and offer his deepest condolences and sympathy that had happened.
He went along with the big lie that the border is secure, the border is closed, and Joe Biden is not a cognitive mess.
Anyway, what can the DOJ do about this?
Harmeet Dillon is with us, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice.
Harmeet, welcome to the program.
Thanks for being with us.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
Okay, so if you're a designated MS-13 member and two judges decide, how is this the civil rights case of the century?
Now, I think this is backfiring on Democrats because we know more and more about the history, but what can your department do?
Because I think this is a civil rights issue because obviously Lake and Riley, Jocelyn Nungari, Kayla Hamilton, Rachel Morin, they didn't have an opportunity to have their due justice, if you will.
Well, so first of all, there are definitely different departments of the Department of Justice and other agencies that are dealing with this particular situation.
And all of them, all of the illegal aliens coming into this country, they pose criminal threats.
They pose terrorist threats.
They pose drug importation threats.
So this is a multi-agency problem.
At a fundamental level, I think every human being has a natural right and a civil right to be free from this kind of violence and harassment.
So at some point, one might ask whether there have been conspiracies by different organizations colluding with government officials to let people like this into the country.
And, you know, that would be a civil rights issue for the civil rights division to look at.
Well, I think it's important because obviously if you're raped and murdered, your civil rights were violated, weren't they, by definition?
That's the most basic right is the right to life.
I would think so.
Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
So much for that.
You know, the most frustrating thing here, and maybe you can analyze what's going on in the minds of Democrats.
Why have they gleaned onto this with such fervor and such passion?
And meanwhile, almost all of them, without exception, never picked up a phone and called the victims of the illegal immigrants in this country that came under Biden and Harris unvetted that are responsible for murder and rape and so many other violent crimes.
Tell me why they prioritize this as something bigger and more extraordinary to take care of.
Well, from a political science perspective, it's really puzzling to see senators having margaritas with gangbangers and making them sympathetic as if that's something that the public wants.
I don't think the public wants it.
Well, wait a minute.
You don't have margaritas with gangbangers, really?
I mean, I wouldn't recommend it if I were a political consultant, even to the other side of the aisle.
But I think stepping back from this particular situation, they've been on autopilot promoting illegal aliens coming into this country for decades, conflating legal immigrants with illegal immigrants, disrespecting our border, and then also trying to prevent states from actually verifying citizenship when it comes to federal voting.
So that is, again, something that we deal with in the Civil Rights Division is protecting our right to vote.
And so overall, Democrats have had this agenda for many decades, and they can't help themselves.
It's the autopilot that they're on.
The other cause celeb that they are clinging on to is one of the organizers.
He had graduated.
I guess he got a PhD or an advanced degree at Columbia University.
But if you go back to, you know, post the October 7th attack on Israel from 2023, you had all of these pro-Hamas protesters on these college campuses.
And one of the leaders was this guy, Khalil.
He is not an American citizen.
He is now being held in a detention center in Louisiana.
And now Democratic congressmen and women have taken up his cause.
I'm not sure, Harmie, maybe you can explain to me, because on that date, that will live in infamy in Israel.
They had the equivalent of losing 40,000 Americans if you extrapolate out their population size versus ours in a single day.
Can you imagine 40,000 dead Americans?
We lost 2,977 on 9-11-01.
And I'm not sure what part of murder, rape, kidnapping, and torture the left is having a hard time understanding here.
Look, I can't disagree with you at all.
It was a horrific act.
The fact that anybody within our borders, much less people seeking to be here permanently, would take that position and lawmakers would endorse that person staying in the country is shocking.
It shocks the conscience, really, Sean.
So I don't know politically if they think this plays well.
And maybe it would some segments of the voting populace.
I think those segments are pretty small.
And I think that tallies right into the work that we're doing at civil rights to eradicate anti-Semitism on campuses all over the country.
That's a huge problem.
It's happening on investigating over 60 campuses in the United States.
So this virus is infecting the minds of the majority of the Americans going to college today, and it's a huge problem that we're fighting here in civil rights.
I know you're working closely with my friend and former colleague, Leo 2.0 Terrell, and he has planned, and he actually delayed it in light of what's been going on with Harvard.
And the fact that we spend a whopping $656 million, or we spent in fiscal year 24 for Harvard, and meanwhile, they got $53.
What, $53 billion, which is about like $8 million a student, which is insane.
And we give them one penny, and I don't think they deserve their tax-exempt status either.
But that's a different argument for a different day.
But the plan is to go to college campuses.
What are you going to be looking for?
Because if you remember in Columbia, there were reports that students were being asked if they're a Zionist.
And if they answered affirmatively, they were not allowed to pass.
Now, I thought these universities were bastions of wokeness and acceptance and tolerance, et cetera, but apparently not if you're Jewish.
