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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, as we've been discussing all day, the stock market volatility, skittishness on Wall Street is really nothing new.
What's fascinating about this, and Treasury Secretary Scott Bassent pointed out, well, 88% of the stock market is owned by the wealthiest 10% of Americans.
The bottom 50% have debt.
They have credit card bills.
They rent their homes.
They have auto loans.
And we've got to give them some relief.
The distribution of equities across households, the top 10% of Americans own 88% of equities, 88% of the stock market.
The next 40% owns 12% of the stock market.
The bottom 50 has debt.
They have credit card bills.
They rent their homes.
They have auto loans.
And we've got to give them some relief.
Summer of 2024, Americans took more European vacations than they had in history.
Summer of 2024, more Americans were using food banks than they ever have in history.
I went into two food banks near my hometown to ask, what's the story?
And they said, you know, it really takes, for a lot of people, it's a loss of dignity to walk in a food bank.
Of course.
But they were seeing something, a new phenomenon that it wasn't their traditional clientele.
It wasn't people who'd lost their homes.
It wasn't people out on the street.
These were working families who could no longer $100 at the grocery store, that basket of groceries every week.
They were missing five, six, seven things, and they were coming to the food bank to top up.
There's been very little coverage in terms of how the economy has shown significant signs of improvement.
Number one, the price of energy has gone down dramatically.
It's now about $64, $65 a barrel.
All the egg complaining that we had at the beginning of Trump's term, yeah, egg prices are down dramatically.
I know because I bought some yesterday.
The jobs numbers for March were unbelievably incredible.
And with all of this said, it really comes down to a very simple and fundamental ideology and belief system.
Now, remember, Joe Biden liked Donald Trump's 2018 tariffs so much that he not only kept them in place, he increased some of them.
Except nobody in the state-run legacy media mob really seemed to care at the time.
And it comes down to a simple choice.
What has evolved over the last 50 years is the entire world is ripping us off.
They have abused American taxpayers for decades, and especially considering we provide for the national defense of the free world, it's pretty insulting that they do that.
This is not a difficult concept to understand, and that is Donald Trump is saying we're open.
If you want free and fair trade, you can have it.
And countries have the choice that they can have free and fair trade and access to our markets if they want it.
Now, if they choose to make a decision and put tariffs that hurt our farmers, our ranchers, our manufacturers, our automakers with high tariffs, then they will be getting in return reciprocal tariffs, demanding fundamental fairness for our country and allowing our people, you know, whatever temporary shock may have taken place here.
And I think this is coming to a quick halt myself.
We'll see.
I'm not a big stock market guy, Wall Street guy.
Frankly, most of the people I knew over the years that worked there, not my favorite people, to be very honest.
But if you look at the old way of doing things, it's like, oh, don't rock the boat.
Oh, the markets will get skittish.
Well, Donald Trump was elected to be a disruptor.
Now, you ask yourself, do you feel good about Canada hurting our dairy farmers and Canada hurting our ranchers and those that raise chickens and other products?
Do you feel good about Germany putting a 10% tariff like the entire EU on our automobiles?
We charge 2.5%.
And then Germany puts on top of that a 20% value-added tax, which is a national sales tax.
That's 30% added to the sticker price of any American car.
Is it any surprise they sell nearly 10 German cars in America to every one car sold in Germany?
Very few American cars.
And if you don't think there's protectionism, why do you think 94% of cars in Japan are sold there are Japanese cars?
And the same with most countries.
Anyway, here to analyze this and where we are with all this is Steve Moore.
Great to have you back.
I do believe, and we learned over the weekend from Scott Vesant and Lutnick and others that over 50 countries now are begging to negotiate free and fair trade deals with America.
That was the anticipated response I had.
Is it going to take a little bit of time?
Yeah, it'll take a little bit of time.
But in the end, Americans are going to demand the respect that I think we frankly deserve.
And in the end, their desire to be in our markets will win the day.
Am I wrong?
No, you're not wrong, Sean.
And by the way, you know me.
I'm an old-fashioned free trader.
I believe in the benefits of when two countries voluntarily trade with each other, it's a good thing for both parties.
And I've talked to Donald Trump about this, and he says, look, I understand the virtues of trade, but what he's shown me that with the numbers, and I wasn't even aware of this, I think you just used the term ripped off.
I don't know if I'd use that term, but certainly it is not a level playing field.
I mean, some of these countries have tariffs that are three to four times higher than ours are.
And I got to tell you, Sean, I've been doing a lot of broadcasts on BBC and European radio and TV.
And these hosts come on and they derate Donald Trump and they say, oh, my gosh, he's starting a trade war.
