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Bill O'Reilly - April 23rd, Hour 2

Bill O’Reilly, author of the upcoming book, Confronting Evil Assessing the Worst of the Worst, gives his take on the week thus far post Easter.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mr. O'Reilly, sir, always a pleasure.
I have a question.
You're a smart guy.
Um, you understand the the political winds and shifting winds and and and the left in this country, probably as well as anybody.
Can you explain to me why you have Senator Van Holland and then four other Congress people, and now a bunch of Democratic elected officials taking up for this Khalil guy, the the pro Hamas guy of Colombia.
Um why would they why is it their obsession to go to El Salvador and now demand proof that he's alive on a daily basis?
Um, a guy that not one but two judges designated as associated with MS 13, and a guy that frankly had no business being in the country in the first place.
Uh, a guy that, according to his own wife, in her own handwriting is a wife beater.
Can you explain why this is the cause celeb of the left today?
It's another miscalculation.
It's like the trans stuff.
So when you live in a bubble, and thank you for saying I'm a smart guy.
I know you would get a lot of pushback from that some other people.
Um when you live in a bubble and you hear only one point of view your whole existence, which is what many Americans now do.
Because you it's easy to do that on social media and even on linear television if you watch the news, then you really don't know what the other side or people who uh see life differently than you are thinking.
So these Democrats, first of all, I backed the wrong guy because this is a bad guy.
Rich Lowry wrote a very interesting column about why he was in the country in the first place.
Yeah, I read uh in the New York Post today.
Yeah, and it was a very good column by Larry, uh, because it explained the legality of it.
So why he was here and what he did uh or his lawyers did to manipulate his status in America.
Anyway, the left doesn't care about that one bit.
The overarch is they don't want they being the far left, any deportations of anybody.
Uh, They feel that it's uh fascistic, that it's inhumane, whatever it may be.
They don't understand that most Americans disagree with them vehemently, because logical people know.
If you allow fifteen million foreign nationals into this country unsupervised, the negative unintended consequences are going to be staggering.
And in my analysis, but Bill, can I ask you a question?
And I don't want to interrupt your thought, the trend of thought here, but are they not reading the polls?
This is an eighty twenty issue.
You know, if it's a a left-wing outlet poll, it's a 70 30 issue.
I mean, this is this is not a close call here.
It's a good question you're asking me, Hannity.
People believe what they want to believe.
They don't want to.
And so this is their cause celeb.
It's like there's the other story of the day.
It's very similar in nature.
You got this other group of congressional Democrats.
You have the group that traveled to El Salvador to meet this, you know uh Brago Garcia guy.
Then you have this guy, Mahmoud Khalil, uh, and Democratic congressional members visiting Khalil in an ice detention center and and taking up for them and you know, saying that they need to go home.
I'm like, no, they don't.
They need to go home, meaning home where they came from.
Well, I don't know why this guy's still in Louisiana.
I would have booted him out a long time ago.
Because he was here um under the beneficence of the United States government, and if they deem him a public safety threat, which he certainly was in New York City, with his bullhorn uh in pro-Hamas statements, uh, they can boot him immediately.
I don't know why he's still here.
And again, you're just misreading the tempo of the country by getting behind a guy like this.
You know, there are millions and millions of students abroad that would like to study in America because it's very prestigious.
Once you get to do that, you go home, you make a good living.
Well, we're generous and we accept these students here through the State Department's visas, but they don't have a right to be here.
This man doesn't have a right to be in this country.
This is an act of generosity and kindness.
It's a designated terrorist organization that he is openly supporting, Bill.
And if you're openly supporting uh uh a designated terrorist organization and you're from a foreign country, that is sufficient enough reason for us to expel you immediately.
And and I don't even know why that's even a question.
Yeah, I don't know if I'd like to ask uh Holman and and Homeland Security, you know, or m what whoever is uh running the deportation department, I think it's Holman.
Why the guy still had just put him on a plane and send him back?
You know, just like you did with Garcia, but you have a str much stronger case uh with this guy than you have with Garcia because Garcia was in the system, as Lowry pointed out in his column.
He was already in the system.
This guy was not.
So he should have been booted a long time ago.
