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Senate Fighting the Fight - April 9th, Hour 3
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Now, I went to D.C. yesterday, and this is very rare.
This is an opportunity that does not come along very often, but we had the majority leader, John Thune, and we had Senator Ted Cruz and Senator John Kennedy and Senator Tom Cotton and Senator Tim Scott and Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Katie Britt and Mark Wayne Mullins was there, and we had a Senate Town Hall.
I don't know if there's ever been one before.
Linda, can you think of one?
I can't.
And anyway, it's such an important time with the issue of reconciliation and making sure that the Trump tax cuts don't expire.
That would be a four trillion dollar tax increase on the American people.
And to make sure that reconciliation gets passed, this is a very, very critical time.
I urge everybody to get in touch with their senators, their their congressmen as well.
There are some members in the House that seem reluctant and resistant.
They need to they need to change because all this would do if they pass this in the Senate is open up the door to negotiation, and then they can get final passage, hopefully down the road.
So we got to get the ball rolling because we're living under the Biden Harris economy.
We talked about that.
Um interestingly, even though there was some critics of the president's strategy on tariffs, none of them were panicked.
None of them.
And we talked all about that too.
Anyway, here's uh part of that discussion from last night.
We'll start tonight with Senate Majority Leader John Thune.
Senator, good to see you.
Um, you were able to get everyone united to get the president's cabinet through.
Not a small task.
You didn't shut the Senate down.
You kept it open for hour after hour after hour.
Senator Kennedy wanted to go home and have a beer.
Um what's that?
Ark 2.
Or two or three.
Um so kudos to you for that.
Uh Senator Lindsey Graham was on my show the other night, said something that's really profound in my view.
In the last hundred years, there's only been four times that Republicans have had control of the White House, the House, and the Senate.
This is such a historic opportunity.
And maybe it only lasts two years.
Right.
Tell us what the next steps are.
Okay.
Well, first off, um, thanks, Sean, and and thanks to this team and our fellow Senate Republicans.
Uh, we did get the President's cabinet in place the fastest rate in 20 years.
Uh, we were in session for 10 consecutive weeks for the first time in 15 years.
And today we have cast more votes than any Senate going back to the Reagan administration.
So uh people are showing up, they're doing the work, and uh we have a lot more work ahead of us.
But if you look at what's at stake, the stakes are high, as you pointed out.
We don't get this opportunity very often, and when it comes along, sometimes it doesn't last very long.
So we've got to make the most of these two years where we've got President Trump's leadership in the White House, and boy, isn't that a welcome relay from the the past four years, working with Republican Senate and Republican House to do the things the president campaigned on and asked to secure the border,
make a generational investment in doing that, uh, make sure that we're investing in our national security so our we're prepared for whatever threats exist around the world, uh avoiding a four trillion dollar tax increase at the end of this year, preventing that from happening, and then restoring American energy dominance.
Those are all priorities the President campaigned on.
And I would add, deficit reduction.
We have got to cut spending, and that is a priority for this Senate.
I'd add to the next generation in weaponry.
We live in a dangerous world.
We do indeed.
All right.
So Senator Graham is the head of the Budget Committee.
And Senator Graham also said on that show that he was on that as the head of the budget committee, he can bypass the Senate parliamentarian.
Look, to explain reconciliation to hardworking Americans that get up every day, work hard, play by the rules gets a little bit complicated.
But the reality is in your body in the Senate, where you're the majority leader, it gets complicated.
And it's not as complicated in the House.
It's a procedure by which you have very strict rules and regulations.
Then you've got to come together with the House, you guys got to strike a deal.
Explain it in maybe layman's terms so people that you know are busy providing for their families every day can really understand why this is important.
Well and you are right it is the quintessential if you will Washington inside baseball game.
And even the language around it is complicated.
But the short of it is we believe and and in the Senate at least when you have unified control of the government, House, Senate, and White House, which as you pointed out we have had a half a dozen less than that times in the last century, you can do things at 51 votes in the Senate that would otherwise require 60.
But you got to have maximum cooperation.
You got to have 51 Senate Republicans to hang together.
You've got to have 218 members of the House and you got to have a President who is willing to sign a bill into law.
We have all those things in place.
And Lindsay has done a great job as the chairman of the budget committee and we believe the law is very clear that he has the authority to set what that baseline is.
And there is a lot of conversation around which baseline you use but the simple fact of the matter is we believe that extending the tax relief that was passed in 2017 under President Trump ought to be able to be continued.
And that isn't something we ought to have to offset or pay for it.
This is these are policies that are in place.