And I say to these people, wait a minute, what are you talking about?
Your terrorists in Britain or Germany or France or Japan or whatever country it is.
Your tariffs are way higher than ours.
Donald Trump didn't start this trade war.
You did.
And what do they say when you say that?
Oh, they run for the they won't respond to it.
I mean, it is so funny.
Oh, no, Donald Trump is the tyrant here.
And then I said, look, you want to stop this?
And look, I've lost a lot of money in the last week.
I think most people listen to the show, you know, you look at your 401k plans, they're down.
And so I don't like to see a falling stock market because we all benefit when this American market is up.
But at the end of the day, what has to happen, because there is the path to victory for Donald Trump, for the United States, for American workers, and for the world.
And that is what has to happen very soon.
Is I think you mentioned how many 50 countries have come to Trump already?
Was it 50?
Yeah, over 50 at this point.
Over 50.
Well, but you know who we haven't heard yet from?
Germany, France, Spain, Italy, the UK.
Those presidents and prime ministers have to call up Donald Trump and say, look, we're going to lower our tariffs in the name of fairness.
If that happens, everybody's going to be better off.
And when it happens, and I believe it will happen because you know Donald Trump knows the deal better than anybody in the world.
When that happens, the market is going to spring back to life and we're going to have more jobs and more prosperity than ever before.
I do think I'm really a big fan of Bill Ackman.
And at one point today, the market had a dramatic swing like in minutes.
That's right.
Because he was suggesting there might be a 90-day pause.
I don't believe there should be a 90-day pause because that's going to give these countries, it's not going to be real to them at that point.
Now that it's real, I think we're in a position to negotiate.
And I think this is all one big negotiation.
On the other hand, I do think he pointed out one thing that maybe there might be an area for slight adjustment is when the president made his announcement and the White House made their calculations, they did include other things before besides tariffs.
And just to make it simpler and easier, I would focus exclusively on tariffs.
And that would include, for example, the one example I keep using is Germany, 10% tariff.
We only have a 2.5% tariff on their products, but they also have a value-added tax.
That's a national sales tax.
So that is the equivalent of a 30% sticker price increase on an American automobile being sold in Germany, and they only have 2.5%.
So it's got to include that as well.
And if they are willing to remove those two obstacles to American goods in their products, then they can have free and fair trade.
If they want 30% on automobiles, then they'll get 30% on automobiles.
Keep it simple.
Well, that's right.
And as we've been saying, there is no level playing field right now.
It's not a fair process.
The other thing that I'd like to see Trump do is we've really discovered in the last week or so that China is not a friend of the United States.
They're an enemy.
They're an adversary.
When they said, well, we're going to Trump increase our tariffs by 35%, I thought that was outrageous.
I think we should probably just decouple our economy entirely at this point with China.
And I find it really interesting, Sean, that these countries that are supposedly allies of the United States, and I'm talking about the Europeans, and I'm talking about Britain and these other countries.
I'm not talking about Canada.
I'm talking about India.
Canada in particular has been brutal with their tariffs against the U.S. They've done nothing to secure the northern border.
They don't pay their fair share with NATO.
And they pretty much rely on the United States.
If God forbid somebody attacks them, their go-to is going to be our country to defend them and protect them.
That's right.
And the point I was also going to make is that if these countries are our allies, now they're saying, oh, maybe we'll just trade with China instead of the United States.
What kind of ally is that?
Let China pay for their national defense.
Exactly.
Because I don't think that's going to happen.
Let China stand with them in their battle and their fear against Vladimir Putin.
Good luck with that ideology because that's not going to end well.
Well, this is a president, whether you agree with, and look, I have some problems with the tariff policy, but I think in the end of the day, Trump will win.
I would never bet against this guy.
But don't forget, I think what investors are forgetting, regardless of how you feel about everything else on this guy's agenda, tax cuts, deregulation, pro-American energy policy, better borders, all of these things, getting rid of the Department of Education, the doge, hundreds of billions of dollars of savings.
These are enormously bullish for the U.S. economy.
I really think right now, and I'm not a stock picker, but I'll tell you this, Sean, what Mrs. Moore and I did today, we bought stocks.
We love it at these low prices because we think they're a real bargain.
Quick break more with Steve Moore on the other side as we continue the battle over tariffs and the misunderstanding so many people have about what reciprocal tariffs are, much more straight ahead.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare and, frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
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All right, we continue now with economist Steve Moore's with us.
You did point out in your column after an initial shock during Donald Trump's first term when the issue of tariffs came up and a short-term disruption in the market.
He left office four years later.