But again, most Americans would agree with us, Hannity, that these aren't even close calls.
I want to make one more point about the Pope, because obviously um the president and the first lady are going over to the funeral on uh Saturday.
You know, I did an extensive analysis on um Pope Francis after he died, and he was a good man.
I met him eight years ago, um, and I watched him as a reporter, and and he was a good man.
But Pope Francis had no clue.
By the way, we got to be fully transparent.
You were there to get an exorcism, and he did oblige and and give you the exorcism, is that true?
Yeah, it's a rumor.
It's but it's on the internet somewhere, Bill.
Yeah, I stopped speaking Aramaic, and that was really good.
Uh you're claiming now to speak in tongues, Bill.
Okay, keep going.
That's that's one of the signs of that you're possessed by the devil.
Uh, but anyway, the point I made was that even though Francis, I believe, is in heaven, and if he's not having it, you and I have no shot.
Okay, none.
Um, and he was a good Especially you speak for yourself.
I believe in Jesus as my Lord and Savior, and I've accepted him into my heart, and I'm fully confident in the promise of salvation.
But go keep going.
Okay, but that's all good, and I'm glad you have, but I've known you for 30 years, so I know you, but I what our status is.
Anyway.
Man, oh man, you came in with a chip on your shoulder.
Keep going.
That's why you like me.
The Pope did not, for whatever reason, I can't read his mind.
Take in all the suffering, account for all the suffering of the people who get hurt by this massive influx of migrants, not only in the United States, but all around the world.
He never considered that.
And if you weigh it, the downside is to the innocent people who have to endure a president Biden allowing 15 million people in here because the unintended consequences, as you report almost every night, are can lead to murder and horrendous things.
It has led to murder.
It's led to murder, rape, uh, violent crime.
We have known terrorists in the countries, murderers, rapists, cartel members, gang members.
Let me switch gears a little bit.
I think you were featured on 60 Minutes once, weren't you?
Twice.
Twice.
Wow, two big times.
So when Donald Trump was president the first time, um, Leslie Stahl not only asked the president to intervene to convince me to do the show, but also our our friend and former colleague, Bill Schein to get me in to persuade me to do the show.
And I offered to do it live to tape, because I don't like how 60 minutes does I I think they have an agenda, and I think is this I can give example after example, it won't bore this audience.
They know that CBS News has a liberal bias, and what they'll do is they'll tape you for X amount of time, they'll build a narrative around the story that they want to present to their audience, and I don't often believe it's an honest, an honest way to portray people, and I think it's unfair.
Now, listen, everybody will might edit for time or for other reasons, etc.
That's not what we're talking about.
They have a narrative going in.
It was a it was a non-starter, live to tape.
And I'm like, well, fine, then we're not doing it.
Um you did it.
If I recall, it wasn't that bad.
Um they knew that your audience would rebel if it was that abusively biased.
But the fact that the 60 Minutes Chief quits, now remember, they just sold 60 minutes and CBS.
Uh Paramount now owns it, and they decided, and this guy, there's only been it's interesting.
There's only been three producers of in their 57-year history.
And he said it's become clear that I will not be allowed to run the show as I've always run it and make independent decisions based on what's right for 60 minutes.
I could care less about 60 minutes.
I don't feel that I'm getting the truth when I watch an edited 60 minutes.
What say you?
You've had personal experience.
Right.
So Don Hewitt uh was the guy who founded it, and he and Mike Wallace were big Fox News fans.
I don't know whether you knew that or not.
Mike Wallace was a rock star.
He was a great interviewer.
He's the best ever.
I don't know.
Tim Russell's right up there too, and I knew Tim Russert well.
When we started in 1996, they understood what we were doing, which was giving voice to traditional conservative Americans who never had it on television, national television news.
Even though both men were liberals, Hewitt and Wallace, they weren't loons, and they were journalists first, and they understood what Fox News was.
And I would talk to them all the time.
And so Wallace uh put me on 60 minutes, and uh it was hysterical.
Uh it was a great piece.
They got very high ratings with it.
Um but they treated me very fairly.
Isn't it in part though, because you did have a personal relationship with with Mike Wallace.
Yes.