Tax rates should stay the same on January 1st of next year as they are on December 31st and as you pointed out in in your in your leadoff to this some of the other things that the President's trying to achieve to provide the American people with tax relief so they can keep more of their hard earned dollars and spend them the way they want to spend them and send us instead of sending them to Washington D.C. So if we if you're not able and you have a three vote majority in the Senate and I think we're up to seven now in the House and so you have this arcane maneuver which for
example was used to pass Obamacare.
I believe it was used to pass the inflation reduction act right now and the Budget Committee chair pulls that off but you have a very small majority.
So you got to get you got to work within the rules you got to get it passed in the Senate and you've got to get the House to go along with it.
They've got a small majority I know everybody has whatever their priorities are is everybody fully on board do you have a good feeling that you're going to get the 50 votes hopefully 51 or two or all 53 do you believe that the House having you know had the conversations with Speaker Johnson you'll get it done there too?
Yeah well shame on us if we don't this is historic in terms of the opportunity and I think what's going to motivate all those people both in the House and the Senate Republicans.
I can't think of a Republican that would abide a $4 trillion dollar tax increase on the American people.
Let's talk a little bit I'll ask you and then I'll ask the rest of the group I just want to know where do you stand on the issue and do you think that the President's obviously $7 trillion dollars in committed investment is a lot.
Obviously 70 plus countries want to negotiate got the world's attention how do you think this plays out look I think the President there's the everybody we all heard it he won 77 million votes and there wasn't a day on the campaign trail where he didn't talk about tariffs.
It's something he believes in he deserves the opportunity to go get the deals he can get and and to to get the reciprocity that we need with some of these countries that have been taking advantage of us.
And so this is the, you know I think most of most of us up here believe that he deserves that opportunity and he is administer he and his administration are working very aggressively as you know and have already announced so many countries have come to the table are looking for for deals.
So let's give this President some space to see what he can get done and obviously we're all paying close attention to it but we think that he campaigned on it.
He made it very clear to the American people what he wanted to achieve in doing it.
And I think when it comes to creating better paying jobs in this country and growing our economy making America stronger and getting investment in this country you are already seeing some of that.
Some of these supply chains are coming back home.
let's give this president an opportunity to see what he can get done.
All right, joining us now, Senators Mark Wayne Mullen, Katie Britt, John Kennedy, Lindsey Graham, Tom Cotton, Tim Scott, and Senator Ted Cruz.
Again, thank you all for being here.
But all of you are friends of the show, and I thank you for that.
There are some people in your group in the Senate, they're not so TV friendly.
Uh not available ever.
Never.
Lindsay, let me go to you because the budget committee as chair, this reconciliation process really you're the one that triggered this, which I think is very important.
Otherwise, you'd have to get the approval of the Senate parliamentarian.
Well, so uh it's our belief that elected officials should make big decisions, not unelected bureaucrats.
I like the parliamentarian, but it's not her decision to set the baseline, it's mine.
When Democrats were in charge, they set the baseline.
Under the Budget Control Act of 1974, you can spend all the money you want, you don't have to pay for it.
But when you cut taxes after a period of time, that consider that considers to be raising the deficit.
We all know if you cut taxes, you get more money into the government.
We all believe that.
So by fifty-three of us got together and we changed the way the Washington works.
From here on out, taxes will be treated as spending.
They will be considered not to expire.
They don't add to the debt, they add revenue to the government.
I made that decision and all these guys back.
The Trump tax cuts are scheduled to expire.
In December, what does it mean?
$1,900 per family.
If you're in business, you're going to lose your deductions, uh, expensing.
Uh child tax credit goes down by nine.
We're playing with real bullets here.
I just say this.
The debt ceiling, the debt extension, as President Trump called it, we got to pay the credit card bill it comes due.
If we don't put it in this bill, and we have to get 10 Democrats in the Senate to extend the debt ceiling, the price they will want will be unbelievable.
They will extort everybody here.
They will extort President Trump to the people watching tonight.
We got a chance to make the tax cuts permanent, fully fund the border, help the military get the debt ceiling extended without one Democratic vote, only if reconciliation works.
Four times in a hundred years.
If we screw this up, you should be really pissed.
We can't afford to screw this up.
Senator Cotton, what your take, and where do you think we are in the process?
Well, I think we've taken an important first step last week in the Senate by passing that budget and sending it to the House.
You heard the President just a few moments ago talking about the need for unity.
Uh we obviously have some differences of opinion here on this or that issue, along with 50 or uh two other of my colleagues as well.
But on this, we're all unified around the need to not just extend the 2017 tax cuts, but to improve them with some of the ideas that the President campaigned on that we all campaigned on.
No tax tips.
Overtime Social Security.