Well, since we have multiple ongoing lawsuits and investigations, I won't get into any specifics, but let me give you the big picture, which is we are looking into multiple investigations, including civil pattern of practice cases in the UC system under Title VII, which is employment in employment discrimination against people of the Jewish faith.
We filed a statement of interest in federal courts supporting Jewish students at UCLA have been barred from going to their classes by activists.
We're working with DOJ attorneys and the Department of Education and civil rights groups nationwide to identify these cases.
I saw the horrific situation at Yale two nights ago and spoke to, was communicating with some students over there, and luckily we saw Yale step up.
And it was not luckily, I should say, it is because the Department of Justice under Pam Bondi's leadership and with Leo Terrell and others making noise about this issue that schools are beginning to self-correct.
So yesterday, Yale revoked the student organization status of the individuals who are harassing Orthodox Hiddic Jewish students and preventing them from going to class on Tuesday night.
Quick break, right back more with Harmee Dillon, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice.
We'll get to your calls on the other side as well.
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Harmee Dillon is with us, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Justice.
What do you make of and what might be done to remedy what had happened in the last administration?
And I believe, and we have chronicled often on this program and on my television show, how the Department of Justice under Merrick Garland and Joe Biden have been weaponized and politicized.
And the same with the FBI and our intelligence community.
How do you remedy the way Christians have been treated in this country, pro-life Americans that were peacefully protesting, that were brought into the court system and the legal system?
Is there a remedy that maybe your division will be looking into?
Well, the first remedy is when the president nominated someone who cares about those issues to this position.
I have spent my career representing people of faith and one case at the Supreme Court involving the rights of Christians to pray during COVID.
And the President's Executive Order 14202 eradicating anti-Christian bias takes aim at the federal government itself, in which there has been discrimination against Christians in various factors, including Christians who objected to the vaccine mandates being dismissed from the military.
And our Secretary of Defense, Pete Hag Seth, is inviting those folks back.
There's so many other incidents.
We're also in the civil rights division representing and taking action against criminals who are interfering with the right of people of faith, including many Christians, to pray without fear of violence, firebombing, fake bombs being strapped into churches and so forth.
We are taking aim on discriminatory zoning happening throughout the United States under a federal statute that protects the right of people of faith to be able to buy and use real estate to expand their houses of worship.
And so it goes on and on.
We absolutely are a faith-friendly administration.
Our constitution and our founders were faith-friendly.
And I'm very passionate about this issue, Sean.
So both on the anti-Semitic and the anti-Christian bias issues.
We are extremely active already in this administration, and it's only going to ramp up as we staff up here in civil rights.
I was just listening to you.
You have to defend the right to pray during COVID.
It's kind of unimaginable that that would be a topic we'd ever discuss.
What do you make?
And we only have a minute left of assassination culture.
The radical left, some of them praising Luigi Mangioni, the guy accused of assassinating the United Healthcare CEO, or those that are pro-Hamas, or those that cheer on domestic terrorism against Tesla, bullets fired into Tesla dealerships and charging stations set ablaze and Tesla set ablaze and owners being doxxed.
What can happen with that?
It is sickening.
And, you know, it isn't accidental, Sean, that people are joking about assassination and casually talking about it.
There's a culture, there's a permissive culture in our media and social media that enables this.
So every decent person, I think, has a moral duty to stand up when people say stupid things like that and say, that's gross.
That's unacceptable.
You're canceled.
I'm not going to be standing here and listening to this because that's not acceptable because that leads to these assassinations and this violence.
And so we need to shut that down.
Armit Dillon, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Justice.
Armit, thank you for being with us and keep up the good work.
We appreciate your time.
It's my pleasure.
Thank you, Sean.
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David Hogg is the DNC vice chair, and he has pledged to raise, and pledging money himself, hundreds of millions of dollars to primary Democrats, pretty much if they're not towing the hardcore Jasmine Crockett AOC squad left-wing line and being left-wing radical activists.
Here's what he said.
Look at the last results of the previous election.
Those are the purported experts that brought us here.
Just to say.
And I want to be clear.
All this money that we're raising is not only being spent on primaries by any means.
That is the story that a lot of journalists and media run with.
We are working on the story.
What do you guys think it on?
We're also going to be spending it on frontline seats where great young people are running, right?
If they are the Democratic nominee to make sure we're bringing in fresh faces to Congress.
Right now, we talk about diversity all the time in Congress.
One of the things that we don't talk about as much in regard to that is age.
Currently, if we had the same number of 25 to 30-year-olds in Congress as we do proportionally to the population, we would have over 40 people under the age of 30 in Congress.
And I don't know if you've looked at Congress recently.
We have one that is under the age of 30.
That is not good for the future of the Democratic Party, but there are members too, because it's not just a matter of age.