And he did respect your work in many ways, and he also knew you were tough.
I mean, he would roll over people sometimes and just eviscerate them.
And look, and Rallace loved that because that's what he did.
And I gave him full credit for it.
The opening um remark on McWallace interview, and people could see that on Google if you Google it was hey, you're responsible for Bill O'Reilly.
And that took Wallace back in the shit, because I used to watch you, and I imitated some of what you did.
Anyway, six years later, Nora O'Donnell interviewed me for killing Jesus and for uh just how I got where I got.
And I'm gonna use some of that tonight on the No Spin News, my television broadcast.
That's an interesting interview, too.
It was a new producer, Jeff Fager.
He took over when uh Hewitt retired.
Fager was a fair man.
But then when Shaeger got booted out of there, then things changed in 2019.
The big change, Hannity, and you remember this, I know you do, was when Leslie Stahl was uh was interviewing uh Donald Trump, and Leslie Saul would not acknowledge, despite all of the evidence, that the Clinton campaign ginned up the phony Russia story.
Do you remember that?
I do remember that, of course.
That on the air to uh Trump, she kept saying there's no evidence, there's no evidence.
And I was sitting in my living room watching that, my jaw hit the ground.
I said, Are you kidding me, lady?
That was the turning point of 60 minutes.
Now, I used to work for CBS as a correspondent, covered wars for them.
I don't know why that happened.
I don't know why they changed from Jeff Fager, essentially a fair man, into Bill Owens, who allowed the broadcast to be anti-Trump.
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All right, can I take this out of your realm for a second here?
Would you agree with me generally speaking?
And this can go back to Reagan and their coverage of the the Contra Rebels and Iran Contra and so on and so forth.
Do you generally agree with me that the practice of getting hours of interviews and building a narrative around that and and extrapolating out only that which fits your narrative as been part of their MO, and it's gotten worse and worse over the years.
Is that a fair premise?
Yes, I would agree with that, but not just 60 minutes.
That's what's prevalent in all of television news now.
Here's an interesting point that you may not have thought of.
Um the culture at CBS has always been liberal.
Walter Cronkite was liberal, but they didn't promote liberalism until Rather got in the anchor chair.
And rather did 60 minutes too.
That's where he got booted when he tried to nail Bush the Younger on the National Guard story.
You remember that?
That ruined Rather's career.
Okay.
So when Obama we got about 10 seconds, Mr. O'Reilly, you gotta wrap this up.
All right, next week.
I can't wrap it up that fast, but uh they took a turn, 60 minutes did with Barack Obama.
And if you want to go on next week on it, we can do that.
But thanks for having me.
It's a fun conversation as always.
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Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
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It didn't work that well during the election season.
Nazi, fascist, racist, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini.
That didn't work too well.
Well, that's not gonna stop Democrats from doing it.
I mean, I don't know where they they found this relic of a former politician, Al Gore, but you know, I know it's wrong to make Hitler comparisons, but let me go on to make one.
Listen.
I understand very well why it is wrong to compare Adolf Hitler's Third Reich to any other movement.
It was uniquely evil, full stop.
I get it.
But there are important lessons from the history of that emergent evil.
But it was Habermas's mentor, Theodore Adorno, who wrote that the first step in that nation's descent into hell was, and I quote, the conversion of all questions of truth into questions of power.
He described how the Nazis, and I quote, again, attacked the very heart of the distinction between true and false.
End quote.
The Trump administration is insisting on trying to create their own preferred version of reality.
Oh boy.
James Carville, do we do we wait until Trump is Hitler to compare him to Hitler?
And this is how sick these people have gotten.
Crazy Carvel.
Listen.
Michael McConish, who's a guy go to his show.
He's very personal guy.
He's a Philadelphia guy.
He said, Well, he's not.
This is you may not like Trump, but he's not Hitler and shouldn't be treated that way.
Okay.
Well, this is a question to Michael Scottish.
Do we wait until he's Hitler?
At what point do you say this guy is a threat to whatever?
What did Trump's first wife say the reading material on his night table was?
I can tell you, mind Kampf.
It's German for my struggle, which is you couldn't read it if you'd actually tried to read it.