It's secure our border.
It's not just a security issue, it's also a quality of life issue in your communities, because illegal migrants put strain on schools and hospitals and other public services, making sure that we're safe abroad as well by funding our military and getting the price of energy down, whether it's what you pay for gas at the pump or your electricity.
That's the goals that unite all of us.
That's what we came together around last week with Lindsay and John Thune's leadership, and I think that's what Mike Johnson is going to have in the House later this week.
Senator Scott.
To me, this is the beginning of the blue-collar comeback.
Imagine seven trillion dollars.
That's a great line.
I wish I thought of that.
We can share it.
We can share it.
Think about it, though.
So many Americans feel invisible in the Biden economy.
This is the Trump economy.
Think about seven trillion dollars descending upon the greatest nation on God's green earth, creating high-paying, high manufacturing jobs.
That means a hundred plus thousand dollars a year coming into communities across this country.
The first time we did it in the TCJA, we saw more revenue to the Treasury, and was a $4,000 per family in their pockets.
It's the American people's dollars.
Let them keep it.
This blue collar come back.
It's real because President Trump is a man we need with a steel spine to get the job done.
70 countries.
It's a good day in America.
Senator Cruz.
Look, failure's not an option.
You look at the election in November, it is as clear a mandate as we've ever seen from the American people.
And I'll tell you one of the things that I am impressed with in both the Senate and House is I think Republicans understand we have a job to do.
We can't screw this up.
Now what is that job?
Number one, the mandate secure the border.
That is the single clearest mandate out of this election.
Twelve million people invaded this country, and the American people said enough is enough.
And I gotta say, by the way, my favorite line from the President's State of the Union address is when he pointed out, he said, you know, Joe Joe Biden stood up here a year ago and said he couldn't secure the border without new legislation.
Well, it turns out we didn't need new legislation.
We just needed a new president.
We've seen illegal border crossings drop 98%.
That's delivering on results, but now it's our job to come and provide the funding to build the wall, to put in technology, to put in border patrol, to put in ice, to make sure that we keep our families safe and secure.
When it comes to energy, the American people are fed up with high energy costs.
We want America to lead the world in energy.
When it comes to rebuilding the military, you're right, it is a dangerous, dangerous world.
And when it comes to the tax cuts, we're going to extend the tax cuts.
It's going to be bumpy.
It's always bumpy, and it's particularly with the House, which has an excruciatingly small majority.
But we will get the job done because the alternative, if we do nothing, is an automatic four trillion dollar tax increase.
We're not going to let that happen.
Because if we do, we'll be failing in our jobs.
That is not acceptable.
We'll get the job done.
And the president won't let that happen.
If the House doesn't get it done, they're gonna want they're gonna be hurting themselves again.
Because the sooner we get away from the Biden Harris economy, the odds go up exponentially that they have a better chance to get a re-elected.
They're up in two years.
Well, and there are lots of trade-offs in it.
Look, most of us have been part of the process of taxes.
All right, we'll more with our panel.
Uh, we'll get to Senator Kennedy, Mark Wayne Mullin.
Uh, we're just getting started as Hannity continues, we're live from our nation's capital.
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All right, so that was uh part of the town hall with some senators.
We'll have a little bit more on the other side.
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All right, so we're in the swamp yesterday.
We had a great group of senators.
Uh we continue our discussion talking about reconciliation.
This is a critical, critical time.
For the Senate and the House, it's only the fourth time in a hundred years that Republicans have had control of the White House, the House, and the Senate.
They've got to get this reconciliation bill done.
I'm playing it because it's complicated.
John Thune, uh Kate Senator Katie Britt, Mark Wade Mullen, Lindsey Graham, Senator Cotton, Senator Tim Scott, Senator Ted Cruz.
They did something that Senators really do.
They sat down together with me for the hour last night.
Let's go back to part of that interview.
All right, welcome back to Hannity.
We're live from Capitol Hill, where we continue our town hall with Senate Republicans.
By the way, a rare event.
I want to thank all of you for doing this.
A lot of senators won't.
I appreciate your time.
Uh a lot of issues facing the country.
And I really do believe that Americans are putting a lot of faith, hope, and trust in all of you that you can get President Trump's agenda that they voted for in the mandate that that Senator Cruz was talking about across the finish line across on the plane.
Senator Kennedy, you make my audience laugh more than anybody.
Um, as you examine this issue of reconciliation and the economy and 37 trillion in debt, and then Doge finding what nearly 150 trillion, I think at this point, dollars and waste fraud and abuse.
How will all of you with the majority get this under control?
Well, look, reconciliation is not quantum physics.
Uh, it's about lower prices.