And if I'm not mistaken, I think you've said in your column that stocks were up about 60% from where they were.
Not a bad rate of return.
He better believe it.
And the NASDAQ was up over 100% or more than doubled in four years.
I mean, we had a lousy stock market under Biden where they adjusted for inflation.
There were hardly any returns.
I mean, this is the most pro-American business president that we've ever had.
Well, I mean, it's pretty simple, but I'm going to tell you, let me go back to the initial point that I made.
And by the way, in spite of what people think in the state-run legacy media mob, the president's approval rating increased four points since he announced his new tariff policy.
But the fact that 88% of the stock market is owned by the wealthiest 10% of Americans.
Now, that doesn't mean that firemen, policemen, teachers' unions, people that I don't want to see lose a penny in the stock market.
But when you put money in the stock market, there's an aspect of it that I believe is comparable to gambling.
You're betting that the market's going to go up.
So there's always risk associated with it.
But I don't want to see anybody lose any money.
You work too hard for your money.
You know, there's a reason why I have the only thing I never give out financial advice, but there's a reason why a while back I told my audience what I was doing, and that was I was taking any remaining residual monies that I could take out without any tax implications and putting it in one or two year treasuries at a 5% return.
Now, I'm lowering the possibility of having the big, big, you know, Steve Moore return that you're probably going to get as a result of whatever moves you and your wife made today, right?
But it's not my area of expertise.
I'd rather take my 5%, have wealth preservation, and I'm the tortoise in the hair kind of guy.
I'm the tortoise here.
I'd rather have wealth preservation than the highs and lows of an unpredictable stock market that at times I believe is rigged.
Well, all I would say to that is that when you put money into the stock market and you're buying American companies, you're betting on America.
And that's, you know, the last 100 years, that's been a really, really good bet.
And so my- But if you buy property in America, aren't you still betting on America, too?
Well, that's absolutely true.
All I'm going to tell you, though, is that if you're talking about, you know, Albert Einstein said the most powerful force in the universe is compound interest.
And, you know, you put, especially young people, if you're under the age of 35 or 40, you know, and you're investing for your retirement, you want that money in the stock market.
The market goes up and down, but over the course of time, it goes up by about 8% per year, and that's a good return.
And I think we're going to continue to get that, if not higher, now that we have this pro-business, pro-investor, pro-America president.
What did you make of the wild fluctuations and swings that we watch throughout the day today?
I think everybody wants to see these countries make a deal with Donald Trump.
It is in everyone's interest.
And I'm sitting here watching to see.
You know, it's interesting.
You know, you mentioned 15 or so countries that have called in to Trump and said, let's make a deal here.
We're going to play fairly.
I don't think some of the biggest companies, China certainly hasn't.
I don't think Britain has.
I don't think Germany has.
I don't care if France has.
Where are they?
All they do is bitch about our tariffs when their tariffs are so much higher than ours are.
Such a good point.
We appreciate you, Steve Moore.
Thank you so much for being with us.
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I will tell you that there are state's attorney generals that are doing phenomenal work in terms of helping Donald Trump and the administration do Mission Impossible, which is to find all the Biden-Harris unvetted illegals that were allowed into this country.
And that includes known terrorists, and that includes murderers, rapists, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members.
And of course, it's a very heavy lift because we don't know where everybody is.
And there has been an enormous effort, amount of time, energy, resources, you know, put into this issue, which is critical to keep America safe.
It just is.
As Christy known, by the way, forcing the FEMA director to take a polygraph amid this hunt for leakers, people that are risking ICE agents' lives by tipping them off ahead of time.
Doge's Doge, their border expert, revealed a terrifying number of illegals on Medicare, and it's just, I'm sorry, Medicaid, and it's just ramping up.
The U.S. has revoked all South Sudan visas, barring future issuance until deportees are accepted.
According to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, you have a Honduran illegal immigrant indicted on the theft of 40 firearms in Tennessee, an illegal immigrant spike in Nike shoe heists as cartels are robbing certain areas around the world.
That's how dangerous these cartels are.
The Trump administration has suspended a lawyer in the case of the Maryland man mistakenly deported for failing to zealously advocate.
And Pam Bondi has put faith in ICE as a key source in decision to deport these MS-13 gang members.
Then we have the Trende Aragua gang members that Jamie Raskin, as we discussed last week, would like to have brought back to the country.
We have in the state of Florida James Uthmeyer, the new Attorney General, has done a phenomenal job helping to support President Trump in this effort and this agenda.
The South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson, he announced Friday that his office will prosecute Rosalie Fernandez Cruz, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, charged with hit and run that led to the death of a 21-year-old University of South Carolina student, Nathaniel Baker.