It is a matter of effectiveness.
People say, well, David, is this just out with the old and in with the new?
I would say, no.
This is out with the ineffective and in with the effective because we need members who are ready to meet this moment to fight back against Donald Trump and what hype back against Trump.
Resistance, resistance, resistance.
I mean, it's like a broken record.
Now, the interesting part of this, and this is where the intramural squabble now has ratcheted up.
Now, remember, David Hogg is the DNC vice chair.
The DNC chair is Ken Martin.
Here's what he says and how he rebukes David Hogg primary is his idea to primary other Democrats or elected Democrats currently in office.
Listen.
Let me be unequivocal.
No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger.
If you want to challenge incumbents, you're more than free to do that, but just not as an officer of the DNC because our job is to be neutral arbitraries.
We can't be both the referee and also the player at the same time.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, 800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, let us go to Raymond.
He's in the United Socialist Utopia known as California, Gavin Newsome Country.
What's up, Raymond?
How are you?
Hi, Sean.
Great.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Yeah, this.
Like I said, I live in California.
I was just retired about a year ago as a correction officer for 30 years.
And this whole thing with Garcia, these tattoos, they're not accidental.
These are badges of honor.
They have to work to get.
In fact, to be caught with one of those tattoos on you and you're not a gang member, it's like a death sentence in prison at least.
And I don't understand why they can't.
In fact, that's also one of the ways that the prison validates you as a gang member.
Simple tattoo on your arm.
Well, let me ask you this question.
I brought this up yesterday.
Why would anybody ever get tattoos that are related to MS-13 or Trende or Aragua or any of these gangs if they weren't associated with the gangs?
Doesn't make any sense to me.
I don't think the average person is saying, you know what?
I think I'm going to get an MS-13 tattoo if they're not a member of MS-13.
They would kill you in prison if you had it done and you weren't a member, like a full-fledged member.
Right.
And by the way, when you would, by the way, my mom was a retired corrections officer, spent most of her adult life doing double shifts in jail, which I believe killed her at a young age.
Yeah, I did.
And it's a very, very hard job.
And she probably was not in.
Like, what kind of prison were you in?
Maximum security, minimum security?
For the second half of my career, all maximum.
And I did 30 years, and my last 15, 16 is in the level four.
Yeah, in Delaney.
Are you dealing with the worst of the worst?
Oh, yeah.
On a daily.
And, you know, how did you?
I used to ask my mother this, and she didn't want to talk about it.
And she didn't want to answer me.
But I'd ask, well, how do you deal with these people?
Because even though it was a county jail, they had everybody that was accused of murder and awaiting trial or whatever.
They had the whole spectrum of people there.
And I was like, well, how do you deal with these people?
And she said, I'm just very firm.
And I show them respect, but I'm also a very clear.
And towards the end of her career, she would take them to court and tell them, if you run on my watch, I will shoot you.
She did tell me that.
And you policy, and that's changed in California.
Can't do that, which is why that last guy did.
So they run and you let them get away if you can't catch him?
That's the new policy.
They're not allowed to shoot him.
Well, that's a great policy.
I'm not saying to shoot the person in the back.
I'm just saying, you know, you got to take them down.
You can't let an accused murderer, you know, just run away from a guard.
That's why you put shackles on them and so on and so forth.
But that was always part of the deals.
But it was her way of just saying to them, all right, let's have an understanding here.
I got a job to do.
You're going to court.
You're not getting away.
You're not getting away on my watch.
And then she would tell me that, you know, a lot of prisoners at the time, they allowed smoking in prisons.
She would give them cigarettes and she would be nice to them.
And people were grateful for that.
A cigarette in prison means a lot to a prisoner.
Oh, yeah.
It's outlawed in California now, but that was their trade.
Now it's soups, but a good currency in prison back in the day was cigarettes.
I mean, what was it like when they stopped smoking?
All hell must have broken loose.
It was hard because they would sneak it in at that point.
Then it became actually more valuable.
And did they always get it?
I mean, did you smell cigarettes and weed like all the time?
Constantly.
That was always, it was either coming in, they were either getting it in through their visitors, or I sorry to say, you know, bad, dirty cops or dirty ancillary staff would bring it in, sell it to them, however, they get it in.
And you know what?
Everyone kind of turns a blind eye to it.
Let's be honest about it.
They just, and, and what do they call that alcohol that they make?
I watch these prison shows where they ferment the fruit.
What is that called?
It's called Pruneau, P-R-U.
That's it.
Oh, it's smells disgusting.
Oh, when you're walking through the city.
I mean, if these prisoners would spend their lives, they can be very clever, genius, even.
If they just spend that time doing things that are productive, they'd probably be very successful.
That's the irony of that.
It's sad.