To lower prices, John, you've got to do three things.
You've got to reduce government spending so you have less stimulus.
You've got to deregulate the economy so the price of goods and services go down, and you have to design your tax code that looks like somebody designed it on purpose to stimulate growth.
Now, reconciliation allows us in the Senate to do all three of those things with 51 votes.
And that's really all it is.
Um I want to say a word, though, about tariffs, because that's sort of the fourth leg of this tool.
Uh I I think most fair-minded people would agree with this.
Other countries have used trade barriers to take advantage of the American people and American businesses.
Uh, number two, President Trump has said enough.
We would not be in this situation today had he not been a pit bull.
By that I mean there are 195 countries in the world.
70 are begging him to make a deal to more cares.
Um, he's like the pit bull, though, who caught the car.
Here's what I I don't know what the president's gonna do next.
Here's what I hope he does next.
I hope he takes a deal.
I hope he I hope he goes he and Scott Bessett go to every one of those countries and reduce those tariffs and trade barriers down to zero and let American businesses compete with those foreign businesses.
Competition makes us better.
Does everyone agree with that?
Yes, yes, absolutely.
Now, 70 countries include in the U the EU is now seemingly moving in his direction.
I can just tell you, talking to, you know, 25 million people on 750 radio stations every day.
When Americans hear that our friends and allies in Europe, I'll give a quick example, and I'll stay with you on this.
Okay, Germany.
They have a 10% tariff, we have a 2.5% tariff, but they also have a VAT tax with a value-added tax.
That's a national sales tax.
So that raises the sticker price of an American car to be sold in Germany by 30 percent.
They sell eight to ten cars, uh German cars in America to our one car sold in Germany.
Why are they hurting us?
They look to us for defense.
They they want us, they'll they'll be they'll be screaming U.S. come to the rescue at a moment's notice.
We pay a bulk of the freight when it comes to NATO.
Why would they treat a friendly nation like that?
Why would other European nations be doing that to us?
Well, I think that's what the President has talked about.
But you agree we're being ripped off.
Yes.
Yes.
Look, uh China is probably the worst example, but not the only one.
Uh God created the world, but everything else is made in China.
I mean, we know that.
That's just reflects reality today.
Uh but they're not having a lot of people.
That's not jumbo, John, is it gumbo made in China?
But they're not they're not the only one.
But but because President Trump has done what he's done, and I'm not saying it hasn't been tough with the market, it has been.
But we would not be in this situation able to negotiate lower tariffs and trade barriers if President Trump hadn't done what he has done.
I just want him to see him turn Scott Besson loose, he and Scott take them one at a time, and let's lower these tariffs and let American businesses compete with the world and may the best product and the best price win, and we'll all be better off.
I would like to keep it less complicated, because sometimes there's a few other issues that have been conflated with it.
But if it really comes down by my uh Senator Mark Wayne Molly, good to see you.
Yes.
If it comes down to a simple choice, most Americans agree that we're being ripped off.
Most Americans don't like being ripped off, especially ripped off by our friends.
But the President has said that if you want free and fair trade, we'll go along with that.
If you want tariffs, okay, you tariff us, we'll put reciprocal tariffs on you.
If we keep it and reduce it to that simple formula, I believe that's a winning issue.
Am I wrong?
It is, but we also have access to the economy.
You use Japan or Japan Germany as an example, right?
They can lower it to zero tariffs, but they still charge 20 percent tax.
Well, that's got a percent tax.
That's a tax.
It is a tax, but you have to you have to take that in consideration.
Japan does the same thing, right?
Japan charges zero tariffs on a U.S. manufactured vehicle to go in, but you can't sell a vehicle in Japan.
But Japan s puts 200 percent on rice imported from our country into their country.
Absolutely.
No one's selling any American rice there, and 94 percent of their cars are made in their country.
Right, which goes to the fact that President Trump has the backbone at this point to say, hey, it's time to write to ship.
No, there has been no president that's been willing to address this.
And we've known this has been an issue, Sean, for decades, and it's only got worse.
What President Trump did is he's finally stepped up and said something that he started talking about back in 1988 on Oprah show, saying that they are taking advantage of us, we have to stop the bleeding.
If we didn't do it, then at what generation was going to happen?
Because this isn't about just today.
What President Trump is doing is he's looking at the economy 10, 15, 20 years down the road because that's what a business guy, not a politician, that's what a business guy does.
A politician looks at what happens in the next election.
President Trump is looking generational down the road, which is what we should be doing.
But at the same time, let's talk about some of the lies that the Democrats are showing, right?
The Democrats are saying that we're going to cut Social Security benefits.
Do you know we can't do that through reconciliation?