The tragic situation.
I mean, your heart's got to go out to these family members.
By the way, this has been a very common way that people die because of illegal immigrants without licenses, intoxicated, on drugs, you know, killing people, and you barely, it's like a blip on the radar.
And of course, the state-run legacy media mob will never talk about it.
Anyway, here for an update on this is the Attorney General Alan Wilson, who's been doing a great job in South Carolina, sir.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Yeah, thank you for having me back on, Sean.
It's great to be with you.
I mean, obviously, I can't comment specifically on the facts of this case because it's ongoing, but I will say this, our hearts go out to the Baker family, the friends and family of Nate Baker, who attended the University of South Carolina.
And what I can say about this case is really about the defendant in the case.
He came here in 2016 as an unaccompanied minor.
He was released into the interior of the United States.
He was given an order of removal in 2018, but flew under the radar and was not detected until obviously this incident occurred.
He was charged by the City of Columbia Police Department with hit and run resulting in death and several other traffic offenses he was charged with to include failure to render aid, failure to yield the right of way, and driving without a license.
The reason we took this case, Sean, is because of our office's broader investigations, ongoing investigations into other immigration-related matters here in South Carolina that we are not able to talk about publicly.
But what I can tell you is this.
It has been a night and day response from dealing with the federal agencies here in South Carolina like ICE and Homeland Security since President Trump came back into office.
The level of collaboration and coordination is unparalleled from any other time that I have been Attorney General in the last 14 years, and it's going to be incredibly helpful to local law enforcement who want to support President Trump's agenda in removing violent illegal aliens and other people who should not be here.
So this is a good day for America, and I'm looking forward to working with the Trump administration.
I think it's great that you're doing it.
And I think we really need people like yourself.
And I don't know if you know James Uthmeyer.
He's the Attorney General of Florida.
And he's done the same thing.
And other states' attorneys generals are doing the same thing.
I think there's now, what, 25 or 6 of you that have joined forces to support the president in this effort to keep towns and cities and states safe?
No, absolutely.
And again, in every state, if you talk to each independent, each state attorney general, especially the Republicans, they'll tell you that the ability to work with ICE and HSI is so much better than it used to be.
You know, Sean, you covered this.
You know, back during the Obama administration and the Biden administrations, they would sue states like Arizona and Texas for passing immigration laws.
They tried to prevent South Carolina from enforcing its own immigration laws.
They're going out of their way to make it harder for us to basically protect our citizenry.
And now with the Trump administration in place, we have the tools in place, the resources, and the support that we desperately need from our federal partners to go after MS-13, Trende Aragua.
I was at the southern border last August.
They told us at that time that Trende Aragua had not yet made it to South Carolina.
But as of this winter, they're now here in South Carolina, and that is because of the policies of the Biden administration.
They're here.
We've got local law enforcement that I've been in communication with.
You know, Sean, the 287G program is a program that allows local law enforcement to be deputized to carry out ICE functions.
When Biden was president, no law enforcement could sign up for it.
It was too cumbersome, and they didn't have the support of the federal government.
I've talked to literally or nearly every single law enforcement official in this state that's in a leadership role, and they are lining up to sign up to support the 287G program, which will allow them to support federal enforcement measures under ICE.
This would never have happened under Joe Biden.
Of course not.
I mean, just the opposite happened.
As far as I'm concerned, they were aiding and abetting in the law breaking the entire time.
And I blame them for, frankly, I think they have blood on their hands for every American that was murdered and raped and a victim of violent crime.
You're 100% right.
And again, the policies of the Biden administration incentivize not only illegal immigration, but it incentivized the covert operations by MS-13, Trende Aragua, Chinese nationals, and other terrorist proxy organizations who came in under cover of night.
And under the deluge, the tens of millions of illegals that came in here, some are harmless.
They're here illegally, but they're not here to do anything horrible to American people.
But it's all the bad guys that are coming in here who want to undermine this country and want to cause us harm.
That is what has AGs like me very concerned.
Yeah, it definitely does.
Well, keep us up to speed and in the loop.
We really appreciate you.
A.G. Wilson, South Carolina, you're doing a great job, and we really appreciate you being with us.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, Sean.
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Let's say hi to Tom.
He's in the great state of Rhode Island.
Tom, how are you?
Glad you joined us.
I lived five years in that great state.
My favorite clam chowder in the world is the Black Pearl.
I'm sure you probably have been there.
Yes, I have, and you told me that before, and I could not forget it.
I try to get my wife, trying to bring my wife there one of these days, but we'll get there.
We'll get there.