And it it you just can't.
I mean, it's just pathetic.
By the way, it is now time for a Hannity trip down memory lane, considering Al Gore has been pretty much out of the public eye forever.
Uh this is Al Gore running for president.
And like so many Democrats, I don't feel no ways tired.
Remember, Hillary, and and for whatever reason, Democrats get uh before particular constituencies, and then their their tone, their pitch, their cadence, everything changes.
Here's preacher Al Gore, a Hannity Oldy.
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Stand with me for the economic empowerment that is the next great civil rights frontier.
And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed.
Don't tell me we live in a colorbland society.
The Republicans know that theirs is the wrong agenda for African Americans.
That's why they don't even want to count you in the census.
Oh, you're not there!
And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed.
And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed.
And then glory of the Lord shall be revealed.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Professor Katz, California.
What's up, Professor Katz?
It's been a while.
How are you?
It's so good to talk to you, Sean.
So I am the daughter of a 97-year-old Holocaust survivor, Peary Katz, and my mom is recuperating from a stroke.
She had a full and complete recovery in large part to watching you every night in the hospital.
They had CNN on, and my mom would cry and she would just say she doesn't want to watch it.
And I just had to like, you know, go through every single channel on the television to find you on Fox, and mom would watch you every day, and it just gave her strength, and she's just doing fantastically.
What what great news?
I mean, so often, if you don't get uh uh if you are having a stroke and you don't get to the hospital, you have a very tiny window to get to a hospital, or the damage is usually irreparable.
That is so true.
Thank God she's okay.
Please tell mom I said hi, and I'm so happy she's doing better.
I will.
And I just want to say uh, you know, about what you were just playing all those clips that you know the 20th was would have been Hitler's birthday, and may he burn wherever he is, but um my mom's here, and there's a lot of people that are alive and well,
and you know, President Trump has been not just according to like our wonderful Mark Levin, but according to all of us who love and are so grateful to him, and the prime minister of Israel, Netanyahu said that we've never had such a best friend to Israel and the Jewish people and to really all people of faith as President Trump in the White House.
And, you know, Larry David has been from HBO, Al Gore, you know, who couldn't like sell his climate, you know, change thing to come, you know, and and Carville, another has been.
They do not speak for us, and neither do, you know, the the three areas of the the Jewish, you know, uh denominations, the the the left who they've all become leftists, uh the reform movement, the conservative movement, sadly.
Um, you know, they were just condemned by 2500 orthodox rabbis for saying um that what President Trump is trying to accomplish in all of the universities, and so many people are so idiotic they don't see it either.
Universities are supposed to be places of learning, they're supposed to prepare you to become effective and constructive citizens and to go out and create and be um wonderful people in the world, not to go out and spread pro-Hamas propaganda on campus,
not to spread anti-Semitism, and that's what's going on day in and day out today at Yale with the encampments at Columbia, at Harvard, and basically President Trump is doing what the administration should be doing and standing up and saying you have codes of conduct.
If you're not going to enforce them and expel these students or suspend them or have consequences for them, we're gonna have consequences for you.
We're gonna withhold your funding.
These are wealthy universities, they should know better.
And they shouldn't get a dime.
Look at what the Democratic Party's descended into, though.
I mean, it's not just the party championing men and women's sports and the rights of illegals over the safety of Americans and claiming a constitutional crisis when they get exposed, you know, uh spending hundreds of billions of dollars and wasting it abroad on DEI, wokeism, transgenderism, LGBTQ, new green dealism.
You know, but now they're also the party that is, you know, going to El Salvador to champion uh for a guy that that not one but two judges declared to be associated and connected with MS 13.
And now they're also this this pro-Hamas protester that's not a citizen of our country on Columbia's university.
Now they're going, they're taking up his cause.
You know, what what has happened to this party?
The party has been radicalized, and they're embracing radical pro Hamas protesters.
And meanwhile, Donald Trump moved the Capitol to its rightful home in Jerusalem.
Donald Trump has been the most supportive president of Israel.
Uh, recognize the West Bank and other areas as as rightful Israeli territory.
And and meanwhile, what did we get from Biden and Harris?
Frankly, nothing but hostility towards Israel.