But they don't say that.
They also say we're going to raise taxes on billionaires.
Or not raise taxes, but billions alert.
You mean Democrats lie?
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
When they call all of you Nazis and fascists and Hitler and Mussolini and the American people starting to believe it because they say it so much.
When we can't we you cannot cut Social Security in reconciliation.
At the same time, they're saying we're going to cut taxes for billionaires and millionaires and President Trump's friends, when all we're doing is is extending the current tax code.
The current tax policy that we have right now, we're simply extending it.
And so the Democrats, They can't run on any of their policies, but they run they're running on lies.
Actually, you can add to that.
No tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime.
Guess what?
I used to work in the service industry.
I would have liked all that.
Yes, it absolutely.
And it cuts taxes on the ones that need it the absolute most.
But you know, as I said before, Sean, the Democrats have nothing to run on policy-wise, so they're just running on fear and lies.
So I saw you shaking your head, Senator Scott, and I'm getting I think I'm reading the room and I'm getting consensus that now that we know these countries have taken note of what the President has laid out, you want these deals to be done expeditiously.
100%.
Sooner than later.
Like I said, the $7 trillion that it's on the table, that would be a fantastic blue-collar coming back.
But more importantly, it resets America as the economically dominant nation on the planet for a generation.
I think we need more than two years in the majority, however.
We need four years in the majority to make sure we seem in a generation of change.
You don't do that in two years.
You do that over four years.
I think President Trump has a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reset, recalibrate the entire global economy by bringing it all home to America.
Put America first by putting our paychecks first by securing this nation first, and the rest of the world, including our allies, will take advantage of us if we let them.
We let them do what 50 or 60 years said.
Since World War II.
To you, the it seems that the magic sauce here would be speed.
Now that they're willing to deal, get the deal done.
Well, and take the deal.
We're at a fork in the road.
Take what deal.
Take the deal, make deals, and actually work to lower tariffs.
Look, we're at a fork in the road, and it's a real lower or reciprocal.
Lower tariffs on both sides.
Reciprocal.
I'm saying reciprocal, but here's the fork in the road.
What do you do once you announce these tariffs last week?
One option, and the option that I hope and pray the president takes is you've got countries beating a path to the White House saying, Uncle, let us up, we'll slash our tariffs, we'll slash our barriers to trade in exchange for you doing it.
If the outcome of these tariffs announced last week is in 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, we see tariffs slashed worldwide.
We see the barriers to U.S. farmers and ranchers and manufacturers dropping enormously, and suddenly we're able to access other markets, and these tariffs drop here, that's a great outcome.
President Trump has the opportunity for the most extraordinary economic win for the American people right now by making a deal, by saying, let's cut a deal.
But on the other hand, and I do want to give a word of warning, there are voices in the administration that rather than take a deal are saying we want to have tariffs as a long-term permanent feature of the economy.
I think that'd be a mistake.
If a year from now our trading partners have all jacked up tariffs on America and we have high tariffs on everyone, I think that'll hurt this country.
And so what I'm urging the president is this opportunity to take the deal, lower tariffs all around.
It's actually what President Trump proposed in Europe in his first term.
You guys slashed your tariffs, we'll slash ours, and we'll have free and fair trade for everyone.
That would be historic.
If we got them to the point where it was free and fair or reciprocal, at that point, wouldn't America be taken in billions?
And one other thing that nobody seems to talk about, I like the idea uh that our semiconductors will now be made in this country for national security reasons.
I like the idea that more auto manufacturing centers will be built in this country.
I like that our pharmaceuticals, too many of our pharmaceuticals are made abroad.
God forbid COVID 2.0 comes along.
I got 30 seconds.
I gotta give it to Senator Kennedy.
What do you think of the new leadership?
Jasmine AOC and Bernie.
I consider Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez to be the leader of the Democratic Party.
She's entitled to her opinion.
I'm entitled to mine.
As I've said about her before, I think she's the reason.
There are directions on a shampoo box.
And uh our plan for dealing with turning that out.
We got to hurry.
Our plan for dealing with her is oper called operation let her speak.
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Thank you, Senator Kennedy.
All right.
Senator Kennedy, last word.
Quick.
If Vietnam, Mr. President offers you zero tariff barriers, pounce on it like a ninja.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
Uh, we have a huge handity tonight.
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I think one of the biggest days in the Trump presidency.
Now up nearly 3,000, NASDAQ up 12.
Uh, the SP up 10%.
I mean, amazing day.
And this is quintessential Trump, and the media's too stupid to know it.
Anyway, Dave Asman, Steve Moore, Senator John Kennedy is back with us tonight.
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