Sean, I'm going to tell you why Donald Trump won the last election.
And the reason they won the last election, all the Democrats should be paying attention to what I'm saying is because God never sleeps.
He never sleeps.
He never.
No, he doesn't sleep.
It's kind of hard for the human mind to wrap around, you know, who sent me.
Tell them I am sent me.
And that kind of in that statement, you know, always was, always has been, always will be.
And, you know, for mankind to wrap its mind around the idea of a being that superior may be a little bit difficult until you really just open your eyes a little bit.
The thing that separates men from animals is this ability to know and have an awareness and a consciousness that we're here.
But yet, I don't think we were designed to understand all the mysteries of the universe or fully the mystery of God, which is where the issue of faith comes in.
I won't turn this into a religious talk, but it is pretty amazing.
The majesty of universes within universes, within universes, and the idea that that could have randomly happened is absurd to me.
Well, I'm not overly religious, but my wife and I go to church every Sunday.
I'm thankful for everything I have.
And God never sleeps.
And people like Pelosi, people like Schumer, people like Adam Schiff, people like Eric Slalwell, God never sleeps.
Yeah, never does.
And, you know, I do believe that God does have his hand on the events of mankind.
And, you know, then the question is, why do bad things happen?
I had a call recently.
Why do bad things happen to good people?
That's not God being good.
And I'm like, you're trying to judge God and understand the mind of God.
The whole story of human existence is a battle between good and evil and free will that we have.
And we make choices.
And I think ultimately, you know, if you make the right choice and you make the right commitments, that I do believe that there is something far greater than anything we know or can experience here on this earth.
Another thing I want to ask you is: can you give me the word of the day?
Because I'm going to be jumping on a plane to go to Europe and I'm not going to.
Yeah, I mentioned it.
The word of the day today is Hannity.
Over the weekend, it was Sean.
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It's a great honor to be able to do it.
And it's the greatest car I've ever driven.
It is unbelievable the technology, self-driving.
I mean, that's incredible technology.
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Missouri, Jeremy, next Sean Hannity show.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing today?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Well, I got a few comments.
I know a lot of people have been kind of worried about the whole tariff thing.
I think it's really great.
I think Trump bringing the businesses back to the country, the manufacturing businesses, I think it's fantastic.
We need good, more good-paying jobs for full-time and benefits to bring the upper class back where it belongs, get some of these people off Social Security and Medicaid, you know, put them back to work.
I think it's a wonderful thing.
And then on top of that, people are complaining about some of these jobs being union, like the auto workers.
I myself am a union worker, and I can tell you the benefits are amazing.
You know, I made this point earlier today, and Scott Bessett made the point.
88% of the stock market is owned by the wealthiest 10% of Americans.
Okay, now that doesn't mean that people, working men and women, don't have money in the stock market connected to it in some way.
It's never been my big indicator.
And I've said it during Democratic administrations, Republican administrations.
You know, what you have is a shock to the system.
And the prime minister of Great Britain actually nailed it.
Globalism's over under Donald Trump.
And the idea that we are going to be ripped off and allow institutionalized, you know, stupidity to reign forever just because that's the way it's been for decades and not take a stand against countries taking advantage of us.
Well, now we're going to help out ranchers and we're going to help out automators and we're going to help out farmers and other manufacturing in this country and create high-paying career jobs and bring in-house the production of things that we cannot be dependent on from pharmaceuticals to semiconductors.
It just is long term, it's a smart play.
The stock market will rebound.
I promise you.
Everybody needs to just take a deep breath and calm down.
The people that I know that are freaking out the most are the people that live and die by the stock market, my friends on Wall Street.
I've never been a fan of the stock market.
I've said it many, many times.
And I've been warning people for a long time that a correction is overdue.
And, you know, Linda, how long ago did I tell people, if I was you, if you can, put it in 5% Treasury is a pretty darn good return and it protects your money.
You're not going to lose anything.
Anyway, I appreciate the call.
I've said it a lot, right?
And I don't give out financial advice.
I say what I'm doing.
I tell people what I do.
With that said, I know it's a lot of pain for a lot of people in the short term, but let's see how this all plays out.
I want to see where the economy is a year from now and a year and a half from now before the 26 elections, because if it's where I think it's going to be and the price of oil is down dramatically and the price of eggs is down dramatically, and we had a great jobs report last week.
And if you look at, you know, hopefully interest rates coming down, I think people are going to have a far better view of the economy than those on panicking on television every second of every day or saying, I'm not, I'll put it this way, I'm not worried about it at all.
I really am not.
I think long term, it's a great play and a smart move, and America has got to correct itself.
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