One of the guys literally, through paint that he made in prison with items around, he painted this incredible mural in the officer's office years ago.
And it was like, I mean, just world-class talent.
But, you know, they did what they did.
I know it's so sad.
I mean, and it just is, it just wasted human talent.
It's so bad.
Raymond, glad you put in 30 hard years.
I hope you get a good retirement and are enjoying your life, my friend.
You deserve it.
Anyway, 800-941-Sean is our number.
If you want to be a part of the program, Michael, my free state of Florida.
Michael, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call and you and your staff.
It was wonderful.
My question is from yesterday on parental rights.
Why must we opt out of everything?
The damage that will be done already.
Why don't they put a thing together where we have to opt into, and this goes across the board, not just within the school?
I agree with you.
What you're talking about is the Maryland school case that was argued yesterday before the Supreme Court, I assume.
Yes.
I never thought I'd hear a Supreme Court justice, in this case, Gorsuch, asking the attorney representing Montgomery County Public Schools about books like Pride Puppy that tells the story of a family celebrating Pride Day when their dog gets lost in the parade and an effort to reunite the pup with his loved ones.
And it's a rhyming alphabet book described as affirming and inclusive.
And apparently the book was previously used in the district's pre-K curriculum.
Now we're talking about kids in nursery school and they're being used in English language instruction Gorsuch has at the age of three.
And anyway, that was one book.
Then there was another book, you know, where they're supposed to look for leather and things and bondage.
The lawyer responded, it's not bondage, it's a woman in leather.
Gorsuch says, a sex worker?
No, that's not correct.
I mean, this is what's going on in our Supreme Court.
Well, Gorsuch then goes, well, I read it.
Drag Queen.
Then the lawyer goes, well, the letter is actually a woman in a leather jacket, and that one of the words is drag queen.
These are for kids in kindergarten.
What the hell is wrong with this?
You're right.
Why do we have to opt out?
How about they opt in?
You want to do this?
Do it on your own time after school.
And let's spend the rest of the day focused on reading, writing, math, science, history, and computers.
Why don't we do that?
Yeah, that would be, that's what we need to do.
And that goes across the board, not just within the school systems, but everywhere.
It's always opt out.
And the damage is already done.
We need to be able, the standard should be opt-in, period.
Now, maybe you can get Jonathan Turley to take on this one.
But a side note would be, do we need to get power of attorney for our children before they go to school so they can't talk to them, period.
I'll just tell you something.
When you add into this equation that we spend more per capita per student than any industrialized country with the worst results, and then you look at this crap that we're even arguing before the Supreme Court, it's unimaginable.
What has gone wrong here?
You know, people have lost any sense of prioritizing the things that are really important.
If you want to be successful in this country, the ladder to success is education.
If you don't get that core education, Joe Clark, we've played a scene from Lean on Me, a great role played by Morgan Freeman.
And it was the real life story of Joe Clark, a Patterson, New Jersey principal.
And he's like, if you don't have these basic schools, you will be shut out.
And that is a fact.
If you don't have fundamentals and basics, you will be shut out.
And that American dream will not be yours.
Anyway, got a roll, my friend.
Appreciate you being with us.
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Hey, Desiree, how are you?
I'm blessed.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
I'm calling as I'm a taxpayer, and I'm outraged with these organizations like Harvard, University of California, Planned Parenthood, Walt Disney, Boeing.
They all receive federal funding or tax benefits, and every taxpayer works hard for their money.
And for them to directly or indirectly use it to heavily donate to the Democrat Party, and many taxpayers don't believe in that, and they don't want their taxpaying money that they've worked hard for going to the Democrat Party for what they stand for.
Well, I mean, why should union members, for example, be, you know, why should rank and file money ever go to one party if they don't believe in that cause?
I'll tell you right now, the unions, they didn't endorse in this last election a lot of them.
And I think the shift is imminent because Donald Trump clearly, by getting $8 trillion in investments, by threatening tariffs on these countries and then implementing them, these countries are going to invest in plants here.
It's going to be good for American workers.
We're talking about high-paying career jobs for people.
And they're the party of working men and women from now on.
And Democrats are a bunch of coastal elitist jackasses that want to shove EVs in our driveway, take away our gas stoves, our air conditioner, and our refrigerators, and tell us how to live our lives.
I'm like, get out of my life.
Leave me alone.
I believe in freedom.
I do too.
And I think that's a huge problem nowadays is many people want to enjoy that freedom, but it seems other companies stop wasting our money.
Stop spending money on new green dealism, transgenderism, wokeism, LGBTQism abroad.
Hundreds of billions of dollars.
What are we doing?
No wonder why we're stealing from our kids and grandkids who are robbing their future.
Anyway, you make great points, Desiree.
God bless you.
God bless Texas.
We really appreciate your call.
Thanks for being there.
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