Uh I don't know what part of murder, rape, torture, beheading, and kidnapping these people don't understand on the left, but you know, that this is their party.
You know, they stay remain silent when assassination threats are made against Elon Musk and Donald Trump and bullets are fired into Tesla dealerships and Teslas are being, you know, torched and and and hit with Molotov cocktails, and same with charging stations.
Uh, you know, some on the left worshiping the ground that Luigi Mangioni walks on.
I don't know what's happened to them.
But it, you know, that party, forget about Hillary Clinton and now Gore and James Crazy Carvel.
Uh now they've got Jasmine Crockett and AOC and Bernie Sanders in the squad.
And that is the heart and soul of that party.
Absolutely.
And what people don't realize is this is Holocaust reversionism.
When you use the Holocaust like you were use the word hello and compare everything and everybody to Hitler, then you know, you demean not only people like mom who survived the Holocaust, you denigrate the memories also of all of the millions of people who were mass murdered in gas chambers and concentration camps,
as well as where are the people out there in the Democrat Party who had fathers and grandfathers like my dad, who was in the Third Army in the Battle of the Bulge, who forgot that we were the people,
our U.S. military, who they also demean and denigrate and tried to either force them to take COVID shots or kick them out if you know they didn't go along with their woke ideology, which President Trump reinstated and Pete Heggs, you know, another like person that they also go after.
These people were the greatest generation, and they fought against this evil ideology.
They fought against Hitler, and they liberated the camps, and they liberated Europe twice.
This is not these ideals and ideologies that they are pushing, these are Marxist leftist garbage that they are pushing in our K-312 schools in every single subject.
They find a way to like integrate it in a lecture.
They're pushing it on our college campuses, and they're pushing it by running these people as you know, elected officials to speak like you said, like in the squad and other places in Congress.
They do not represent the mainstream American and our ideals and what this country was built upon.
They have, if I may, Professor, they have an agenda, and it is a radical agenda.
And that's why Havid, Columbia, Cornell, all these Ivy League institutions don't deserve one red cent of American tax dollars, not a penny.
And frankly, I I think they have lost track of their mission, which is education and it's now become indoctrination.
Uh look, I could talk to you all day, but I do have other calls to get to.
We do love when you call, Professor Katz.
Always good to hear from you.
Quick break, right back.
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Jeff in Illinois.
Jeff, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Brother Sean, good.
Um thank you for what you do.
I listened to Bill O'Reilly.
I talked to him about 10 years ago with the Rod Lugoevich situation, but that's not why I called.
I called about the Harvard, and then any time institutions such as PBS do receive federal funds.
I'm sure in the terms and conditions, it states you're not allowed to use those funds against the hand that feeds you.
So with that being said, you know, Harvard, I hope you're listening.
Elon is on the way.
Pam Bondi should be writing up the orders that we're gonna look through the books 150% one way through and then coming back out 50%.
And we might even go after their endowments if they've broken the terms and conditions for federal tax dollars in which they're utilizing against us.
We all know that.
You know what?
Anything now, government needs to be looked through like the PBS, like even Planned Parenthood, uh, with a you know fine-tooth comb.
Elon's on the way, just tell them that.
And then the lawsuit should be immediately stopped by another judge, or if that is Pam Bondi, and I could go on and on.
But if you have Bill on next week, yes, you do.
He, in my opinion, is the ultimate image journalist.
He works.
That man is passionate like you.
Katie is so sweet.
And I'm saying this, she needs a raise.
Linda, we love her, and I'm done.
Will you stop sucking up to the people that work on the show?
You gotta stop.
But I do agree with you on a lot of what you're saying here, and I I will tell you, we can't afford it anymore.
We cannot afford to give uh uh a college like an elite institution that is so woke, like havid, you know, 680 some odd million dollars a year uh when they have a 53 billion dollar endowment.
They don't need our money.
And hardworking Americans need it.
We need to pay down our debt, we need to save Social Security and Medicaid from bankruptcy.
We need to deport illegal immigrants, we need to get all this energy out of the ground so we can make more money, and we need investment in infrastructure, uh, and we need law and order.
We have too many other priorities.
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Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
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